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Speaker 1: Fine Down with Jane Kramer and Michael Coffin, and I'm

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Speaker 1: from radio back to you from New Iberia where New Iberia, Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: We are in New Iberia Easton East Bowne is here

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Speaker 1: and Mike's here. Now I am so excited. Eastern What

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Speaker 1: did you do today? I've never been to the South

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Speaker 1: to do as much like Southern stuff as I can

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Speaker 1: while I'm here. So I went to waffle House for

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Speaker 1: the first time you have I had I had eggs,

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Speaker 1: um a waffle bacon, and I had hash browns, had

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Speaker 1: the runs after? How good was the waffle Though? I

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Speaker 1: love waffle House? It was really good. I really, I

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Speaker 1: breakfast is like five dollars. Okay, what did you do

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Speaker 1: after a waffle House? After waffle house. I went to

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Speaker 1: Avery Island, Oh, the Tabasca. I went to the Tabaska.

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Speaker 1: I brought you some to Tabasco jelly beans for you guys,

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Speaker 1: and Tabasco chocolate over there. I went on the Tabasco tour.

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Speaker 1: It was spicy and fun. It was cool. I learned

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Speaker 1: a lot about peppers, and uh, it smells like Tabasco

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Speaker 1: So I drove around there and I saw an alligator

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Speaker 1: I'm glad I was alone because I freaked out. So

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Speaker 1: you really didn't see alligator? Then I did see it.

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Speaker 1: And then did he say after a while rug? I did? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Raising Canes. It's a it's a chicken chicken spot and

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Speaker 1: they do chicken strips. It's really good. We have them

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Speaker 1: But wow, that sounds like a really Louisiana Southern day.

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Speaker 1: You know, it really was. I felt like I got

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Speaker 1: the full experience. I love that. Um. Just the heads up,

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Speaker 1: I think someone's about to knock on my trailer door. UM, this,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be in and out this episode. I

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Speaker 1: might not come back. I might come back, So Mike

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Speaker 1: and Eastern are gonna take over the rest of this.

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Speaker 1: UM's gotta go work. What's your favorite thing about acting? UM?

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Speaker 1: Like the night shoots? I hate what we're doing right now.

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Speaker 1: I really don't like night Shoots. But what can I

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Speaker 1: just say something really fast? So when we leave, When

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Speaker 1: nerd stuff like the Star Wars and the Avengers because

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Speaker 1: we will lose subscribers audience. I was. I was thinking

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Speaker 1: So between doing music and acting, what are the like,

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Speaker 1: after like six years of not seeing a therapist. Do

425
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 1: anything inspire that or just you're just like I'm having

426
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm having some problems with some close friends of mine

427
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 1: and it's um affecting me more than I would like

428
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 1: it too, And I'm like complaining to my wife about

429
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: it a lot. And she she's had a lot, she's

430
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 1: had a very hard time these last couple of years.

431
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 1: She's had a lot of really bad stuff happened. And

432
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 1: I had this realization, like the last thing she needs

433
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: is me like bitching to about like my like dumb friends.

434
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 1: So I was like, this is something that like it's

435
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: probably a deeper issue I need to work with um

436
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: with someone about but UM. When I first started seeing her,

437
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 1: I was in this like really bad relationship that was

438
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 1: like really destroying my life. Like and uh, I think

439
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 1: a lot of times about if I was still with

440
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: that person, I'm like, I don't think nothing in my

441
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 1: life would be the same, Like I probably would have

442
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 1: gotten her pregnant at some point. I would have never

443
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 1: moved to Los Angeles. I would never like, you know,

444
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: reconnect with Alice, like like everything in my life would

445
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: be different if it wasn't for that um and you know,

446
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: and there's I think we all have those types of

447
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: like I don't call it a turning point, but we

448
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: all have those moments where like, God, if I had

449
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: done this thing different, yeah, yeah, my life would be

450
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: so much worse than it is now. And you just

451
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: have to like somethings like reflect on those decisions and

452
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, I know what I'm doing right, but yeah,

453
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: how do you have you found that beneficial senior therapist? Again?

454
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: I forgot. I feel like an idiot for not going

455
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 1: for so long, because I really think even if you

456
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 1: don't have any I really I'm on those people where

457
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 1: I'm like, even if you don't have anything like going on,

458
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: like uh, you're not struggling with anything that you know of,

459
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 1: I really think everyone can benefit from It's yeah, it's funny.

460
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 1: It's always it's always those Uh. That's like Jenny and

461
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: I have said this before, probably on here, but it's

462
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: probably when we first started where we'd go into those

463
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: couple therapy sessions and we kind of stay to each

464
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 1: other like we don't really should we cancel because we

465
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: don't really have anything. And those are the days that

466
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: we go in and just you know, can of worms

467
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: is open and we're like, what just happened? You know,

468
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 1: because you said you feel like you're you're in this

469
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: like dormant state that you have nothing going on, nothing

470
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: to talk about. But I got I gotta do is

471
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 1: sit in a room, just start talking. That stuff comes out, man.

472
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: And it's it's been bothering me being back in Nashville,

473
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: not having my therapist from l A on a regular basis.

474
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: You know, We've done some phone sessions, but it's not

475
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: the same as being in person. But I've just been

476
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: in Nashville. There's a lot going on. Jenna and I

477
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: have a lot of projects we're working on. You know,

478
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 1: we've talked about how being back in Nashville is a

479
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 1: little bit harder on a relationship. Right now, we're still

480
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: trying to navigate it um and so I don't have

481
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: that person to talk to to go see and it's

482
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 1: it's really starting to weigh on me because I have

483
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: all these all these like feelings like going on that

484
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: I just honestly, I feel like a lot of them

485
00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 1: have come outsideways and I haven't been able to rest

486
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: them in the best ways to Janna, and you know,

487
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 1: probably because that we're in a rough spot right now

488
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: and it's you know, it sucks, and you know, she's

489
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: been here shooting a movie. I've been at home with

490
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 1: Jolie working on some other projects we've got going on

491
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: and take care of things there. And so it's just

492
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: not having that regular just outlet of just talking things out,

493
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 1: you know, and trying to navigate it yourself. So the

494
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: past two months have really been an eye opener for

495
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: me just being like I really need therapy, you know,

496
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: like I need to find someone on a regular basis

497
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: physically in front of me in Nashville. And at first

498
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 1: I was just too biased towards my therapist in l

499
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,719
Speaker 1: A because I was just like, the biggest thing is

500
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: telling everyone your story, right exactly. You don't especially with

501
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: think Janna and I have a story. It's like, alright, Doc,

502
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: how much time to goat because uh, you know, I

503
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: gotta catch up to speak here. There's a lot of

504
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: loaded information coming your way. Yeah, you know, I I

505
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: have been doing phone My therapis is in my hometown

506
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: in Santa Cruz, California, and I've been doing phone sessions

507
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: and it's it isn't it's it's not the same. And

508
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: and that's a reason why I haven't. I haven't even

509
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: tried to find someone in l A because not only

510
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: did I see her before, but she, um, she saw

511
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: my sister when my parents were getting divorced, so she

512
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: knows like all about my family all but my parents

513
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: and everything. And like it's the idea of getting someone

514
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: else up to speed is so daunting, you know, yeah,

515
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: because then you're gonna spend part of these sessions, some

516
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 1: not even part of a lot of these sessions end

517
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: up being like, well let me tell you about this

518
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: real quick so you can get the context, you know.

