Speaker 1: Cut booms.
Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes
Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants
Speaker 2: of the old Republic, a sole fastion of fairness. He
Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the
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Speaker 2: of hot takes, break free for something special. The Fifth
Speaker 2: Hour with Ben Maller starts right now, in the air.
Speaker 3: Everywhere, The Fifth Hour with me, big man, and in
Speaker 3: the chair right there everywhere, we say hello to Alex
Speaker 3: the vegan in for Danergy on a much deserved hiatus
Speaker 3: gap vacation.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you throw.
Speaker 3: It, the whole thing, Yeah, the whole shebang as maybe
Speaker 3: Danny's away celebrating International Chess Day. Oh yeah, big holiday
Speaker 3: today on this Saturday, International Chess.
Speaker 1: It's Moonday to day. Oh you're a fan of the moon.
Speaker 4: I love the moon, Ben, Yeah, you think there's anything
Speaker 4: on the moon. Oh, I have a great conspiracy about
Speaker 4: the moon. If you want it, you do, I love
Speaker 4: to hear it. Okay, what do you have? I'll sum
Speaker 4: it up quickly for you. It's not a rock. It's
Speaker 4: a futuristic teachonological spaceship that's created to totally enamorly distort
Speaker 4: everything from women's cycles. That's what causes all of it
Speaker 4: to just the whole concept of when you die, that's
Speaker 4: the light you see at the end of the tunnel,
Speaker 4: and they suck in your soul to take in all
Speaker 4: of the energy and life force and stress and doubt
Speaker 4: and fear you've had and then shove you back into
Speaker 4: a human container and continue the cycle till you break it.
Speaker 1: How about that? What kind of mushroom? What kind of
Speaker 1: mushroom pizza? Are you having?
Speaker 2: This?
Speaker 1: Zero at the moment?
Speaker 2: Zero?
Speaker 4: But I just that was something I got lost in.
Speaker 4: It was a great concept. That sounds like something.
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers would say after he came back from an
Speaker 3: aahuasca retreat out somewhere in forest far for you. Have
Speaker 3: you been on an ayahuasca retreat?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: The most not done? No, The most I have done
Speaker 4: is mushrooms like psychedelic and done. Like have you heard
Speaker 4: of that? Okay, here's another thing, Ben that trips me out.
Speaker 4: There's actually something called a heroic dose for a mushroom intake,
Speaker 4: which means you do over five grands of mushroom, which
Speaker 4: means you are no longer sentient in your own ability.
Speaker 4: You are in another world for at least four or
Speaker 4: five hours, and when you come back you're lucky to
Speaker 4: remember anything. It sounds insane to me. I don't know
Speaker 4: if I have the courage to do that, but I
Speaker 4: have done enough to have a psychedelic experience, and it
Speaker 4: has been definitely one of those that opened your mind
Speaker 4: of the perspective you're more than Ego etca in the world.
Speaker 4: There's so much going on. That's why I said I
Speaker 4: had a fun one for the moon.
Speaker 3: For you is that like Men in Black types almost
Speaker 3: where the neuralizer like, yeah, take the right mushroom, yeahs,
Speaker 3: and then you forget everything.
Speaker 4: Oh it's crazy because it takes you to a sense
Speaker 4: which I never experienced before. That's why I think it
Speaker 4: was such an enamoring experience, as that it makes you
Speaker 4: see that what you see is not all there is.
Speaker 4: And I looked into it because I was so fascinated.
Speaker 4: I was like, am I just like technically tripping? Or
Speaker 4: is there more? And then you look into the light
Speaker 4: spectrum of your eyes and how minimal it you're hearing,
Speaker 4: and how it's so small and that way it shows
Speaker 4: you like for a brief moment, it's kind of like cheating,
Speaker 4: you get a little bit more of an open experience
Speaker 4: to show you there's a lot more than physical And
Speaker 4: that's why I personally I have just been enamored with it,
Speaker 4: and that's what kind of led to the whole moon
Speaker 4: topic for you too.
Speaker 3: So wow, this is a wild podcast and we're gonna
Speaker 3: break a record for downloads.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 3: I saw a man, Alex the Vegan, living in a
Speaker 3: parallel world that we're all. I mean, one is going
Speaker 3: on here, my god, like a parallel to mensic like
Speaker 3: the Twilight Yes, right, yes, it was that a base
Speaker 3: people thought the Twilight Zone was not it was.
Speaker 1: It was fiction, but it was non fixed.
Speaker 4: I don't believe it at all, man, Yeah, I think
Speaker 4: there's so much more truth to things that are always
Speaker 4: showed to us. Because here's my concept, right, Ben, Like,
Speaker 4: tell me this, how is it? Like we as human
Speaker 4: beings can make up something out of nothing? Isn't that impossible?
