1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Cut booms. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: of the old Republic, a sole fastion of fairness. He 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse. Wow to clearing house 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: of hot takes, break free for something special. The Fifth 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: Hour with Ben Maller starts right now, in the air. 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 3: Everywhere, The Fifth Hour with me, big man, and in 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: the chair right there everywhere, we say hello to Alex 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 3: the vegan in for Danergy on a much deserved hiatus 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: gap vacation. 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what you throw. 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: It, the whole thing, Yeah, the whole shebang as maybe 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: Danny's away celebrating International Chess Day. Oh yeah, big holiday 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: today on this Saturday, International Chess. 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: It's Moonday to day. Oh you're a fan of the moon. 18 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 4: I love the moon, Ben, Yeah, you think there's anything 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 4: on the moon. Oh, I have a great conspiracy about 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 4: the moon. If you want it, you do, I love 21 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 4: to hear it. Okay, what do you have? I'll sum 22 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 4: it up quickly for you. It's not a rock. It's 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 4: a futuristic teachonological spaceship that's created to totally enamorly distort 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 4: everything from women's cycles. That's what causes all of it 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 4: to just the whole concept of when you die, that's 26 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 4: the light you see at the end of the tunnel, 27 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 4: and they suck in your soul to take in all 28 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 4: of the energy and life force and stress and doubt 29 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 4: and fear you've had and then shove you back into 30 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 4: a human container and continue the cycle till you break it. 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: How about that? What kind of mushroom? What kind of 32 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: mushroom pizza? Are you having? 33 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: This? 34 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: Zero at the moment? 35 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: Zero? 36 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 4: But I just that was something I got lost in. 37 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 4: It was a great concept. That sounds like something. 38 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers would say after he came back from an 39 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: aahuasca retreat out somewhere in forest far for you. Have 40 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,279 Speaker 3: you been on an ayahuasca retreat? 41 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: No? 42 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 4: The most not done? No, The most I have done 43 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 4: is mushrooms like psychedelic and done. Like have you heard 44 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: of that? Okay, here's another thing, Ben that trips me out. 45 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 4: There's actually something called a heroic dose for a mushroom intake, 46 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 4: which means you do over five grands of mushroom, which 47 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 4: means you are no longer sentient in your own ability. 48 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 4: You are in another world for at least four or 49 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 4: five hours, and when you come back you're lucky to 50 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 4: remember anything. It sounds insane to me. I don't know 51 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 4: if I have the courage to do that, but I 52 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 4: have done enough to have a psychedelic experience, and it 53 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 4: has been definitely one of those that opened your mind 54 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 4: of the perspective you're more than Ego etca in the world. 55 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 4: There's so much going on. That's why I said I 56 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 4: had a fun one for the moon. 57 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: For you is that like Men in Black types almost 58 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: where the neuralizer like, yeah, take the right mushroom, yeahs, 59 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: and then you forget everything. 60 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 4: Oh it's crazy because it takes you to a sense 61 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 4: which I never experienced before. That's why I think it 62 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 4: was such an enamoring experience, as that it makes you 63 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 4: see that what you see is not all there is. 64 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 4: And I looked into it because I was so fascinated. 65 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 4: I was like, am I just like technically tripping? Or 66 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 4: is there more? And then you look into the light 67 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 4: spectrum of your eyes and how minimal it you're hearing, 68 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 4: and how it's so small and that way it shows 69 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 4: you like for a brief moment, it's kind of like cheating, 70 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 4: you get a little bit more of an open experience 71 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 4: to show you there's a lot more than physical And 72 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 4: that's why I personally I have just been enamored with it, 73 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 4: and that's what kind of led to the whole moon 74 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 4: topic for you too. 75 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: So wow, this is a wild podcast and we're gonna 76 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: break a record for downloads. 77 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 2: Here. 78 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: I saw a man, Alex the Vegan, living in a 79 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: parallel world that we're all. I mean, one is going 80 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: on here, my god, like a parallel to mensic like 81 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: the Twilight Yes, right, yes, it was that a base 82 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: people thought the Twilight Zone was not it was. 83 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: It was fiction, but it was non fixed. 84 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: I don't believe it at all, man, Yeah, I think 85 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 4: there's so much more truth to things that are always 86 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 4: showed to us. Because here's my concept, right, Ben, Like, 87 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 4: tell me this, how is it? Like we as human 88 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,279 Speaker 4: beings can make up something out of nothing? Isn't that impossible? 