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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, Emily Evadi coming to you live from the

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Speaker 2: She's a WNBA player for the New York Liberty.

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Speaker 2: For today's episode, we dive into what happened to d

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Speaker 2: Yet thirty eight days later, thanks to her strong will,

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Speaker 3: Today. I am sitting down with d d Richards.

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Speaker 2: She is a w NBA great she plays for the

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Speaker 3: How you doing today, great?

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm so good, I'm so excited to see you today.

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Speaker 2: I feel like, right off the bat, I have to

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Speaker 3: It's cool, it's cool, I get it.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be the bridge that makes it not a rivalry.

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Speaker 3: It bridge, We're building the bridge. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I am so inspired by you. I'll never forget I

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Speaker 3: Oh, you look at me like I'm crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're pretty good at it though.

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Speaker 2: You've got you're crushing out like one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: but in my.

433
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Speaker 1: Head, this is a game. So like I see a

434
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 1: pass go up and my player that had just scored,

435
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,120
Speaker 1: which is moon Arson, is the fastest person on our team.

436
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know why I thought she couldn't get

437
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 1: back till this day, I'm like, why did I even

438
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,440
Speaker 1: why did that even happen? Like why did I think

439
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 1: that was okay? But I literally saw a ball. I

440
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 1: saw that Elaine that I could go and she's, you know,

441
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,679
Speaker 1: being a normal basketball player, trying to get back on

442
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 1: defense back to her player and it's running top speed,

443
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 1: but she sees the ball as well, so she's trying

444
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 1: to get the ball running this way, and I'm running

445
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 1: this lay and all we sees the ball and we

446
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 1: just collide. And I was airborne. So when she collided,

447
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 1: her head hit my hip bone and that made like

448
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 1: I guess my spinal cord shape, and so that sent

449
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,400
Speaker 1: my spine into spinal shock because there's ways your spine

450
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 1: isn't supposed to move technically, and so when your body

451
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 1: feels that's more of a defense mechanism to just shut

452
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 1: all the way down. And my body did that. But

453
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 1: in so many words, that kind of saved me from

454
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 1: a lot of injury, because like if my body wouldn't

455
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 1: have liked just shut down, then say I braced myself

456
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 1: and then I break things, you know, because that's the

457
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 1: number one when people start breaking things when you brace yourself.

458
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 1: So my body like naturally shutting down kind of really helped,

459
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 1: but it could have really like messed a lot of

460
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 1: things up as well.

461
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you come down from being airborne and talk

462
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 2: me through what happens in the moments, minutes, hours that

463
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 2: happened after that.

464
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 1: I was out for like they say, a minute and

465
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Speaker 1: a half, two minutes I was I don't I technically

466
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: don't remember I keep hearing stories about it, so I

467
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 1: say it like I know, but no, I don't remember

468
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 1: that I was not, but I remember looking up and

469
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: we have banners, you know, you have you know, banners

470
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,679
Speaker 1: from winning, okay, But so I'm looking up at the

471
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: banners and like I'm in and out like it's foggy,

472
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: it's blurry. And then I hear like questions, which is

473
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: my trainer? You kept asking a questions And finally I

474
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 1: finally like I'm I'm like awake, and I'm like, give

475
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 1: me up because I'm the type of player that's like

476
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: give me off the court, like I'm I'm okay. So

477
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: I'm like I just can I get up? Like can

478
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 1: you move me off the court so they can keep playing?

479
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 1: And they and not everyone's looking at me like we

480
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 1: can just move me off the side, and he's like

481
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: did he okay? He's like you want to get up?

482
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: And I'm like yeah. He's like, well to get up,

483
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: and I'm just like okay, like I can't move and

484
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 1: he's like what and I'm like I can't fill my

485
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: my legs. And so immediately I'm scared, like if anybody

486
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 1: that's anything happens, like you know, I'm immediately trying to

487
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 1: hold tears back. I'm like, oh my god, really my legs.

488
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: I can't move my legs and at this time, my

489
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: left arm is completely numb, but I can move my

490
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: right arm. So I'm like, I'm so confused, like I want, like,

491
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: why can't I move? Like I can feel my arm,

492
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: but I can't feel my other arm, and he's like,

493
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: move your toes and I'm like I'm trying, Like so

494
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 1: this why I'm getting a little irritated. I'm like, I

495
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: really am trying. So we got to figure something out.

496
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: And he's like, Okay, just breathe. And so now he

497
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: thinks it's a neck injury because of what's happening, and

498
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: so he's my neck is stabilized. He's like, just don't

499
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: move his calm down. He's like he's really calm, but

500
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: you can tell that he's scared too. So now that's

501
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: scaring me. And then Coach Molki comes over there, who

502
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: is like the hardest person I know, and she's looking like,

503
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: are you okay? Everything's gonna be all right? Like who

504
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: she is, She's real supporting, like nothing's gonna happen. We're

505
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: gonna get you to the hospital. And I'm like, I'm

506
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: going to where like just just move me, Like why

507
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: can't I move? And she was like, no, we're gonna

508
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: get We're gonna get the ambulance. Scared, we're gonna call

509
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: the doctors. You just stay here and you be still

510
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: or whatever. And so I'm that part. After that part

511
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: and me going into the ambulance and me getto the

512
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: hospital is all like black, Like I just remember being

513
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: in the hospital after that, so like either I was

514
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: sleep but I know they gave me pain medicine, so

515
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if that knocked me out or so.