Speaker 4: Like I just came back from going to get my
Speaker 4: tire fixed, right, So you can't just take nothing and
Speaker 4: create a tire or walk into a gym and just
Speaker 4: there's a machine. Somebody took minerals, metals, whatever it is
Speaker 4: to make it. So I don't believe somebody in the
Speaker 4: eighteen hundreds or before Christ and it's like back in
Speaker 4: a de or b C. Whatever, I don't believe somebody
Speaker 4: was out in the fields Bend with just like these
Speaker 4: old school the sights and cutting just wheat fields, and
Speaker 4: then they just like, oh dragons, Like somebody had to
Speaker 4: physically see these things. How do you just make up
Speaker 4: giants and dragons? Like it doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 4: It's just like we were talking about on yesterday show
Speaker 4: about red box and streaming, Like somebody starts the idea
Speaker 4: and then it evolves the iPhone. Somebody started the first
Speaker 4: phone and evolved into the rest.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Like I just have a hard time believing dragons or
Speaker 4: giants or things weren't real in some aspect of life.
Speaker 1: I'm just I stand on are all right?
Speaker 3: Well, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna jump in
Speaker 3: and do a belly whopper since we're doing like a
Speaker 3: coast to coast type podcast. So my theory is that
Speaker 3: the Roswell alien crash is what led to the advancements
Speaker 3: in modern technology. If you look at what has happened
Speaker 3: since then, Like I look at the iPhone, I think.
Speaker 1: The iPhone was alien technology.
Speaker 3: They use something like reversed engineered alien technology that they
Speaker 3: were able to figure out things from that found Roswell incident.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure there have been others that we don't
Speaker 3: know about. I know I watched the documentary in Europe.
Speaker 3: It was supposedly there Roswell that happened over in Europe.
Speaker 3: But do I have to be Rod Serling here? You're
Speaker 3: traveling through another dimension, dimension not only of sight and sound,
Speaker 3: but of mine, a journey into a wondrous lay and
Speaker 3: where boundaries are that of imagination that sign posts up
Speaker 3: ahead your next stop, the Twilight.
Speaker 4: Well done, thank you, Ben. I believe you're not only
Speaker 4: accurate on that. I have a theory that they have
Speaker 4: met before whatever it is, and they exchange made some
Speaker 4: kind of like contractual obligation or treaty amongst each other,
Speaker 4: where they said, we'll give you information, you let us
Speaker 4: study human beings or whatever it is and make this
Speaker 4: like our observatory or ant farm. Who knows, dude, it's incredible.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, the follow up on that, since we're going down
Speaker 3: a highway, which is more like like a back alley.
Speaker 1: But that's fine. I love that.
Speaker 3: So we mentioned at the end of if I remember
Speaker 3: we mentioned we mentioned the end of yesterday's podcast. We
Speaker 3: talked about the fact that in the ocean and what's
Speaker 3: out there the world and all that, Like when I
Speaker 3: was flying over the Pacific and all you when you
Speaker 3: look down, all you see is the ocean.
Speaker 1: There's nothing far you can see right, just water.
Speaker 3: And I imagine that we don't know what's at the
Speaker 3: bottom out We haven't gone over the entire ocean, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They know a lot, but they don't know that.
Speaker 3: But the ocean is so large, and it's so deep
Speaker 3: in some places that humans can't go down there.
Speaker 1: To me, there's all kinds of.
Speaker 3: Wild things at the bottom of the other Like I
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised. I'll go off the deep end here.
Speaker 3: But this whole a lot of the aliens that we're seeing,
Speaker 3: What if it's another subspecies?
Speaker 1: How about this one?
Speaker 3: Yes, alex is living out in the ocean and they
Speaker 3: have a portal and they come out, Yes, of the ocean,
Speaker 3: in the middle of the ocean. Who would ever know nobody, right,
Speaker 3: and maybe some guys on a boat from China to
Speaker 3: the US or vice versa. But those people will be like, oh,
Speaker 3: they would be dismissed.
Speaker 1: All the time. What do you know? You know you're
Speaker 1: drunk men.
Speaker 4: I agree completely with you because explain to me why
Speaker 4: NASA started as an oceanography exploration company and within two
Speaker 4: years the government said yep, nope, you're going up and
Speaker 4: totally remove them. So we don't know anything. They've just
Speaker 4: recently came out and said, oh yeah, under this first
Speaker 4: layer crust of the Earth, there's an ocean three times
Speaker 4: the size of our ocean underneath the crust of our ocean.
