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Speaker 1: Hello friends, and welcome into Betting Pros College Football Week

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Speaker 1: eight Early Line look Ahead. I am Chris Welsh hosting

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Speaker 1: the dynamic duo of Eric Croton and thorn Nystrom. You

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Speaker 1: can find these two fine gentlemen four KU and c

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Speaker 1: F Froton. Get them on the Twitter the X and

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Speaker 1: also make sure you're following over on the Betting Pros

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Speaker 1: app which we'll talk about in a little bit, so

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Speaker 1: you can follow all the bets. We are looking at

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Speaker 1: all the games where we can get value. But first,

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Speaker 1: let's bemoan how ridiculously stupid Colorado is for losing me

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Speaker 1: all the money by having a twenty nine nothing first

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Speaker 1: half lead. And then there was a bunch of stupid

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Speaker 1: games this weekend. I was on with Ferrell and Bogman

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Speaker 1: Thor early in the week and I was like, I

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Speaker 1: just got a back USC Week six, NFL Week seven

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Speaker 1: College Football. It's a little eye opener for me. Is

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Speaker 1: there anything we can feel good about after just watching

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Speaker 1: money get drained down the sink and the toilet?

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Speaker 2: Thor?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the weekday games, I was ready to put my

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Speaker 3: fist through the television. I lost on the Hail Mary

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Speaker 3: in West Virginia game with Hulgo. Yeah, and then the

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Speaker 3: next night with coach Prime was up twenty nine to nothing.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I think I had minus ten and

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Speaker 3: was about ready to go to bed, and then Stanford

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Speaker 4: I'm really not okay.

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Speaker 3: Luckily, my Saturday was was good, so I was able

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Speaker 3: to you know, get off the ledge, I guess, you know,

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Speaker 3: and turn that thing around or whatever. But yeah, we

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Speaker 3: had a fun, like a really fun college football Saturday.

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Speaker 3: And in addition to the betting, the action on the

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Speaker 3: television screens, the noon slate we knew wasn't going to

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Speaker 3: be very good, you know, so we got some you know,

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Speaker 3: cleaning of the house done and stuff like that, and

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Speaker 3: the three wide screens and oh my gosh, the Oregon

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Speaker 3: Washington game was everything I wanted it to be and more.

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Speaker 3: And then the games, you know, for you know, the

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Speaker 3: rest of the games on that afternoon and then into

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Speaker 3: the evening. We just had a great college football Saturday,

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Speaker 3: and very much looking forward to the week ahead. We

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Speaker 3: have all the adjusted lines and totals already done, looking

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Speaker 3: forward to talking about them with you and for a

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Speaker 3: ton right.

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Speaker 1: Now, we're going to rock these you know. Funny I

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Speaker 1: was that if people can see on the video, anyone's

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Speaker 1: watching them, the scorpion on my hat, it's Arizona Fall League.

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Speaker 2: It's baseball.

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Speaker 1: I'm a baseball guy. And I was out Saturday and

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Speaker 1: there was this triple header baseball game going on with

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Speaker 1: all these minor leaguers. But what was hilarious is college

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Speaker 1: football was dominating because we were there all day. The

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Speaker 1: players are there, people were doing triple headers, and I

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Speaker 1: was sitting with some people. We had the Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: some players. This guy for the Colorado Rocky, he's been

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Speaker 1: in Montgomery, Penn State guy asking questions.

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Speaker 4: They're asking scores.

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Speaker 1: I had probably four different players ask about the USC

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame score as well. So college football living beautifully

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Speaker 1: even into the baseball world real quick time.

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Speaker 2: How about the player prop market?

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Speaker 1: Was it as maybe less disappointing than some of the

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Speaker 2: Week, Well, the player prop markets are never as disappointing

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Speaker 2: as the game markets because it's so much easier control

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Speaker 2: what one player is going to do as opposed to

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Speaker 2: a whole team. So yeah, particularly the alt lines, they've

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Speaker 2: been extremely profitable over the since draft Kings put him

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Speaker 2: out pretty much three weeks ago. Hit Tyler van Dyke

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five yards. He threw for four hundred

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Speaker 2: bo Nicks. He went over there his three twenty five

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Speaker 2: of course the saving the best for last from my

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Speaker 2: friend thor none other than Rowan Atkinson, arguably the Charlie,

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Speaker 2: the Charlie Chaplin of our generation, the greatest silent comic

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Speaker 2: mister Bean four hundred and eleven yards that was a

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Speaker 1: I wish it was just legal here where I am.

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Speaker 1: That's all that we're looking for. Come on, baby, let's

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Speaker 1: all right, speaking of let's get going into these early

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Speaker 1: line looks here for Week eight. We got a good

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Speaker 1: some Tuesday action and Froton has already pinpointed some very

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Speaker 1: interesting matchups where we've seen some line movements. We got

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Speaker 1: a pack slate for you. And speaking of my friend

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Speaker 1: Benny Montgomery, his Penn Statement Nitney Lions. They are six

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Speaker 1: and zero, three to zero and the Big ten. They're

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Speaker 1: going up against Ohio State. We've got an OU line

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Speaker 1: kick us off on Saturday. This is a fantastic game.

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Speaker 1: So Thor what are we seeing in this? What kind

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Speaker 3: There's really not in terms of where my systems at.

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Speaker 3: I'm seeing the line at four and a half right now.

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Speaker 3: My systems line on this game is Ohio State minus

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Speaker 3: four point four. I am right where Vegas is on

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Speaker 3: this thing. So you know we're gonna be spending the

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Speaker 3: an eye on Penn State's defense has been absolutely nasty

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Speaker 3: this season, in particular against the pass. So the Penn

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Speaker 3: Kyle McCord to make plays in this game. Penn State

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Speaker 3: about that. Penn State is a very has the very

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Speaker 3: But I do think it's an objectively fair line. With

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Speaker 3: handicapping this week. Where my system is showing some value

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Speaker 1: For don that's exactly where I was going to go

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Speaker 1: there a play in your mind? But is the total

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Speaker 1: something you're going to take a look at. So what

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Speaker 1: do you think about Penn State Ohio State?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. The market opened at fifty and a half,

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Speaker 2: and as Thor munched, it dropped. But you know, when

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Speaker 2: Penn State's pass defense has been elite. You know, in

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Speaker 2: really faced an offense that is the caliber of Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: They just went and rolled Massachusetts, but Iowa no offense,

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Speaker 2: And obviously, you know, Ohio State has looked a little

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Speaker 2: you said, you know, there can Ohio State run the

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Speaker 2: and and you know, no one's talking about Maryland's vonted

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Speaker 2: That's concerned. We didn't have Trevion Henderson last game against Perdue.

