WEBVTT - Lights, Camera, Action!

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<v Speaker 1>Fine Down with Jane Kramer and Michael Coffin, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>from radio back to you from New Iberia where New Iberia, Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 1>We are in New Iberia Easton East Bowne is here

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike's here. Now I am so excited. Eastern What

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<v Speaker 1>did you do today? I've never been to the South

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<v Speaker 1>before ever. The closest thing was going to Nashville and I,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I went to your guy's house and then

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<v Speaker 1>I went home. So uh, I was like, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do as much like Southern stuff as I can

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<v Speaker 1>while I'm here. So I went to waffle House for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time you have I had I had eggs,

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<v Speaker 1>um a waffle bacon, and I had hash browns, had

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<v Speaker 1>a smothered covered h Pepford and capped. Did you have

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<v Speaker 1>the runs after? How good was the waffle Though? I

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<v Speaker 1>love waffle House? It was really good. I really, I

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<v Speaker 1>really like it. Like I'm going to try and hit

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<v Speaker 1>it again before I leave. I mean, it's greasy, it's batty,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's so good. It's so it's cheap, like that

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<v Speaker 1>breakfast is like five dollars. Okay, what did you do

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<v Speaker 1>after a waffle House? After waffle house. I went to

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<v Speaker 1>Avery Island, Oh, the Tabasca. I went to the Tabaska.

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<v Speaker 1>I brought you some to Tabasco jelly beans for you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and Tabasco chocolate over there. I went on the Tabasco tour.

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<v Speaker 1>It was spicy and fun. It was cool. I learned

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about peppers, and uh, it smells like Tabasco

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<v Speaker 1>sauce all over the place, so it's like it makes

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<v Speaker 1>your eyes water, but in a really fun way, really

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<v Speaker 1>fun amazing. I also went into the I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's right. The Michaelhenny family that owns Tabasco. They

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<v Speaker 1>they had like a bird park near on every island.

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<v Speaker 1>So I drove around there and I saw an alligator

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<v Speaker 1>that you did did you call? Like I only read

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<v Speaker 1>about these in story book for real? It was crazy

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<v Speaker 1>like uh. At one point I got out of my

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<v Speaker 1>car and I was like taking pictures of just like

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<v Speaker 1>the trees, and I was like looking for gators and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of the water and I see this

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<v Speaker 1>thing start moving like in the like you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>like Jaws or something you'd see like the water ripple.

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<v Speaker 1>I started like, my god, they're slow right, Like I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be okay, it's I kind of reached back and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like touching my door handle, getting ready to jump in,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it comes out of the water and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a turtle, a little turtle. I felt like such.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I was alone because I freaked out. So

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<v Speaker 1>you really didn't see alligator? Then I did see it.

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<v Speaker 1>I did seem later on did you say later gator?

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<v Speaker 1>And then did he say after a while rug? I did? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was exchange. Uh, yeah, it was. It was really fun. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So I drove around there for a bit and then

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<v Speaker 1>I went I went back to my hotel and I

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<v Speaker 1>worked for a little bit, and then I went to

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<v Speaker 1>Raising Canes. It's a it's a chicken chicken spot and

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<v Speaker 1>they do chicken strips. It's really good. We have them

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<v Speaker 1>in California, but they were found in Louisiana. So I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to see you had churches chicken yet, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't had churches chicken. We had those in California, too,

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<v Speaker 1>But wow, that sounds like a really Louisiana Southern day.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it really was. I felt like I got

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<v Speaker 1>the full experience. I love that. Um. Just the heads up,

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<v Speaker 1>I think someone's about to knock on my trailer door. UM, this,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be in and out this episode. I

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<v Speaker 1>might not come back. I might come back, So Mike

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<v Speaker 1>and Eastern are gonna take over the rest of this.

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<v Speaker 1>UM's gotta go work. What's your favorite thing about acting? UM?

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<v Speaker 1>Playing somebody else? Yeah? What's your least favorite thing? Waiting?

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<v Speaker 1>Like the night shoots? I hate what we're doing right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't like night Shoots. But what can I

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<v Speaker 1>just say something really fast? So when we leave, When

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<v Speaker 1>I leave and you guys talk, the only thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I asked that you guys don't talk about is the

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<v Speaker 1>nerd stuff like the Star Wars and the Avengers because

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<v Speaker 1>we will lose subscribers audience. I was. I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about it, like, there goes my whole list of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, because you know, I really don't want people

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<v Speaker 1>to follow us. And do you think we would really

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<v Speaker 1>do that? Um? I mean the whole episode, the whole episode. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know, we know you as like a lungers.

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<v Speaker 1>We I had my we had that talk before the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>because I did. I was actually going to text him

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<v Speaker 1>earlier today about something I forgot that he was here

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<v Speaker 1>waiting to save yeah. So I was like, I'll save it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to myself, I was like, I'll save it

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<v Speaker 1>for in person, But I didn't save it for the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast where you talked about it. Got it? Okay? So

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<v Speaker 1>are you interviewing me right now? Just why we have

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<v Speaker 1>you before we have to go work. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the special guest. Who are the special guests? And

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<v Speaker 1>Mike's podcast, Oh wow, this is the wine down has

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<v Speaker 1>now gone to Eastern and Mike's Mind Down with Eastan

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike. Grab a drink with Eastern and Mike. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So between doing music and acting, what are the like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you get from them that the other doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>give you? Like? What is it about music that you

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<v Speaker 1>get that acting doesn't What is it about acting that

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<v Speaker 1>music doesn't give you? It's interesting, good question. It's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because you get the instant feedback with um, with being

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<v Speaker 1>on stage, so people liking your stuff and singing along,

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<v Speaker 1>and you get that instant gratification almost like if you

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<v Speaker 1>did a Broadway UM, and then you also get to

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<v Speaker 1>be yourself. But at the same time, I still you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a hard time performing live in the very beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>but then I was like, no, I can put on

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<v Speaker 1>this entertainer role and be an act that even though

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still myself and I'm still putting on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the show and being an entertainer. But with acting, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it gives um you get to be creative

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<v Speaker 1>and you get to step aside. And that's what I said.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite things about this is because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I get to step aside and leave my

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<v Speaker 1>reality and become Sarah's reality. Most is my character and

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<v Speaker 1>and with Alex and I just get to have fun.

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<v Speaker 1>They get to explore when I get to be like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what this person would do. I know what

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<v Speaker 1>I would do, but what would she do? So there's

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<v Speaker 1>something in this show that um I was. I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking to imas Emily or director and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>why did you take that out? That was so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, yeah, but I don't think that's what the

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<v Speaker 1>character would have done. So I think that's what you

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<v Speaker 1>would have done. And I was like, you're so right,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not something that my character would have done.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's about like having to think about what this

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<v Speaker 1>other person would do and get to, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of live that and then leave that character and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, you know next so interesting. So now the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite of that between the two, what is what is

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<v Speaker 1>it about them that you don't like? Like? What is

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest downfall of being a singer and doing music

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<v Speaker 1>was the biggest downfall and negative aspect of being an

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<v Speaker 1>actress or an actor? I'm sorry, I mean I think

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<v Speaker 1>with this singing and so personal, that's why I was

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<v Speaker 1>so afraid to go into singing because I felt they're

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<v Speaker 1>telling me, no, they're telling me they don't like me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's different with acting because I feel like you walk

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<v Speaker 1>into room, all right, maybe I'm I'm Burnett and they

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<v Speaker 1>want a blond, or maybe they just saw a different version,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're not saying that I'm not good enough. So

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<v Speaker 1>do you think actors in general, if a movie flops

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<v Speaker 1>or a movie doesn't do well or I make up,

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<v Speaker 1>that they would still or that somewhere in your shoes

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<v Speaker 1>would still kind of take it personally because it's still

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<v Speaker 1>you put in the performance, is still you performing well.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where what I was going to go to,

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<v Speaker 1>that is to what I was saying is both ways artists,

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<v Speaker 1>singers musicians. I think artists in general were so deathly

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<v Speaker 1>insecure like you. I was just talking to one of

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<v Speaker 1>the girls playing Miss Clara, and we were just saying

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<v Speaker 1>how we always want like affirmation, like was that a

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<v Speaker 1>good was that a good enough scene? And there's only

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<v Speaker 1>been I would say a handful. There's been maybe three

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<v Speaker 1>scenes that I've walked away and said I was a

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<v Speaker 1>dent on that, and there's never been. And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>downfall with the acting, in the in the music is

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<v Speaker 1>because you don't walk a way saying wow each time

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense like you, you you feel insecure, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the hardest part because I'm like, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>could have done better at that, or man, I could

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<v Speaker 1>have done this. And I was talking to um who

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<v Speaker 1>was I talking to the other damn set? Oh? I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking to the producer because I was telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, it just sucks that we have that internal battle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing with saying like, man, I could

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<v Speaker 1>have saying that one better and I could have done

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<v Speaker 1>this on that show. I could have been way more

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<v Speaker 1>on and I was tired or whatever. Same with the

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<v Speaker 1>acting side, and he's like, well, is there anything that

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're good at? And I was like, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a great freaking mom. That's the only thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I can say that I can like hang my hat on,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why Again, to your point, the negative is

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<v Speaker 1>feeling like you're just not good enough and that's not

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<v Speaker 1>good enough. Do you think acting and like movies and

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<v Speaker 1>film and TV, is more subjective than music, Like, even

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<v Speaker 1>though it all depends on everyone's personal tastes and preference

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<v Speaker 1>and all of that, but I just just from you

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it, it kind of feels like music. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>either like country or don't either like hip hop or

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<v Speaker 1>you don't cut more so, but it's like acting. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I have both made each other watch movies

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe we wouldn't watch, and then we're sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh this that was really good. I really

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed that. So because of that, do you find it harder? Because,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're saying to you the scene, you're like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I could have done that better, but that's just