Speaker 1: It's like, what are you just making up shit?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 4: Like it's it's crazy to me that there's so much
Speaker 4: that is not understood. I agree with you ten thousand
Speaker 4: percent because the only reason we're told we can't go
Speaker 4: down is pounds of pressure perforce of this quote unquote
Speaker 4: gravity and the just velocity of the water and how
Speaker 4: much it comprises you.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: I have a theory that if you're able to negate
Speaker 4: that with some type of futuristic technology and you could
Speaker 4: counter the pounds of pressure perforce going down, I have
Speaker 4: no doubt in my mind men like you said, I
Speaker 4: don't think space is up. I think it's down. I
Speaker 4: think if you're trying to find a way out or
Speaker 4: see about futuristic societies, atlanteans, aliens mirm people whatever, it's
Speaker 4: below us one thousand percent because nobody ever talks about
Speaker 4: it or goes. And if you have, like somebody who's
Speaker 4: in a submarine or et cetera, you're limited. You could
Speaker 4: only go so far. So think about it. That's how
Speaker 4: we are always stuck. And then you remember that story
Speaker 4: Ben right, the millionaire billionaire died in that submarine bioll
Speaker 4: Titanic or what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I have.
Speaker 4: A theory that that was a completely conforted thing just
Speaker 4: to keep people out of the ocean. Truly, I don't
Speaker 4: think that was real in any aspect. Yes, I think
Speaker 4: maybe he got onto something found maybe a portal or
Speaker 4: some doorway to get out, and he basically chased it,
Speaker 4: and maybe it was attacked by something like a guardian
Speaker 4: like I don't know if you've ever seen the old
Speaker 4: school Disney movie Atlantis, but there's this whole scene in
Speaker 4: the beginning when they're Milo and his whole adventure group
Speaker 4: they're trying to go into Atlantis. There's this ancient guardian
Speaker 4: beast that just defends the portal. I have no doubt, Ben,
Speaker 4: there could be something like that, and basically just DROI
Speaker 4: is anybody who's not supposed to be there?
Speaker 1: Who knows? Now it's also as we're going deep into this, Yes,
Speaker 1: now we get fully. I want to get fully into it,
Speaker 1: shoot it fully into it. Uh? Is it true you're
Speaker 1: not allowed? Is it the South Pole or the North Pole?
Speaker 1: Now you're getting there a South poole, So it's the
Speaker 1: South Poole.
Speaker 4: So tell me this, Ben, tell me why in our
Speaker 4: entire existence, your life and mind and everything before us
Speaker 4: When Admiral Byrd went in his early exploration of the
Speaker 4: South Pole and came back journaling after months of exploration saying, oh,
Speaker 4: out there is land that we've never been to the
Speaker 4: size of the Americas and has flourishing land inside of
Speaker 4: this ice hole he went to was an entire ecosystem
Speaker 4: jungle of a futuristic society. He talked to all of
Speaker 4: this stuff right, went on radio interviews, et cetera. And
Speaker 4: then months later he went back with the government for
Speaker 4: this exploration and then came back and then this is
Speaker 4: the first time in human history every country signed a
Speaker 4: treaty saying nobody goes out there explain that how is
Speaker 4: it we can't agree on ship back, but that we did.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Oh, I mean, I know.
Speaker 3: There's all kinds of theories on the internet that there's
Speaker 3: like an ancient race of oh the super beings that
Speaker 3: live there, there's some kind of pyramid type situation.
Speaker 1: Or have this one, Ben? Have you heard of the
Speaker 1: ice wall theory?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: Oh boy, I need some mushroom.
Speaker 4: Where is that? Just long story short, it's said that
Speaker 4: we live basically within a container, and that's why water
Speaker 4: always has a level. So that's why it's called sea level.
Speaker 4: So anywhere you go, if you go directly south of
Speaker 4: anywhere you are into the water, you will eventually hit
Speaker 4: an ice wall. And so that was created to contain
Speaker 4: the entirety of our world that we're supposed to be
Speaker 4: in and outside of that is off limits. Basically, that's
Speaker 4: the land we're not allowed to go to. So it's
Speaker 4: protected by government et cetera, deep organizations, and it's supposed
Speaker 4: to contain us in this place called like a prison planet.
Speaker 4: And so that's why it's off limits, et cetera. The
Speaker 4: whole compass is off with longitude and latitude, and the
Speaker 4: North Pole is more so the center of our equator
Speaker 4: where there's so much magnetic force there. It's like an
Speaker 4: actual it's supposed to suck into the ground. It's incredible,
Speaker 4: and they touch on that concept and stranger things, the
Speaker 4: upside down, and so it's such a fascinating theory, even
Speaker 4: like with Red Hot Chili Peppers talking about the black
Speaker 4: Sun at the center of the Earth that contains all
Speaker 4: of our magnetic force. It's like it's such a grand
Speaker 4: interesting concept because again, these are things never talked about,
Speaker 4: and it's impossible for anybody normal to go there because
Speaker 4: again you'd need millions of dollars to do it. And
Speaker 4: even if you do, it's sanctioned and regulated, and a
Speaker 4: massive battleship will pull on you before you even get
Speaker 4: there and say, yeah, you gotta turn around.