516
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: But got to the hospital and at this point, my

517
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 1: everyone's trying figure out where my mom is, where my

518
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: dad is, and my mom just landed in Atlanta, I

519
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 1: think she was going to and she's like what, like,

520
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: I'm coming out there now. So she got on the

521
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: next flight back, and so my dad and my brother,

522
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: like my dad got my brother out of school. They're

523
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 1: driving up this is like I mean at school out

524
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: of practice, and they're driving up because it's like early morning,

525
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: so they're like what's going on, Like what was happening?

526
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: So they drive out there. At this point, the doctors

527
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: are just like poking me, like trying to like move me,

528
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: and they're like do you feel it? And so me

529
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: being who I am, I'm looking like I'm like looking

530
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: so I can get out of the hospital. I'm at

531
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: a hospital girl. So I'm looking at him and when

532
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: he moves, I'm like yeah, but I know I can't

533
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: feel it. So I'm like crying and Alice was like

534
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: does it hurt? And I'm like no, I really just

535
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: can't feel it, like I'm just saying yes. And now

536
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: they're covering my eyes, so they put like a block

537
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: till I couldn't see it, and so they're like can

538
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: you can you feel it? Or they're like tell me

539
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: when you feel it, and I'm just like okay. So

540
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and I'm like are you doing it?

541
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: And he was like yeah. And so at this point,

542
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: they poked me so much with the needle that I'm

543
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: like bleeding because they're trying to figure out like was

544
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: like my nerve that I can fill or a nerve

545
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: that I can't feel, and it was just like it

546
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: was a lost cause. And so I'm going through a

547
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: lot of cts, a lot of MRIs, a lot of

548
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: different things at this point. It's where they finally admit

549
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: me to the hospital because you have to be able

550
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: to move yourself in order to leave a hospital. And

551
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm in there for a night. My brother stays the

552
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: night with me, and he's in distraught. My brother's like

553
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: my me and him are like the closest people ever.

554
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 1: He's nineteen younger than me, And when he started crying,

555
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: I was holding myself together. But when he started crying,

556
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: it was more so like, oh my god, I'm really

557
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: this is really happening right now, Like I can't believe

558
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: this is happening right now. And so I think that

559
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: was more of a reality slap in the face because

560
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: I was more so as like, I'm going to get

561
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: through this, right I'm I'm going to figure it out tomorrow.

562
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: Is going to be back when the next morning comes,

563
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: and my arm I can put my arm, so it's like, okay,

564
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: now we're moving. We're going to happen. So they bring

565
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: in this neurosurgeon in there, and he's just like it's

566
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: all subjective everything. This is final shock. He explains the

567
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: injuries to me, explains what it is, and explains that

568
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: it happens to a lot of people, but it's more

569
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: so on like impact of like waves for surfers or

570
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 1: football players getting hit, you know, but it says not

571
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: really common in basketball because it's not a high contact

572
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: sport like football. But the way we hit, he explained,

573
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 1: and he saw the video. He was like, I can

574
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: definitely see how this happened, and it's normal, but it's

575
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: not the normal recovery isn't the same for everyone, Like

576
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: he was basically explaining, some people will never come back,

577
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: some people come back in two years, some people come

578
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: back in months, weeks. It just depends. Everything's subjective. And

579
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: so I'm like, depends on like I gotta be strong,

580
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: Like what do I have to be? Like I'm trying

581
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: to figure out, like I have to be healthy, have

582
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: to eat this, what do I have to do in

583
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: order for it to be okay? And he's just like, no,

584
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: it's literally just when your body feels like it's safe

585
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: enough to wake up. So that's I think again, uncertainty

586
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: is what made it so annoying. It is just like

587
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: one day I can wake up and walk and the

588
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: next day I can Like, it doesn't make sense. So

589
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: I think that was the biggest thing for me.

590
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I mean what in incredible story.

591
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: Basically what you've described here.

592
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: As you're temporarily paralyzed, being that you can't walk, you

593
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 2: got some of this feeling back in your arm. It's

594
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 2: so interesting to me hearing you talk about like wanting

595
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: to look at them as they're poking you and make

596
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: it seem like you know that you're going to be okay.

597
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: Where do you think maybe that comes from, Like do

598
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 2: you think that you've always been someone that's been really

599
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: independent or do you think that was just kind of

600
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: like a fight or flight moment for you.

601
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: It's definitely me being like I'm not trying to be

602
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: in here or like me. It's more of a controlling

603
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: thing for me, you know, like I'm a bear controling

604
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: the person. So like I'm in this just this situation

605
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: that I can't control. So if I can find a

606
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: way to control where I am, then I'm going to

607
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: figure it out. And I think that was a lot

608
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: of like my downfall, but a lot of the reason

609
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,719
Speaker 1: why I, you know, got through the injury as well

610
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: as I did.

611
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: It's it's exactly what so many of us struggle with

612
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: doing when we come to these hurdles or any difficult

613
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: moment in life. So many of us, like we want

614
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 2: to find our own solutions without admitting that there are

615
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: other people that are gonna know better than us. There

616
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: are people like there's a reason for neurologists, you know,

617
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: like they know a lot of stuff that we don't know.

618
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: So to open ourselves up to that assistance when we

619
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: don't think that we want it, but we might need it,

620
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: that's like really scary.

