1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: We are one day away from training camp twenty nineteen 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: and I cannot wait. Welcome to everybody to wed edition 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: of Texans All Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: John Harris here the voice of the Texans, Mark Vandimir 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: there Mark one day, one day, Johnny, that's less than 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: a day, less than a day to day. It's tomorrow morning. 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: It's tomorrow morning on the air, training camp lips. So 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: here's how it's gonna go. From six to eight, you 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: hear Panted, Panter Gas, Sean and Seth. Then we take 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: over from eight to ten. Then you will hear Landry 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: Lopez from ten until two of course Clint Cambo. So 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: that'll be your schedule on Sports Radio six ten through 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: the week days up until the Thursday game against the 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers up which is two weeks from tomorrow night. 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: By the way, I think that's also important to point 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: out we're two weeks away from an actual game with 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: this team. You know what, I've thought about that, but 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about it until you just said, like, 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: we'll wait a second. Holy cow. Yeah, And it's a 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: strange dynamic. Wow, you know, not being away for the 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: start of camp This is the first home launch of 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: camp in three years. And it sounds like a long 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: time when you say it like that, because it has 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: been We got used to go into the Greenbrier and 25 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: now you're back in Houston. And even though you have 26 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 1: had practices here, for sure you had the joint practices 27 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: what ten years ago or two years ago with h 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: well you had him with the Patriots up there. Maybe 29 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: there were no we went to New Orleans. We went 30 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: to New Orleans, that's right. Anyway, it's all a blur. 31 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: Last year is in nine ers. Last year was the 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: forty nine ers here. Boy they did that. Huh. They 33 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: actually showed up here for that and lived to tell 34 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: about it. Sort of. They had a bad season. Kyle 35 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: Shanahan should know about He should know about it in Detroit. 36 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean, if anything, we should be going up to Detroit. 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: They want to come down here and do some practicing 38 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: five with us. Patricia wants to make them tougher here. 39 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: This put it in context for me. Yea Art when 40 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: I I start thinking about, you know, just writing something 41 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: real quick about training camp, and I was like, look, 42 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna write so much about training camp and what 43 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: happens to training camp. I'm just hit on some of 44 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: the things I've been thinking about, and I wrote kind 45 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: of this little notes article and it says, how often 46 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: does an NFL roster turnover? Keep this to your point. Yeah, 47 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: last time we're here for training camp was twenty sixteen. Right, 48 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: of the eighty three players that will start training camp now, 49 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: eighty three because you've got, you know, three guys on 50 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: pop In, Wad, Hopkins and Carter. You got a couple 51 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: of rookies deal with some stuff. So eighty three guys 52 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: will take the field. And obviously JD I would imagine 53 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: it's not going to So you got eighty three guys 54 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: taking the field. YEA. Of those eighty three taking the field, 55 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: how many of them were here for training camp in 56 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen? How many of those eighty three we're here 57 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty sixteen training camp three years ago? I'm 58 00:02:51,919 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: gonna say thirty four? Oh man, thirteen? What teen? I mean, 59 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 1: I didn't even look. This is bad? That off thirteen 60 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: of the eighty three you will take the field tomorrow, 61 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: thirteen of the eighties or here or three years ago 62 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: in twenty six That's how you can start naming them. 63 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: I mean you think about the rookie class in twenty sixteen, 64 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: says like Nick Martin, Will Fuller, Yeah, DJ Reader, a 65 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: couple undrafted guys in that class as well. But Watson 66 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 1: wasn't here yet. Deante Foreman wasn't here yet. So here's 67 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: another one. Yeah, on that same note of the eighty 68 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: three that'll take the field. Yeah, fifty one. We're still 69 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: in college. The last time the Texans had training camp 70 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: here and it's it was just two years. It was 71 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: just two years. But that's how fast. That's how fast 72 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: NFL roster. And you think about this now, when you 73 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: bring in people from underneath like that college draft, college 74 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: free agents, some street free agents, if you will, on 75 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: restricted free agents. If you bring them in like that, 76 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: you're cutting off a whole layer on the top. Right. 77 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: Where does that layer go? Some of them end up 78 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: with other teams, most of them end up where retired done. 79 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: It's the not for long league. That's what happens. And 80 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: that's the real severity of this profession. Well, the real 81 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: severity is getting hurt, obviously, but the severity of it's 82 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: not long. You better not make plans to be around 83 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: here forever. You're gonna try to be around here forever 84 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: and forever being a sort of a facetious way of 85 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: describing a long career. But I think that it does. 86 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: It does paint the picture very well when you point 87 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: out right there that it is flipped so often. And 88 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: this is not just the Texans. Most teams are like 89 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: what you just said, Yes, they rotate very quickly. It's 90 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: it's not unusual. This might be a little unusual. Okay, 91 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: the projected starting offense for your Texans. Yeah, the player 92 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: with the most NFL seniority, gosh is Lamar Miller with 93 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: eight years more than Hopkins, because Hopkins seven. Yep, that's 94 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: that you're I mean, the Texans only have one offensive 95 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: player with ten years of service in the NFL. It's 96 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: Joe Webb. And I know someone would say, well, you know, 97 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: Joe's more special teamer, but you know, if you consider 98 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: he's the only player with ten plus years. Now, there's 99 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: only one player with ten plus years on the defensive side, 100 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: and that j j Joe. It's Jonathan Joseph. Now he's 101 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: going into his fourteenth training camp. Yeah, he is the OG. 102 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: He said today as he was walking in. We had 103 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: entrance videos guys coming in and he's like number fourteen, 104 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: And it got me thinking, So fourteen years ago, we 105 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: didn't have twitface, we didn't have we barely had Facebook, 106 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: we didn't have smartphones, we didn't have smartphones. So we 107 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,119 Speaker 1: I mean, all that we didn't have when he started 108 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: training camp, when he started his NFL career, none of 109 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: that was available. Isn't that incredible career? And all this 110 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: stuff evolves around him? It's yeah, So, I mean I 111 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: came up with, you know, some of these kind of 112 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 1: training camp nuggets, some of the things we talked about. Yeah, 113 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: some of the things in the season. And here's here's one. 114 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: Here's here's a tribute question for you. Okay, So last 115 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: year the player from an obscure university was Vincent Smith 116 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: from Limestone College. Yeah, this year, Dj Coker the offensive lineman, 117 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: rookie rookie interior offensive lineman from Rhodes College. Do you 118 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: know where that is? Don't say anything. Don't say anything. 