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<v Speaker 1>your opinion. Your director or your producer or someone else

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<v Speaker 1>might be like that was an amazing yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so do you even though you didn't feel that way

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<v Speaker 1>at first, because you have that information, or you're like, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was great well, and that's the battle. So like

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<v Speaker 1>with one of the scenes that we just filmed the

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<v Speaker 1>first day, I was I texted Daniel and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, man, I was not on. I just had

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<v Speaker 1>a really tough time in that scene because I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I have a lot writing on this and

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to do good because it's my first

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<v Speaker 1>movie back in you know, a year and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just I don't want to come back and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, man, she sucks like she took too much

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<v Speaker 1>time off, and so the internal voices in our head,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, and I was crying and I felt so stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just I really, like, you know, having such

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time. And he, you know, he ended up

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<v Speaker 1>saying he's like, hey, the scene turned out amazing. What

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about? But again, that's just the downfall

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<v Speaker 1>is just not feeling like you you have to. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>and here's what I've learned with auditioning, which is total

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<v Speaker 1>total different beasts, is saying, okay, audition, I go in

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm done with it. I throw away the sides

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<v Speaker 1>I don't because you can't. You'll just stew and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh I could have done this better. I could and

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<v Speaker 1>that it's like, Okay, now I'm trying to learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to just leave it in the scene. Well, especially because

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<v Speaker 1>you guys just from an outsiders you know, perspective is

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<v Speaker 1>seeing all their auditions, all the stuff you've gone in

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<v Speaker 1>the room for, all the stuff you put on tape.

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<v Speaker 1>That would drive me nuts if you just hung onto

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<v Speaker 1>every single one and dissected. Is like, I actually have

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<v Speaker 1>done this. Let's do another table, you know, and send

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<v Speaker 1>that one in. It's like, no, you can be a

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<v Speaker 1>never ending cycle. It's like that one audition we did

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<v Speaker 1>when you were hungry. So it always brings me back to, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so hard some times running We we self tape

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. That was funny. That was fun Yeah. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>Janna just kept wanting to do a scene over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again. And she caught me like right before lunch

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<v Speaker 1>or something. One second, they're ready, okay, And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Janna realized after the twenty tages like, Okay, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're hungry, you eat al right, guys, let's say I

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Slash Jana al Right, well now it's uh

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<v Speaker 1>boys only club, no girls allowed. Janna has to go

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<v Speaker 1>work man, poor thing she's got late these I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what, just being with Jana, the the demand that

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<v Speaker 1>the business that she's in between singing, like when you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be on tour all the time and being on set acting.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, from the outside looking in looks like an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing time, like party and not stop or having a

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<v Speaker 1>great time, and it's a blast, and it's so easy

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<v Speaker 1>and fun. These musicians, these entertaineers, these actors and actresses,

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<v Speaker 1>they work their ass off. It's unbelievable. And like something

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<v Speaker 1>when I was I was talking to her and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that this particular project, it's a Christmas movie.

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<v Speaker 1>This is August in Louisiana. Like we have to pretend

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<v Speaker 1>it's cold outside and like everyone's wearing like giant coats

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. And I'm like, oh my god, like that

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<v Speaker 1>that's it's just like you have to do the scene

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<v Speaker 1>a million times in different angles that you're sweating your

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<v Speaker 1>butt off. Man. It's just like you know, I'm I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes me very thankful that I just have to

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<v Speaker 1>press record and then it gets to go home to

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<v Speaker 1>my absolutely no question. It makes me wonder. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>why do they have to record or film these movies

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<v Speaker 1>right now? Like why they can't give themselves like a

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<v Speaker 1>ten month timeline to like film them back in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>late winter, early spring. They have to do it in

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<v Speaker 1>like August and just have three months until it comes out.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I was thinking about that too. I just

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<v Speaker 1>assumed that it would be nice to do you wait

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<v Speaker 1>till the wintertime, you record all of them for the

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<v Speaker 1>next year, you know. But I guess I I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how that we don't know the inner working as

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<v Speaker 1>much like us. It's like it sounds so simple. Why

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<v Speaker 1>not I'll fix it? Um. You know. It's funny though,

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<v Speaker 1>because the first time I don't remember what movie it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but the first time I went like on a set

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<v Speaker 1>with Channah and I was excited. I was like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm going to set, see what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 1>After like a few days and I'm like, can I

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<v Speaker 1>go home? Honey? I love you? But I'm good, can

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<v Speaker 1>I can I take off? Because it's just like you

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<v Speaker 1>said from so, it's they'll do the same scene and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll like wrap on the scene and like all right,

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<v Speaker 1>like we get to go. Nope, they got to do

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<v Speaker 1>the same scene ten more times from a different angle.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes they'll have stand ins, but a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times they won't. Depends on you the level movie and

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<v Speaker 1>budget and this and that and what kind of angle

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<v Speaker 1>they have of you. But it's it's just it's exhausting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's exhausting, and honestly, to all those listeners, it's boring.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it is, it really is. I got to

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<v Speaker 1>watch them shoot. Um we talked about this last week,

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<v Speaker 1>but I got to watch them shoot a part where

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<v Speaker 1>Janet didn't speak, like she was just like on her

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<v Speaker 1>she was like texting somebody and like a character comes

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<v Speaker 1>up and talks to her, but you can't really hear

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<v Speaker 1>what they're I think they're gonna ad r it or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was watching them and it was they did it.

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<v Speaker 1>They did it like five times, so like not that many,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a really short shot. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>having like once I realized like Okay, they're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>this a couple more times, Like I was watching some

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<v Speaker 1>of the background people to see if they change. Like

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<v Speaker 1>there's this old couple. They're supposed to walk through the

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<v Speaker 1>room and they're terrely supposed to be leaving the room,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, this time, the guy straightened

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<v Speaker 1>his tie as he was walking right. Those little things

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<v Speaker 1>to keep you entertained. I'm excited to see which take

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<v Speaker 1>they use in the final product. And I and I

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<v Speaker 1>always pick up on those things and movies in general,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm always I like I could be that person

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<v Speaker 1>that calls out. And we were just talking about it

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<v Speaker 1>off off air about you pick up on things that

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<v Speaker 1>are the goose and movies. It's like, well, he was

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<v Speaker 1>holding his right hand here, but in this scene he

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<v Speaker 1>was holding his laugh like what you know, what's going on? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>But no, it's a lot of fun. And I admire

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<v Speaker 1>Janna for the work that she puts into all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's unbelievable. And then you know, she had

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<v Speaker 1>a whole week away from Jolie and joint Julie and

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<v Speaker 1>I just flew here, and she'll have another week away

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<v Speaker 1>from us next week when we leave. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fortunately she's had jcre the whole week and that keeps

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<v Speaker 1>her happy. But it's a lot, man, these families that

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<v Speaker 1>lived this life. It's it's it takes its hole. It

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<v Speaker 1>really does. Speaking of entertainment, so unfortunately I wasn't there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if you guys talked about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but your presence on stage with Janna at the House

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<v Speaker 1>of Blues and Anaheim a couple of weeks ago, which

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<v Speaker 1>was legendary. Thank you. And for those of you who

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<v Speaker 1>don't follow Janna, I'm sure do you still have it

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<v Speaker 1>on your Instagram? It's on parts of it on my Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Janna has the whole thing on hers, Okay, So go

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<v Speaker 1>to Jan's Instagram, on her Instagram TV, on her Instagram TV,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll see Eastern up there on stage out singing

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<v Speaker 1>Channa on our own songs. You know. I will say

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<v Speaker 1>this though, and I admire your ability to seize a movement.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you very much. You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we talked about this. So it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things that at least me personally, there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>moments in my life where it could be something that

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<v Speaker 1>silly is doing something like that going up on stage

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<v Speaker 1>and singing or doing karaoke, which I did in college,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much. We had a little boy band

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<v Speaker 1>going on called the Little Dudes. It was fantastic. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>and your boy bands on. It was awesome Tuesday nights

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<v Speaker 1>at the pub in Harrisonburg, Virginia. Anyways, enough down memory lane,

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<v Speaker 1>um No, But being able, that's just something a trait

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<v Speaker 1>that I wish I could have more of and just

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<v Speaker 1>really seize a moment and take advantage of it, because

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<v Speaker 1>that then you just have regrets, you know. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like any any situation like that and that

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<v Speaker 1>we've kind of experienced together or that I've seen you in,

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<v Speaker 1>you always just sees the day. You just make the

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<v Speaker 1>most of it. Like today you're in New Iberia, Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 1>No one probably probably listening knows where that is, and

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<v Speaker 1>you just went out found what was here and just

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<v Speaker 1>went out and ventured out. A lot of people maybe

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<v Speaker 1>would have just stayed in their hotel room. I I

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<v Speaker 1>probably would have done that, you know. I mean, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just stayed in my hotel room, maybe gone somewhere. But

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<v Speaker 1>you just go by yourself and just enjoy the day,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And that's one of those things that as people,

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<v Speaker 1>as human beings, it's like we don't want to. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>says no regrets, like you know, no regrets. No one

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<v Speaker 1>wants any of that. But yet when the time comes,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't step up. But people like you, there's plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of people like you that are able to take advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of that. What is that? Is that? Is that just

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<v Speaker 1>your personality? Do you have some kind of explanation where

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<v Speaker 1>your parents always told you to seize a moment or

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<v Speaker 1>is it just kind of part of you? You know? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>It my my my parents definitely taught me to, like

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<v Speaker 1>because my dad like is a bodybuilder and he like

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<v Speaker 1>would do bodybuiding shows and stuff like that, and he,

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<v Speaker 1>uh he always talked about like the first one he entered,

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, nothing good ever happened if I don't

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<v Speaker 1>do this, you know, like like yeah, I might lose

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<v Speaker 1>and embarrass myself, but but like it'll just never happen

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't. That's the only way to guarantee something

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen, is if you don't do it. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't know, I get um. I always I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always afraid of what if I didn't do something? That's

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<v Speaker 1>what like I get afraid of so um, I try to.

