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Speaker 3: star rating and comment. I was looking at I've been

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Speaker 3: on my social media tip lately. I was looking at

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Speaker 3: and I hate, for the record, I hate Twitter or

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Speaker 3: whatever they call it now right because I feel like

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's a racist platform now, you know,

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Speaker 3: Elon Muscone's and I think it's just turned into a

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Speaker 3: whole nother platform just for that just that old, that

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Speaker 3: devisive race baiting shit, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never been active. Well I never had a

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Speaker 4: Twitter for real, that's always been bro. I never you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So I'm not even versed in

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Speaker 4: Twitter at all. That just wasn't my thing period.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, if it was out there, Man, that's my homeboy,

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Speaker 3: It's Jay Man. That's Jay in the house man, one

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Speaker 3: of the Almighty Twins. Man. I always say Detroit, but

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Speaker 3: they quick to correct me and say, no, we're from

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Speaker 3: inster Brorom answer.

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Speaker 1: We got our own, we got our own name. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: You can't tell Detroit without the idol, but we got

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Speaker 4: our own thing on.

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Speaker 3: The sure man. You know, it's just like one of

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Speaker 3: them things. Man, I'm so sick of hearing people in

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Speaker 3: power talk about victim culture. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I want to make some clear man, before people go

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Speaker 3: out there and twist my words. Man, I make a

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Speaker 3: pretty good income. Dog, I'm not rached, but I feed

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Speaker 3: my family, so I ain't ask nobody for a hand out.

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Speaker 3: This ain't personal insecurity. It's just about truth. When black

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Speaker 3: people talk about inequality, man, that ain't victim culture. Man,

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Speaker 3: that's just that, that's the facts. Right.

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Speaker 1: For two and forty years, I disagree.

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Speaker 3: I just gain on it. For two hundred and forty years,

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Speaker 3: black folks, man were legally enslaved in this country. For

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Speaker 3: another one hundred years after that, we had the whole

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Speaker 3: Jim Crow thing. Right, they red lined and black families

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Speaker 3: from getting homes man all up into the late sixties. Right,

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Speaker 3: home ownership is the number one driver generation of wealth

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Speaker 3: in American property right today, Man, the average white household

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Speaker 3: man hold roughly sixty eight times more wealth than the

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Speaker 3: media and black household They ain't my opinion, man, That's

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Speaker 3: just that in facts, right, a white family is for

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Speaker 3: more likely to receive inhertaces. You know, they got they

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Speaker 3: stuff together. Right. White households are more than likely to

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Speaker 3: own homes. White Americans, now this statistically, this ain't noring.

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Speaker 3: I'm still talking are less likely to be incarcerated for

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Speaker 3: the same offenses and white job applicants. But white sound

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Speaker 3: of names received callbacks more than identical resumes, right with

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Speaker 3: black sounding names, you know, like Tyrone, Shaquisha and all

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Speaker 3: of that stuff, right, And that's been proven. They don't

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Speaker 3: actually have stud is to prove that, which is why

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Speaker 3: my mama named me Norman Steele. It's a name nobody

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Speaker 3: could tell where I am. Right. So when people start

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Speaker 3: panicking about DEI like a quality, just some kind of attack, right,

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Speaker 3: what they really reacting to is the level the playing

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Speaker 3: field being level. Right now, when you start you know,

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Speaker 3: when you start talking about structural advantagees man, for generations, right,

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Speaker 3: that's almost like oppression, you feel.

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Speaker 4: Me, No, I don't think I'm gonna let you talk, man, hold.

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Speaker 3: On before they try to spind what I'm saying. Man,

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Speaker 3: I do not hate white people. Dog, my brother, I

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Speaker 3: got a brother this half white. Right when I came

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Speaker 3: to California sixteen, when I was sixteen seventeen, Man, it

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Speaker 3: was two groups of people to help help me out

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Speaker 3: Shaws coach Willshaw was my football coach at Long Beach

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Speaker 3: City College. And it was a white woman, Miss Marlen

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Speaker 3: to Connell. That was my boy Kevin's mama, My boy

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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell's mom. They moved out there. Man, I love

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Speaker 3: This is just about me being honest. Right. You can

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Speaker 3: acknowledge historical advantage, man, without hating somebody. You can talk

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Speaker 3: about structural inequality without playing victim, and you can demand

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Speaker 3: numbers don't lie if we could call something victim culture,

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Speaker 3: let's admit that, pretend the centuries of legal advantage didn't

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Speaker 3: shape the day's outcomes and this, and you know that's

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Speaker 3: just being intellectually lazy and dishonest. Right. Equality ain't revenged, man,

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Speaker 3: it's just correcting what's wrong. Right. And I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 3: you something to make people uncomfortable. I think, man, it

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Speaker 3: ain't coming from black people talking. I think, man, it's

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Speaker 3: to be equal in the first place. Well, I know

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Speaker 3: you've been waiting to just tear into this man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because I uh, I share.

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Speaker 4: I once shared the viewpoint that you share until I

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Speaker 4: start actually researching the history of what is called America

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Speaker 4: and where we're at.

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Speaker 1: So, first of all, have you ever read the United

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Speaker 1: States Constitution?

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Speaker 3: Yes? I have, I have read Wow.

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Speaker 4: Okay, the United States Constitution. It doesn't refer to anything

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Speaker 4: as black or white. It just refers to man.

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Speaker 4: So people who never read the Constitution actually don't know

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Speaker 4: the rules to the gang that they plan. And if

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Speaker 4: you don't know the rules to the game that you plan,

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Speaker 4: you always go lose.

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Speaker 1: And when we say.

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Speaker 4: Equal equal to what, what actually is the definition of

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Speaker 4: equality that people are looking for? So one plus one

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Speaker 4: equals too no matter where you are in the world.

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Speaker 4: But when people say equality, what do you want to

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Speaker 3: Do the.

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Speaker 4: American black male that identifies hisself as an African American.

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Speaker 4: But you're not unless one of your parents was born

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Speaker 4: in Africa, and then you are a first generation American,

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Speaker 4: which will make you African American. So the black man

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Speaker 4: in America does one thing consistently while begging for equality,

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Speaker 4: they deny that they're American first.

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Speaker 3: That's just what, okay, because you're chasing the slippery slop

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Speaker 3: right now. And I do agree with you with that, right.

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Speaker 3: I do agree with you whole hearty to a certain extent,

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Speaker 3: right because I feel like this right, I feel like

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Speaker 3: a lot of stuff is device now. I feel like

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Speaker 3: a lot of stuff And I hate race baiton right

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Speaker 3: because I think race baitan is just destroying the country

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Speaker 3: right now. Everything is about this fake rage. Like you know,

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Speaker 3: you would see a post right that says white man

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Speaker 3: attacks black women. Right. So they show this sister on

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Speaker 3: just kind of just letting him go at it whatever.