Speaker 1: You'll be eliminated. If you go there, you'll be a yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you'll be eliminated.
Speaker 3: Fascinating concept. All right, let's talk Area fifty Area fifty one. Yes,
Speaker 3: any thoughts on Area fifty one, Nevada Desert. We're going
Speaker 3: deep into this. You're you're listening to a Coast to Coast,
Speaker 3: the fifth hour podcast the Coast. This is gonna be
Speaker 3: my audition when I try to fill in for George
Speaker 3: Nori over at Coast to Coast. Maybe I'll do the
Speaker 3: weekend Coast to Coast. This is what I'm going to.
Speaker 1: Send them right now as we go fully off the
Speaker 1: rails like that. I love the air. Are you fifty one? Stuff? Now?
Speaker 1: My favorite alien? I don't know if this is my family,
Speaker 1: this is the one I remember right now.
Speaker 3: Okay, go for alien flyover in Arizona years ago when
Speaker 3: a giant spaceship flew over the.
Speaker 1: Valley in Phoenix. Okay, made a few.
Speaker 3: Documentaries about it, but nobody seems to Nobody can explain
Speaker 3: what it was, where it went, and there's video, but
Speaker 3: of course everything's at night, and it's like the old
Speaker 3: old cameras are not that good, etc.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Wow, well, Bensy, that's a fascinating concept, because do you
Speaker 4: remember the recent thing that happened in Florida where like
Speaker 4: an entire mall got shut down and they had like
Speaker 4: hundreds of police officers there FBI agents and they basically
Speaker 4: said that there was like a shooting quote unquote, but
Speaker 4: everybody that was their first person account said, these massive
Speaker 4: black beings that were like ten feet tall just appeared
Speaker 4: in the middle of the mall, and everybody freaked the
Speaker 4: f out. Did you hear about that in Florida? It
Speaker 4: was like last year or the beginning of this year. No,
Speaker 4: this is not wrong, look it up. The craziest part
Speaker 4: is there were so many people and they brushed everything
Speaker 4: that said they took videos of it. There were these
Speaker 4: three massive beings. They had no idea, they've never seen it.
Speaker 4: They look like quote unquote, like an alien would be
Speaker 4: or some kind of humanoid. And the craziest part is
Speaker 4: that as soon as that popped off and everything, nobody
Speaker 4: had video evidence of it at all. And the theory
Speaker 4: is that everybody in that vicinity or in that area
Speaker 4: had their phones wiped instantly because their Internet up capability
Speaker 4: of just going into phones and wiping anything from that
Speaker 4: time date, which is crazy to think about, because then
Speaker 4: it goes to area fifty one, like you saying, in
Speaker 4: my belief, I think that truly is more so like
Speaker 4: a public distraction, like they just want it to look
Speaker 4: like it's something that it isn't because the true things
Speaker 4: are hidden all around us.
Speaker 1: I believe in plain sight.
Speaker 4: So it could be like a base in la that's
Speaker 4: just hidden in a normal building like Men in Black
Speaker 4: kind of concept.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's my theory. Is that's your theory.
Speaker 4: I think it's just a public thing of like a landmark,
Speaker 4: you know, so like you go to Paris in the
Speaker 4: Eiffel Tower or any I think I read. Yes, I
Speaker 4: think it's something to distract people because I think the
Speaker 4: true nature of the stuff going on, like we talked about,
Speaker 4: is the sea or all around us and these alien
Speaker 4: experiences and any of these things that we've had that
Speaker 4: has been like the fifth or what's it called the
Speaker 4: fourth kind the fourth encounter where it's like people adduction
Speaker 4: and stuff like that abduction. It's fascinating to me because
Speaker 4: it makes it more so of a concept that are
Speaker 4: these things really physical? Are they more like spiritual beings
Speaker 4: like in the sense more so out of our physical premise?
Speaker 4: So if that is possible, though, it's possible that e
Speaker 4: t was based on a true story.
Speaker 1: Ooh, that's ct the old movie back in the day.
Speaker 4: It could be because I actually think and Men in
Speaker 4: Black is more of a like a documentary of things
Speaker 4: that actually happen around them. Oh this thing about you
Speaker 4: know how just explained how they could erase everybody's phone
Speaker 4: instantly and take any document proof. Because somebody actually put
Speaker 4: the coordinates in Ben, and this trips me the f out.
