WEBVTT - Walk It Out (w/ Barbara "Sky" Burrell) 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:04.520 Welcome back, Welcome back to the Vitamin D Podcast with 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:07.480 Dawn Day. I am glad to be your eponymous host, 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:09.360 here to help you become the best you you can 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:12.480 be and signed some light in your life. It's time 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:14.800 for you to live your best life right now, on 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:18.599 purpose and for purpose, because life is short. Tab with 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:22.759 Boseman just passed away, brother got diagnosed with stage three 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:26.160 and sixteen and gets still filmed several movies, walk down 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:29.720 several red carpets, and did countless of interviews. All why 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:34.279 standing forth and being there for friends, family and friends? 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:41.160 What is your excuse? What is holding you back? Why 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:45.400 are you afraid to be great? Let me guess you 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.160 don't have it all figured out. When I think back 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.559 on my first idea of what Vitamin D would be, 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:53.440 all I knew was that I had a voice and 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:56.000 that I should use it. I also knew that I 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.560 had a passion for music, and I knew that music 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:02.640 makes you hear words differently. And I said, We'll wait 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:06.280 a minute. I love inspiring people, so let me go 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:09.760 to the music and pull out an inspirational message that 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:14.560 can reach people universally, something that everyone would understand. And whoila, 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:18.160 here I am Vitamin D is coming out of your speakers. 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.479 Don't tell me it's not possible, and you can't tell 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.679 me that you're not worth it, because you are. And 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:26.760 it's time for you to get out of your own 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:30.320 way and make your dreams a reality. Which brings me 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.840 to today's dose of vitamin D. Our guest today comes 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.360 with a little bit of that fusion flair. She comes 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:38.920 to drive and I'm talking about a woman who quit 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:41.480 her corporation. I haven't made her dream of reality with 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.160 only two thousand dollars and an idea. I'm speaking with 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:49.600 Miss Barbara sky Barrel, founder of l A's famous Skies 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:52.640 gourmet tacos. We discussed what to do when you don't 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.440 like the direction of your life, what to do when 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.760 passion doesn't get you past the line, and how you 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.559 can walk it out not having it point by point 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.160 planned for your life. I mean, who really has it 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:06.480 all figured out right? We talked how some of the 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:08.640 greatest ideas are some of the ones we throw away 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.200 is too far fetched, too trendy, and how a little 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.880 girl in Chicago asking her mother what a taco is 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:16.520 la decades later to some of the best tacos in 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:20.480 southern California. Without further ado, it's time for your dose 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:26.200 of vitamin damin D right with me and get excited 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:34.480 about Well. Hello, they're miss Barbara, Jean Bara. How are 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:38.240 you doing today. I'm wonderful good to meet you. It 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:42.320 is an absolute honor to meet you. I say that 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:45.320 because I was just thinking how I live in the 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:49.240 neighborhood and Darren, who is a neighbor of mine, and 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.799 I would see he had one of his cars were 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:56.160 wrapped in Sky's Tacos. I remember a couple of years ago. Actually, 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.560 I stopped by before you moved to your new location, 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.320 when you're in the smaller area. I thought the tackles 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:05.800 were absolutely wonderful. So then here's how we met. Dan 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.080 received a package at my house. I want to go 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.680 drop it off, he says, Hey, Don, I am just 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.960 in such gratitude for what you did. He's like, I'm 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.120 gonna bring you something from my good girlfriend Sky. You 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.480 know Sky's Tacos. I'm like, of course, I know Sky's 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:26.760 taco I'm gonna bring you some caramel cheesecake. My heart dropped, 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:32.400 my paler danced. I saw a new day. Oh you 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:37.240 know what to say? I got it. Thanks thanks so 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.320 much at me so much. It really does. Dan David 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.960 and my biggest fans. I don't know what I do 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.360 without him in the in the team. But again, I'm 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:49.440 glad you enjoyed the cheesecake, and thank you absolutely. And 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.600 here's the thing as well, as I was getting prepared, 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.280 and if you're listening, I am talking to the CEO 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:59.840 and founder of Skies Gourmet Tacos located right well, you 0:03:59.880 --> 0:04:04.520 have a couple of locations, but located in southern California. Yes, 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:09.000 you've founded it almost but almost thirty years ago. This 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:13.760 year mark the year. Yes, that's correct. It's it's unbelievable. 