119 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: If you all know it, hit me up on Twitter 120 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: at your Harris football Rhodes College. You know, I know 121 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: where it is because one of my players ended up 122 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: going there, playing four years in college there. No, I've 123 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: I've definitely heard of it, Ny, this is not as 124 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: obscure as limestone. No, it's not. It's not. But I 125 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: guarantee you fans of like Rhodes in Rhodes Island is 126 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: that Like. I'll tell you a quick story. When I 127 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: was a senior, I went on my my official visit 128 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: to uh Town University and I came back, of course, 129 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: and you come back from those visits, you, you know, 130 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: wearing gear. So I was wearing a sweatshirt university and 131 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: so I went to school that day and somebody's like, 132 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: where were your friends? Like, well, you know what on 133 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: my official visit, I went to Brown University. She looked 134 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: at me and she's like, where is it like West Texas. 135 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: I's like, no, Brown, No, It's definitely not out in 136 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: West Texas. Red University. No. We Later the show, I 137 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: will have my Ultimate eleven reasons you want to get 138 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: to training camp and want to see training camp, and well, 139 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: I'll be looking for a training camp. We'll also have 140 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: are in the Lab snippet where Ju and I talked 141 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: about the excitement level we feel going into a season. 142 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: What was the last time we felt as excited as 143 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: we are heading into this one. But before we get 144 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: to gut reaction. A little bit of news from the 145 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: Texans this early evening, if you will, Justin Reid will 146 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: be going on active you p NFI. So that can 147 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: mean a lot of different things. As we've talked about. 148 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: Hopefully this isn't gonna be a long drawn out thing. Justin, 149 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: but that news coming out today, Justin Reid will start 150 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: the training camp season, if you will on NFI. Yeah, 151 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: NiFi not football injury. That means anything that you suffered 152 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: that's an injury of any kind that was away from 153 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: the building, away from team supervision, has to get reported 154 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: like this could be something that's not very serious at all. 155 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: But the problem is, and here's why they have to 156 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: do it. They did it for Khale Wearing. And I'll 157 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: just hypothesize here. I don't speculate on their injuries. I 158 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: don't know, but if you have let's say it's an 159 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: ankle and you're okay though two days into practice you're fine. 160 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: You know, even though you suffered the ankle injury on 161 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: a beach in Malibu. If you reaggravate that injury, if 162 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: you do something to it to further in your injury 163 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: yourself with that injury, well that becomes an NFI result. Really, 164 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: so it's and it all goes back to the collective 165 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: bargaining and dreaming and all of that. So it's it's 166 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: really a distinction. So we don't know how serious it is. 167 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he tweeted out football is back. Justin Reid's 168 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: super fired up. So let's just hope is gonna be 169 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: okay soon enough, Okay, voice the Texans. I want to 170 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: do some gut reactions, so I don't fire through fire 171 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: some of these, Okay. Falcon's wide receiver Julio Jones said, 172 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: and I quote, I'm gonna hit three K this season, 173 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: all about the team. And by three K he meets 174 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: three thousand three games. Yeah, he's not gonna do it. 175 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: And let's think about when players set these goals, Chris Johnson, 176 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: two thousand yards comes to mind. They don't get achieved 177 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: for the most part, and to hit two thousand yards 178 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: as the receiver would be absolutely ridiculous. Forget about three thousand. 179 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 1: That means you need the ball. I mean, think about 180 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: how many yards, how many years game? Yeah, you're not 181 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: You're not getting there. Remember when Andre Johnson at the 182 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: two games stretch in two thousand and twelve where he 183 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: had a gazillion catcas for two hundred plus yards in 184 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: each of those games or something like that. It was 185 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: the most productive two game stretch in the history of 186 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: the NFL for any receiver. You'd have to do that 187 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: for sixteen, you'd have to, but you're not gonna do 188 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: one ninety. So you're gonna have some games where it's 189 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: less than one hundred, so you have to offset that 190 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: with some unbelievable Now he does have some unbelievable games. 191 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: There's no doubt he's not gonna hit three thousand. It's 192 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: nice to float it out there. And it's all about 193 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, it is all about the team. Speaking 194 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: of all about the team in Duval County, Oh gosh, 195 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: Oh I saw this and ja Jaguars Ramsey showed up 196 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: in a Brings truck. Your gut reaction, My gut reaction is, 197 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: it's all about the team, Johnny, It's all about Look, 198 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: I've had I've had I've had a tough offseason. I 199 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: get it. But now that I'm here, I'm here to 200 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: work and be here for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Oh wait, 201 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm showing up in a Brinks truck with fake money 202 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: bags in the back to send a message to management 203 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: that I need more money. But it's all about the team, 204 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: of course. And then some people are listening. Will what 205 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: it's his right to look, I get it, but it's 206 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: not contract negotiation time, it really isn't. It's he's already set. 207 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: He already said that he's not gonna contract this year. 208 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: So why are you doing this? Is this haymy rick? 209 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: Could it could be? It could be, it could pay 210 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: Tommy tom couldn't. It could very well be. So it's 211 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was funny. What I thought was really 212 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: interesting was the Jaguars themselves tweeted that they were there. 213 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: I mean, all the cameras gathered around and who's on 214 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: the megaphone for him body or something. I don't know 215 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: who that was, So all the cameras gathered around and 216 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: look as an outsider, I love it. I think it's tremendous. 