621
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: It's crazy, and it's definitely a reason why I felt

622
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: like I felt the need to talk about my injury.

623
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: After like days I went by and like the people

624
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: I met like going to different like correct, Like I've

625
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: met people that were paralyzed like for a while, like

626
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: years since birth. I've met people like that, and I

627
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: watched them like have no hope, or I watched them

628
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: like in our sessions where I would be like literally

629
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: right next to someone that maybe had just was paralyzed

630
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: as well as me, but I have the mindset that

631
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be this way forever. They just

632
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: had no hope, and I was just like I want

633
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: to talk about this for people like that, Like I

634
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: want to get the people something to look forward to,

635
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, down the line. So I thought that was

636
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: the biggest thing for me, and it's honestly a huge

637
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: reason why I partner with Freaking Quest Rookie Challenge, because

638
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: they were so invested in finding three people that you know,

639
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: won their hearts basically and giving them a twenty thousand

640
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: dollars grant, you know, to further their quest and helping

641
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: themselves or helping their community. So all I love that

642
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: about questioning the rookie chance that they came up with,

643
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: and I just think that that was like the biggest

644
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: thing for me was getting that out.

645
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: Taking a break from today's episode to give some love

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Speaker 2: When do you think you turned the corner from maybe

695
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: being a little angry and like, how is this happening

696
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: to me?

697
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 3: To this isn't something that I'm going to live with

698
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Speaker 3: for the rest of my life.

699
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Speaker 1: I really it was more so my brother. Honestly, I was.

700
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: I was upset. I was definitely upset, and I felt

701
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: like I felt like there was no hope as well

702
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: and being with being the role model that my brother

703
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: looked up to and like being that person that he

704
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: kind of went to for everything. When I saw how

705
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: down he was, it was at it was a moment

706
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: where I was just like, man, forget it, Like this

707
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: stuff isn't working. I was trying everything, even freaking gquacamole.

708
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: They think that that's one of the things that helped.

709
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: Like I know, I was eating it like every all.

710
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: Day because I think they maybe just tell you that

711
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: so that like you have something good to do, Like

712
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: you know what you're not doing so hot, you should

713
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Speaker 2: some guacamole.

714
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Speaker 1: Freaking gucamole. So I'm like, I don't want to bualcamole

715
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: no where. Like I had just a moment for a second,

716
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: and so I look at him and I'm talking to

717
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: my dad right now, and I'm like, I don't want

718
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: to blacamole. And my brother he's he hates something to

719
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: say it, but he's a lot more emotional than me,

720
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: a lot more. But he's my younger brother, like he

721
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: was the young he was the little boy. So we

722
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: cradled him a bit a bit, and so he was

723
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: a lot emotional. And I looked over there and he

724
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: was fighting back tears because he just did not understand

725
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: what was going on. And like at that moment, it

726
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: became like a well, this is going to be something

727
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: else he looks up to me for or this is

728
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: going to be something else, like you know, I overcome

729
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: for him and me kind of thing.

730
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Speaker 2: When do you start to get feeling in your legs again?

731
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: I so it took me three days, I want to say,

732
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: to get out of the hospital. And it was literally

733
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: you have to be able to walk up a flight

734
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 1: of stairs in order to leave. And so my toes

735
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: started coming back, like in the the middle of the

736
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: first like day that I had been in the hospital,

737
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: Like my in for COVID, you can't have your whole

738
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: family in there. So my brother and my dad and

739
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: my mom were kind of cycling coming in and out

740
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: of the hospital, and my mom was in the hospital

741
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: and I took a nap. I woke up to her

742
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: and she remember she was gone. So I woke up.

743
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: My dad was with me, and then I went to sleep.

744
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: My mom was in and I'm like, oh my god,

745
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: like hey, and so I'm like, she gave me a

746
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: hug and like I could feel like a tingling in

747
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 1: my toe and I'm like, I'm like, mom, I think

748
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: my toe. I said, I think I can't feel my toe,

749
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 1: and she goes, what And so now she's calling the doctor.

750
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: You know, my mom, I already told you. So I'm like,

751
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: oh my god, Mom' like that's actual to perform a trick,

752
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: like I just really think I just feel like tingle

753
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: in my toe. So the nurse comes in there and

754
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: she goes, can you feel this, And she says, like

755
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: flicking my big toe and I'm like yes, I can

756
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: freaking feel it. And She's like, can you feel this

757
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: so that she's going down like my feet and I'm like, yes,

758
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: I can feel that, like I can feel it. And

759
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: so now my mom is like tearing up. I'm tearing up.

760
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna get out

761
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: of here, like I'm going to get out of this,

762
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: like I'm going to get up, and so we start.