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Speaker 3: He looking at his phone or whatever. And then you

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Speaker 3: tell her like he sayd her name. He says, no,

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Speaker 3: you're wrong, Shay, You're like you're wrong. She slaps that

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Speaker 3: MUSHes her. Now he didn't. This is the big white dude.

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Speaker 3: He could have really went in on her. He didn't

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Speaker 3: go in on her. He defended hisself. She put her

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Speaker 3: this whole thing about coaching, and I feel like this

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Speaker 3: of brothers out there go and say, well, I'm not American.

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Speaker 3: They don't give a damn about us. Man. First of all,

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Speaker 3: America is a land. It's a massive land. America is

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Speaker 3: not a color, it's not an individual entity. It's not

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Speaker 3: a life, living form. It's a piece of land, right born. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and this is the piece of land that I live in.

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Speaker 3: And I'm happy to be here because let me tell

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Speaker 3: you something before I'm gonna let you get laying on

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Speaker 3: your point, right, but before we go a lot of

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Speaker 3: these people that talk all this message, they went somewhere

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Speaker 4: Exactly see see the pushit sort of problem as a

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Speaker 4: the black American denies that they're American before anything. They're

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Speaker 4: always looking to be something else. Then you're begging for equality.

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Speaker 4: You have to remember all of this by black, and

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Speaker 4: all of this support black business. Before you begged for segregation,

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Speaker 4: I mean for de segregation. That wasn't even an issue

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Speaker 4: because see I'm from Inkster, Michigan, and Inkster Michigan is

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Speaker 4: a black city. Inster Michigan was created by Robert Inkster

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Speaker 4: and created by Henry Ford and founded by Robert Inkster

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Speaker 4: who also founded Inster in New York. And the Inster

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Speaker 4: Michigan was strictly founded so the black Ford, the black

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Speaker 4: worker who worked for Henry Ford would not live in

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Speaker 4: So when you went to Inkstern Michigan, it was a

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Speaker 4: black city. So that means that the tire shop was black,

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Speaker 4: the bakery was black. The schools in Elkster were named

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Speaker 4: after black people.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: And then when somebody convinced you to live their dream

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Speaker 4: that you wanted to be decent, I call it force segregation.

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Speaker 4: That didn't do nothing but give our communities and our

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Speaker 4: I got a black business, what does that even mean?

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Speaker 1: Support black business. What does that even mean.

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Speaker 4: Nobody had to say back in the day, support black business,

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Speaker 1: We didn't have to say that white doctors treat black.

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Speaker 4: Women the worst when they're pregnant, because when the black

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Speaker 4: because the black doctor.

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Speaker 1: Lived up the street. It would come to her.

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Speaker 4: So as Black Americans, because that's what you are. You're

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Speaker 4: an American and you're black. You're not an African American

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Speaker 4: unless you're from Africa. And then you were born in America.

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Speaker 4: These things were indoctrinated in you. And now they're trying

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Speaker 4: to get you to unlearned, and they're trying to get

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Speaker 4: you to go a different direction.

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Speaker 1: So for me personally, I used to be super pro

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Speaker 1: pro black doctors. I come from a a I had.

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Speaker 4: I had a great uncle that was a real black panther,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, shooting at the police riving banks.

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Speaker 4: He actually left the country and and went and did

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Speaker 4: his thing in Israel, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So I come from a line of these things.

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Speaker 4: I know where my family is from in Africa, I'm

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Speaker 4: I'm six, I'm fifth generations, five generations removed from Ethiopia,

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Speaker 4: not on.

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Speaker 1: No slave ship.

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Speaker 4: My fifth grandfather, my fifth five times back grandfather came

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Speaker 4: over on his own. You know what I'm saying, So

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Speaker 4: same here with me, right, Yeah, I don't. I don't

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Speaker 4: have a We were slaves and we tried to make

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Speaker 4: it and it's been so crucial story that everybody think

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Speaker 4: they got is if you think that there wasn't black

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Speaker 4: people in what we call America before somebody brung over

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Speaker 4: on the slave ship, which if you do the math,

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Speaker 4: and if you do, if you I don't believe that

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Speaker 4: that's what happened. Now that I'm an adult, I don't

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Speaker 4: believe that these massive ships carry all of these people

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Speaker 4: over the way they said that they did, because nobody

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Speaker 4: So like it's more really of a class issue than

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Speaker 4: I think diversity, don't. I don't think that we need diversity.

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Speaker 3: Well, see this is what the thing is, though, is

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Speaker 4: And this is why you can't say our people, because

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Speaker 4: I think the problem that America faces is with a

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Speaker 4: And if you want to go deeper, the slave trade

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Speaker 3: The biggest purveyor of it was the Jewish community.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, it's not. I'm just saying, but I'm not

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Speaker 4: So slavery in the Koran works like this, we capture

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Speaker 4: Men have sex with those women, they create kids, and

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Speaker 4: let off the hook because everybody played a part.

433
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: And I think what happened.

434
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 4: With the slavery story is they just act like big

435
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 4: bad white boy came to do this. But then at

436
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 4: the same time they try to say how the African

437
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 4: man is the strongest and the black man.

438
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: Is this where history shows that if you believe any

439
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 1: of that, that.

440
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 4: How did that African man allow himself to be taken

441
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 4: Just a second.

442
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 3: It's cool, They ain't gonna pick that up. Yea, all

443
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 3: that's gonna be out, bro, So just continue on.

444
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: Oh okay, you can cut that out, all right.

445
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 4: So we're here, all right, So nobody needs to be

446
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 4: let off the hook, and that's the problem that we're

447
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 4: having in America. That okay, So when you was growing up,

448
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 4: they were telling you how the man was your enemy,

449
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 4: you know, like on the Jeffersons and a Good Times

450
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 4: because you you you a generation older than me or

451
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 4: a tad bit older than me, you know what I'm saying.

452
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 4: So when they telling me about the man, that wasn't

453
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 4: our struggle that we were. They didn't prepare us for

454
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 4: the correct struggle. Because my generation struggle, because I'm an

455
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 4: eighties baby raised in the nineties, was the crack epidemic.

456
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 4: But I was so focused on hating the man, you

457
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, that we didn't realize what was

458
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 4: going on with the crack at the epidemic or whatever

459
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 4: like that. So everybody wants to point the blame, and

460
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 4: black people played victim all the time, whether you like

461
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 4: it or not. This is not my opinion. Like, all right,

462
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 4: if in these communities, if they don't want you in

463
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 4: these communities, why do you try to press to go

464
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 4: to these communities. Why are you spending your money with

465
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 4: these people? Why are you doing all of these things

466
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 4: to turn around and say they mistreating me. I don't

467
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 4: allow nobody to mistreat me black, white, yellow, brown, whatever.

468
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 4: Like as a man, I'm not letting nobody mistreat me.

469
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: And I've experienced racism as a kid all the way up.