Speaker 4: They put the coordinates where they said the Florida thing
Speaker 4: was seen at the mall and reversed it and it
Speaker 4: takes you to Antarctica. So people's theories were like, what
Speaker 4: if they just messed up the coordinates and they popped
Speaker 4: up there. It's an interesting theory that is pretty yeah,
Speaker 4: pretty wild. Look at human you're bringing you're bringing the
Speaker 4: heat here. Oh, Ben, send us the coast to coast.
Speaker 4: I would love to be your co host. Let's do this.
Speaker 1: Oh we would be we would dominate. I would love it.
Speaker 4: Chemtrails come on, okay, micro micro metals, microplastics, carbon fiber distillery,
Speaker 4: and it's also filled with different things that are distorting
Speaker 4: your estrogen boost, your testosterone boost, and the main focus
Speaker 4: of it is to increase the fluoride concentration that calcifies
Speaker 4: their penial gland, which is supposed to cut off your
Speaker 4: antenna from higher frequency and for freedom of thought, my.
Speaker 1: Head is spinning. This is wildlievable. All right? How about this.
Speaker 1: There's a survey in Russia, all right.
Speaker 3: That talks about their experience with aliens or whatever.
Speaker 1: They pulled the over one hundred thousand people, and among those.
Speaker 3: Findings, they found that seventy nine percent of those that
Speaker 3: participated express they believe that there wasn't existence of aliens. Right,
Speaker 3: seventy one percent of people in Russia. Now do you
Speaker 3: think if you did that same survey in America, would
Speaker 3: it be higher or lower than seventy one percent.
Speaker 4: I'd say lower because of how much we're relying on
Speaker 4: social media here. I think a lot of people, Yes,
Speaker 4: I would think so, because also the religious following in
Speaker 4: this country. I think a lot of people who experience
Speaker 4: demonic possession are just things from outside of our perception
Speaker 4: of alien interaction or something being attuned to something that
Speaker 4: is outside futuristic, like of farther advanced technology. I don't
Speaker 4: believe in, like the whole concept of demons and angels.
Speaker 4: I think those are existence here of something more advanced
Speaker 4: humanoids or something that you were saying that are just
Speaker 4: outside of our perception of innerstanding. That's what I truly
Speaker 4: believe in why religion is so concrete here is it
Speaker 4: makes people believe in this dormant mindset of like this
Speaker 4: is all a test. You wait till you die, till
Speaker 4: you go to the next But in factuality, the test
Speaker 4: is here to escape that mindset, to see truly what
Speaker 4: is holding you. That's what I believe.
Speaker 1: Wow, this is wild, man.
Speaker 3: But when you were a kid, yes, which is only
Speaker 3: a few years ago, did you have a Wiji board?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I never tested one of those. No, but I did not.
Speaker 4: I stay away from certain things like that, Ben, just
Speaker 4: for the fact I believe you give life to things,
Speaker 4: and the mind is so powerful you can attract things
Speaker 4: that are outside of our reality.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: So I'm not saying that there isn't interdimensional beings waiting
Speaker 4: to siphon from you or suck your energy or connect
Speaker 4: to you. There's a lot of soulless people out there, Ben,
Speaker 4: And I'm telling you Hollywood has a lot of that
Speaker 4: stuff integrated with it. That's why it's talked about, you know,
Speaker 4: like I don't know even know if you knew this, right.
Speaker 4: So the whole concept of Hollywood, Holly is a type
Speaker 4: of wood. And if you look what Holly was used
Speaker 4: for that was back in the days of witches wizards,
Speaker 4: and they would use that type of oak wood called
Speaker 4: Hollywood to create staffs, wands and dude, it's like it's
Speaker 4: blatantly in front of us. And that's why I know
Speaker 4: the spell of casting all this. There's so much more.
Speaker 4: So that always consists of telling me you just have
Speaker 4: to think outside the box because we were placed in one.
Speaker 4: Thus the whole ice wall theory. It's crazy, Ben, crazy, wow, Umblie,
Speaker 4: you should be doing coast to coast. I would love to.
Speaker 4: It'd be fun.
Speaker 1: I used to love art Bell back back in the day. Geory.
Speaker 3: Obviously, I'm on with George Norri's on, so I don't
Speaker 3: get to hear George. I do park next to George
Speaker 3: quite a bit. Really, Yeah, we have the same same hours.
Speaker 3: I think he starts an hour before I do.
Speaker 1: But okay, i'd go an hour after him.
Speaker 3: But I show up he's already there, and park right there,
Speaker 3: settle in and all that.
Speaker 4: Man, I'm telling you, I have a wealth of things
Speaker 4: that I've spent years just consistently thinking of. Like that's
Speaker 4: why I fasted for so long, because I wanted to
Speaker 4: see the human ability that's why I've disconnected from integrating anything.