89 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 4: Like I just came back from going to get my 90 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 4: tire fixed, right, So you can't just take nothing and 91 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: create a tire or walk into a gym and just 92 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: there's a machine. Somebody took minerals, metals, whatever it is 93 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: to make it. So I don't believe somebody in the 94 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 4: eighteen hundreds or before Christ and it's like back in 95 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 4: a de or b C. Whatever, I don't believe somebody 96 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 4: was out in the fields Bend with just like these 97 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 4: old school the sights and cutting just wheat fields, and 98 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: then they just like, oh dragons, Like somebody had to 99 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 4: physically see these things. How do you just make up 100 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: giants and dragons? Like it doesn't make sense to me. 101 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 4: It's just like we were talking about on yesterday show 102 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,679 Speaker 4: about red box and streaming, Like somebody starts the idea 103 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 4: and then it evolves the iPhone. Somebody started the first 104 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 4: phone and evolved into the rest. 105 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: You know. 106 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 4: Like I just have a hard time believing dragons or 107 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 4: giants or things weren't real in some aspect of life. 108 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm just I stand on are all right? 109 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 3: Well, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna jump in 110 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: and do a belly whopper since we're doing like a 111 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: coast to coast type podcast. So my theory is that 112 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 3: the Roswell alien crash is what led to the advancements 113 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: in modern technology. If you look at what has happened 114 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: since then, Like I look at the iPhone, I think. 115 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: The iPhone was alien technology. 116 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: They use something like reversed engineered alien technology that they 117 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: were able to figure out things from that found Roswell incident. 118 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: And I'm sure there have been others that we don't 119 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 3: know about. I know I watched the documentary in Europe. 120 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: It was supposedly there Roswell that happened over in Europe. 121 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 3: But do I have to be Rod Serling here? You're 122 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: traveling through another dimension, dimension not only of sight and sound, 123 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: but of mine, a journey into a wondrous lay and 124 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: where boundaries are that of imagination that sign posts up 125 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: ahead your next stop, the Twilight. 126 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 4: Well done, thank you, Ben. I believe you're not only 127 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 4: accurate on that. I have a theory that they have 128 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 4: met before whatever it is, and they exchange made some 129 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: kind of like contractual obligation or treaty amongst each other, 130 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 4: where they said, we'll give you information, you let us 131 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 4: study human beings or whatever it is and make this 132 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 4: like our observatory or ant farm. Who knows, dude, it's incredible. 133 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 134 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: Well, the follow up on that, since we're going down 135 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 3: a highway, which is more like like a back alley. 136 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: But that's fine. I love that. 137 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 3: So we mentioned at the end of if I remember 138 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: we mentioned we mentioned the end of yesterday's podcast. We 139 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: talked about the fact that in the ocean and what's 140 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 3: out there the world and all that, Like when I 141 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: was flying over the Pacific and all you when you 142 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: look down, all you see is the ocean. 143 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: There's nothing far you can see right, just water. 144 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: And I imagine that we don't know what's at the 145 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: bottom out We haven't gone over the entire ocean, you 146 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 147 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: They know a lot, but they don't know that. 148 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: But the ocean is so large, and it's so deep 149 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 3: in some places that humans can't go down there. 150 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: To me, there's all kinds of. 151 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: Wild things at the bottom of the other Like I 152 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised. I'll go off the deep end here. 153 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 3: But this whole a lot of the aliens that we're seeing, 154 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: What if it's another subspecies? 155 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: How about this one? 156 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: Yes, alex is living out in the ocean and they 157 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: have a portal and they come out, Yes, of the ocean, 158 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: in the middle of the ocean. Who would ever know nobody, right, 159 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: and maybe some guys on a boat from China to 160 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: the US or vice versa. But those people will be like, oh, 161 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: they would be dismissed. 162 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: All the time. What do you know? You know you're 163 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: drunk men. 164 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 4: I agree completely with you because explain to me why 165 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 4: NASA started as an oceanography exploration company and within two 166 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 4: years the government said yep, nope, you're going up and 167 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 4: totally remove them. So we don't know anything. They've just 168 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: recently came out and said, oh yeah, under this first 169 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,559 Speaker 4: layer crust of the Earth, there's an ocean three times 170 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 4: the size of our ocean underneath the crust of our ocean. 