1 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flowing out of the 3 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: backfield thanks flooding down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys, 4 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: presented by Wingstoff Where Flavor gets its Wings. Now, your hosts, 5 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross Tuesday, 6 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Thank you wing Stop, the official 7 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: official wing of the Dallas Cowboys. Where flavoring gets its wing? 8 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: Or what is it? What did I say? Where flavoring 9 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: gets its wings? That's it? There we go, sir. That's 10 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: right yet. Thank gust WBC Mortgage for sponsoring my living room. 11 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: Thank you Nate Newton for gracing us with your presence. 12 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: Thank you Jesse Holly for being color coordinated today, and 13 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: Kurt Daniels with your uh navy blue button up shirt 14 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: on Hey, what made you call? Jesse side has been 15 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: color coordinated? You like that when he got all my friends? 16 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: I like it. It's nice. I like it. I do 17 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: like it like that half a yes, yes, and to 18 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: the guy. And here's here's the deal. There's somebody I 19 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: don't even know. He's not even worth me. Saying his 20 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: name even if I looked it up. Somebody hit me 21 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: up on Twitter and said, we need to replace Kurt 22 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: with Mickey because Kurt don't say nothing on the show. 23 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: And I just want to that is yes, that is 24 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: b s because Kurt, you bring, You bring something to 25 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: this show that none of us can structure of us 26 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: do structure you brings you bring exactly. So I just 27 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: want to tell that guy, like Core, this guy was, 28 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 1: you don't know what you're talking about. Me and Kurt. 29 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: Here's the deal. Me and Kurt don't put us, don't 30 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 1: put yourself in the say, don't put yourself, don't try 31 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: to put yourself into category, and Kurt don't Me and 32 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: Kurt don't even try to do it. I am saying 33 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: Kurt and I both are similar in this way only 34 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: on this show. We know that that too, Yes, that's it, 35 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: very in the disgust that there's a more similarities between 36 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: you and Kurt on this show. We both know, we 37 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: know our roles on this show. We do what we're 38 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: what we need to do. We don't get in the 39 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: way too often. We let the talent. And there's two 40 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: people on the show that have talent and they're not 41 00:02:53,320 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: like and the other guys just out of control. So 42 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: so Kurt, I don't. I don't. The only reason why 43 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: I talk a lot is because I host the show 44 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: and I get us in and out of breaks. But 45 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: I just want to say that I wouldn't want anyone 46 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: else on this show except you, because I think we 47 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: have the perfect mix of talent on this show. So 48 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: me and Mickey up boys. I love Mick. I'm always 49 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: defending me. But between him and Jesse, oh my god, 50 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: two guys would not get to be able to say nothing. 51 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: You couldn't something about Jesse that don't mix. It's all 52 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: in water. I don't know what it is. And they 53 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: were I'll talk each other. So there you go. So 54 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: we got I won't get me in trouble to appreciate. Stop. 55 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: Just move on. Let's just move on. Let's just move on. 56 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: Let's let's move on. I'm not listening. I'm making it 57 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: out of twenty twenty before when I going to the 58 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: principal's office, y'all won't me today? Too close to twenty one, 59 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm too close. Yeah, you got to get I know 60 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: you got a few more days. Oh well, fellas the 61 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. The Kellen Moore situation is heating up. It's 62 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: getting some attention. We've got ownership talking about it. It 63 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: sounds like no one's really saying, but it could be 64 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: a done deal. What are y'all thoughts on this? You 65 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: think he's staying or you think he's going. I would 66 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: say it's you know, despite what I feel for Kellen 67 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: Moore as an OC, I really do think this is 68 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: a great opportunity for him. I mean, no, no, no, 69 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: to see Nate. See see I am being serious, Nate, 70 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: I am being serious. I am being serious. Be serious. 71 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: See this is what he's talking about. One of us 72 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: got talent, one of us out of control. I need 73 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: you to be the one that has the talent right now. 74 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: And jes going to follow it up. Jessica followed up 75 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: by saying, and you know what, I wish the defensive 76 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: coordinator would get too, because I think it'd be a 77 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: good move for him to no, because here's the thing 78 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: I think for Kellen Moore, coming from boys, doing what 79 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: he did in Boise and having that historical kind of 80 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: thing wrapped around him. When you you have a different perspective, 81 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: when you go from being a player to a position 82 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: coach to a coordinator to actually now running the show. 83 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: And I think this will help him become a better 84 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: league OC if he wants to become an NFL offensive coordinator, 85 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: maybe down the line a head coach. Everyone talks about 86 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: how smart he is, but nothing replaces head coach reps 87 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: like actually being a head coach, understanding what it means 88 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: to come in and have to put an entire program together. 