Speaker 4: What's your longest fast so so far, I've hit eighteen days.
Speaker 3: You went eighteen days without eating a meal. I want
Speaker 3: to do a month, that's the goal. And how much
Speaker 3: weight did you lose? Oh?
Speaker 2: A lot?
Speaker 4: It's it's really early on set. You lose because you're
Speaker 4: losing inflammation in the body, and as soon as it
Speaker 4: goes into kes ketosis and starvation, that's when you're eating
Speaker 4: all of the plaque, dead cells, cancer cells, et cetera.
Speaker 4: And after you pass about day six, you no longer
Speaker 4: lose weight. You're at a sustainable natural occurrence. Unless you're
Speaker 4: somebody like myself who works out a lot, then you
Speaker 4: lose a little bit of muscle mass. But in theory,
Speaker 4: you're not going to lose too much for somebody like myself.
Speaker 1: All right, So I've been prepared. I ate a little.
Speaker 1: I went well. I lived my best life in Hawaii,
Speaker 1: which the food's not.
Speaker 3: Very good in Hawaii, yeah it's not, but they have
Speaker 3: a lot of ice cream and crap like that, which
Speaker 3: is not good for you.
Speaker 1: So I lived a little bit.
Speaker 3: But now I'm like, I gona lose a few pounds, Okay,
Speaker 3: So I'm thinking about doing like a five or six
Speaker 3: day mass.
Speaker 1: You should and doing that. But if you said six days.
Speaker 3: Is the sweet spot, You're not going to really lose
Speaker 3: much weight after six days, then I'll just do like
Speaker 3: a six day thing.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think so perfect because I think for someone
Speaker 4: like yourself, Ben too, what's the lungst you've done so far?
Speaker 3: Well, the longest I did I had my gallbladder taken out.
Speaker 3: It was I think it was over ninety hours or
Speaker 3: somebody that was like almost four days. Okay, but that
Speaker 3: was not by choice. I couldn't eat anything. I was sick.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't give me food because that had medical condition.
Speaker 3: But I've done three days pretty not I say pretty regularly,
Speaker 3: a couple a couple of every couple of months. I'll
Speaker 3: do three days, okay, mix that in. So I think
Speaker 3: once you get past we've talked about this in the mothership. Yes,
Speaker 3: once you get past about two days or two and
Speaker 3: a half days, you're it's not so bad.
Speaker 1: No, not at all.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: I have been told let me ask you this now.
Speaker 3: I've been told that you need to take if you're
Speaker 3: gonna fast that long, you do need to take electrolytes
Speaker 3: ah okay in the have like water with electrolytes, otherwise
Speaker 3: you'll have issues.
Speaker 4: So I will counter that and tell you that the
Speaker 4: sweet spot for that is you just need to have
Speaker 4: Celtic sea salt with your water. So the biggest thing
Speaker 4: is mineral intake, and that's what electrolytes are, and amino
Speaker 4: acids and essential minerals. Right, So if you have spring water,
Speaker 4: which one of my favorites is the Mountain Valley spring
Speaker 4: water in those green glass bottles, number one, no microplastics,
Speaker 4: which is great. Their TDS count is very high. Their
Speaker 4: fluoride levels are extremely low. When you put a pinch
Speaker 4: of that Celtic sea salt into it, which has like
Speaker 4: eighty six minerals, and then also put that on your
Speaker 4: tongue and drink it, you're stimulating your body, giving it
Speaker 4: the minerals it needs and the count of true good
Speaker 4: electrical alkaline water. You'll be completely okay for seven days
Speaker 4: just on those two things, spring water and Celtic sea salt.
Speaker 4: That's all you need. That's it, and you'll be totally fine.
Speaker 4: But if you push past the seven days, that's when
Speaker 4: I highly recommend you use like liquid sea moss, which
Speaker 4: has ninety six minerals sea moss.
Speaker 1: Yes, what do you want? Do I look like a
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna eat sea moss? Well, no, but it's
Speaker 1: good for you, you know. Oh, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: things that are good for you. Yes, but I don't
Speaker 1: know about that. I'm just saying.
Speaker 4: If you're asking how I'm able to do the eighteen days,
Speaker 4: it's because when I pass seven days, then I start
Speaker 4: looking into shi lelegit and I start looking into sea moss.
Speaker 4: Those two things will comprise your body of over one
Speaker 4: hundred and something minerals, and you'll be Okay, I.
Speaker 1: Can do a little salt in the water.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to sea moss or okay, I won't
Speaker 3: even eat seaweed. Really yeah, yeah, they had like seaweed
Speaker 3: jerky for you.
Speaker 1: I'm good. It's the best bet twelve count it's seaweed.
Speaker 1: It's the best.