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Speaker 2: They didn't need him obviously against the boiler Makers, but man,

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Speaker 2: in a you know, who cares kind of a game.

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Speaker 2: But you know I did, like in terms of the

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Speaker 2: preseason where Penn State was at they were plus six

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Speaker 2: it to win the Big Ten. And they have done

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Speaker 2: nothing to dissuade me from thinking that they are a

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Speaker 2: you know Thor is on the right path, But man,

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Speaker 2: I want to believe in Penn State, you know, I

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Speaker 2: State's vulnerable. You see the kinks in their armor. And

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Speaker 2: potential first round pick in twenty twenty five, gas it

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Speaker 2: up and really make Ohio State pay. That's really what

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Speaker 2: I'm interested in. I lean Penn State because of my

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Speaker 1: So we got a Froton Penn State play. We've got

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Speaker 1: an over according to the adjusted Thor line. Couple plays

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Speaker 1: for you, if you guys want to get into that action,

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Speaker 1: Let's go and take a look at a PAC twelve

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Speaker 1: are four and two going up against Oregon, who's coming

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Speaker 1: in at five and one two and one in the

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Speaker 1: PAC twelve Oregon, the early line I see is eighteen

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Speaker 1: and a half favorite at home. So thor is there

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Speaker 1: any value and what play are we looking at, if

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Speaker 3: This is one where both my side and my total

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Speaker 3: are right where Vegas is my side on this one

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Speaker 3: Oregon minus nineteen flat and my total the Vegas one

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Speaker 3: is sixty and a half mine is sixty two and

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Speaker 3: a half. This one's interesting because both these teams got

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Speaker 3: to pick themselves up off the mat, right. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Wazoo a team that generally is awesome and Pulman just

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Speaker 3: got smacked around by Arizona, a game that not a

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Speaker 3: But Noah Fafita and crew went into Pulp but it

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Speaker 3: just absolutely annihilated Wazoo and then Oregon, a team that

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Speaker 3: I mean objectively, He'll played Washington in Seattle yesterday. But

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Speaker 3: there was all the situational plays you know that you

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Speaker 3: It's like, what team is this? Are they who I

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Speaker 2: A bit more dominant? Man? If you ask me this

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Speaker 1: Let's go over to the SEC where ten sees going

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Speaker 3: My line on this game is Alabama minus seven point six,

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Speaker 3: you know, not over a key number in this one.

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Speaker 3: Alabama struggled yesterday against Arkansas. They were able to squeak

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Speaker 3: I mean Tennessee can definitely be had. But that was

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Speaker 3: to do in this game. I'm probably not gonna end

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Speaker 3: up betting this one. My system does have a lean

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Speaker 3: to bet that over, you have to trust the quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: you know, and and both the run defenses are good,

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Speaker 1: Me, Barton, there was a there's a little bit of

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Speaker 1: talk to us about what some of that line movement

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Speaker 2: Sure, the marginal line movements on the line itself opened

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Speaker 2: up at eight and a half currently, like you said,

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Speaker 2: But really the story is, and Thory even alluded to

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Speaker 2: on some places. But that's a five plant. It's almost,

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Speaker 2: you know, a full touchdown drop. The reason why is,

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Speaker 2: Offense Hunting Hooker, high flying aerial Assault, Cedric Tillman, you

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Speaker 2: know Jalen Hyatt. You know that is the past Okay,

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Speaker 2: this is not a good passing team. Joe Milton eleven

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Speaker 2: And this is a young offensive line who's taking some hits.

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Speaker 2: But I said, I'm in the I'm in even though

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Speaker 2: I think you got to kind of take the points

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Speaker 2: That's kind of where I'm at. I agree with the

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Speaker 1: getting into a little bit later and we're going to

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Speaker 1: jump over to Minnesota versus Iowa six and one Iowa

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Speaker 1: thor what do you got on this game? Is there

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Speaker 1: some value as you rock that Iowa hat? Are we

437
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Speaker 1: smashing in Iowa? Bet this week?

438
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Speaker 4: Talk to us?

439
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Speaker 2: This is the Civil War.

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Speaker 3: I'm the only person that would get a big smile

441
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Speaker 3: on my face talking about this game. Yeah, in Iowa City,

442
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 3: which is the only thing that brings a frown in

443
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Speaker 3: my face, or else I could go and sit up

444
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 3: in the box for this one. But my line on

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Speaker 3: this game is Iowa minus nine point two.

446
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Speaker 4: I there.

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Speaker 3: You know, if I may, I've noticed there's been some

448
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 3: disrespect in the books towards my my Hawkeyes this year.

449
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 4: And you know, I mean this this goes back a

450
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Speaker 4: little bit.

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Speaker 3: You know, It's it's like there's the perception in the

452
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Speaker 3: market that just because you know a team can't throw

453
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Speaker 3: a forward pass or can't play offense, that you know

454
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Speaker 3: you can't bet on them, right. I mean last week

455
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,959
Speaker 3: they were a double digit underdog to Wisconsin. That Wisconsin

456
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 3: team they don't play much offense either, and you know,

457
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Speaker 3: Iowa ends up witting that game by nine points despite

458
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Speaker 3: the fact that my boy Deacon throughout that how many

459
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Speaker 3: yards did he throw for?

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Speaker 4: It was a thirty six, I believe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right on the money. I was

462
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Speaker 2: gonna say thirty four, But I don't have it offhand.

463
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Iowa, we don't.

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Speaker 3: We don't need to throw for years to cover games

465
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Speaker 3: and win ball games or make.

466
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Speaker 2: The Shawn Williams on the field back it's.

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Speaker 3: Right, or or or to go to Indianapolis and make

468
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Speaker 3: the Big Ten title game.

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Speaker 4: Uh, this one I think.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I think Old Minnesota is in trouble if I if

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Speaker 3: I'm being honest, Athan Kelly acmanis is not good. The

473
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Speaker 3: Minnesota offense is terrible, and teams that have offenses that

474
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Speaker 3: are nearly as bad as Iowa's. You are in deep,

475
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Speaker 3: deep trouble because Iowa the way that they want to

476
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Speaker 3: play it's you get into a boat and they're gonna

477
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Speaker 3: drag you out into deep water and they just want

478
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Speaker 3: to laugh at you and watch you drown.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 3: They do the thing where then it's like, you know,

481
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Speaker 3: it's like you know, you know, get you back deep

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Speaker 3: into your territory, and then the three and out and

483
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Speaker 3: then they'll do the you know, like you'll they'll be

484
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Speaker 3: around midfield, they're fine going three and out and then

485
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Speaker 3: Tory Taylor, that the awesome Australian punter Hill Coffin corner,

486
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Speaker 3: you you know, and then it's they just wait until

487
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Speaker 3: you screw up. And then you throw a pick six

488
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Speaker 3: to Cooper to shown who's going to be a top

489
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Speaker 3: ten pick, or you have to pun out of your

490
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Speaker 3: own end zone. Maybe they tip it, maybe Cooper gets

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Speaker 3: it at the forty five and now he returns it

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Speaker 3: for a touchdown. Something like that's gonna happen and they're

493
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Speaker 3: gonna win ten to sex or something like that or whatever.