519
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 1: But there these people are professionals and they pick up

520
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: on this stuff pretty quick. Um. But yeah, before we

521
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: move forward with some more stuff we gotta talk about,

522
00:25:51,280 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: let's take a break. All right, We're back from our break.

523
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: It's me and East in here. We're sitting in Jana's

524
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 1: trailer in New Iberia, uh, just off the set site

525
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: here filming her movie and uh, she might be popping

526
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: in a little bit later, who knows, hopefully, But so

527
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 1: the men have the control right now. And you guys

528
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: are probably thinking we're gonna be talking about some nonsense.

529
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: But like I just talked about, touched on for a second,

530
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: Janna and I are in a rough spot, probably probably

531
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: the worst consistently that we've been. Yeah, I think it's

532
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: just been a lot of a lot more up and

533
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: down than we have had recently. Now, the good thing,

534
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: the good thing with us is we've come a long way.

535
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: Because if this was a year or two ago, us

536
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: up and down would be questioning the relationship, right. You

537
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: would be like, I'm gonna divorce you know, I'm gonna

538
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: divorce you and you know you're like that game. And

539
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: but now that this is the difference is that we realize, no,

540
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: that's not an option. We're not going to get to

541
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: that level. We're not going to play that game. We're

542
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: gonna work this out, we're gonna figure out what's going on.

543
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep fighting for our family, for each other.

544
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: But it's it's been one of those things I'm sure

545
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: everyone can relate in their relationship. You're just getting a rut,

546
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's just like, what

547
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: and even with all the work that Jan and I've

548
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: had and all the you know, guidance and help and everything,

549
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: it's still right now we're kind of stuck. It's like, wait,

550
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: what do we do to to to you know, get

551
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: the paddles and jump start this, you know, clear and

552
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: jump start us back and just kind of you know,

553
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: kind of get back there dune Alison ever go like

554
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: you guys go through ruts and what has helped you? Guys? Um?

555
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: You know, our our marriage is so new, right, we

556
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: haven't there's times where like, well bicker more than normal,

557
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: but uh we we haven't. Um, we haven't had any

558
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: like real ruts yet. And I do I attribute that

559
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: to like, we just haven't had the time. I'm sure

560
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: that will happen. Did this did this most recent like

561
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: like like what you're feeling right now? Did this kind

562
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: of start before she left to film the movie? Yeah? Yeah,

563
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: yeah it did. And it was just it's just been

564
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: the combination of being back in Nashville working on projects

565
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: that we're working on, and we it's hard. It's hard

566
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: to work together, it really is. We work in two

567
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: completely different styles two completely different ways, and that's just

568
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: how it is. Janna is planned and scheduled and and

569
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: wants to know exactly I'm gonna do this from this time,

570
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: this time, this day, I'm gonna do this, and I'm

571
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: a little bit more laws by fair where I'm like, well,

572
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start working on this, and if it's just

573
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: not working that day, I'm not gonna force it. I'm

574
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: gonna do something else productive, but I'm gonna I always

575
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 1: get it done. But it's like Janna starts to get

576
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: stressed out if it's not on her schedule. She starts

577
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: to lose it, and then you know, thinks I'm not

578
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: working hard or thinks I'm procrastinating, which is like a

579
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: trigger word for me because my parents always used to

580
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: use that word with me, and I hate it. And

581
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'll just be like, just because I'm not

582
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: working the way you do, doesn't mean I'm procrastinating. I

583
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: was like, I wouldn't have gotten to the place I

584
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: did my life with my former career if I was

585
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: a procrastinator, you know what I mean, Like I have

586
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: something to hang my hat on at the end of

587
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: the day, like a little bit of of you know,

588
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: kind of leverage here, I guess, um, but it's but no,

589
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: it's it's it's been since beforehand and um yeah, and

590
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: so we're just trying to navigate. Don't help that she's

591
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: out of town right now. But I'm curious and I'll

592
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: be curious for p well listening to send emails in

593
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: I would just love to get other ideas on what

594
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: people do in their relationships to jump start people that

595
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: are even if they're just boyfriend girlfriend who married for

596
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: multiple years and have kids, Like, what do you guys

597
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: do two when you're in a rut in your relationship?

598
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: What do you do? You know? And the thing is,

599
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: what's hard, especially when you have two stubborn personalities like

600
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: Janna and I, is it takes one person to put

601
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: down their their sword and shield. First, you gotta put

602
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: it down and come in. The problem is is that

603
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: if you do that and you get burned and the

604
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: other person doesn't meet you there, then that wall wants

605
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: to go up even you know, even faster and harder

606
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: and taller and thicker, and then you don't want to

607
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: kind of come up, come out of there. And that's

608
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: kind of been the battle between Jana and I and

609
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: I think that's why it's lingered, just because we've both

610
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: had our moments of trying to lean in and put

611
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: our guard down, and the other person just wasn't ready,

612
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And we weren't willing. We're

613
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: both being stubborn and weren't willing to meet each other

614
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: in that place. And so that while we'll go back

615
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: up and push this further apart, you know, so it's

616
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: I'll just really be curious. I love feedback on what

617
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: other people do. That's a wind down, and I hurt

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Speaker 1: radio dot Com. Wind down and I hurt radio dot

619
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Speaker 1: started preserving your past. All right, we're back with therapy

647
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: session with Mike and Easton. Right now, lay down on

648
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: the couch. Later we're both sitting on the couch, um

649
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: but no, so we're talking about being in the ret

650
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 1: in a relationship. What do people to to jump start

651
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: things and get out of that, you know? And for me,

652
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: what I've what I found that has helped me at

653
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: least be the one to lower my shield or my

654
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: wall is I'll usually do some reading, some like meditational stuff,

655
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: some reading and you know, all those kind of things

656
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: and proverbs about you know, something only has has as

657
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: much power on you as you give it, like that

658
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Right, if you don't give something power,

659
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: then it won't affect you. And so I want to

660
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: I want to be that way more in my life.

