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Speaker 1: than what an operation we have. It's so smooth. It

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Speaker 1: is a conspiracy, all right. So of course what are

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Speaker 1: the big stories? Continues to be what the hell are

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Speaker 1: we shooting down in the sky. Another update today is

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Speaker 1: that China is accusing us of flying spy booms over

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Speaker 1: their country more than ten times. Whether or not that's true,

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Speaker 1: who cares because it's coming from the Chinese government. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: they did over the weekend each Saturday and Sunday shoot down.

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Speaker 1: More objects have been at least four shot down in

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Speaker 1: the last week. We're going to get an update on

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Speaker 1: this wild story from ABC News for KFI and correspondent

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Speaker 1: Luis Martinez. Luis, welcome and thanks sharing me on the show.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? A lot is going on here at

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Speaker 1: the Ventagon, guys A lot? Yeah, what are they telling

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Speaker 1: us about what these objects are? Well, they're still trying

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Speaker 1: to figure it out. They're being very coy and calling

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Speaker 1: these objects right, they're not calling them balloons because they

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Speaker 1: don't want to get boxed in essentially, But the thinking

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Speaker 1: to civilian aircraft between twenty thousand and forty thousand feet

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Speaker 1: in altitude, that they weren't powered by anything, and so

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Speaker 1: since they're at the mercy of the wind, essentially, they

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Speaker 1: decided that it was it was optimal to shoot it down,

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Speaker 1: and that's what the recommendation was made to President Biden,

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Speaker 1: who accept and that's why we have these shootdowns. But

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Speaker 1: what we're hearing here is that they're not going to

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Speaker 1: until they actually get some of the debrief from these

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Speaker 1: three locations from the shootdowns over the weekend. But what

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Speaker 1: we're hearing is that there are challenging conditions that each

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Speaker 1: three of those locations. So it's really unclear what they're

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Speaker 1: going to find. Aren't there always objects like these up there? Though?

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Speaker 1: Why suddenly be shooting them down? Well, I think the

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Speaker 1: assumption has always been that, yeah, there are probably leather

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Speaker 1: know about, but the ignor at what they were focused on, remember,

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Speaker 1: was a threat, a military inbound threat during the Cold

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Speaker 1: War from the Soviet Union and then elsewhere, and so

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Speaker 1: they were locked in at a certain locations whatever, and

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Speaker 1: remember they after nine to eleven, then they turned into

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Speaker 1: a different kind of mission. They turned into this mission

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Speaker 1: of reacting over the homeland to potential threats inside the US,

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Speaker 1: not outside. They are coming from the border. So what

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Speaker 1: we've been told from officials at the White House and

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Speaker 1: from Norad itself is that they've tweaked the filters. In

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Speaker 1: other words, we now know that China had this bibloon.

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Speaker 1: We now know they were flying above sort of commercial

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Speaker 1: aviation at sixty thousand feet. We know they were moving slowly,

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Speaker 1: call them. Essentially, now they're picking up this stuff because

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Speaker 1: now they're looking for things at higher altitudes, they're looking

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Speaker 1: And these are the three objects that just happened to

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Speaker 1: coming weeks. That is the question of the day, the weekend,

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Speaker 1: are not really saying. They're saying that our main issue

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Speaker 1: it's the it's the altitude argument essentially. You know the

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Speaker 1: think then they would have made the calculus, all right,

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Speaker 1: But if it had dipped down into those civilian air

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Speaker 1: But that's the argument that they're making here. How do

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Speaker 1: they know if this balloon were sixty thousand feet high

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Speaker 1: did they know there wasn't a weapon in that payload

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Speaker 1: that could have been used to attack us in some way. Now,

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Speaker 1: and the Chinese knew that they were being tracked, why

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Speaker 1: reporting at ABC News that ultimately per as senior US official,

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Speaker 1: What was it like talking to this accused killer who

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Speaker 1: into his RV. I guess they had a group of

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Speaker 1: RVs set up as part of their nonprofit. Yeah. This,

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Speaker 1: by the way, you didn't even mention this. This outfit

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Speaker 1: contracts with the city of San Francisco to provide meals

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Speaker 1: and services to unhoused residents and run a safe sleep

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Speaker 1: site in an RV shelter park at Pure ninety four

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco. That's what they do. So that homeless

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Speaker 1: department contracts with this company nearly twenty eight million dollars

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Speaker 1: worth of housing and support services to clients. So they've

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Speaker 1: been given a substantial amount of money. And she seems

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Speaker 1: to be spending millions of dollars in her private life. Yes, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, she found a pipeline. Yeah, but but the

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Speaker 1: government is not bringing this case. It's not a criminal case.