217 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: It's great showmanship. But it says to me that the 218 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: Jaguars are broken on the runway. Okay, they will have 219 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: trouble getting out of port because I just don't think 220 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: they're together. Now. They have talent, They've got great talent 221 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: on defense. I get it. But I think this is 222 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a real tough go for them. And I'm 223 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: not saying they can't win six maybe seven games, but 224 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: I think that's about it. Okay, So let's go to 225 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: part b Okay Jannik and Goquay Jaguarsh star defensive end. Yeah, 226 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: apparently we'll hold out from training camp. He was offered 227 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: a four year, seventy six million dollars deal with fifty 228 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: million guaranteed, which is less than what Frank Clark and 229 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: the markets Lawrence got. He said, get bent, I'm not 230 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: coming your gut reaction. Well, how many sacks last year? 231 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: Forty double digits? He is good, Johnny and these guys 232 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: did get Frank Clark got good money. He Lawrence too, right, 233 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: So this is contract negotiation time in a way, right, Yeah? 234 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: And he I hate people here. Nine and a half 235 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: sacks last year. I just don't like holding out, But 236 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: it is camp, and if he shows up in enough 237 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: time to get ready for the regular season, good for him. 238 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: Now as a Texan, I think he should out for 239 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: a season long as he wants. I think he and 240 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck actually, even though he's on a different team, 241 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: but should show his support for a Cock way, Yes, 242 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: m let's stay with the AFC South or when I 243 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: have a feeling, will be our final one? Okay your 244 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: gut reaction to this. Titans left tackle Taylor Luan announced 245 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: on I guess it was his Instagram, his social media 246 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: page whatever, his own. He's got a he's got a 247 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: video thing he does called the Boys. He announced that 248 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: he failed a drug test and he is facing a 249 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: four game suspension. Wait, peed, drug or recreational No, it 250 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: sounds like it's peed. He in fact said what the 251 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: drug was that he got nailed with on the video. 252 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: I watched the video he got he got. He got 253 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: very emotional when he was talking about it. You can 254 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: tell that he cares about Nashville. But before you answer, 255 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: keep this in mind. The Tennessee Titans first four games 256 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: that apparently he will miss include two AFC South teams, 257 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: include the Colts and include the Jaguars, which means the 258 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: Aqua gets back. But they open at Cleveland, they get 259 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: the Colts at home, they go to Jacksonville, and then 260 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: they go to Atlanta. If I'm playing scoreboard watcher, and 261 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm not playing scoreboard Watcher, because I admit it, I 262 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: am in scoreboard watchers anonymous, and I am in scoreboard 263 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: watchers Anonymous from week one. I've got a problem, and 264 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: I admit it. That's the first step to recovery. I 265 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: as a scoreboard watcher, don't like this. Actually, I'd rather 266 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: have him sit later if he's gonna sit, like when 267 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: he plays the Texas, because I need we didn't. We 268 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: didn't beat them when he didn't play. I'm rooting for 269 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: the Titans, not so much against Cleveland, because you know 270 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: it helps the AFC set, it helps the Texans if 271 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: Cleveland wins. But I'm out on that Cleveland plank, predicting 272 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: trouble for the Browns. So as a prognosticator, I wouldn't 273 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: mind if the Titans did well in that game, but no, 274 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: if Cleveland's gonna win. But versus Cults, I want the 275 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: Titans to beat the Colts. Yes, I want to hurt 276 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: the Colts as much as possible because I think the 277 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: Titans ultimately are gonna come up short anyway. I don't 278 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: want the Cults having steams, So in that way, I 279 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: don't like this deal. As far as the Jags Titans 280 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: thing goes, it's a wash, but they gotta face the Falcons, 281 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: and they got to face the Browns. Like you said, 282 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: to the more explosive offenses. I don't know if they've 283 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: got great defenses, but Tach McKinley for the Falcons, the 284 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: Browns are gonna bring. The thing is in those games 285 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: they will face from the Browns Miles Garrett. Yeah, they 286 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: will face the Colts and the Cults are gonna throw 287 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of different guys. Maybe not a star, but 288 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: they've got a bunch of different guys they canna throw. 289 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: Can you go, Tourey Justin Houston, Ben Banagoston? Oh my gosh, 290 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: you had to remind me. The Jags may having got 291 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: way back, but you're definitely gonna see Clay's Campbell. The 292 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: Falcons will throw Tach McKinley, Vic Beasley, a couple of 293 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: athletic guys. I don't know if they're great off the edge, 294 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: but either way, that's what the Titans are gonna face 295 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: in the first four games. I mean, all of those 296 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: teams except for the Browns. The Texans play too, So 297 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: you know that you're dealing with a very tough schedule 298 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: this year, a lot of a lot of great players. 299 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you've been highlighting the individuals that you'll see 300 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: during this schedule as well as the teams. But it's 301 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: really the offense is that worry you the most. And 302 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: Julio Jones, who wants to get three thousand yards and 303 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: at one game I think yeah, actually does yeah, and 304 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: he might if Tylor Taylor Luwe doesn't play, and I 305 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: have logic to that in some way, shape or form. 306 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: Mark eight o'clock tomorrow, do not be late. I won't 307 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: be late, and we'll get some radio done for the 308 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. McClean at eight thirty from the field. 309 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: Jamie Roots will be out of kickoff camp, and I 310 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: know he's gonna say some things about the organization as well, 311 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: and the rest of it will break down position groups. 