661
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: I want to live like that and be just a

662
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: calm person. And in so many aspects of my life

663
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: I am so many and now was a that was

664
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: a one of my biggest traits in former careers, whether

665
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 1: football or Shales or whatever. I was calm, cool, collected.

666
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, when it comes to personal relationships, especially

667
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: romantic relationships, I am volatile. Interesting. It's I don't know

668
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 1: if it's because it's more personal and I take things

669
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: more personal because it's a relationship, but it's just I'm

670
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: just way more you know, up and down. When uh,

671
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: if Janet comes to you with a like she's upset

672
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: with something, do you find like do you find yourself

673
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to say losing control, but like do

674
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 1: you react like aggressively or defensively? Like because that because

675
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: I too am a calm person. I mean, you know me,

676
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: but I do I find myself? Like if Alison comes

677
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: to me with something I like, she'll say like easter,

678
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 1: imply is lower your voice and like I don't start

679
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: like screaming, but I do get like more animated and yeah,

680
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: and that's that's my thing. To Janna. Janna be like,

681
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: WHOA calm down, Like, I'm just I'm not angry or yelling.

682
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm just animated. I'm passionate. I love screaming. I am calm,

683
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: like I'm only angry when you say I'm angry. But

684
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: you know it's if she comes to me like that,

685
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: I've always unfortunately a character defect of mine is being defensive.

686
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: It really is, and I admit that I own that.

687
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to work on it um And again, I

688
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 1: think it's just because in relationships, I take everything personal.

689
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: So when when she comes to me and said, it's

690
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: for me, it's all about delivery. And maybe maybe I'm

691
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: overly sensitive in my expectation to how I need something delivered.

692
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: But depending on the situations, sometimes I need like a

693
00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: little affirmation before before or they before she brings the

694
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: problem to me, like, hey, honey, I know you're you've

695
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: been working really hard on this project that we're working on, um,

696
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: but you know I have some fears around it not

697
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: getting done in time, and you know, can we talk

698
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: about this instead of uh so, what are you doing today? Okay,

699
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: oh you're not done with that yet, or you know

700
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: why we're gonna be behind? Like I told you this

701
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: was gonna happen if you didn't procrastinate, like this wouldn't happen,

702
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So there's there's just ways

703
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: to to to deliver things and both of us can

704
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: be better at that. UM. I think Janna. Janna is

705
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: a little bit more candid when it comes to out

706
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: than I am, because she's used to handling people like

707
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: that because of the business aspect of the careers that

708
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,479
Speaker 1: she has been in with entertainment music, Like you gotta

709
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: be direct to the point, candid, no bs, like tell

710
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: me what the reality is exactly you know what I mean,

711
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: and get things done. And that's how Janna is. And

712
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: when she said people that work for her or with

713
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 1: her or whatever it may be, Janna likes the answers

714
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: she cuts. She cuts to the bs where you know,

715
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm a salesa guy. You know, I'm gray. I live

716
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: in the grade. Baby, Yeah, A little bit, this a

717
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: little bit of that, you know. So it's a it's

718
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: a little We're just different. We're different, you know, we're

719
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: different people were all different people in different human beings

720
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: and we're trying to make it work. But it's just no,

721
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: it's just it's hard, man. And like learning trying to

722
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: have teach yourself when you when you have a reaction

723
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: that is like you know that you go to like

724
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: like if you said you get defensive. Um, it's so

725
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: hard to It's it's like learning to walk with like

726
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: another left foot, you know. Like it just feels so

727
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: at least for me, like when when when there's a

728
00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: conflict and I'm finding myself kind of acting unhealthy just

729
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: because that's what I go to and like I have

730
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: to like talk myself through and it's so hard because

731
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: it feels so natural at the time, you know, but

732
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: then then you know it turns out to be better

733
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: for everybody. But it's it's just it's so hard, especially

734
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: when you're with someone and the way that they're handling

735
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: the conflict is so much different than the way you do.

736
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: It really is and it's you know, full disclosure, Like

737
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: I've gone to anger management, I've done all that. I

738
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: had a great therapist in Los Angeles that I saw

739
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: for probably a year and a half of the time

740
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: that we were there, and dig amazing work with her,

741
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: and she's definitely helped me tremendously. But it's it's still

742
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,959
Speaker 1: a lot of those things that I deal with where

743
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: it is just I'm just still trying to change those

744
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: ways of how I receive, how I take information. And

745
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: it sounds so simple just to just for someone to

746
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: say something and for you to not to take it

747
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: personally and just be like, Okay, I'm sorry that you

748
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: feel the way that you do, and just being able

749
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: to live in your reality because my thing is where

750
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: it comes from is even if I know my truth

751
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: is the truth, right, regardless of what Jan or anybody

752
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: else thinks, right, I know what the truth is. I

753
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: know that I'm working hard on this, or I know

754
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: that I did this, or whatever it may be. I

755
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: hate that, even though I know it's the truth. If

756
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: Janna thinks I'm not a hard worker, or somebody else

757
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: thinks I'm a bad person or whatever it is, that's

758
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: where my defensiveness comes up. I'm like, it drives me

759
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: nuts to think that someone has an opinion of me

760
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: that's not what I wanted to be, especially when it

761
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: comes to certain things, not everything. There's something I don't

762
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: care if you think that. I mean, I really don't care.

763
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: I know that's on the truth. There's certain things like

764
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: being a respectful person, being a hard worker, um being

765
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 1: you know nowadays, definitely being someone who's honest and lives

766
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: within tech or be and stuff like that. Someone challenges

767
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 1: those kind of things that have really, you know, changed

768
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: gears in my life to to really be those that

769
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: kind of person. If that gets challenged, that's what I take.

770
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: Just personally. I'm just like, no, you don't understand, like

771
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: I am a good person. You know. It's just like

772
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: maybe and maybe it's because you know I was before

773
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: in a lot of those aspects, especially in relationships, and

774
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: maybe that's why. Because I'm I'm I'm trying so hard

775
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: to be a much better person than was before. It's like,

776
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: why wouldn't I be take that personal? I don't have

777
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: the track record to be confident in my truth. Really honestly,

778
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: I can't be like, I don't care what you think

779
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: about me. I'm a great person. I've been a great,

780
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: spousing boyfriend my entire life. But it's like, no, you haven't,

781
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: but now I am. But why do I why do

782
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 1: I have to defend that? And I think I really

783
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: do think it's a it's a male thing. Yeah, yeah,

784
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:04,479
Speaker 1: that's a distinctly male thing. Um. Uh, but I totally

785
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: understand it. It's so hard to let your like you

786
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: were saying though, Like saying that about a situation is

787
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: so much easier to say than when you're in it,

788
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: and you know, uh and trying to like walk yourself

789
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: through a different way. And God is just like did

790
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: you did you ever go see like a therapist before? Um?