89 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: Not just being able to sit in one room with 90 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: some quarterbacks and say hey, here's the plan, but actually 91 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: having to put together a staff, actually have to recruit players, 92 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: to develop players. Now you will be an offensive side 93 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: of the ball type of guy, but being able to 94 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: get all these pieces in place, a practice plan, a 95 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: travel plan, what happens when adversity hits, what happens when 96 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: the player gets injured, all of these things. You don't 97 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: really understand the full scope of it when you're an 98 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: assistant or when you're a position coach, because that weight 99 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: isn't on your shoulders. And so for him, I think 100 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: taking a step back from being thrusted in this Cowboys 101 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: spotlight going to a place light Boise where the expectations 102 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 1: won't be high. It's not like he's going to Ohio 103 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: State or he's going to Alabama. The expectations for him 104 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: to be a national champion isn't high. To have success, yes, 105 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: but you don't have to worry about going to win 106 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: a national championship. Then you can go and really hone 107 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: up your head coaching skills, your coordinator skills, being an 108 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: offensive play caller, understanding that, and then after a couple 109 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: of years, if you don't like it, I think then 110 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: you matriculate your way back into the National Football League 111 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: having a better understanding of how to put a whole 112 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: plan and program together. Then step back into it and 113 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: be an OC and then work your way back to 114 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: being a head coach. I kind of disagree just a 115 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: little bit, Jess and what you're saying, let's do it. 116 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: I like it just a few points because what you're 117 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: saying overall is true. But Keller Moore, it's not just 118 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: a guy. He is Boise, he is Idaho, he is 119 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: the world. They expect a whole lot of things from him. 120 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: They want to be back when the other coaches there 121 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: that went to Washington, they want to be back. In 122 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: that argument every year that why are you leaving us out? 123 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: Of the playoffs. They are expecting that now. True, they 124 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: are loaded machine and the division that they're in the 125 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: conference at the end, they win ten games regularly, but 126 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: they want more from Keller. They're going to expect more, 127 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: and I think he will feel a little bit of 128 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: that pressure. So uh, I think they want to get 129 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: back in the spot like Boys that has been going 130 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: and winning and winning, but nobody's talking about him at 131 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: the more five or six seven years ago, that was 132 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: the talk of all the second tier teams. It was 133 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: always Boys. But now they're Cincinnati, like Cincinnati is this year. 134 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: Oh you left hout Cincinnati, even though Boys is not 135 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: a Division one school like that. But that is the 136 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: breath they used to be spoken into. And that's that's 137 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: a little smart part, the little part that I disagree. 138 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: They're going to expect a lot from Keller. So I 139 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: just believe that. Jesse, I know you were kind of 140 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: critical of Kellen during the game and you kind of 141 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: said you'd like to see him leave, and like, I 142 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: get that. There's been times it seems like he's been 143 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: too cute, kind of in the red zone and stuff. 144 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: But you know, last year they had they set a 145 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: team record for yards and all that, and this year 146 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: they're going to be maybe top five in Cowboys history 147 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: for yards and all and you know with four quarterbacks 148 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: and a banged up offensive line. I mean, I don't 149 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: know's I'd hate to see him leave in some way, 150 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: it's just because I feel like he's developing into a 151 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: really good OC and now the Cowboys maybe in some 152 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: way you have to kind of start over, but you 153 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: maybe not see it that way. No, I think it 154 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: is that what is it produced? Right? We got a 155 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: lot of numbers, but what it has? It produced an 156 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: eight and eight record last year and you know, a 157 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: seven and nine record at best this year. So you 158 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: can give me all the numbers, but what makes like 159 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: think about this? And I don't think someone said it 160 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: last night, but look at look at the New England Patriots, 161 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: and I know we're all were using it as the 162 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: gold standard, but they are the gold standard. Do you 163 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: think with that roster and how depleted it is and 164 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: their quarterback situation and eight guys had opted out for 165 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: COVID and just injuries, do you think without a good 166 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: coach in a good system that they would even be 167 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: where they're at right now with six or seven wins. 168 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: I don't think so. And I think when you look 169 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: at what Kelly, with everything that you had, you had 170 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: a healthy Deck Prescott last year, you had a semi 171 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: healthy offensive line last year. You had just about all 172 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: the weapons that you had last year, and it still 173 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: didn't produce. And the thing about the coaching is when 174 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: I look at Keller Moore, it's it's what makes the 175 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: great coaching. It's like it's like players, if you're coaching 176 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, if you're playing in the 177 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: National Football League, you have some ability. But what separates 178 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: those from the great coaches and the average coaches and 179 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: the great players and the average players that it's it's 180 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: not it's not this big mileage between the two. It's 181 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: those little things that separate. And for me, when I 182 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: look at what Kelly Moore does, he's still very vanilla 183 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: and the type of approach that he has with the 184 