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Speaker 2: All right Io on ninety four LSU eighty seven in
Speaker 2: a rematch, I thought it was incredibly fast paced and fun.
Speaker 2: The game wasn't really it didn't feel that close. Iowa
Speaker 2: got more good looks, a lot of at Caitlin Clark
Speaker 2: forty one points nine for twenty on threes, twelve assists,
Speaker 2: and the assists are notable. Because you know, why do
Speaker 2: we have this explosion in women's college basketball? And I
Speaker 2: think there's two reasons of why you're getting this explosion.
Speaker 2: Number one is the quality of play is better. You
Speaker 2: can go back and watch the nineteen seventies NBA, and
Speaker 2: you can have Doctor J doing things that guys can't
Speaker 2: do now. I mean the athleticism in the NBA. You
Speaker 2: can go back to nineteen seventy five, nineteen eighty five
Speaker 2: men's college basketball. I'd argue it was better you had guys, like,
Speaker 2: you know, superstar players a team and Clyde Drexler staying
Speaker 2: for a third or a fourth year. Women's college basketball
Speaker 2: and the seventies and eighties did not look like this
Speaker 2: the players now, the distribution, the scoring, the finishing, the passing,
Speaker 2: the size, the speed of athletes, it's different. I YouTube
Speaker 2: tonight for fun. I YouTube nineteen eighty women's college basketball.
Speaker 2: It's just not the same sport. The passing, the ball movement,
Speaker 2: the cutting. It's clever and it's Tonight's game wasn't shippy
Speaker 2: at all, but there's, you know, some chippiness, some physicality,
Speaker 2: and it's enjoy to watch. I mean, folks, ninety four
Speaker 2: eighty seven, that's like a month, that's December scoring for
Speaker 2: Virginia men's basketball. How many games in this tournament have
Speaker 2: you watched on the men's side and thought, can we
Speaker 2: get to fifty? Can we get to fifty three? Even
Speaker 2: Duke was painful to watch. But the quality of looks,
Speaker 2: the quality of shots, and just the quality of distribution
Speaker 2: and movement is terrific. And a lot of that's because
Speaker 2: we have multiple generations now of women being encouraged to
Speaker 2: go be athletes. Wasn't the case in the forties, fifties,
Speaker 2: maybe in the sixties seventies. So the quality is really good.
Speaker 2: That's the first part. And the second thing women's college
Speaker 2: basketball is delivering and producing. What men's college basketball is
Speaker 2: not continuity. It's not a carousel great players and great
Speaker 2: rivalries year after year after year. People are creatures. I havebit,
Speaker 2: I eat the same four things for breakfast the last
Speaker 2: fifty years. I'm having an oatmeal, I'm having a smoothie,
Speaker 2: I'm having an omelet. You know, it's the same stuff,
Speaker 2: and people are creatures of had right our patterns. We
Speaker 2: like continuity, we like some predictability. And women's college basketball
Speaker 2: we get a rematch, We get Caitlin Clark for a
Speaker 2: second year, a third year, a fourth year. The best
Speaker 2: college men's players, it's a turnstile. Half of them don't
Speaker 2: even play college basketball. So this is why you can
Speaker 2: criticize the NBA you can criticize pro sports. There's been
Speaker 2: a lot of mobility in the NBA, but most of
Speaker 2: the Warriors have stayed. You know, the Jalen Brown and
Speaker 2: Tatum aren't going anywhere, Steph Clay, Draymond Green not going
Speaker 2: anywhere for a long time. Klay Thompson may move now.
Speaker 2: But I think it's delivering what men's college basketball doesn't,
Speaker 2: and there are a lot of people in this country
Speaker 2: that prefer the esthetic, the intensity, the competition, and the
Speaker 2: rivalries of college basketball or for pro basketball. I like
Speaker 2: the quality of NBA basketball, but I will say everybody
Speaker 2: plays the same way. There's not a lot of uniqueness.
Speaker 2: It's all dunks or threes, and I don't like load management.
Speaker 2: Clark is going to show up for every game. Angel
Speaker 2: Reese is going to show up for every game. So
Speaker 2: Caitlin was the difference tonight in this game, and that's
Speaker 2: usually the way it works in big games with superstars. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought this kind of lived up to the hype,
Speaker 2: and I think it was kind of an exhilarating, fun
Speaker 2: night of basketball that everybody enjoyed. And I think it
Speaker 2: captivated social media, It captivated the country, and you know,
Speaker 2: it's another thing I've said this, I grew up an
Speaker 2: NBA fan, so I'm from the Northwest, and the Sonics
Speaker 2: and the Blazers both got titles in the seventies. So
Speaker 2: in my area college basketball wasn't as good. The Huskies
Speaker 2: had Marv Harshman, the Beavers had Ralph Miller. They were
Speaker 2: winning programs, but the quality wasn't very good. And the
Speaker 2: Sonics and the Blazers were great. They were winning titles.
Speaker 2: So I was an NBA fan. I've got little, you know,
Speaker 2: newspaper cut out things all over this corked wall in
Speaker 2: my bedroom, and I think the NBA and baseball were
Speaker 2: my first love. But you know, one of the things
Speaker 2: about the NBA that I do think it's a bigger
Speaker 2: problem than anybody wants to acknowledge. The game is getting international.