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Speaker 4: This Minnesota team stinks.

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Speaker 3: It's not like the ones the past couple of years

496
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Speaker 3: where at least they had a fighting shot. And by

497
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Speaker 3: the way, PJ. Fleck, I don't know if he's beaten

498
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Speaker 3: Iowa yet. I don't think he has. Off the top

499
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Speaker 3: of my head, it's already been a bugaboo for him.

500
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Speaker 3: I realized that Iowa's offense was already ran sid It

501
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 3: was so rancid that they had to put that clause

502
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Speaker 3: in Brian Farrens's contract where he had to average twenty

503
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Speaker 3: five points a game, which he categorically is not going

504
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Speaker 3: to get there.

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Speaker 4: Their offense, by the way, it was already terrible.

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Speaker 3: It was so you know, and they went out and

507
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 3: they got Cad McNamara who was injured for the season.

508
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: They went out and they got Eric all who was

509
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Speaker 3: injured for the season, and Luke Lche who was their

510
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 3: best returning offensive player. He's injured for the season. And

511
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Speaker 3: they didn't have any receivers.

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Speaker 4: So, like, it's what can they do?

513
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Speaker 3: They have like this amalgamation of running backs that like

514
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 3: they have a couple DS ones, none of them are standouts,

515
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 3: so you know, they're gonna try to manufacture some stuff.

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Speaker 4: What they should do is put Cooper.

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Speaker 3: De Jahn on offense and then have him be there

518
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter. They're not going to do that because they

519
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: lack imagination. They want to do the drag yocht to

520
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: deep Waters, saying it doesn't matter. This line is beneath seven.

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Speaker 3: I don't really care. They're gonna win again. It's gonna

522
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 3: be like thirteen to six, or it's gonna be, you know,

523
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Speaker 3: seventeen to nine.

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Speaker 4: You know, like it's gonna be something like that.

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Speaker 3: My line is Iowa minus nine point two, like I

526
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Speaker 3: think I was gonna win by seven or more points

527
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 3: I'm taking I'm taking Iowa in this thing. Interestingly, the

528
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 3: total end this game is is thirty two point five,

529
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Speaker 3: which is probably it's probably fair. My systems total thirty

530
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 3: four point two. But I'm I'm telling everyone out there,

531
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Speaker 3: I forbid you for betting the over. I will drive

532
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 3: to your house and grab your wrist before you bet

533
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Speaker 3: the over. Do not bet the over in this game.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Five and a half is that line

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Speaker 1: that I'm currently seeing on Iowa. So that's a key

536
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: marker that Thor was talking about. Froton, So you got

537
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: a bet on this, I mean, you're obviously unless you

538
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: want to visit from Thor smashing things. You're not going

539
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: to be playing an over. But is there a total

540
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Speaker 1: or a line or anything different from what Thor was

541
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: talking about?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean his ANALYSI is obviously exceptional. These are

543
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: the two Thoor teams. So I will not try to,

544
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: you know, talk over anything to that effect. Will I

545
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: will defer to him, but I will say to speak

546
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 2: to the Minnesota offense. If you don't have Darius Rucker Taylor,

547
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: I only want to be with you in that backfield

548
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: back there, they can't do anything Sean Taylor all one

549
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty pounds Sean Tyler. They're not going to

550
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: be able to run on Iowa with Sean Tyler back there.

551
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: They need Darius Taylor, their freshman sensation, so badly if

552
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 2: he isn't playing. I mean, I don't understand. You're like,

553
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: this is a Service Academy under on a week where

554
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: we have a Service Academy game where our Air Force

555
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: is actually playing Navy. They're at like they ended up.

556
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: They started at thirty eight and a half, they're down

557
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 2: to thirty six and a half. It's still way lower

558
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: than a Service Academy game. So we should tell you

559
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: what we're getting in here and you can't take it over.

560
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: So that tells you just a little bit what we're

561
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: dealing with. I agree with Thor that being said, you

562
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: know they call Alabama the Crimson Tide, call him Deacon Hill,

563
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 2: the great Jared Lorenzen clone. Maybe not quite the passing acumen,

564
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 2: but he has the waistline of Jared Lorenzen and that's

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00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: what we're here for.

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Speaker 4: He's winning games.

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00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: As Thor has mentioned to us, I will say he

568
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: was listed at one twenty five and a half his

569
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: passing yardage last week. That was absolutely flagrant. I can't

570
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 2: believe that. You know, there's an automatic under at one

571
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: twenty five and a half. But if you see Deacon

572
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 2: Hill at one twenty five and a half, you see

573
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: you see Deacon Hill at one hundred and a half,

574
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 2: you have to take that over as well. So be

575
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: aware of if they are bull enough at the domestics

576
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 2: to list our friend the great Deacon blues Hill Steely.

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00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: Dan under passing yards half the wait. So that's always

578
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: an interesting prop there.

579
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: I sent out a text about it if Darius is

580
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: playing versus Iowa, So stay tuned til the end of

581
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: the show.

582
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 4: I'll see if I get a response on that.

583
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: But either way, the Minnesota offense is not moving the

584
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 3: ball much in this game. And another thing I'll say is,

585
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: again I am the opposite of a believer of Athan

586
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 3: calliak Man. Minnesota needs to get into the portal to

587
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 3: find a new quarterback over the offseason. The nightmare scenario

588
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: for Minnesota in this game is if you're down late

589
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: in the game, which almost assuredly they will be, caliak

590
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 3: Manus has to throw. Minnesota is not coming in through

591
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: the back door if they're down in this game, so

592
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,239
Speaker 3: you can't hope for it. It's going to be the

593
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 3: opposite thing. That's when it could be Cooper Desjon time

594
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: again with the pick six. Athan does not see the

595
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 3: field well. And by the way, his arm is not

596
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: as good as advertising in the cities here and the

597
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 3: Gopher coaching staff when when Tanner was the starter here

598
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: Tanner Morgan who it was like a make a wish

599
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: thing when he got to spend five days on the

600
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 3: Vikings practice squad. I found it was it was funny

601
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: with the Vikings signed him for five days to be

602
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: on there whatever, so he could say he was, you know,

603
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: in the NFL but the Gopher staff that you know

604
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: that that year or two when Athan was was backing

605
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 3: them up, they were telling everybody like, oh, you know Athan,

606
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: you know he's an NFL player, and you know he's

607
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 3: got NFL tools and you know all this stuff. They

608
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 3: were super excited about him. First of all, Ethan does

609
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 3: not see the field very well. Second of all, Ethan

610
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: doesn't have even close to an NFL arm. He's always

611
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: late on the reeds and then the ball doesn't zip

612
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: out of his hands. It is a bad scenario for

613
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 3: them if he has to throw from behind, a very

614
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 3: bad one. I was going to flip the field on

615
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,479
Speaker 3: him if that has to happen at all, they baby

616
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: him with the reds. And again, if that is what

617
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 3: the scenario becomes, Uh, Cooper de John, his eyes are

618
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 3: going to get biggest saucer.