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.400 Where the years gone? And and I look up and 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:23.880 I say, well, I do this again. I'm stupid. I would, Okay, 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:26.960 I would, but let's talk about that doing again. And 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:30.120 that just makes me think of the start. First and foremost, 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:34.760 we have something in common. Okay, we are two Midwest girls. 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:39.400 I'm from Detroit. I saw your from Chicago. Went to 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:44.440 Michigan State. My sister went to Michigan State. Welcome, welcome, 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:46.640 It's good to know you. You know, there's there's something 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:50.360 about us Midwestern here that's a there's another there's another 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:53.520 touch to us. Okay, I hadn't kill anybody, says, because 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:57.200 I thought I was gonna ask you where you from. Mr. Gone, 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.080 I thought you were from somewhere in the Midwest, not 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:05.440 idle home, not Iowa, but like Detroit, Google, that's where 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:09.200 my folks are from. Yes, grow but Joe Brow is 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:13.200 environment my uncle, um, my father went to cash Tech 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:19.360 and all my my relatives went there. Yeah, very prominent musician, 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:26.600 first African American and is somethany so fior wow wow Detroit. 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:31.840 So respect always say Detroit. They breed us differently. There's 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:36.479 a go about us. There's a buzzas there is, There 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:40.080 is and and and that that came on through to Chicago. 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:42.880 And if you and I think that I think it 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.640 doesn't leave, it doesn't mean that that that or doesn't leave. 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:51.279 It's good to know you, my follower, Midwestern. It's good 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:55.839 to know you. And Ms Barbara Jeane or should I 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:59.000 call you sky whichever you prefer. They call me the Countess. 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:04.240 They me the Countess because I was dot in my Marina, 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:08.080 dol Rey, my opening up here in the marina, and 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.200 sky Score made marketplace, and so someone came in and 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:15.359 said I heard that there's a countess moving in with 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.719 her son, a rich, rich countress with the side, so 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.839 that's better. Really started calling me the countess and I said, well, 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:23.680 it wouldn't be better to be a queen. And then 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:28.479 I was told what queens get replaced the countess? You 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:35.000 better speak that. I love that counter sky. It sounds 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:39.520 so majestic, So let's start. Let's talk about it, because 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.040 you have a very interesting story. Uh. And I think, 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.760 like when we talk about stories of success, we see 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.240 the ups and downs, the twist and turns and all 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:51.599 that in between. And like we said that you're from Chicago, 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.240 tell us about what it was like going up to 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:59.400 Chicago and what actually sparked your interest in the restaurant business. 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:06.000 Grew up in Chicago, moderate U income family that aspired 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:10.560 for the best for my sister and I. On there 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:16.040 were the culture very little um, very few African Americans 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:22.680 and are good um Latinos. We rarely solvm um, we 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:29.480 rarely interacted with them. But I was always culturally diverse 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.360 in my mind and heart because I would live with 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.360 a person, say how they look different, Let's see what 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.960 do they do? How they live? So this is how 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:41.440 my interests started, and then of course the taco threw 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.760 up somewhere on a billboards with my mom and I said, 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:48.240 what's that. She's out to taco, says taco, and I'm like, well, 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.560 can we get a taco? And never had a taco, 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.480 So somehow we ran to a taco, started eating tacos, 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:58.480 developed tacos, cultivate a tacos. Tacos a part of my life, 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:03.280 for real, for real, so interesting having to be a 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.040 part of your life. It didn't start out that way 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.680 because when you were studying at Michigan State, you were 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:11.280 actually going down the business route. And I'm wondering you 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.360 were with your mom with that tackle. But I understand. 