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<v Speaker 1>I try to try a bunch of stuff. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's worked out for me. Yeah. And you know, Jane

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<v Speaker 1>and I have talked about kind of this topic before.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll have this thing where I will want something

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<v Speaker 1>good happens, and after, like I'm sitting with it, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>like think back and I'll play this game with myself,

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<v Speaker 1>like what if that didn't happen, especially with like football, right,

0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:07.320
<v Speaker 1>what if I didn't make that catch? What if I

0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:10.080
<v Speaker 1>had to drop that touchdown? What? And it's I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why I do, but it's just so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what if I didn't get married to Janna? What? It's

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<v Speaker 1>just you know what I mean, Just there's there's positive

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<v Speaker 1>things in life that that have happened to every to

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<v Speaker 1>to to the listeners, to you, to me, to whoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking about man, what did I do? Like how did

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<v Speaker 1>I put myself in a situation for this to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>And then what if I didn't take advantage of it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. Darius Recker has a song

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<v Speaker 1>called this and uh he said, it's like forever stop

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<v Speaker 1>glad I didn't take ever I did or didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like whatever happened in my life has led

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<v Speaker 1>me to this moment, and you know, and I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>I made those decisions. I was thinking just the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>I I UM, I recently started seeing my therapist again

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<v Speaker 1>after like six years of not seeing a therapist. Do

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<v Speaker 1>anything inspire that or just you're just like I'm having

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having some problems with some close friends of mine

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<v Speaker 1>and it's um affecting me more than I would like

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<v Speaker 1>it too, And I'm like complaining to my wife about

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<v Speaker 1>it a lot. And she she's had a lot, she's

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<v Speaker 1>had a very hard time these last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>She's had a lot of really bad stuff happened. And

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<v Speaker 1>I had this realization, like the last thing she needs

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<v Speaker 1>is me like bitching to about like my like dumb friends.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, this is something that like it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably a deeper issue I need to work with um

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<v Speaker 1>with someone about but UM. When I first started seeing her,

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<v Speaker 1>I was in this like really bad relationship that was

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<v Speaker 1>like really destroying my life. Like and uh, I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times about if I was still with

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<v Speaker 1>that person, I'm like, I don't think nothing in my

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<v Speaker 1>life would be the same, Like I probably would have

0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:55.640
<v Speaker 1>gotten her pregnant at some point. I would have never

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<v Speaker 1>moved to Los Angeles. I would never like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>reconnect with Alice, like like everything in my life would

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<v Speaker 1>be different if it wasn't for that um and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's I think we all have those types of

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't call it a turning point, but we

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<v Speaker 1>all have those moments where like, God, if I had

0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:14.080
<v Speaker 1>done this thing different, yeah, yeah, my life would be

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<v Speaker 1>so much worse than it is now. And you just

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<v Speaker 1>have to like somethings like reflect on those decisions and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, Okay, I know what I'm doing right, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you have you found that beneficial senior therapist? Again?

0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I forgot. I feel like an idiot for not going

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<v Speaker 1>for so long, because I really think even if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any I really I'm on those people where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, even if you don't have anything like going on,

0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:40.000
<v Speaker 1>like uh, you're not struggling with anything that you know of,

0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:43.399
<v Speaker 1>I really think everyone can benefit from It's yeah, it's funny.

0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:46.879
<v Speaker 1>It's always it's always those Uh. That's like Jenny and

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<v Speaker 1>I have said this before, probably on here, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably when we first started where we'd go into those

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<v Speaker 1>couple therapy sessions and we kind of stay to each

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:57.159
<v Speaker 1>other like we don't really should we cancel because we

0:22:57.200 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 1>don't really have anything. And those are the days that

0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:02.240
<v Speaker 1>we go in and just you know, can of worms

0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:05.359
<v Speaker 1>is open and we're like, what just happened? You know,

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:07.879
<v Speaker 1>because you said you feel like you're you're in this

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 1>like dormant state that you have nothing going on, nothing

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:11.680
<v Speaker 1>to talk about. But I got I gotta do is

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:15.120
<v Speaker 1>sit in a room, just start talking. That stuff comes out, man.

0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:19.560
<v Speaker 1>And it's it's been bothering me being back in Nashville,

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<v Speaker 1>not having my therapist from l A on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, We've done some phone sessions, but it's not

0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the same as being in person. But I've just been

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:33.720
<v Speaker 1>in Nashville. There's a lot going on. Jenna and I

0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:36.240
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of projects we're working on. You know,

0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:37.879
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about how being back in Nashville is a

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:39.920
<v Speaker 1>little bit harder on a relationship. Right now, we're still

0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:43.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to navigate it um and so I don't have

0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:46.880
<v Speaker 1>that person to talk to to go see and it's

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:48.919
<v Speaker 1>it's really starting to weigh on me because I have

0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:52.480
<v Speaker 1>all these all these like feelings like going on that

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:56.159
<v Speaker 1>I just honestly, I feel like a lot of them

0:23:56.160 --> 0:24:00.360
<v Speaker 1>have come outsideways and I haven't been able to rest

0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 1>them in the best ways to Janna, and you know,

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:07.120
<v Speaker 1>probably because that we're in a rough spot right now

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 1>and it's you know, it sucks, and you know, she's

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:13.879
<v Speaker 1>been here shooting a movie. I've been at home with

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:16.679
<v Speaker 1>Jolie working on some other projects we've got going on

0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 1>and take care of things there. And so it's just

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:26.080
<v Speaker 1>not having that regular just outlet of just talking things out,

0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:29.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, and trying to navigate it yourself. So the

0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:31.960
<v Speaker 1>past two months have really been an eye opener for

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:34.879
<v Speaker 1>me just being like I really need therapy, you know,

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 1>like I need to find someone on a regular basis

0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 1>physically in front of me in Nashville. And at first

0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:45.199
<v Speaker 1>I was just too biased towards my therapist in l

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:47.719
<v Speaker 1>A because I was just like, the biggest thing is

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:52.240
<v Speaker 1>telling everyone your story, right exactly. You don't especially with

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 1>think Janna and I have a story. It's like, alright, Doc,

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 1>how much time to goat because uh, you know, I

0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:01.480
<v Speaker 1>gotta catch up to speak here. There's a lot of

0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 1>loaded information coming your way. Yeah, you know, I I

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:09.200
<v Speaker 1>have been doing phone My therapis is in my hometown

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 1>in Santa Cruz, California, and I've been doing phone sessions

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:14.879
<v Speaker 1>and it's it isn't it's it's not the same. And

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:17.360
<v Speaker 1>and that's a reason why I haven't. I haven't even

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.080
<v Speaker 1>tried to find someone in l A because not only

0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>did I see her before, but she, um, she saw

0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:25.119
<v Speaker 1>my sister when my parents were getting divorced, so she

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:27.399
<v Speaker 1>knows like all about my family all but my parents

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and everything. And like it's the idea of getting someone

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 1>else up to speed is so daunting, you know, yeah,

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 1>because then you're gonna spend part of these sessions, some

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:38.199
<v Speaker 1>not even part of a lot of these sessions end

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 1>up being like, well let me tell you about this

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>real quick so you can get the context, you know.

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:44.199
<v Speaker 1>But there these people are professionals and they pick up

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 1>on this stuff pretty quick. Um. But yeah, before we

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:51.160
<v Speaker 1>move forward with some more stuff we gotta talk about,

0:25:51.280 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 1>let's take a break. All right, We're back from our break.

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>It's me and East in here. We're sitting in Jana's

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 1>trailer in New Iberia, uh, just off the set site

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 1>here filming her movie and uh, she might be popping

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 1>in a little bit later, who knows, hopefully, But so

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:21.400
<v Speaker 1>the men have the control right now. And you guys

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>are probably thinking we're gonna be talking about some nonsense.

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 1>But like I just talked about, touched on for a second,

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Janna and I are in a rough spot, probably probably

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:40.400
<v Speaker 1>the worst consistently that we've been. Yeah, I think it's

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:43.639
<v Speaker 1>just been a lot of a lot more up and

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 1>down than we have had recently. Now, the good thing,

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>the good thing with us is we've come a long way.

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Because if this was a year or two ago, us

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 1>up and down would be questioning the relationship, right. You

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>would be like, I'm gonna divorce you know, I'm gonna

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 1>divorce you and you know you're like that game. And

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:10.919
<v Speaker 1>but now that this is the difference is that we realize, no,

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 1>that's not an option. We're not going to get to

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 1>that level. We're not going to play that game. We're

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna work this out, we're gonna figure out what's going on.

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna keep fighting for our family, for each other.

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 1>But it's it's been one of those things I'm sure

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>everyone can relate in their relationship. You're just getting a rut,

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:30.120
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So it's just like, what

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 1>and even with all the work that Jan and I've

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>had and all the you know, guidance and help and everything,

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>it's still right now we're kind of stuck. It's like, wait,

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:45.640
<v Speaker 1>what do we do to to to you know, get

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 1>the paddles and jump start this, you know, clear and

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>jump start us back and just kind of you know,

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of get back there dune Alison ever go like

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>you guys go through ruts and what has helped you? Guys? Um?

