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Speaker 2: All right Io on ninety four LSU eighty seven in

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Speaker 2: a rematch, I thought it was incredibly fast paced and fun.

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Speaker 2: The game wasn't really it didn't feel that close. Iowa

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Speaker 2: got more good looks, a lot of at Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 2: forty one points nine for twenty on threes, twelve assists,

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Speaker 2: think there's two reasons of why you're getting this explosion.

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Speaker 2: Number one is the quality of play is better. You

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Speaker 2: can go back and watch the nineteen seventies NBA, and

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Speaker 2: men's college basketball. I'd argue it was better you had guys, like,

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Speaker 2: for a third or a fourth year. Women's college basketball

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Speaker 2: and the seventies and eighties did not look like this

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Speaker 2: the players now, the distribution, the scoring, the finishing, the passing,

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Speaker 2: the size, the speed of athletes, it's different. I YouTube

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Speaker 2: tonight for fun. I YouTube nineteen eighty women's college basketball.

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Speaker 2: It's just not the same sport. The passing, the ball movement,

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Speaker 2: the cutting. It's clever and it's Tonight's game wasn't shippy

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Speaker 2: at all, but there's, you know, some chippiness, some physicality,

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Speaker 2: and it's enjoy to watch. I mean, folks, ninety four

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Speaker 2: Virginia men's basketball. How many games in this tournament have

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Speaker 2: you watched on the men's side and thought, can we

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Speaker 2: Duke was painful to watch. But the quality of looks,

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Speaker 2: we have multiple generations now of women being encouraged to

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Speaker 2: That's the first part. And the second thing women's college

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Speaker 2: not continuity. It's not a carousel great players and great

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Speaker 2: rivalries year after year after year. People are creatures. I havebit,

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Speaker 2: like continuity, we like some predictability. And women's college basketball

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Speaker 2: we get a rematch, We get Caitlin Clark for a

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Speaker 2: Caitlin was the difference tonight in this game, and that's

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Speaker 2: I mean, now, Angel Reese is great too, but Caitlin

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Speaker 2: and with relative ease. So the star power matters. You

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Speaker 2: Star power matters, and Caitlin Clark has it. I was

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Speaker 2: I was kind of googling and thinking about the biggest

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Speaker 2: Listen, college coaches have a lot of power on a campus.

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Speaker 4: of Fame, if he tells you jump, you say how high?

424
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Speaker 4: So it's like, I don't believe it's his own choice.

425
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's not agreeing to it, but what's

426
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Speaker 4: he supposed to do? Tell his dad? He doesn't know

427
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Speaker 4: what he's talking about. But that that neighbors Connie ran

428
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Speaker 4: a four. He's a fantastic tape I mean, dominating the

429
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Speaker 4: SEC ran a four to three five and jump forty

430
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Speaker 4: two inches. I mean pretty rare athlete. So you know,

431
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Speaker 4: it's hard. I don't know what to gauge on Harbaugh.

432
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Speaker 4: I think I said you and I talked about this

433
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Speaker 4: last week about the wide receivers, and someone hit me up,

434
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Speaker 4: like the Ravens have taken wide receivers over the years. Yeah,

435
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Speaker 4: in the twenties when they're good, when they've drafted high.

436
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 4: Told Nada it's Ronnie Stanley now that I don't know

437
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Speaker 4: if that guy's really here, right. There's not a great

438
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Speaker 4: pass rusher in this the Bama guy, I don't think

439
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Speaker 4: he's viewed as a top ten player. Like we talked about,

440
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Speaker 4: they don't need a left eckle. You could, I guess,

441
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Speaker 4: take the Oregon State guy. There probably be a little

442
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Speaker 4: rich but I don't know. You know, if Harbaugh didn't

443
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Speaker 4: take Marvin Harrison. He's seen him back to back years,

444
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Speaker 4: right and see him on crossfilm for three years at Michigan,

445
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Speaker 4: that'd be a little interesting, neighbors is from what you know.

446
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Speaker 4: He's had some incidents over the years, but his talent.

447
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Speaker 4: I think they feel he's pretty buttoned up right now.

