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Speaker 1: Who's flirting in this? DeRozan was flirting a little with

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Speaker 1: the Toronto crowd. I think he said this is going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's insane.

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Speaker 1: He's rights people outside in Jurassic Park going crazy.

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Speaker 3: You knows, Toronto. It is flirting for the game.

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Speaker 2: You know, we found out that the Raptors organization themselves,

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Speaker 2: have the rights whole movie, So it's all Raptors tailgate

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Speaker 2: or Leaf's tailgate, stuff like that. How do you feel

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Speaker 2: about that?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: It's like an angry dinosaur spitting in your face, which

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Speaker 1: happened in Jurassic Park. Who do you put that on Spielberger?

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Speaker 1: Or that's a criton well, then it's definitely his estate.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, fun show here today. We got two playing games tonight.

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Speaker 2: We'll look at them. Get you all set for Hawk's

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Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert news. Of course hit that second game. We'll

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Speaker 2: get into it later because today we're gonna start with

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Speaker 2: some Western Conference playoff previews and let's just jump right

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Speaker 2: into it. The number six seeded Warriors, the defending champs,

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three NBA Playoffs first round starting on

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Speaker 2: Saturday night, ABC game. Not only will it be the

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Speaker 2: since the Kings moved from Kansas City in nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 2: I love that stat so much. So, not only are

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Speaker 2: questions as we break this down, we'll get to our predictions,

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Speaker 2: but task big picture thing here, you know King's Warriors.

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Speaker 2: What is one thing that you're gonna be watching in

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Speaker 3: Well, both teams are gonna score a lot, and when

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Speaker 3: it comes down to the fourth quarter, who's gonna execute better.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be fresh, and they're just gonna put him

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Speaker 3: The Kings ain't blown the Warriors out, and the Warriors

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Speaker 3: I think on the Warriors, even though their defense has

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Speaker 2: What do you got?

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Speaker 1: I think it's the other point guard matchup. That's a

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Speaker 1: Their best chance the Kings defensively is probably like Davion Mitchell,

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Speaker 1: it's better than Steph Curry, who should be the best

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Speaker 1: And it's almost a matter of how can the Kings

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to talk about the big guys a

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Speaker 2: And what I like about it is, you know Looney

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Speaker 2: But Sibonis, when you think about it, he operates a

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Speaker 2: just wonder too, like foul trouble come in into play,

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Speaker 2: then that'll open things up for Seconment. I'm just pumped

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Speaker 2: for that. Yeah, sort of one on one battle again.

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Speaker 2: Luoniy will be on him, don't get me wrong, but

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting how deep the Warriors are gonna be

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Speaker 3: able to stay on the floor. But will you be

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Speaker 3: there and be half Andrew Wiggins? And the good thing

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Speaker 3: think if he can play just both ends, because they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go back to your Gary Pate in the second

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Speaker 2: They are like of all the teams in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: they have the worst defensive rating but the best offensive rating,

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Speaker 2: Warriors aren't great defensively either, like they're middle of the

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Speaker 2: I assume they will. But also since Gary Paton the

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Speaker 2: think they had the best defense in the league. Then

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Speaker 2: you're adding Andrew Wiggins. We don't know what, you know,

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Speaker 2: take for him to get into that sort of game shape.

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Speaker 2: You think it would come quicker maybe on the defensive

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Speaker 2: end finding a shot. But like that's scary for the Kings.

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Speaker 2: I guess what I'm getting at here is if like

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Speaker 2: there was no Gary pay in the second, if there

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Speaker 2: was no Wiggins, ah, maybe it's like a lot tighter.

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Speaker 2: But man, those guys like just help make the Warriors

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Speaker 2: middle of the pack defense back into sort of like

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Speaker 2: an elite defense, And that's that's a scary part I

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Warriors have a middle of the

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Speaker 3: And yeah this this the whole road record of eleven

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Speaker 2: Twenty of the better road teams the Sacramento Kings have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, during the season, totally one of the X factors.

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Speaker 3: Are you looking ahead?

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Speaker 2: So I just think, like, I'm not sure he's an

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think Monk versus Pool is kind

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Speaker 3: I'm definitely going with the Golden State Warriors. I've been

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Speaker 2: Okay Warriors and seven says tasks, what about you, Trey?

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Speaker 1: I got the Warriors in six. I think they win

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Speaker 1: The Warriors will end up celebrating after a one to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so Warriors and seven, Warriors and six. I

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Speaker 2: that's what the Warriors do. Despite this shitty regular season

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Speaker 2: those teams. They were the number three seed in their conference.

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Speaker 2: And who did the Raptors get. I got the Brooklyn

432
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,359
Speaker 2: Nets in the three to six matchup. Now that was

433
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,200
Speaker 2: the Nets where it was all the old guys. It

434
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 2: was your Paul Pierce, was your Joe Johnson, You're Darren Williams,

435
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,159
Speaker 2: You're Kevin Garnett. The guys that have been through the

436
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,200
Speaker 2: ring are maybe not with the Brooklyn Nets in that case,

437
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 2: but had won some championships, had some playoff success, just

438
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,440
Speaker 2: been there, done that, And I feel like that's what's

439
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 2: maybe going on here. But I know I took the

440
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 2: Raptors in that series to beat the Nets. I'm doing

441
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 2: the exact same thing here because I'm an idiot. Kings

442
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,639
Speaker 2: in seven, just because I want to believe it. My

443
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 2: head says Warriors and six, but my heart says Kings

444
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 2: and seven.

445
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 1: So I'll play both sides.

446
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:28,639
Speaker 3: I like that.

447
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 2: No Kings and seven, Kings and seven, I'll remember that.

448
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 2: I remember that.

449
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:33,439
Speaker 3: Why not?

450
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:33,879
Speaker 1: Why not?

451
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,119
Speaker 2: They just got to outscore them, out gun the greatest

452
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,199
Speaker 2: three point shooting backcourt we've ever seen in history.

453
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, they gotta win. The Kings have to win on

454
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 3: the road because they can do that.

455
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 2: That's not one hundred percent believe they can match. I

456
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 2: think this will be a two two series after four

457
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 2: with both.

458
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 3: And so you think they would lose five and six,

459
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 3: and your your head is saying Warriors and six. If

460
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 3: it's two too the worst as Sacramento is a win

461
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:00,080
Speaker 3: game five.