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Speaker 1: It's this civil case by a fellow employee who got

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Speaker 1: fired because he was exposing what she was doing and challenge.

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Speaker 1: They're just going to call him discruntled or something like that,

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Speaker 1: making stuff up, but discounted former employee. Um yowh. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is what these organizations are about. You

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Speaker 1: have these these criminals who float around government. Sometimes they

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Speaker 1: get caught, sometimes they don't. But they're there to access

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Speaker 1: tax money. They're there to perpetuate some kind of rackets,

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Speaker 1: some kind of scam that none of these people, Gwenlyn

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Speaker 1: Westbrook and most of the other people there have no

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Speaker 1: interest in helping the homeless. This is a myth, but

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Speaker 1: it's one of those bulletproof myths. You're not allowed to

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Speaker 1: criticize people who are involved in homeless advocates. No, you're

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Speaker 1: not supposed to question their their nonprofit. Boy, this is

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Speaker 1: a nonprofit. It's more of a noble it's more righteous

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Speaker 1: and spiritual, all right. When we return, believe it or not,

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Speaker 1: it looks like we have the third angry older Asian

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Speaker 1: male in just the last three weeks going on a

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Speaker 1: violent rampage. John and Ken Cafiam six forty live everywhere

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Speaker 1: in the iHeartRadio app. Yeah, well I see here in

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Speaker 1: the news. There was a big rig that overturned this

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Speaker 1: morning carrying a huge load of dog food. So you

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Speaker 1: just get your dog there as quick as possible and

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Speaker 1: feed seventy five thousand pounds freeway in Sillmark near the five,

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Speaker 1: fourteen and two ten freeways this morning. It resulted in

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Speaker 1: a big traffic alert. Dog food everywhere. There were bags

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Speaker 1: that had to be removed. It took a while to

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Speaker 1: fix it. Coming up after the news at three o'clock,

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Speaker 1: our guests will be a reporter with Southern California News Group.

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Speaker 1: Scott Schwebki will be coming on the show to talk

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Speaker 1: about his interview with the Long beach Man who's accused

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Speaker 1: of running over and stabbing to death the doctor and

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Speaker 1: Dana point that was a terrible story from a short

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Speaker 1: time back, just a couple of weeks ago. And I

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Speaker 1: mean he runs them down, he's the doctor's on his bicycle.

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Speaker 1: He runs them down. That he gets out of the

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Speaker 1: car and runs up and begins stabbing him with what

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Speaker 1: people described as like a machete type a really big knife,

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Speaker 1: which we understand the killer had just purchased I think

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Speaker 1: that day, and you're going to find out. We went

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Speaker 1: through this story on Friday when it was first released

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Speaker 1: that this man is him as Van Roy Evans Smith

484
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Speaker 1: said that he was pretty much out to kill somebody

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Speaker 1: that day because he is the Messiah, he is the

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Speaker 1: king of kings and basically can do what he wants.

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Speaker 1: So we'll find out what it was like to talk

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Speaker 1: to him as demeanor and basically a jailhouse confession. Oh,

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Speaker 1: that'll be our guests coming up after the news at

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Speaker 1: three o'clock. Speaking of wacky people, we have for the

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Speaker 1: third time and just a matter of weeks a month,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. The timeline is exactly an older Asian

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Speaker 1: man who went on a violent rant, or not a rant,

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Speaker 1: but a violent episode. This one is in New York City.

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Speaker 1: We don't really at least I don't see stories of

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Speaker 1: police chases that often in New York City. Is it

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Speaker 1: because the too much there's too much traffic for for

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Speaker 1: you to actually avoid the cops, even on a regular

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Speaker 1: side street's not just the highways. But this is a

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Speaker 1: sixty two year old man by the name of Wing soar,

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Speaker 1: and he took a U haul truck and started driving

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Speaker 1: through the streets of a neighborhood in Brooklyn. He plowed

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Speaker 1: into at least eight people, including a cop, and two

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Speaker 1: people are still in critical condition, and he shouted at

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Speaker 1: the cops trying to pull him over, shoot me, I'm

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Speaker 1: not stopping. There's some video online of him right up

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Speaker 1: to the moment he was about to hit a bicyclist.

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Speaker 1: I saw that, and I suppose that that bicyclist got creamed.