470
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 4: See, it's cool when you think racism not being called

471
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 4: a nigger. You ever been called a porch monkey or

472
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 4: a movie heard that? That's what I'm saying. You ever

473
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 4: called a white girl classmate's house being a kid, and

474
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 4: her brother call you a nigger because you just want

475
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 4: to talk to his sister. So some of these, some

476
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 4: black people didn't grow up around white people, right, And

477
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 4: the only interactions they had with white people were in

478
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 4: authority figures, police teachers. They didn't grow up sitting next

479
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 4: to white kids that were in the same economic class

480
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 4: as them and realized that a project Megga ain't nothing

481
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 4: but a trailer trash honkey they something.

482
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 3: I come from the area, man. I was born in seventy, right,

483
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 3: So I was raised in the eighties, right, you know,

484
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 3: pretty much raising the eighties, right, And I come from

485
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 3: busting the buzzing when they start busting people out the community. Right.

486
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 3: So it went in twofold from me from elementary school, right,

487
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 3: elementary school to junior high we're busted to the West Side,

488
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 3: which is predominantly white, right, and right across from I

489
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 3: remember with the Charles or Elementary, right across from the

490
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 3: school was a place to say a white power on

491
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 3: a billing. And now you got to remember, I came

492
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 3: from a community that was all black, Right. I had

493
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: never really been around the white folks. We all came

494
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 3: the community that was all black. The East Side was

495
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 3: all black, right, few Puerto Ricans here and there, but

496
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: we was all black for the most part. Right when

497
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 3: I went over there, I had no clue what the

498
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 3: white power building was about. Right, That's when I started

499
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 3: getting the educational racism because somebody called me a nigger.

500
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: And the first time they called me a nigger that

501
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 3: felt somebody didn't like it. I punched him in his mouth, right,

502
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 3: that was one of them things. But this same kid

503
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: I wound up punching in the mouth that called me

504
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: a nigger. Now he got to get buss when we

505
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 3: go to seventh grade, he has to get bus back

506
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 3: to the east side. Right. Guess what wound up happening

507
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 3: by the time we graduate high school, your friends, it

508
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: wound up being one of my dogs because he was

509
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 3: just learning. He had responses that he had learned in

510
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 3: his community growing up from his parents and other people

511
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: around him, right, because he was around a bunch of

512
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 3: practice people. But then once he got to the East Side.

513
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: Now it's the difference because he's playing on the football

514
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: team with me, and the game that Friday, that we

515
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 3: played that Friday, he may not want to go home

516
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 3: that Thursday because he wanted to hang out with his

517
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: teammates and be you know things.

518
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: So he's not over my house.

519
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 3: And now instead of looking at me as somebody's differently looking, say, okay,

520
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: you know what, we pretty much the same because guess what,

521
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 3: I don't have that much food at my house. On

522
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 3: the same thing. We're going through the same stuff. Right.

523
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 3: He sees that my peak parents go to work. He

524
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 3: sees that shit, they.

525
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: Go go to work.

526
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 3: But we both living in kind of the same conditions.

527
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: Neither one of us got ship. Right. But this is

528
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 3: what I would say, man, And this is who I'm

529
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 3: talking about. I am talking about, man, those white folks

530
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: who think nothing is ever happening, nothing has ever been wrong. Oh,

531
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: you shouldn't have a problem with that.

532
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 4: Hold on, but you got to remember, nothing did happen

533
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 4: to them or nothing was wrong because society depending on

534
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 4: where they're economically.

535
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: And they're just not there. So it's all right. Put

536
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: it this way. It's easy to be a blood and

537
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: I don't never see no crips.

538
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 4: Right, So if I'm a white person who never interact

539
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: with black people, who never see Mexicans, who never gotta

540
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 4: go do nothing with these people, why where would I

541
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 4: believe something was wrong? Yet I'm not gonna say I'm

542
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 4: not gonna be able to acknowledge something that I'm not

543
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 4: experiencing this not when I say not experiences, I'm not

544
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 4: even getting a chance to really be racist because I

545
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,239
Speaker 4: don't see black people or I don't see who I'm

546
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 4: supposed to be racist against.

547
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: So what really did happen?

548
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 4: It's hard to believe that some of this stuff happened

549
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 4: when you you don't even know nobody who affected. And

550
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 4: first of all, to me, black people, we are so

551
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 4: far removed from slavery, it's not even let it go. Okay,

552
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 4: what about now? What about today? Ain't preparations? So so

553
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 4: get that out your head. So I'm gonna disagree with you.

554
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 3: Are we're not supposed to ever let the motherfuckers forget

555
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: about that, because listen, twin, you know what happens when

556
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 3: you love mother just forget about ship to run the

557
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: risk of it happening again. Right, I'm not gonna let

558
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 3: them forget about it because I'm gonna tell you this.

559
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: The Jewish community, which they slogan never forget.

560
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 4: But even with the Jewish, okay, even with that, never

561
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 4: forget what because the same way that they tell us

562
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 4: about the Holocaust, America did that to the Asian after

563
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 4: Pearl Harbor.

564
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: Well, that's what I'm saying, and they shouldn't allaw motherfuckers

565
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: to forget about it.

566
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, forget one thing.

567
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 4: Okay, Look, I don't care nothing that happened to them people,

568
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 4: because them people don't care nothing that happened to our You.

569
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: Don't care about slavery. You don't care about what happened

570
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: with slavery.

571
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, this is what I'm saying.

572
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 4: Like about they say never forget, that's what they telling

573
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 4: each other.

574
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: You can't tell me to never forget because I don't care.

575
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: So I don't not not. I'm not remembering or forgetting.

576
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 3: I don't.

577
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: You got to convince me that that happened more than

578
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: never Forget.

579
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 4: I'm not taking your word because you say that this

580
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 4: will happen, because if you actually listen to those okay

581
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 4: six were talking about those people, if you actually know

582
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 4: why that happened, then you will actually understand more why

583
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: that happened.

584
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: See Germany lost World War One.

585
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 4: Germany lost World War one because when the German Men

586
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 4: went to war, the Jewish community took over their government

587
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 4: and sold them out. See when Germany lost World War One,

588
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 4: they tried to destroy Germany to the point of it

589
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 4: no return and that wit and it wouldn't come back.

590
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 4: What Adolph Hitler was talking in them speeches, people should

591
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 4: listen to in English if you're English, or listen Hitler.

592
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm not riding with anybody.

593
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: The platform, but you.

594
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: Won't if you listen to what I'm saying.

595
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 4: How do you trust the same person that wronged you,

596
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 4: knowingly to tell you that somebody else is wronging somebody else?

597
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 4: So how do you trust the American white men, who

598
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 4: you know what they did to you as a as

599
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 4: a as a black in America to tell you what

600
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 4: Hitler did to the jew How do you trust that?

601
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: Because because whoever wins the war writes the history.