462
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 2: I'm pretty confident it's either going to be. Well, look,

463
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 2: I agree with Trey. It's like I said, this is

464
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 2: the Golden State Warriors. We just know they're going to

465
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 2: go to another level and we're all sitting here going

466
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 2: can the Kings do that? I like that Mike Brown

467
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 2: obviously was with the Golden State Warriors. Does that help

468
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 2: a little bit. I like that they faced some adversity

469
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 2: this year. Remember the King started zero to four again,

470
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 2: We're like, oh god, now they rallied like they've got

471
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,119
Speaker 2: some backbone to them, and that fan base is gonna

472
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 2: be rabbit like that will Unfortunately, it won't matter because

473
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 2: I believe they'll lose one of the first two games.

474
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 2: But Jesus, they haven't been on ABC since like I

475
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,360
Speaker 2: don't know when, the mid two thousands.

476
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 3: Probably never since.

477
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Speaker 1: I don't even think a game this year. I don't think,

478
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 1: so there's like four. I don't think three weeks of games.

479
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,719
Speaker 3: The thing with the Warriors is they don't even really

480
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 3: have to get to another level at home. They're thirty

481
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 3: three and eight at home. They're so good at home,

482
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 3: so they if they win obviously they win games three

483
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 3: and four after stealing one, then it's over in six.

484
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 3: I feel like the Kings can to get to seven.

485
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 3: They have to go steal one obviously, because I feel

486
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 3: like they're going to lose one at home. So I

487
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 3: do believe that they can steal one.

488
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 2: Because of the offensive firepower in this series, though, Like,

489
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: don't go turning off this game when Hey, I'm talking

490
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: to you, Grish, my buddy, Grish, don't go turn it

491
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 2: off this game when somebody's up fifteen to sixteen points,

492
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 2: you know, midway through the second quarter, it won't matter.

493
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 2: I don't think with these two teams with the way

494
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 2: they can shoot, the way they can score, it could

495
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 2: be gone, especially the way the Warriors sometimes gets sloppy

496
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,479
Speaker 2: with the ball as well, like don't let teams back

497
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 2: in the game, And I think the Kings can take

498
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 2: advantage of it. So I wout Kings and seven. Obviously

499
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 2: it's wishful thinking, but I'm just hoping they make some

500
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 2: noise here and at least we get a serious All right,

501
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: let's keep it going. Let's go to the number four

502
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 2: seeded Phoenix Suns versus the number five seeded LA Clippers.

503
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 2: They're going to meet each other here in the first

504
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 2: round in another Pacific Division showdown.

505
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 1: Also same time, Zones, Oh, I saw that was a thing.

506
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 2: These two teams.

507
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, same time, Zones.

508
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus. Big time Sons are hoping they're a big

509
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 2: Katie splash here. The trade deadline helps him win it all,

510
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 2: while the Clips are looking for some level of success

511
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 2: after landing Kawhi and Paul George back in what twenty

512
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: nineteen now no PG to start this series. Well, what's

513
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: one thing to watch, Trey? You get it started?

514
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: How do the Clippers play defense without Paul George? That

515
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: is a huge question for me because you look at

516
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: the starting lineup matchups, Russell Westbrook, Chris Paul Sure, that

517
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 1: seems to be what is gonna happen DeAndre Ayton and

518
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: it eats a zubots. They're probably stuck on each other

519
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: as well, But then it's kind of up in the air.

520
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: I think you would assume maybe Kawhi Leonard guards Kevin Durant,

521
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: but there's only one Kawhi Leonard right now on the Clippers,

522
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: and without Paul George, somebody's gonna have to guard Devin Booker.

523
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: So does that mean Eric Gordon or Nikola Batoum is

524
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: on Devin Booker. That seems like a bad idea to me.

525
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: So could it be Kawhi guarding Booker and then Batoum

526
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: on KD. I don't know. You're one wing down, and

527
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: it would be a perfect series to have two great

528
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,719
Speaker 1: defensive wings and Kawhi Leonard and Paul George. But I

529
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: assume that Kawhi is gonna guard Katie in the high

530
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: leverage moments when it really really matters, but he's gonna

531
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: have to stick on Booker, I do believe for the

532
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: majority of the game, just because they need somebody to

533
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: chase him around on screens. Maybe Terrence Man will eventually

534
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: move into the starting lineup as the series goes on,

535
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: but I don't think that'll start right away. Tyler's a

536
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: great adjustments coach, so maybe he pulls the trigger on

537
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,959
Speaker 1: that immediately, but uh, I don't know. It just seems

538
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 1: like there's too many Sons to guard right now for

539
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: the Clippers with only one great defender out there.

540
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, the versatility of the Clipper is going to play

541
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: a factor there with the defense. They do have a

542
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 3: lot of guys that they can throw out there, and

543
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 3: there's just a lot of guys to guard. With the Suns.

544
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: They are clearly the leaders in the star power category

545
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 3: in this one. Everybody can score on the Suns, So

546
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 3: the Clippers just gotta get dirty and grind it out.

547
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: And tylu is really really good at adjusting, whether it's

548
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: in game even starting Game one, there could be a

549
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 3: major adjustment in throwing in Terrence Man to guard Devin Booker.

550
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,479
Speaker 3: He's not scared of doing that. He wasn't scared of

551
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 3: not playing Russell Westbrook since they got him in fourth quarters.

552
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,959
Speaker 3: He's totally comfortable playing all his guys and they go

553
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: twelve deep. They literally can go twelve deep. The Paul

554
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 3: George factor is a factor. I think his defense is

555
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 3: hasn't been as good as it has been in years past,

556
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 3: and it's to me the worrisome part on the offensive end.

557
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 3: Are they gonna have enough scoring power just to match

558
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 3: the dudes in Durant Booker and Chris Paul and eaton.

559
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 3: Are they gonna have enough stuff scoring power because Clippers

560
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 3: have the depth, they don't foul a lot blah blah

561
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. But when it comes down to it,

562
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 3: the Sons are gonna score. Can Kawhi be a monster?

563
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: Can Kawhi do enough? Can Kawhi make up for not

564
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 3: having Paul George out there? As deep as they are,

565
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 3: They're gonna scrap? But what kind of Kawhi are we

566
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: gonna get in four quarters? Is it gonna be raptors Kawhi?

567
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 3: Is it gonna be like that old guy? And he

568
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: has been gearing up for this. It sure feels like.

569
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: Like that over the last little.