448
00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 4: Rome honestly feels kind of like a Harbaugh guy. But

449
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I think the Chargers are fascinating, But yeah,

450
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Speaker 4: I would go Brock Bowers. I don't see how he's

451
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Speaker 4: not if you got if you gave him a if

452
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Speaker 4: you just put him on the Chargers, which I don't think,

453
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Speaker 4: you know that he would immediately make like nine ten

454
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Speaker 4: you know, ish million dollars in a tight end. The

455
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Speaker 4: franchise tags twelve, So ideally taking a tight end that high,

456
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Speaker 4: you're already paying him premium money. But I think he'd

457
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Speaker 4: be a premium player immediately. I think he would dominate.

458
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Speaker 4: If you told me Brock Bowers on the Chargers next year,

459
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Speaker 4: I'd be like, he catches eighty eight.

460
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Speaker 2: Balls when you nine touchdowns. I mean, here's the other thing.

461
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Speaker 2: Letting Gerald Everett go to the Bears. They don't have

462
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Speaker 2: I mean, they're they're they're well below average in the

463
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Speaker 2: NFL at tight end. And so and Herbert I mean,

464
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Speaker 2: can you imagine him having a six to six target,

465
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Speaker 2: you know, because he was so he's been so effective

466
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Speaker 2: with Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. I mean, so he's

467
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Speaker 2: one of those guys that will throw guys open. A

468
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Speaker 2: lot of young quarterbacks, don't hew he throws young guys open.

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Speaker 1: Well.

470
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Speaker 2: I first heard of Danny Parkins from Nick Wright, who

471
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Speaker 2: had said, Hey, I work with this guy. And then

472
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Speaker 2: I go to Chicago regularly and listened, and I thought, Wow,

473
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Speaker 2: this guy's about the best young guy I've heard in

474
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Speaker 2: the country. So I did sports radio for a while

475
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Speaker 2: and then I wanted to create mostly out of survival.

476
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Speaker 2: When I was at ESPN, I said, guys, I've got

477
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Speaker 2: to create a simulcast. AM radio is not a dynamic

478
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Speaker 2: next ten year horizon. And so ESPN did not think

479
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Speaker 2: I was talented enough to be on ESPN two. Apparently,

480
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Speaker 2: so I said, all right, well, jettison this place. I

481
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Speaker 2: do appreciate it and things have gone well. But when

482
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Speaker 2: I went to television, I always did a show with

483
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Speaker 2: a lot of football. But I think I have moved

484
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Speaker 2: in the direction of more football. Part of that is

485
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Speaker 2: when you can see a TV number every day, you

486
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Speaker 2: see what's working and you see what's not, and football

487
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 2: almost always works. Secondarily, though big beat small scale beats

488
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Speaker 2: up boutique, the NFL makes everything now look small. I

489
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Speaker 2: think it's well run. I think sports gambling helps. I

490
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: think it's better on television. I think other leagues have

491
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Speaker 2: made mistakes. One and done. Is her college basketball mends anyway?

492
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Speaker 2: What percentage of your show? Mind about seventy percent NFL.

493
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Speaker 2: I don't want to be in the NFL network, I

494
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Speaker 2: pushed back. I've talked to a lot of college basketball

495
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Speaker 2: in the last two or three weeks. What percentage of

496
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Speaker 2: yours is NFL.

497
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Speaker 1: Obviously, it depends on the time, right, I mean, we're

498
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Speaker 1: Cubs Opening Day. We're doing a ton of Cubs. We're

499
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Speaker 1: the home of the Cubs. But even leading into that,

500
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Speaker 1: the Bears have been the dominant storyline with the last

501
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Speaker 1: two years having the number one overall pick. They're the

502
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Speaker 1: biggest story in the NFL for the offseason, so obviously

503
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Speaker 1: they're the biggest story here. So even with a two

504
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Speaker 1: team town, there's only three cities that have two baseball teams,

505
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Speaker 1: Baseball on the radio is still incredibly powerful. You know,

506
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Speaker 1: the Cubs are the biggest client to my radio station,

507
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Speaker 1: six seventy four by far. We're still and I wish

508
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Speaker 1: the number was higher. My co host is a bigger

509
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Speaker 1: baseball guy. It's over fifty percent for football, even in