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: offensive he doesn't he doesn't confuse people, he doesn't put 185 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: people on their toes. And you have a wealth of talent, 186 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: you have the ability to do it with the talent 187 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: that you have. A lot of what he does is 188 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: just kind of I'm just gonna line up and basically 189 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: beat you because my Jimmy's and Joe's are pretty much 190 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: better than you're Jimmy jan Joe's. And then there's those 191 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: critical moments in the game, those three or four or 192 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: five players within the game where you need to be 193 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: on the point. You need to have that thing dialed up. 194 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: You need to have that thing ready to go, and 195 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: Kellen just doesn't have that. He just doesn't have that 196 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: for me and to me, with all the talent, I 197 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: don't want to see any more years wasted on dak 198 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: On Amari On zeke on cd on, Michael Gallup. All 199 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: these years are being wasted because they are not producing. Yes, 200 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: the numbers are are are good, and all of the 201 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: numbers across the league have risen, even the bad bad 202 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: teams and numbers have risen. I just don't want to 203 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: waste any more years on trying to figure this thing out. 204 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: I want to go ahead and take this well oiled 205 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: machine as far as the talent based, and just have 206 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: somebody just just like the rocket boost behind it to 207 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: get it over that hump man so that we can 208 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: produce something more than just eight and eight or barely 209 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: getting by. Are you gonna waste are you gonna waste 210 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: Are you gonna waste another year bringing in a new 211 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: guy and getting used to his system. No, my prayer, 212 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: my prayer is the guy has been here for a 213 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: year already, Mike, prayer that they finally let Mike McCarthy 214 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: do what you brought him in here to do. Because 215 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: this is the thing that I'm having a hard time 216 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: wrapping my head around. Why did you bring Mike McCarthy here? Like, 217 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: why did you bring me here? That is the biggest 218 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: part of me. And why did you bring him here? 219 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: If this is if you want him just walking around 220 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: on game day twiddling in his thumbs and digging in 221 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: his nose and doing god knows what you know in 222 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: between the huns, then you could have kept Jason Garrett 223 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: and just brought in office accorded at the officeivecording, you know, 224 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: bringing bringing an analyti that was the case. I don't 225 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: know why you brought him here if for not to 226 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: let him do what he does. And that's the thing 227 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: I'm trying to wrap my head around on what was 228 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: the purpose of you bringing him here? If the purpose 229 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: was because of his offensive genius or whatever, then let 230 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: him do that. Give him full control and let him 231 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: do that. This is why you're paying him the big bucks. 232 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: You're not paying him the big bucks to walk around 233 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: and make sure that people are on time for practice 234 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: or that we got to practice report of injuries. No, 235 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: you brought him in here because of his knowledge on 236 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball and his ability to 237 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: develop quarterbacks. I just think, let him do that. You know, 238 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: this is you know. I listen to our flagship station 239 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: and Kurt, they said the very same thing you said. 240 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: And I remember when we first acquired coach, everybody talked 241 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: about his ability to call offenses, how he helped the 242 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: young Aaron Rodgers for they bumped heads, and everybody was 243 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: so shocked when they kept Keller Moore as office a coordinator. 244 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: Why would you bring him in here? Why would you 245 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: just get the guy in Oklahoma? Why would you get 246 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: this guy? Why would you get a young guy? We 247 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: wanted a bright, strong been there before offensive mine. Now 248 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: I hear everybody saying we kill him leaving. I just 249 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: don't know about Mike McCarthy. We had, you mean to 250 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: tell me we went out and got coach McCarthy for what? Well, 251 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: I think you gotta you gotta wonder his ownership gonna 252 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: let him because you remember they took the OC job 253 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: away from Garrett saying they wanted to walk around coach 254 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: and the Garrett's last couple of years, and you know 255 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: he wanted to call plays, but they wouldn't let him. 256 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: They let Kellen Moore in. But so are they gonna 257 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: change his ownership? Gonna change? That's on Garrett. That's on 258 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: Garrett sometimes. No, No, Kurt, Okay, I'll use my household 259 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: if I if I'm if I'm about to lose my 260 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: wife and daughter, this, it's up to me. And if 261 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: it's up to me, I'm gonna go down fighting. I 262 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: ain't gonna let Jesse come in and say, well, I 263 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: counsel y'all and I'll be the mediated between whether y'all 264 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: stay together. That ain't gonna work. If Coach McCarthy is 265 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: all of that when we when eight months ago, if 266 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: he was all of that when we hired him and 267 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: started and talked about his offensive powers. Now all of 268 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: a sudden we go through a terrible year, which he 269 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: has managed well, and now he has an opportunity to 270 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: call plays. Now, all of a sudden, eight months pass 271 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: and he's diminished. What what Why why fired this guy? 272 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: Get rid of him, get rid of Nolan. It just 273 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: that's just keep uh kill him and make him the 274 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: head coach if it's because