791
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: Like the sex action stuff and everything? Uh? Yes and

792
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: no yes, because Jan and I went to see her

793
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: couples or her individual therapist as our couple's therapist when

794
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: I first move to Nashville. Um, but it wasn't really

795
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: beneficial because I'll lyne you know what I mean. So

796
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: it was like going to therapy and lying because I

797
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: wasn't being a faithful or on his part. So it

798
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: didn't do anything because I was just full of shit.

799
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: So no, not really, not until after did everything I learned,

800
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: like how to have healthy and therapy and how it

801
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: can be beneficial. Do you have any emails? We do have?

802
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: Um enough about our problem? All right, here we go.

803
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: This one is from Courtney. Alright, Courtney, She says, uh, Hi,

804
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: Janna and Mike and Easton. My boyfriend cheated on me

805
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: at a bachelor party a few months ago. He was

806
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: completely remorseful and embarrassed. The situation has been traumatic for

807
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: both of us. He knew he messed up big time.

808
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: After many, many talks about what happened and how we

809
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: can move forward to come out stronger, I've decided to

810
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: stay and make it work. The only thing that seems

811
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: to be weighing me down is what my family and

812
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 1: friends think. They're all aware of what happened. My boyfriend

813
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: wrote my parents a letter, and I keep having ambiguous

814
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: conversations with them. I want their approval, of course, but

815
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: how do you recommend talk to them about this? How

816
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: do you recommend justifying why I decided to stay? Great

817
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: great email, Courtney. Um. First of all, great decision to stay,

818
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: especially because of his actions, the fact that he's been remorseful,

819
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: you know, empathetic, understanding of her feelings, it seems like,

820
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: and is willing to talk about it. Isn't defending and saying,

821
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: you know anything as a bachelor party like what you

822
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: know whatever. He's not excusing or rationalizing or justifying any

823
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: of the behavior. And the fact, the biggest thing right

824
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: here the fact that he wrote your parents a letter

825
00:43:55,320 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: and was willing to address that and speak to them.

826
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: That speaks volumes of I think his character. Yes, he

827
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: cheated on you, so it still sucks, but the fact

828
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: that he's willing to do that, because I know plenty

829
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: of guys who still continuously want to sweep it under

830
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: the rug and don't want to address it or haven't

831
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: addressed it with any of their spouses, families, or friends

832
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: or anything, because a lot of them don't know anything.

833
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 1: NASA is coming from the addiction side because of the anonymity,

834
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: which is understandable, but coming from someone who has had

835
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: to do that and face that that it sucks. But ultimately,

836
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: your family should follow your lead, and if you choose

837
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: to love him and choose to stay, then they should

838
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: love and support you for that. They don't have to

839
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: like him right now. Jane's family they didn't like me,

840
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But they all pretty much

841
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: told me, look, we stick with Janna. She's gonna give

842
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: you a che We'll give you a chance. But and

843
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: that's it. It took me a long time to earn

844
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: their their love and their likeness back, you know what

845
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: I mean. It took me a couple of years. So

846
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: the fact that he was willing to do that, I

847
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: really think is what you need to hang your hat on.

848
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: And you go to your parents and be like, look,

849
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: be confident in it, and be like, hey, he's owning

850
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: his mistakes. He was willing to talk to you about it.

851
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: I love him. I'm choosing to stay. I hope you

852
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: guys support me as my parents to do so. If not,

853
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: then I'm sorry you feel that way, but I'm going

854
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: to stay with him. Done and a conversation unless unless

855
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: they want to say something supportive, it's the end of

856
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: the conversation. And then you leave. That's it. It's good advice. Ah.

857
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: Thanks thanks for writing that, Courtney. UM, hope everything works

858
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: out for the best. I hope. Yeah, follow up with us.

859
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: I would love to hear about how it goes, if

860
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: if and when you have that conversation with your parents. Yeah. Uh.

861
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: The next one is from uh Sarah Uh, she says, Um.

862
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: She loves the podcast. First of all, I just want

863
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: to throw it in there. Uh. She's a twenty two

864
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: years old starting grad school this month. Um. I've only

865
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: seen healthy relationships growing up. Both sets of grandparents were

866
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: married over fifty years. My parents are celebrating their thirty

867
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: coming up. She loves the idea of love, but she's

868
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: afraid of experiencing it. She says, I've been flirting with

869
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: my brother's old college roommate off and on for the

870
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: past few years, and recently we have gone on a

871
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: few dates that were a lot of fun, as the

872
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: first time it actually felt like something could come from

873
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: all the flirting. However, after the first few days, he

874
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: got a job that placed him over four d fifty

875
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: miles away. I find myself not trying anymore because I'm

876
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: afraid to get to attached. Since his job in schooling

877
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: has us far apart for at least two more years.

878
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: He's one of my brother's closest friends. Our families don't know,

879
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: and it's hard for me to take a trip out

880
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: just to see him. But she's afraid of getting too

881
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: close to this guy, right, because there's a lot of

882
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: things that are probably pointing towards it. Its demise, you know, right,

883
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: And she's only been been exposed to healthy, loving relationships

884
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: from what she said at the beginning, right, so she

885
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: hasn't really seen the turmoil. But no one is really

886
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: naive and understands that love hurts. Uh Sarah is her name, Okay.

887
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: From my point of view, and my opinion is, it's

888
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: a very tricky situation because you know, brother's best friend

889
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 1: or or express friend or whatever it is, brother's friend,

890
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: and the distance and you're twenty two years old, so

891
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: just I mean, I'm ten years older than you. It's

892
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: not a lot, but you grow a lot between twenty

893
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: two and thirty two. For sure, that's probably when you

894
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: do your most developing, Like I think mentally is probably

895
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: like between that time frame, and so I would just say,

896
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 1: don't put all your eggs in that basket. But also,

897
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: don't be scared. Don't don't let your fear of love

898
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: be the thing that stops you. If you really think

899
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: that it's something worth pursuing, then you do what you

900
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: gotta do and jump through the hoops to make it work.