510
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Speaker 1: opening day week with two teams in town, because it's

511
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Speaker 1: all about Caleb Williams and the ninth pick and are

512
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Speaker 1: the Bears on the com and all of that, and

513
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Speaker 1: the other thing, at least in this market that I

514
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Speaker 1: would say is football's the great unifier. When I was

515
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,479
Speaker 1: growing up kid in the nineties in Chicago, the Bulls

516
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Speaker 1: were king. The Blackhawks weren't even on TV, But there

517
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Speaker 1: were people that were Blackhawks fans and not Bulls fans,

518
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Speaker 1: even at that period of time, and certainly when they

519
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Speaker 1: had their dynastic run with three titles, the Hawks kind

520
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: of overtook the Bulls as being the toughest ticket in

521
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Speaker 1: town and that sort of thing. Cubs in white, Sox split,

522
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Speaker 1: Blackhawks and Bulls split. Everybody cares about the Bears. Everybody

523
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Speaker 1: has an opinion on the Bears. And for the national

524
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: side of it, yeah, sports, gambling, yeah, fantasy. But I

525
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Speaker 1: think like the simplest way to explain it is that

526
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Speaker 1: it's every game matter. It's one of seventeen and no

527
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Speaker 1: other league has that. If I miss Bulls Hawks and

528
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Speaker 1: I don't talk about it on the show the next day,

529
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Speaker 1: we don't get a single text call or tweet being like, hey,

530
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Speaker 1: you missed this really important thing. Because if a really

531
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Speaker 1: important thing happens, I see about it on social media,

532
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Speaker 1: it cuts through we talk about it.

533
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Speaker 2: But if you came on the Monday after.

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Speaker 1: A Bears Packers game, or a Bears Lions game, or

535
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Speaker 1: a Bears Jaguars game, or a Bears Bucks game, whomever,

536
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Speaker 1: even if they were five and ten, and you didn't

537
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Speaker 1: do four hours on the Bears game, the ramifications who

538
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: played well, who didn't, who's going to get fired, who's

539
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: going to get extended? All those things, people would think

540
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: you were insane. So it's the great unifier. And the

541
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Speaker 1: thing that it has is that every game matters, and

542
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Speaker 1: the rhythm of it, I think is great. You play

543
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: a game on Sunday, you react on Monday. The coach

544
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: and the quarterbacks speak on Monday, and quarterback speaks on Wednesday.

545
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Speaker 1: You start looking ahead to the next then there's a

546
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Speaker 1: Thursday night game. Teams in your division matter. It's just

547
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: a for local sports radio, national TV. There's just such

548
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: a great rhythm to football.

549
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Speaker 2: So I didn't like Ryan Poles initially, Velis Jones, I

550
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: watched them at USC could not track the ball. I

551
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: mean that, I literally text you GMS and I'm like,

552
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: he doesn't know what he's doing. That he can't play.

553
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 2: He's a point that he can't play. So I watched

554
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Speaker 2: USC maybe more than Ryan Poles. And then there was

555
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Speaker 2: the Chase Claypool, which I defended because of the body type,

556
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: but Chase ended up going sideways and not being very mature.

557
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 2: And so my takeaway is I don't trust, the ownership,

558
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: Ryan Poles, Matt Eberflus, and then probably knowing he butchered

559
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: VELAs Jones, and knowing that there are certain things about

560
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Speaker 2: offense like line play. I think he's drafted it pretty

561
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: well that he knows. He went and got DJ Moore,

562
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Speaker 2: he went and got Keenan Allen and moved Mooney and

563
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, and then he brings in Gerald Everett

564
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Speaker 2: and he's swift, who's a good he can catch the

565
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Speaker 2: ball to the backfield, and I'm like, oh, no new information.

566
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Speaker 2: I think Ryan Poles knows what he's doing. I think

567
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: his last six move, I love the Monte Sweat move.

568
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: It got heat. But I'm like, folks, there's nobody in

569
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Speaker 2: the second round as good as Montes.