312 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun, sixty year doing this together and 313 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: I cannot wait. Mark, Thanks, Jenny. All right, coming up, 314 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: I will give you my ultimate eleven things to watch 315 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: at Training Camp next on Texans All Access. We'llcome back 316 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: to a Wednesday edition of Texans All Access, a Training 317 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: Camp Eve edition of Texas All Access. So that being 318 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: said me, your host John Harris football Ano, said sideline reporter, 319 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: I am going to take a dive in too. Well, 320 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: something that I do a lot. It's called altun eleven 321 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: and it's basically my way of just saying that I 322 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: have a list. And with training camp coming up, I decided, 323 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: can I do an altimate eleven of things I'm really 324 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: excited about for a training camp? And as well, yeah 325 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: it's my show, so yeah, let's do it. Now. I 326 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: know a lot of people are excited about various things 327 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: at training camp. I will tell you what I get 328 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: most excited about with a few of these. Some of 329 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: them are very players specific to the players that are 330 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: on the team. Now, Like I'll tell you one of 331 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: my all time, all time, all time favorite if I 332 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: made an all time altermate eleven, it would be watching 333 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: Arian Foster run at practice because the way that he 334 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: ran the zone game and being down on the field 335 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: to be able to see that he was incredible. He 336 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: was absolutely incredible, and I loved watching him run the 337 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: ball because he was He and Terrell Davis are the 338 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: two best zone game runners I've ever seen and had 339 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: the opportunity to watch that up close. Now, obviously not 340 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: watching Arian this year in training camp, so this is 341 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: related to this year's training camp or something that happens 342 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: pretty much every year if you follow me. So let's 343 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: get going with number eleven. Now, Number eleven has to 344 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: do with a player on this year's team and a 345 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: player that is going into his third year. And when 346 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: he came here in twenty seventeen, I was shocked that 347 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: he actually chose to come to the Texas. And he's 348 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: not a starter, but he very well could be. He 349 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: is an impactful player. Bill Brian has said he's potentially 350 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: one of the better players on this team when he 351 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: is healthy and hopefully going into this year he is 352 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: fully healthy. And there's Dylan Cole linebacker, special teamer. Anything 353 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: you want to do on a football field, you want 354 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: it done, Dylan Cole can do it. And I love 355 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: watching the practice. He is an energizer, bunny Tasmanian devil, 356 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: never stops, always going, going, going. He is so fun 357 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: to watch and I cannot wait to watch Dylan Cole 358 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: back healthy and see if he can't find a way 359 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: to get on the field even more with this defense 360 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: if he can be fully healthy alongside Zach Cunningham and 361 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 1: Bernardrick McKinney. Number ten, it's rookies first camp. So the 362 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: rookies that you want to see the first rounders, Titus Howard, 363 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: second rounders, Lonnie Johnson Junior, and Max Sharping. You want 364 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: to see those guys. Now we won't see Kylie Wearing 365 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: for a while. He's really excited. But it's the first camp, 366 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 1: so you get excited about seeing them, like how did 367 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: the pieces actually fit in? Now we started OTAs, but 368 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: you don't see him, what the pads on, You don't 369 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: see all of the real action going on. This is 370 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: the first opportunity to do that. And I remember the 371 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: first practice to the Shawn Watson up at the Greenbrier 372 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: and training camp, just watching like, man, the Shawn Watson's 373 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: on my team. He's on my team. This is really cool. 374 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: And then watching him develop right there in front of 375 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: our eyes. That's the really cool part about a rookies 376 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: first camp. And I get really excited about that number 377 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: nine one on ones Now. For a lot of fans, 378 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: they like watching the wide receivers and dbs, which is 379 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: fun because the balls in the air. We get excited 380 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: watching the ball. I don't need to see the ball 381 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: one time at a training camp practice and be satisfied 382 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: because I like watching the big guys. I like watching 383 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: the old line to D line. I love watching the 384 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: pass rushers. I love watching the pass rush moves they have, 385 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 1: and I love watching off It's the line try to 386 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: counter those and which offensive line it steps up in 387 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: one on ones? Which guy has shown the most progress 388 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: from last year this year, Which rookie stands out in 389 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: those pass rushing moves. I remember last year Duke dge 390 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: it for watching the one on ones, the old line 391 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: D line. I'm watching going he can't block him. He's 392 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: all kinds of pass rush moves. He was like Tasmanian 393 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: devil pulling stuff out of his are the captain caveman 394 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: pulling like tricks out of his you know, his shoulder pads. 395 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: It was like watch this one. I mean he was 396 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: doing stuff I hadn't seen before. So I love. I 397 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: couldn't even put this probably Laura on the list. This 398 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: could have been one, two or three. But the one 399 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: on one is the old line D line. Love watching them. 400 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: Number eight. It's a little bit random, but I was 401 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: not a big Michigan fan, but I loved watching Coron 402 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: Higden run the football when he was at the University 403 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: of Michigan. I just loved him. He's not a big guy, 404 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: but he stout and I watched him at the Senior 405 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: Bowl and he looked tiny in comparison to the guys 406 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: on the field, but man, he runs hard and he 407 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: was not healthy during OTA, so we didn't even get 408 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: a chance to see him then. So I hope that 409 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: we get a chance to see him at camp and 410 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: see what he's actually able to do out of Michigan. 411 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: Karan Higden the rookie number seven, somehow the man is 412 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: doing it still and playing at a high level. And 413 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: that's Jonathan Joseph. His fourteenth training camp. Fourteenth and the 414 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: one thing that I love about Joe is the fact 415 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: that he will talk to anybody on the field about 416 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: what that particular player's job is, and he knows what 417 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: it is. Offensive line, defensively, it doesn't matter, he knows. 