570
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: Bit, playing back to backs for the first time in years,

571
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 3: playing forty minutes looking awesome. But he's gonna he's gonna

572
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 3: have to be the best player because they Durant has

573
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 3: the support of Devin Booker and Chris Paul to a

574
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 3: lesser degree and DeAndre and I mean you can you

575
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 3: can say that they have you know, three of the

576
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 3: top five guys in this series. Three the top four

577
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 3: guys in the series. So that's the worriest part. Uh

578
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 3: do the can they match the star power?

579
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: Do you think we'll see Paul George in this series

580
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: at all or lak it out playing at all?

581
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: Oh?

582
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 2: No, you don't think so. Do you think that will

583
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: depend a little bit on how the series is going

584
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: or starting even or just like no chance even plays.

585
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's gonna play.

586
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: It was a pretty serious looking at it. Yeah.

587
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And all the reporting has been, like from Shaan's

588
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: has been they're gonna need to get out of this

589
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: series to see Paul jage. So I don't He's not

590
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: factory in my picks at least.

591
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he kind of well is the guy that

592
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 3: comes on slowly. I think after missing several weeks of play,

593
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 3: you know it's going to be almost a month most

594
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: likely by the time he comes back. I watched a

595
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 3: clip of his podcast podcast Pete with Paul George. Really

596
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: it was just a ratings play. He went out and

597
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: he updated everybody yesterday on his injury. Smart yeah, smart Sea.

598
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 3: It was like ninety seconds of him talking with ads,

599
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 3: talking about the interview. This was actually a well produced

600
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 3: podcast and that there were segments. It was edited. It

601
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 3: wasn't just hey, here's the Mike Paul uh this we

602
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 3: can do it. We can do it during your rehab,

603
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 3: you know, at the arena like this is in a

604
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 3: in a in a studio setting, lights are on. This

605
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: isn't Patrick Beverly with you know, he's doing his bathroom

606
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 3: wherever he does his his podcast. You get yeah, great idea. Anyway,

607
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: he said, he said, oh you want to know about that?

608
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 3: He basically said, he is. It's coming down to the

609
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: wire for him. So that means like he is, he

610
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: makes it seem like he could play.

611
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: It could be a.

612
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 2: Little gamesmanship, of course.

613
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, but he's working out a lot six out

614
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: of seven days, not seven days, three to four hours

615
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 3: every morning getting it back. So it's coming down to

616
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 3: the wire. I don't know what that means exactly, Like

617
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: if he doesn't start game one, then he's not playing

618
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 3: the entire series. But that knee brace was huge that

619
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: he was wearing. So if he didn't, if he wanted

620
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 3: to make it seem like he was coming back, I

621
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: think they'd take off the knee brace. So I don't

622
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: I don't know what the hell I watched, but I

623
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 3: watched Podcast p with Paul George for EP on Podcast

624
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 3: pob no Idea.

625
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to an X factor in this series, Trey,

626
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: who do you have circled in this one?

627
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: You know it's three point shooting, Doc, you know it's

628
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: three point factor. It's gotta be the Clippers though nineteen

629
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: and seven in games that they hit fifteen or more

630
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: three pointers, the Suns are just not a high volume

631
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: three point shooting team. That can obviously change with Devin

632
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: Booker being healthy, with Kevin Durant now in the lineup

633
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: and healthy, But the Clippers are a team that gets

634
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: really hot from three and takes a whole bunch of three,

635
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: so I think that they could beat them on a

636
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: variance game. There also another efficiency point is LA is

637
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: really good at getting to the line. Kawhi Leonard in particular,

638
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: Phoenix fifth or thirtieth in free throw rate allowed. They're

639
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: the worst in the league. At sending teams to the line.

640
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: So that's another way that the Clippers can win. So

641
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: those are the two areas I'll be watching the extra

642
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: points basically the Clippers hitting threes and the Clippers getting

643
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: to the line, because, like Tass said, it's hard to

644
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: keep up with the Suns scoring wise, but that's the

645
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: way the Clippers could do it.

646
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed, they got to do it in the other

647
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: you know, the four factors around the edges, like they

648
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: can they operate getting to the line, as you said,

649
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: making those tough shots because that's what they do. And

650
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: I wonder how small the Clippers are going to go

651
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: against the Suns, because the Suns can win around the

652
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: edges by offensive rebounding. That's that's what they do. They're

653
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: six then offensive rebounding. Kind of surprising when you look

654
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: at it like that. So Josha Kogi could get on

655
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: the glass and score a bunch of extra points to

656
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 3: go along with DeAndre And even though they don't get

657
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 3: to the line, and they've got the best mid range

658
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 3: shooter in the world and Kevin Durant and maybe the

659
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: third best mid rain shooter in the world and Kevin Booker,

660
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: they can they can out you know, sort of a

661
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: out edge the Clippers as well, but you know, just

662
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 3: strictly from like a personnel standpoint, I think Eric Gordon

663
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 3: is just going to have to be really really good

664
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: to support Kawhi Leonard. I think he's he's been very

665
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: good since he got back to the Clippers forty two

666
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: percent from three, and he can guard a bunch of

667
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: those guards. I know no one talks about his defense,

668
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 3: but he's capable. I think he can guard Paul. I

669
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 3: think guard Booker in a pinch when they're you know,

670
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: we'll get their switches. I think he can get under

671
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: Durant a little bit and then Durant will just shoot

672
00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: over him and score.

673
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: But I do.

674
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 3: Think that he will play a lot. He'll play in

675
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 3: fourth quarters. I'm glad we haven't started or even really

676
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: mentioned Russell Westbrook in this in this preview, and guy,

677
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 3: this is the Westbrook versus Durant series, it ain't. Westbrook is,

678
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: hopefully for the Clippers, gonna play first third quarters, and

679
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: then I think Eric Gordon will come in and have

680
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: to be a shot maker along with Norman Powell. Those

681
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: guys are gonna be important.

682
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: Westbrook has been playing well.

683
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: Recent yea.

684
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: So I mean if he can continue at that level

685
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: and not kill his own team and obviously taken it,

686
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: he'll advise shots and take control of the ball a

687
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: little bit, then they're gonna be happy with whatever minutes

688
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: he's playing. Obviously sort of in the rotations there, and

689
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: Lou's gonna give him a che He's gonna play, of course,

690
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: but you just don't want Russ. You almost just don't

691
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: want him to get into like, oh, that's Kevin Durant

692
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: over there. It's revenge time for everything that happened or

693
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: how it went down in Okase. But I don't think

694
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: he will. Let's get to predictions, then, who do you got?