763
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: She starts doing like little tickling tricks and I'm very ticklish,

764
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: like to where I was like, oh my god, like

765
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: I can feel it, like I'm that's that's there. And

766
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: so like it was like four am, five am. I

767
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: woke up and I had to peace so bad, and

768
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: so I'm like ringing the thing or whatever, and they

769
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: lift my leg and they rubbed like this the outside

770
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: of my leg and I was just like can you

771
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: do that again? I'm like can you? Can you just

772
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: and so I put my hand there and I'm just like,

773
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm okay. And so that's when I

774
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: was just like, you know, there's a God, Like I'm like,

775
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: there's that that We're going to figure this out, Like

776
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: if I just lean on you and everything, We're going

777
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: to figure it out. Plus there were scriptures everywhere because

778
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: again I go to Baylor, which is a back to school,

779
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: so that the scriptured all over the hospital, like on

780
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: the floor, on little little ceilings or on the side

781
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: of the walls or whatever. So I was reading the

782
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: score true that it was a lot going on. I

783
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: was very emotional, little coast for me. But it was

784
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: like the second day out in the hospital, I was

785
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: like bending a little bit more and I was it

786
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: was a little shaky, little wobbly, but I was, you know,

787
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: I could feel. So I think that was the biggest thing.

788
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: Talk to me about the feelings you had when you

789
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: got to be back with your team again for the

790
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: first time.

791
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: It was so random. It was like a random day.

792
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: Everything just turned on. Like I could feel like I

793
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: was signing my feet, I was going on ladder. It's

794
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: not it felt like, you know, the mode was about

795
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: to go. And then they were like, bid you can

796
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: jump in the drill, Like see if you can jump

797
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: in this drill. And it was like it was a

798
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: really like basic drill, but they're like, see if you

799
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: can do it. And it was just like some dribbling

800
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: drills up to half courting them back or whatever. And

801
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,479
Speaker 1: I think that was like it was just a light

802
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: like I was like, there's a light at the end

803
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: of this tunnel and I'm starting to see it, like

804
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: now I just got to keep going forward. So I

805
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: think it was it was, like I said, it was

806
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 1: very emotional. My teammates they were crazy throughout the whole

807
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: journey and to see them. I just felt like everybody

808
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: went through the injury with me and like it was

809
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: the deepest thing I could go through. Whether that was

810
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: like the Bayley fans or my coaches or my players,

811
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: like they were with me every step of the way

812
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: and you can feel that they were going through whatever

813
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: I was going through.

814
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 3: What was the timeline on that it was?

815
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: I want to say like a week and a half,

816
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: two weeks of being out of the hospital.

817
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: Wow, So this happened like relatively quickly.

818
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: It was so like it once. They basically idea of

819
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: everything is shock your body into like back into what

820
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: it was. So whether that's getting on a treadmill and

821
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: then falling on your face, then your body's gonna figure

822
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: it out. Like I don't want to do that again.

823
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: So that's how I looked at it when they would

824
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: explain it. That was like my forum of like, well,

825
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: you're telling me to jump off a building and if

826
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't land, then keep doing it because it'll figure

827
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: it out.

828
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: It'll figure it out. It'll figure it out.

829
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 2: So and you also mentioned that you were the opportunity

830
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: to like meet some really cool people. Do you remember

831
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: anyone in particular that really left an impact on you.

832
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: Still talk to him now. And so I didn't meet

833
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: him during the like the whole paralysis trip and like

834
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: the doctor trips and I I'm gonna say I'm not

835
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: gonna say the story. I'll say them with them sama Ja.

836
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: And I knew him. I know him because he was

837
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: going through a time where he reached out to me

838
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: and I read about him and all this stuff, and

839
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: he was a football player, and I was just like,

840
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: you're the best person I ever met in my life

841
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: because he called me and he still had you know,

842
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: his was way worse than mine. He had like a

843
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: speech problem as well, and so he went for him

844
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: to build up the strength to get on FaceTime with

845
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: me and talk to me. I was like in awe

846
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: and he became a hero, and like he he like

847
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: solidified the fact as to why I did what I

848
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: did and why I was okay with putting the videos

849
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: that were I had no hard to watch. So like

850
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: he was the reason why I did that for people

851
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: like him because he saw he still has hope for it.

852
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: He'll still like text me like I'm doing this better,

853
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm doing that better. And it's just like those some

854
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: days I need that and he's there. He's my hero

855
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: and a lot of my days.

856
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about the physical burdens.

857
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: I guess that would come hand in hand with not

858
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: only this temporary paralysis, but then on being then on

859
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 2: that comeback journey. But we haven't even touched much on

860
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: the mental side of things. I did see your your

861
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: CBS segment. I'd love for you to talk to me

862
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: a little bit about what that's been like for you,

863
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: what it's been like for you navigating the emotions and

864
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: so many of the thoughts that came hand in hand

865
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 2: with such a traumatic time.

866
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: It took a lot. I was in This is like

867
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: still a really hard conversation for me and it really

868
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: bothers me. But it it took me some time because

869
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: if you can hear, like like you see how fast

870
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: everything happened, and like so like if you can see

871
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: that everything happened so fast, and I wasn't able to

872
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: kind of deal with different emotions as like the right way.

873
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: I didn't put myself first in a lot of situations

874
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: where like I said, I was doing things for other people.

875
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: I was doing things to get back on the court

876
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: of my team. I was doing things because my I

877
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: didn't want to see my brother like that instead of

878
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: really locking into how I felt. So it was a

879
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 1: lot of you know, different specialists had to see because

880
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: people were kind of worried about me and how I

881
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: was handling things. They thought that it was more of

882
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 1: like a mask for what was deeper, and looking back,

883
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: it definitely is and it was, and I say it

884
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: is because it's something that I'm still getting through to

885
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: where it's conversations that I'm still having that I couldn't

886
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: have to pause or I have to like push them back,

887
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: to push them off to a different time. But my

888
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: psychologist basically says it's like a mental block for me

889
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: to where there's something that I don't I choose not

890
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: to talk about and I choose not to remember, but

891
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: they happened, and I feel like they didn't happen, And

892
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: I think this was one of the situations, like the

893
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: whole injury itself. Once I got back on the court,

894
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: I tried to erase it away, like everybody would talk

895
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: about it. I'm just like, what are you talking about?