Speaker 3: I'm all right, I'm good. Anyway, we have the we
Speaker 3: have a bit here that we do on this on
Speaker 3: this podcast. It's the phrase or word of the week.
Speaker 3: Why don't we do the phrase of the week, the
Speaker 3: phrase of the week. All right, so phrase of the
Speaker 3: week this week is at Loggerheads. So I use this
Speaker 3: phrase a lot on the Overnight show, Alex at loggerheads.
Speaker 1: You know what that phrase is? Have you heard You've
Speaker 1: not heard them? Never. So when people are in disagreement, which.
Speaker 3: Often happens, and we talk about it in sports radio,
Speaker 3: I'll say, hey, they're at loggerheads, all right, there a logo.
Speaker 3: It's just just a fun way of saying they don't
Speaker 3: get along with each other. But the term loggerhead, there's
Speaker 3: actually a turtle named the loggerhead turtle. But the term
Speaker 3: loggerhead itself has been used since at least the sixteenth century. Wow,
Speaker 3: and it's it was originally used to describe just an idiot,
Speaker 3: a blockhead, a stupid person.
Speaker 1: Right, you're you're a stupid person. You're you're a loggerhead. Wow.
Speaker 3: Okay, here's a fun fact that William Shakespeare used the
Speaker 3: word in his in this sense in the in the
Speaker 3: play there were two plays that he did, The Taming
Speaker 3: of the Shrew and Love Labor Is Lost.
Speaker 1: Let's go back.
Speaker 3: Let's go back to the fifteen hundreds where he refers
Speaker 3: to characters as loggerheaded.
Speaker 1: Right, meaning idiots or an esse. But over the years
Speaker 1: it is has changed.
Speaker 3: There's also a nautical theory, a prominent theory suggesting that
Speaker 3: the phrase has nautical roots. The seventeenth century, a loggerhead
Speaker 3: was an iron tool wow with a long handle and
Speaker 3: a kind of a bulky end, used for various purposes
Speaker 3: on ships, including melting pitch for talking.
Speaker 4: I remember that means that sounds dirty.
Speaker 3: It does sound dirty, yeah, But over the years, starting
Speaker 3: in the fifteen hundreds of the phrase has continued to morph,
Speaker 3: and in modern times loggerheads means just a disagreement, a
Speaker 3: strong disagreement, or a turtle, which, oh, by the way,
Speaker 3: one of the coolest things that happened. I got to
Speaker 3: swim with a turtle, real turtle. Yes, it was awesome.
Speaker 3: I was snorkeling.
Speaker 1: I got lucky.
Speaker 3: I was in near Princeville, which I was not staying
Speaker 3: in Princeville. I was staying near Poi Poo Beach if
Speaker 3: you're familiar with KWHI. But we drove up to Princeville
Speaker 3: and was snorkeling around and I didn't see any fish,
Speaker 3: and I kept going further and further out, and then
Speaker 3: I saw a couple of fish and they were like
Speaker 3: these weird tropical fish that looked really cool.
Speaker 1: Had bright colors and all that. They were bright.
Speaker 3: Blue and green yellow, and then there was a black
Speaker 3: and white fish that looked like a zebra but it
Speaker 3: wasn't a zebra.
Speaker 1: Was really cool.
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, I turned to my
Speaker 3: laugh and there it is, munching on some coral is
Speaker 3: about a hundred It wasn't a big one. It was
Speaker 3: like one hundred and fifty pounds.
Speaker 1: I think they get much bigger than shoot. Still a
Speaker 1: sea turtle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just chewing away on coral coral, and
Speaker 3: there were some fish around it.
Speaker 1: And I was right there, and it didn't seem to
Speaker 1: care that I was there. It was busy eating. It's
Speaker 1: it's lunch.
Speaker 3: And then it it was finished eating, and then it
Speaker 3: kind of came up to take some air and it
Speaker 3: was right next to me, like it was an arm
Speaker 3: length away, went up to get some air, came back down,
Speaker 3: went up to get some more air, and then came
Speaker 3: back down to eat more.
Speaker 1: And this whole time I'm just sitting there. That was
Speaker 1: it was really cool. Did you touch it? Awso I
Speaker 1: did not.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to disturb it, but I did think
Speaker 3: about touching it, but I thought I don't want to.
Speaker 1: Mess with it. That's fair. I don't think it would.
Speaker 1: I don't think it would have bitten me or anything
Speaker 1: like that. It's this world. I didn't want to I
Speaker 1: don't want to bother it that much.
Speaker 3: I thought it was kind of cool that it just
Speaker 3: allowed me to sit.
Speaker 4: There and check it out and watch, just enjoy the
Speaker 4: moment with it. That's amazing. Yeah, it was pretty cool.
