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Speaker 2: Dan, Great to see you. How you doing.

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Speaker 1: Hey great, Hey, Before we get started, I just want

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Speaker 5: That means a lot.

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Speaker 6: All right, Scotti, fire away at your trade questions. Guys,

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Speaker 6: Am you do that every time I get on air?

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Speaker 5: I know, because because there's seventeen fifty one or whatever

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, who do you least for their worst

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Speaker 3: Like to simplify, it's not a quick fix to go

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Speaker 1: Now you go on the road and you see the

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Speaker 1: I think that's where like guys who have elite at

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Speaker 1: It's just a human dynamic of where you play, same

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Speaker 1: Change is for okay there. Cutters can work there, But again,

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Speaker 5: Dan, No, Dan, You're good this.

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Speaker 6: Would you rather have guys, Dan?

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Speaker 5: Would you rather have guys that those sinkers or guys

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I fig you're I picked him to win the division.

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Speaker 5: Not do that any in that what's surprising dan is

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Speaker 1: It's just it acts like a lot of current gms,

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Speaker 6: We got a chance to sign.

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Speaker 6: The whole thing. Oh great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know it's funny you read all the

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Speaker 1: I find some of these, you know, these statements just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you some of I mean, there's some

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Speaker 3: I'm like, uh, sometimes you know the the am I

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Speaker 2: Dan, you know me, I.

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Speaker 3: Worked with you for a while, Like I love a

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Speaker 1: I think the perfect organization Scotti that are running the

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Speaker 1: And I think the game is just really trended itself

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Speaker 6: It's not going to get better any any moving forward.

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Speaker 1: I know none of this is probably going to happen,

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Speaker 1: but if I'm running the Twins, I look at this

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Speaker 1: trading the line because of the really little available talent

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Speaker 1: that's out there at this point in time, I would

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Speaker 1: look to take advantage of these teams that you know,

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Speaker 1: think they're going to win that really aren't and try

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Speaker 1: to reboot my whole organization because that club now for

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Speaker 1: two years that it just doesn't it.

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Speaker 6: Just hasn't worked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great call.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen game win Street kind of smoking mirrors in terms

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Speaker 3: of what the record looks like, because besides that little

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Speaker 3: two week run, I mean, it does look like a

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Speaker 3: subpar non playoff team.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens there. All right, let's finish

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Speaker 2: with this.

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Speaker 3: So a win Reality, which you founded and you're a

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Speaker 3: big part of for a long time as a leading

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Speaker 3: VR training tool for baseball and softball. Tons of major

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Speaker 3: leaguers use it and then go down miners, college kids,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. Right, your company acquired swing sensor technology Blast Motions,

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Speaker 3: So I'll let you let us know how big that

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Speaker 3: is for the world of baseball and tech training.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we think it's gigantic, honestly. So we have one

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Speaker 1: hundred million swings sanalyzed within our platform, and whin VR

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Speaker 1: they have four hundred million, so a little over four

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Speaker 1: in a million, so over half a billion data set

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Speaker 1: now to work with, which gives us great insight. And

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Speaker 1: though Blast was certainly a technology company, we're a baseball company.

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Speaker 1: BLASTS will become a baseball company. It will be run

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Speaker 1: separately in the short term. We'll see what happens over

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Speaker 1: the long term. But if you think about what the

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Speaker 1: capabilities they have with our VR training platform Scotti, we

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Speaker 1: have a new swing a eye product out that is

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Speaker 1: killing the market, you know, to be able then to

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Speaker 1: capture their their ability to track backpath and contact point

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Speaker 1: that fits perfectly into our win VR training and then

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Speaker 1: to take their blast motion biomechanical analysis that they've got,

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Speaker 1: which is great, and put that into our swing AI.

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Speaker 1: We just consolidated the industry dramatically, and now we have

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Speaker 1: a chance to actually simplify things, uh for the end

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Speaker 1: user and you know, hopefully make it a much easier

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Speaker 1: transition and process for everybody that you know wants to

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Speaker 1: get better in the game of baseball, which is ultimately,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, why we started the

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Speaker 1: company and why we continue in this day is to

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Speaker 1: try to make players better and that we have to

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Speaker 1: do it via technology. I just I mean, people think

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Speaker 1: we're a tech company more we really aren't. We're just

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Speaker 1: we're baseball men utilizing a tech back platform trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out how to do some of the things in

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Speaker 1: the game that's really hard to do at all ages.

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Speaker 6: And simplify it.

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Speaker 4: I remember when this came on this when when when

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Speaker 4: reality came on the scene, goy, I guess it was

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Speaker 4: over COVID when when we started using it, Yeah, in

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Speaker 4: Kansas and Kansas City. And now with this, I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's got to be just exploding with with with youth baseball,

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Speaker 4: doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy with our product is basically all in

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Speaker 1: the youth space. Blast Motion is really just all in

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Speaker 1: major league teams and in colleges and they have a great,

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Speaker 1: great golf product too. We're certainly going to take that

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Speaker 1: downstream itself into the youth market to where there's just,

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Speaker 1: you know, fifty million users that aren't being tapped, and

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Speaker 1: so we think there's an unbelievable opportunity for us because

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Speaker 1: it's a really good product to downstream that hold on

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Speaker 1: to the big league team. I think twenty seven out

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Speaker 1: of thirty teams use Blast. I think there's three hundred

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Speaker 1: colleges that's fully onboarded into their system. So we think

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Speaker 1: it's a great opportunity because we've now figured out I

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Speaker 1: don't know if we figured it out. We're still in

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Speaker 1: the process of learning how to actually capture that youth

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Speaker 1: baseball base and so we'll put some of our best

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Speaker 1: practices into trying to take that down the downstream. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we have other things guys that were still looking there's

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Speaker 1: one of the company that we're still looking at acquiring

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Speaker 1: two that will help us fill another bucket, you know,

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Speaker 1: just trying to consolidate a very unique space within the

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Speaker 1: game that's you know, trying to organize it in a

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Speaker 1: way that just makes it a lot easier for people

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Speaker 1: to use and understand why they're using it.

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Speaker 3: It's very cool. Obviously, I've been a big fan for

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Speaker 3: a long time. Congratulations on the acquisition. Thanks for letting

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Speaker 3: us know about it, Dan, and you know we'll be

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Speaker 3: following all that age. Obviously too knows that scene well

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Speaker 3: with his son now transitioning to the college game, so

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Speaker 3: thanks for sharing Dan, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Congrats again, great guy.

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Speaker 6: Hey, thanks for having me on and I wish you

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Speaker 6: the best of luck as you go through the training.

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Speaker 6: That should be fun time.

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Speaker 7: In here for you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you of course, this was great. Good to see

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Speaker 2: you Dan.

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Speaker 6: Okay, see you guys. Bye bye.