1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: We have this tool that is so magical, it's the 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: most profound tool, better than any medicine out there, and 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: we forget to use it. It's the breath. 4 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: Hey, Hurdlers, Emily ABOUDI here bringing you another installment of 5 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: Hurdle moment from Hurdle. Today on the show, I wanted 6 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: to compliment the episode that came out on Monday with 7 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: doctor Michael Gervai. He is a high performance psychologist. If 8 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: you happen to lie listening to these out of order, 9 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: I highly highly recommend that you head on over to 10 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: episode one fifty one and give that a listen. Doctor 11 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: Java talked about the power of our breath and how 12 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: breathwork can make a major difference when it comes to 13 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: how we perform, how we show up, and how we 14 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: execute at some of the hardest moments, and so I 15 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: felt it appropriate to bring in a breathwork expert to 16 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: chat about the practice today, and that expert is Joy Duche. 17 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: As I mentioned, Joy is a breathwork expert. She's also 18 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: a spiritual and holistic life a guide, an intuitive energy healer, 19 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: and she is a fellow podcast host of the Methodology podcast. 20 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 2: In today's episode, we unpack what breath work is how 21 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: breathwork is different than meditation, and she offers up a 22 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: few different examples of what this might look like in 23 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: your routine, as well as highlights the benefits of the 24 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: practice how it can dramatically impact everything from your anxiety 25 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: to how you even experience pain in your body. 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It's at Emily a Body And 62 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: if you haven't signed up yet and you want to 63 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: come join us for the April book Club, we would 64 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: love to have you. We are reading the The Art 65 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: of Gathering. The link to sign up is in the 66 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: show notes. With that, let's get to hurdling today. I 67 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: am sitting down with Joy Duchet. She is a spiritual 68 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: and holistic life guide, an intuitive energy healer, a breathwork facilitator, 69 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: and also host of the Methodology podcast. How are you 70 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: doing today, Joy. 71 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm doing great. Thank you, Emily. It's great to be 72 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: here with you. 73 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on today. We are 74 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: going to talk about a topic that I feel as 75 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: though is definitely getting more buzzy, especially as we're all 76 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: spending more time at home and trying to just find 77 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: some calm. We're talking about breath work. I'd love to 78 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: know from the get go, how did you get involved 79 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: with the practice of breath work and becoming a breathwork facilitator. 80 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: It's been a journey of a long amount of healing 81 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: and seeking, seeking first for myself, my own personal healing 82 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: and then sharing you know the magic of what was 83 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: happening for me with others and bringing that into my 84 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: coaching practice. So one day I just almost accidentally found 85 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: this breathwork, what I call the alchemical breath work, that 86 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: literally was life changing for me. And I had the 87 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: most wild, you know, unexpected experience of like dramatic healing 88 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: in that one session that changed everything for me after 89 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: twenty years of seeking different modalities to heal PTSD post 90 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: traumatic stress disorder and limiting you know, emotional pain that 91 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,679 Speaker 1: I just couldn't and nothing else could really breathe until 92 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: I found this breath work. 93 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: Interesting, So what was going on on this particular day 94 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 2: that led you to finding this practice? 95 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question. So I was on this 96 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: self designed healing retreat that I created for myself in California. 97 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: I left New York as I was experiencing this awakening, 98 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: the spiritual awakening, so to speak, and I was just 99 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: seeking different modalities, and so I was doing lots of 100 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: research and I put a whole list of different you know, 101 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: healing modalities and immersions together in this week and a half, 102 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: and somewhere I found something about breath work, and I 103 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: just you know, read the little paragraph the description, and 104 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: I showed up to the woman's house that was offering, 105 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: uh this this healing modality. And so it was out 106 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: an echo park in California, and I get to her 107 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: house very non assuming, you know, very simple. I lie 108 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: down on her living room floor and I, you know, 109 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: she plays some music for me and light some incense 110 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: and this, you know, just the sense and everything to 111 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, really allowed me to have this space for healing. 112 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: And and then I just don't know, I felt like 113 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: I really left my body in a way and started 114 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,559 Speaker 1: to experience like euphoria in that session at the same 115 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: time that I was like purging so much emotional pain 116 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: and grief and time escaped me. It was like I 117 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: just literally left like the world that I've always like 118 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: lived in and experienced different dimensions and euphoria, as I said. 119 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: And then the session was over and I was just 120 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: completely like in shock, Like I was like, what just happened? 