602
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 4: So it's no way that I could take the white

603
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 4: man's word for what was going on and not looking

604
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 4: to it myself. Because the same white man to tell

605
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 4: you how bad Malcolm was and how great Martin was,

606
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 4: and then when you compare it to you, like, wait

607
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 4: a minute, y'all, Yet Malcolm Mexico tape saying that he

608
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 4: won't sell out nobody, and he ain't never did nothing wrong,

609
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 4: going against nothing, he spoke off, and then you got

610
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 4: Martin on tape and he cheeked on his wife and

611
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah blah. So I don't listen to

612
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: the narrative without researching. Bro, what I'm saying is is

613
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: no way that you could look for your oppressor to

614
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: educate you or make you feel a certain way about

615
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 4: somebody else. I'm not Jewish, right, so whatever happened to

616
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 4: the Jews is not my responsibility as a human being.

617
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: If those things happened, those are acts of war.

618
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: Because this is what I really feel like, and I'm

619
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: being sincere when I say this, Right, I feel like

620
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: the horror the Holocaust was horrific, right, anytime you have

621
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: a massive loss of human life, right, it's horrific. Right.

622
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: I feel like slavery really set us back in more

623
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: ways than one. Right. I feel like that we have

624
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 3: to recover from a lot of stuff. Right. We think

625
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: pretty much we in a situation, man, a where white

626
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: America has had a four hundred year head start.

627
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: That's not true.

628
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: It was true. You don't believe that's something wrong.

629
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 4: Because because people are under the impression, bro, that there

630
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 4: was never black slave owners, that there wasn't rich black

631
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: people that was in America that had slaves. See, people

632
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 4: are under there. You don't think so you think this

633
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 4: is a real question. You don't think it was rich

634
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 4: black people in America who has slaves?

635
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 3: Well? Or do you know, I think it was motherfuckers

636
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 3: like Steven under the jangle. I think it's that. I

637
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: ain't gonna let that off. I ain't gonna let that right,

638
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: So hold on.

639
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 4: Still, do you think that black people were not in

640
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 4: America and not thriving during these times?

641
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: So no, no, man, that that's that.

642
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: Do you see the proof? Show me some proof of that, bro,

643
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: because I'm very well read and I study stuff. Show

644
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 3: me where it was every time where black people in

645
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: this country had MAXs and had slaves and they had

646
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 3: white friends. Yes, my slaves. I'm going to sell you one.

647
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: To get it to that off camera.

648
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 4: Well you know what I'm saying, because it's not like

649
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 4: I can pull it up right now because I'm using

650
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: my phone. But Bro, you out your mind if you

651
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 4: don't think that it was black slave owners, Bro, because again,

652
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 4: it's a class issue and slaves were looked at as property.

653
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: So that's like saying all the black people who came

654
00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: here didn't.

655
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 4: Get rich here after slavery or whatever, or that's like saying, yeah,

656
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 4: it was black.

657
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 3: And walker that made money. You had people that made

658
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 3: money and stuff, but it wasn't nobody to own, no

659
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 3: damn slaves. Mhm.

660
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I'm eating a date because I'm getting there.

661
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: That they didn't show you that the thing showed you

662
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: because you talking that laugh You've been talking that bullshit.

663
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 3: That's still.

664
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: Just look it up, man, Just research you.

665
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 4: Bro, there were thriving blacks here during slavery, before slavery,

666
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 4: and after slavery, and they weren't sellouts, and and and

667
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 4: and and the biggest misconception is that the house nigga

668
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 4: was a certain type of nigga, and that the field

669
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 4: nigga was a certain type of nigga.

670
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: It's complaining ass niggas and everywhere that you work.

671
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 4: So what makes you think it wasn't no can play

672
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 4: an ass house niggas? And what makes you think it

673
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 4: wasn't no can playing an ass field niggas? And what

674
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 4: makes black people think that you had it easier because

675
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 4: you were in a house. Because if you were in

676
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 4: the house, that meant that the slave owner was quicker

677
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 4: to rape you.

678
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: That's what that means for me.

679
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 3: So you're telling me that, huh, So you were telling

680
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 3: me pretty much that huh, everybody was just it wasn't

681
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 3: no motherfuckers like Stephen and le Jangle, was it?

682
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 4: But but but it's but it's those those bitch ass

683
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 4: niggas is in your neighborhood right now though those big

684
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 4: like like like bitch ass niggas like that exist.

685
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: So yes, it was niggas like that, so so so

686
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: on what you're saying.

687
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 4: So you telling me it was niggas like Steven and Django,

688
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 4: But it wasn't no rich niggas.

689
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 3: I don't think it was no rich people in the thing.

690
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: You know what, now they we talked, I don't think

691
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 3: they may. You know what would have happened if it

692
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: was they killed they came and took everything from them

693
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 3: and killed them, took their slaves and everything else.

694
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: And that may have happened in certain places.

695
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 4: But people are crazy to believe that we only come

696
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 4: from struggle. See that's what the slavery story instills in

697
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 4: Black Americans, that we only come from struggle. No, bro

698
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 4: it was black land owners too, It was the Americans.

699
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 4: It was natives because I don't call them natives Americans

700
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 4: because somebody named this country America. And you know what

701
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 4: I'm saying, It was natives to the land that were

702
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 4: actually black skinned that had these things as well. Bro Like,

703
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 4: I'm not buying into the concept that black people only

704
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 4: come from struggle. I'm not buying into the it's a

705
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 4: class issue more than it's a race issue.

706
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 3: Well, the thing was, if that wasn't the case, Broke,

707
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: we would be a lot further a here along.

708
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Because I hear people say stuff

709
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: like that further along?

710
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 4: How are you saying that there would be more black

711
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 4: billionaires because we got black.

712
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: It would be it would be more forget billionaires, it

713
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: would be more black millionaires. There would be more black

714
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 3: businesses that are generations over that are over one hundred

715
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 3: years old.

716
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: We have lead. We have league. We have league full

717
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: of young black men that are millionaires.

718
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: We have lead.

719
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 4: This is do you want to know the real issue

720
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 4: that black people never address. We work in industries, we

721
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 4: haven't created one.

722
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 3: That's because we're behind. We don't know.

723
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 4: No, no, that's not because we people want to be

724
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 4: the talent. Black people want to be the talent. They

725
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 4: want to be seen. They want you to know I

726
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 4: did this. That's what we're dealing with. We're not We

727
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 4: haven't created one industry. We we we we supply talent

728
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 4: to all industries, but we haven't created one. See, the

729
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 4: generational wealth is in creating industry that people will always

730
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 4: work for.

731
00:37:58,960 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: So guess what.

732
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 4: Everybody wanted to be a rapper at one point. You

733
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. The music industry is controlled by

734
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 4: the Jews. They created the industry and black people are

735
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 4: the talent. That's black people's truth, right, and that's the truth. Okay, Look,

736
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 4: I'm about to give you another one. Hold on, I'm

737
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 4: about to give you another one. All the talent that

738
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 4: we have in sports, all the money that was accumulated

739
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 4: over the eighty years of the NBA.