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.400 Darren was telling me that your mom was a professional 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:21.320 celebrity chef. That's correct. My mom cooked for Diana Ross. 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:25.480 My mother took for Diana Ross right here barely Hills. 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:29.760 She cooked for the Cassidy's David Cassy, he cooked for 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:38.240 James conen Um Fred Sands, and that that inspired me. 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:41.040 But I didn't know at the time it was my inspiration. 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:45.040 I didn't know. Sometimes we as life goes on, we 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:48.480 don't know really the answers, and we could be experiencing 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:52.040 something very beautiful. And I truly understand. My mother was 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:56.959 a meticulous cook that was um of the perfectionist that 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.839 she would grow away. And I understand that if it 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:04.320 wasn't righteous, it's gotta go. My mom was stellar. She's 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:06.720 not WITHO list any longer. But I'm telling you she 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.800 got so much. She gave so much to my hone 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:15.160 and for order for me to give in the arena cooking. 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.640 SOB please with that. I'm called. And I love what 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:22.000 you said. You said sometimes you know, I think you know, 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.600 coming up and in life, we are trying to map 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:28.560 out every single thing, and we realized that sometimes you 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:33.400 have to live just to let things unfold. Absolutely absolutely, 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:37.440 and and you speaking on and just reading someone can 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:39.560 see that you were studying, you know, you were getting 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.920 a degree in strategic business management at Michigan State, and 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:45.840 then one day you just said, decided to say, hey, 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.280 this isn't for me, so let me get this straight. 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.280 I've done everything what they call aspect what you see, 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:56.199 I didn't just go right from high school into Michigan State. 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:01.360 I made some detours. You see. I had a child, Um, 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:05.920 I was I worked at the phone company, I was here. 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:10.880 I moved to California, so in movie in California. But 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:14.800 I was able to catch up on my education. Okay, 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:18.640 through the route. But it didn't just I'm oh, I'm 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.120 doing this, this and this. No, there was no, it 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:25.360 was not simple the clear cut path. No, I didn't 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:29.680 do that. No, that's not me. I didn't do that. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:33.360 Within me have done in life. My past have been 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:37.160 very um, they've been very uh what we would say, 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.640 off the the off, the stray, off the main off 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:45.760 the main site. But it's come around. It's coming, It 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.200 comes around, that's what they say. You know, you just 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.120 live a little longer and just experience some things and 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:56.960 you see how all the pieces come together. Yes, yes, yes, yes, 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.720 So when it came down to you and I was 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:04.760 reading you decided to take a break, when you decided, hey, 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.280 this is not what I want to do. Uh, depending 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.120 on you know, going down the business route, because I 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:12.280 understand you were also an executive of several major companies 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.559 and actually had a hand and the drive through being 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:20.199 established at McDonald's. That's correct, that's correct, making maybee want 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.800 to believe. So how did you get to the point 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:26.120 I can imagine McDonald's what it is today a very 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.440 lucrative stand up job to say, hey, I'm walking away 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.600 from this from something that possibly was unknown or possibly 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.840 a seat that had been planted. It was. It was 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:40.480 a wonderful stepping stone. The experience when I wouldn't trade 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:47.480 it hard work, discipline and instilled um systems things that's 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.720 needed what I do every day, you have to system 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:56.200 for everything. McDonald was fabish, but I wanted. I wanted 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:59.800 something else in my life for me. McDonald was just 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:04.200 ablished when I quit Mcdoaldy was. It was right after 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:07.880 I finished the Drive Too, and I resigned because I 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.160 knew there was something else and I didn't have another 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.360 I didn't want another job, but there was something else 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:15.679 because I've always thought in the back of my mind, 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:19.000 I want my own business, and maybe this is time. 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.640 And you see, I'm not a I'm an intuitive person. 