what we're basing this all 275 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: on is whether kill him is here or not that 276 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: if the ship don't stop, the head coach is Mike McCarthy, Lisa, 277 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: I thought he was but the last few days. But 278 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: will it be the coordinator? I guess that's the That's 279 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: the question. I've been hearing about Nuts smyre is as 280 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm pronouncing his name right right, I've been I've been 281 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: hearing that he has an opportunity to be an in 282 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: house guy. But I just don't believe. And maybe I'm wrong, 283 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: And hey, you know what, maybe they do want him 284 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: just stand up and walk around and like just to say, 285 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: do do weird things with his hands? Is this? Is 286 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: this any kind of distraction for the players at all? No? Ya? 287 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: And that the most of the most important piece of 288 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: this thing the quarterback, because he wants to know who 289 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: will I be listening to to next? And that's a big, 290 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: big thing because you think about all right, I went 291 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: from listening to Jason Garrett slash John Kittner slash Kellen 292 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: Moore a year ago, and then this year it was 293 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: nuss Meyer slash McCarthy slash Kelly Moore. So now what 294 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: am I gonna do next year? And you want to 295 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: talk about keeping your quarterback? This also goes into play. 296 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: When I'm sitting back and I'm that prescott, I'm saying, Okay, 297 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: who's going to be here with me for the next 298 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: four or five years? Because if we're bouncing offensive coordinators 299 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: out every other year, then I'm gonna end up like 300 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan with all this talent, with all these weapons, 301 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: but I can't keep an offensive chordinator longer than the year. 302 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: So next year, I'm hearing a different voice with a 303 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: different mindset, and then the you're out there, I'm hearing 304 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: a different vote with a different mindset. And then they're 305 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: out there a different voice with a different mindset. That 306 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: throws a quarterback in that that just quarterbacks hate that. 307 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: Quarterbacks are like, they want they want a relationship, they 308 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: want to marriage. I want to know who is going 309 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: to be calling the plays. What are we going to 310 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: be calling, so that there can be this synchronization, this 311 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: synergy between myself and the play caller. When you see 312 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: the good football teams. When you see, especially those who 313 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: have the quarterbacks, the Drew Breeses of the world, Sean 314 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: Payton and Drew Brees, they're so lockstep in with one another, 315 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: they're so they finish each other sentences. It's like a marriage. 316 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: I want to know that he's thinking what I'm thinking. 317 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: When it's third and eight and he calls to the 318 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: he looks something, he goes out, I was gonna call 319 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: that same play. Yeah, we are all the same. That's 320 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: what you want with your quarterbacks. So when you talk 321 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: about it being a distraction, it may not be a 322 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: distraction to the entire team, but it's a damn show 323 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: as a distraction to your quarterback. Who wants to just 324 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: wants to know who am I going to marry? Who 325 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: am I going to be in this committed relationship with? 326 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: Who is who am I going to be able to 327 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: say we are one my old c and my quarterback. 328 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: That's who you want to be like this. You want 329 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: them to be thicker than thieves, so that on game 330 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: day it's it's you always here. Oh, I need you 331 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: to be there. I need you to be my point guard. 332 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: I need you to be the player on the field. 333 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: For me, Well, you cannot do that. If every single 334 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: off season we're changing philosophies and concepts and voices and procedures, 335 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: all these kind of crazy different things. That's where it 336 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: gets a distraction that with my quarterback, if I keep 337 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: changing my offensive coordinator, what about right now for this 338 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: next game? No? Is it? No, doesn't matter. Okay, this 339 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: is what the question, The question I have is the 340 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: question I have, and I will continue to ask this question. 341 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: Who is Mike McCarthy? What is he? What is he? 342 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: I mean? Is he just another Jason Garrett? And that's 343 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: what everybody's relegating him too. Now just walk around because 344 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm say something Fellas y'all may not believe this right here, 345 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: but every successful national head coach in this league, we 346 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: know the head coach, every nun successful head coach in 347 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: this league, we know they coordinate us. Let's pick this 348 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: up when we come back. I think that's a good point. 349 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: Jesse the Gospel finally made a good point on the show. 350 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: Instead of just wanting to hear himself talk, he actually 351 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: had something that I haven't really thought about before. Dak 352 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: Prescott's in the middle of contract negotiations. Still, that's a 353 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: great point because you see a lot of these really 354 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: good talented quarterbacks Ali, Matt Ryan and other guys in 355 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: the league. That Matthew Stafford is a great example where 356 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: they switch out your your coordinator, you know, every every 357 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: other year or something, and you can't get a rhythm 358 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: going and they can't find success. If I'm a quarterback, 359 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm looking to sign a long term deal, I think 360 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: I'm a friend chise guy. That's probably gonna sway my 361 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: decision because my ultimate goal is to win a championship. 