740
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: That's sixty years of the NFL. None of these black

741
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: people ever came together to.

742
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 4: Create a league to give you an alternative to the

743
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 4: NFL or the NBA with Well, I'm.

744
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 3: Gonna tell you this. I'm gonna tell you what the

745
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: problem with that is. Right in this country, man, a

746
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 3: lot of people put a monopoly on things, like it's

747
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 3: very hard for another league to exist. You know, to remember,

748
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 3: my son played professional football player. Right unless unless somebody

749
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: actually goes out to click up with the NBA or NFL,

750
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 3: their power structure is not go allow no other league

751
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: to prosper.

752
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 4: No, no, it's not going to allow it to be

753
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 4: as popular now.

754
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: But you have to stick with it. See that's what

755
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

756
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 4: It's easy for a football player to go, you're a

757
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 4: contract than it is for him to invest his money

758
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 4: and think long term lead because that could have happened.

759
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: So the NFL wasn't always the ship.

760
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 4: The AFL was the ship, and the NFL came through

761
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 4: and built themself up and swooped.

762
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: In and bought that. You feel what I'm saying, But

763
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: again it all boils down.

764
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 4: To We don't create industries. We just work in the industry.

765
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 4: So a football player is just a forty million dollars

766
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 4: play bro. You still go to work every day, You

767
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 4: still have a you how do how do a football

768
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 4: player refer to the person that pays their paycheck.

769
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 3: Oh, it's the coach.

770
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: No, the person who pays their paycheck, the boss.

771
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 3: H they're boss?

772
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 1: No, no, no, my owner.

773
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well it's a team, that's the firm, because.

774
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 4: That's not don't know, no, be specific, because that makes us

775
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 4: that that makes a big difference.

776
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: You do not go to work you personally, if you

777
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: work for a company, you don't say that the owner

778
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: of I heart is my owner.

779
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 4: When black plays Spoor, they refer to the person who

780
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 4: owns the team and pays their pay check, not as

781
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 4: my boss, as my owner. So you still have a

782
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 4: slave mentality if you are calling this white man who

783
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 4: pays you peanuts of what they make a slave wage.

784
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: They pay you a slave wage even though it's in

785
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: the millions.

786
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 3: Let me give us the Chris claimer real quick. Children

787
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: out there that are aspiring athletes, do not listen to

788
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 3: this niggro.

789
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: My owner, my owner.

790
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 4: I don't listen to athletes after I hear, don't refer

791
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 4: to somebody as my owner.

792
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: You know what they're doing, because that's what he is.

793
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 3: He's the owner of the team.

794
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, he's the owner of the team.

795
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,959
Speaker 1: He's not my owner. Henry Ford owns four.

796
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 4: He Henry Ford's family owns the Lions. They own Ford

797
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 4: Murder Company, they own Henry Ford Medical System. So Henry

798
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 4: the Four on a weekly basis payout a gazillion dollars. Basically, right,

799
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 4: the only person who refers to the Ford as my

800
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 4: owner is the sports athlete, the Ford car auto worker

801
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 4: who has a longer lifespan with for for working before

802
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 4: than an athlete had than a Lions player. You never

803
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 4: heard that. The nurse who works at Henry Ford Medical System,

804
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 4: who has a longer employment span with the Fords. They

805
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 4: don't refer to the Henry Ford Medical System as my owner.

806
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 1: Henry Ford's name is still on it. So the athlete,

807
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: though the forty million dollars played that everybody is chasing

808
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: to be can't wait to get there so they could

809
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: cause that white man or that Jewish man their owner.

810
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 3: Bro.

811
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: That's a slave mentality.

812
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 4: That's the problem because just because he writes your check,

813
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 4: he's not your owner.

814
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: He owns exactly. Call them motherfucker slaves. A lot of

815
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 3: them is getting compensated very well for what they're doing.

816
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 4: No, no, they're not. They make a small percentage. Hey,

817
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 4: look bro, if I could give you one hundred million

818
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 4: dollar contract, if I could give several people one hundred

819
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 4: million dollar contract, then guess what we know that that's

820
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 4: not even ten percent of what they make.

821
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 3: This is one thing I will tell you about that business, right.

822
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: The structure is that one a you are never going

823
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 3: to make what the owner makes. You are never going

824
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: to become a partner. Nobody is effyring the history of

825
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 3: the NFL. Ever came in and said during the negotiations, look,

826
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: I love you so much as a player, and you

827
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 3: put a bunch so many people in the seats, I'm

828
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: going to give you five percent of my business. They

829
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: just don't do that, right.

830
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 4: Dog, Stop that we're making the same point. We're making

831
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 4: the same point. So so you just said they're being

832
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 4: compensated very well. No, they're coming away with CTE. They

833
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 4: don't have health insurance when they're done. They actually don't

834
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 4: even make what they say that those contracts are about

835
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 4: because there was already centate base.

836
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: Those are numbers that real the next generation.

837
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: In well some of them are a Senate based, you know,

838
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 3: some of them.

839
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 4: But this is what I'm saying. Yeah, okay, put I

840
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 4: put it this way. The first guaranteed contract for a

841
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 4: quarterback just happened with with with Dog a couple of

842
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 4: years ago when he got the two hundred something million

843
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 4: dollars guaranteed.

844
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: No, and he's still getting paid today. Who paid for

845
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Brown? What was naw washsonout right?

846
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: Right?

847
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: So that was so in the history of the NFL, that.

848
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 4: Was the first guaranteed contract for a quarterback.

849
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: And he you see that, You know what the thing is,

850
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 3: given people contracts like this is a bad business. It

851
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: was a bad business idea because you see how that

852
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 3: turned out.

853
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 4: Right, No, no, no, of course, But what what the

854
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 4: what we're talking about is that when when kids it's

855
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 4: scared of these numbers, right, they can't wait to sign

856
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 4: up to be a forty million dollars slave because it

857
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 4: sounds big, right, But that's just so for example, since

858
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 4: we weren't since no one was educating their kids on

859
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 4: taxes and all of that.

860
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: When you hear a million dollars, you think you have

861
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: a million dollars?

862
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 4: What depending on where you live at when you touch

863
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 4: a million dollars, you don't even see a million dollars

864
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 4: of Like, so, California, how mony do you got to

865
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 4: make in California to have a million dollars?

866
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 3: I'm telling you almost have to make one point eight

867
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 3: million dollars in order to have a million dollars.

868
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: Damn here exactly.

869
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: You know at least one point six right, because the

870
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 3: thing is, bro That's why I'm leaving California. The thing is,

871
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: if I made a million dollars today, I'll be able

872
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: to celebrate being a millionaire until I go to the

873
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: bank to take some money out to make a small purchase.