0:27:56.920 --> 0:28:00.119
<v Speaker 1>You know, our our marriage is so new, right, we

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:05.159
<v Speaker 1>haven't there's times where like, well bicker more than normal,

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 1>but uh we we haven't. Um, we haven't had any

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 1>like real ruts yet. And I do I attribute that

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 1>to like, we just haven't had the time. I'm sure

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>that will happen. Did this did this most recent like

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:24.880
<v Speaker 1>like like what you're feeling right now? Did this kind

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:28.120
<v Speaker 1>of start before she left to film the movie? Yeah? Yeah,

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>yeah it did. And it was just it's just been

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the combination of being back in Nashville working on projects

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>that we're working on, and we it's hard. It's hard

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>to work together, it really is. We work in two

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 1>completely different styles two completely different ways, and that's just

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 1>how it is. Janna is planned and scheduled and and

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>wants to know exactly I'm gonna do this from this time,

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 1>this time, this day, I'm gonna do this, and I'm

0:28:57.840 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more laws by fair where I'm like, well,

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:02.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start working on this, and if it's just

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>not working that day, I'm not gonna force it. I'm

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna do something else productive, but I'm gonna I always

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.479
<v Speaker 1>get it done. But it's like Janna starts to get

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 1>stressed out if it's not on her schedule. She starts

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>to lose it, and then you know, thinks I'm not

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>working hard or thinks I'm procrastinating, which is like a

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>trigger word for me because my parents always used to

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>use that word with me, and I hate it. And

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll just be like, just because I'm not

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 1>working the way you do, doesn't mean I'm procrastinating. I

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 1>was like, I wouldn't have gotten to the place I

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 1>did my life with my former career if I was

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 1>a procrastinator, you know what I mean, Like I have

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>something to hang my hat on at the end of

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 1>the day, like a little bit of of you know,

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of leverage here, I guess, um, but it's but no,

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's been since beforehand and um yeah, and

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>so we're just trying to navigate. Don't help that she's

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 1>out of town right now. But I'm curious and I'll

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>be curious for p well listening to send emails in

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I would just love to get other ideas on what

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 1>people do in their relationships to jump start people that

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 1>are even if they're just boyfriend girlfriend who married for

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 1>multiple years and have kids, Like, what do you guys

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>do two when you're in a rut in your relationship?

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 1>What do you do? You know? And the thing is,

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>what's hard, especially when you have two stubborn personalities like

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Janna and I, is it takes one person to put

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>down their their sword and shield. First, you gotta put

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 1>it down and come in. The problem is is that

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>if you do that and you get burned and the

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>other person doesn't meet you there, then that wall wants

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>to go up even you know, even faster and harder

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>and taller and thicker, and then you don't want to

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of come up, come out of there. And that's

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of been the battle between Jana and I and

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that's why it's lingered, just because we've both

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>had our moments of trying to lean in and put

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>our guard down, and the other person just wasn't ready,

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, And we weren't willing. We're

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>both being stubborn and weren't willing to meet each other

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 1>in that place. And so that while we'll go back

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 1>up and push this further apart, you know, so it's

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll just really be curious. I love feedback on what

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 1>other people do. That's a wind down, and I hurt

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<v Speaker 1>but no, so we're talking about being in the ret

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0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>wall is I'll usually do some reading, some like meditational stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>some reading and you know, all those kind of things

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:39.200
<v Speaker 1>and proverbs about you know, something only has has as

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0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:44.880
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<v Speaker 1>I want to be that way more in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to live like that and be just a

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<v Speaker 1>calm person. And in so many aspects of my life

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<v Speaker 1>I am so many and now was a that was

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<v Speaker 1>a one of my biggest traits in former careers, whether

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:10.280
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<v Speaker 1>For whatever reason, when it comes to personal relationships, especially

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0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:22.919
<v Speaker 1>if it's because it's more personal and I take things

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>more personal because it's a relationship, but it's just I'm

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:33.280
<v Speaker 1>just way more you know, up and down. When uh,

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 1>if Janet comes to you with a like she's upset

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>with something, do you find like do you find yourself

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say losing control, but like do

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:50.919
<v Speaker 1>you react like aggressively or defensively? Like because that because

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I too am a calm person. I mean, you know me,

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:56.759
<v Speaker 1>but I do I find myself? Like if Alison comes

0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 1>to me with something I like, she'll say like easter,

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:01.399
<v Speaker 1>imply is lower your voice and like I don't start

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 1>like screaming, but I do get like more animated and yeah,

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's my thing. To Janna. Janna be like,

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 1>WHOA calm down, Like, I'm just I'm not angry or yelling.

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm just animated. I'm passionate. I love screaming. I am calm,

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>like I'm only angry when you say I'm angry. But

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>you know it's if she comes to me like that,

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I've always unfortunately a character defect of mine is being defensive.

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>It really is, and I admit that I own that.

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to work on it um And again, I

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.760
<v Speaker 1>think it's just because in relationships, I take everything personal.

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 1>So when when she comes to me and said, it's

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 1>for me, it's all about delivery. And maybe maybe I'm

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 1>overly sensitive in my expectation to how I need something delivered.

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>But depending on the situations, sometimes I need like a

0:35:54.880 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>little affirmation before before or they before she brings the

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>problem to me, like, hey, honey, I know you're you've

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:09.880
<v Speaker 1>been working really hard on this project that we're working on, um,

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 1>but you know I have some fears around it not

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>getting done in time, and you know, can we talk

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 1>about this instead of uh so, what are you doing today? Okay,

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>oh you're not done with that yet, or you know

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 1>why we're gonna be behind? Like I told you this

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:28.800
<v Speaker 1>was gonna happen if you didn't procrastinate, like this wouldn't happen,

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So there's there's just ways

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:36.799
<v Speaker 1>to to to deliver things and both of us can

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:42.279
<v Speaker 1>be better at that. UM. I think Janna. Janna is

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:44.399
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more candid when it comes to out

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 1>than I am, because she's used to handling people like

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>that because of the business aspect of the careers that

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:56.479
<v Speaker 1>she has been in with entertainment music, Like you gotta

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>be direct to the point, candid, no bs, like tell

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 1>me what the reality is exactly you know what I mean,

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:04.759
<v Speaker 1>and get things done. And that's how Janna is. And

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 1>when she said people that work for her or with

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:09.720
<v Speaker 1>her or whatever it may be, Janna likes the answers

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:13.319
<v Speaker 1>she cuts. She cuts to the bs where you know,

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm a salesa guy. You know, I'm gray. I live

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>in the grade. Baby, Yeah, A little bit, this a

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:21.839
<v Speaker 1>little bit of that, you know. So it's a it's

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:24.879
<v Speaker 1>a little We're just different. We're different, you know, we're

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 1>different people were all different people in different human beings

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 1>and we're trying to make it work. But it's just no,

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's hard, man. And like learning trying to

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 1>have teach yourself when you when you have a reaction

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 1>that is like you know that you go to like

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 1>like if you said you get defensive. Um, it's so

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:49.399
<v Speaker 1>hard to It's it's like learning to walk with like

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 1>another left foot, you know. Like it just feels so

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 1>at least for me, like when when when there's a

0:37:56.040 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 1>conflict and I'm finding myself kind of acting unhealthy just

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 1>because that's what I go to and like I have

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:04.359
<v Speaker 1>to like talk myself through and it's so hard because

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:06.400
<v Speaker 1>it feels so natural at the time, you know, but

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 1>then then you know it turns out to be better

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 1>for everybody. But it's it's just it's so hard, especially

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:17.320
<v Speaker 1>when you're with someone and the way that they're handling

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 1>the conflict is so much different than the way you do.

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 1>It really is and it's you know, full disclosure, Like

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I've gone to anger management, I've done all that. I

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.399
<v Speaker 1>had a great therapist in Los Angeles that I saw

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>for probably a year and a half of the time

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:34.839
<v Speaker 1>that we were there, and dig amazing work with her,

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 1>and she's definitely helped me tremendously. But it's it's still

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:42.959
<v Speaker 1>a lot of those things that I deal with where

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 1>it is just I'm just still trying to change those

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 1>ways of how I receive, how I take information. And

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 1>it sounds so simple just to just for someone to

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 1>say something and for you to not to take it

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>personally and just be like, Okay, I'm sorry that you

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 1>feel the way that you do, and just being able

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:04.439
<v Speaker 1>to live in your reality because my thing is where

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:10.320
<v Speaker 1>it comes from is even if I know my truth

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 1>is the truth, right, regardless of what Jan or anybody

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:15.759
<v Speaker 1>else thinks, right, I know what the truth is. I

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 1>know that I'm working hard on this, or I know

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:21.359
<v Speaker 1>that I did this, or whatever it may be. I

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:25.839
<v Speaker 1>hate that, even though I know it's the truth. If

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Janna thinks I'm not a hard worker, or somebody else

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>thinks I'm a bad person or whatever it is, that's

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>where my defensiveness comes up. I'm like, it drives me

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 1>nuts to think that someone has an opinion of me

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that's not what I wanted to be, especially when it

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>comes to certain things, not everything. There's something I don't

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 1>care if you think that. I mean, I really don't care.

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:49.839
<v Speaker 1>I know that's on the truth. There's certain things like

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:55.880
<v Speaker 1>being a respectful person, being a hard worker, um being

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:59.439
<v Speaker 1>you know nowadays, definitely being someone who's honest and lives

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:01.400
<v Speaker 1>within tech or be and stuff like that. Someone challenges

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:04.760
<v Speaker 1>those kind of things that have really, you know, changed

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 1>gears in my life to to really be those that

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of person. If that gets challenged, that's what I take.

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Just personally. I'm just like, no, you don't understand, like

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:16.839
<v Speaker 1>I am a good person. You know. It's just like

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe and maybe it's because you know I was before

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:26.880
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of those aspects, especially in relationships, and

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's why. Because I'm I'm I'm trying so hard

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>to be a much better person than was before. It's like,

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't I be take that personal? I don't have

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the track record to be confident in my truth. Really honestly,

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't be like, I don't care what you think

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 1>about me. I'm a great person. I've been a great,

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:48.800
<v Speaker 1>spousing boyfriend my entire life. But it's like, no, you haven't,

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 1>but now I am. But why do I why do

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:54.439
<v Speaker 1>I have to defend that? And I think I really

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 1>do think it's a it's a male thing. Yeah, yeah,

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:04.479
<v Speaker 1>that's a distinctly male thing. Um. Uh, but I totally

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 1>understand it. It's so hard to let your like you

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 1>were saying though, Like saying that about a situation is

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 1>so much easier to say than when you're in it,

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:21.240
<v Speaker 1>and you know, uh and trying to like walk yourself

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:25.719
<v Speaker 1>through a different way. And God is just like did

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 1>you did you ever go see like a therapist before? Um?