171 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: It's like, what are you just making up shit? 172 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: Now? 173 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 4: Like it's it's crazy to me that there's so much 174 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: that is not understood. I agree with you ten thousand 175 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 4: percent because the only reason we're told we can't go 176 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 4: down is pounds of pressure perforce of this quote unquote 177 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 4: gravity and the just velocity of the water and how 178 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 4: much it comprises you. 179 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: Right. 180 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 4: I have a theory that if you're able to negate 181 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 4: that with some type of futuristic technology and you could 182 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 4: counter the pounds of pressure perforce going down, I have 183 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 4: no doubt in my mind men like you said, I 184 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 4: don't think space is up. I think it's down. I 185 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 4: think if you're trying to find a way out or 186 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 4: see about futuristic societies, atlanteans, aliens mirm people whatever, it's 187 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 4: below us one thousand percent because nobody ever talks about 188 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 4: it or goes. And if you have, like somebody who's 189 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 4: in a submarine or et cetera, you're limited. You could 190 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 4: only go so far. So think about it. That's how 191 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: we are always stuck. And then you remember that story 192 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 4: Ben right, the millionaire billionaire died in that submarine bioll 193 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 4: Titanic or what. 194 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I have. 195 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 4: A theory that that was a completely conforted thing just 196 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 4: to keep people out of the ocean. Truly, I don't 197 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: think that was real in any aspect. Yes, I think 198 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 4: maybe he got onto something found maybe a portal or 199 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 4: some doorway to get out, and he basically chased it, 200 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 4: and maybe it was attacked by something like a guardian 201 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 4: like I don't know if you've ever seen the old 202 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 4: school Disney movie Atlantis, but there's this whole scene in 203 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 4: the beginning when they're Milo and his whole adventure group 204 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 4: they're trying to go into Atlantis. There's this ancient guardian 205 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 4: beast that just defends the portal. I have no doubt, Ben, 206 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 4: there could be something like that, and basically just DROI 207 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 4: is anybody who's not supposed to be there? 208 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: Who knows? Now it's also as we're going deep into this, Yes, 209 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: now we get fully. I want to get fully into it, 210 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: shoot it fully into it. Uh? Is it true you're 211 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: not allowed? Is it the South Pole or the North Pole? 212 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: Now you're getting there a South poole, So it's the 213 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: South Poole. 214 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 4: So tell me this, Ben, tell me why in our 215 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 4: entire existence, your life and mind and everything before us 216 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 4: When Admiral Byrd went in his early exploration of the 217 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 4: South Pole and came back journaling after months of exploration saying, oh, 218 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 4: out there is land that we've never been to the 219 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 4: size of the Americas and has flourishing land inside of 220 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 4: this ice hole he went to was an entire ecosystem 221 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 4: jungle of a futuristic society. He talked to all of 222 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 4: this stuff right, went on radio interviews, et cetera. And 223 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 4: then months later he went back with the government for 224 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 4: this exploration and then came back and then this is 225 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: the first time in human history every country signed a 226 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 4: treaty saying nobody goes out there explain that how is 227 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 4: it we can't agree on ship back, but that we did. 228 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, Oh, I mean, I know. 229 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: There's all kinds of theories on the internet that there's 230 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: like an ancient race of oh the super beings that 231 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 3: live there, there's some kind of pyramid type situation. 232 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: Or have this one, Ben? Have you heard of the 233 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: ice wall theory? 234 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 4: No? 235 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: What? 236 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: Oh boy, I need some mushroom. 237 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 4: Where is that? Just long story short, it's said that 238 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 4: we live basically within a container, and that's why water 239 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 4: always has a level. So that's why it's called sea level. 240 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 4: So anywhere you go, if you go directly south of 241 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 4: anywhere you are into the water, you will eventually hit 242 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: an ice wall. And so that was created to contain 243 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 4: the entirety of our world that we're supposed to be 244 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 4: in and outside of that is off limits. Basically, that's 245 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 4: the land we're not allowed to go to. So it's 246 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 4: protected by government et cetera, deep organizations, and it's supposed 247 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: to contain us in this place called like a prison planet. 