874
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: But we're getting off top of the taxes.

875
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: And taxes and all of the other stuff, right, and

876
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: you know, not even going to that man. But it's

877
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: it's a corrupt system, right, It's just a corrupt system.

878
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: Because you think about it, not to go all the

879
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 3: way off in the taxes, but think about this, Right,

880
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 3: you go to work every week, right, you pay taxes

881
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: out of there check. Right, if your wife goes to work,

882
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 3: she pays taxes in I check at the end of

883
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 3: the year. You write your taxes, right, they may tell

884
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: you if you especially me, and you owe some more money, right,

885
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: so you pay, you pay them some more money. You

886
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: get no benefit for that money, right, I don't really

887
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: get a benefit for that. Yeah, I live in this country,

888
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 3: and I understand that we already paid. But I already

889
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 3: take this note, I already paid property taxes, right, so therese,

890
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 3: property taxes should take care of what's going on in

891
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: the city. Right, even the fact that I could buy

892
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: a fucking house and still got to pay somebody taxes

893
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: on the house for in for every end, they could

894
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 3: take the house from you if I pay for it.

895
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 3: If I don't do what if I don't pay my tax.

896
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: Make your taxes.

897
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 4: So see, So the system it's corrupt, for sure, but

898
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 4: it also determines on how you use the system for

899
00:45:59,200 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 4: your benefit.

900
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm.

901
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 4: Saying, And that's what determines how you pay taxes, what

902
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 4: you're paying taxes and all of that, the benefit of

903
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 4: how you use the system. It's it's a difference and

904
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 4: operate in as Norman still and it's a difference as

905
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 4: operate in as such and such.

906
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: Whatever you feel me. I can't say too much because

907
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: we already mentioned Jews. We don't mention it. It's a

908
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: lot that could get it, you know what I'm saying.

909
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 3: So it's a lot. There's a lot that can get

910
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: as really smoked off. That's what I'm thinking. I'm like, man,

911
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: I missed wrong. I won't have my deal Monday.

912
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 4: But you know, listen, listen, this is why you will

913
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 4: have your deal still Monday, right, because they gonna be

914
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,479
Speaker 4: like they know and then they know people not gonna

915
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 4: take heat. See see that because we're not talking nothing messy,

916
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 4: We're not talking nothing gospeply. We just having a conversation

917
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 4: amongst peers and friends about how we see things because

918
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 4: we see things the same and we see things different.

919
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 4: Like okay, even with the uh with the ice situation, right,

920
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 4: you might see that.

921
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: Different from me, right, you know what I'm saying.

922
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 4: And when people hear ice, they automatically think that ice

923
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 4: is coming for just Mexicans.

924
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: Well, if you do your research, the more it's.

925
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 4: More illegal Europeans in America than there is Mexicans.

926
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: Right, Oh yeah, but fropaganda.

927
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 4: Because you know I'm from I'm from Easter, which ain't

928
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 4: from from southwest Detroit, which is like each La type

929
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 4: of shit.

930
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

931
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 4: I just was working at a place with some Mexicans

932
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 4: and my fuckers didn't speak a.

933
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: Word of English, you know what I'm saying.

934
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 4: So my whole thing with America is this, if you

935
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 4: want to come to America, then come to America the

936
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 4: right way.

937
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: I don't care what you are. If you come to

938
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: America illegally.

939
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 4: And you get caught being here illegally, they should deport

940
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 4: you on without.

941
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 3: A doubt one. I'll tell you this, America is not

942
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 3: the only country that secures their borders.

943
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: If I'm over the country, there's not a country in

944
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: the world, right.

945
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 3: And I remember them telling me, hey, we have to

946
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,479
Speaker 3: extend your visa for you to be out here. Right,

947
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 3: You'll probably be out here another three weeks to a month, Right,

948
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 3: we need to go extend your visa. They're not going

949
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 3: to permit you to just come out and just do

950
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 3: what the hell you want to Crash up cars, beat

951
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 3: people up, steal, rob and terrorize and just go back

952
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 3: to wherehere the fuck you from. They're not having that.

953
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 4: Listen, man, if you love where you're from so much

954
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 4: and go to fuck there. See, the problem is when

955
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 4: others come to America because who everybody's what? So, first

956
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 4: of all, the American Nigga is hated more than any

957
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 4: man on the face of the because everybody got opinion

958
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 4: on the American Nigga. Africans hate you, American brother, Mexicans

959
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 4: hate you way more than white people.

960
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: Arabs hate you. All of these people hate you.

961
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: Know what. One thing I'm careful to do is to generalize. Right.

962
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 4: No, no, Bro, I am five minutes from dearborn, Michigan. Bro.

963
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 4: Dearborn Michigan has the highest Arab population besides the Middle East.

964
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 3: Bro.

965
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 4: And I'm a Muslim, Bro, And I can speak Arabic

966
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 4: to a certain extent, so I can, But more importantly,

967
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 4: I can understand what y'all saying. When y'all think people

968
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 4: can't understand you, feel what I'm saying. See, everybody wants

969
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 4: to be our culture. They love our entertainment, but they

970
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 4: hate us, you know what I'm saying. So when I

971
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 4: say that fact, so the problem they not are friends,

972
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 4: So we shouldn't be their friends.

973
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: Because blacks paved the way and.

974
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 4: Did and went through the ringer for all the stuff

975
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 4: that's everybody else.

976
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: So black people think we their friends know they laughing

977
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: at us. You all out here.

978
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 4: Protesting ICE, talk about how unfair it is, not realizing

979
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 4: that this ICE agent is just.

980
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: Doing his job. You think he want to go do

981
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: this every day and got the deal with Well.

982
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 3: Let you know where though. The one thing we have

983
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 3: to admit, man, is that there are some the fieriest

984
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 3: ass people on this planet. There are some people who

985
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 3: went and got that job. But I just to be

986
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 3: able to woo people's ass.

987
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 4: But that's not color based. See that's what I'm saying,

988
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 4: that's not color based. That that's more that would be

989
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 4: more patriotism than color based.

990
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 3: On color base. If you want to go out and

991
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 3: beat a bunch of Mexican people, look.

992
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: So scot that's where you're wrong.

993
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 4: I'm not going out to beat a bunch of Mexican people.

994
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 4: My job is to make sure you're not here illegally.

995
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 4: And I that I dig that that hold on because

996
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 4: that's how people thinking when they hear ICE.

997
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: My job is to make sure you're not here illegally.

998
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 4: So the media is pushing ICE in Mexican, but in Minnesota,

999
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 4: Ice not looking for Mexicans.

1000
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: You know what ICE is doing. They're looking for.

1001
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 4: Somolians and Nigerians because that's their illegal immigrant problem.

1002
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: There.

1003
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 4: You can feel what I'm saying. So my job is

1004
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 4: to not go beat anybody. If I'm coming to get

1005
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 4: you and you hear illegally and you resist, then you.