570
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Speaker 1: Sweat, right, and no guarantee you to get him in

571
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Speaker 1: free agency. That's right, But what is the takeaway? Because

572
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: the Bears Eberflus has been criticized, the ownership has where

573
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Speaker 1: is everybody sitting on your GM, which in football is

574
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Speaker 1: such a substantial position because the rosters are so big

575
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Speaker 1: and there's so many moves to make. I don't know

576
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Speaker 1: how you could have any grade on him other than

577
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Speaker 1: an A. It doesn't mean that he's perfect, and you've

578
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Speaker 1: listed a few of the big misses, like Dayles Jones

579
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Speaker 1: is the first offensive player that he ever selected, But

580
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Speaker 1: it was in the third round. Teams miss on third

581
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: round picks all the time. Chase Claypool, it was a

582
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: panic move. It was I'm trading away Rokwan Smith. I'm

583
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Speaker 1: trading away Robert Quinn. I'm carrying the most dead cap

584
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: space of any team in the league. But I am

585
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Speaker 1: trying to be fair to Justin Fields, who an eleven

586
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Speaker 1: out of ten as a person, and I'd like to

587
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Speaker 1: figure out if I have something here, I've got to

588
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: give him something. And he overtraded for the traits of

589
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Speaker 1: Chase Claypool, and I think he undervalued the personal stuff

590
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: because then when he learned the mistake from that and

591
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: he trades for Montes Sweat, there were a lot of

592
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Speaker 1: people saying, trade for Chase Young off that defense line,

593
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: more talented, better pedigree player, all that stuff. But he loafs,

594
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Speaker 1: he takes plays off. He but in Montes Sweat, whatever

595
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: he's got, he's given it to you. And so I

596
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Speaker 1: think he that is a direct because it's the exact

597
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: same trade. It's a second round pick for an established

598
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Speaker 1: player that you're hoping to pay. They paid Montes sweat.

599
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: They obviously didn't pay Claypool. So I think also with

600
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Speaker 1: anything learning, proving that you learn from your mistakes and

601
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Speaker 1: that you don't double down, that's a sign of intelligence

602
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: to me. So to me like it's like, yeah, did

603
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: it start a little choppy, no question. But he also

604
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: inherited one of the oldest teams in the league with

605
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: a ton of bad contracts, a quarterback that someone else drafted,

606
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Speaker 1: no first round pick in his first year, So his

607
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: first draft picks are second round picks, both of them,

608
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: by the way, pretty good. Kyler Gordon and Jawan Brisker,

609
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: two guys who are starters in one of the best

610
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Speaker 1: young secondaries in football. Then when he gets a first

611
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: round pick, a lot of us are saying, Jalen Carter,

612
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter, Jalen Carter, you need a three technique for

613
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: this defense. He moves down from nine to ten, picks

614
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: up an extra fourth round pick, drafts Darnell right right

615
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: tackle to support the quarterback. He makes all rookie team

616
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: looks like he's going to be a starter at right

617
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Speaker 1: tackle for ten years, and then the biggest thing by far,

618
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Speaker 1: and the Sweat one was big, and the Keenan Allen

619
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Speaker 1: was big. Is He trades the number one overall pick

620
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Speaker 1: and picks the right team to trade to gets d

621
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Speaker 1: J Moore gets the second round pick, that is Tyreek Stevenson,

622
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: another starter cornerback who was really damn good last year,

623
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Speaker 1: gets the first round pick this year, which is going

624
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Speaker 1: to be you know, Caleb Williams, a once in a

625
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: generation quarterback prospect. He has their second round pick next

626
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: year from Carolina and oh yeah, by the way, DJ Moore.

627
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: So it's one of the great I mean, people will

628
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: reference the Herschel Walker trade. It is truly one of

629
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Speaker 1: the great trades in my ODDNFL history. If Caleb Williams

630
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Speaker 1: is everything that you and I in the vast majority

631
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Speaker 1: of people think that he will be, They've got a

632
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Speaker 1: very good cap situation. They've got very good players in

633
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Speaker 1: their athletic prime Jalen Johnson, Tremaine Edmunds, Montes, Sweat Cole Comet,

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Speaker 1: DJ Moore. These guys are all twenty five, twenty six,

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Speaker 1: twenty seven years old, under contract, good players on rookie deals. Brisker, Gordon,

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Stevenson, Darnell Wright, Tevin Jenkins, who I hadn't mentioned,

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Speaker 1: And now you're going to inject the ninth overall pick,

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Speaker 1: whoever he ends up taking. And there's a ton of

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Speaker 1: great options. And Caleb willia was and a good quarterback

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Speaker 1: on a rookie deal. The Bears should be set up

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Speaker 1: under Ryan Poles for a really long runway of success.