695
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: How many games I got the Suns winning this one

696
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: in six games? I got a lot of love for

697
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: I think he will win a game for the Clippers

698
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: in this one. I can foresee a game where DeAndre

699
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: Eton gets into early foul trouble and Kawhi just takes

700
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: twenty three throws in the game, hits eighteen of them,

701
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: and puts up a forty berg. I also can see

702
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: a game where the Clippers hit twenty or more threes,

703
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: but the Suns are just too good, and I think

704
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: that they're gonna show that their eight to no record

705
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: with Kevin Durant in the lineup, yeah, against nobody's I mean,

706
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: one of the best teams they beat was the Bulls

707
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: and they completely smacked him and the balls are not good,

708
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: but that was like their best win with their squad

709
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: out there. But this will be a nice opening round

710
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: matchup for the Suns because they're gonna have to beat

711
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: the Clippers to beat them, I think. I don't think

712
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: the Clippers are just gonna give up the series, but

713
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: Phoenix two good sons and six Yeah.

714
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: I wonder if the Clippers can rekindle that magic where

715
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: they went to the conference finals a couple of years ago.

716
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: They ended up having you know, Kawhi out and Paul

717
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 3: George leading that team and somehow finding you know, seven

718
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: eight guys that were able to support him. I just

719
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: find that hard to believe. This year, Paul droge just

720
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: an important part of their offense, and their offense wasn't

721
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: all that good. So I'm just worry about those other

722
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: guys really supplementing that. Eric Gordon again, it's gonna have

723
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: to score a lot, and Norm Pell's gonna have to

724
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 3: score a lot. So I don't think that's gonna happen.

725
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 3: As much as I do believe in Tyleru, I believe

726
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: in that that versatility, I just I find it hard

727
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: to believe that they're gonna outscore the Suns. And I

728
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: don't think that factor of not having that chemistry with

729
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: the Suns only eight games together is really gonna factor

730
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: in it at all. So I'll take the Suns in six.

731
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: Sons and six. I like where you guys are going here,

732
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: I'll change it up just to be a little different.

733
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: I'll go Souns in five. But yeah, Kawhi, I'm pumped

734
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: to see obviously healthy here in a playoff series. That

735
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: makes sense that he's gonna drag him across the finish

736
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: line for maybe a game or two. But this is

737
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: just too much here from the Suns on it, Like

738
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: we like, it's all KD. Booker's gonna Booker's gonna have

739
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: a forty burger in one of these games, so easily.

740
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: This guy's all like he he steps up his game

741
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: in playoff series. So I think it's just gonna be

742
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: just too much here the Clippers and I think we're

743
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: all gonna go after the fact, like, oh, man, you

744
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: guys maybe should have tried to avoid the Phoenix Suns

745
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: in that first round. Maybe it helps your chances. Would

746
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 2: it had to have been through the playing probably, could

747
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: you have beaten the Grizzlies?

748
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 3: Man?

749
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 2: Maybe, But I think the Suns love this matchup. I

750
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: think they were excited about it, and I'll take these

751
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: Suns in five. Let's hear from everybody out there when

752
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 2: it comes to both of those series. Let's hear your

753
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: predictions in the stream team or in the comments below.

754
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 2: We'll take our first break, and when we come back,

755
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,479
Speaker 2: we'll look ahead to tonight's playing games.

756
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere, all right back with no dunks. I've

757
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 3: convinced myself after going back to look at podcast Peas

758
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 3: knee brace, Paul George's knee brace he was wearing in

759
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 3: his podcast. He's duping us he's playing in Game one.

760
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 3: Look how big that knee brace is. It doesn't look

761
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: like a guy who's ready to play basketball in four days,

762
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 3: not at all.

763
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: So you think he said give me the big break.

764
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: Better, actually give me the wide so you can see

765
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 2: my leg.

766
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 3: Look at it.

767
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: Hey, let's move out this glass table, or at least

768
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: make a glass so you can see through it and

769
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: see my big brace.

770
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: Is that table made from skateboard trucks?

771
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

772
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: That's does it spin? That's weird.

773
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: Skateboard p oh skateboard pe podcast amazing? All right? When

774
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 2: I say play, you say in play, in play, Let's

775
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: do it. We got two games tonight or underway. We'll

776
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: start in the East Hawks. It's been a while versus

777
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: the Heat. We're in Miami seven thirty pm Eastern TNT.

778
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: The winner advances to face the Celtics in the first

779
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: round as the number seven seed. The loser gets one

780
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: more crack at it, hosting the winner of the No

781
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 2: Dunks Bowl on Wednesday night. What do you think, Tass?

782
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: I know we've touched on it briefly on yesterday's podcast,

783
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: but you've had a little bit more time to think.

784
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: Do the Hawks have any chance to beat Miami?

785
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 3: A little more time to think, a little more time

786
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: to convince myself that the Hawks are going to beat

787
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 3: the Heat. I think I know they're the underdog.

788
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: I haven't seen anyone make that. I think I saw

789
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: one person. Sam Quinn of CBS Sports said the medic himself.

790
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: That's right. I heard Zach Low on a podcast probably.

791
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 3: What was he doing.

792
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: He was doing a Skeets esque kaw with I gotta

793
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: say a little more panache, like he felt like it

794
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: felt like he was making up for ten years of

795
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: not yeah.

796
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

797
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: The Heat dominated last year in that series against the

798
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 3: Hawks five games. I don't think I would take the

799
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 3: Hawks in a five game series, all right, in a

800
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 3: series against the Heat, but in a one game scenario,

801
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 3: I think they can do it. I think this is

802
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 3: a very different team with the John ty Murray beside

803
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 3: Tree Young, and they've looked like the team that could

804
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 3: beat my Heat in their recent games last seven games

805
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 3: or five and two, and they've done exactly what they

806
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: needed to do against the Heat in this playing game.

807
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 3: Trey Young over these seven games averaged twenty points, de

808
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: Jonte twenty one points. They've been sharing the ball. Last

809
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: year they didn't have that. They just they didn't. It

810
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 3: was DeAndre Hunter was their sort of their secondary guy.

811
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 3: Not good enough, Jonta Murray. I think it's gonna be

812
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 3: really confident getting into the lane against the Miami Heat.

813
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 3: That aren't as good as last year. Let's be frank,

814
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 3: they aren't as good as Defensively, They're starting Tyler hero

815
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: now in their backcourt. They don't have a healthy Kyle Lowry,

816
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 3: even if he does play, I think it's a very

817
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: different team. Clint Cappella was also injured in three of

818
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: five of those games last year, so I think it's

819
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: it's different and the Hawks have been playing their best ball.