362 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: And if I don't think I'm set up for success 363 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: around that, I'm gonna go look somewhere that is, and 364 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at one of these these bright young 365 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: minds that I know I can lock in with that's 366 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: gonna have success with me and elevate themselves to a 367 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: head coaching job whatever, someone that I'm gonna be with 368 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: at least three, four or five years so I can 369 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: get that championship. So I think that's a great point. 370 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: Let's pick that up when we come back. 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Dak Prescott is up for you know, 425 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: call he's in contract negotiations and if I'm him, my 426 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: legacy is going to be cemented with how many championships 427 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: I've won. There's there. You know, there's tons of great 428 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that never make it to the Hall of Fame 429 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: that aren't mentioned in the conversation when it comes to 430 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, elite quarterbacks in the history of the NFL. 431 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: You your legacy is defined by championships, by super Bowl victories, 432 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: not how many times you made it to the playoffs. 433 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: How many times you want a super Bowl? And if 434 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm a young quarterback in my prime and this next 435 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: contract that I'm signing is going to be the prime 436 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: of my career and where I have a chance to 437 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: win those championships, I want it. I want to saddle 438 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: up to a guy that is going to be with 439 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: me through that run of my you know, in my prime. 440 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: How much does this decision factor into DA's decision to 441 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: sign here, hold out not sign here for a long 442 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: term deal? Like how much is that me overthinking what 443 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: you said or is that something he's really thinking about, 444 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: as Hey, I want to be here because this is 445 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: the guy that is going to I'm gonna be hooked 446 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: to for the next four or five six years. You 447 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: want me to answer, you want Nate to go first? 448 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: Either one? You answered, go ahead your question there. When 449 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: you're when you're in contract negotiations at this magnitude, you 450 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: think about everything. See, Dak is just not somebody who's 451 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: just trying to get a deal, Because you need to 452 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: get a deal now you're trying to get a deal 453 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: to be the franchise quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, and 454 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: that means something. So I have to make sure whoever 455 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to be tied to for the next four 456 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: or five years, that it's not going to leave me, uh, 457 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: you know, in a damage situation. And so for Dak, 458 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: he's looking at every single looking cranny. What will my 459 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: roster look like? What will the coaching staff look like? Uh? 460 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: You know how much you know? How much cap room 461 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: will we have in the future, how much you know 462 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: what what what draft picks do we have in the future. 463 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: All of these things are being um being brought to 464 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: the table and added to the equation. So when you 465 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: start hearing rumors about your offensive coordinator potentially going to 466 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: leave for another job, you start to ask the question, 467 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: and to be honest with you, I and maybe this 468 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: is just a player in me For a guy like 469 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, I kind of want in on this conversation. 470 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: I really do. I kind of want in on this conversation. 471 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: I want to know what direction are we actually going in, 472 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: especially if you're looking for me to sign for the 473 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: next four or five years and to be your franchise 474 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: quarterback because I want to know. I want to be 475 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: able to kind of wrap my head and my arms 476 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: around a situation of are we going this way? Does 477 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: this guy fit my style? Right? You may you may 478 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: sign a guy who doesn't fit my style, the way 479 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: I play or the things that I do well. So 480 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: if I'm Dak Prescott, I'm taking everything into consideration, and 481 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: I kind of I'm not saying I have to be 482 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: at the head of the table, but I'm saying, at 483 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: least let me pull up a long chair to the 484 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: table and have a little bit of say so in 485 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: this discussion. Now on the flip side, ownership may say 486 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: you'll have a say so when you sign this deal, 487 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: but Dak also can come back and say, well, I 488 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: ain't signing the deal if I don't have a say 489 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: so in it anyway. So that's what I stand out 490 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: on that I think everything is brought into play when 491 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: you're talking about the magnitude of the contract that Dak 492 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: Prescott is getting ready to sign or will sign or 493 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: hopes to sign to be the franchise quarterback. And I 494 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 1: want in on the decision making when it comes to 495 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: who are we bringing in next? Because at the end 496 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: of the day. This while it falls on Mike McCarthy, 497 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: it also falls on Dak Prescott and to Kurtz and 498 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: to my point earlier, look at Matt Stafford, look at 499 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: Ryan Matt Ryan in Atlanta, two really good talented quarterbacks. 500 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: Problem is bad coaching in some points and a continuum 501 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: revolving door when it comes to offensive coordinating. They don't 502 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: know what they don't know what they're going to be 503 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: from year in and year out because the voices and 504 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: the mindset and the tutelage and everything changes every other 505 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: year for them. So that's why I would be m Natelli. 