Speaker 2: That's fine. Good basketball is good basketball. But I think
Speaker 2: load management's are real problem. And when I went to
Speaker 2: a Celtics Bulls game a couple of Saturdays ago in Chicago,
Speaker 2: three of the best players for the Celtics sat out.
Speaker 2: If you're going to sit out a game, sit out
Speaker 2: on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, those Friday and Saturday night games.
Speaker 2: Those are date nights. Those are big. That's when you
Speaker 2: know your son or your daughter don't have school the
Speaker 2: next day, and those are games that really really matter
Speaker 2: to a family. A lot of people. I'm one of them.
Speaker 2: I go to two NBA games a year just because
Speaker 2: of my schedule. Maybe three. This year I've been to two.
Speaker 2: I'm going to a Knicks Bulls game this weekend or
Speaker 2: this Friday in Chicago. But I think it matters. And
Speaker 2: watching the women tonight, I'm like, like I knew multiple
Speaker 2: starters for teams, continuity, repetition, predictability, storylines. That's why ninety
Speaker 2: percent of the revenue in cinema today is remakes and sequels.
Speaker 2: You know, people want to be invested in a plot,
Speaker 2: so this is the big rematch. I just I think
Speaker 2: it's really important. I think Adam's Silver has been a
Speaker 2: bit two player friendly and accommodating. But I thought a
Speaker 2: big part of tonight is we all knew who. We
Speaker 2: knew it was Angel Rees and Kim Moulkey and Caitlyn Clark,
Speaker 2: and we knew the rivalry and it got testy and
Speaker 2: chippy last year. It's a big part of sports, it's
Speaker 2: a big part of movies. Remakes, sequels, and it was
Speaker 2: fun and the game flew by. Refs got out of
Speaker 2: the way. Mostly, I thought, between Juju Watkin is at USC,
Speaker 2: Angel Rees Caitlin Clark. The only men's basketball player that
Speaker 2: rivals that in terms of star power is Zach Edie
Speaker 2: for Purdue. And I do think Yu Kon is a
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're historically great. They're great for
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. They're great for men's basketball, but I
Speaker 2: think three of the four biggest stars in March have
Speaker 2: been on the women's side. And you know, we can
Speaker 2: talk about the purity of the game, and we love
Speaker 2: the game. America love stars. We're a very fast paced,
Speaker 2: frenetic society. We're all distracted. We've all got on our phones.
Speaker 2: You know, we're doing a million things. We like stars.
Speaker 2: Stars get us to a theater, they get us to
Speaker 2: a game, and Caitlyn Clark has that kind of power.
Speaker 2: I mean, now, Angel Reese is great too, but Caitlin
Speaker 2: Clark's kind of unique shooting range. I was joking on
Speaker 2: social media. Her shooting range is somewhere around Hey, I'm
Speaker 2: driving to the arena. I'll be there soon. Some of
Speaker 2: her shots are just insane, not even sure they're good
Speaker 2: shots going or not, They're just shots that she takes
Speaker 2: and with relative ease. So the star power matters. You
Speaker 2: can talk about the quality of anything, but brands matter.
Speaker 2: Star power matters, and Caitlin Clark has it. I was
Speaker 2: trying to think during the first half of the game.
Speaker 2: I was kind of googling and thinking about the biggest
Speaker 2: stars in the history of college basketball, and that the
Speaker 2: first big star to me was Pat Summit, and then
Speaker 2: there was you know, Nancy Lieberman, and then Cheryl Miller,
Speaker 2: and then then the Yukon was sort of a collective.
Speaker 2: I do think Maya Moore is about as good as
Speaker 2: players I've ever seen. It was either coach or program
Speaker 2: or Cheryl Miller, Caitlin Clark, I think is is just
Speaker 2: a comment and like, you know, what's also great about
Speaker 2: it is it's almost like I was watching the Steve
Speaker 2: Martin documentary the other day, and you know, all movie
Speaker 2: stars have ups and down, even Marlon Brando, Tom Hankstanzel,
Speaker 2: good movies, bad movies. The thing about Caitlin Clark is
Speaker 2: she just keeps delivering every time, Like every time I
Speaker 2: tune in, like tonight, You're like, Okay, she'll have thirty
Speaker 2: one forty one twelve assists, and she just it's like
Speaker 2: it would be like having, you know, six sequels to
Speaker 2: a movie, and everyone's better than the next. So that's rare.
Speaker 2: Everybody has stinkers, Brady Mahomes, It's got kind of a
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods feel to it. She's got kind of like
Speaker 2: every time I watch and anticipate, she just delivers. And
Speaker 2: women's college basketball this year has really done that. I
Speaker 2: had a blast for the last two hours watching that game,
Speaker 2: two and a half hours, and I hope you did
Speaker 2: as well. Congrats to IOWA and LSU's a hell of
Speaker 2: a team. Kim Molki can drive a lot of people
Speaker 2: in the media nuts, but doesn't she have two natties
Speaker 2: two different schools. That's pretty good. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Coach.
Speaker 2: Listen, college coaches have a lot of power on a campus.
Speaker 2: They have a right to an opinions, even if I
Speaker 2: don't agree with them. And as a sportscaster, you're always
Speaker 2: looking for big games. NFL season mondays are easy shows.