248 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 4: And so that's why it's off limits, et cetera. The 249 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 4: whole compass is off with longitude and latitude, and the 250 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 4: North Pole is more so the center of our equator 251 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 4: where there's so much magnetic force there. It's like an 252 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: actual it's supposed to suck into the ground. It's incredible, 253 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 4: and they touch on that concept and stranger things, the 254 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 4: upside down, and so it's such a fascinating theory, even 255 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 4: like with Red Hot Chili Peppers talking about the black 256 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 4: Sun at the center of the Earth that contains all 257 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 4: of our magnetic force. It's like it's such a grand 258 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 4: interesting concept because again, these are things never talked about, 259 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: and it's impossible for anybody normal to go there because 260 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 4: again you'd need millions of dollars to do it. And 261 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 4: even if you do, it's sanctioned and regulated, and a 262 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 4: massive battleship will pull on you before you even get 263 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 4: there and say, yeah, you gotta turn around. 264 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: You'll be eliminated. If you go there, you'll be a yes, yes, 265 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: you'll be eliminated. 266 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 3: Fascinating concept. All right, let's talk Area fifty Area fifty one. Yes, 267 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 3: any thoughts on Area fifty one, Nevada Desert. We're going 268 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: deep into this. You're you're listening to a Coast to Coast, 269 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: the fifth hour podcast the Coast. This is gonna be 270 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 3: my audition when I try to fill in for George 271 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 3: Nori over at Coast to Coast. Maybe I'll do the 272 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: weekend Coast to Coast. This is what I'm going to. 273 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: Send them right now as we go fully off the 274 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: rails like that. I love the air. Are you fifty one? Stuff? Now? 275 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: My favorite alien? I don't know if this is my family, 276 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: this is the one I remember right now. 277 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 3: Okay, go for alien flyover in Arizona years ago when 278 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 3: a giant spaceship flew over the. 279 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: Valley in Phoenix. Okay, made a few. 280 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: Documentaries about it, but nobody seems to Nobody can explain 281 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 3: what it was, where it went, and there's video, but 282 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 3: of course everything's at night, and it's like the old 283 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: old cameras are not that good, etc. 284 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 285 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 4: Wow, well, Bensy, that's a fascinating concept, because do you 286 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: remember the recent thing that happened in Florida where like 287 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: an entire mall got shut down and they had like 288 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 4: hundreds of police officers there FBI agents and they basically 289 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 4: said that there was like a shooting quote unquote, but 290 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 4: everybody that was their first person account said, these massive 291 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 4: black beings that were like ten feet tall just appeared 292 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 4: in the middle of the mall, and everybody freaked the 293 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 4: f out. Did you hear about that in Florida? It 294 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 4: was like last year or the beginning of this year. No, 295 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 4: this is not wrong, look it up. The craziest part 296 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 4: is there were so many people and they brushed everything 297 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 4: that said they took videos of it. There were these 298 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 4: three massive beings. They had no idea, they've never seen it. 299 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 4: They look like quote unquote, like an alien would be 300 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 4: or some kind of humanoid. And the craziest part is 301 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 4: that as soon as that popped off and everything, nobody 302 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 4: had video evidence of it at all. And the theory 303 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 4: is that everybody in that vicinity or in that area 304 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 4: had their phones wiped instantly because their Internet up capability 305 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 4: of just going into phones and wiping anything from that 306 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 4: time date, which is crazy to think about, because then 307 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 4: it goes to area fifty one, like you saying, in 308 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 4: my belief, I think that truly is more so like 309 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 4: a public distraction, like they just want it to look 310 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 4: like it's something that it isn't because the true things 311 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 4: are hidden all around us. 312 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: I believe in plain sight. 313 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 4: So it could be like a base in la that's 314 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 4: just hidden in a normal building like Men in Black 315 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 4: kind of concept. 316 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: Wow, that's my theory. Is that's your theory. 317 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 4: I think it's just a public thing of like a landmark, 318 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 4: you know, so like you go to Paris in the 319 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 4: Eiffel Tower or any I think I read. Yes, I 320 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 4: think it's something to distract people because I think the 321 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 4: true nature of the stuff going on, like we talked about, 322 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 4: is the sea or all around us and these alien 323 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 4: experiences and any of these things that we've had that 324 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 4: has been like the fifth or what's it called the 325 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 4: fourth kind the fourth encounter where it's like people adduction 326 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 4: and stuff like that abduction. It's fascinating to me because 327 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 4: it makes it more so of a concept that are 328 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 4: these things really physical? Are they more like spiritual beings 329 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 4: like in the sense more so out of our physical premise? 330 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 4: So if that is possible, though, it's possible that e 331 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 4: t was based on a true story. 