1006
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: Have to deal with what happens when you resist, because guess.

1007
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 4: What, you know you here illegally and if you hear,

1008
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 4: why are you here illegally?

1009
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: I know people with green cars and stuff.

1010
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 3: Bro, Well, the thing is a lot of people, man,

1011
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you this, A lot of people do

1012
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 3: come in this country to reap the benefits.

1013
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 4: The benefits that the black man, the American black man.

1014
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 3: These people have their benefits, like Asian people, Mexican people,

1015
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 3: all these have their benefits because.

1016
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: Of what the black man, black man.

1017
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: The civil rights moving right, but.

1018
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 4: But there really is no real such thing as a

1019
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:08,479
Speaker 4: civil right.

1020
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Who is civil what's a civil rights?

1021
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 4: You don't just get rights because you're here. What are

1022
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 4: civil rights? So I'm fighting for segregation, for de segregation.

1023
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 4: I don't gotta fight for that. I don't have to

1024
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 4: go sit Why am I dressing up to go sit

1025
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 4: at a counter to act like I want to eat

1026
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 4: this food or whatever.

1027
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: Why am I in these diners? Why listen?

1028
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 4: My mother was one of the first people to go

1029
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 4: to the white schools and Taylor when they started that

1030
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 4: you feel what I'm saying, But she said when she

1031
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 4: went to that school, why would I want to go

1032
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 4: to this school because somebody else said that this is

1033
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 4: a better education? Like what are we talking about? Like

1034
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 4: why do I want to go? And why do I

1035
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 4: want to live in du we talking? You said you

1036
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 4: mentioned Redliner earlier, Why I want to live in this neighborhood?

1037
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: Because you know what, listen, let me make your point.

1038
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 4: Because black people were convinced that the white man's ice

1039
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 4: is colder, that the white man's water is better. Because

1040
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 4: we fight everything, we want back all of this by

1041
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 4: black keep the money in our community blah blah blah.

1042
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: Hey man, we had all of that, and y'all went in.

1043
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 4: Thoughts to not have that, Like why why are we

1044
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 4: trying to force our way into these white schools because

1045
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 4: you think the white education system is better?

1046
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: Why are you looking to the white.

1047
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 4: Man to educate you and think that you're going to

1048
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 4: get a fair shape.

1049
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 3: Well, in a lot of cases, man, schools in the

1050
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,439
Speaker 3: white community are better equipped to learn.

1051
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: That means what this better means.

1052
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: They have computers, they have up they learning material, they

1053
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 3: have better to say. So people do want It's all

1054
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: about the pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness. Right.

1055
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 4: That is a demographic thing because taxes and stuff like

1056
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 4: that pay for school.

1057
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: Correct if it's not a.

1058
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 4: Charter school, So that means that's more demographic and economic

1059
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 4: and class.

1060
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: More than it is race.

1061
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 4: Right, So you being bussed to a white school, don't

1062
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 4: negate the fact that you have to go back to

1063
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 4: your black community, your core black community.

1064
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 1: Right.

1065
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 4: But what you being bused to a white school is

1066
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 4: doing to that school? I mean that's not helping or

1067
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 4: hurting baskets. Actually, it's actually helping that school because now

1068
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 4: they get more money because they have a head count

1069
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 4: every so often during the year, and more students equal

1070
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 4: more money.

1071
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 3: Well, Amo tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something

1072
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 3: that's crazy about schools. Period. Man. A school is a business. Right.

1073
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 3: You have to remember the reason they have a truancy

1074
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 3: department is if a kid misses so many days of school,

1075
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 3: they lose fun for their kid, right exactly. So that's

1076
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 3: why they want to make sure you're in school. It's

1077
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: not they're not. They're chasing you down to come to

1078
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 3: school because so we want John to get an education.

1079
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 3: They can give a fuck. They want that money, That's

1080
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

1081
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 4: So when so this, this is what I'm saying, how

1082
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 4: blacks wanting to be equal to whites whatever that means,

1083
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 4: actually destroyed the black community because when they took Norman

1084
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 4: Steele and bust him to the east Side I mean

1085
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 4: to the west Side to go to school.

1086
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: Guess what that did to that east Side school.

1087
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 3: Nor it didn't rich that school. That school got more money.

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00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 4: Right, so they took money out of your school. You

1089
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 4: feel what I'm saying. So that that's what I'm saying,

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00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 4: like all of these things that the people before us wanted,

1091
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 4: or like the reconstruction was just designed to keep blacks

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00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 4: down because they knew that they could convince y'all that

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00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 4: y'all wanted to come over here and then say y'all

1094
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 4: can't come over here. So now since y'all telling us

1095
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 4: we can come over here, we go fight to get there. Bro,

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00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 4: what are we doing at diners with white people. We noticed,

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00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 4: fool and what.

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00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: We want to eat? We swept trying to prove a point.

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00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: That's what they was trying to do.

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Speaker 4: I'm being serious. Who was going in there for real

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00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 4: to try to eat? Who is dressing?

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Speaker 3: You?

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00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: Dressing enough to go.

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00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 4: Get slapped on and get water spread on you because

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00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 4: somebody else's dream?

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00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: You know what that dream was about, right? That they

1107
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: pushing for Martin?

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00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 3: Right?

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00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: You know what the dream was?

1110
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 3: Right? What was the dream?

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00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: He wanted to sleep with white women?

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00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 3: Bro? Man? You crazy man?

1113
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: No, I'm not do your research. Bro do your research, bro.

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00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: And you probably didn't notice either. You probably didn't know

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00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 1: this either.

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00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 4: Did you know that the Eye have a dream speech

1117
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 4: he gave in Detroit first, then he gave it in Washington, DC,

1118
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 4: so they knew what he was about to do.

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00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: So he practiced and then went on a national level.

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Speaker 4: Did you know that? Did you know that Martin Luther

1121
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 4: King actually recorded the album on motime?

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00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: You know that I knew he was.

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00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 3: I knew he got us from Cleveland. Huh, I knew

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00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 3: he got us from Cleveland. You always trying to find

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00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 3: a way to insert Detroit into the history of something.

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00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 4: No, No, he recorded a motile album. This is not

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00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 4: a joke. But I got a Mason brother. He's no

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00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 4: longer with us, but he was in Detroit when he

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00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 4: did the I have a dream speech first, and then

1130
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 4: he was in the army and when he and he

1131
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 4: was protecting the perimeter and stuff, when Martin did the

1132
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 4: same exact speech with tweets and stuff in DC. So

1133
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 4: this was by design, Bro. Listen to what he's saying

1134
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 4: in that speech.

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00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: His dream black.

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00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,479
Speaker 3: So Martin had a dream just just because he wanted

1137
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 3: to go out there and hit white woman.

1138
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 4: For sure, brow for sure. Bro, I'm not no, no, no, no, no,

1139
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 4: don't call me crazy. Just take what I'm saying and

1140
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 4: then listen.