901
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: Whether that you're telling your families that you guys wanted

902
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: to see each other so you can travel for fifty

903
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: miles away to go see him, you know, or you

904
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: just realize that you're twenty two, you're going into grad school.

905
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: You're gonna be busy, He's going to be busy with

906
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: work and what he's doing. Just be like, you know what,

907
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 1: I care about him, I like him, but this isn't

908
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: the time to jump into something that's that far away

909
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: from each other. That's you him. You've had some good

910
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: times with him and nothing will change that. But you know,

911
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: there's I wish there's so many times in my early

912
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: twenties I wish I would have just made the right decision. No,

913
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: we know is the right decision, just to be like, yeah,

914
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: this probably isn't gonna work out, instead of just sticking

915
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: with it for because either I didn't want to hurt them,

916
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: or I didn't want to get hurt or because it

917
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: seemed like the easier thing, but it just makes it

918
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: harder down the road. So if you really have that

919
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: much fear around it, save yourself a little bit of

920
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: heartache or pain and make it easier in yourself now

921
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: before you do get too attached, and you know, then

922
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: things really go south. But again, at the same time,

923
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want her to to not try

924
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: because she's scared of love. But I get it. Man,

925
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah it hurt. But hey, you know, maybe maybe you

926
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: say I don't want to say say goodbye because you're

927
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: not like kind this guy of your life, but you're not.

928
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: You know, maybe a couple of years goes by, he

929
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: moves back. You never know. Yeah, and that's where the

930
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: whole kind of you know, if it's meant to be,

931
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: it's meant to be. I mean, that's getting a little

932
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, uh, destiny talking. But but it's true. You're right,

933
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: it's you're young, and if if it is, it is,

934
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, and and just I don't know, I just

935
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: don't rush in that indecision, you know. But else, if

936
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: you we're going back and forth, we could justify both sides, okay,

937
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: but Sarah, just do what you think is right, and

938
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: well you could decide just go and but I will

939
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: say this though, before we move on, is my one

940
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: of my college roommates, him and his now wife who's pregnant.

941
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: They spent the first oh man three years after college

942
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,959
Speaker 1: community between Baltimore and New York actually Baltimore, Connecticut, really

943
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: three years long. To wow, they made it work. You know,

944
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: it was a lot of sacrifice, a lot of travel. Now, granted,

945
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different ways to travel between Baltimore

946
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: and New York. Train, plane, bus, car, you name it.

947
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: But it's I mean, it's about that four hour you know,

948
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 1: fours four hours something like that. It's it's it's possible.

949
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: So I mean, it is possible, but it all depends

950
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: on your priority. All right, So we're gonna bring a

951
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: guest on. We're gonna bring on Daniel, who is a

952
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: fantastic person an even better producer, and he's the producer on,

953
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: uh this movie that Jan is here filming for a lifetime.

954
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: And you've done how many of one of the movie,

955
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: two of the movies with Janna one of the movie,

956
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: And uh, how's it been going so far? For this

957
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: this go around? It's going pretty good. I think I've

958
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: decided that doing a Christmas movie in August in Louisiana

959
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: is never gonna happen again. So we're talking about this earlier.

960
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: So why do you guys do that? Because the last

961
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: one you did was the Mississippi one? Right, right, So

962
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: like why not have done the movie six months ago

963
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: in February or something? Yeah, I mean it's I mean,

964
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 1: it's a good question. I always get that all the time,

965
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: and the answer is, um, you know, networks don't really

966
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: know what type of product that they're gonna want the

967
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: following year. So we're making these movies development, developing them

968
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: with the network. Right, So they're going to release their

969
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: slate this October, November, December. They're going to kind of

970
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: evaluate the ratings, make a decision, look at budgets, and say, okay,

971
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: we did twenty eight this year. Lifetime is doing original

972
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: Christmas movies this year, which is which is insane, right Yeah,

973
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 1: And so um uh, you know I'm lucky enough to

974
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: have two of those that did one in May, um

975
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: and then doing this one now, and um, you know

976
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: they're gonna evaluate the ratings, look at budgets, and kind

977
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: of make decisions on what do we want for our slate?

978
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: How many how many slots were we filling? Which movies

979
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: work for us, which one is didn't. So we're gonna

980
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: start developing these movies and pitching them to them around September, October, November.

981
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: And by the time they're making decisions and and putting

982
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: out contracts, you're looking at you know, jan fab March, right,

983
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: And so now we're kind of like getting deep into

984
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: the script and the development process. And because we're working

985
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: with the network, there's a lot of people that are

986
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: involved and putting hands on it and eyes on it.

987
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: So by the time we have a script that's ready

988
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: to shoot, you know, it's it's now April May, and

989
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: if you have to to do like you know, I'm

990
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: lucky enough to have I did one in May, kind

991
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: of wrap it up in June, catch my breath, start

992
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: start prepping another one, and here we are in August. Um.

993
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's gonna be a hard pass doing a

994
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: Christmas movie in August in Louisiana. Ever again, I think

995
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: I'll I'll come up to Nashville and sleep in your

996
00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: guest room. Um. But yeah, it's it's it's going well,

997
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 1: I mean really the main two elements that we're fighting

998
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: um right now is during the summer. You know, you

999
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: get that midday kind of pop up storm that happens

1000
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: and it's really unpredictable, and then just the heat. I

1001
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: mean it's just so brutal. Uh. You know. Fortunately, working

1002
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: with three of the six actors on this movie, um,

1003
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: I worked with with them doing Christmas movies in the

1004
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: middle of summer, so they knew what they were getting into,

1005
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: including Janna, so um uh and she's uh, you know,

1006
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 1: I must say I was. I was mentioning to her

1007
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: just working with her two years ago and Christmas in

1008
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: Mississippi and working with her now. It's just it's just

1009
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: exciting to work with her again. And you know, it

1010
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: just I haven't seen her since then, and and uh

1011
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: just kind of seeing where she is now, it's like

1012
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: so just so impressive. It's like so much growth, and

1013
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: you know, seeing her with you know, being a mom

1014
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: too kids. It's just it's so cool to see her

1015
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: like do the double duty thing. Um. But yeah, we're

1016
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: having a good time and and uh, I'm looking forward

1017
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: to things settling down in week two so I can

1018
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 1: spend a little more time on set. Absolutely what's been

1019
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: you know for And even when I when I first

1020
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: started going on sets with Jenna, I'm like, what does

1021
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: the producer do? Right, So for listeners out there, like

1022
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: explain the elevator pitch for a producer on set, like

1023
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: what you're doing on a daily basis. So I would

1024
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: kind of compare it to a general contractor, right, So

1025
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: you're pretty much, you know, the guy who's in charge

1026
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: of hiring all the subs and managing your budget and

1027
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: making sure that the jobs getting done at the quality

1028
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: and at the price point that you want for your

1029
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: ultimate you know buyer. So I I typically compare it

1030
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: to to building a house. And so that's really my

1031
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: responsibility is I try to get the best subs possible.