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Speaker 1: The Thor Ball. You guys have officially all your info

620
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Speaker 1: and your bets for the Thor Bowl coming up this week.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go over to Texas versus Houston. We've

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Speaker 1: got a over three touchdown marker on Texas. I'm not

623
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: sure what Houston plays into this, but Thor you got

624
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: any value any line stuff on Texas versus Houston as

625
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: a play that you'd want to jump into early.

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Speaker 3: That was the thor ball. This is the Tom Herman book,

627
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 3: I would say for this one. So my line on

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00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: this one is the Longhorns minus nineteen point four in Houston.

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Speaker 3: Interesting one in the Houston absolutely should have lost alast game.

630
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 3: They pulled that one out, you know with that hail

631
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Speaker 3: Mary does that? You know, do you have any residual

632
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: sort of momentum from that coming into this one?

633
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 4: I'm not really sure.

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00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: Houston got out gained by West Virginia in that game

635
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: by over one hundred and fifty yards and they it

636
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 3: was the time of possession was like a discrepant. See

637
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: have like ten minutes in that game too. This Houston

638
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: team stinks what it has and this is isn't a

639
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 3: surprise from the Dana Holgerson teams of the past. They

640
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: have two amazing NFL receivers and the rest of the

641
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: team is dog poop. So like, you know, can they

642
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: can it give him a fighting chance here against Texas?

643
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: We'll see they can generate the big plays because of

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00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: that they chose. You know, it's like in Indiana Jones,

645
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: remember when the guy grabs the cup and then he's like,

646
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 3: you chose poorly. That's what I would tell hullgo about

647
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: his portal choice with Donovan Smith. I like Donovan Smith

648
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: as a quarterback. He's just not a system fit for

649
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: what they do. They had to go out and get

650
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: a pocket passing, accurate dude at quarterback. Donovan Smiths not

651
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: necessarily that, he's just not They should have gotten a

652
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: pocket passing guy to play up the stud outside and

653
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: the slot receiver that.

654
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 4: They got there.

655
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 3: But in this game, you do have the line inflation

656
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 3: that you're typically gonna have to play, you know, our

657
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: pay against Texas. I hate to say it, but I

658
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: would probably have the slightest of leans towards Houston. But

659
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: I have all kinds of trepidation backing Dana Holgerson specifically

660
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 3: on this this team because I keep waiting for and

661
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: by the way, that the last game, I think if

662
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: they had lost lost to West Virginia in that one,

663
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: simply if if West Virginia, I can see it in

664
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: my head all the West there was two kids. All

665
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: they had to do was literally bat the ball down,

666
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: and instead what there was two kids that tried to

667
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 3: intercept that the ball went up in the air and

668
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: then the Houston you know, right to the Houston kid,

669
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: he catches it. If one of them West Virginia kids

670
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: had just batted the ball down, we were officially on

671
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: Dana Holgerson, watch the Fertidas. For Fritida brothers, they're basically

672
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: the owners of the Houston College athletics program. They have

673
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 3: more money than God. They're just waiting for the moment

674
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 3: that they can buy out Dana Holgerson. Now the Cougars

675
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: are in the Big twelve, they'll go out. They can

676
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 3: go and get any guy that they want. And if

677
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: you don't think people like the Fertida brothers have seen

678
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 3: what Deon Sanders has done at Colorado. The excitement I'm

679
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: not talking about the Stanford game on Friday, but the

680
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: excitement that he brought there and all the revenue, the

681
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 3: different the things that they've sold there, the TV, all

682
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: that different stuff, the media. You're kidding yourself. The Fritidas

683
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: are just waiting until they can make a higher l

684
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: like that and then have the transfer portal build that

685
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: program up in the same way that Dion did. They

686
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 3: have all the facilities there and you're in Houston, one

687
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 3: of the great recruiting fertile grounds in America. This is

688
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: a game where you know you could be teetering there

689
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: again if Houston starts to get drilled. But objectively, just

690
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: by the data and the numbers, there is a little

691
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 3: bit of value on Houston, and it is over key numbers.

692
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 3: But because of that, I will probably end up staying away.

693
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: My system also says that we're right there with the

694
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 3: total and there's not value that on either. I'm probably

695
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: gonna stay away, but I'll be investigating this one a

696
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 3: little bit more during the week.

697
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 4: For a time.

698
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: What about you there, there is a little bit of

699
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: value there on that Houston side that crosses that three

700
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: touchdown threshold. Is that a Houston play for you? Is

701
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: there a Texas player or is this a big stay away?

702
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: Houston has played utsa rice TCU Sam Houston Texas Tech

703
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 2: in West Virginia not exactly a murderer's row. In zero

704
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: of those games outside of Sam Houston State they beat them.

705
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: They've had a twenty eight percent win percentage or less

706
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: in every single game. They had a twenty one percent

707
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: post game win expectancy last game against West Virginia. And

708
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: it speaks more to how the Neil Brown regime has

709
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: gone at West Virginia than it really does about how

710
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 2: great dan er Holderson anything he really did in terms

711
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: of that game. So I have no faith in this

712
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 2: Houston team as discussed, if West Virginia doesn't go into

713
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: like a pseudo prevent in that second half, you know,

714
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 2: because as discussed Donovan Smith, he had about forty yards

715
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: passing at halftime. They weren't doing anything at halftime. They

716
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: coapilly run well outside of a fifty eight yard or

717
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: by Stacy Snead. They weren't doing anything on the ground either.