820
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 3: The Heat have been playing fine as well. They've had

821
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 3: some really good games where they look like the Heat.

822
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: But I think the dynamics have changed, and I think

823
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: they're buying into Quinn Snyder. I really they didn't have

824
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 3: any sort of secondary action last year. When Trey got stopped,

825
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: it was ugly and he was bad. But they have

826
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: a secondary guy now who's super confident, so I think

827
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 3: they could do it. I think they are definitely the underdog,

828
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 3: but I don't think the Heat's home court advantage all

829
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 3: that good, so I'm taking them.

830
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: Wow, what do you think Jimmy Butler already guaranteed a victory.

831
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 3: That's a bad thing.

832
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: He already predicted. I'm getting the win in this one.

833
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: Then we'll go play the Celtics. Tesss is right, though,

834
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: needs to be a big to Jonte Murray game if

835
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: the Hawks are going to have any chance this season.

836
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: Trey's shooting twenty per game against the Heat, but he's

837
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: only shooting thirty five percent from the field in the

838
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: one game the Hawks won the season, great game for

839
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: Murray twenty eight points, seven assists, eleven for seventeen from

840
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: the field, and Trey Young had ten turnovers in that game.

841
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: That is the problem is that the Heat seemed to

842
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: have Trey Young's number in last season's playoffs twenty two

843
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: field goals for Trey, thirty one turnovers, and it was

844
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: so bad that they went out and got to Jonte Murray.

845
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: So that was basically the entire reason they did it.

846
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: But the Heat can lose this one easily. They don't

847
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: shoot the ball very well at all. They're twenty seventh

848
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: in three point percentage, but they take a lot of

849
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: them to kind of make up for that. The Hawks

850
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: don't always take advantage of it. They're twenty first in

851
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: percent but only twenty attempts. They got to hit threes tonight,

852
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 1: which means Trey Young has to hit threes, which means

853
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: maybe Sadik Bay needs to get off the bench a

854
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: little bit here to hit some threes, and they have

855
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: to hope for a poor shooting night from Miami. And

856
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: also the Hawks have to make sure they keep the

857
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: Heat off the line. The Heat force a bunch of turnovers.

858
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: The Hawks don't turn it over very much, so maybe

859
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: that's something they could slid towards the Hawks. But if

860
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler is just living in the lane going to

861
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: the free throw line all night, the Heat will score

862
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: enough to beat the Hawks.

863
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: Young, we've talked about this, has struggled against the Heat

864
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: in his entire career, not just last year's playoffs.

865
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 3: Throw me off every time you say Young, I don't

866
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 3: know who you're talking about.

867
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: Trey Young. I used tray himself against Spoe. In seventeen

868
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: career games versus Miami, he's averaging just twenty one point

869
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: four points per game. Okay, that doesn't sound that bad,

870
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: but forty shooting thirty two percent from three. It's even worse.

871
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: In the four games this season, they do a good

872
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: job of just rattling him, and they have bigger guards

873
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: and they trap him and they say, yeah, go ahead, Hunter,

874
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: you beat us, Yeah, go ahead, John Collins, you try

875
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: and beat us, like you know now you have John

876
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: day Murray though, and it did work in that one game.

877
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: So he has to have a monster game. He has

878
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: to be big, big, big tonight for them to pull

879
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: this off. The thing with Butler is, I mean, we

880
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 2: talk about it with the Warriors, right like, yeah, okay,

881
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: they don't really care that much about the regular season,

882
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: but they're sixteen game players. When the playoffs come, they

883
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: go to another level. That is Jimmy Butler. I couldn't

884
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 2: believe this. He has six forty point games as a

885
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: member of the Miami Heat, all in the playoffs. Now,

886
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: I know Tonight's playing game is not really the playoffs,

887
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: but it's the postseason. But that's wild. He's never done

888
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 2: it in the regular season as a Miami Heat member.

889
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 2: Six of them in the postseason. And according to Elias Sportsbureau,

890
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 2: this is a fun trivia question for you guys, Butler

891
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: is one of two active twenty point per game scorers

892
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: with at least one hundred playoff games who has raised

893
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: their points per game, their rebounds per game, and their

894
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: assists per game in the postseason. Can you name the

895
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 2: other active player who scores over twenty points per game playoff?

896
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: Yea a lot.

897
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: We just talked about. Why no close, Paul George, Paul George,

898
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: I know playoff for a reason. Not only does Jimmy

899
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: have good success against the Hawks, so does Bam. I

900
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: think it gets overlooked. Twenty five, ten and four you

901
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: averaged in the four games versus Landa this year too.

902
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: I like that now under Quinn Snyder, the Hawks hit

903
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: the glass like their second in offensive rebounding first and

904
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: second chance points again since Quinn Snyder took over, So

905
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: maybe those extra possessions keeps him around. I think it's

906
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 2: gonna be a close game, and then it's like which

907
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: star is gonna take over. I'm gonna bet on Jimmy Butler,

908
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: you know against Obviously.

909
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: It's a good bet bet on Jimmy Butler.

910
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: He's proven it time and time again. But hopefully it's

911
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: a close game because I always wonder in these seven

912
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: eight matchups, if you're getting like blown out, it's like

913
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: you sort of have to make a decision as a

914
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: head coach in the organization, like should we just like

915
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: save the guys for Friday night, like we get another

916
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: crack at it. If you're down a lot and it's

917
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 2: getting out of control, it's like you maybe just like, hey,

918
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: let's see what the bench can do and let's rest

919
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: the starters and like we got to play again on

920
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 2: Friday night. You know, hopefully it doesn't happen to me

921
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: because we want a close game, but it's always in play.

922
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: Any other thoughts on Hawk's heat.

923
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 3: I think yes, Sadik Bay Trey mentioned him briefly there.

924
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 3: I think he could be big. I think he's going

925
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: to come off the bench, and he's been playing better

926
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: for the Hawks. Defensively, he's been passable, and if John

927
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 3: Collins isn't hitting shots, you can see Sadek Bay take

928
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 3: like all of his minutes, really a bunch of his

929
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 3: minutes sound stretch. He could play a lot and the

930
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 3: man can shoot. And that's what the Hawks were missing

931
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: last year as well, just really reliable three point shooters

932
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: and they were missing a Capella and the bogged in

933
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 3: wasn't himself. So I think they're healthier and they do

934
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: have shooting so that the makeup is better. But you

935
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: know they're not going to stop even though the heat stink. Defensively,

936
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: they're not going to stop the heat either, So it

937
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 3: should be in a weird way. Even though he can't

938
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 3: score a high scoring game.