1141
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: Listen to the speech again.

1142
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 4: Listen to him talk about how he got his feelings

1143
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 4: hurt when he was a kid because he couldn't play

1144
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 4: with the white girls and the white kid it and that, see,

1145
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 4: that's not my dream. So I'm not like so they

1146
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 4: sold us somebody. So they sold us somebody else's dream.

1147
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 4: And then before Martin died, before Martin was assassinated, he

1148
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 4: said he think that he may have integrated his people

1149
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 4: into a burning house. That means I do them y'all

1150
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 4: because this is going to live on for generations and

1151
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 4: generations and generations.

1152
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 3: So let me ask you a question, bro, before you

1153
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 3: keep going, right, So we about that to get up

1154
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 3: out of here in a minute. Right. So you have

1155
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 3: some very strong opinions, right, But I can appreciate your opinions,

1156
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 3: and we can agree to disagree on some things, right,

1157
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 3: But I would very much like that. No, what piece

1158
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 3: of lyrics? Sure I can look at man to confirm

1159
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 3: some of this stuff.

1160
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: What would you like to be confirmed?

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00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 3: Just I think you were joking when you said that

1162
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 3: Marlin for King.

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00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: Be That's not a joke, Bro, that's not Listen to

1164
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: what I'm telling you. Listen to the speech.

1165
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 4: Then take the things that you know from these FBI

1166
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 4: files and stuff about.

1167
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King Junior. Bro.

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00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 4: See black people go get upset and emotional because they

1169
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 4: feel like that that's disrespectful. But disrespect the truth ain't

1170
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 4: disrespect Like I don't agree with Martin Luther King's dream,

1171
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 4: So why would I fight for that dream.

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00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: I don't agree with what forced segregation.

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00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 4: Did to the black community that these black people act

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00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 4: like they love.

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00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that because because freedom.

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00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 3: In your mind, you think we will stay in your mind,

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00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 3: you think we should have stayed segregated for sure.

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00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 4: Then black people wouldn't be hundreds of years behind. It

1179
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 4: wouldn't be a bye black campaign. Matter of fact, if.

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00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: I talk to you and you lead.

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00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 4: To me that you have a black business, you just

1182
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 4: lost my money because what does that mean? What does

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00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 4: that mean? I've never heard of white guys say I

1184
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 4: got a white business. And if a white guy did

1185
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 4: say that, people will call him racist. Corrector and correct.

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01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, this you know what I feel where you're going

1187
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 3: man with this? I agree with some of it, but

1188
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 3: don't agree with all of it. Bro.

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01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 4: Well yeah, yeah, this this is this is just from

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01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 4: my life experiences and with my eye experience.

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01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 3: So you don't think that. Before we go, I'm to

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01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 3: ask you this. Do you think that America should be

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01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 3: on the hook for slavery?

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01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 4: Do I think that America should? When you say on

1195
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 4: the hook, what does that mean?

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01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,919
Speaker 3: That means that that they should figure out some sort

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01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 3: of restitution reciprise?

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01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 4: No?

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01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 3: Why not?

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01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: This is why?

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01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 4: This is, this is why, this is why, because even

1202
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 4: with slavery, blacks economically have managed to spend more money

1203
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 4: annually than some small countries, which means hold on, which

1204
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 4: means you have to the freedom to do whatever you

1205
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 4: want with your money, right and if you rather invest

1206
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 4: in these name brand in these name brand things, then

1207
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 4: invest in your community.

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01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: Nobody else should take care of that.

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01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 4: So this is what reparations and all of this is

1210
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 4: saying to me, I.

1211
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: Got my own money, I'm gonna fuck my money off.

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01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 4: It's up to you, white daddy to pay for us

1213
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 4: to rebuild our communities. Because when we were selling tons

1214
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 4: of dope, hold on, hold on, Because when we were

1215
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 4: selling tons of dope, we were buying Gucci, Louis, all

1216
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 4: of this stuff, Cladillac, who hated black people and didn't

1217
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 4: want black people driving in cars. We were buying all

1218
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 4: of these things, but we weren't investing in our communities.

1219
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: We were destroying those communities.

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01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 4: And then guess what, other people watched us destroy these

1221
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 4: communities and swooped in, And now you can get a

1222
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 4: house for five thousand dollars in certain spots today. I

1223
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 4: just seen some shit that in San Diego, in the

1224
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 4: next couple of days, they supposed to be having Augins

1225
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 4: houses and them supposed to be starting a two hundred

1226
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 4: I mean at twenty five hundred dollars.

1227
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: You see that?

1228
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 3: Wow, you know what I need to do it?

1229
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 4: Man, look into that, Look into that, because I don't

1230
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 4: know it already passed.

1231
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying, no, no, Americas didn't.

1232
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 4: Be on the hook because blacks have had many opportunities

1233
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 4: to invest their money in their own communities and they

1234
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 4: didn't do that.

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01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: The look soon as the nigga gets the money, what do.

1236
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 3: You want to do if we've had some of the things?

1237
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, oh look at this. Do you

1238
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 3: remember the city of Oklahoma. What was the name of

1239
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 3: the city of Oklahoma?

1240
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: Black wall Street?

1241
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, hold on, wait, hold on, No, I'm

1242
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 2: about I'm about to really crush you niggas. Black wall

1243
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 2: Street was actually a derogatory term for Tosa, Oklahoma. That's

1244
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 2: what the white people used to say day after thinking like,

1245
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 2: that's black wall Street.

1246
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 4: Well, if you know what wall Street is, wall street

1247
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 4: is a no no no, bro, no stop it stop it.

1248
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 4: What is wahsat street? Wall streets were stops are traded.

1249
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 4: That's what wall Street is, bro. So how was this

1250
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 4: black wall Street? And it wasn't no stocks traded, bro,

1251
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 4: It's tars of Oklahoma. It's not Black Wall Street. It's green,

1252
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 4: it's idle Well Michigan. Bro, it's stuff like that black.

1253
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 3: I asked a lot of research to get it. I

1254
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 3: have a lot of research to do.

1255
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: Black Wall Street time today.

1256
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 4: When that was going on, the black people who were doctors,

1257
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 4: lawyers and all of that did not refer to their

1258
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 4: community as Black Wall Street.

1259
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 3: Bro.

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01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: He wean out of time.

1261
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 3: Bro. I know you gonna keep going. You gonna keep going,

1262
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna have you back on.

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01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 4: Man.

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01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 3: I really appreciate y'all of sitting through this. Man, let

1265
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 3: me know what y'all think about my boy as Jay's

1266
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 3: man thoughts man, because he's off the hook.

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01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: Man.

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01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 3: On that note, we out of here. I'm gonna leave

1269
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 3: before he started talking about something else to piss me off.

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01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 3: I'm gone. Well. That concludes another episode of the Gainst

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01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,880
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