718
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: It is a true miracle that they were able to

719
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 2: pull this off. I do not feel comfortable taking Houston

720
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: in any circumstance against Texas, absolutely not, especially you know,

721
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 2: post warpath. Oh you Texas. I do like the idea

722
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: of the over sixty one and a half, you know,

723
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: right around where it's at right now, simply for the

724
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: fact that I think that it's not going to be

725
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 2: even a remote challenge for Texas to score on Houston's

726
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: one oh ninth ranked defense overall. And I do think that,

727
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: you know, once they get up, Houston will be able

728
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 2: to do play the prevent game. And probably have a

729
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: have a go at this. I think it ends up

730
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: going over at the end of the day.

731
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 4: All right, let's go over.

732
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 1: This is a great game here. We've got Duke going

733
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: up and battling against Florida State ACC matchup six and zero.

734
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: Florida State is a thirteen and a half point favorite.

735
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: Looks like it's teetering. There might even be some line

736
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: movement that we've seen. We'll get with Throton here in

737
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: a second. But thor is there a bet for Florida

738
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: State here? Or is Duke going to come and spoil

739
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: the party?

740
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

741
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: I would be on Florida State here because I don't

742
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: think Riley Leonard is going to be back in this one.

743
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 3: The you know, last week, Duke is able to smoke

744
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 3: around or smack around the zombie North Carolina State team

745
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: that I'm sick of watching North Carolina State. We talked

746
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: about that this year. North Carolina you can't even be

747
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 3: Duke without rather, you can't even be viable.

748
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 4: I think I think that game was twenty four to three.

749
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 3: I again, get North Carolina State, get off my TV.

750
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 3: Sick of watching you guys, And kudos to Duke, you know,

751
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: for I'm so impressed with Mike Elco, you know, sort

752
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 3: of going the other way. It's like the circumstances don't matter,

753
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: They'll figure it out.

754
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 4: You know.

755
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: They show like the cameras in the law locker room,

756
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: and it's like it reminds me of when I was

757
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 3: in high school, like in my locker room in brainer Minnesota.

758
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 3: You know, the facilities that they have there. But it's

759
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 3: a different thing.

760
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 4: Now.

761
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 3: You got to go to Tallahassee and you got to

762
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: play this Florida State team which just had like a

763
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 3: ritualistic killing of Syracuse. And with the line where it

764
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: is right now, it's under four touchdowns, Florida State has

765
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 3: is starting to turn it on.

766
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 4: You guys.

767
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 3: Remember was it two weeks ago when it was it

768
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 3: was the Red Bandana game and Florida State played way

769
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: down in that one, and you know it was like

770
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: they got a little bit of a scare. But then

771
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 3: they had the I think they had the bye week

772
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 3: and then Trey Benson had talked during the bye week

773
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 3: of Florida State had really struggled to run the ball

774
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: up till that point, and Trey Benson's like, we're going

775
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: to figure out the run game. We had to figure

776
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: out the run game. And then coming out of that,

777
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: Trey Benson runs for like two hundred yards on eleven

778
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 3: carries against Virginia Tech, a Virginia Tech team that's now

779
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: playing playing a bit better surprisingly, and then uh, and

780
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 3: you know, the Florida State smacks them around. Then they

781
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: smack around Syracuse. I I mean, Mike gelko is he

782
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 3: has forgotten more about defense than most of these coaches

783
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: will ever know. But I don't know how he is

784
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: going to contend with this Florida State team. And once

785
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: the Florida State offense starts going now that they can

786
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: run the ball, and then we have to keep an

787
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: eye on the status of Johnny Wilson. Johnny Wilson missed

788
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 3: the last game. But if they get and I don't know,

789
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 3: I don't know what you know, we'll have to monitor

790
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: that this week. But if Florida State is able to

791
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: get Johnny Wilson back, But you know, even irregardless, you

792
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: have a first round receiver out there anyway, with with

793
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 3: Keon Coleman. They have so they have so many weapons.

794
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 3: They're getting that running game going gonna be hard for

795
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 3: Duke to contend with that. And then once that offense

796
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: gets going, you don't have Riley Leonard. I would assume

797
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be out for multiple more weeks.

798
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 3: How are you going to keep pace on the scoreboard

799
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 3: getting this thing beneath two touchdowns? I think to play

800
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 3: here is Florida State?

801
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: Well for the time, I think we saw it over

802
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: the two touchdowns, and it looked like it moved in

803
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: favor of Duke a little bit early on. So talk

804
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: to us about the line movement and what that means

805
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: for you if you're placing a bet on this game.

806
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 4: That is correct.

807
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: It opened up at fourteen and a half, you know,

808
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: actually it is currently fourteen and a half.

809
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 4: It should be with it.

810
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: Actually, where is it right now?

811
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: I say at thirteen and a half in.

812
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: A thirteen open up at fourteen and a half. Moved

813
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: down a little bit, but really again we're looking at

814
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 2: the totals and it started out with fifty one and

815
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: a half down to forty nine. Actually saw across that

816
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: threshold in a couple of books if you shop it

817
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: a little bit, and it just goes to show these

818
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 2: are a couple of teams that are fairly slow paced. Obviously,

819
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: Duke is famously as as Thor covered, you know, succinctly

820
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: very defense based. They're gonna want to run the ball

821
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 2: and try to protect them. However, you've got Henry Bellen

822
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 2: the Fifth, Henry the Fifth as Shakespeare play. We've all

823
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: seen it in a great movie Kenneth Brnna, incredible director.

824
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: You should all check that out if you want to

825
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: get your Shakespeare history. And but Henry bell In the

826
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: Fourth is not quite up to Riley Leonard's standards. Only

827
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: completed four passes last game against NC State through two touchdowns.

828
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: They were bombs, you know, to his credit to Jalen

829
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 2: galp Calhoun. But you're gonna you're gonna need some Riley

830
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: Leonard here. I know he had a sprained ankle and

831
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: the last play of the game is previous game for Duke.

832
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 2: Clearly they held him out and they managed to still

833
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 2: go and handle NC State. But I mean, you need

834
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: Riley Leonard to be in this game. You need that

835
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: to happen. If Riley Leonard is not playing, this is

836
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 2: going to be a bloodbath. Mike Elco or not, they're

837
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to keep pace because they got

838
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: Jared Verus and still an excellent defense over there with

839
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: Florida State. You know, to their own credit, they've played

840
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: some tough teams. You know, they've had a good schedule

841
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: to kind of deal with. But I do think that

842
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: the under is looking pretty appealing to me, especially if

843
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: that happens, since that will be kneecapping a run based

844
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: duke offense.

845
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 1: All Right, we got two more games on our main slate,

846
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: and we'll do some quick hitters on some line adjustments

847
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: and some interesting lines. We've got another PAC twelve matchup,

848
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: Utah going up against disappointing USC, who got smacked around

849
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: by Notre Dame. Uh, but US is coming in as

850
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: a four and a half point favorite. Had they beat

851
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I wonder how much bigger, how much how

852
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: bigger this would have been, maybe even over a touchdown?