Speaker 2: I'm always looking for big games in the offseason. So
Speaker 2: thank you to women's basketball, LSU and Iowa and Kaylin
Speaker 2: Clark and Angel Rees for delivering a great night of entertainment.
Speaker 2: We talk a lot about these quarterbacks, and I have
Speaker 2: said before that I think Cayleb Williams is the most
Speaker 2: talented and like an Andrew Luck, he will succeed at
Speaker 2: some level even if he got their own coach gm
Speaker 2: O line roster. And I do think Ryan Poles has
Speaker 2: had He's redeemed himself. He's had a very good to
Speaker 2: nine months, so I think he may have the right
Speaker 2: former offensive lineman looks like the O line. There's some
Speaker 2: hits there with his draft capital the last three years.
Speaker 2: But let's go. Let's let's reverse the telescope. If I
Speaker 2: said to you, we know of these top five or six,
Speaker 2: two are not going to work. We know it right now.
Speaker 2: And I've said I think Caleb's good enough to overcome
Speaker 2: everybody else will be as good as where they land.
Speaker 2: I think JJ McCarthy in New England is a bust.
Speaker 2: I think JJ McCarthy in Minnesota with that talent and
Speaker 2: coach that division which is light on defense, heavy on scoring, works.
Speaker 2: If I said to you, guess give me two that
Speaker 2: if you had to put the odds on, it won't work.
Speaker 2: See now, I think Boone Nicks is going to fall
Speaker 2: and ended up falling to like a McVeigh or a Peyton.
Speaker 2: You know, I kind of think bon Nicks is not
Speaker 2: talented enough to overcome, whereas I think Jaden Daniels isn't either,
Speaker 2: But he's going to go to three or four and
Speaker 2: that's problematic. So I would get Jade and Daniels to
Speaker 2: me is like, oh no, I think he can succeed,
Speaker 2: but the top three quarterbacks are going to defensive coaches
Speaker 2: working with new OC's three for three. So give me
Speaker 2: the guy that you worry about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to me, he'd have to be first given. You know,
Speaker 4: I don't want to. It's unfair to compare him to
Speaker 4: a guy who's won two MVPs. But his game is
Speaker 4: parallel some of Lamar. Right now, he throws it pretty.
Speaker 4: He probably throws it better outside the hashes down the field,
Speaker 4: but I do think that type player. Early on in
Speaker 4: his career, Lamar went to the Ravens, who literally pivoted
Speaker 4: mid season, changed their whole offense around. It's not just
Speaker 4: one of the highest level, you know, sports teams, like
Speaker 4: one of the higher level business is probably in America.
Speaker 4: The way they've operated for twenty plus years, so he
Speaker 4: got I know, it sucks fall into thirty two, but
Speaker 4: he got pretty lucky. Jade Daniels, that's probably not gonna happen, right,
Speaker 4: He's going to go in the top five, and more
Speaker 4: than likely you're not getting a competent operation. So if
Speaker 4: he goes to the New England page, that's pretty scary.
Speaker 4: I mean, their offensive talent is a disaster. Listen, I'm
Speaker 4: not trying to judge you on the coaches picture, but
Speaker 4: Jeron Males wearing like a T shirt, he looked disheveled.
Speaker 4: I know he's a high level, impressive guy, but I
Speaker 4: don't know. Man. I'm saying that tongue in cheek, but
Speaker 4: in all seriousness, the drop off that's about to come
Speaker 4: from Bill Belichick to what's going on the crash refused
Speaker 4: to name a general manager. Elliot Wolf's kind of doing it.
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a rough go for that.
Speaker 4: And then the JJ McCarthy. My comfort Enid is Alex Smith.
Speaker 4: Alex Smith has success when he had Jim Harbaugh and
Speaker 4: Andy Reid. One guy's basically a chubbier version of Bill
Speaker 4: Walsh and Jim Harbaugh is one of the more successful
Speaker 4: college NFL coaches we've ever seen. When he had Mike
Speaker 4: Nolan and Mike Singletary, it was a disaster. They were
Speaker 4: chanting for David Carr. So that that's very fickle, right.
Speaker 4: Certain physical talents like Josh Allen probably would have succeeded
Speaker 4: no matter what. Right, he's just physically too gifted. Even Herbert,
Speaker 4: even as down years ago, I still see a lot there.
Speaker 4: Two was a good example, kind of like Jared Goff,
Speaker 4: much less physical attributes. When it's not going well, you're like,
Speaker 4: what the hell is this? Good coaching, good offensive weaponry.
Speaker 2: Good contection. Golf, Yeah, two and golf are very much
Speaker 2: about protection and coach Herbert has gone to the playoffs
Speaker 2: and has yet to get even a remotely competent coach.