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:37.799
<v Speaker 1>Like the sex action stuff and everything? Uh? Yes and

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:42.839
<v Speaker 1>no yes, because Jan and I went to see her

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:47.360
<v Speaker 1>couples or her individual therapist as our couple's therapist when

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I first move to Nashville. Um, but it wasn't really

0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 1>beneficial because I'll lyne you know what I mean. So

0:41:56.520 --> 0:42:00.400
<v Speaker 1>it was like going to therapy and lying because I

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't being a faithful or on his part. So it

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:07.319
<v Speaker 1>didn't do anything because I was just full of shit.

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 1>So no, not really, not until after did everything I learned,

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:16.279
<v Speaker 1>like how to have healthy and therapy and how it

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 1>can be beneficial. Do you have any emails? We do have?

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Um enough about our problem? All right, here we go.

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:34.480
<v Speaker 1>This one is from Courtney. Alright, Courtney, She says, uh, Hi,

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Janna and Mike and Easton. My boyfriend cheated on me

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 1>at a bachelor party a few months ago. He was

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:44.719
<v Speaker 1>completely remorseful and embarrassed. The situation has been traumatic for

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 1>both of us. He knew he messed up big time.

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 1>After many, many talks about what happened and how we

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 1>can move forward to come out stronger, I've decided to

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:55.760
<v Speaker 1>stay and make it work. The only thing that seems

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:57.400
<v Speaker 1>to be weighing me down is what my family and

0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:00.320
<v Speaker 1>friends think. They're all aware of what happened. My boyfriend

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 1>wrote my parents a letter, and I keep having ambiguous

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 1>conversations with them. I want their approval, of course, but

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:07.879
<v Speaker 1>how do you recommend talk to them about this? How

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:13.320
<v Speaker 1>do you recommend justifying why I decided to stay? Great

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 1>great email, Courtney. Um. First of all, great decision to stay,

0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 1>especially because of his actions, the fact that he's been remorseful,

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, empathetic, understanding of her feelings, it seems like,

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 1>and is willing to talk about it. Isn't defending and saying,

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 1>you know anything as a bachelor party like what you

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:47.439
<v Speaker 1>know whatever. He's not excusing or rationalizing or justifying any

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 1>of the behavior. And the fact, the biggest thing right

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:53.799
<v Speaker 1>here the fact that he wrote your parents a letter

0:43:55.320 --> 0:44:00.120
<v Speaker 1>and was willing to address that and speak to them.

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 1>That speaks volumes of I think his character. Yes, he

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:09.319
<v Speaker 1>cheated on you, so it still sucks, but the fact

0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:11.720
<v Speaker 1>that he's willing to do that, because I know plenty

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:16.399
<v Speaker 1>of guys who still continuously want to sweep it under

0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the rug and don't want to address it or haven't

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 1>addressed it with any of their spouses, families, or friends

0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 1>or anything, because a lot of them don't know anything.

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:27.280
<v Speaker 1>NASA is coming from the addiction side because of the anonymity,

0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:31.879
<v Speaker 1>which is understandable, but coming from someone who has had

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:38.799
<v Speaker 1>to do that and face that that it sucks. But ultimately,

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 1>your family should follow your lead, and if you choose

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:47.839
<v Speaker 1>to love him and choose to stay, then they should

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:49.759
<v Speaker 1>love and support you for that. They don't have to

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:53.000
<v Speaker 1>like him right now. Jane's family they didn't like me,

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. But they all pretty much

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 1>told me, look, we stick with Janna. She's gonna give

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:02.799
<v Speaker 1>you a che We'll give you a chance. But and

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 1>that's it. It took me a long time to earn

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:09.880
<v Speaker 1>their their love and their likeness back, you know what

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean. It took me a couple of years. So

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he was willing to do that, I

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 1>really think is what you need to hang your hat on.

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 1>And you go to your parents and be like, look,

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:22.480
<v Speaker 1>be confident in it, and be like, hey, he's owning

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 1>his mistakes. He was willing to talk to you about it.

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I love him. I'm choosing to stay. I hope you

0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 1>guys support me as my parents to do so. If not,

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:35.319
<v Speaker 1>then I'm sorry you feel that way, but I'm going

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:40.320
<v Speaker 1>to stay with him. Done and a conversation unless unless

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 1>they want to say something supportive, it's the end of

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 1>the conversation. And then you leave. That's it. It's good advice. Ah.

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Thanks thanks for writing that, Courtney. UM, hope everything works

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 1>out for the best. I hope. Yeah, follow up with us.

0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I would love to hear about how it goes, if

0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:00.839
<v Speaker 1>if and when you have that conversation with your parents. Yeah. Uh.

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 1>The next one is from uh Sarah Uh, she says, Um.

0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:08.359
<v Speaker 1>She loves the podcast. First of all, I just want

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:11.359
<v Speaker 1>to throw it in there. Uh. She's a twenty two

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 1>years old starting grad school this month. Um. I've only

0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 1>seen healthy relationships growing up. Both sets of grandparents were

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 1>married over fifty years. My parents are celebrating their thirty

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:24.319
<v Speaker 1>coming up. She loves the idea of love, but she's

0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 1>afraid of experiencing it. She says, I've been flirting with

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 1>my brother's old college roommate off and on for the

0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 1>past few years, and recently we have gone on a

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:35.840
<v Speaker 1>few dates that were a lot of fun, as the

0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:38.319
<v Speaker 1>first time it actually felt like something could come from

0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:41.440
<v Speaker 1>all the flirting. However, after the first few days, he

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 1>got a job that placed him over four d fifty

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 1>miles away. I find myself not trying anymore because I'm

0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 1>afraid to get to attached. Since his job in schooling

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 1>has us far apart for at least two more years.

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 1>He's one of my brother's closest friends. Our families don't know,

0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's hard for me to take a trip out

0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:02.080
<v Speaker 1>just to see him. But she's afraid of getting too

0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 1>close to this guy, right, because there's a lot of

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:08.279
<v Speaker 1>things that are probably pointing towards it. Its demise, you know, right,

0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:13.319
<v Speaker 1>And she's only been been exposed to healthy, loving relationships

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 1>from what she said at the beginning, right, so she

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 1>hasn't really seen the turmoil. But no one is really

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:26.120
<v Speaker 1>naive and understands that love hurts. Uh Sarah is her name, Okay.

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:34.399
<v Speaker 1>From my point of view, and my opinion is, it's

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:39.400
<v Speaker 1>a very tricky situation because you know, brother's best friend

0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:41.919
<v Speaker 1>or or express friend or whatever it is, brother's friend,

0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:49.799
<v Speaker 1>and the distance and you're twenty two years old, so

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:54.480
<v Speaker 1>just I mean, I'm ten years older than you. It's

0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:58.320
<v Speaker 1>not a lot, but you grow a lot between twenty

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:01.799
<v Speaker 1>two and thirty two. For sure, that's probably when you

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:05.800
<v Speaker 1>do your most developing, Like I think mentally is probably

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 1>like between that time frame, and so I would just say,

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:18.280
<v Speaker 1>don't put all your eggs in that basket. But also,

0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:23.160
<v Speaker 1>don't be scared. Don't don't let your fear of love

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:26.279
<v Speaker 1>be the thing that stops you. If you really think

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:29.360
<v Speaker 1>that it's something worth pursuing, then you do what you

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:31.239
<v Speaker 1>gotta do and jump through the hoops to make it work.

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Whether that you're telling your families that you guys wanted

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:38.160
<v Speaker 1>to see each other so you can travel for fifty

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:42.799
<v Speaker 1>miles away to go see him, you know, or you

0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 1>just realize that you're twenty two, you're going into grad school.

0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:48.279
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be busy, He's going to be busy with

0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:51.000
<v Speaker 1>work and what he's doing. Just be like, you know what,

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:55.439
<v Speaker 1>I care about him, I like him, but this isn't

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the time to jump into something that's that far away

0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 1>from each other. That's you him. You've had some good

0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:06.680
<v Speaker 1>times with him and nothing will change that. But you know,

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:12.200
<v Speaker 1>there's I wish there's so many times in my early

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:15.759
<v Speaker 1>twenties I wish I would have just made the right decision. No,

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 1>we know is the right decision, just to be like, yeah,

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 1>this probably isn't gonna work out, instead of just sticking

0:49:20.960 --> 0:49:24.719
<v Speaker 1>with it for because either I didn't want to hurt them,

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:27.000
<v Speaker 1>or I didn't want to get hurt or because it

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:29.360
<v Speaker 1>seemed like the easier thing, but it just makes it

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 1>harder down the road. So if you really have that

0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:36.359
<v Speaker 1>much fear around it, save yourself a little bit of

0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 1>heartache or pain and make it easier in yourself now

0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 1>before you do get too attached, and you know, then

0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:47.000
<v Speaker 1>things really go south. But again, at the same time,

0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't want her to to not try

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:53.279
<v Speaker 1>because she's scared of love. But I get it. Man,

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it hurt. But hey, you know, maybe maybe you

0:49:56.560 --> 0:49:59.359
<v Speaker 1>say I don't want to say say goodbye because you're

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:01.960
<v Speaker 1>not like kind this guy of your life, but you're not.