Speaker 3: It was pretty neat, and I went to a As
Speaker 3: you know, I'm a vampire. I spend a lot of
Speaker 3: time in the great indoors at night. I do not
Speaker 3: see the sun that much. So there was a lot
Speaker 3: of sun tank ocean, and a lot of funny hats
Speaker 3: to hide my head and all kinds of covering of
Speaker 3: the body. Otherwise I would have come back like a tomato,
Speaker 3: which fortunately I did not, but a good time.
Speaker 1: I don't spend a lot of time in the airs.
Speaker 3: I don't go in the ocean here in California because
Speaker 3: it's so so, I don't go in the ocean here.
Speaker 3: The most I'll do is I'll walk along the coast
Speaker 3: alex and I'll put my feet in the water.
Speaker 1: Right, That's about it.
Speaker 3: But I don't I don't go any but Hawaii, it's
Speaker 3: like it's ass the way water shool look, it's bright blue, wonderful,
Speaker 3: and Hawaii is the rainy Kawaii is the rainiest spot
Speaker 3: in if not the world, It's.
Speaker 1: In the top five. And they get the rain every afternoon.
Speaker 3: So when I was in Miami years ago, it's like
Speaker 3: Miami where it rains in the afternoon.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and tropical. Isn't it cool though?
Speaker 4: To see how green it is there, ben Like I'm
Speaker 4: talking like really natural, beautiful mother nature, green compared to
Speaker 4: anywhere else because it's such a vibrant ecosystem, like you're saying,
Speaker 4: it's constantly watered, surrounded by water. Everything's clean. Everything there
Speaker 4: cleans itself. It's kind of incredible. The times I've went there,
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm in a different world for a
Speaker 4: little bit, if that makes sense, because of just how
Speaker 4: pure it is. It trips me out every single time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's it's pretty pretty wild when you're going
Speaker 3: around on Hawaii and everything's the way it's supposed to be.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think the way it's supposed to be. I
Speaker 4: agree it's supposed to be that way. Because here's like
Speaker 4: another grand theory for you to end this one, Ben,
Speaker 4: I believe we used to have more of that type
Speaker 4: of environment and ecosystem throughout the entirety of the world.
Speaker 4: We used to have these things called world trees. So
Speaker 4: if you go look at Devil's Rock and the image
Speaker 4: of Devil's Rock and how it looks, it's a giant
Speaker 4: quote unquote mountain. And to me, the more you study
Speaker 4: it and look at and look at more petrified wood
Speaker 4: or tree stumps, to me, I believe it's truly an
Speaker 4: old tree stump that was cut down back in the day.
Speaker 4: And these world trees used to be so vibrant and massive.
Speaker 4: They would create these canopy protecting the world from too
Speaker 4: much UV rays in the sunlight, creating almost like a
Speaker 4: tropic environment where it was almost spring, summer, and maybe fall.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 4: Winter never consisted because of how vibrant it was, and
Speaker 4: the fruit was pure, the air was pure. People were
Speaker 4: probably giants back then, living in cohesiveness with dinosaurs and
Speaker 4: stuff like. It's so wild to me to think that
Speaker 4: you get a little spurt of that at Hawaii or
Speaker 4: if you go to like the Amazon in Brazil or something.
Speaker 4: It's just I truly believe that this world used to
Speaker 4: be so much different, and that's why when we see
Speaker 4: these trickling effects of how it is now, it makes
Speaker 4: sense why they said we've fallen from the garden of Eden.
Speaker 4: You know, like it's massively incredible to me. It fascinates me.
Speaker 1: Oh, I can only imagine what's going to fascinate you.
Speaker 3: On the Sunday podcasts, my man, we have the mail
Speaker 3: bag on Sunday. There actually were some letters that I
Speaker 3: got from listeners that are kind of the conspiracy theory type.
Speaker 1: I'll make sure to get those into the mail bag
Speaker 1: tomorrow and we'll leave it there.
Speaker 3: Have a wonderful Saturday. And again, what's your podcast, Alex?
Speaker 3: How can people find you if they want to hear
Speaker 3: more of this amazing content.
Speaker 4: Well, it sounds like I'm gonna reach out to you
Speaker 4: to give me a connect and start on coast to
Speaker 4: coast here soon, it sounds like, But just listen to
Speaker 4: Shallow Oceans podcast. I touch on everything anything, and I
Speaker 4: don't shy away from speaking openly, So give it a listen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is my this is my demo. That's beautiful.
Speaker 1: So if I will will definitely make that happen. Let's
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 3: Then, like a Saturday night coast to coast or a
Speaker 3: Friday night coast to coast, call me, I'm down. Awesome,
Speaker 3: all right, have a wonderful Saturday. We got another mail
Speaker 3: bag tomorrow. We'll talk to you then