332 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: Ooh, that's ct the old movie back in the day. 333 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 4: It could be because I actually think and Men in 334 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 4: Black is more of a like a documentary of things 335 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 4: that actually happen around them. Oh this thing about you 336 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 4: know how just explained how they could erase everybody's phone 337 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 4: instantly and take any document proof. Because somebody actually put 338 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 4: the coordinates in Ben, and this trips me the f out. 339 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 4: They put the coordinates where they said the Florida thing 340 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: was seen at the mall and reversed it and it 341 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 4: takes you to Antarctica. So people's theories were like, what 342 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: if they just messed up the coordinates and they popped 343 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: up there. It's an interesting theory that is pretty yeah, 344 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 4: pretty wild. Look at human you're bringing you're bringing the 345 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 4: heat here. Oh, Ben, send us the coast to coast. 346 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 4: I would love to be your co host. Let's do this. 347 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: Oh we would be we would dominate. I would love it. 348 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 4: Chemtrails come on, okay, micro micro metals, microplastics, carbon fiber distillery, 349 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 4: and it's also filled with different things that are distorting 350 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 4: your estrogen boost, your testosterone boost, and the main focus 351 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 4: of it is to increase the fluoride concentration that calcifies 352 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: their penial gland, which is supposed to cut off your 353 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 4: antenna from higher frequency and for freedom of thought, my. 354 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: Head is spinning. This is wildlievable. All right? How about this. 355 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: There's a survey in Russia, all right. 356 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: That talks about their experience with aliens or whatever. 357 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: They pulled the over one hundred thousand people, and among those. 358 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: Findings, they found that seventy nine percent of those that 359 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: participated express they believe that there wasn't existence of aliens. Right, 360 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: seventy one percent of people in Russia. Now do you 361 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 3: think if you did that same survey in America, would 362 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: it be higher or lower than seventy one percent. 363 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 4: I'd say lower because of how much we're relying on 364 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 4: social media here. I think a lot of people, Yes, 365 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 4: I would think so, because also the religious following in 366 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 4: this country. I think a lot of people who experience 367 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 4: demonic possession are just things from outside of our perception 368 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 4: of alien interaction or something being attuned to something that 369 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 4: is outside futuristic, like of farther advanced technology. I don't 370 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 4: believe in, like the whole concept of demons and angels. 371 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 4: I think those are existence here of something more advanced 372 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 4: humanoids or something that you were saying that are just 373 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 4: outside of our perception of innerstanding. That's what I truly 374 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 4: believe in why religion is so concrete here is it 375 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 4: makes people believe in this dormant mindset of like this 376 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 4: is all a test. You wait till you die, till 377 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 4: you go to the next But in factuality, the test 378 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 4: is here to escape that mindset, to see truly what 379 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 4: is holding you. That's what I believe. 380 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: Wow, this is wild, man. 381 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 3: But when you were a kid, yes, which is only 382 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 3: a few years ago, did you have a Wiji board? 383 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 384 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: I never tested one of those. No, but I did not. 385 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 4: I stay away from certain things like that, Ben, just 386 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 4: for the fact I believe you give life to things, 387 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 4: and the mind is so powerful you can attract things 388 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 4: that are outside of our reality. 389 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: Right. 390 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 4: So I'm not saying that there isn't interdimensional beings waiting 391 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 4: to siphon from you or suck your energy or connect 392 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 4: to you. There's a lot of soulless people out there, Ben, 393 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 4: And I'm telling you Hollywood has a lot of that 394 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 4: stuff integrated with it. That's why it's talked about, you know, 395 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 4: like I don't know even know if you knew this, right. 396 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 4: So the whole concept of Hollywood, Holly is a type 397 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 4: of wood. And if you look what Holly was used 398 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 4: for that was back in the days of witches wizards, 399 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 4: and they would use that type of oak wood called 400 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 4: Hollywood to create staffs, wands and dude, it's like it's 401 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 4: blatantly in front of us. And that's why I know 402 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: the spell of casting all this. There's so much more. 403 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 4: So that always consists of telling me you just have 404 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 4: to think outside the box because we were placed in one. 405 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 4: Thus the whole ice wall theory. It's crazy, Ben, crazy, wow, Umblie, 406 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 4: you should be doing coast to coast. I would love to. 407 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 4: It'd be fun. 408 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: I used to love art Bell back back in the day. Geory. 409 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 3: Obviously, I'm on with George Norri's on, so I don't 410 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 3: get to hear George. I do park next to George 411 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: quite a bit. Really, Yeah, we have the same same hours. 