Speaker 4: And I would take Jared Goff all day over to
Speaker 4: it just on the simple fact he's bigger. I think
Speaker 4: he just throws the better ball. And on the flip side,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know if you saw all those
Speaker 4: numbers from Pennix, but you and I have talked about
Speaker 4: this before, a lot of comparisons to to A and
Speaker 4: then you see him run like a four or five five,
Speaker 4: and he jumps thirty seven inches, and I think Kobe
Speaker 4: jumped thirty six. So I'm not comparing him as an
Speaker 4: athlete to Kobe Bryant, but he's a really good athlete. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean that's so I know, you don't see it
Speaker 4: as much on film because he wasn't asked to play
Speaker 4: that way they had, you know, I think they thought
Speaker 4: they had the best offensive line in the country. Then
Speaker 4: they met Michigan, but they had an excellent offensive line, right,
Speaker 4: So he wasn't getting touched. I think he was only
Speaker 4: sacked like what eleven times. It's like averaging less than
Speaker 4: one a game. But he clearly can move right. So
Speaker 4: you could get a guy in some of these Shanahan
Speaker 4: offenses or Sean Payton to get him on the move
Speaker 4: a little bit. He has it in him. I clearly
Speaker 4: his film as a pocket passer is pretty special. Questions
Speaker 4: with injuries, that's scary. But I heard a podcast probably
Speaker 4: within the last six months of Dubor talking about when
Speaker 4: he first got to Indiana and they recruited him. Was
Speaker 4: he was recruited as more of a dual threat guy,
Speaker 4: and then he had the injuries and they just got
Speaker 4: away from it. But he physically I was pretty. That
Speaker 4: was an eye opening experience to see those. I would
Speaker 4: have guessed he's like a four to eight guy and
Speaker 4: not a great athlete, but he's not like Tua. Remember
Speaker 4: he hurt his hip his last year in college, so
Speaker 4: he couldn't work out. He ain't running a four or five.
Speaker 4: He ain't sniffing and listen to. Was a pocket quarterback,
Speaker 4: which I thought Penix was too. But you see these
Speaker 4: athletic numbers, kind of like the CJ. Stroud. Now he
Speaker 4: did it more on film in that Georgia game. But
Speaker 4: one thing we know about CJ. Pocket quarterback but has
Speaker 4: athletic attributes to kind of move around when it hits
Speaker 4: the fan, which in the NFL it inevitably does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think JJ McCarthy only works if he goes
Speaker 2: to like, let's say a Minnesota. I think that that's
Speaker 2: a furnished apartment for a young quarterback. Everything set up.
Speaker 2: They don't have to pay rent for a year. Donold's
Speaker 2: paying rent for a year. He'll take the hits and
Speaker 2: the bruises. Then you step in the Giant Pennicks. Oh,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like anybody to the Giants. I
Speaker 2: don't like anybody, right, now to the Giants. So I
Speaker 2: would say, Pennix to my Miami to be the next two,
Speaker 2: Pennix to Seattle Works. I think they're kind of ready
Speaker 2: to roll his offensive coordinator. I think McCarthy and Minnesota Works.
Speaker 4: To Rams is a sleeper for him.
Speaker 2: Well, the Rams a sleeper for a lot of people.
Speaker 2: So they're one of those teams that has been very
Speaker 2: successful without first round picks. This is their first first
Speaker 2: round or in a long time, and they're at nineteen.
Speaker 2: I could see the sliding down if bon Nicks is
Speaker 2: there and you start I've been in a war room
Speaker 2: before you have, and you slide down and you're like, well,
Speaker 2: the next four teams don't need quarterbacks. If it's you know,
Speaker 2: at nineteen, you're getting into like Dallas May, but they
Speaker 2: need some pieces. I could see the Rams going and
Speaker 2: saying we're gonna take bon Nix and he's gonna sit
Speaker 2: for two years. I could totally see that happening. So
Speaker 2: I think bon Knicks to me again like a Panix,
Speaker 2: like a JJ McCarthy, it's going to be the spot.
Speaker 2: But bone Knicks may be the luckiest of all because
Speaker 2: the truth is if he goes and I think he
Speaker 2: probably will. I think Denver is the last chance for him.
Speaker 2: Then there's gonna be a long stretch of people that
Speaker 2: aren't going to move up. Like if you start looking
Speaker 2: at the teams that need quarterbacks, it's not a surprise
Speaker 2: they're mostly in the top twelve and thirteen. That's why
Speaker 2: they're bad teams. Yeah, so I think bone Knicks. I
Speaker 2: think the Rams would roll the dice on bon Knicks
Speaker 2: because the stets in Bennett didn't work. Stafford feels like
Speaker 2: he's heard at least once or twice a year that
Speaker 2: one's interesting. This draft does feel like to me, it's
Speaker 2: got about five guys. I don't see Marvin Harrison Junior missing.
Speaker 2: I think he's just I don't think Brock Bowers is missing.
Speaker 2: Joe Alt. Those guys jump out to me. Is the
Speaker 2: kid at Oregon State, the right tackle who like you
Speaker 2: can't find bad tape on him. It does feel like
Speaker 2: this draft. But like the there are players in this draft.
Speaker 2: I think sometimes receivers can be very dependent on the
Speaker 2: environment and the quarterback. Quarterbacks are very dependent on several people,
Speaker 2: including the play caller. But if I said to you
Speaker 2: two guys in the draft, as a former scout because
Speaker 2: I always thought Patrick willis the ole miss linebacker. I
Speaker 2: was told by a GM thirty two teams he'd worked for.
Speaker 2: I was told Aiden Hutchison out of Michigan, Like that's
Speaker 2: going to work. I'm trying to think of somebody else.
Speaker 2: Calvin Johnson, was Fitzgerald, Julio Jones. I mean, the right
Speaker 2: they're gonna work is give me the two guys here.