1032
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 1: So you know, um, not too simplify it in that way,

1033
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: but my director, my DP, my production designer DP is

1034
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: is director of photography who's in charge of all the lighting. Um.

1035
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: And you know, it's interesting about making movies and it's

1036
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 1: also very complex is that you know, really every single

1037
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: craft out there we utilize in the film industry. So

1038
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's so great to like talk

1039
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: to people in all the different walks of life because

1040
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: when you're making a movie, it's really when everybody comes together,

1041
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 1: from a chef to an account to a hair hairstylist,

1042
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: to an actor, to a storyteller to somebody who can,

1043
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, rig up lights and run cable and drive trucks.

1044
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: You get all these personalities together and then you throw

1045
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: in all these different specific unions that govern the different

1046
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: personalities and you have to just keep the ship moving

1047
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: in the right direction. And and it's just it's a challenge.

1048
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: So it's as a producer, you're really just responsible for

1049
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: hiring the right people, doing what you can to stay

1050
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 1: out of the way, let them do their thing. And

1051
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: when and when the you know the the ship is

1052
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 1: going down the wrong path, you just try to straighten

1053
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: it up a little bit. And so that's that's really

1054
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: my job. So at the end of the day, you know,

1055
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: my crew makes me look good. The actress made me

1056
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: look good, and and I'm appreciative of that because you know,

1057
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: I don't know the first thing about doing what they're doing.

1058
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: I just know how to find good people. Do you

1059
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: feel like you're put your spend a lot of days

1060
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: that kind of putting out fires, absolutely, taking care of problems,

1061
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: problem solving. Jana was Janna was giving me the other

1062
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: day about you. Uh no, she was gonna be like,

1063
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: you're never on set, never see you, what are you doing.

1064
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, if I'm on set, then ultimately that means

1065
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: that things are things are gonna get a little dicey

1066
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: as we move from this location to the next. I'm

1067
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: always just one step ahead and making sure that you know,

1068
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: once we landed a new location or dealing with other elements,

1069
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: that we're gonna be prepared. And um, you know, I

1070
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: do like sitting on set, but at the end of

1071
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: the day, you know, unfortunately I have to kind of

1072
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: get out in front. Well, and it's kind of boring

1073
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: sitting on set after a while totally. Well, look, the

1074
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: thing is is because I'm also financially responsible for, you know,

1075
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: the final cost of the movie at the end of

1076
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: the day. Um, and uh, when I'm on set, like

1077
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm just terrified, like every everything that I'm saying, it's

1078
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: like if the if the camera is is like about

1079
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: to tilt over, my heart dropping, like like you know,

1080
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: it's just it's just ignorance, is bliss? You just rather

1081
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: not see or rather not well this morning, you know

1082
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: this morning, we're trying to shoot you know, the introduction

1083
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: between uh, you know, Janna and her male co star,

1084
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: Percy DAGs and um, it's the first time they meet

1085
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: in the movie, and we're supposed to have this dog

1086
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: sort of like run up to Janna wearing reindeer ears

1087
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: and and the dog just was not interested. And so

1088
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: you know, we we you know, we don't shoot these

1089
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: movies in sequential order, and so we've already established and

1090
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: what we shot before we got here today. We've already

1091
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: talked about the dog. We've already kind of interwoven him

1092
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: into the story. So had we shot this scene first,

1093
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: I would have said, Okay, we're gonna rewrite the script,

1094
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:47,919
Speaker 1: get the dog out of the way. We're just gonna

1095
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: keep moving. But instead, we really tried to figure out

1096
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: how do we make this dog do what it needs

1097
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: to do? And so we had peanut butter and you know,

1098
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: legs a little movie magic, you know, once you see

1099
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: it all all cut together, but it's it's it's always

1100
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: just really funny interesting things. Why is it that movies

1101
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: are filmed in not insequential order? Like, what is the

1102
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: theory behind that? Well, I mean the main reason is

1103
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: is um, first of all your locations, right, so you

1104
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: know we might uh, as an example, you know, we

1105
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: started this movie. The first four days we shot in

1106
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: all of the house, so you know, we might open

1107
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: up the movie in the house, and twenty minutes later

1108
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: we might have a scene in the house, and you know,

1109
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: thirty minutes later another scene in the house. So if

1110
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: if you were to shoot an insequential order, you'd have

1111
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: to be sort of in a one location type scenario. Um. Also,

1112
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: you know, you have what's called turnaround at the end

1113
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: of the day. Um, and everybody's turnaround is different depending

1114
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: on what their actors or you know, laborers, etcetera. But UM,

1115
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: you know, if we're doing a night shoot and we're

1116
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: you know, called times at seven pm and we're shoot

1117
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: until the sun comes up, well, you know you can't

1118
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: the next day then shoot daytime stuff because you know,

1119
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: you've got to give people enough time to shut their

1120
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: eyes a little bit. And um, you know. So that's

1121
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: that's really the main reason why. You know, it's it's

1122
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: one of those things. I'm a big movie go or,

1123
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: like I love movies, Eastern loves movies, and it's I'm

1124
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: fascinated by the behind behind the scenes stuff, even though

1125
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: sitting there for a while you're like, all right, I'm

1126
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: ready to go home. But it's it's almost like I

1127
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: feel like a kid. Sometimes I'd rather not know because

1128
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm such a believer on what I see on screen.

1129
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: But like, I don't want to know that you didn't

1130
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: shoot everything in a row. I don't want to know

1131
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: that this isn't in order, you know what I mean.

1132
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: So like, as a movie goer, was that something like

1133
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: for you you just always had that mind on the

1134
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: on the back end, or you know, of no, this

1135
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: is how it works. Is I'm gonna do my job

1136
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: and you're just all business, or was any part of

1137
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: you like, oh, this is just not what I imagined. Well,

1138
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,439
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I never uh, I never knew

1139
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: I was gonna be in the film industry, you know,

1140
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: I just, um, I've always just been good with people,

1141
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: um and sort of had these leadership skills that I

1142
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: knew it would serve me well at some point um

1143
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: in life. And you know, I um, I graduated college

1144
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: uh and started working at a restaurant waiting tables, and

1145
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: then ended up working at Chase Bank for a couple

1146
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: of years and just so happened that um, uh, the

1147
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: guy walked into the bank. I was working at UM

1148
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: around two thousand four in Louisiana, and and there's tax

1149
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: incentives that had just passed where uh it started drawing

1150
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people in and here I was, and

1151
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: uh I was. I was this guy's banker. And he

1152
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: was a film producer who had just moved here from

1153
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: l A And uh so I was his banker for

1154
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: about a year and we built a relationship, and um

1155
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: he decided to expand his operation and he said, look,

1156
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: I need somebody that's good with numbers, that understands how

1157
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: to take a contract and monetize that is it's something

1158
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: you're interested. And I'm this twenty three year old kid.