412 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: I think he starts an hour before I do. 413 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: But okay, i'd go an hour after him. 414 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 3: But I show up he's already there, and park right there, 415 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 3: settle in and all that. 416 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 4: Man, I'm telling you, I have a wealth of things 417 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 4: that I've spent years just consistently thinking of. Like that's 418 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 4: why I fasted for so long, because I wanted to 419 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 4: see the human ability that's why I've disconnected from integrating anything. 420 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 4: What's your longest fast so so far, I've hit eighteen days. 421 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 3: You went eighteen days without eating a meal. I want 422 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 3: to do a month, that's the goal. And how much 423 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 3: weight did you lose? Oh? 424 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: A lot? 425 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 4: It's it's really early on set. You lose because you're 426 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 4: losing inflammation in the body, and as soon as it 427 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 4: goes into kes ketosis and starvation, that's when you're eating 428 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: all of the plaque, dead cells, cancer cells, et cetera. 429 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 4: And after you pass about day six, you no longer 430 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 4: lose weight. You're at a sustainable natural occurrence. Unless you're 431 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 4: somebody like myself who works out a lot, then you 432 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 4: lose a little bit of muscle mass. But in theory, 433 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 4: you're not going to lose too much for somebody like myself. 434 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: All right, So I've been prepared. I ate a little. 435 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: I went well. I lived my best life in Hawaii, 436 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: which the food's not. 437 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 3: Very good in Hawaii, yeah it's not, but they have 438 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 3: a lot of ice cream and crap like that, which 439 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 3: is not good for you. 440 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: So I lived a little bit. 441 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: But now I'm like, I gona lose a few pounds, Okay, 442 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 3: So I'm thinking about doing like a five or six 443 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: day mass. 444 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: You should and doing that. But if you said six days. 445 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 3: Is the sweet spot, You're not going to really lose 446 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 3: much weight after six days, then I'll just do like 447 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: a six day thing. 448 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 4: Yes, I think so perfect because I think for someone 449 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 4: like yourself, Ben too, what's the lungst you've done so far? 450 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: Well, the longest I did I had my gallbladder taken out. 451 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 3: It was I think it was over ninety hours or 452 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 3: somebody that was like almost four days. Okay, but that 453 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: was not by choice. I couldn't eat anything. I was sick. 454 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: They wouldn't give me food because that had medical condition. 455 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: But I've done three days pretty not I say pretty regularly, 456 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: a couple a couple of every couple of months. I'll 457 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 3: do three days, okay, mix that in. So I think 458 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 3: once you get past we've talked about this in the mothership. Yes, 459 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 3: once you get past about two days or two and 460 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: a half days, you're it's not so bad. 461 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: No, not at all. 462 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 4: No. 463 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: I have been told let me ask you this now. 464 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 3: I've been told that you need to take if you're 465 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 3: gonna fast that long, you do need to take electrolytes 466 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: ah okay in the have like water with electrolytes, otherwise 467 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: you'll have issues. 468 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 4: So I will counter that and tell you that the 469 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 4: sweet spot for that is you just need to have 470 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 4: Celtic sea salt with your water. So the biggest thing 471 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 4: is mineral intake, and that's what electrolytes are, and amino 472 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 4: acids and essential minerals. Right, So if you have spring water, 473 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 4: which one of my favorites is the Mountain Valley spring 474 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 4: water in those green glass bottles, number one, no microplastics, 475 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 4: which is great. Their TDS count is very high. Their 476 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 4: fluoride levels are extremely low. When you put a pinch 477 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 4: of that Celtic sea salt into it, which has like 478 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 4: eighty six minerals, and then also put that on your 479 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 4: tongue and drink it, you're stimulating your body, giving it 480 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 4: the minerals it needs and the count of true good 481 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 4: electrical alkaline water. You'll be completely okay for seven days 482 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 4: just on those two things, spring water and Celtic sea salt. 483 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 4: That's all you need. That's it, and you'll be totally fine. 484 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 4: But if you push past the seven days, that's when 485 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 4: I highly recommend you use like liquid sea moss, which 486 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 4: has ninety six minerals sea moss. 487 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: Yes, what do you want? Do I look like a 488 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: guy that's gonna eat sea moss? Well, no, but it's 489 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: good for you, you know. Oh, there's a lot of 490 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: things that are good for you. Yes, but I don't 491 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: know about that. I'm just saying. 492 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 4: If you're asking how I'm able to do the eighteen days, 493 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 4: it's because when I pass seven days, then I start 494 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 4: looking into shi lelegit and I start looking into sea moss. 495 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 4: Those two things will comprise your body of over one 496 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 4: hundred and something minerals, and you'll be Okay, I. 497 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: Can do a little salt in the water. 