939
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: Is this Trey Young's one of his final games is

940
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: in Atlanta Hawk. Did you read Kevin O'Connor's ringer piece

941
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: on the possibility I guess if you want to call

942
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: it that of the Hawks if they had to get

943
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: desperate here in the offseason moving off of a guy

944
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: like Trey Young.

945
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: I read something similar in The Athletic months ago when

946
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: they said that basically everything is on the table going forward.

947
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: I still think it's a huge move to move off

948
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 1: your franchise superstar, a guy who has a cool, well

949
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: known celebration. So I don't think so. But I mean,

950
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: if this goes poorly and then Friday goes poorly against

951
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: the Bulls, then maybe we're talking yeah, possible.

952
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to tonight's other game. It's the

953
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 2: second game on TNT ten pm Eastern. Will it start

954
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: at that time? I doubt it. It'll be a little later.

955
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: But it's Wolves Lakers and we see Anthony Edwards a

956
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: funny Lebron James picture there.

957
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: So here's Adam Sandler face.

958
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: The winner of this one, Wolves Lakers advances to face

959
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 2: the Grizzlies in the first round of the number seven seed.

960
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 2: The loser obviously gets another chance at it. Big news

961
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 2: though from this game or heading into this game after

962
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: punching teammate Kyli Anderson during the World's regular season finale

963
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: on Sunday. Minnesota did suspend Rudy Gobert for one game

964
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: by making him unavailable for tonight's matchup. Of course, the

965
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: Timberwolves will also be without their defensive star Jaden McDaniels,

966
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: after he fractured his hand punching a wall at halftime

967
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: of that same game. I guess he thought it was

968
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: just a curtain and he didn't know there was a

969
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: concrete wall behind it. So, you know, we talked about

970
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: it yesterday before we knew the Gobert news. A lot

971
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: of us were saying, Nah, they'll probably let him play

972
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe tell them to miss game one

973
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: of next year's regular season. But in the end they

974
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: decide to say just stay home. How shocked were you

975
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: by that?

976
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: I was honestly surprised. I suppose if it was a

977
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: nine to ten game, maybe a different choice as well.

978
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: They will at least have a second chance if they

979
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: don't beat the Lakers tonight. But I mean, from a

980
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: franchise standpoint, if a player punches another player, especially in public,

981
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: they have to be suspended. Otherwise you're losing any sort

982
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: of credibility going forward. So I think smart move by

983
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: the Timberwolves, but still surprising to me.

984
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to have integrity as a franchise, you

985
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: do it. But I guess we sit here and we

986
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: think strategically wise, you'd want that guy on the floor,

987
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 3: especially with that. I know we're just thinking about the game,

988
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: but as far as an organization, they're thinking about it

989
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 3: long term. They want Rudy to be an integral part

990
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 3: of their team. They gave up a boatload for him,

991
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 3: so I don't think they want this to go down

992
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 3: just down by the wayside this season already, so I

993
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: think they're thinking long term. They're not thinking this game,

994
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 3: even though I was sitting here thinking, you don't have

995
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 3: nas Reed as your backup center, right He's gone, so

996
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: you want Rudy out there. That being said, going into

997
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 3: this game, as Kyle Anderson pointed out, Rudy's back was

998
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 3: he wasn't He wasn't playing all that well. So they

999
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: played pretty well in the second half without him. His

1000
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: back was an issue. And Kyle Anderson also said in

1001
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 3: those recorded leaks, if you believe those leaks, that the

1002
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: Wolves baby Rudy Gobert too much and now they're not

1003
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 3: babying him. So the Wolves all grown up. I guess,

1004
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 3: I don't know. I have some faith with the Wolves,

1005
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 3: but they are gonna be short handed big time.

1006
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: This was already going to be an uphill battle to

1007
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: beat the Lakers in LA the way they're playing recently

1008
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: with a d with Lebron, with all their ex Wolves,

1009
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: I mean there's so many There's like Daniela Russell, Malik

1010
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: Beasley and Vanderbilt all X Minnesota players. But now no Gobert,

1011
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: more importantly, no McDaniels to at least try and keep

1012
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: someone in check on the perimeter. No whnas Reid is huge.

1013
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: That's that's not looking good. Like Anthony Davis should I

1014
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: know Carl will try his best here, but he should,

1015
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: he has and should dominate once again tonight. So this

1016
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 2: is I don't like the chances of the winning this game.

1017
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I would have liked them with all

1018
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: these guys healthy.

1019
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: Uh.

1020
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: With the way the Lakers are playing, it's like two

1021
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: teams sort of going in opposite directions right now a

1022
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: little bit. Lak are sort of on the rise at

1023
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: the right time. The Wolves unfortunately with all of these

1024
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: self inflicted wounds sort of going the other way. Can

1025
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards pop off for one game here? He was

1026
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: amazing down the strata.

1027
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: He was completely locked in on both ends of the ball.

1028
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: He was like that in the playoffs last year as well.

1029
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: He had some incredible games where he looked like the

1030
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: best player on the court. And I think that's how

1031
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: the Timberwolves could win, as if Edwards has an explosion

1032
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: kind of game and is the best perimeter player out there.

1033
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns shooting forty seven from three since.

1034
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: Returning, do not foul like that?

1035
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: Is My biggest concern for this game for the Wolves

1036
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 1: is without three front court players and Gobert, McDaniels and Reid.

1037
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: If Karl Anthony Towns gets two fouls and like the

1038
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: first eight minutes of this game, it's jover baby. The

1039
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 1: Lakers draw so many free throws, especially since Lebron complained

1040
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: about the call against the against the Celtics, they're also

1041
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: playing at home. I don't know. Maybe sitting Gobert was

1042
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: the right thing from a vibe standpoint, and because perhaps

1043
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: it could make the Lakers overlook the Timberwolves a little

1044
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 1: bit here not give a full effort, which I think

1045
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: is something that has to be a concern for the Lakers.

1046
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: A big Towns game, in a big Edwards game, is

1047
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: how this gets done. You're in Minnesota, you.

1048
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: Are saying it's instrumental for Karl Anthony Towns, Like if

1049
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: he's already got a foul in them early, give up

1050
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: the ad, dunk, give back Lebron, you know, drive to

1051
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: the rim, like, don't put them on the line because

1052
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:51,959
Speaker 2: you're gonna kill yourself with that second.