853
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: But what do you think four and a half on

854
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: the line, thor you taught USC USC cannot stop anybody,

855
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 1: only themselves lately, So what do you think.

856
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 3: Uh, Utah, if they if again, if if Cam rising

857
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 3: it and Keithy aarn back again, they're gonna say hold

858
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: by Beard and we'll see about that.

859
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 4: But yeah, you're you're you're totally right about that.

860
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: What A, what A, what A? What a strange performance

861
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: by USC last night. You know, you guys know I

862
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 3: was on Notre Dame in that game. I was pretty confident,

863
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: and even I was having a hard time wrapping my

864
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 3: head around that. One of my buddies, you know, I

865
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 3: told you guys, I had buddies over last night and

866
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: we we we ordered Indian food and we bet the

867
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: tab on it. My my buddy who was over, he

868
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 3: was he was very confident in USC.

869
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 4: I was pretty confident Notre Dame.

870
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 3: And uh, even sitting there, I was, I was, I

871
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: just couldn't put it to where it's I was so

872
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 3: stunned with how poorly us he was playing. And then

873
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: I guess you know by depth, you know the other

874
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: side how well Notre Dame was playing. But it's gonna

875
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: be tough for us he to to sort of pick

876
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: themselves up off the ground.

877
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 4: You wouldn't assume that.

878
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: That Caleb Williams plays as as poor as he you know,

879
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 3: did last time again, But I think there are some

880
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 3: things in there that are endemic to just the team

881
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 3: of USC.

882
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 4: Again.

883
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 3: I don't think Caleb Williams plays as poor as he

884
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 3: he did again, But the other stuff. I'm not sure

885
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: how some of those things get corrected. One of them

886
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 3: is he doesn't have another singular talent with him on

887
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 3: offense right like last year he had Jordan Addison. They

888
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,959
Speaker 3: don't got another guy like that. I think in a year,

889
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 3: Branch becomes one of those guys. You know, after the

890
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 3: first game, I was saying, Branch is their best skill. Guy,

891
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: play Branch. Later in the year, you're gonna need Branch

892
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: because you don't got one of them.

893
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 4: TODJ.

894
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 3: Washington's not a guy. He's not a number one guy.

895
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 3: He's gonna be maybe drafted like mid to late day three,

896
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 3: maybe Dorian Singer. It's the same thing. He can't create separation.

897
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 3: That's why you see him shove people every time, like

898
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: at the catch point. He's got great hands, absolutely great hands,

899
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 3: but he just he just doesn't, you know. He needs

900
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 3: to shove people to get separation. That's all the guys

901
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: they're tight ends are it's the same thing. And the

902
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 3: running back Marshawn and Austin they're okay, you know, but

903
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 3: they're mid to late day three guys too. And so

904
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: the offensive line it's, man, it's okay, you know, And

905
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: and and then the defense is horrid.

906
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: It just is what it is.

907
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 3: So it's Caleb Williams propping up all these other mediocre players. Uh,

908
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: that's what we're gonna get the rest of the season

909
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 3: in the Utah team gave him some real problems last years,

910
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 3: as you boys know. But again, this Utah team is

911
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: severely depreciated by injuries itself. I mean, we we we

912
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: That's been the case all season. They've been with aut

913
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 3: you know, we talk about Cam Rising and Kifi all

914
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 3: you know, every single week, but it's been more than that.

915
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: They've been the mash unit to walking wounded every single week,

916
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: and every single week we're like, is this week for camera?

917
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 3: You know, it's just a broken record. We're gonna have

918
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 3: to monitor that situation. And then you know, the other

919
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: part of the handicap is can usc pick themselves up

920
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 3: from that embarrassment. I do believe Caleb Williams that the

921
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: game on Saturday, that's gonna be by far the worst

922
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 3: game of his college career. You believe that he will

923
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 3: bounce back in a big way. But the other stuff

924
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: I think that remains his teammates they're just not that great.

925
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 3: That is what it is. He gonna have to play

926
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 3: Superman the rest of the year. And Utah's defense is

927
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: really good. But you know who else is coming back

928
00:44:59,200 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: on you, Tom Notch.

929
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 4: Sure.

930
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: My just a line on this game is USC minus

931
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: six point one. So I am showing a little bit

932
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 3: of value on USC. You rarely get that. Usually you

933
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: have to pay the tax on USC.

934
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:11,479
Speaker 4: This week.

935
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 3: It's different today. Of course, on Twitter, everyone's saying, oh,

936
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams is overrated, and now Drake may is that.

937
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 3: You know, you always get the overreaction in the day

938
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 3: after you're getting the overreaction in the market the other way.

939
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 3: I'll probably be on USC in this game, honestly, But

940
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: barring I have to look into the injury information once again.

941
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: On on Utah. There was a story in The Athletic

942
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 3: last week where the surgeon for both Keithy and Rising

943
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 3: was talking to the Athletic about their prognosis and stuff

944
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 3: like that. I'm gonna look a little bit more into that.

945
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: I know that this was a target date for Utah

946
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 3: coming off the bye week, looking at or not the

947
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: buy that was the week before last week.

948
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

949
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: On Saturday they played Cal which is a quasi bye week,

950
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 3: but they were circling the USC game as a potential

951
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 3: return date. That's something that you do have to monitor,

952
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 3: but you know, just in sort of a vacuum. This

953
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 3: a game that they would want to but what to

954
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 3: see on that, but USC outside of that would be

955
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 3: a quasi sort of lean for me early in the week.

956
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: All right, for a time, what do you think USC Utah?

957
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: What type of line movement? I think we've seen a

958
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: little bit early on as this just dropped on Sunday,

959
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: And are you a Dak Prescott molds into Caleb Caleb

960
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: Williams meme type of guy. That was the big meme

961
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: we saw on Sunday late Saturday, was it was Dak

962
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: Prescott or Caleb that would just fade into to Dak Prescott.

963
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: So was as somebody who you know during Caleb's before

964
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: even played it down on Caleb's freshman year, watched his

965
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 2: spring game where Spencer Ratler went out there and was

966
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: middling and Caleb went eleven for eleven and looked like

967
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: God incarnate on that field. I knew right away. I

968
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: was like, oh my gosh, okay, this is happening. It's

969
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: happening way sooner than anybody really thinks because he is

970
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: right out of the gate better than Spencer Rattleer. It

971
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: happened that being said, you know obviously that was that

972
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: was as Dorset. That was his worst performance. So it

973
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: is entire great hands down, it's just what it was.

974
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 4: And I mean JT J.