506 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers walked in a lot of years 507 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: ago and wanted to help make a decision. They looked 508 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: at him and say, you just the player, Well, one 509 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: hundred decision. They messed around and signed into the first 510 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: Mega Mega contract, and all of a sudden everything started 511 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: going his way. So you have to you have to 512 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: know his management. If you're gonna sign this guy, some 513 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: things he gonna have to be offensively, he's gonna have 514 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: to be a part of And so I greet you 515 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: guys one hundred percent. Man. But if y'all start rolling 516 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: in these old seas in here, watch watching, like I 517 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: told you a lot of years ago. One day we 518 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: got to have some defense in here. Start rolling the 519 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: old season here and see what happened. Nate, what was 520 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: it like for I think Jesse when you were at 521 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, it was more or less stable. But Nate, 522 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: with and your running the nineties, I mean you had 523 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: a few guys, a few coaches coming in and out, 524 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: different coordinators. What was that were the players? You know? 525 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: The first four anything? Not the first four or five years. 526 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: Jimmy brought his guys. We only changed officsive coordinators, and 527 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: the only way they were able to leave is that 528 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: they had head coaching jobs. Jimmy believed in stability in 529 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: his organization, and he believed that we did it this way, 530 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: this way, in this way, and we only adjusted if 531 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: we had something elite happened good or bad. Not an 532 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: average guy, not an average situation, but something elite, then 533 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: we made a change. If it wasn't that, we stayed on, 534 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: We stayed focused and on the move. Would they like 535 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: when North left? Did they consult Troy at all? Did 536 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: they did they ask players about didn't have to see 537 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: some certain certain people. And I'll give you another example. 538 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: Was they changed several years ago the office of coordinator 539 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: for Big Ben. He moaned publicly for a little while, 540 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: but in his heart, Big Being new that he had 541 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: trust in the organization to have him first and foremost, 542 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: unlike the Philadelphia Eagles who just blew one hundred million 543 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: dollars and didn't have their quarterback first and foremost. M 544 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: good points, good points, good talk, or organization as Dak 545 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: first and foremost. You know that you know what is 546 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: he under the tag? Or is he signed? That's true, 547 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: that's true, that's going and that's going to be That's 548 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: going to be the life or death when it comes 549 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: to this organization is who are you going to prioritize? 550 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: Because we know this is a quarterback driven league. I 551 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: don't care what you say, I don't care how you 552 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: break it down. This National Football League in the year 553 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one and for the foreseeable future, this 554 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: is a quarterback driven league. You have a good quarterback, 555 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: you have a you have a good quarterback and a 556 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: quarterback that is playing good. You got a chance. Because 557 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: remember there's examples all across the league. Look at Buffalo. 558 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: Josh Allen was a guy two years ago. They were saying, Oh, 559 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: they was already right in the big b a bus. 560 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: He's allowed to be a big bus. He got some stability, 561 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: he got some weapons around them. The front officers made 562 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: some made some changes they made They got some players 563 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: in there. Now a kid tell about either in the 564 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: MVP race and all of a sudden his game change. 565 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: If your quarterback is first and you begin with him 566 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: and build around him, you got something happening. I'm telling you, 567 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: this is a quarterback driven league. It starts there, it 568 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: ends there. When you take care of him and he's 569 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: doing what he's supposed to do for you, you got 570 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: a chance. We're gonna see when it comes with the Cowboys, 571 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: and we're gonna see if Jesse would get into coaching 572 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: when we come back. And also Kurt, the last segment 573 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: is Jures because you made this beautiful document for me 574 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: today and I think we talked about with about ten 575 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: points on it. I think we talked about one. So 576 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: the last segment is Jures after we get to Jesse. 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You should get 621 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: in your car and drive from Arlington to the Star 622 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: in Frisco and help local businesses by choosing one of 623 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: over thirty restaurants in the Star District. For information on delivery, 624 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: takeout or curbside pickup and dining options, visit the Star 625 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: district dot com and speaking from experience, I eat up 626 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 1: there usually multiple times a week, and they've got some 627 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: good stuff there at the Star. All right, Jesse, before 628 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: we turn this thing over to Kurt, do you have 629 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: any desire into ever getting into coaching? No? No, what 630 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 1: if you were offered the head coaching job at UNC? No? No? 631 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: Really what about basketball? No? Talk up? Too much time, 632 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: way too much time, way too much time. I way 633 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: too much time. Like I remember what it was as 634 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: a player, right, how much time that I had to 635 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: sacrifice as a player. Now, think about the people who 636 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: have to get ready for me to come into the building. 