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Speaker 2: Here you kind of moved into a space, as far

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Speaker 2: as I can tell, you were not really a Justin's

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Speaker 2: Fields guy. And the city was you know, of course

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Speaker 2: they're clinging to it working. How the Bears were clinging

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Speaker 2: to it They wanted to say, we'll get nine picks

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Speaker 2: for Caleb Williams. Everybody wanted it to work. So what

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Speaker 2: is it like now, probably for the first time in

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Speaker 2: your career as being a villain for a few months.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this is fascinating. I'm gonna take off my

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Speaker 1: headset for just one second because this will this will

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Speaker 1: make sense. So because this is there's an exact moment

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Speaker 1: when my likability plummeted, and wow, I just have to

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Speaker 1: pull out a prop real quick. I didn't know we

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Speaker 1: were gonna talk about this hold on, so I I

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Speaker 1: commissioned a Caleb Williams thirteen Bears jersey the day they

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Speaker 1: got the number one pick. So with a week left

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Speaker 1: in the season, and so Justin Fields is still on

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Speaker 1: the Bears.

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Speaker 3: It's been.

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Speaker 1: He's likable, he's fun, he's exciting. He was voted the

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Speaker 1: eighty sixth best player in the NFL coming off of

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two season when they had the most

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Speaker 1: dead cap space and no one else get on the team.

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Speaker 1: People love Justin Fields, and the Bears did not treat

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Speaker 1: him well and it was not fair and they did

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Speaker 1: not build around him. In the situation that Caleb is

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Speaker 1: walking into is a thousand times, but life isn't fair.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, listen, here's the thing. I like hangarsteak,

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Speaker 1: but I've got a chance for eight five WAGU and

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Speaker 1: it's cheaper for some reason, for some reason, the Wago

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Speaker 1: is cheaper than the hangers bake. Like, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: go for it every time. And so when I people

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Speaker 1: are like I because now everyone's pumped for Caleb. But

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Speaker 1: I was just like, this is how it's going to end.

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Speaker 1: And I told him how it was going to end

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Speaker 1: before they were ready to hear how it was going

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Speaker 1: to end, and if I would have just had the take,

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Speaker 1: people would have really disagreed. But for for some reason,

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Speaker 1: the fact that I spent one hundred and forty dollars

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Speaker 1: on a jersey and like became a prop comic for

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Speaker 1: a minute and like showed, like I showed you how

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Speaker 1: positive I was that this was how it was gonna end. Buddy,

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Speaker 1: were people mean to me on the internet? Like, man,

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Speaker 1: But it's so weird about the whole thing is that

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be right. Like I bet mischter Bisky at

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Speaker 1: two hunderd to one to an MVP blew up in

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Speaker 1: my face. I said there was a zero percent chance

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Speaker 1: the White Sox we're gonna hire Tony LaRussa blew up

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Speaker 1: in my face. Like I've been wrong plenty of times.

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Speaker 1: We did give twenty hours a week of opinions. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna be wrong all the time. But man, did people

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Speaker 1: hate this jersey. But now it's gonna be the number

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Speaker 1: one selling jersey in the NFL for the next like

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Speaker 1: five years. So I'm a I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: knew this. I'm a fashion icon, I'm a trendsetter. I'm

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Speaker 1: ahead of the curve. People are dressing like me now,

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Speaker 1: and I frankly love it. But yeah, did I have

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Speaker 1: it on my on my board that the thing that

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Speaker 1: would make me most hated is the thing that I

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Speaker 1: have been the most right about. No, I didn't. I

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Speaker 1: did not expect that to be how my how my.

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Speaker 2: Career is gone.

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Speaker 1: But now people are being pretty nice because they're pretty

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Speaker 1: excited about kayb Boyance the volume.

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