975
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: D Bertrand was all over the bathfield. I mean he

976
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: was abusing that left tackle for a USC for Notre Dame.

977
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: But what really found interesting is, you know, deservedly so

978
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 2: mister Alex Grinch, who I can't believe I've said it before,

979
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: I'll say it until it happens. I don't know why

980
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: he hasn't gotten the Lane Kiffin tarmac treatment. If lane

981
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: Kiffin gets the tarmac treatment in USC, Alex Brinch deserves

982
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 2: the tarmac treatment. Surprisingly, their defense only gave up two

983
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty one total yards last game against nore Dame.

984
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 2: The reason why is cause they kept getting the ball

985
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: on the twenty yard line going in because of the

986
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: ungodly turnovers that we saw from Caleb.

987
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 4: I mean just it's.

988
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: An absolute breakdown catastrophe that we could say from an

989
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: offensive standpoint from USC, we haven't seen him be even

990
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: remotely that bad all season and this was their game.

991
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: I just kind of had to figure that something was

992
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: gonna give. But you know, it wasn't like Notre Dame

993
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 2: did anything amazing execution wise on offense. They were just

994
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: handed a golden ticket and walked into the Willy Wonka

995
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: Factory end zone and forty eight to twenty later, it's

996
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: it's over that being said, you know, this is Utah.

997
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,439
Speaker 2: This doesn't have the steady hand of Sam Hartman in there.

998
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 2: Nate Johnson, you know we were throwing him in. Oh nope,

999
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: we're gonna go not this game. They go insite Bryson

1000
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: Barnes last game against Cali only threw twenty one passes.

1001
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: Sione Vaki goes for one point fifty eight and two

1002
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: touchdowns on fifteen carries last game, maybe taking over that

1003
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: number one roll over jaquinnin Jackson. So Utah wants to

1004
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: run the ball on you. They wanted to run the

1005
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: ball over you. And you know the good thing is

1006
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: this is the defense to do that against USC ranked

1007
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteenth in terms of rushing performance. Not

1008
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: good at all. But like you said, it's camp riseing

1009
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: gonna be there because I don't think we see that same, Caleb.

1010
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: I don't think that we're gonna see you know, another

1011
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: three interception performance, despite the fact that Utah has got

1012
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: an incredible d that I have a great deal of

1013
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: respect for because my cousin, Cole Bishop is on it. Obviously,

1014
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: I have to mention that anytime we talk about Utah.

1015
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 2: But I mean, I just don't feel confident in taking

1016
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 2: Utah with if they don't have rising there. I mean,

1017
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: I gotta think that that is gonna get exposed. They've

1018
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: already had that kind of happen before. They're not scoring

1019
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: points unless it's cal that they're playing against.

1020
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 4: I got to back USC.

1021
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: I gotta go, even though they're coming off a bad game.

1022
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 2: I got it. I'm golaying the points that I'm going

1023
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: with them, all right.

1024
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: Final one on the main slate, we've got two four

1025
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: and two ACC teams, Miami hosting Clemson thor do we

1026
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: have any lined value? Do we have anything we want

1027
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: to bet on this bad boy? On Final one on

1028
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: our big slate?

1029
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got this one as a pick them and

1030
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 3: and it's you know, Clemson minus three in the market

1031
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 3: right now. I think the market is fading Miami because

1032
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 3: of you know.

1033
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 4: Two weeks ago you had the implosion.

1034
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 3: By Crysta Ball, and then last week they lose by

1035
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 3: ten two or you know to U n C. They

1036
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 3: they had a shot to back door that one, depending

1037
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 3: on the line you got. You know, at the end

1038
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 3: they were they were driving there.

1039
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 4: I was on U n C.

1040
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 3: So I was happy they didn't. They didn't back door.

1041
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 3: We were we were watching that one there on a

1042
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 3: secondary screen. But this Miami team is is decent, you know,

1043
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 3: barring the the crystal ball thing there and whatnot. And

1044
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 3: you know, this one just comes down to can they

1045
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 3: they picked themselves up off the mat, you know now

1046
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 3: that they're their season you know, you know whatever.

1047
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 4: But like I didn't think that they were going to

1048
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 4: make the College Football Playoff.

1049
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 3: You know, I think only the most diehard Hurricane fans

1050
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: would have thought that. And by the way, Clemson, their

1051
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 3: season dreams are already done too. So I mean, like you know,

1052
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 3: I mean, it just is what it is. You just

1053
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 3: sort of put this one in the on field thing.

1054
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 3: Miami's got home field advantage here that Miami generally does

1055
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 3: not have a home field advantage when it's you know,

1056
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 3: one of the small games, like people don't fill the

1057
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 3: stadium whatever they typically do, and it's a big game

1058
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 3: and Clemson is is very clearly a big game. You

1059
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: know that this is going to be on national television

1060
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 3: and different stuff like that. This is a shot to

1061
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 3: pick Clemson off. And I think this Miami team is decent.

1062
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 3: You know, people are going to get off them now

1063
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 3: because they've they've lost two straight.

1064
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 4: But you know it's they.

1065
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 3: Should have obviously they they've literally should have beaten They

1066
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 3: had that game against your attack and then they were

1067
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 3: at least competitive in that the game against UNC last week.

1068
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 4: So I for me this game, what the line should

1069
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 4: be is pick them.

1070
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 3: It's just you know that because the circumstances of those

1071
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: ones is why the line is minus three. Maybe some

1072
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 3: name brand taxation on Clemson. I'm give me a Miami

1073
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: getting those three points where it's it's just inflation there.

1074
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: All right, Photon quickly, what do you like on this one?

1075
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 1: Miami Clemson?

1076
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1077
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: Man, you got a feel for Miami, you know, eighty

1078
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: nine percent win expectancy, the infamous crystal ball calamity there

1079
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 2: and then last week last game against North Carolina, they

1080
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: didn't play badly like they were right there with the

1081
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: North Carolina team that has proved themselves to be a

1082
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: legitimate contender here. Like you know, they have fixed the

1083
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 2: wrongs on defense through you know portal. Obviously we talked

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00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: about Colorado, but man, you and c on defense went

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00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 2: and hit the portal hard this offseason and it's making

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Speaker 2: a legitimate difference. They had a sixty percent win expectancy

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00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: Miami did against North Carolina this game. And I'm a

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Speaker 2: big Tyler Van Dyke. I have eighteen share Tyler Van

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Speaker 2: Dimes and John Fantasy. Hey, you know, I'm here for

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Speaker 2: Tyler Van Dyke if Will Levis can get draft in

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Speaker 2: the second round because of his arm. I've seen Tyler

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Speaker 2: Van Dyke test passing windows a lot more effectively than

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Speaker 2: what I saw Will Levis do. So I like Tyler

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Speaker 2: Van Dyke. I am on Miami because of that. Clemson.