121 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: You know? And it took me a few days to 122 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: kind of like come down and come back to earth 123 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: and come back into my body. But then I continued 124 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: with that with Michelle, who's my She was my breathwork 125 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: coach for about seven months continuously, and I was having radical, 126 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: radical like life changing healing throughout that experience, and so 127 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: I then felt the need to go out and you know, 128 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: do the training for myself. So I would travel from 129 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: New York to LA with my teacher David Elliott and 130 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: completed the you know, practitioner training. Then I started to 131 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: bring it into my own practice, and I found that 132 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: it was the most potent modality. Along with the coaching 133 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: and intuitive therapies and reiki and everything, the breath is 134 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: the vehicle really that gets us there. 135 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: Interesting, So I think a lot of people they hear 136 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 2: this story and maybe whether it is with breath work 137 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: or with meditation, they could have some hesitancy about approaching 138 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: or going through the same type of journey. For someone 139 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: who may be a skeptic, how would you suggest that 140 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 2: they get out of their own way, so to speak, 141 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 2: to unlock a practice such as this. 142 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: So let me just give you a little bit of 143 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: a backstory. So I started with a passive meditation. I'm 144 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: calling it passive because the breathwork that I'm talking about 145 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: is a more active way of reading that helps us 146 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: to leave our controlling conscious mind. Because our conscious mind 147 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: the thought forms is what does hald us back from 148 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: lots of freedom in our life and love because of 149 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: the limiting beliefs that control our mind that we have stored. 150 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: And you know, it's the busy, very very busy the 151 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: mind that you know, is accumulation of all the years 152 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: of conditioning and programming and parenting and bullying and all 153 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: the stuff that has not allowed us to access that healing. Right. 154 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: But years before that, years before that, I started to meditate, 155 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: and meditation really changed my life too. I mean it 156 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: was really the segue to quiet the mind and to 157 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: come to a more relaxed way of living. It got 158 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: me out of an anxious, severely anxious body and mind 159 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: and very you know, gripping and actually crippling life. And 160 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: so when I started to find mindful meditation and the 161 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: diaphragmatic breath, which is simply just breathing. For me, it's 162 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: like breathing through the nostrils and exhaling through the mouth 163 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: probably four counts in holding for two at the top 164 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: and then four out through the mouth and then deflating 165 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: the belly back. So when I started to practice that, 166 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: that started to quiet my mind and allowed me for 167 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: a lot more ease and peace in my life, a 168 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: more flexible brain, a more spontaneous and flexible way of living. 169 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: When I found breath work, which is the active breath 170 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: work that I'm sharing with you, it's the alchemy that 171 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: helps us to move stored energy in the body. It 172 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: helps us to get rid of lots of fears, lots 173 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: of things that hold us back from love and really 174 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: an open heart. So they're very different from each other, 175 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: and I want to just put a point on that 176 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: because it's you know, breathwork can sound like it's just 177 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: a linear but it's not. It's a very dimensional. It's 178 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: like saying fitness. You know, there's many different ways of 179 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: working out right, There's all like there's cardio, there's frend training, 180 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: there is pilates, and so breath work can seem like 181 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,599 Speaker 1: a very broad term. So I want to differentiate that 182 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: that one is the meditation that's passive, and the other 183 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: is the active, really radical way of breathing. Now one 184 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: doesn't really need to, you know, take such an aggressive approach. 185 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: When I'm talking about the passive breathing, that's the mindful breathing. 186 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: That's what I do. The first thing that I do 187 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: when I wake up to quiet the busy mind, you know, 188 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: the mind that's like already thinking about but all the 189 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: things that we have to do in a day and 190 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: the overwhelm and just taking a few moments to just 191 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: breathe into your body quiet and you know, silence the 192 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: noise now, you know. I mean, I'm sure you know 193 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: that when we with all that we have going on 194 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: in our lives and all the uncertainty right now, it 195 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: you know, we bubble up all this like emotion, right 196 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: and then all the years of stagnation and stagnant energy 197 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: that we've you know, allowed to accumulate, we kind of 198 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: need to do. Like you know, it's like like I'm sorry, 199 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: but which is the first thing that came to me 200 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: is like getting a colonic or like you know, just 201 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: cleaning out the pipes. And that's how I think the 202 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: breath work, the al chemical breath work serves. It's like, 203 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: you know, every maybe you're not doing it every single day, 204 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: maybe you're doing it once a week, maybe you're doing 205 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: it once every ten days, but it's a really really 206 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: healthy way to purify, to cleanse, and to keep opening 207 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: and clearing your energy and removing all that stagnation. 