Speaker 2: Let's say they go to a lousy situation. You cannot
Speaker 2: see failing.
Speaker 4: What I don't see how it's possible for a kid
Speaker 4: from Napa, California to go to the best program in
Speaker 4: the country at Georgia and brock Bauers, I would say
Speaker 4: pretty immediately as a freshman in the definitely the most
Speaker 4: athletic conference in the country, was one of their best players,
Speaker 4: and by year two or three, he's arguably the best
Speaker 4: player in the country pound for pound, as good as.
Speaker 2: Anybody, most productive tight end I've ever seen in college.
Speaker 4: So you get this guy that goes It would have
Speaker 4: been easy for a West Coast guy go to Oregon,
Speaker 4: go to USC, even in Oklahoma or Texas. Snuckle. He
Speaker 4: went all the way to where the pressure was brightest
Speaker 4: and dominated I don't see, and I know there's comparison
Speaker 4: that doesn't really block. Well, the game's changed a lot.
Speaker 4: We have a lot more of these hybrid tight ends,
Speaker 4: a lot more of the Travis Kelcey style. He's very
Speaker 4: like any receiver dependent on a quarterback to throw them
Speaker 4: the ball. Obviously, but how's he not going to be
Speaker 4: a good NFL pro? I saw some of his measurables
Speaker 4: they put right next to laporta very similar size, a
Speaker 4: little harder to judge. I think sometimes those big ten
Speaker 4: tight ends because you're like, well, who's the you know,
Speaker 4: defenders he playing against? There's no debate think about the
Speaker 4: guys he went and practiced against Colin. If I was
Speaker 4: a scout, I wouldn't even need to watch game table, Like,
Speaker 4: can I just get your Georgia practice tape from a
Speaker 4: year ago?
Speaker 3: Your entire draft when the you know, eleven guys.
Speaker 4: On defense wet uh? So I think they had eighteen
Speaker 4: guys on defense go over a two year span. I
Speaker 4: can't imagine Kirby's like, yeah, we couldn't cover him there either,
Speaker 4: So I don't see how it's possible. The I was
Speaker 4: texting about sometimes height at tackle, like there's six ' six,
Speaker 4: like a Trent Williams, Jason Peters. I think Lane Johnson sixt' five,
Speaker 4: like six ' eight, six ' nine, can get a
Speaker 4: little tall because Von Miller or Nick bost of these
Speaker 4: guys where they are to the ground, it's just hard
Speaker 4: to touch them. But from what I've heard about Joe
Speaker 4: allt it's just his athleticism. I just don't see how
Speaker 4: he's not gonna be good now. The one thing with him,
Speaker 4: because I was texting, I was like, should the Chargers
Speaker 4: if they get stuck, just take them. They're like, well,
Speaker 4: you already get the left tackle. Just get a touchdown
Speaker 4: guy for Herbert. You can get a right tackle maybe
Speaker 4: in the second round. You've already got that position. You
Speaker 4: don't need to force it. If you do get stuck there,
Speaker 4: just take whoever you think the best skilled guy is.
Speaker 4: And there are some talented guys, and most people believe
Speaker 4: the three wide receivers, and you and I talked about
Speaker 4: I saw James Jones, which I understand a lot of
Speaker 4: the players are like, God, it's bullshit. Marvin Harrison isn't
Speaker 4: doing anything. When all the other guys worked out, all
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks, all the wide receivers. I heard neighbors at
Speaker 4: the LSU pro day, which I don't know if you
Speaker 4: saw some pictures I think was a zoo of NFL people. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, Marvin, wats this because he you know,
Speaker 4: he thinks he's gonna go number one. I defend Marvin
Speaker 4: in the sense he's everything he's doing is because his
Speaker 4: dad's telling him. And when your dad's in the Hall
Speaker 4: of Fame, if he tells you jump, you say how high?
Speaker 4: So it's like, I don't believe it's his own choice.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's not agreeing to it, but what's
Speaker 4: he supposed to do? Tell his dad? He doesn't know
Speaker 4: what he's talking about. But that that neighbors Connie ran
Speaker 4: a four. He's a fantastic tape I mean, dominating the
Speaker 4: SEC ran a four to three five and jump forty
Speaker 4: two inches. I mean pretty rare athlete. So you know,
Speaker 4: it's hard. I don't know what to gauge on Harbaugh.
Speaker 4: I think I said you and I talked about this
Speaker 4: last week about the wide receivers, and someone hit me up,
Speaker 4: like the Ravens have taken wide receivers over the years. Yeah,
Speaker 4: in the twenties when they're good, when they've drafted high.
Speaker 4: Told Nada it's Ronnie Stanley now that I don't know
Speaker 4: if that guy's really here, right. There's not a great
Speaker 4: pass rusher in this the Bama guy, I don't think
Speaker 4: he's viewed as a top ten player. Like we talked about,
Speaker 4: they don't need a left eckle. You could, I guess,
Speaker 4: take the Oregon State guy. There probably be a little
Speaker 4: rich but I don't know. You know, if Harbaugh didn't
Speaker 4: take Marvin Harrison. He's seen him back to back years,
Speaker 4: right and see him on crossfilm for three years at Michigan,
Speaker 4: that'd be a little interesting, neighbors is from what you know.
Speaker 4: He's had some incidents over the years, but his talent.