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Speaker 1: He must be in one of the people in critical

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Speaker 1: it got to be. And then him him dropping his

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Speaker 1: U haul up on the sidewalk, Yeah, I think, um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well he says here he hit somebody on a moped,

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Speaker 1: so maybe it's a moped or a bicycle. But I

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Speaker 1: saw that video that looked really scary. This is in

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Speaker 1: Bay Ridge neighborhood where I lived for a short time,

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Speaker 1: by the way, a short time, a few months. But

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Speaker 1: then he rammed it to seven other people, most of

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Speaker 1: those suffering minor injuries, until they were finally able to

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Speaker 1: stop him. And if you're waiting for it, well here

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Speaker 1: it comes. They believe he was a homeless man living

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Speaker 1: out of the U haul. There you go with apparently

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Speaker 1: no criminal record, but apparently a record of mental illness.

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Speaker 1: Van was rented. The van was rented out of Florida.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, so he came to it was rented because

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Speaker 1: sometimes the plates might say Florida, but you could have

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Speaker 1: rented the phrase they use because the vehicles move around.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah. He spun the moped around. The driver went

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Speaker 1: to the ground, He jumped the curb, plowed through bikes

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Speaker 1: left on a street corner. He then sped off, rammed

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Speaker 1: into another pedestrian. Two more Two other moped drivers were

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Speaker 1: hit during the chase. He then jumped onto an expressway

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Speaker 1: shortly The cops finally caught up with him about thirty

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Speaker 1: Incas whole thing took about an hour and a half

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Speaker 1: before they were able to wrangle him. Um, I like this.

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Speaker 1: Cops gave him two tickets for traffic in fractions on

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Speaker 1: the Belt Parkway. Oh he got those tickets just this month.

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Speaker 1: He got two tickets on the Belt Expressway. Oh, I see.

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Speaker 1: But he had one other prior running with cops form

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Speaker 1: a mental health call. In twenty nineteen, he was yelling

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Speaker 1: and jumping into moving traffic on a street in Queens

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Speaker 1: took him for a psych evaluation. Yeah, psych evaluations. They're worthless,

542
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Speaker 1: absolutely worthless. If you if you let the guy out,

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Speaker 1: what's the point, why did you bother? Because they don't

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Speaker 1: think he'd killed people, but they do. Then they don't

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Speaker 1: know that what they think. Might as well ask my

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Speaker 1: dog what he thinks. Well, I don't want to hear

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Speaker 1: what these idiots nor your responses. Just hold on to

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Speaker 1: everybody forever because we can't take any chances. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm just asking. Well, maybe you have to force feed

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have a lot of holding cells, because yes,

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Speaker 1: we will. So you have to pay for them. You

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Speaker 1: have to pay for everything, right, Yeah that when actually

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Speaker 1: we if we just put the mental patients away, we

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Speaker 1: could probably cut the police in half. It's probably true. No,

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Speaker 1: you have to force feed them drugs. They have to

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Speaker 1: be you know what happens over time because it's kind

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Speaker 1: of the history of this people like, you know, let's

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Speaker 1: just cut corner as well, pay a lot less for

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Speaker 1: their care, and then they end up being these horrific

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Speaker 1: site Wards goes back to what I said about Turkish officials.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna make intelligent decisions, you'll have a successful society.

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Speaker 1: You make stupid decisions, then you're gonna have crazy people

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Speaker 1: driving you hauls and crashing into people on bikes and

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Speaker 1: crashing onto sidewalks. So you got to decide what kind

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00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: of place you want to live in. These are This

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Speaker 1: is not Satan working his magic here. These aren't asteroids

567
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Speaker 1: hitting the planet. These amount of things beyond our control.

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Speaker 1: Almost all this crime is under our control. We have

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Speaker 1: to have the guts to take these people and lock

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Speaker 1: them up. And the more we lock them up, the

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Speaker 1: fewer incidents you'll have. It's not complicated. There's nothing else

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Speaker 1: to say about this, all right, When to return our

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Speaker 1: guests will be a reporter for the Southern California News Group.

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Speaker 1: This story first appeared in the Orange County Registered. We

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Speaker 1: talked about it on Friday, because that's the day he

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Speaker 1: got the jailhouse interview with the long beach man Van

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Speaker 1: Roy Evans Smith, who is accused and apparently now has

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Speaker 1: confessed to running over a bicyclist in Dana Point and

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Speaker 1: then jumping out of the car and stabbing him. The bicyclist,

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Speaker 1: a beloved physician in Dana Point, died. Johnny ken Cafe

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Speaker 1: I am six forty live everywhere, the iHeartRadio app, and

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