896
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm back on the court, Like I don't need

897
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: to talk about that. It happened that's like a sprain ankle.

898
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: In my opinion, that's how I was taking it, which was,

899
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: you know, very bad. And that's why I am who

900
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: I am when it comes to like the mental aspect

901
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 1: of life, because I'm still battling something that I never

902
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: want anybody to feel. So I'm trying to go out

903
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: of my way for people to be okay with talking

904
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: to specialists, be okay with go into therapy, and be

905
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 1: okay with being themselves and being emotionally who you are

906
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: instead of trying to push everything off. So again, like

907
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: I said, it's still something.

908
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: I'm dealing with, Yeah, And I mean it would be

909
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: kind of weird if you weren't still.

910
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 3: Dealing with it.

911
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: I mean, it didn't happen all that long ago in

912
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: like your did you start seeking out talk therapy to

913
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: try to work through that?

914
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: No, it was. It was definitely recommended. A lot of

915
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: things have been recommended that I kicked myself in a

916
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: butt like even right now, I'm just like, it's a

917
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: lot of it's a lot of things that I could

918
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: have done a lot better, but I'm in the process

919
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: of doing them better right now. I'm definitely looking for

920
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: a different talk therapists through New York Liberty who have

921
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: done a great job at you know, making me feel

922
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: loved and making me feel that I'm not the only

923
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: one that has a battle or a hurdle to get

924
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: through in my life. And it's just about, like you know,

925
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 1: finding the right people that support you throughout the situation.

926
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: I think I'm around the right people now and I

927
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: was before. It's just now I'm trying to take advantage

928
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: of it.

929
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 2: There's like a moment that has to happen where you

930
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: have to get to this place that you're in right now,

931
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: Like you said it so well twenty seconds ago, like

932
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 2: I know that now I can do better. It's like

933
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 2: at any moment, you have the opportunity to make that choice,

934
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 2: to make that choice to go in a different direction.

935
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: And sometimes we get so frustrated or mad with ourselves

936
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: about how things have been that we deliberately choose not

937
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: to make a change right now, but understanding again that

938
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 2: like you can make that choice right now.

939
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: Yes that I couldn't said it better myself.

940
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 3: It's so empowering. It's so empowering.

941
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: And like you as a role model, like I said before,

942
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: like throwout like two hundred thousand at least combined social followers.

943
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: Like there's so many people and I'm sure you interact

944
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: with them every single day that like look to you

945
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: and your story and are just like so blown away

946
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: and inspired by you.

947
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I that comes with a lot of burden

948
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: because like.

949
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, let's talk about that. Let's talk about that.

950
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: It's I mean everyone, you know, they know this, they

951
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: know my story, they know me, and now I kind

952
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: of have to put on face all the time. Like

953
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: I feel like I can't have a bad moment. I

954
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: can't have a time where I have I go off

955
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: on social media because I'm angry or I you know,

956
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: that is also a maturity thing that comes with time.

957
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: But it's you kind of have to know that we're human,

958
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: like no matter whatever your role model, whoever your role

959
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 1: models to be Beyonce does a great job and looking

960
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: like the same person all the time. That comes again

961
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: with you know, time and experience. But like I said,

962
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm still a ricky. I've been I've had problems, I've

963
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: done some things and it's just like I just you know,

964
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: I live and I learned. But as I live and learn,

965
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: I noticed that with this, you know, with so much

966
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 1: is with so much, has given so much as expected.

967
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 1: So and that's that's me right now.

968
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

969
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: I mean the thing is, though, and like I love Beyonce,

970
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, but like I don't want to

971
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: like feel the pressure to like be that one dimensional

972
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: like that status quo all the time.

973
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: And like again, Beyonce is a queen, so I'm not like.

974
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 2: Sitting here shit talking her, but like there's so much

975
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: value to that vulnerability and it's just a lesson that

976
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: we have to learn. And that doesn't mean that like

977
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 2: everyone's going to be like obscenely comfortable like letting out

978
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: all of their you know, issues to the world.

979
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that you need to do that either,

980
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 3: but I am saying that.

981
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: Like it's a good and normal and like expected thing

982
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: for like life not to be perfect period.

983
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: Perfect period, Because like I said, Instagram false reality. I'm

984
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: trying to tell everybody, don't paint me to be the

985
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: person you see on Instagram because I will wear back

986
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: you sweats and a T shirt and not brush my hair.

987
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: I do not look like that. Twenty four seven. I

988
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: think that's my biggest thing right now. With social media,

989
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: I go through times where it's like I don't want

990
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: it no more, or I just want to delete it.

991
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: But I, like I said, this world is turning virtual.

992
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: So it's about more finding your life and you know,

993
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: getting it to understand social media and the normal life. Yeah.

994
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, So then talk to me about how you felt

995
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: on draft day, because what a freaking journey man, Like

996
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: you're we're still in co times. This draft is unlike

997
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: the other drafts that came before it, So talk to

998
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: me about what you thought was gonna happen on draft

999
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: Day after your journey.