208 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: So give me an example then of what active breathwork 209 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 2: would look like. 210 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, great, okay, So the way that I facilitate breath work, 211 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: Let's say we're doing a one on one session. Usually 212 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: what happens is a person my client, will come in 213 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: and we just start to uncover the conscious material that 214 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: they're aware of, things that you know, they're struggling with, 215 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: any intentions that they have, anything that they're aware of, 216 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: and so there's just thought provoking, intuitive therapy talk and 217 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: then that's for about WELDDA for about you know, thirty minutes, 218 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: twenty to thirty minutes, and then the actual breathing part 219 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: portion will be for about in its entirety forty five 220 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: minutes from grounding grounding them on a massage table with 221 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: a BioMed and so on and evocative music, and then 222 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: we'll start the active breathing for that portion, it'll probably 223 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: be around thirty minutes, and then there's just some like 224 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: sound healing just to restore the way that we do 225 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: this Pranayama called it. Pranayama is we're breathing in a 226 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: three part breath, So you're breathing in from your lower belly, 227 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: from the mouth, in from the high chest from your heart, 228 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: again from your mouth and then exhaling through your mouth 229 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: in a nice circular rhythm. So it's breathing in, breathing in, 230 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: breathing out. So you hear how it's nice and circular. 231 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: There's no stopping at the top or the bottom. It's 232 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: almost like you're at a cardio class with your breath. 233 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: And so what happens now is this rhythm of breathing 234 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: allows us to leave the conscious mind, gets us enter 235 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: our bodies, and we start to really get into it 236 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: and we start to feel like, you know, some vibration. 237 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: We can feel like tingling in the hands. And what's 238 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: happening is now we're moving that energy and we can 239 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: feel like some tingling and all that's all connected to 240 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: your heart meridian. And so we're awakening the heart. We're 241 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: opening up the heart, and we're allowing the lower vibrational 242 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: stored energy to move and to kind of like leave 243 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: the body somatically. 244 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: In this process. How long would you go through with 245 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: that circular breathing anywhere between seven minutes to about forty 246 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: five minutes that is, you know, it's a range. It 247 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: depends on what type of session it is for people. 248 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: That are really feeling like very stuck, dense energy and 249 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: they just need to get things moving. Doing it for 250 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: seven minutes will definitely have a wonderful benefit. So just 251 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: lying on the ground, the ideas that you need to 252 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: lie down completely flat, with your head flat and the 253 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: same line as your belly and your heart, so you 254 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: don't want to prop your head up. We need to 255 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: get a full flow of breath from the lower chakras 256 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: through the heart to the brain and moving it out 257 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: through the mouth. And for someone that's going to do 258 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: this for a longer period of time, I mean, of course, 259 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: I know that the focus is really on the process 260 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: of what is going on, but I would assume that, 261 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: especially if you're newer to the practice, that your mind 262 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: might wander. For someone who experiences that, what would you 263 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: tell them. 264 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: The thing that's really most important to get the best 265 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: benefit is to really give yourself the permission to let 266 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: go of the conscious mind as much as you can, 267 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: so focusing on your breath. If your mind wanders, I mean, 268 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: it's kind of like the point to leave your mind 269 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: in a way, because you're trying to get out of 270 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: the conscious mind and to experience these different altered states 271 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: of consciousness. Right, we're pulling up from the subconscious. But 272 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: you don't want to fall asleep and not breathe, right, 273 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: So if you can just give yourself those signals like 274 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: just remember to breathe, remember in and out all through 275 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: the mouth. 276 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 2: You mentioned how much this practice helped you deal with 277 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: and process trauma. What would you highlight to be some 278 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: of the other benefits of a regular breathwork practice. 279 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, so. What happens is that we are activating 280 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: the heart and we're opening up our heart through this practice. 281 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: It's why we're breathing in first from the lower bellies 282 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: is where we store lots of lower emotions like shame, guilt, fear, doubt, 283 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: low self worth, and then we're moving the breath through 284 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: the heart meridian. And what happens is we get to 285 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: experience like this beautiful, hard opening. Many people will feel 286 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: like just like the surge of compassion and empathy and 287 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: love and gratitude as when they get into it like 288 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: mid mid session. And so you know, what we're doing 289 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: is we're really activating self love and a deeper connection 290 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: with our soul here, because the soul is the all 291 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: loving and all knowing part of us. We also activate 292 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: our intuition so we can experience lots of clarity and 293 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: more clarity in our lives where we can feel foggy. 294 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: It helps us to diminish addictive behaviors and repetitive destructive patterns. 295 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: It really helps us to build our immunity again too, 296 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: because it purifies the blood as well. This circular way 297 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: of oxygenating the blood as well, it helps us with 298 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: anxiety and removing fears. The list is like really endless. 