Speaker 4: I think they feel he's pretty buttoned up right now.
Speaker 4: Rome honestly feels kind of like a Harbaugh guy. But
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think the Chargers are fascinating, But yeah,
Speaker 4: I would go Brock Bowers. I don't see how he's
Speaker 4: not if you got if you gave him a if
Speaker 4: you just put him on the Chargers, which I don't think,
Speaker 4: you know that he would immediately make like nine ten
Speaker 4: you know, ish million dollars in a tight end. The
Speaker 4: franchise tags twelve, So ideally taking a tight end that high,
Speaker 4: you're already paying him premium money. But I think he'd
Speaker 4: be a premium player immediately. I think he would dominate.
Speaker 4: If you told me Brock Bowers on the Chargers next year,
Speaker 4: I'd be like, he catches eighty eight.
Speaker 2: Balls when you nine touchdowns. I mean, here's the other thing.
Speaker 2: Letting Gerald Everett go to the Bears. They don't have
Speaker 2: I mean, they're they're they're well below average in the
Speaker 2: NFL at tight end. And so and Herbert I mean,
Speaker 2: can you imagine him having a six to six target,
Speaker 2: you know, because he was so he's been so effective
Speaker 2: with Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. I mean, so he's
Speaker 2: one of those guys that will throw guys open. A
Speaker 2: lot of young quarterbacks, don't hew he throws young guys open.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: I first heard of Danny Parkins from Nick Wright, who
Speaker 2: had said, Hey, I work with this guy. And then
Speaker 2: I go to Chicago regularly and listened, and I thought, Wow,
Speaker 2: this guy's about the best young guy I've heard in
Speaker 2: the country. So I did sports radio for a while
Speaker 2: and then I wanted to create mostly out of survival.
Speaker 2: When I was at ESPN, I said, guys, I've got
Speaker 2: to create a simulcast. AM radio is not a dynamic
Speaker 2: next ten year horizon. And so ESPN did not think
Speaker 2: I was talented enough to be on ESPN two. Apparently,
Speaker 2: so I said, all right, well, jettison this place. I
Speaker 2: do appreciate it and things have gone well. But when
Speaker 2: I went to television, I always did a show with
Speaker 2: a lot of football. But I think I have moved
Speaker 2: in the direction of more football. Part of that is
Speaker 2: when you can see a TV number every day, you
Speaker 2: see what's working and you see what's not, and football
Speaker 2: almost always works. Secondarily, though big beat small scale beats
Speaker 2: up boutique, the NFL makes everything now look small. I
Speaker 2: think it's well run. I think sports gambling helps. I
Speaker 2: think it's better on television. I think other leagues have
Speaker 2: made mistakes. One and done. Is her college basketball mends anyway?
Speaker 2: What percentage of your show? Mind about seventy percent NFL.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be in the NFL network, I
Speaker 2: pushed back. I've talked to a lot of college basketball
Speaker 2: in the last two or three weeks. What percentage of
Speaker 2: yours is NFL.
Speaker 1: Obviously, it depends on the time, right, I mean, we're
Speaker 1: Cubs Opening Day. We're doing a ton of Cubs. We're
Speaker 1: the home of the Cubs. But even leading into that,
Speaker 1: the Bears have been the dominant storyline with the last
Speaker 1: two years having the number one overall pick. They're the
Speaker 1: biggest story in the NFL for the offseason, so obviously
Speaker 1: they're the biggest story here. So even with a two
Speaker 1: team town, there's only three cities that have two baseball teams,
Speaker 1: Baseball on the radio is still incredibly powerful. You know,
Speaker 1: the Cubs are the biggest client to my radio station,
Speaker 1: six seventy four by far. We're still and I wish
Speaker 1: the number was higher. My co host is a bigger
Speaker 1: baseball guy. It's over fifty percent for football, even in
Speaker 1: opening day week with two teams in town, because it's
Speaker 1: all about Caleb Williams and the ninth pick and are
Speaker 1: the Bears on the com and all of that, and
Speaker 1: the other thing, at least in this market that I
Speaker 1: would say is football's the great unifier. When I was
Speaker 1: growing up kid in the nineties in Chicago, the Bulls
Speaker 1: were king. The Blackhawks weren't even on TV, But there
Speaker 1: were people that were Blackhawks fans and not Bulls fans,
Speaker 1: even at that period of time, and certainly when they
Speaker 1: had their dynastic run with three titles, the Hawks kind
Speaker 1: of overtook the Bulls as being the toughest ticket in
Speaker 1: town and that sort of thing. Cubs in white, Sox split,
Speaker 1: Blackhawks and Bulls split. Everybody cares about the Bears. Everybody
Speaker 1: has an opinion on the Bears. And for the national
Speaker 1: side of it, yeah, sports, gambling, yeah, fantasy. But I
Speaker 1: think like the simplest way to explain it is that
Speaker 1: it's every game matter. It's one of seventeen and no
Speaker 1: other league has that. If I miss Bulls Hawks and
Speaker 1: I don't talk about it on the show the next day,
Speaker 1: we don't get a single text call or tweet being like, hey,
Speaker 1: you missed this really important thing. Because if a really
Speaker 1: important thing happens, I see about it on social media,
Speaker 1: it cuts through we talk about it.
Speaker 2: But if you came on the Monday after.