498 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: I'm not going to sea moss or okay, I won't 499 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 3: even eat seaweed. Really yeah, yeah, they had like seaweed 500 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: jerky for you. 501 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm good. It's the best bet twelve count it's seaweed. 502 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: It's the best. 503 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 3: I'm all right, I'm good. Anyway, we have the we 504 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 3: have a bit here that we do on this on 505 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: this podcast. It's the phrase or word of the week. 506 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: Why don't we do the phrase of the week, the 507 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: phrase of the week. All right, so phrase of the 508 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 3: week this week is at Loggerheads. So I use this 509 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 3: phrase a lot on the Overnight show, Alex at loggerheads. 510 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: You know what that phrase is? Have you heard You've 511 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: not heard them? Never. So when people are in disagreement, which. 512 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 3: Often happens, and we talk about it in sports radio, 513 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 3: I'll say, hey, they're at loggerheads, all right, there a logo. 514 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: It's just just a fun way of saying they don't 515 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 3: get along with each other. But the term loggerhead, there's 516 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 3: actually a turtle named the loggerhead turtle. But the term 517 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: loggerhead itself has been used since at least the sixteenth century. Wow, 518 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 3: and it's it was originally used to describe just an idiot, 519 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 3: a blockhead, a stupid person. 520 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: Right, you're you're a stupid person. You're you're a loggerhead. Wow. 521 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 3: Okay, here's a fun fact that William Shakespeare used the 522 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 3: word in his in this sense in the in the 523 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 3: play there were two plays that he did, The Taming 524 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 3: of the Shrew and Love Labor Is Lost. 525 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: Let's go back. 526 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: Let's go back to the fifteen hundreds where he refers 527 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: to characters as loggerheaded. 528 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: Right, meaning idiots or an esse. But over the years 529 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: it is has changed. 530 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 3: There's also a nautical theory, a prominent theory suggesting that 531 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: the phrase has nautical roots. The seventeenth century, a loggerhead 532 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 3: was an iron tool wow with a long handle and 533 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: a kind of a bulky end, used for various purposes 534 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 3: on ships, including melting pitch for talking. 535 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 4: I remember that means that sounds dirty. 536 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 3: It does sound dirty, yeah, But over the years, starting 537 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 3: in the fifteen hundreds of the phrase has continued to morph, 538 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 3: and in modern times loggerheads means just a disagreement, a 539 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 3: strong disagreement, or a turtle, which, oh, by the way, 540 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: one of the coolest things that happened. I got to 541 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 3: swim with a turtle, real turtle. Yes, it was awesome. 542 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: I was snorkeling. 543 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: I got lucky. 544 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 3: I was in near Princeville, which I was not staying 545 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 3: in Princeville. I was staying near Poi Poo Beach if 546 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 3: you're familiar with KWHI. But we drove up to Princeville 547 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 3: and was snorkeling around and I didn't see any fish, 548 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 3: and I kept going further and further out, and then 549 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: I saw a couple of fish and they were like 550 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 3: these weird tropical fish that looked really cool. 551 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: Had bright colors and all that. They were bright. 552 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 3: Blue and green yellow, and then there was a black 553 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: and white fish that looked like a zebra but it 554 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 3: wasn't a zebra. 555 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: Was really cool. 556 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, I turned to my 557 00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 3: laugh and there it is, munching on some coral is 558 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: about a hundred It wasn't a big one. It was 559 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 3: like one hundred and fifty pounds. 560 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: I think they get much bigger than shoot. Still a 561 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: sea turtle. 562 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just chewing away on coral coral, and 563 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 3: there were some fish around it. 564 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: And I was right there, and it didn't seem to 565 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: care that I was there. It was busy eating. It's 566 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: it's lunch. 567 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 3: And then it it was finished eating, and then it 568 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 3: kind of came up to take some air and it 569 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 3: was right next to me, like it was an arm 570 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 3: length away, went up to get some air, came back down, 571 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 3: went up to get some more air, and then came 572 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: back down to eat more. 573 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: And this whole time I'm just sitting there. That was 574 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: it was really cool. Did you touch it? Awso I 575 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: did not. 576 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: I didn't want to disturb it, but I did think 577 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 3: about touching it, but I thought I don't want to. 578 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: Mess with it. That's fair. I don't think it would. 