1000
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: I was a nervous freck honestly, like I had just

1001
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: got hurt, like last the week before, so I had

1002
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: just like my hamstring was I felt like it was

1003
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: in two. I felt like I didn't have a hamstring.

1004
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: And they were just like you're gonna take time, it's

1005
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: gonna take months, and I'm just I don't have months,

1006
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: like I this is my new life, like I'm about

1007
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: to enter a new journey. I don't have months. So

1008
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: Draft day everyone, I was on National TV when I

1009
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: got hurt, so all the recruit all the scouts know

1010
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm hurt. So I'm like, Okay, I'm definitely not gonna

1011
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: get drafted high. I'm like, I'm hurt. I'm really up notworthy,

1012
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: Like now you have to nurse me back to health

1013
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: and hope that I'm just this person. So I was

1014
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: expecting the worst. I'm also on ESPN. I'm just like, oh,

1015
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: they only pack so many people to be on ESPN,

1016
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm like, oh my god, I'm gonna

1017
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: be like the last pick I want ESPN. Like this

1018
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: is so embarrassed. So I'm literally a nervous break. And

1019
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: then I finally got draft. I'm gonna go in and

1020
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: say I really wanted to get drafted to New York

1021
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 1: or LA just because of the opportunities in those cities

1022
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: and I want to be a model, so like it's

1023
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: just like those are the two cities that need to

1024
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: be in. So I go. I think I found out,

1025
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: like pick number eleven, that they're like d D New York.

1026
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: It's gonna take you at seventeen. Just be ready. And

1027
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm just like, why would you tell me? I wanted

1028
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: to be surprised, Like what's school? Why would you do

1029
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: that for me? You could have tell my dad, my mom,

1030
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: but you tell me? So I number they tell me

1031
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: at eleven, So I'm literally walking around my house like

1032
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, what pick are we at? And they're like fourteen.

1033
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: I'm like okay, so then I'm going to eat and

1034
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: what pick like sixties and I'm running over there. I'm

1035
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: trying to fix my makeup get for I'm like, what's

1036
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: my surprise space. I'm working on my surprise space the

1037
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: whole time. So like when they say your name, I surprised.

1038
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, but don't cry, because now it's going to

1039
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: look forwards, because you know, so I got they called

1040
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: my name and they're like it was New York, and

1041
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: I was still like to still hear it, like I

1042
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: was told that I was going to be pick number seventeen,

1043
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: but to hear my name being called by Kathy Nglberg,

1044
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I finally did it.

1045
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: I've been chasing this dream for what like ten years now,

1046
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: and now it's here, like it's it's finally here, like

1047
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: it's just at my hands now. So I don't know,

1048
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: it was. It was a beautiful moment, and then the

1049
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: waterworks started coming because it was like you really weren't

1050
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: supposed to be here, Like you really weren't supposed to

1051
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: be here, like you weren't supposed to walk Like a

1052
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: couple of months ago you are like, you know, scouts

1053
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: and recruising. You weren't supposed to go to Baylor. You know,

1054
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: people didn't think you were good enough. So it was

1055
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: just a lot that was like going, like just the

1056
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: naysayers in my head and then now I'm here, So

1057
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: I think it was just it was one of the

1058
00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: best ones in my life.

1059
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 2: That moment that you just said, like people didn't say

1060
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: that you were good enough. For someone who feels like

1061
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: they to struggle with that, maybe it's a comparison game.

1062
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just self inflicted, that negative self talk. What

1063
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 2: kind of advice do you offer to them to get

1064
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: through those challenging moments.

1065
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: The advice I live by, which is not letting anyone

1066
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: define your faith. Like I think that's my biggest thing

1067
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: that It's just it's always in my mind. I'm always

1068
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: thinking about it because, like I said, if I was

1069
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: to let the naysayers say that I wasn't gonna go

1070
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: to basketball, I mean it wasn't a college for basketball,

1071
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: then I wouldn't I wouldn't have tried anything, or I

1072
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't have tried to prove them wrong. Or if I

1073
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: would have let someone tell me that I wasn't gonna

1074
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: be able to walk, which they did, then I probably

1075
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: would have just I would have been like with no hope,

1076
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: no fate, no you know, want to do anything. So

1077
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: I think that's my biggest thing is just doing what

1078
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: you want, how you want to do it, and being

1079
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: unapologetically yourself no matter what, regardless of what the person

1080
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: next to you is saying. I think that's the biggest

1081
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 1: advice I can give any Ready, it's.

1082
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 3: Kind of like that moment like why not me? Right?

1083
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 2: I remember I was listening to a podcast this morning

1084
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: with Selene Flanagan and she heard about the six marathons

1085
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: all being at this end of the year, and she's like,

1086
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 2: someone should run all six of those, And then she

1087
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: had a moment and she was like, why don't I

1088
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 2: run all six of these marathons?

1089
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 3: Like why not me? You know? And I mean, that's

1090
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 3: a really crazy, freaking example.

1091
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 2: I think there are a lot of easier why not

1092
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: me moments that we can reflect on, but you're preaching

1093
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: it right here. It's like in any moment, like we

1094
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: all have the opportunity to be our own biggest hype woman,

1095
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: you know, Like, so what is it that you want?

1096
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: And like what's stopping you from being the person to

1097
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: go out and get after it?