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:25.240 Sometimes my intuition is a lit long and it was off. 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:29.280 So some several years later, nonetheless, I knew that I 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:35.040 wanted McDonald's was established. I wanted to establish what Barbain 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:39.360 needed and was put here to establish speak on it. 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.280 And I think that's what's so important when we talk 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:48.880 about dreams, it's about what is your passion and are 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:53.280 you still enough to hear it? Are you disciplined enough 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:59.960 to see it? Are you ambitious enough to pursue it? Absolutely? Absolutely, 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:03.440 And I would I would suggest when people talk about 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.880 all my passion is my passion is this or that? Well, 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:11.000 passion doesn't always get us to the to the line. 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:16.480 It's it's uh something that will motivate us. The passion 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:22.000 doesn't take us the way the distance. Passion doesn't do that. 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.240 What passion will do is it will get you started. 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:29.080 Because when as you walk that line, you're gonna need 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:33.679 something more than passion. You're gonna need persistence. You're gonna 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:37.800 need a touch of a touch of hard handedness. You're 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:42.320 gonna need a confidence that you have to constantly cough 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:46.199 up sometimes every morning in order to make it. You're 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:51.200 gonna need a brashness to know that, oh we need 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:52.920 to tell me this the whole wide world like you 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.000 do it. These are the things that you have to 0:13:56.080 --> 0:14:00.920 muster up in addition to that that that cool word passion, 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:05.560 fashion is a wonderful word, and it's a wonderful thing. 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:09.840 It's only a start, and it's a good start, but 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.400 it will it will never take you the distance. So 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:14.720 you found your passion and you said, hey, you're with 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.840 your mom. You saw these tacos, then you decided to 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:21.160 step away from McDonald's. I read that all you had 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.880 was two thousand dollars and a vision. That's correct. What 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:30.200 was that about? While you see when you believe, first 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.800 of all, when you believe, when you know that you've 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.760 come to the end of the road, the end of 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.760 the road, that is the jump off for the beginning 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:42.360 of the real road. This is what I did. I 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.240 was working on as an asset manager dog tom Hira 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:50.440 high rise for Black Investments Company of Men for ten years, 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:55.920 save money, quit oh nine months head of ball and 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.880 spent all the money except for probably to grab And 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:00.920 I said, okay, God, am I gonna do now? And 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.680 this is the truth. So so I did my no arena. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.600 It was nine days, you know. And that ninth day 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:12.720 I awakened at six a m. In the morning with tackles. 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:21.080 I said, I believe the six am January I had 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:23.960 a space, that small space that interfer a weight was people. 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:28.600 I wasn't planned. I had no I had basically no money, 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.560 but I knew that this was what I needed to 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:34.440 do go in that space. I sit down in the chair. 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.240 I've got my two sons, and I said, now what 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:41.240 I do. My one son was excellented plans building whatever. 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.480 The other sun was there saying, you know whatever you mean. 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.880 He was that they were both in school. But whatever 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.440 you need, mom, we're gonna We're here for you. And 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.040 and they worked for me, and that March five comes 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:54.200 along and I said, we're gonna open up March five 0:15:54.720 --> 0:16:01.720 one forty four in nineteen nineteen, I said, open the doors. 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:03.960 We're not ready and will never be ready. Open the 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:08.160 doors anyway. We open those doors. And those doors when 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.120 we opened them, we were like because we were still 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:16.240 in the developmental state. We weren't totally you know, together, 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.720 and you know we had everything. You know, people have 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.400 donated compressors. I gotta we'll still two thousand dollars. Let's 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:26.120 that's all I needed. I don't know how it has happened. 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:28.280 I don't know how it happened. When I say don't 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.480 know how, I know that I took step by step 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:41.440 and said I'm going on anyhow. When I do it again, yeah, yeah, wow. 