Speaker 1: A Bears Packers game, or a Bears Lions game, or
Speaker 1: a Bears Jaguars game, or a Bears Bucks game, whomever,
Speaker 1: even if they were five and ten, and you didn't
Speaker 1: do four hours on the Bears game, the ramifications who
Speaker 1: played well, who didn't, who's going to get fired, who's
Speaker 1: going to get extended? All those things, people would think
Speaker 1: you were insane. So it's the great unifier. And the
Speaker 1: thing that it has is that every game matters, and
Speaker 1: the rhythm of it, I think is great. You play
Speaker 1: a game on Sunday, you react on Monday. The coach
Speaker 1: and the quarterbacks speak on Monday, and quarterback speaks on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: You start looking ahead to the next then there's a
Speaker 1: Thursday night game. Teams in your division matter. It's just
Speaker 1: a for local sports radio, national TV. There's just such
Speaker 1: a great rhythm to football.
Speaker 2: So I didn't like Ryan Poles initially, Velis Jones, I
Speaker 2: watched them at USC could not track the ball. I
Speaker 2: mean that, I literally text you GMS and I'm like,
Speaker 2: he doesn't know what he's doing. That he can't play.
Speaker 2: He's a point that he can't play. So I watched
Speaker 2: USC maybe more than Ryan Poles. And then there was
Speaker 2: the Chase Claypool, which I defended because of the body type,
Speaker 2: but Chase ended up going sideways and not being very mature.
Speaker 2: And so my takeaway is I don't trust, the ownership,
Speaker 2: Ryan Poles, Matt Eberflus, and then probably knowing he butchered
Speaker 2: VELAs Jones, and knowing that there are certain things about
Speaker 2: offense like line play. I think he's drafted it pretty
Speaker 2: well that he knows. He went and got DJ Moore,
Speaker 2: he went and got Keenan Allen and moved Mooney and
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, and then he brings in Gerald Everett
Speaker 2: and he's swift, who's a good he can catch the
Speaker 2: ball to the backfield, and I'm like, oh, no new information.
Speaker 2: I think Ryan Poles knows what he's doing. I think
Speaker 2: his last six move, I love the Monte Sweat move.
Speaker 2: It got heat. But I'm like, folks, there's nobody in
Speaker 2: the second round as good as Montes.
Speaker 1: Sweat, right, and no guarantee you to get him in
Speaker 1: free agency. That's right, But what is the takeaway? Because
Speaker 1: the Bears Eberflus has been criticized, the ownership has where
Speaker 1: is everybody sitting on your GM, which in football is
Speaker 1: such a substantial position because the rosters are so big
Speaker 1: and there's so many moves to make. I don't know
Speaker 1: how you could have any grade on him other than
Speaker 1: an A. It doesn't mean that he's perfect, and you've
Speaker 1: listed a few of the big misses, like Dayles Jones
Speaker 1: is the first offensive player that he ever selected, But
Speaker 1: it was in the third round. Teams miss on third
Speaker 1: round picks all the time. Chase Claypool, it was a
Speaker 1: panic move. It was I'm trading away Rokwan Smith. I'm
Speaker 1: trading away Robert Quinn. I'm carrying the most dead cap
Speaker 1: space of any team in the league. But I am
Speaker 1: trying to be fair to Justin Fields, who an eleven
Speaker 1: out of ten as a person, and I'd like to
Speaker 1: figure out if I have something here, I've got to
Speaker 1: give him something. And he overtraded for the traits of
Speaker 1: Chase Claypool, and I think he undervalued the personal stuff
Speaker 1: because then when he learned the mistake from that and
Speaker 1: he trades for Montes Sweat, there were a lot of
Speaker 1: people saying, trade for Chase Young off that defense line,
Speaker 1: more talented, better pedigree player, all that stuff. But he loafs,
Speaker 1: he takes plays off. He but in Montes Sweat, whatever
Speaker 1: he's got, he's given it to you. And so I
Speaker 1: think he that is a direct because it's the exact
Speaker 1: same trade. It's a second round pick for an established
Speaker 1: player that you're hoping to pay. They paid Montes sweat.
Speaker 1: They obviously didn't pay Claypool. So I think also with
Speaker 1: anything learning, proving that you learn from your mistakes and
Speaker 1: that you don't double down, that's a sign of intelligence
Speaker 1: to me. So to me like it's like, yeah, did
Speaker 1: it start a little choppy, no question. But he also
Speaker 1: inherited one of the oldest teams in the league with
Speaker 1: a ton of bad contracts, a quarterback that someone else drafted,
Speaker 1: no first round pick in his first year, So his
Speaker 1: first draft picks are second round picks, both of them,
Speaker 1: by the way, pretty good. Kyler Gordon and Jawan Brisker,
Speaker 1: two guys who are starters in one of the best
Speaker 1: young secondaries in football. Then when he gets a first
Speaker 1: round pick, a lot of us are saying, Jalen Carter,
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter, Jalen Carter, you need a three technique for
Speaker 1: this defense. He moves down from nine to ten, picks
Speaker 1: up an extra fourth round pick, drafts Darnell right right
Speaker 1: tackle to support the quarterback. He makes all rookie team
Speaker 1: looks like he's going to be a starter at right
Speaker 1: tackle for ten years, and then the biggest thing by far,
Speaker 1: and the Sweat one was big, and the Keenan Allen
Speaker 1: was big. Is He trades the number one overall pick
Speaker 1: and picks the right team to trade to gets d
Speaker 1: J Moore gets the second round pick, that is Tyreek Stevenson,
Speaker 1: another starter cornerback who was really damn good last year,
Speaker 1: gets the first round pick this year, which is going
Speaker 1: to be you know, Caleb Williams, a once in a
Speaker 1: generation quarterback prospect. He has their second round pick next
Speaker 1: year from Carolina and oh yeah, by the way, DJ Moore.