418 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the players have talked for years about Joe 419 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: being the first guy to greet them coming off the field. Hey, 420 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: you're seeing this coverage, Hey when they do this you 421 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: wanted to. He has a football like Q that's off 422 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: the charts. But just watching him do it after all 423 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: these years has been fantastic. So I'm looking forward to 424 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: seeing j Jo out on the field again, Jonathan Joe, 425 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: So number six. I could watch kik Qt run routes 426 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: all day, all day. Every slot route you can think of, whip, pivots, crossers, 427 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: anything seems slot, slot fades, anything that he runs. I 428 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: love watching him because to be a slot receiver in 429 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: the NFL, now there's there's a science to it, but 430 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: it's more about an art. It's about changing pace, changing speeds, 431 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: and Kiki Qt does that really for a young guy 432 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: as well as anybody I've seen. And I love the 433 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: fact that he catches the ball with his hands and 434 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: he makes something happen after the catch. And we got 435 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: really excited about watching the first three or four days 436 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: of training camp of the Green Bar last year, and 437 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: then he was hamstring and then we didn't see him 438 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: again until Week four against the Colts, and the first 439 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: game back eleven catches. So we can get that production 440 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: right away that would be fantastic for this team. But 441 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: mainly just watching him run those routes, it's just, Oh, 442 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: it's it's watching an artist paint and be creative, because 443 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: that's the way he has to win with his releases. 444 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: To be creative. How do I get loose? How do 445 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: I change my pace here to throw off the defense, 446 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: and he's he's become really really good at that, and 447 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: I can't wait when they put the pads on to 448 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: see him do that. Number five is very simple for me. 449 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: Texas Training Camp Live. This is my six year doing 450 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: it with Mark, and I have a blast. I have 451 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: a blast just being there and starting our show before 452 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: anything kicks off, and then watching all the players come 453 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: on the field, and then hearing that hornblow at nine 454 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: fifteen to start practice and we're on the air. It's 455 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: just he feels like such a part of it. And 456 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: I just I love Texas Training Camp Live eight to 457 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: ten every day for two weeks in between Painted Pendergast 458 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: and Landry and Lopez. We've got that two little out 459 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: of those two hours. We'll have it eight to ten 460 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: throughout the season on Mondays, Texas Mondays, but Texas train 461 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: Camp Live. It's just awesome to sweat through a show. 462 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: I don't even care. I doesn't matter to me, it 463 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: doesn't matter whatsoever. Number four. One of my favorite things 464 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: to do in games, in practice and mainly a training 465 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: camp is watching Jordan Thomas with the ball in his 466 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: hands in space because the first thing automatically that I do. 467 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's two hundred seventy two hundred and 468 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: twenty five pounds, so when he catches the ball in 469 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: the secondary, they're in anybody in the secondary that's within 470 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: fifty pounds of this guy, and he can run and 471 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: I want to just see him run completely over secondary guys. 472 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: Now that's not always the smart thing to do, because 473 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: there's sometimes he can run away from some of them, 474 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: but I just love to see him with the ball 475 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: in space and turn up and it's like, all right, 476 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: let's roll. I was like, he's fun to watch, really 477 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: fun to watch. So Jordan Thomas with the ball in 478 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: the secondary in space at number four, number three, it's 479 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: gonna be really exciting to see will full or healthy 480 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: beyond I mean beyond any player, just seeing him healthy again. 481 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: Watching him run routes. The one thing I noticed the 482 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: last two years the Green Briers, especially twenty eighteen, was 483 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: how much separation he was getting just running routes. And 484 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't just running his nine route, which a lot 485 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: of people think that's all I can do, and if 486 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: they do, shame on you. This guy can run any 487 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: round in the route tree and he can get open. 488 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: He run a five yard hitch route and get three 489 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: yards of separation like he did against Tennessee last year. 490 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: So seeing will Fuller healthy out on the field is 491 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: gonna be a blast. Number two. I'm curious about Bradley 492 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: Roby when he's coming out of the house state. I 493 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: knew he was talented, but I knew they were inconsistencies 494 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: in his game, and I sort of followed him a 495 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: little bit at Denver and then when there were some 496 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: coaching changes in Wade Phillips left, then there were even 497 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: working inconsistencies. But you could see physical ability when he 498 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: went against Tyreek Hill. Oh my god, it was so good. 499 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: It was so so good. Can he do that consistently 500 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: if he can, But his defense is gonna be tough. 501 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: If not, oh boy, it's gonna be tough. But I 502 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: want to see speed. I want to see how he 503 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: covers in one on ones. I want to see how 504 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: he fits into the overall defensive scheme. Bradley Roby at 505 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: number two and number one. The one thing I always 506 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: love more than anything else in football. I mean, I 507 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: love the hitting, a love of the physical aspect. I 508 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: love the chess piece. I love the deep ball and 509 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: number four throws as pretty a deep ball as there is. 510 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: I could watch the Shawn Watson throw effortless deep balls 511 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: all day long. Now I want him to hit. I 512 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: want him hit big, and they started to last year 513 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: before Will got hurt. But even after Will deep on 514 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: DeAndre against the Jets, he hit some big throws, the 515 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: big the big throw to Vincent against the Eagles. I 516 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: love watching him throw the deep ball that is number one. 517 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: So there you go, the all thre to eleven things 518 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to in training camp twenty nineteen. Now, 519 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: as I said, there's excitement about the offense. Why well 520 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: the end of Lab Crew Jory myself discussed that next 521 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: right here in Texans All Access. We'll final segment of 522 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: this Wednesday's edition of Texans All Access. I am John Harris, 523 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: Football Analyst, silent reporter for your Houston Texans if you 524 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: missed it earlier. A little bit of fortunate news and 525 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: hopefully it won't be long before we see Justin Reid 526 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,239 Speaker 1: back on the field. But he has been added to 527 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: the active pup NFI list, So I hope everything's gonna 528 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: be okay with Justin and he will be back in 529 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: due time, but could be a procedural and hopefully that's 530 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: what it is. But just a just a heads up 531 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: if you didn't hear that news now. Mark and I 532 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: talked about earlier in the show. All Right, training camp 533 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: starts tomorrow and optimism abounds. It always does. But but 534 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: the lab crew, me buddy Drew Doherty discussed our optimism 535 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: for this twenty nineteen offense. I have never been this 536 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: optimistic about a Texans offense. I'm very optimistic on the 537 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: whole about this team. But I've never been this optimistic 538 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: about a Texans offense. And that's because of many, many components. 