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:05.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe a couple of years goes by, he

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:08.279
<v Speaker 1>moves back. You never know. Yeah, and that's where the

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:10.360
<v Speaker 1>whole kind of you know, if it's meant to be,

0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:12.200
<v Speaker 1>it's meant to be. I mean, that's getting a little

0:50:12.320 --> 0:50:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, destiny talking. But but it's true. You're right,

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:20.960
<v Speaker 1>it's you're young, and if if it is, it is,

0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:23.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, and and just I don't know, I just

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:27.080
<v Speaker 1>don't rush in that indecision, you know. But else, if

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:31.400
<v Speaker 1>you we're going back and forth, we could justify both sides, okay,

0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:34.520
<v Speaker 1>but Sarah, just do what you think is right, and

0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:37.600
<v Speaker 1>well you could decide just go and but I will

0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:42.120
<v Speaker 1>say this though, before we move on, is my one

0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:46.000
<v Speaker 1>of my college roommates, him and his now wife who's pregnant.

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:52.640
<v Speaker 1>They spent the first oh man three years after college

0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:57.959
<v Speaker 1>community between Baltimore and New York actually Baltimore, Connecticut, really

0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:02.680
<v Speaker 1>three years long. To wow, they made it work. You know,

0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:05.960
<v Speaker 1>it was a lot of sacrifice, a lot of travel. Now, granted,

0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:08.480
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of different ways to travel between Baltimore

0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and New York. Train, plane, bus, car, you name it.

0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:16.360
<v Speaker 1>But it's I mean, it's about that four hour you know,

0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:22.720
<v Speaker 1>fours four hours something like that. It's it's it's possible.

0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:25.400
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, it is possible, but it all depends

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 1>on your priority. All right, So we're gonna bring a

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:35.880
<v Speaker 1>guest on. We're gonna bring on Daniel, who is a

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:41.920
<v Speaker 1>fantastic person an even better producer, and he's the producer on,

0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 1>uh this movie that Jan is here filming for a lifetime.

0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:48.879
<v Speaker 1>And you've done how many of one of the movie,

0:51:48.880 --> 0:51:51.520
<v Speaker 1>two of the movies with Janna one of the movie,

0:51:52.440 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 1>And uh, how's it been going so far? For this

0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 1>this go around? It's going pretty good. I think I've

0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:02.480
<v Speaker 1>decided that doing a Christmas movie in August in Louisiana

0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:06.360
<v Speaker 1>is never gonna happen again. So we're talking about this earlier.

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:10.000
<v Speaker 1>So why do you guys do that? Because the last

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 1>one you did was the Mississippi one? Right, right, So

0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:17.160
<v Speaker 1>like why not have done the movie six months ago

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:21.279
<v Speaker 1>in February or something? Yeah, I mean it's I mean,

0:52:21.280 --> 0:52:22.839
<v Speaker 1>it's a good question. I always get that all the time,

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:26.920
<v Speaker 1>and the answer is, um, you know, networks don't really

0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:29.120
<v Speaker 1>know what type of product that they're gonna want the

0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:32.719
<v Speaker 1>following year. So we're making these movies development, developing them

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:35.719
<v Speaker 1>with the network. Right, So they're going to release their

0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:39.279
<v Speaker 1>slate this October, November, December. They're going to kind of

0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:42.360
<v Speaker 1>evaluate the ratings, make a decision, look at budgets, and say, okay,

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:45.600
<v Speaker 1>we did twenty eight this year. Lifetime is doing original

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Christmas movies this year, which is which is insane, right Yeah,

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:53.320
<v Speaker 1>And so um uh, you know I'm lucky enough to

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:56.239
<v Speaker 1>have two of those that did one in May, um

0:52:56.280 --> 0:52:58.920
<v Speaker 1>and then doing this one now, and um, you know

0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:01.359
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna evaluate the ratings, look at budgets, and kind

0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:04.560
<v Speaker 1>of make decisions on what do we want for our slate?

0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:07.160
<v Speaker 1>How many how many slots were we filling? Which movies

0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:09.320
<v Speaker 1>work for us, which one is didn't. So we're gonna

0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:14.120
<v Speaker 1>start developing these movies and pitching them to them around September, October, November.

0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:17.200
<v Speaker 1>And by the time they're making decisions and and putting

0:53:17.200 --> 0:53:21.239
<v Speaker 1>out contracts, you're looking at you know, jan fab March, right,

0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:23.680
<v Speaker 1>And so now we're kind of like getting deep into

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the script and the development process. And because we're working

0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 1>with the network, there's a lot of people that are

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:30.600
<v Speaker 1>involved and putting hands on it and eyes on it.

0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:32.960
<v Speaker 1>So by the time we have a script that's ready

0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:36.680
<v Speaker 1>to shoot, you know, it's it's now April May, and

0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:38.359
<v Speaker 1>if you have to to do like you know, I'm

0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:41.640
<v Speaker 1>lucky enough to have I did one in May, kind

0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:43.840
<v Speaker 1>of wrap it up in June, catch my breath, start

0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:47.800
<v Speaker 1>start prepping another one, and here we are in August. Um.

0:53:47.840 --> 0:53:51.080
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's gonna be a hard pass doing a

0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Christmas movie in August in Louisiana. Ever again, I think

0:53:54.000 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll I'll come up to Nashville and sleep in your

0:53:56.080 --> 0:54:00.239
<v Speaker 1>guest room. Um. But yeah, it's it's it's going well,

0:54:00.280 --> 0:54:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean really the main two elements that we're fighting

0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:06.440
<v Speaker 1>um right now is during the summer. You know, you

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:09.560
<v Speaker 1>get that midday kind of pop up storm that happens

0:54:09.920 --> 0:54:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and it's really unpredictable, and then just the heat. I

0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:16.080
<v Speaker 1>mean it's just so brutal. Uh. You know. Fortunately, working

0:54:16.120 --> 0:54:19.600
<v Speaker 1>with three of the six actors on this movie, um,

0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I worked with with them doing Christmas movies in the

0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:23.920
<v Speaker 1>middle of summer, so they knew what they were getting into,

0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 1>including Janna, so um uh and she's uh, you know,

0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:30.359
<v Speaker 1>I must say I was. I was mentioning to her

0:54:30.480 --> 0:54:32.680
<v Speaker 1>just working with her two years ago and Christmas in

0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Mississippi and working with her now. It's just it's just

0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 1>exciting to work with her again. And you know, it

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:40.880
<v Speaker 1>just I haven't seen her since then, and and uh

0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:42.960
<v Speaker 1>just kind of seeing where she is now, it's like

0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:46.040
<v Speaker 1>so just so impressive. It's like so much growth, and

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:48.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, seeing her with you know, being a mom

0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:51.160
<v Speaker 1>too kids. It's just it's so cool to see her

0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:54.279
<v Speaker 1>like do the double duty thing. Um. But yeah, we're

0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:56.600
<v Speaker 1>having a good time and and uh, I'm looking forward

0:54:56.640 --> 0:54:58.520
<v Speaker 1>to things settling down in week two so I can

0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:01.879
<v Speaker 1>spend a little more time on set. Absolutely what's been

0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:04.239
<v Speaker 1>you know for And even when I when I first

0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:06.719
<v Speaker 1>started going on sets with Jenna, I'm like, what does

0:55:06.719 --> 0:55:10.359
<v Speaker 1>the producer do? Right, So for listeners out there, like

0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:13.640
<v Speaker 1>explain the elevator pitch for a producer on set, like

0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:16.680
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing on a daily basis. So I would

0:55:16.760 --> 0:55:19.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of compare it to a general contractor, right, So

0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you're pretty much, you know, the guy who's in charge

0:55:21.520 --> 0:55:24.600
<v Speaker 1>of hiring all the subs and managing your budget and

0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:27.600
<v Speaker 1>making sure that the jobs getting done at the quality

0:55:27.640 --> 0:55:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and at the price point that you want for your

0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:32.719
<v Speaker 1>ultimate you know buyer. So I I typically compare it

0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:35.080
<v Speaker 1>to to building a house. And so that's really my

0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:38.719
<v Speaker 1>responsibility is I try to get the best subs possible.

0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:42.240
<v Speaker 1>So you know, um, not too simplify it in that way,

0:55:42.280 --> 0:55:46.160
<v Speaker 1>but my director, my DP, my production designer DP is

0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:49.640
<v Speaker 1>is director of photography who's in charge of all the lighting. Um.

0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:51.759
<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's interesting about making movies and it's

0:55:51.800 --> 0:55:55.240
<v Speaker 1>also very complex is that you know, really every single

0:55:55.320 --> 0:55:59.399
<v Speaker 1>craft out there we utilize in the film industry. So

0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:02.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's it's so great to like talk

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:04.359
<v Speaker 1>to people in all the different walks of life because

0:56:04.360 --> 0:56:07.440
<v Speaker 1>when you're making a movie, it's really when everybody comes together,

0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:12.320
<v Speaker 1>from a chef to an account to a hair hairstylist,

0:56:12.360 --> 0:56:15.600
<v Speaker 1>to an actor, to a storyteller to somebody who can,

0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, rig up lights and run cable and drive trucks.

0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>You get all these personalities together and then you throw

0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:27.000
<v Speaker 1>in all these different specific unions that govern the different

0:56:27.000 --> 0:56:30.640
<v Speaker 1>personalities and you have to just keep the ship moving

0:56:31.280 --> 0:56:34.360
<v Speaker 1>in the right direction. And and it's just it's a challenge.