579 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: I don't think it would have bitten me or anything 580 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: like that. It's this world. I didn't want to I 581 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: don't want to bother it that much. 582 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 3: I thought it was kind of cool that it just 583 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: allowed me to sit. 584 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 4: There and check it out and watch, just enjoy the 585 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 4: moment with it. That's amazing. Yeah, it was pretty cool. 586 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 3: It was pretty neat, and I went to a As 587 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 3: you know, I'm a vampire. I spend a lot of 588 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 3: time in the great indoors at night. I do not 589 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: see the sun that much. So there was a lot 590 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 3: of sun tank ocean, and a lot of funny hats 591 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 3: to hide my head and all kinds of covering of 592 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 3: the body. Otherwise I would have come back like a tomato, 593 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 3: which fortunately I did not, but a good time. 594 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: I don't spend a lot of time in the airs. 595 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 3: I don't go in the ocean here in California because 596 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 3: it's so so, I don't go in the ocean here. 597 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 3: The most I'll do is I'll walk along the coast 598 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 3: alex and I'll put my feet in the water. 599 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: Right, That's about it. 600 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 3: But I don't I don't go any but Hawaii, it's 601 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 3: like it's ass the way water shool look, it's bright blue, wonderful, 602 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 3: and Hawaii is the rainy Kawaii is the rainiest spot 603 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 3: in if not the world, It's. 604 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: In the top five. And they get the rain every afternoon. 605 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 3: So when I was in Miami years ago, it's like 606 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: Miami where it rains in the afternoon. 607 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and tropical. Isn't it cool though? 608 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 4: To see how green it is there, ben Like I'm 609 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 4: talking like really natural, beautiful mother nature, green compared to 610 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 4: anywhere else because it's such a vibrant ecosystem, like you're saying, 611 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 4: it's constantly watered, surrounded by water. Everything's clean. Everything there 612 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 4: cleans itself. It's kind of incredible. The times I've went there, 613 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm in a different world for a 614 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 4: little bit, if that makes sense, because of just how 615 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 4: pure it is. It trips me out every single time. 616 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's it's pretty pretty wild when you're going 617 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: around on Hawaii and everything's the way it's supposed to be. 618 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 4: Yes, I think the way it's supposed to be. I 619 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 4: agree it's supposed to be that way. Because here's like 620 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 4: another grand theory for you to end this one, Ben, 621 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 4: I believe we used to have more of that type 622 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 4: of environment and ecosystem throughout the entirety of the world. 623 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 4: We used to have these things called world trees. So 624 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 4: if you go look at Devil's Rock and the image 625 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 4: of Devil's Rock and how it looks, it's a giant 626 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 4: quote unquote mountain. And to me, the more you study 627 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 4: it and look at and look at more petrified wood 628 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 4: or tree stumps, to me, I believe it's truly an 629 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 4: old tree stump that was cut down back in the day. 630 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 4: And these world trees used to be so vibrant and massive. 631 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 4: They would create these canopy protecting the world from too 632 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 4: much UV rays in the sunlight, creating almost like a 633 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 4: tropic environment where it was almost spring, summer, and maybe fall. 634 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: That's it. 635 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 4: Winter never consisted because of how vibrant it was, and 636 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 4: the fruit was pure, the air was pure. People were 637 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 4: probably giants back then, living in cohesiveness with dinosaurs and 638 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 4: stuff like. It's so wild to me to think that 639 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 4: you get a little spurt of that at Hawaii or 640 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 4: if you go to like the Amazon in Brazil or something. 641 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 4: It's just I truly believe that this world used to 642 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 4: be so much different, and that's why when we see 643 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 4: these trickling effects of how it is now, it makes 644 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 4: sense why they said we've fallen from the garden of Eden. 645 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 4: You know, like it's massively incredible to me. It fascinates me. 646 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: Oh, I can only imagine what's going to fascinate you. 647 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: On the Sunday podcasts, my man, we have the mail 648 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: bag on Sunday. There actually were some letters that I 649 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: got from listeners that are kind of the conspiracy theory type. 650 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: I'll make sure to get those into the mail bag 651 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: tomorrow and we'll leave it there. 652 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: Have a wonderful Saturday. And again, what's your podcast, Alex? 653 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 3: How can people find you if they want to hear 654 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 3: more of this amazing content. 655 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 4: Well, it sounds like I'm gonna reach out to you 656 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 4: to give me a connect and start on coast to 657 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 4: coast here soon, it sounds like, But just listen to 658 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 4: Shallow Oceans podcast. I touch on everything anything, and I 659 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 4: don't shy away from speaking openly, So give it a listen. 660 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is my this is my demo. That's beautiful. 661 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: So if I will will definitely make that happen. Let's 662 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: do it. 663 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 3: Then, like a Saturday night coast to coast or a 664 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 3: Friday night coast to coast, call me, I'm down. Awesome, 665 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: all right, have a wonderful Saturday. We got another mail 666 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: bag tomorrow. We'll talk to you then