1159
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: It's like absolutely And fortunately, you know, I got out

1160
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: of the banking business right you know, kind of at

1161
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: the right time. Um, but was sort of thrown to

1162
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: the holes, you know, UM kind of learned about watching

1163
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: what not to do. You know, my first my first

1164
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: kind of film job, it was just uh, um, you know,

1165
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: it was just it was a bit of a mess

1166
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. And so you know, I

1167
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: just kind of figured out along the way and and um,

1168
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: kind of transition from there and started working with Kimbad

1169
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: Tissue I've I've worked with for a long time and uh,

1170
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: and now you know, I'm I'm sort of preparing to

1171
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: segue out onto my own but um, you know, it's

1172
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: been a it's been a long journey and every movie

1173
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: I sort of learned something new and I am always

1174
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: fascinated about, um, you know, how things happen and really

1175
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: goes on behind the scenes for sure. Two questions before

1176
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: we wrap up. The first thing is, I know you

1177
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: kind of touched on it with like, you know, the

1178
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: camera falling over whatever. What is your biggest fear? Like,

1179
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: what's the atomic bomb for a producer to happen on

1180
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: a movie set? Well, we went through it two years

1181
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: ago Christmas in Mississippi. Remember when when um so we

1182
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: had a hurricane that was coming. We had three days

1183
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: we literally shot if anybody out there saw Christmas in

1184
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: Mississippi with Janet Cramer and West Brown. Um we shot

1185
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: our first twelve days and the final three days of

1186
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: shooting was all the light show stuff. So when you

1187
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: watch um all the stuff the finale them setting up

1188
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: the light show. We had shot everything but that hurricanes

1189
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: forming in the Gulf. I had to call Force massure.

1190
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: I had to put every one of my actors on

1191
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: the airplane immediately to get them to safety. I'm sitting

1192
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: there with twelve of my fifteen days shot. The entire

1193
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: finale of the movie is not anywhere on film and

1194
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: all that. This is big stuff, by the way, it's

1195
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: it's a two point The Harbor Light Show in Gulfport,

1196
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: Mississippi is a two point two million dollar light show

1197
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: that Island View puts on. And you know, they the

1198
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: town put this up in the middle of the summer

1199
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: for us. So here they are. They're now exposed because

1200
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: the hurricanes coming. So they're panicking and I'm thinking if

1201
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: that set gets destroyed, I'm sitting here with a beautiful

1202
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: movie with no like literally no light show. So I

1203
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: and the and the problem is is thirteen actors in

1204
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: the scenes, and nine of them we're from from the

1205
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: West coast. So I had to find this is in August, Okay.

1206
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: I had to find three days that all thirteen people

1207
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 1: were mutually available to bring them back. And on top

1208
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: of that, I had to do it and finish it

1209
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: and deliver it for Christmas. And so we I found

1210
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: Labor Day week as three days. Jana's mom had gotten

1211
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: married up in Michigan, right, who is it her? At

1212
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: that point it was her cousin. Okay, so she went

1213
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: up to Michigan. She and so we were shooting the

1214
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: next morning. All my other actors are there except the

1215
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 1: star of the movie. She she calls me. She's like, Okay,

1216
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: this is not a joke. I'm at the airport. My

1217
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: flight's delayed like four hours. We are. Call time is

1218
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: at six am, so I'm like literally pressing refresh on

1219
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: my phone. I had to get a portable charger just

1220
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: to keep pressing refresh. She gets on an airplane finally,

1221
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: at like eleven o'clock. Emily Wilson and Greg Wilson. Emily

1222
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: is the director of that movie and this one. They

1223
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: drove to New Orleans, picked her up, and drove her

1224
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: back to Gulfport. I was waiting in the parking lot

1225
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: for her to thirty in the morning. We threw in

1226
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: her hotel room. Three hours later, knock on the door,

1227
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: throw her in the trailer, and we shot those three days,

1228
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: and then she rapped. I had to put her on

1229
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: a plane because she had a project in l A

1230
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: So the atomic bomb is that when you have to sit,

1231
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: you have to stop shooting in the middle of production

1232
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: and send people away and bring them back and if

1233
01:05:54,040 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: you can, good luck. Yeah, and I biasedly, and maybe

1234
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: i'm biasedly too. You probably had one of the best

1235
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: people to have to do that with it in Channa,

1236
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: because she's a workhorse and she'll just get she'll just

1237
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: get it done to like whatever it takes. She'll just

1238
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: be like, all right, let's do it. And she is

1239
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: a she is a pro at everything she does. She'll

1240
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: she'll have her moments of bit and complaining, but we

1241
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: all do right, anyone would in that situation, but she

1242
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: because she shows up and and she she takes care

1243
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: of business. All right. That was the net. That was

1244
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: the atomic bomb. Now the last thing that will wrap

1245
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: up with is what is that moment where you just

1246
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: are like something happens on the movie. Maybe it's when

1247
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: things are done, You're like, man, I love my job,

1248
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: Like being a producer is awesome because this happened. Uh,

1249
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: you know it's it. It sounds bad, but it's not.

1250
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: Literally when everybody leaves and goes home is the best

1251
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: moment for me because it's like, you know, I've done

1252
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: my job. People came together, we made up, we made

1253
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: a movie, and you know, we always hope it's going

1254
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: to be great. But the thing is when you see

1255
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: them out of sacrifice that people put into these movies.

1256
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about crews working, you know, fourteen

1257
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen hour days, you know, away from their families,

1258
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: away from their kids, and you know, you put your

1259
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: life on hold because you're so exhausted. There's literally no

1260
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: way to give any ounce of you to anyone else.

1261
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: And so it's such a relief from me when I

1262
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: know that there's you know, you could have some atomic

1263
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Speaker 1: bombs and post for sure, but now in the digital age,

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Speaker 1: just a little bit, you know, less tricky because you're

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01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: not dealing with film um on a lot of movies.

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Speaker 1: But it's always great when we say that's a rap.