637 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: I spent all day there and I had to walk 638 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: into a building and stuff had to be prepared for 639 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 1: me when I got there. Well, who prepared it the coaches, 640 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: So they had to be there before I did and 641 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: after I left, and I was there all day. So no, 642 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: I don't want to I knew know, I know I 643 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: would love to do one thing I would love to do. 644 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: I think I would be great at as far as 645 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: in the coaching world. In college coaching, I think I 646 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: would be great at recruiting, Like I would want to 647 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: go into the homes and meet people. I would be 648 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: great at that. But coaching, I've never had an earning, yearning, 649 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 1: burning sensation anywhere in my body for other reasons as well, 650 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,959 Speaker 1: never had any burning sensations, you know, but in coaching either. 651 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: I tell you why Jesse would be so great Shannon 652 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 1: and Kurt and Chris is he would go into their 653 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: homes and he would started talking and before people like, okay, 654 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: you win signed at twelve hours you can sign. You 655 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: would be You would be so successful you should you 656 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,439 Speaker 1: should fly at every college in Louisiana because you would. 657 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: You would murder them trailer parks, Jesse, you would have everything. 658 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: That's what all the time that right, dear, we all 659 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 1: will be winning my school had a time recoiting class 660 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:17,959 Speaker 1: and I will be a happy band top plea. Yeah, 661 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: they will be taking bring him back to the parks, 662 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: back to the trailer parks, all right, Kurt, last eight 663 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: minutes of the show is all you man get as 664 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: much in as you can. You're on the clock. How 665 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: do you follow that up? How do you follow that 666 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: up with? You can't you can only try. You can 667 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: only try. You can go to mobile home parks. I 668 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: want to I want to get your feedback on this. 669 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: Jerry said this morning that it's unlikely that Zack Martin 670 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: would be back for this final game, but when he 671 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: originally went out, they talked about maybe it would be 672 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: a chance. Would you maybe try to rush him back 673 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: with the playoffs on the line as seventy five percent 674 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: of Zach better than like Terence Steal out there at 675 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: right tackle. Nope, not because he's not better than is 676 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: that I mean better than Steal? Just nope. I wouldn't 677 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: do it. This is this is your all world everything, right. 678 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: You take a little bit more precaution with this guy. 679 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: You want him to be here for the next six 680 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: seven years, so rushing anything back to further hurt it 681 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: again and we talked about it before, the realistic chance 682 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: of the Cowboys getting into the playoffs and actually doing 683 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: any damage. Right, you gotta go through Tampa Bay, you 684 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: gotta go through New Worlds and all that kind of 685 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:39,720 Speaker 1: crazy stuff. With that, with that affect my off season, 686 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: will I be able to Now Zach has to excuse me, 687 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: Zach has to go on and get surgery because we 688 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: rushed them back too soon and now his calf is 689 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: hurt further. Anytime you're dealing with three hundred pound dudes 690 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: and you start dealing with legs, that stuff is recurring injuries. Man. 691 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: You gotta let that thing fully healed and get them 692 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 1: back in the offering so you can get this thing 693 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 1: really right. And I have all your guys ready to 694 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: go tip top shape. You talked about the off season 695 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: here and what's ahead. If you're looking at the bigger picture, 696 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: would it be better for the Cowboys to win this 697 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: last game, finish on a four game winning streak, get 698 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: some momentum going, but lose out on the playoffs, Have 699 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: Washington win, the Cowboys wouldn't make the playoffs, so they 700 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: get a little higher draft pick. I don't care. I 701 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: don't care about draft it because this year here, the 702 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: defense is not with what I talk to some people 703 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: and they keep the saying like, maybe you stretching it 704 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: at ten before you can get a good defensive player. 705 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: So it don't matter. Just go out. Let these scouts 706 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: scout the players, acts the coaches what they like, and 707 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: let the scouts ring in the player. I think if 708 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: they if they would, if they went out, even if 709 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: they didn't make the playoffs, they'd still have a pick 710 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,280 Speaker 1: in the you know. But if they made the playoffs 711 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,919 Speaker 1: and and got knocked out first round, they had picked 712 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: like nineteen or something. So I don't know if it'd 713 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: be that big of a difference. As a player, I 714 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: don't I don't care about, man, Yeah, I don't care 715 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 1: about trust me you think, guys. I don't go out 716 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: there saying, hey, man, let's go get that drive pick. 717 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: I told you guys before. Every high drive pick that 718 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: we get, especially if it's going to be on my 719 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: side of the ball, is an opportunity to me for 720 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: me not to have a job. I want to go 721 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 1: out there and win and play and again we got well, 722 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: the most important thing is to win that last game, 723 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: get four game winning streak. But I just wondered, you know, 724 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: in some eyes, if they didn't make the playoffs but 725 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: have to win, if is it the best of both 726 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: word worlds in some way? Not for the players, you 727 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: just talking about for the fans, right in general? Whatever? 