299 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: It balances our chakras. You feel so much lighter and 300 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: you feel less. You know, if you're if you're invested 301 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: in this and you are like there's a part of 302 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: you that needs to believe in it, Like if you're 303 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: a complete skeptic. I mean I've seen complete skeptics have 304 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: mind blowing results as well. But when you start to 305 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: like surrender to it, it's just wild because the amount 306 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: of like love, energy and more heart centric way of 307 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: moving through the world just arts to take over and 308 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: it's just so lovely. 309 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: And I know that you mentioned that meditation was also 310 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: something that played a big role for you, that really 311 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 2: helped you. For someone who is having a little bit 312 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: of difficulty, maybe really understanding the difference between a meditative 313 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 2: practice and a breath work practice. What would you really 314 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 2: tell them? 315 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like I said before, so one is more 316 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: passive and is a way that for me, like I 317 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: call it my spiritual immunity. It's like the way that 318 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: I take care of my soul on a daily like 319 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: it's the way that I'm taking care of like my mind, body, 320 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: spirit every single day. Is just taking moments to sit 321 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: down and just quiet the mind and just breathe into 322 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: my body and move some of that noise that's in 323 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: my brain. And so what I'm doing is I'm just 324 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: sitting up right. I mean, you can do it lying 325 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: down too, but I like to sit with you know, 326 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: my feet my souls and my feet touching the ground 327 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: for grounding and centering. And then I'm just going to 328 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: breathe with four inhalations as I expand my belly, like 329 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: balloon the belly outwards so you get a much fuller breath. 330 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: The diaphegmatic breath is the most efficient way of breathing, 331 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: So inhaling through the nostrils, ballooning the belly outward for 332 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: four counts, and then I'm holding at the top just 333 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: a nice little pause for two counts, and then exhaling 334 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: through the mouth as you deflate the belly back towards 335 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: the spine for four counts, just repeating that. What you 336 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: do is you're calming your central nervous system. You're bringing 337 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: yourself to a state of ease. You're coming back to 338 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: the present moment. Right now, we're just all like experiencing there. 339 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody on the planet is exempt from 340 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: feeling some worries, some you know, uncertainty that's taking us 341 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: away from the present moment. And we need to regulate that. 342 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: You know, we have to have some kind of practice. 343 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: And we have this tool that is so magical, it's 344 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: the most profound tool, better than any medicine out there, 345 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: and we forget to use it. It's the breath. So 346 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: even in like a stressful moment, if you can just 347 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: take a moment, you know, to step away and just 348 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: utilize your breath and take a deep breath and just 349 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: you know, relax and realize how powerful that can be. 350 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: And so imagine if we just take a few moments 351 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: a day to do that. So I don't think that 352 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: they are they don't compete with each other. There are 353 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: different forms of healing. 354 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 2: The last question I really have for you is I 355 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 2: know that through research there are different types of breath work. 356 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: You gave us a few different examples of ways that 357 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: we can implement it into our every day whether it 358 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: is like how you just mentioned with just deep inhales 359 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: and exiles, or perhaps that more regimented version that you 360 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: gave us before. For a beginner sort of speak, would 361 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: you say that there is a best strategy or is 362 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: the best strategy just finding a way to implement breathwork 363 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: into your routine regularly. 364 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: So what I recommend is for a complete beginner is 365 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: just take five breaths, just as I just explained, just 366 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: inhale for your nostrils, and you know, if you can 367 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: bring your belly into like a pregnant belly, but lun 368 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: it out as you're inhaling, hold at the top and 369 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: then exhale out. Just do that for five counts. Like, 370 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: just do five of those breaths, and that's a great 371 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: starting point. 372 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: Okay, great starting point and great tidbits of advice from you. 373 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 2: I'm curious as we close this out today, if you 374 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 2: had to offer yourself one piece of advice when you 375 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: began your breath work journey. What would that be? 376 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: Mmm? Uh, I love There's a there's a book that 377 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: I love. It's called Letting Go by David Hawkins. And 378 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 1: if I was able to just use my breath and 379 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: let go like little by little, you know, I just 380 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: feel like it would have been just so powerful from 381 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: back then. And that's something that has been such a 382 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: beautiful alchemy for me today. So if I would have 383 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: known that back then, that would have been wonderful. 384 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us today, joy and 385 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: fulfilling me in all about the benefits of breath work. 386 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: How can the hurdlers keep up with you? How can 387 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: they follow along with you? Give me your details? 388 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much. This has been so fun. 389 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: So I'm joy Duche and my website is the Joyful 390 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: Approach dot com. I'm on Instagram under the Joyful Approach 391 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: and that's probably the best way to reach me. 392 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: Amazing. I am over at Emily Abodi and at Hurdle Podcast. 393 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 2: Another Hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.