Speaker 1: So it's one of the great I mean, people will
Speaker 1: reference the Herschel Walker trade. It is truly one of
Speaker 1: the great trades in my ODDNFL history. If Caleb Williams
Speaker 1: is everything that you and I in the vast majority
Speaker 1: of people think that he will be, They've got a
Speaker 1: very good cap situation. They've got very good players in
Speaker 1: their athletic prime Jalen Johnson, Tremaine Edmunds, Montes, Sweat Cole Comet,
Speaker 1: DJ Moore. These guys are all twenty five, twenty six,
Speaker 1: twenty seven years old, under contract, good players on rookie deals. Brisker, Gordon,
Speaker 1: Tyreek Stevenson, Darnell Wright, Tevin Jenkins, who I hadn't mentioned,
Speaker 1: And now you're going to inject the ninth overall pick,
Speaker 1: whoever he ends up taking. And there's a ton of
Speaker 1: great options. And Caleb willia was and a good quarterback
Speaker 1: on a rookie deal. The Bears should be set up
Speaker 1: under Ryan Poles for a really long runway of success.
Speaker 2: Here you kind of moved into a space, as far
Speaker 2: as I can tell, you were not really a Justin's
Speaker 2: Fields guy. And the city was you know, of course
Speaker 2: they're clinging to it working. How the Bears were clinging
Speaker 2: to it They wanted to say, we'll get nine picks
Speaker 2: for Caleb Williams. Everybody wanted it to work. So what
Speaker 2: is it like now, probably for the first time in
Speaker 2: your career as being a villain for a few months.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is fascinating. I'm gonna take off my
Speaker 1: headset for just one second because this will this will
Speaker 1: make sense. So because this is there's an exact moment
Speaker 1: when my likability plummeted, and wow, I just have to
Speaker 1: pull out a prop real quick. I didn't know we
Speaker 1: were gonna talk about this hold on, so I I
Speaker 1: commissioned a Caleb Williams thirteen Bears jersey the day they
Speaker 1: got the number one pick. So with a week left
Speaker 1: in the season, and so Justin Fields is still on
Speaker 1: the Bears.
Speaker 3: It's been.
Speaker 1: He's likable, he's fun, he's exciting. He was voted the
Speaker 1: eighty sixth best player in the NFL coming off of
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two season when they had the most
Speaker 1: dead cap space and no one else get on the team.
Speaker 1: People love Justin Fields, and the Bears did not treat
Speaker 1: him well and it was not fair and they did
Speaker 1: not build around him. In the situation that Caleb is
Speaker 1: walking into is a thousand times, but life isn't fair.
Speaker 1: And I was like, listen, here's the thing. I like hangarsteak,
Speaker 1: but I've got a chance for eight five WAGU and
Speaker 1: it's cheaper for some reason, for some reason, the Wago
Speaker 1: is cheaper than the hangers bake. Like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: go for it every time. And so when I people
Speaker 1: are like I because now everyone's pumped for Caleb. But
Speaker 1: I was just like, this is how it's going to end.
Speaker 1: And I told him how it was going to end
Speaker 1: before they were ready to hear how it was going
Speaker 1: to end, and if I would have just had the take,
Speaker 1: people would have really disagreed. But for for some reason,
Speaker 1: the fact that I spent one hundred and forty dollars
Speaker 1: on a jersey and like became a prop comic for
Speaker 1: a minute and like showed, like I showed you how
Speaker 1: positive I was that this was how it was gonna end. Buddy,
Speaker 1: were people mean to me on the internet? Like, man,
Speaker 1: But it's so weird about the whole thing is that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be right. Like I bet mischter Bisky at
Speaker 1: two hunderd to one to an MVP blew up in
Speaker 1: my face. I said there was a zero percent chance
Speaker 1: the White Sox we're gonna hire Tony LaRussa blew up
Speaker 1: in my face. Like I've been wrong plenty of times.
Speaker 1: We did give twenty hours a week of opinions. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be wrong all the time. But man, did people
Speaker 1: hate this jersey. But now it's gonna be the number
Speaker 1: one selling jersey in the NFL for the next like
Speaker 1: five years. So I'm a I don't know if you
Speaker 1: knew this. I'm a fashion icon, I'm a trendsetter. I'm
Speaker 1: ahead of the curve. People are dressing like me now,
Speaker 1: and I frankly love it. But yeah, did I have
Speaker 1: it on my on my board that the thing that
Speaker 1: would make me most hated is the thing that I
Speaker 1: have been the most right about. No, I didn't. I
Speaker 1: did not expect that to be how my how my.
Speaker 2: Career is gone.
Speaker 1: But now people are being pretty nice because they're pretty
Speaker 1: excited about kayb Boyance the volume.
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