1098
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: Exactly? And that's literally all it is.

1099
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: Quick hit here, I mean important moment we're talking about,

1100
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 2: like the WNBA draft, such an exciting moment for you.

1101
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the WNBA in general, and

1102
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: maybe it's more of like women's sports in general, right

1103
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: I recently wrote an article where I interviewed a bunch

1104
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: of female professional cyclists, and in cycling, for example, women

1105
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 2: are finally seeing the kind of pay that men are

1106
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: seeing in the professional cycling circuit and starting to get

1107
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: the media time that men have been getting for decades

1108
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: and decades and decades. How do you feel about the

1109
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 2: coverage of women's professional basketball right now and maybe where

1110
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 2: it's going.

1111
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: I think we'll forever be fighting. Whenever we see the

1112
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: day where we're equal or you know, to the same

1113
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: point as guys or men, I mean, I think it'll

1114
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: be a beautiful day. I think we should celebrate. But

1115
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: right now, I mean, it doesn't look it's getting better.

1116
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: Like I hate to be that person that's constantly like

1117
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: we need this, this and this and this and this

1118
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 1: and not you know, you know, kudos to the people

1119
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: that have gotten this here, Cannas Parker, Tina Thompson, freaking

1120
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: Lisa Leslie, you know, the people that went through the

1121
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: struggle for me now and now I want to go

1122
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: through the struggle for the people in the future because

1123
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: technically is it's a struggle. They've gotten this a lot,

1124
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: but it's still not enough. And I think that's the

1125
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: biggest thing for women is that if we stop here,

1126
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: then what did we do this for In a way, so, no,

1127
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: it's not where it should be. The women's coverage is

1128
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: not where it should be. But I think social media

1129
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: does play in my favor. I think social media for

1130
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: women is crazy. I think we kind of run the

1131
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: social media world right now, and I think we just

1132
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: need to take that under our belt. Like how they

1133
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: put our games on Twitter and they put our games

1134
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: on Facebook Live and stuff like that. I think that's

1135
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: good for us because now men see us in a

1136
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: new light, like they see us on social media, They're

1137
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 1: going to go google us, They're going to go find

1138
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: us on Instagram and stuff. So if you see me

1139
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: on Instagram, then you also see me pushing for my

1140
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: game that's going to literally appear on your phone, then

1141
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to look at it. So I think

1142
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: that's a good thing for us, and I just I

1143
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: don't know. I love the direction that's going though. I

1144
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: want to say that, although I hate it now, I

1145
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 1: love the direction is going.

1146
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: When you think back to those you know, one and

1147
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 2: a half two weeks where you were really going through

1148
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: the thick of it, like questioning everything in your life.

1149
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: If you had to think about maybe a piece of

1150
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 2: advice that was offered to you during that time, what

1151
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 2: comes to mind.

1152
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: Honestly, it's way like nothing to do with athletics. Someone

1153
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: literally just told me go get some ice cream, okay.

1154
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: So I remember like it was like day like four

1155
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: of me being out of the hospital and I was

1156
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: trying to ride a stationary bike. I couldn't. I just

1157
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: had to like rock and so it killed me and

1158
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: I was like in there crying like I don't know

1159
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do, like my life. I need my legs,

1160
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: like I just kept saying, Alex, I just need my legs, like,

1161
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: and I'm stuck. I can't even ride a bike, I

1162
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: can't walk. I need a walker and so someone it

1163
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: was a random person in the paralh Center that just

1164
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: walked like who was meeting with I want to say somebody.

1165
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: I don't know who it was, but they were just

1166
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: like I've been hearing about your story. I've been watching

1167
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: you walk in here every day and just go get

1168
00:54:55,400 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: some ice cream, and I'm just like, you're freaking right, like, oh,

1169
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: give some like just go like do something where your

1170
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: life is it? This isn't your job, Like your job

1171
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: right now is to play basketball. Go do something that

1172
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: doesn't evolve your job. And I think that was the

1173
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: biggest thing for me. So now I paint a color,

1174
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: I go get ice cream when I want. So I

1175
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: think that was just have some time to yourself. And

1176
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: that's how I took it when he said it. I

1177
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: don't know if you meant it that way, but I

1178
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: definitely took it way deeper than I should have because

1179
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: it was just go get some ice cream.

1180
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like how many times in like a regular

1181
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 2: day should I just like go up and metaphorically like

1182
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 2: get some ice cream? Like there's so much stuff in

1183
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: our day to day, Like you couldn't control the fact

1184
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: that you felt like you were like waddling on that bike,

1185
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 2: but you did have a moment to control yourself, like

1186
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: taking a walk to wherever you wanted to get your

1187
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 2: ice Could you have a favorite ice cream flavor?

1188
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 3: Should we know about this?

1189
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: I literally love anything cookies and cream, Oreos, vanilla, just.

1190
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 2: Plain, oh plain wow. Okay, you were getting real spicy

1191
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 2: over here. Just a plain girl, the complete opposite of plane.

1192
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 2: If you go to d D's Instagram, but on an

1193
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: ice cream flavor, note she likes to keep it.

1194
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: Play just cookies and cream like this.

1195
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 3: All right, respect, respect, no hate on that. Okay, we're

1196
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:18,959
Speaker 3: winding down here.

1197
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 2: Earlier, before you did mention your partnership with Quest, talk

1198
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: to me a little bit about that and why that's

1199
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 2: so meaningful for you.