728 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,760 Speaker 1: Either way? No, no, it can't be in general because 729 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 1: you're talking about players, and Jessefs expressed it, and I 730 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: went overboard with expressing losing, and then I creed so 731 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: and losing never losing never build winning habits like it, 732 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: never like the only winning build winning habits like you 733 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: can't build on winning by losing. I want to win 734 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 1: all the time. That that's a habit that I constantly 735 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 1: want to have in my life and my program and 736 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 1: my players. I want to win. We understand that losing 737 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: is a part of what we do, but I don't 738 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: want to be a part of it. I don't want 739 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: to I don't want to nourish it. I don't want 740 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: it to flourish in my program. I don't want it 741 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: to be a part of my vocabulary. I want to 742 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: win all the time, period. And so if you get 743 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: a chance at the playoffs, and if you got the 744 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: right type of guys, that thirst can grow to be 745 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: in those playoffs, And like I said, you know, you know, 746 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: I understand, you know, with the flagship stations. You know, 747 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: guys on two and three and four hours, you got 748 00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: to come up with some type of gimmick. But losing 749 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: ain't just wow. I just sot understand it. What would it? 750 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: What would it make myself understand it? What would it 751 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: do for the guys on the team from a mental 752 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: aspect and at a kind of a swagger to get 753 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: into the playoffs, like finishing the year the way that 754 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: they did. What would that set you up for? Would 755 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 1: that make a difference for next year? If if you 756 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: did limp into the playoffs and you just even if 757 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: you lose that first game you got in when everybody 758 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 1: counted you out, does that does that galvanize you a 759 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: little bit more as a team and it holds you 760 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: more accountable. It holds you more accountable to yourself, to 761 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: your teammates because we had to build like this. We 762 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 1: were kind of like this when we went seven to 763 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: nine and was waiting on another team. I don't know 764 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,439 Speaker 1: who what who it was, I was in the same 765 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 1: position and we sit in front of a store we 766 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 1: oh at the Cowboy Cafe and were cheering for this 767 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: team to win so we could get into playoffs. And yes, 768 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: even back then, our media around here was like, oh, 769 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: losing is the best thing, you know, Yeah, that is 770 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: right for the fans. So I agree for the fans 771 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: and the normal people and stuff like that. But for 772 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: these players, I'm an ex player. I want them to 773 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: get everything they can get, especially the way this year started. Yeah, 774 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: what's it like as players having to rely on in 775 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: this case, Washington to bapelling when it's in the East. 776 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm telling Washington, Washington, Oh, thank you Washington. And Philadelphia. 777 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 1: Philadelphia like they players like, man, we should have helped 778 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:39,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I don't think so. Washington like, we gotta 779 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: do this to keep the Cowboys out. Yes, let's go. 780 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I hate it when it's 781 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,919 Speaker 1: about all within your conference. I hate that. I'd rather 782 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: for it to be an AFC team. I gotta depend 783 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: on m well, fellas, we are out of time and 784 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: I just want to questions, man for questions. Just take 785 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 1: a vote. Man to be shunning a Kurt leading this deal, Kurt, 786 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 1: Kurt Shanna can talk more. If he talked more, you 787 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: don't get to talk more. That's fine. I watch I 788 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: like watching y'all boss. I enjoyed watching shut Up perfectly. 789 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 1: I mean we kept talking time, Nate, something crazy get mine? 790 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: They gets us ten dollars either way talking or no talking. Hey, 791 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: I want I want to say you know what I was. 792 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: I expressed how proud I was at Jesse for what 793 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: he did for those kids year two ago. And I 794 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: just want to say how proud I am of you, Nate, 795 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: that you made it all the way through this show 796 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: without saying the red word, because you were so I'll 797 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: say you were son say Washington, you were so nervous 798 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: say that yesterday on this show. You were so nervous 799 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: on and off the air about saying the R word, 800 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: and you did so good because you said, Hey, I'm 801 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and I'm gonna preapologize. And you know, 802 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna mess this up. I've been saying 803 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: this my whole life because that's the team I grew up, 804 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: you know, rooting against hating, played for all of this. 805 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: So it's gonna probably slip out, So I apologize. You 806 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,879 Speaker 1: made it all the way through the show yesterday, made 807 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: it through the show today. But last night we were 808 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: on cross Talk on the flagship station, and Natan lets 809 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: it slip out twice, back to back, bam bamn, and 810 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, so I'm proud of you day, 811 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm proud of you for making it through today. So good. 812 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: Just not talking about that other team at all. Okay, 813 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,280 Speaker 1: we won't even bring them up. We'll just be Eagles 814 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: fans for this week. I leave. That pains me to say, 815 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 1: but we gotta do it. We gotta root for him 816 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: between for the Broadstreet bullets. Nate good seeing your Kurt, 817 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: good singy, good stuff, Jesse, great opinions. Let's do it 818 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 1: again tomorrow time, same place tomorrow, Hay with the boys, 819 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: see you there. This has been a production of Dallas 820 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.