0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:37.240
<v Speaker 1>So it's as a producer, you're really just responsible for

0:56:37.719 --> 0:56:39.799
<v Speaker 1>hiring the right people, doing what you can to stay

0:56:39.800 --> 0:56:42.359
<v Speaker 1>out of the way, let them do their thing. And

0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:44.759
<v Speaker 1>when and when the you know the the ship is

0:56:44.800 --> 0:56:46.760
<v Speaker 1>going down the wrong path, you just try to straighten

0:56:46.840 --> 0:56:49.000
<v Speaker 1>it up a little bit. And so that's that's really

0:56:49.040 --> 0:56:51.279
<v Speaker 1>my job. So at the end of the day, you know,

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:53.040
<v Speaker 1>my crew makes me look good. The actress made me

0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:56.080
<v Speaker 1>look good, and and I'm appreciative of that because you know,

0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the first thing about doing what they're doing.

0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I just know how to find good people. Do you

0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:02.640
<v Speaker 1>feel like you're put your spend a lot of days

0:57:02.680 --> 0:57:07.520
<v Speaker 1>that kind of putting out fires, absolutely, taking care of problems,

0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:11.239
<v Speaker 1>problem solving. Jana was Janna was giving me the other

0:57:11.320 --> 0:57:17.320
<v Speaker 1>day about you. Uh no, she was gonna be like,

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:20.160
<v Speaker 1>you're never on set, never see you, what are you doing.

0:57:20.200 --> 0:57:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, if I'm on set, then ultimately that means

0:57:23.720 --> 0:57:26.120
<v Speaker 1>that things are things are gonna get a little dicey

0:57:26.200 --> 0:57:28.120
<v Speaker 1>as we move from this location to the next. I'm

0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:31.040
<v Speaker 1>always just one step ahead and making sure that you know,

0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:34.360
<v Speaker 1>once we landed a new location or dealing with other elements,

0:57:34.360 --> 0:57:37.280
<v Speaker 1>that we're gonna be prepared. And um, you know, I

0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:38.800
<v Speaker 1>do like sitting on set, but at the end of

0:57:38.840 --> 0:57:41.320
<v Speaker 1>the day, you know, unfortunately I have to kind of

0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:43.320
<v Speaker 1>get out in front. Well, and it's kind of boring

0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:46.560
<v Speaker 1>sitting on set after a while totally. Well, look, the

0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:51.040
<v Speaker 1>thing is is because I'm also financially responsible for, you know,

0:57:51.080 --> 0:57:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the final cost of the movie at the end of

0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:56.800
<v Speaker 1>the day. Um, and uh, when I'm on set, like

0:57:56.840 --> 0:57:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm just terrified, like every everything that I'm saying, it's

0:57:59.880 --> 0:58:03.360
<v Speaker 1>like if the if the camera is is like about

0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:06.560
<v Speaker 1>to tilt over, my heart dropping, like like you know,

0:58:06.600 --> 0:58:09.040
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just ignorance, is bliss? You just rather

0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:10.960
<v Speaker 1>not see or rather not well this morning, you know

0:58:11.000 --> 0:58:13.080
<v Speaker 1>this morning, we're trying to shoot you know, the introduction

0:58:13.120 --> 0:58:16.360
<v Speaker 1>between uh, you know, Janna and her male co star,

0:58:16.640 --> 0:58:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Percy DAGs and um, it's the first time they meet

0:58:19.400 --> 0:58:21.640
<v Speaker 1>in the movie, and we're supposed to have this dog

0:58:21.760 --> 0:58:24.240
<v Speaker 1>sort of like run up to Janna wearing reindeer ears

0:58:24.320 --> 0:58:27.600
<v Speaker 1>and and the dog just was not interested. And so

0:58:27.800 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, we we you know, we don't shoot these

0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:34.200
<v Speaker 1>movies in sequential order, and so we've already established and

0:58:34.280 --> 0:58:36.720
<v Speaker 1>what we shot before we got here today. We've already

0:58:36.760 --> 0:58:40.440
<v Speaker 1>talked about the dog. We've already kind of interwoven him

0:58:40.440 --> 0:58:43.360
<v Speaker 1>into the story. So had we shot this scene first,

0:58:43.440 --> 0:58:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I would have said, Okay, we're gonna rewrite the script,

0:58:46.320 --> 0:58:47.919
<v Speaker 1>get the dog out of the way. We're just gonna

0:58:48.000 --> 0:58:51.240
<v Speaker 1>keep moving. But instead, we really tried to figure out

0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:54.840
<v Speaker 1>how do we make this dog do what it needs

0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:57.840
<v Speaker 1>to do? And so we had peanut butter and you know,

0:58:59.360 --> 0:59:02.200
<v Speaker 1>legs a little movie magic, you know, once you see

0:59:02.240 --> 0:59:05.400
<v Speaker 1>it all all cut together, but it's it's it's always

0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:09.840
<v Speaker 1>just really funny interesting things. Why is it that movies

0:59:09.960 --> 0:59:14.040
<v Speaker 1>are filmed in not insequential order? Like, what is the

0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:16.840
<v Speaker 1>theory behind that? Well, I mean the main reason is

0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:20.600
<v Speaker 1>is um, first of all your locations, right, so you

0:59:20.600 --> 0:59:23.040
<v Speaker 1>know we might uh, as an example, you know, we

0:59:23.080 --> 0:59:26.120
<v Speaker 1>started this movie. The first four days we shot in

0:59:26.320 --> 0:59:29.320
<v Speaker 1>all of the house, so you know, we might open

0:59:29.400 --> 0:59:31.800
<v Speaker 1>up the movie in the house, and twenty minutes later

0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:34.160
<v Speaker 1>we might have a scene in the house, and you know,

0:59:34.320 --> 0:59:36.240
<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes later another scene in the house. So if

0:59:36.280 --> 0:59:38.680
<v Speaker 1>if you were to shoot an insequential order, you'd have

0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:43.160
<v Speaker 1>to be sort of in a one location type scenario. Um. Also,

0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:46.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, you have what's called turnaround at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. Um, and everybody's turnaround is different depending

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<v Speaker 1>on what their actors or you know, laborers, etcetera. But UM,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if we're doing a night shoot and we're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, called times at seven pm and we're shoot

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<v Speaker 1>until the sun comes up, well, you know you can't

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<v Speaker 1>the next day then shoot daytime stuff because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to give people enough time to shut their

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<v Speaker 1>eyes a little bit. And um, you know. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's really the main reason why. You know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things. I'm a big movie go or,

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<v Speaker 1>like I love movies, Eastern loves movies, and it's I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fascinated by the behind behind the scenes stuff, even though

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there for a while you're like, all right, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go home. But it's it's almost like I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like a kid. Sometimes I'd rather not know because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm such a believer on what I see on screen.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, I don't want to know that you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>shoot everything in a row. I don't want to know

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<v Speaker 1>that this isn't in order, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, as a movie goer, was that something like

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<v Speaker 1>for you you just always had that mind on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the back end, or you know, of no, this

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<v Speaker 1>is how it works. Is I'm gonna do my job

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<v Speaker 1>and you're just all business, or was any part of

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<v Speaker 1>you like, oh, this is just not what I imagined. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I never uh, I never knew

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna be in the film industry, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just, um, I've always just been good with people,

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<v Speaker 1>um and sort of had these leadership skills that I

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<v Speaker 1>knew it would serve me well at some point um

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<v Speaker 1>in life. And you know, I um, I graduated college

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<v Speaker 1>uh and started working at a restaurant waiting tables, and

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<v Speaker 1>then ended up working at Chase Bank for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years and just so happened that um, uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy walked into the bank. I was working at UM

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<v Speaker 1>around two thousand four in Louisiana, and and there's tax

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<v Speaker 1>incentives that had just passed where uh it started drawing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people in and here I was, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh I was. I was this guy's banker. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was a film producer who had just moved here from

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<v Speaker 1>l A And uh so I was his banker for

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<v Speaker 1>about a year and we built a relationship, and um

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<v Speaker 1>he decided to expand his operation and he said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I need somebody that's good with numbers, that understands how

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<v Speaker 1>to take a contract and monetize that is it's something

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<v Speaker 1>you're interested. And I'm this twenty three year old kid.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like absolutely And fortunately, you know, I got out

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<v Speaker 1>of the banking business right you know, kind of at

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<v Speaker 1>the right time. Um, but was sort of thrown to

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<v Speaker 1>the holes, you know, UM kind of learned about watching

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<v Speaker 1>what not to do. You know, my first my first

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<v Speaker 1>kind of film job, it was just uh, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just it was a bit of a mess

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years. And so you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of figured out along the way and and um,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of transition from there and started working with Kimbad

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<v Speaker 1>Tissue I've I've worked with for a long time and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you know, I'm I'm sort of preparing to

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<v Speaker 1>segue out onto my own but um, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a it's been a long journey and every movie

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<v Speaker 1>I sort of learned something new and I am always

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<v Speaker 1>fascinated about, um, you know, how things happen and really

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<v Speaker 1>goes on behind the scenes for sure. Two questions before

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<v Speaker 1>we wrap up. The first thing is, I know you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of touched on it with like, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>camera falling over whatever. What is your biggest fear? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the atomic bomb for a producer to happen on

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<v Speaker 1>a movie set? Well, we went through it two years

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<v Speaker 1>ago Christmas in Mississippi. Remember when when um so we

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<v Speaker 1>had a hurricane that was coming. We had three days

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<v Speaker 1>we literally shot if anybody out there saw Christmas in

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<v Speaker 1>Mississippi with Janet Cramer and West Brown. Um we shot

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<v Speaker 1>our first twelve days and the final three days of

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<v Speaker 1>shooting was all the light show stuff. So when you

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<v Speaker 1>watch um all the stuff the finale them setting up

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<v Speaker 1>the light show. We had shot everything but that hurricanes

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<v Speaker 1>forming in the Gulf. I had to call Force massure.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to put every one of my actors on

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<v Speaker 1>the airplane immediately to get them to safety. I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there with twelve of my fifteen days shot. The entire

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<v Speaker 1>finale of the movie is not anywhere on film and

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<v Speaker 1>all that. This is big stuff, by the way, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a two point The Harbor Light Show in Gulfport,