1200
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: First off, just meaningful because it's my first deal ever

1201
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: and it's my What's beautiful about that is I grew

1202
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 1: up eating freaking Quest bars, So it's just like to

1203
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: be with Quest, signed with Quest, I was just like,

1204
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: heck you, my age brought it. That's me. So it's

1205
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: it's bigger and more beautiful because it's now having to

1206
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: do with something I believe in and something that I'm

1207
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: really passionate about, which is you know, supporting people's quests

1208
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: on different things in their community. They're doing a really

1209
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: good job at making rookies of any kind feeling encouraged

1210
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: and celebrated and supported, which as a rookie, I think

1211
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing. Because you're a rookie, you're in

1212
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 1: a different city, you're a different scenery, different team, different coaches,

1213
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: and pluses a good job at making us feel, like

1214
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: I said, celebrated, and I think that was big for me.

1215
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: And so basically, just enter this challenge at quest Rookie

1216
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: challenge dot com for a chance to win twenty thousand

1217
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: dollars to help for your personal community impact.

1218
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 3: And so I like it. I like it.

1219
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 2: And I earlier before you had mentioned that you wanted

1220
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: me in New York or LA because you want a model.

1221
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: I mean, we just had a rookie season here, but

1222
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: beyond that, like what do you see, you know, your

1223
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 2: future looking like?

1224
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 3: What do you see coming down the pipe for you?

1225
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: I hope modeling. I think my whole life people have

1226
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: tried to put me in like this, like one one

1227
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: like lane kind of thing like basketball, basketball, basketball, And

1228
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: I think mainly up here I've realized that you don't

1229
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: As a woman, as a person, you don't have to

1230
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: be identified as this one thing, you know, Like I'm

1231
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: a businesswoman who happens to play basketball. Technically, I went

1232
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: to school. I got a degree, just like everybody else.

1233
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: So I think that was my biggest thing. And so

1234
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: now I'm hoping I can do a little bit of everything.

1235
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: I want to get into cosmetics a little bit. I

1236
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: want to get into modeling and basketball, and I want

1237
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: to be able to say that I did all of that.

1238
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: And I think the biggest person I look at is Rihanna.

1239
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: Like she was a singer. She was a Caribbean singer.

1240
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: The really rare for her. You know, she could have

1241
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: really like killed what she was doing, which is being

1242
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: a Caribbean singers. Not many of her in this industry,

1243
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: and she was killing it. And then she decides to

1244
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: do makeup. Then she decides to do lingerie, that she

1245
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: decides to do skincare products, and now she has like

1246
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: her home, she's trying to put her own like fashion designer,

1247
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: you know, close together. So I think she definitely showed

1248
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: me that as a woman, as a person, as anything,

1249
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: you don't have to be just one one thing, you know,

1250
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 1: one trick on I want to be a multiple.

1251
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 3: Yeah me, multiple trick ponies, lots of ponies.

1252
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 2: I feel like you got a lot of tricks on

1253
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: the court, and you have a lot of tricks of

1254
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 2: your sleeve when it comes to off the court as well.

1255
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 2: Someone goes to your Instagram page, they see a beautiful

1256
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 2: woman with over one hundred and twenty three thousand followers,

1257
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 2: a basketball player going after her passions. Here when you

1258
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: look in the mirror, what is it that you see

1259
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 2: looking back at you?

1260
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: I see, you know, a confident person who had to

1261
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: teach themselves confident And I just want people to see me,

1262
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: and when they see me, they see someone who's unapologetically them.

1263
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: And I hope that I am able to show people

1264
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: that look like me, whether that's a woman, a little girl,

1265
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 1: a little black girl who wasn't doesn't feel like they're

1266
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: they're going to be somebody. They're like the nerves of

1267
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: the glasses real skinny mean. I just want you to

1268
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: know that your time is coming, stay patient, and you know,

1269
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: just be confident anapologically you at all times. I think

1270
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: that's my biggest thing, and that's just who.

1271
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 3: I am right now.

1272
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: You have an opportunity to offer yourself aside from go

1273
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: get some ice cream, some advice. Looking back on that

1274
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 2: hurdle moment, three, four or five days removed from the hospital,

1275
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: trying to get back to the woman that you knew

1276
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 2: before you got temporarily paralyzed.

1277
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 3: What do you tell yourself?

1278
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: You are not invincible? Okay? I literally I felt that

1279
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: I was on top of the world, that this is

1280
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: going to be, that this is my time, and there's

1281
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: something that can stop me. But things happen to people,

1282
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: and you're not control of what happens tomorrow. To live

1283
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: your life now and live your life looking at the

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Speaker 1: now and not the future.

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Speaker 2: Live in the now, Live in the now, Dedie Richards,

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Speaker 2: I'm so grateful to be one of your first official podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time. How do the

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Speaker 2: hurdlers follow along with you? How do they keep up

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Speaker 2: with you? Or do they get inspired by you? Give

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Speaker 2: me all your details.

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Speaker 1: Instagram, Twitter, TikTok. I'm trying to get back on YouTube

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Speaker 1: and I usually have the same name everywhere, which is

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Speaker 1: Dedie Ridge too.

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Speaker 2: Okay, amazing. I'm over at Emily a Body and at

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Speaker 2: Hurdle Podcast. Another Hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.