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.360 And you know, just hearing somebody else say hey, and 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:48.840 that one morning in January, the vision came. Then you said, wow, 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.720 I got the space. So now you got the vision, 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.200 you made room for the vision. Now this is the 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:56.640 part I think you talked about that exceeds the passion. 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.240 Now what are we gonna do with it? Now? Where 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:03.000 we get to it's called the jump. You gotta jump off. 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:08.520 You are jump right and wrong. You gotta jump and 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:11.480 for somebody to hear the success. And I'm sure and 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:13.840 that's what I wanted to talk about as well, the 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:17.040 road and to your success. One can look at it 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:21.199 and say, well, that's easy for you to say. You know, 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.679 everything was provided for you already. It was easy, but 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:26.840 it takes a level. No matter where you are, we 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.439 no matter what platform you're standing from, you still realize 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:35.800 the greater the risk, the greater the reward. Absolutely absolutely, 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.520 And and my my background has been I work for men, 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.360 and you know men, you know they got another tostof 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.960 thing going where they got they got the answers and 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:47.680 if they don't have the answers, they're like, like they've 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:51.280 got the answers. Well, I learned some of their some 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:56.240 of their tricks, their tricks and white that sustained them 0:17:56.280 --> 0:18:00.640 and help them to get through. That is what one 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:05.400 of them was, which I find to be so much 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:12.040 a part of me. You fear, call them the defense 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.639 if you have to, because fear is fear is going 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:20.520 to be with us, and every every big step we're 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:26.159 gonna we're gonna have this fear. Men have fear, but 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:30.440 you never know it. M. These men, I worked for 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:34.399 men that were strong men. When I see strong and 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:36.560 very very strong, I was right. I was easily right 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:39.679 next to them, sat on the board, right next to 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:47.520 these men in terms of more heat and working habits, work, ethic, work, presentation, work, conclusion. 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:50.959 And one of the major things that I noticed was 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:55.879 how they handled fear. They had fear. They crawled under defense, 0:18:55.960 --> 0:19:00.080 whatever they had to do, but they moved along. M 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:05.000 it's that fear, and that's what I learned what these 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:09.200 men and I have the experience of having many many 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:14.879 wearing many hats and being able to bring these hats 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:19.199 to my business. I learned about insurances and business. I 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:24.240 learned about UM. I learned about how to how to maintenance. 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:28.040 I learned a lot of different different things. Okay, I 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:31.280 learned how to just get through, just go on anyway 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.000 they tell you know. Oh, that's okay, that's a good 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:37.720 that's a good answer. Knows a wonderful answer. I'll be 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:42.439 right here tomorrow. Thank you learned. And it's interesting of 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:46.639 how you got that perseverance coupled with that persistence, because 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:50.960 here we are in twenty we can still compare how 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:52.919 much a woman is getting paid by the data to 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.680 a man, let alone an African American woman. And that's 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:59.560 in now we're talking. You established your business, you opened 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:04.720 it up on Pico In. Therefore, I'm teen years prior 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:09.840 to that. You are an African American woman standing in 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.800 a room of how many other women? Were you usually 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:19.439 the only one? Yes? Yes, that was always amongst men. Mhm. 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:22.679 Talk to me about some of the things that you 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:26.080 had to push through. That was said because I talked 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:28.760 to people oftentimes and they're going after your dreams and 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:30.960 like you stated before, not having it figured out. But 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.159 sometimes you get in certain situations and you think that 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:36.560 you're going to have us a support system of people 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:38.879 that are rooting you on. But of course, when you 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:41.480 look different and when you're breaking a barrier, when you're 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:45.600 doing something that's unknown in foreign people don't always take 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:50.080 a liking to that how did you persevere opposition was tough. 