1053
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 3: Wel that's interesting.

1054
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably right. He needs a play. He obviously

1055
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: needs to splash threes. They need I mean, we're talking

1056
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: about Anthony Edwards having to have a monster game. Everybody

1057
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 2: has to play above their heads here. I think for

1058
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: them to pull this out against the Lakers, who are

1059
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 2: they have been one of the best teams since sal

1060
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: start break as we keep breaking up.

1061
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 3: And if Anthony Davis wants this win and wants to

1062
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 3: play to his capabilities like he has been recently and

1063
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 3: a recent game against the Wolves he was monstrous, he

1064
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 3: can win this game. That's it done and done. The

1065
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 3: Wolves advantage of having a lot of big guys and

1066
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: being big and being really good defensively is gone. Carlington

1067
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 3: Towns is now the five, and even though he's been

1068
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: really good offensively, this is totally different. Nathan Knight will

1069
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 3: probably get minutes as the backup center. That's a problem.

1070
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 3: Ady can have his way with that team. I think

1071
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 3: that they do have enough on the perimeter with Torrian

1072
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 3: Prince and Kyle Anderson and Anthony Edwards who steps up

1073
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 3: not only offensively but defensively in the playoffs to slow

1074
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 3: down the Lakers. And how great they've been playing in

1075
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 3: Austin Reeves and Braun But it's up to a d

1076
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 3: and yeah, Anthony Edwards again is so good, so good,

1077
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 3: so good when the lights come on, special guy, and

1078
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 3: he could could have one of those games. It is

1079
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: funny the other night when the Pels were leading the

1080
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 3: Wolves and Rudy Gobert goes out all of a sudden,

1081
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards seemingly looks like he takes over, but Karl

1082
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: Anthony Towns really took over. And Anthony Edwards in that

1083
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 3: play where he had that monstrous block and then had

1084
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 3: the dunk at the other end, he also gave the

1085
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 3: ball away in the middle of all that. You know,

1086
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 3: like he he does get a little over zealous and

1087
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 3: tries to do a little too much. He was eight

1088
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 3: of twenty one in that game, didn't shoot all that well,

1089
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 3: but four blocks force deals does so much. So it's uh,

1090
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: it's a good recipe for the future for the for

1091
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 3: the Wolves. But I would take the Lakers for sure.

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00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 2: Okay, so you are taking the Lakers. You're not even

1093
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 2: convincing yourself the Wolves can win this one game.

1094
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 3: I'm taking the Hawks. I know what I'm saying.

1095
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 2: I didn't even see Sam Quinn take Minnesota in this game.

1096
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 3: Not even so much good podcasting mentions here podcast piece

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00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 3: Sam Quinn zach Low cooka. It's a great throw in a.

1098
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 2: KOSC article too. She did shout out to the mismatch

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00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 2: content right now to consume everybody talking about the same games,

1100
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 2: and we'll be talking about to tomorrow. You have the

1101
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 2: Lakers in a close game, dominant win. Where are you going, like.

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00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: We go nine point victory, nine point victory for the Lakers.

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00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: I think the seven seeds always win these games. I

1104
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: don't think they've lost to an eight seed yet.

1105
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 2: Is that true.

1106
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure maybe one has lost, but generally in

1107
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: the play and if you have home court advantage.

1108
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 3: You win.

1109
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: Where are we at? You're four of these zero four

1110
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: if we count the bubble one which.

1111
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: Was a little weird.

1112
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so Lakers Lakers. I also have the Lakers.

1113
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: Let's hear from everybody out there. Who do you got

1114
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 2: in the Hawk's heat and Wolves Lakers game tonight? I'm pumped.

1115
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: I'm excited. I mean, the playing games, like I just know,

1116
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: like it is the fun, you know. I know it's

1117
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 2: not one and you're done for these teams tonight, but

1118
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 2: still the stakes are high. Cool, stakes are high. Man,

1119
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 2: It's still cool man, Still cool?

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00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: H Does that matter again? It's been a month of games.

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00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what's basically here.

1122
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, if you're the Lakers or the Wolves, you

1123
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 3: want to play the two seed, I'd say rather than

1124
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 3: lose this game and then play the for the eight

1125
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 3: seed versus the Nuggets.

1126
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 2: Interesting?

1127
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 1: Interesting?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm talking strategy. You were already

1129
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 3: talking about talking the Lakers future. Oh no, you're talking

1130
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 3: about the Warriors future. Well, I'm thinking Lakers future here. Yeah,

1131
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 3: you'd rather have the grizz and the Nuggets.

1132
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 2: This playoff picture is set up pretty damn nice. For

1133
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 2: the Lakers, and when you think about it, right, if

1134
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: they can win tonight be the seventh seed, a lot

1135
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 2: of people are going to pick them against the Grizzlies.

1136
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 2: I mean that would be a competitive series, I think,

1137
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 2: but to avoid then being on the two three side

1138
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 2: of things, to avoid the Nuggets or in theory of

1139
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 2: the Suns like and not having to meet one of

1140
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: those teams until the conference finals. If they could, then

1141
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 2: you know, continue to get by whoever wins the three

1142
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 2: to six match up between for.

1143
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 3: Sure that side of the bracket, the non reseeding way

1144
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 3: that the NBA does it, for sure the two threes.

1145
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 3: The Kings and war and Grizzlies fans out there are saying,

1146
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 3: what about us, Right, We're in a good side of

1147
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 3: the bracket too, because they are.

1148
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 2: All right, we gotta take our final break when we

1149
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 2: come back. Trey Kirby over there has got tweeted the night.

1150
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 2: It's a good one. Don't go anywhere, all right, if

1151
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: you're here, live right now on YouTube. Thank you, thank you,

1152
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: thank you. Hit that like button, make sure you subscribe.

1153
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: Let's get to tweet of the night.

1154
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: Tweet of the night, Wow, twt.

1155
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, tweet of the night comes from Andy Larson. That's

1156
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: Andy Blarson on Twitter, Andy B.

1157
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 3: Larson.

1158
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: It's award season and the voters, those lucky voters had

1159
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: to get their votes in yesterday. Here's Andy's tweet. One

1160
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: thing I didn't know as I fill out the awards

1161
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: ballot for the Clutch Player of the Year award, they

1162
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: asked the thirty NBA head coaches for their top five

1163
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: most clutch players not on their own team, then made

1164
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: the list of finalists from that. Here's the list.