539 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, his continued growth, the addition of Carl Smith 540 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: as quarterbacks coach, and the ideas he can can help 541 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: Deshaun with the weapons and their health. Now, DeAndre Hopkins 542 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: he's on the pup right now, but he'll be out 543 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: there week one. Will Fuller looks like knock On Wood. 544 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 1: He's gonna be out there week one. KKQT had a 545 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: great spring, Vincent Smith has a solid spring, he's a 546 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: fourth receiver, and then the tight ends. Yeah, I'm very, 547 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: very very excited about this offense. And it got me 548 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: thinking when have I been this excited about a Texans 549 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: team heading into training camp? And it's got to be 550 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: two thy twelve was the last time I was this excited, 551 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: and really twenty thirteen as well, even though twenty thirteen 552 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: turned into a flaming pile of you know what, we 553 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: were pretty pumped because Manu, they just had that they 554 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: just kind of ran out of gas at the end, 555 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: and they had their struggles against the Patriots, but hey, 556 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: they got ed Reid and I'm excited. When were you 557 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: this excited and this optimistic about a Texans team heading 558 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: into camp? What's a great question, And I you know, 559 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: when I'll handle the offensive part. First. I remember, I 560 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: believe it was oh nine. It was my third training camp, 561 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: and I remember watching the offense at oh nine, especially 562 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: the passing game, and I remember just watching. I remember 563 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: Shop one day. I was like, you're talking about this 564 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: heading into oh nine? Like this heading into the yeah, yeah, 565 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: like oh nine training camp, like as an nine training 566 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: camp is going on. I remember watching and I'm like, 567 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: Shop isn't missing, Like he's moving this offense. I mean, 568 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: one rep after the next, it's clockwork. So after oh nine, offensively, 569 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: I felt like man two thousand and ten, because I 570 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: remember in the spring of two thousand and ten seeing 571 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: Arian Foster for the first time, like as a not 572 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: not the first time, but I remember seeing it twenty 573 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: three for the first time, and I remember there was 574 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: a lot of debate that offseason about who's gonna be 575 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: running back. Oh they didn't drafting and running backs No. Nine, 576 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: but the draft had been take in twenty and ten, 577 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,719 Speaker 1: and there's the thought also that Steve Slayton was going 578 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: to return because he was dealing with the neck issue, 579 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of things going on, and Slates 580 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: was great No. Eight. Arion was really good the last 581 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: two games at O. Nine, but there was not that 582 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: feeling of him just reaching up and snatching that position. 583 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: But I remember watching him in the spring of twenty 584 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: ten thinking, ohoh boy, this guy's gonna be He's gonna 585 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: be all kinds of good. And not only that, he's 586 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: gonna be all kinds of good with this passing game 587 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: that can just light it up on anybody. And so 588 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: going into two thousand and ten, I was I was 589 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: really excited because the offense was gonna be phenomenal. And 590 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: then the game one against the Colts, it was. It 591 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: was phenomenal. Arian ran for you know, a couple bills 592 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: I can't remember with two forty one or whatever. He 593 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: was just incredible touch. He was incredible that day, and 594 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: I felt like, Wow, that was confirmation of what I 595 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: had seen it training camp. So going into thousand and ten, 596 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: it was really excited about the offense. But I remember 597 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: watching the offensive training camp at two thousand and ten thinking, man, 598 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: the offense is either really really, really good or the 599 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: defense is gonna get sliced up. And it was comment. 600 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: You were right about both. Both both happened. Both happened. 601 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: At one point in two thousand and ten, the Texans 602 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: past defense was the worst since the NFL AFL merger. 603 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: It might have been at the end of the season, 604 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: but as far as passing yards allowed, I mean, they 605 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: got roasted and roasted by the likes of Sedgi Adjierra 606 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: two two. And you're like, what did you say? Exactly, 607 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: a guy, a guy named Sedgi ad Jr. Two two 608 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: Chargers had a monstrous day and he should not have 609 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: had a monster's day, but he did against that defense. Yeah, 610 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: and you saw that on a weekend week out basis. 611 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: And the thing about it was Edgi Kareem. The thing 612 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: about it that two thousand and tenth season was all 613 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: those games were very winnable. We're all winnable because the 614 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: offense could do anything really it wanted to. It was, 615 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: you know that its own game was just working with Aria. 616 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it was phenomenal. But I was pretty excited. 617 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: I felt like twenty twelve coming off twenty eleven, because 618 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: that was a year where you know, that officas was 619 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: like we had that Shop, if we had Shop and 620 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't knock on TJ He said Shop had had 621 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: he had had those pelts on the wall. He had 622 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: been there, and he thought, man, if he can get 623 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: in that same position again in twenty twelve, what can 624 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: you do? So twenty twelve to me was the exciting 625 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: one going into twenty thirteen. I know a lot of 626 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: people were excited. I was one that was. I wasn't 627 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: and part of it was because I worried about Shop 628 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: at the end of twenty twelve, and I thought there 629 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: would be some carry over from twenty twelve, the struggles, 630 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: the struggles against the Patriots. I remember this distinctly, and 631 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: I felt kind of bad at the time, but then 632 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I wasn't in the building, 633 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: so I was just kind of firing. And so ron 634 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: Jiwarski was working at ESPN at the time. He was 635 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: doing Mona Night Football and he did his quarterback rankings 636 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: and he was counting down a quarterback every day, and 637 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: every day it was maybe he's counting it down. No Shop, 638 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: no Shop, no shob you got to the top ten, 639 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: number ten, No Shop. I'm like, he's got Matt Shop 640 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: in the top ten. And I'm telling you it's if 641 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a problem, I think I think Shop 642 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: could be a problem. Watch him at the end of 643 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: twenty twelve. He was not great. He was not and 644 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: so I was a little bit skeptical of twenty thirteen. 