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Speaker 1: I go around and just see everybody and thank them,

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Speaker 1: and when they're when they're gone and all the equipment

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Speaker 1: is turned in, and you know, it's just the best

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Speaker 1: feeling in the world. But really the greatest feeling is

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Speaker 1: when you when you press play on that cut for

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Speaker 1: the first time and you see the see the finished product.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's the best feeling in the world.

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Speaker 1: Have you had moments because I've always wondered this for

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Speaker 1: someone who works in the business when because there's some

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Speaker 1: movies out there they're just like terrible, right that you

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Speaker 1: watched the maybe like god, this sucks it. Like have

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Speaker 1: you ever worked on a film that you're a part

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Speaker 1: of and when you see that first cut like posted

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Speaker 1: and everything, You're just like, this isn't that good? Every

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Speaker 1: one of them, honestly, every one of them. And part

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Speaker 1: of it's just because I'm so I'm so critical and

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Speaker 1: I really want, I really want everything to be great,

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Speaker 1: you know, because these movies are made for like specific customers,

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Speaker 1: and I want it's so important for them to be

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Speaker 1: happy because if they're happy, it means they're ordering more.

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Speaker 1: But I'm always just so every single one of them, like,

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Speaker 1: oh man, that didn't really work or and it's just

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you build it up to be like man,

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Speaker 1: like in your head, you just have these expectations and

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01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: then probably nothing really meets matches your excitement going into yeah,

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Speaker 1: not going back to the house. And I'll analogy, but

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01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: it's like it's like your builder calling. You're saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: your your house is done. We still have a couple

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Speaker 1: of tweaks, but come on out and you get out

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01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: there and it's like the slab and the frame and

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01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, well, how am I supposed to live in.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like it's not really the finished product,

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Speaker 1: you know, but it's always good to kind of see

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Speaker 1: it evolved. Typically by the third cut, you know it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's looking good, and then you lay the music

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Speaker 1: in and then you do the sound mix, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that, Um, a friend of mine's on set tonight.

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Speaker 1: He just him and his family came in to be

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Speaker 1: an extra, and he he knows nothing about the business.

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Speaker 1: He's never been on a movie set, and he's like,

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Speaker 1: how in the world do y'all pull this off? Like

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Speaker 1: we watch movies and you have no idea. It's insane

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Speaker 1: of making a movie. Has nothing to do with a

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Speaker 1: camera and an actor. It's like literally nothing. It's like

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Speaker 1: there's so much that goes into it. I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: got a guy right now who's like canvassing the streets

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Speaker 1: looking for, you know, places that we can secure to

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Speaker 1: park a hundred extras that are going to be coming

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Speaker 1: into this small town. It's like it's a tiny area,

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01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 1: So where do you park a hundred people? And then

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Speaker 1: how do you get those hundred people from the parking

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Speaker 1: lot to the area that they're going to be checking

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Speaker 1: in and changing? And then where are you feeding them?

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Speaker 1: It's like who thinks about that? You know what I mean?

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01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 1: Like none of us think about that, But that's like

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Speaker 1: your job to think about that, which I will kudos

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Speaker 1: to you, not only you know, I've got to know

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Speaker 1: each other the last couple of years. You're a fantastic person, honestly,

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Speaker 1: genuinely mean that. And the fact that you're able to

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Speaker 1: take because you guys get different cruise no matter where

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Speaker 1: you're shooting, right, It's not like you're bringing the same

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Speaker 1: white people saying this the same that a few people

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Speaker 1: you are, Yeah, a few people. You still have new

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Speaker 1: cruise on certain things that you're working with. So the

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Speaker 1: fact that you're able to take those new people, those

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Speaker 1: new personalities, mold them with the ones that you have

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Speaker 1: around you, and turn out a successful project is fascinating

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Speaker 1: and very I mean, I don't know a lot of

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Speaker 1: people that could do that. So kudos to you and

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Speaker 1: what you do, man, I appreciate it. I'm happy to

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Speaker 1: come on and chat with you guys, and it's been fun.

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Speaker 1: You know. We're right in the middle of our final,

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Speaker 1: uh final shoot day of week one, so um you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm uh, well, congratulations, it's gonna be Was it Christmas

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Speaker 1: on the River? No? No, No, A little surprised here.

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Speaker 1: So you know, Christmas in Mississippi was Jana's last movie, right,

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Speaker 1: I think we're onto something here. This one's Christmas in Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not stopping fifty states, right, Let's do it. Yeah, So, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll do Christmas in in Tennessee next year.

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Speaker 1: How Christmas in Hawaii? All right, we'll start writing the script.

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Speaker 1: I'll stay all three weeks for that one, and this

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Speaker 1: will be out the holiday season on Lifetime. Yes, it will,

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Speaker 1: all right. The other one I shot is called Christmas Wish.

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Speaker 1: Christmas Wish starring a few of Jana's former stars at

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Speaker 1: One Tree Hill. Who's in that one? Hillary Burton, Tyler,

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Speaker 1: Hilton Lee Norris, Barbara Allen Woods, all sorts of. We

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Speaker 1: have a lot of One Tree Hitlers that listen to

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Speaker 1: this podcast naturally, so Antoine Tanner, Colin Ficis, It's it's

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01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 1: a it's a star studded cast. So um that one

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Speaker 1: and this one here, did you guys announce who's in

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Speaker 1: this this film? I have not announced it's you know,

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Speaker 1: said Janna Kramer. Percy DAGs the third from Veronica Marsh.

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Speaker 1: We've got Moira Kelly, who's also a one tree holl Alone.

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Speaker 1: She was the star of the Cut Edge Setting It,

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Speaker 1: which freaked Jan out. Janna was watched that movie a

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Speaker 1: thousand times. Brian McNamara from Army Wives and he was

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01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 1: nominated for Golden Globe and Billionaire Boys Club way back

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Speaker 1: in the day, and then Very Bostwick Rocky Horror Picture Show.

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Speaker 1: He was the movie. But I'm excited to meet him.

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Speaker 1: He was in the movie with Janna and I two

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Speaker 1: years ago. He played meet him. No, no, no, he was.

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Speaker 1: He came for a few days. And then d Wallace, Uh,

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Speaker 1: who's the mom from ET and she was on this

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Speaker 1: show last week on the podcast. Yeah, that's very cool,

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Speaker 1: so UM had her on awesome. Yeah, she's been great. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you again, Daniel, appreciate your time. We're gonna wrap

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Speaker 1: it up here from Yeah from New Iberia, Louisiana. Sign

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Speaker 1: it off, Sign it off Later