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:56.000 The positions that I held. For example, I would never 0:20:56.040 --> 0:21:00.920 get addressed by my name. I was asset management, but 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:04.399 I never got addressed as Barbara Burrell. I was always 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:10.080 addressed as dear sir, dear sir. Other places, people would 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:13.400 write me notes and then your asshole, I mean men, 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:18.880 men predominantly men, and aren't going to be offended by 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:21.200 the way. I was very offended, but I would never 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:23.639 let them know it. I would go in and I said, well, 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:25.720 I guess I'll be a there asshole the day because 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:29.480 there I come. But every day that this chips away, 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:32.080 it can chip away at you. It can chip away 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:35.200 at your confidence. And if you don't, if you don't 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:38.720 really work and believe in yourself and every day tout 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:40.639 yourself and say were you waking at the one and said, oh, 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:44.560 I'm I'm great, I'm great, I can make this, I 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:46.920 can make this, and I can do this well to 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:51.879 be defeated because I have worked along nothing but NET 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:57.119 made more money than NET. And the setups some of 0:21:57.160 --> 0:21:59.560 the things that happened, I mean the setup that they do, 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:03.840 they create for you to fail. There's nothing but set 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:06.080 up for failure. And when they get and I've been 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:09.080 fired five and fired, and when they get ready to 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:11.800 fire you, they bring down a whole bunch of suits 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:15.280 and even a set of just one suit. But for 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:20.440 for a strong woman, they're gonna bring down suits like 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:25.960 three and four because it's a psychological thing, okay. And 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:28.680 of course I thought it was an honor because they 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:32.360 did not define me. And I knew the reason, did 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:36.280 I southe No, it wasn't necessary. I don't have time. 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:39.280 I got other things to do. But it was. It 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:42.399 was a blow. It was a blow in that you 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:44.119 have to really sit down and get in touch with 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:46.760 yourself and say, let me figure this out. And it's 0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:51.399 about being a woman. It's about being a woman, a 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:56.159 woman that looks different. And we're still we're still in 0:22:56.160 --> 0:23:05.040 this battle. We're in this woman inclusion battle. We're trying 0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:07.359 to break out of it. It looks like we're it 0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:10.280 looks like we're on the way, but it's a way 0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:14.760 to go. Women do not get respected. Yeah I was. 0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:17.920 And when I worked as asi manic drivers a woman, 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:20.159 I wore high heels and lipstick and they were like, oh, 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:23.800 here she comes. And so I was to be men 0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:27.640 can go around and they can they can taunt and 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:31.000 then taunt in terms of say other things to women. 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:34.280 And it's okay when you say something to a man 0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:38.560 in terms of instructions, they're like, oh, she's a bee h. 0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:42.200 But a man he could, he could say what he 0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:46.119 wants to say to a woman. You know. So we're 0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:50.840 we've come some way, but we've kind of go a 0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:54.800 long way. We're gonna go to distance too. We're gonna 0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:58.040 go to distance, and you know, the way society has 0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:00.679 definitely opened up doors. And I think there's a different 0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:03.639 light and a recognition for a lot of women that 0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:07.040 have dreams. But I think, or I feel, what you 0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:10.400 said was so imperative. And this goes for a lot 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:13.160 of women that are being bold enough to go against 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:16.000 the grain, to step in their truth to say, you know, 0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.200 you know, I want a business and I may want 0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:21.560 a family too, and if not, that's okay. But what 0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:25.399 I find is so interesting with a lot of not 0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:27.440 only women but men and going to your path of 0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:33.000 success is that it can be lonely and there's a 0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:36.240 sure enough confidence in yourself that you just have to 0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:40.280 know what you know. And I just think about you 0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:42.840 and you're saying that, Hey, I'm the only one in 0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:45.720 hills and lipstick in this entire room, and probably the 0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:51.840 only one of color. H What would you say was 0:24:53.200 --> 0:25:00.040 your inspiration or who are what kept you going? I 0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:04.679 was raised around the mother that was extremely strong, and 0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:07.440 she was much stronger than she even gave her some 0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:14.360 credit for. I watched my mother great battles. I watched 0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:18.600