645 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: Then they start off with two wins and they were 646 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: great wins, but it was like, hey, you got two wins. Okay, 647 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: maybe maybe I'm wrong. And then the bottom just fell 648 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: out well, and the bottom fell for a lot of 649 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: reasons and not just Matt Shop. But I wasn't as 650 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: excited about twenty thirteen as I was about twenty twelve. 651 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: I thought twenty twelve was gonna be the year. Turn 652 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: out not to be. We're gonna talk about this and 653 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: a bonus in the Lab podcast in the next week. 654 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, people talk about the bottom falling out with 655 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,479 Speaker 1: shob and it did in twenty thirteen. Yea. But it started, 656 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: like you're saying, at the end of twenty twelve, and 657 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm not just saying in December, you got you can 658 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: go back to the Thanksgiving Day game because we're gonna 659 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: talk about that. Thanks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, big wins there, 660 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: and it was a big win. But there were two 661 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: just massive blunders, massive blunders by the Detroit Lions secondary. 662 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean, shop threw up a pass that you could 663 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: have waived a fair catch under and this guy dropped it. 664 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: And it was so it was starting to creep in 665 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: there because that they should have closed the door on 666 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: the Texans in that game, and they didn't. And that's 667 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: what that's kind of what bad teams do, but they 668 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: didn't play bad teams in New England, right, you know, 669 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: and the good teams took advantage of that. And it's 670 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: like you said, he started there, I think at the 671 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: end of twenty twelve, and I don't know what it was. 672 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was arm strength, it was 673 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: between the years of combo of everything, but it started 674 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: then and he got away with it in those first 675 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: two games of twenty thirteen. His first pass of twenty 676 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: thirteen was a pick yeah, I mean in his his 677 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: own in the field. Next play on offense by the Chargers, 678 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: they score a touchdown. It was essentially a pick six, right, 679 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: And you know, his last pass of that season, when 680 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: he was the Texans were getting gonna lose their fourteenth game, 681 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: last pass the season was picked off. Twenty thirteen was 682 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: such a rough year. But I and I don't mean 683 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 1: that as being like, oh, he looked at a crystal 684 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: ball and I saw it. It It was just you could 685 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: see it on the field. And and I went back 686 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: to that Patriots game, the first Patriots game when it 687 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: really when it really stood out to me, because there 688 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: were a couple throws in that game where I'm like, well, 689 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: you should have seen that. You should have seen that. 690 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: He should have known that was there the interception in 691 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: the end zone, and I think it was in the 692 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: first half of that game. I thought, man, he that 693 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't be a throw that he makes. And I just 694 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: remember why going back and watching that throw closely, and like, 695 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, there's not as much zip and then, you know, 696 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: come to find out in twenty thirteen that he did 697 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, he had he had lost some RPMs on 698 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: the fastball. And it wasn't as if Matt had a 699 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: lot of fastball to begin with. But he had a 700 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: strong arm. But he had a he had a he 701 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: had a he had a He had an average to 702 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: above average arm, so at throws he could make. He 703 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: wasn't sitting there with a popgun arm. But he obviously 704 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: didn't have a Ryan Mallett Howitzer either. But you could 705 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: tell that the velocity the RPMs were off late and 706 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: twelve and going on in thirteen. I just hoped in 707 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: thirteen it was not going to be an issue. It 708 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: turned out to be a major issue. But twenty and 709 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: twelve was the year where I felt like, oh boy, okay, 710 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 1: all right, let's circle it back around in my in 711 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: my off base, or should I be this up Tomas, 712 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: Because I mean, I know the offensive line has to 713 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: get better, but I still think that these weapons, man 714 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: like I think the Texans are capable of a hell 715 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: of a lot. Well, let's go, let's let's tie the 716 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: conversations together. Why why was I so excited about twenty twelve, 717 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: in particular offensively. First of all, you were getting shot 718 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: back a guy that had started since two thousand and seven, 719 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: and he obviously seven and eight he had been banged up, 720 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: but he was a pro bowler at nine and ten 721 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: and eleven, he had been banged up. But you know, 722 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 1: look that's because Albert Haynes were fell on his foot. 723 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: That wasn't because you know, he's not injury prone. You know, 724 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: it'll be back in twenty twelve, would be fine. But 725 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: as the guy that started for six years, you had 726 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 1: an offensive line up front for the most part of 727 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,439 Speaker 1: twenty twelve that had been together. These guys have been 728 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: to other for the most part in twenty twelve. You know, 729 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: wide receivers, you know, Drey was still here, Kevin Walter 730 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 1: was still here. You know, you had continuity. I think 731 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: that's the one thing that this offense has not really 732 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: had last few years. I mean, if you think about 733 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 1: you think about last year, you know, with the offensive line, 734 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: there's a time, there's a time where all five guys 735 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: were either in their first year, first full year as 736 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: a starter, or their first full year with the Texans. Yeah, 737 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: on the offensive line, and yeah, you might start some 738 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: rookies this year, and that might be the case, but 739 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 1: not across the board. You're not gonna have all five 740 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 1: guys that are neither the Texans. I wouldn't think. I mean, 741 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong in that. But let's say you start 742 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: Nick Martine at center. I mean, he's this fourth year. 743 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: Here's third year as a starter, so you've got some experience. 744 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: It's going to be the same quarterback center combination that 745 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 1: you've had that started last year, which is the first 746 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: time that's happened since the shop Chris Meyer's days. That's 747 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: a ways back. So you have continuity to go with 748 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 1: some of the better athletes that are in this league. 749 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: You talk about Will Fuller in four three speed, I mean, legit, 750 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 1: fourth three speed, DeAndre Hopkins best receiver in the league. 