1165
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 2: Huh, that's the entire list. That's the entire live So

1166
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: the coaches picked a lot of the same players.

1167
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of the same players. And those players'

1168
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: names are Bradley Beal, Devin Booker, Jalen Brown, Jalen Brunson,

1169
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler, Stephen Curry, DeMar DeRozan, Luka, Doncic, Kevin Durant,

1170
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: Joel Embiid, Daron Fox, shake you out to us, Alexander

1171
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: Buddy Heal of the Sacramento Kings. That's what it says,

1172
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, Nicole Jokich, Damian Lillard, Donovan Mitchell, Julius Randall,

1173
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum. Looking at that list, I think that the

1174
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: clutch Player of the Year is gonna come from that list.

1175
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be Darren Fox Do. But yeah,

1176
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: that was a weird twist to this.

1177
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw John Schuman was surprised as well. I

1178
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: think he was going to possibly throw a vote to

1179
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: Tyler Hero and then he was like, oh, I don't

1180
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: even have the option. Now do you get to vote

1181
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 2: like one, two three in this or is it just

1182
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: like clutch Player of the Year one guy. That's a

1183
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 2: great question, because I thought Schuman was making it sound

1184
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: like he was gonna give like an end of the

1185
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: ballot maybe to a Tyler Hero. But I don't know.

1186
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: I shumsan the stream.

1187
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I mean just from just from

1188
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: Andy's screenshot, it looks like you're just clicking Yeah, one

1189
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: name does of those whatever? Thirteen players, eighteen players whatever.

1190
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: Nineteen I counted nineteen. Nice.

1191
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 2: It's honestly not a bad list. Not a bad list, No,

1192
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 2: I mean, here's something.

1193
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: Okay, there is a weird one. Yeah, that one is

1194
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: weird to me personally. But it's almost like they let

1195
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 1: the coaches do the ballot first, put in our top five,

1196
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: and then you pick from that top five. I don't know,

1197
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: cool though, very cool, just cool. I don't know what

1198
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: else to say. That's just cool. That's how Jerry West

1199
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: would have wanted to do it this way.

1200
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting. Like like you were saying, like,

1201
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 2: why did they keep this a little secret because it's

1202
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: caught a lot of people by surprise. Yeah, it's like, Oh,

1203
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 2: I thought I was just gonna be I guess writing

1204
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: in my names or getting to pick from any player

1205
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: in the league. But you're telling me who I can

1206
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: pick from.

1207
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 3: I guess they save the dumb votes from happening.

1208
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 2: Ah, good call, right.

1209
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 3: Like, Oh, I'm voting for he met to sure?

1210
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: You know, sure Schuman's here? He says one, two, three,

1211
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: you get Okay. I'm think he was having hero second

1212
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: on his ball. There you go. So I guess that

1213
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: couldn't even vote for him. That's the biggest snub here.

1214
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: Who's number twenty on your clutch players list?

1215
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: Alright? I assume did she have Fox number one? Let

1216
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: us know, Sho, I'm guessing you probably did. It's either

1217
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 2: Fox brunts and Derozen maybe Shaye, it's Fox is gonna.

1218
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: Win would be last year, not so much this year.

1219
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: Fox and Shae, I imagine are going to be one

1220
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 1: and two.

1221
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 2: Okay, uh you agree with that?

1222
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 3: We have one hundred percent. I like I would all

1223
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 3: shook down. I like this.

1224
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: That's a new, nice, new voting stuff. I'll just dropped. Yeah.

1225
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 3: I received a message also on from reddit. You know

1226
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 3: how we do our monthly reddit show. Yeah, a post

1227
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: just dropped there the alt NBA Awards, which they always

1228
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 3: do just random categories. It's totally random none and we

1229
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 3: just made great, great stuff. Much of Player of the

1230
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 3: Year probably not on there, but you know that type

1231
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 3: of least Valuable player, probably that type of stuff. We've

1232
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 3: got to do a show on that. I think that

1233
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 3: would be perfect this time.

1234
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, so least Valuable Player, what seventh Man

1235
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 2: of the Year, Like, what are some other ideas? And

1236
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 2: I'm putting you on the spot.

1237
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 3: I know I haven't checked the post.

1238
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: Okay, check the posts.

1239
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 3: I could check it.

1240
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: Oh you're saying, take the post, do maybe our NBA

1241
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: Reddit podcast and then sort of answer chime in on

1242
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: their specific The.

1243
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 3: Real sixth Man of the Year presented by Brent Berry. Oh,

1244
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 3: It's presented by the spark Plug Award, the most Loose

1245
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 3: Balls Recovers Award, The Plexiglass Award, The West Unsold Memorial,

1246
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 3: Brick Wall Award, Screener of the Year, basically, the dead

1247
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 3: Shot Award, best qualifying three point percentage, showing some love

1248
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 3: to those those players who don't get enough love. Your

1249
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 3: Canard's your Horford's Horford second and three point percentage. The

1250
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 3: Stormtrooper Award, The if he Dies, He Dies Award?

1251
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 2: He Dies? What does that one mean?

1252
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 3: Presented by Tom Thibodeau, sponsored by OH Surprising, This is surprising.

1253
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 3: Most minutes played this year tied a guy you'd think

1254
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 3: would be no. Randall's not on there at the end

1255
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 3: of the season. Not edwards you'd think games played, but

1256
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 3: just minutes played. Classic minutes played players one, and a

1257
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 3: guy you never think of tied with at thirty seven

1258
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 3: point four. Guy you don't think who plays a lot,

1259
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 3: not a Kuhi, but in years past because of other reasons,

1260
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 3: hasn't played thirty seven point four, just stacking up the

1261
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 3: minutes per game. Thirty Yeah, Black Hole Award, Hot Potato Award.

1262
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 3: This is great.

1263
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: This sounds like a full podcast.

1264
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: Let's wrap this podcast, start another one. Guys, enjoy the

1265
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 2: playing games tonight. We're back tomorrow to recap those games,

1266
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 2: look ahead to the Wednesday night playing games, and we

1267
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 2: have some more playoff series to start previewing and predicting.

1268
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: Let's hear your predictions in the YouTube comments below. Thanks

1269
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 2: for joining us here today. We'll see you tomorrow at

1270
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: ten am Eastern from the Classic Factory. Until then, Clipper Brose.

1271
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Speaker 1: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 1: Love you guys awesome.

1273
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and remember we say play, you

1274
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 3: say yeah, play yeah, see you then

1275
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Speaker 2: Brace the day people,