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Speaker 2: Just if you talk about you know, quarterbacks who have

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Speaker 2: lost luster in terms of NFL eyes, you know from

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five class, look no further.

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Speaker 4: Than a kid klu.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it hasn't not been an impressive job eighty

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Speaker 2: six In terms of passing performance for Clemson. They played

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00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: pretty well against Florida State that was probably it. That

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00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: was a legit toss up that game. But they're all defense,

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00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 2: and I think that Miami is good enough to move

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00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 2: the ball against them. I don't know if Clemson is

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00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: good enough to move the ball against Miami when they

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00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: need to.

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Speaker 4: So I'm leaning with the kids, all right.

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Speaker 1: Final up, Heer Thor. We got a couple Tuesday games

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Speaker 1: that popped up on the adjusted Thor line. People also

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Speaker 1: can make sure you're following Thor on the betting pros

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Speaker 1: apps so you could see when some of these bets

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Speaker 1: are going to be placed. But Thor quickly at the end.

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Speaker 1: Here give us those two Tuesday lines and what that

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Speaker 1: value is looking like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple Tuesdays special specials for you guys at

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00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 3: both home teams. Here, I'm showing line value on and

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00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 3: two that I've hit already today. Liberty hosting Middle Tennessee.

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00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 3: I was really surprised when this line dropped at my book.

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00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 3: I got Liberty minus thirteen and a half the line

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00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 3: right now live it toggled up to.

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Speaker 4: Fourteen, but you can still get fourteen.

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00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 3: My line on this is Liberty minus eighteen, and I

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00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 3: think that that is a fairer line. Liberty can run

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00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 3: all over Middle Tennessee's terrible defense. We've seen this in

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Speaker 3: Middle Tennessee's games. They've been playing on the weeknights whatever.

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Speaker 3: And then meanwhile you flip the field Middle Tennessee. All

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00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 3: they do is pass. They did you know that's the

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Speaker 3: offensive stock. Still it's just pass past pass, and the

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00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: Bodiatto kid, he makes mistakes and whatnot. Liberty their defensive strength.

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Speaker 3: They're really good with the past success rate, so that

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00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 3: is going to be a real problem for Middle Tennessee's

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00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 3: pass offense there and again, just objectively in a vacuum,

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Speaker 3: this line does not go far enough. So hit Liberty

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Speaker 3: on that one, especially with it fourteen or even lower

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00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 3: than that. And then the other one with a home

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00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 3: dog and you have to love that, particularly when it's

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Speaker 3: rich Rod like it is in this case, Western Kentucky

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00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 3: going to Jacksonville State line right now you can get

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00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 3: Jacksonville State plus seven. My line on that one is

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Speaker 3: Western Kentucky minus two point two. So I'm showing a

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00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 3: discrepancy of almost five points a line value for Jacksonville State.

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00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 3: So I also hit the fight in rich Rods today.

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00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 3: I think Jacksonville State is going to be able to

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00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,959
Speaker 3: run all over that Swiss cheese Western Kentucky defense, which

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00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 3: again we've seen Western Kentucky on these week night games.

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00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 3: That defense stinks and everybody can you know, run on

1147
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 3: them and whatnot. They give up yards left and right.

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00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 3: Jacksonville State's defense is pretty salty, and we've seen that

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00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 3: as well. Jacksonville State's going to do the tempo tempo

1150
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 3: tempo thing. I think that game is closer to a

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00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 3: coin flip than this line is indicating to the market.

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00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 4: So hit Jacksonville State and hit Liberty all right.

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00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: For Ton, you brought bust Us through. You've got four

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00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: just quick line movements that people need to pay attention to.

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00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: What did you what did you spot?

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00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 2: Baylor at Cincinnati. This opened at minus three and a

1158
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 2: half forty seven and a half on the total, that

1159
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 2: has since gone in different directions, gone down to minus

1160
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 2: one and a half with Cincinnati favored, and then has

1161
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 2: bumped up to fifty one and a half on the total. Obviously,

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00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: the Dave Randa Baylor Bears, this is not the Baylor

1163
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 2: Bear defense that we have seen in the past. Isn't

1164
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 2: the offense either, but definitely not the defense. And then

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00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: on the other side, meant another game Memphis at UAB.

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00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 2: This opened at plus seven and a half that UAB

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00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 2: was getting. It has actually gone down towards UAB plus

1168
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: four and a half, so they've actually, you know, it

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00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: has come closer by a full field goal. UTSA at

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00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 2: Florida Atlantic opened at sixty two and a half on

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00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: the total is now down to fifty eight and a

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Speaker 2: half and that is a real indictment on this UTSA team.

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00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 2: Jeff Trailer lost their guru offensive coordinator, Willie Stein has

1174
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: really had a drastic effect on this offense. Is not

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00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: the UTSA of last year. And then finally you have

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00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 2: Texas Tech at BYU. That game opened up at a

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00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 2: fifty six and a half total. It is now down

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00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 2: to fifty one and a half. Anybody who watched that

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00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: BYU TCU game of from Saturday. BYU could do nothing

1180
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: against a very passive TCU defense. I just think they

1181
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: are not ready for prime time at this point. They

1182
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 2: needed to restock the cuver if they're gonna be able

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00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 2: to compete week in and week out in the Big twelve.

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00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: This is a team the BYU is used to playing,

1185
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: you know, maybe five Power five teams all ye year.

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00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 2: You know they usually load up that G five schedule.

1187
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: Not anymore. This is a bad spot for them. I

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00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 2: like Texas tep.

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Speaker 1: Betting pros go over there.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm sorry, but before you you start the scared

1191
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 4: what are we doing? I'm sorry. I promise.

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00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 3: I promised the folks before the end of the show

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00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 3: I would have breaking news, and I do. I have

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00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 3: breaking news the Iowa Minnesota game. Uh as to the

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00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 3: the status of Darius and Cody Lindenberg. So the star

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00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 3: running back for Minnesota is going to play. He will

1197
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 3: be back for that game. And then also the middle

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00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 3: linebacker for Minnesota who was All Big Ten last year,

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00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 3: he has not played in one game this year. He

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00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 3: was a surprise and active in the first game, and

1201
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 3: then he hasn't played for one game this year. He

1202
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 3: will be making a season debut against Iowa in that game,

1203
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 3: so something for people to keep an eye on. Minnesota

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00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 3: will be healthier in that game going to Kinnick then

1205
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 3: they've been all season.

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Speaker 4: So I just thought i'd toss that up.

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Speaker 1: That's beautiful stuff. That's the betting pros right here. We

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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