751 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: So those guys have been there. Will's fourth year, Deandre's 752 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: what seventh year? I think it's a right seventh year. 753 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: And your young guy who's going to contribute his kiking 754 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: QT and what is he doing in the spring. He 755 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: was lining everybody up telling him where to go. So 756 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 1: he's got a good idea. But he's ahead of Tame mentally. 757 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 1: So at your skill positions, you're not starting, or you're 758 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: not going with any rookies. You're going guys that have 759 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: been around. Deshaun is not a rookie. He's coming off 760 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 1: a year, an offseason in which he was healthy. So 761 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: to me, there are a lot of arrows pointing in 762 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: a positive direction. I think when I read national pundits 763 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: and they're talking about this team, they have well, you 764 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: know it goes back to the offensive line. But I 765 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: really don't think that there is a ton of respect 766 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: given to this to this offense and what it can do. 767 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: But we've seen what it can do. We we saw 768 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: it against the Titans of twenty seventeen. We saw it 769 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,959 Speaker 1: last year in stretches. We saw it at Philadelphia when 770 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: when Sean kind of and he didn't even have all 771 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 1: his weapons that day and had no running game that day, 772 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 1: so and he had a hobble. DeAndre Hopkins, Yeah, Andandre 773 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: Hopkins was it was a for debate whether he was 774 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: gonna actually play in the games. Yeah, he wasn't on 775 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: the field for warmups, and I remember he was not 776 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: in He was on the injury report, but he was 777 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: listed as questionable. But we had heard that he was 778 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: going to play and he's not out there for warmups, 779 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, maybe maybe he's not. Maybe, but 780 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: we know hop. I mean, he's tough as nails and 781 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna get out there whenever he can. He fought 782 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: through I don't know how many injuries in that Colts game. 783 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: I don't know how he made it. But the point 784 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: that the offense is, if you get let's just say 785 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: you get decent offensive line play, let's just say you 786 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: get that, you've got an opportunity man to do some 787 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: really really good things. And and I spent some time 788 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 1: going back and watched I watched every every sack. I 789 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: watched all sixty two sacks, and I kind of I 790 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: charted them all, like what was it down at distance? 791 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: What kind of rush did they face, what kind of 792 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: defense were they facing, what, what was the what was 793 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: the reason for the sack? And so I studied all 794 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: sixty two and I just feel like there were probably 795 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty sacks that could could be cleaned 796 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: up with experience, with a little bit uh more cohesive 797 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: offensive line play, a little bit better offensive line play, 798 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: a little quicker decisions, receivers getting in routes a little 799 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: bit faster. You know, there are things that you can 800 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: you can solve with all that I just mentioned that, 801 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: I think you're you know some of those you can 802 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, Deshaun his third year, you know, knowing the offense, 803 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 1: no one you know, reading NFL defenses. I mean that 804 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: that end of itself, getting a rep of doing that 805 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: every single game. I mean, that's that's really gonna help 806 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: him in year three. M receivers that are a little 807 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,439 Speaker 1: bit twitchier, they're quicker, they get their routes will fuller. 808 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: I mean, how fast can you get across the field. 809 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 1: You know, Kiki Qt, how he can get his routes inside, 810 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: which are just they're unbelievable to watch. I mean the 811 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: offseason he was incredible. Um, you know, and then Hop 812 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: does obviously what he does. So if you get protection, 813 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: and you get decisions made a little bit quicker, if 814 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: you get the run game. You know. Look, those are 815 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,959 Speaker 1: all ifs, but those are all things that they don't 816 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 1: feel like ifs. It feels like those things are going 817 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: to get better. The key is the five guys up front. 818 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: How quick can you come to a consensus on what 819 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: those five should be and how many reps can you 820 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: get them together so they can start working together. Because 821 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: the other thing we didn't talk about too with the 822 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: offensive line from last year is you started with a 823 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: five against New England. The next week you had a 824 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: different five. Well, you started with a five against New England. 825 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: Then it changed right in the second quarter, your second 826 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: quarter drastically, So then week two has got to change. 827 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: Week three was the same as week two, but then 828 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 1: week four you changed again, and then a couple of 829 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: weeks later you went back to another offensive line set, 830 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: and then in week seven you're mister Klomte, so you 831 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: put Man's in there, and obviously Greg's played a lot, 832 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: so I mean, but it's still you had no continuity 833 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 1: the five guys up front, so you can keep those 834 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: guys healthy. The continuity. I go back there work continuity 835 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: because I think it's so valuable in football to have continuity. 836 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: Now they're times where continuity turns into being stale and 837 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: you gotta, you know, kind of shug it up a 838 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: little bit. But I think you got to get to 839 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: that continuity first. And if you can get continuity with 840 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: guys that have been in the lineup together, guys that 841 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: have some experience, and then you put a couple of 842 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: good rookie athletes like Tyus Howard or Max Sharping on 843 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: a line one or both at some point and you 844 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: feel like let them grow and get better. Then you 845 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: got an opportunity for this offense, for us to be 846 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: had this conversation about the offense year in and year 847 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: out for the next how many every years. I can't wait, man, 848 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: neither Ken I Drew. It's gonna be fun. Let's get 849 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: it kicked off eight o'clock tomorrow morning on our Flags 850 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: of Sports Radio six ten Texas Training Camp Live, marking 851 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: myself six straight year together. Tomorrow. We'll have Jamie Roots 852 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 1: on to kick it off, the President of Texas. We'll 853 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: have John McClain, the General, on with us every day 854 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: throughout training camp. Looking forward to it all getting started 855 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: tomorrow and where this marathon goes. Who knows at the end. 856 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: Love to see some confetti fallen down on my head, 857 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: would love that. Thanks so much everybody for listening. We'll 858 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow and as always, go Texas.