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<v Speaker 1>Mississippi is a two point two million dollar light show

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<v Speaker 1>that Island View puts on. And you know, they the

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<v Speaker 1>town put this up in the middle of the summer

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<v Speaker 1>for us. So here they are. They're now exposed because

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<v Speaker 1>the hurricanes coming. So they're panicking and I'm thinking if

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<v Speaker 1>that set gets destroyed, I'm sitting here with a beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>movie with no like literally no light show. So I

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<v Speaker 1>and the and the problem is is thirteen actors in

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes, and nine of them we're from from the

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<v Speaker 1>West coast. So I had to find this is in August, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to find three days that all thirteen people

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<v Speaker 1>were mutually available to bring them back. And on top

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<v Speaker 1>of that, I had to do it and finish it

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<v Speaker 1>and deliver it for Christmas. And so we I found

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<v Speaker 1>Labor Day week as three days. Jana's mom had gotten

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<v Speaker 1>married up in Michigan, right, who is it her? At

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<v Speaker 1>that point it was her cousin. Okay, so she went

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<v Speaker 1>up to Michigan. She and so we were shooting the

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<v Speaker 1>next morning. All my other actors are there except the

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<v Speaker 1>star of the movie. She she calls me. She's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not a joke. I'm at the airport. My

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<v Speaker 1>flight's delayed like four hours. We are. Call time is

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<v Speaker 1>at six am, so I'm like literally pressing refresh on

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<v Speaker 1>my phone. I had to get a portable charger just

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<v Speaker 1>to keep pressing refresh. She gets on an airplane finally,

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<v Speaker 1>at like eleven o'clock. Emily Wilson and Greg Wilson. Emily

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<v Speaker 1>is the director of that movie and this one. They

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<v Speaker 1>drove to New Orleans, picked her up, and drove her

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<v Speaker 1>back to Gulfport. I was waiting in the parking lot

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<v Speaker 1>for her to thirty in the morning. We threw in

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<v Speaker 1>her hotel room. Three hours later, knock on the door,

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<v Speaker 1>throw her in the trailer, and we shot those three days,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she rapped. I had to put her on

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<v Speaker 1>a plane because she had a project in l A

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<v Speaker 1>So the atomic bomb is that when you have to sit,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to stop shooting in the middle of production

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<v Speaker 1>and send people away and bring them back and if

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<v Speaker 1>you can, good luck. Yeah, and I biasedly, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>i'm biasedly too. You probably had one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>people to have to do that with it in Channa,

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<v Speaker 1>because she's a workhorse and she'll just get she'll just

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<v Speaker 1>get it done to like whatever it takes. She'll just

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<v Speaker 1>be like, all right, let's do it. And she is

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<v Speaker 1>a she is a pro at everything she does. She'll

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<v Speaker 1>she'll have her moments of bit and complaining, but we

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<v Speaker 1>all do right, anyone would in that situation, but she

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<v Speaker 1>because she shows up and and she she takes care

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<v Speaker 1>of business. All right. That was the net. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the atomic bomb. Now the last thing that will wrap

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<v Speaker 1>up with is what is that moment where you just

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<v Speaker 1>are like something happens on the movie. Maybe it's when

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<v Speaker 1>things are done, You're like, man, I love my job,

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<v Speaker 1>Like being a producer is awesome because this happened. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's it. It sounds bad, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally when everybody leaves and goes home is the best

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<v Speaker 1>moment for me because it's like, you know, I've done

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<v Speaker 1>my job. People came together, we made up, we made

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<v Speaker 1>a movie, and you know, we always hope it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be great. But the thing is when you see

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<v Speaker 1>them out of sacrifice that people put into these movies.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you're talking about crews working, you know, fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen sixteen hour days, you know, away from their families,

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<v Speaker 1>away from their kids, and you know, you put your

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<v Speaker 1>life on hold because you're so exhausted. There's literally no

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<v Speaker 1>way to give any ounce of you to anyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's such a relief from me when I

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<v Speaker 1>know that there's you know, you could have some atomic

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<v Speaker 1>bombs and post for sure, but now in the digital age,

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit, you know, less tricky because you're

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<v Speaker 1>not dealing with film um on a lot of movies.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's always great when we say that's a rap.

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<v Speaker 1>I go around and just see everybody and thank them,

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<v Speaker 1>and when they're when they're gone and all the equipment

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<v Speaker 1>is turned in, and you know, it's just the best

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<v Speaker 1>feeling in the world. But really the greatest feeling is

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<v Speaker 1>when you when you press play on that cut for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time and you see the see the finished product.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just it's the best feeling in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you had moments because I've always wondered this for

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<v Speaker 1>someone who works in the business when because there's some

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<v Speaker 1>movies out there they're just like terrible, right that you

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<v Speaker 1>watched the maybe like god, this sucks it. Like have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever worked on a film that you're a part

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<v Speaker 1>of and when you see that first cut like posted

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<v Speaker 1>and everything, You're just like, this isn't that good? Every

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<v Speaker 1>one of them, honestly, every one of them. And part

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<v Speaker 1>of it's just because I'm so I'm so critical and

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<v Speaker 1>I really want, I really want everything to be great,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because these movies are made for like specific customers,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want it's so important for them to be

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<v Speaker 1>happy because if they're happy, it means they're ordering more.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm always just so every single one of them, like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, that didn't really work or and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you build it up to be like man,

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<v Speaker 1>like in your head, you just have these expectations and

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<v Speaker 1>then probably nothing really meets matches your excitement going into yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not going back to the house. And I'll analogy, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like your builder calling. You're saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>your your house is done. We still have a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of tweaks, but come on out and you get out

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<v Speaker 1>there and it's like the slab and the frame and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, well, how am I supposed to live in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like it's not really the finished product,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but it's always good to kind of see

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<v Speaker 1>it evolved. Typically by the third cut, you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's looking good, and then you lay the music

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<v Speaker 1>in and then you do the sound mix, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, Um, a friend of mine's on set tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>He just him and his family came in to be

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<v Speaker 1>an extra, and he he knows nothing about the business.

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<v Speaker 1>He's never been on a movie set, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>how in the world do y'all pull this off? Like

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<v Speaker 1>we watch movies and you have no idea. It's insane

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<v Speaker 1>of making a movie. Has nothing to do with a

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<v Speaker 1>camera and an actor. It's like literally nothing. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much that goes into it. I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a guy right now who's like canvassing the streets

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<v Speaker 1>looking for, you know, places that we can secure to

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<v Speaker 1>park a hundred extras that are going to be coming

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<v Speaker 1>into this small town. It's like it's a tiny area,

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<v Speaker 1>So where do you park a hundred people? And then

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<v Speaker 1>how do you get those hundred people from the parking

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<v Speaker 1>lot to the area that they're going to be checking

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<v Speaker 1>in and changing? And then where are you feeding them?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like who thinks about that? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like none of us think about that, But that's like

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<v Speaker 1>your job to think about that, which I will kudos

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<v Speaker 1>to you, not only you know, I've got to know

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<v Speaker 1>each other the last couple of years. You're a fantastic person, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely mean that. And the fact that you're able to

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<v Speaker 1>take because you guys get different cruise no matter where

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<v Speaker 1>you're shooting, right, It's not like you're bringing the same

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<v Speaker 1>white people saying this the same that a few people

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<v Speaker 1>you are, Yeah, a few people. You still have new

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<v Speaker 1>cruise on certain things that you're working with. So the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you're able to take those new people, those

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<v Speaker 1>new personalities, mold them with the ones that you have

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<v Speaker 1>around you, and turn out a successful project is fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>and very I mean, I don't know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people that could do that. So kudos to you and

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<v Speaker 1>what you do, man, I appreciate it. I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 1>come on and chat with you guys, and it's been fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. We're right in the middle of our final,

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<v Speaker 1>uh final shoot day of week one, so um you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm uh, well, congratulations, it's gonna be Was it Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>on the River? No? No, No, A little surprised here.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, Christmas in Mississippi was Jana's last movie, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're onto something here. This one's Christmas in Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not stopping fifty states, right, Let's do it. Yeah, So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll do Christmas in in Tennessee next year.

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<v Speaker 1>How Christmas in Hawaii? All right, we'll start writing the script.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll stay all three weeks for that one, and this

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<v Speaker 1>will be out the holiday season on Lifetime. Yes, it will,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. The other one I shot is called Christmas Wish.

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Wish starring a few of Jana's former stars at

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<v Speaker 1>One Tree Hill. Who's in that one? Hillary Burton, Tyler,

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<v Speaker 1>Hilton Lee Norris, Barbara Allen Woods, all sorts of. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of One Tree Hitlers that listen to

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast naturally, so Antoine Tanner, Colin Ficis, It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a star studded cast. So um that one

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<v Speaker 1>and this one here, did you guys announce who's in

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<v Speaker 1>this this film? I have not announced it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>said Janna Kramer. Percy DAGs the third from Veronica Marsh.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Moira Kelly, who's also a one tree holl Alone.

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<v Speaker 1>She was the star of the Cut Edge Setting It,

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<v Speaker 1>which freaked Jan out. Janna was watched that movie a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand times. Brian McNamara from Army Wives and he was

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<v Speaker 1>nominated for Golden Globe and Billionaire Boys Club way back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day, and then Very Bostwick Rocky Horror Picture Show.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the movie. But I'm excited to meet him.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in the movie with Janna and I two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. He played meet him. No, no, no, he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He came for a few days. And then d Wallace, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the mom from ET and she was on this

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<v Speaker 1>show last week on the podcast. Yeah, that's very cool,

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<v Speaker 1>so UM had her on awesome. Yeah, she's been great. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you again, Daniel, appreciate your time. We're gonna wrap

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<v Speaker 1>it up here from Yeah from New Iberia, Louisiana. Sign

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<v Speaker 1>it off, Sign it off Later