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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to Work in Progress. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to this week's very special episode of Work in Progress.

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Speaker 1: My fellow whips Martis, who are politically engaged, who love

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Speaker 1: their communities, who love their families, who love the idea

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Speaker 1: of progress. Today we have perhaps one of the best

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Speaker 1: guests we've ever had, a progressive in every sense of

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Speaker 1: the word, a woman who has made history more times

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Speaker 1: over than I can bear to count, and someone who

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Speaker 1: I have looked up to for my entire life. Today

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Speaker 1: we are joined by Nancy Pelosi. You guys, she's here.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe it. We are going to talk about

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Speaker 1: her political career. Will probably only be able to touch

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Speaker 1: a few points because there's more than we could squeeze

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Speaker 1: into an hour, but I can't wait to ask her

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Speaker 1: questions about how she got started. Some of you might

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Speaker 1: not know that Nancy actually began as a volunteer in

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party in the nineteen sixties, and then if

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Speaker 1: you fast forward to nineteen eighty seven, when she was

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Speaker 1: first elected to Congress, she was forty seven years old,

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Speaker 1: a mother of five, and managed to steadily rise through

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Speaker 1: the ranks of the House Democratic Caucus to be elected

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Speaker 1: the House Minority Whip in two thousand and one, then

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Speaker 1: became the first woman to hold each of those positions

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Speaker 1: in either Chamber of Congress. Nancy Pelosi is the chief

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Speaker 1: architect of some of our generation's most defining legislation under

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Speaker 1: two Democratic administrations, including the Affordable Care Act and the

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Speaker 1: American Rescue Plan. She led the House Democrats for twenty years,

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Speaker 1: even having served as the House Democratic Whip. I was

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Speaker 1: fortunate enough to help host a farewell to Nancy Pelosi

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three when she announced that she would

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Speaker 1: not re seek her position as Speaker to make way

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Speaker 1: for Hakim Jeffrey. She is truly such a team player

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Speaker 1: in that she always wants to advance democracy for all,

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Speaker 1: and that night I got to watch her in a

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Speaker 1: room full of reproductive rights advocates, election volunteers, officials from

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Speaker 1: various organizations, and even the Second Gentleman, And it was

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Speaker 1: woman who has been such a transformational leader in our

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Speaker 1: with this intergenerational group of people that she has affected

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Speaker 1: for the better. I am just beside myself. Today we

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Speaker 1: are going to talk to Nancy about everything, all the things,

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Speaker 1: and even her newest book, The Art of Power, my

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Speaker 1: story as America's first woman Speaker of the House. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to stop talking so you guys can hear

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Speaker 1: from Nancy. Let's get into it all right. Here we are, here,

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Speaker 1: we are. It's so so lovely to see you. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for coming to join us today.

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Speaker 2: My pleasure to me, it was wonderful to see you

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Speaker 2: at the convention.

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Speaker 3: Exciting, huh, it really was.

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Speaker 1: It just made my absolute day to see you there,

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Speaker 1: and no less to see you there while we were

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Speaker 1: all joyfully singing along to Brandy Carlisle.

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Speaker 3: She wonderful. I love her.

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Speaker 1: She's so amazing that the DNC for me, was such

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Speaker 1: a reminder that because policy is personal, you actually can

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Speaker 1: feel joyful when you advocate for a better future. And

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Speaker 1: I missed that feeling. How did it feel for you?

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Speaker 1: How did this DNC in particular feel for you?

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Speaker 2: Well, this Democratic National Convention was really a joy to

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Speaker 2: behold because it was so hopeful. I know they were

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Speaker 2: using the word joy, the joy will celebrate when we

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Speaker 3: That is what we have to do.

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Speaker 2: And I think that the joy was combined with a

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Speaker 2: channeling that exuberance into mobilization at the grassroots level, messaging

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Speaker 1: And it's really such a complex task to when I

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Speaker 1: as a civilian, granted, a total policy nerd who loves

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Speaker 1: your world, but when I examine from the outside what

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Speaker 1: you all do as lawmakers, I really think about the

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Speaker 1: complexity of all the dialectics you're asked to hold. At

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Speaker 1: You have to make it all work inside of a budget.

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Speaker 1: And for me, as I sit here so excited to

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Speaker 1: the amount of history to get us here that you,

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Speaker 1: I haven't had the actual privilege of being one of

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Speaker 1: your technical constituents, but as a Californian, I always feel

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Speaker 1: like you're you know, you're not my mom, but you're

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Speaker 1: like my auntie in politics. And the thirty seven years

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Speaker 1: much change, and I want to go back before we

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Speaker 1: talk about, you know, the intricacies of this moment, because

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Speaker 1: something I'm not sure sure everyone knows but needs to know,

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Speaker 1: is that your career actually began in the nineteen sixties

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Speaker 1: as a volunteer for the Democratic Party. You talk a

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Speaker 1: lot about how you went from being a housewife to

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Speaker 1: the Speaker of the House. What was it like as

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Speaker 1: a mom in the sixties. What was the calling that

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Speaker 1: made you say, you know, I want to get involved,

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Speaker 2: First of all, let me just thank you for Sophia

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Speaker 2: for understanding what it takes to pass a wall. You know,

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Speaker 2: you passed the wall, pass the hasse passed the Senate,

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Speaker 2: go to the Prince. It's so complicated, and I really

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Speaker 2: just was so enjoying how you recognize the complexity to

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Speaker 3: Word of it all.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, And that really goes right to the members

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Speaker 2: and their knowledge, their strategy, their courage. Courage is the

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Speaker 2: important word here because for me representing San Francisco, many

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Speaker 2: of these votes are very easy. For them not so,

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Speaker 2: and because also the Republican misrepresentations in their districts make

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Speaker 2: it even more challenge. They don't carry much weight in

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Speaker 2: my district. So thank you for recognizing what it takes

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Speaker 2: and what its purpose is. The in the sixties, I

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Speaker 2: was having babies. I had four babies in like four

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Speaker 2: years in the sixties. My husband and I've had five

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Speaker 2: I had four of these babies in Manhattan. Four of

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Speaker 2: only pushing strollers and handing out leaflets or going door

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Speaker 2: They didn't allow pamphleting, you know, for campaigns, but if

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Speaker 2: then you could double duty. So that was really very,

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Speaker 2: very basic. It wasn't until I was in California and

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Speaker 2: my children were in school all day that I thought, no,

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Speaker 2: five children six years and seven days. So that's really

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Speaker 2: when some other of five, seeing that one in five

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Speaker 2: children in America were going to sleep hungry at night,

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Speaker 2: living in poverty was just my why I went from

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Speaker 2: but it stemmed from my being born into a political family.

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Speaker 2: My father was in Congress when I was born. He

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Speaker 2: was mayor of Baltimore when I was in first grade,

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Speaker 2: and he was mayor of Baltimore when I was in

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Speaker 2: freshman year in college. So that's the life I led,

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Speaker 2: and then my brother would become mayor of Baltimore. So

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Speaker 2: I was never interested in running for office. I was

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Speaker 1: I almost I wonder too, the you know, the environment

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Speaker 1: of steeped in it. You know, the water a tea

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Speaker 1: I think about how around your table you must have

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Speaker 1: just had that kind of privilege of exposure to exactly

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Speaker 1: the kind of complex thought we're talking about. You know,

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Speaker 1: how do you solve a problem for a community, How

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Speaker 1: do you get a budget pass that works? How do

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Speaker 1: we get food into the hands of hungry children and families,

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Speaker 1: and how do you make sure people have access to healthcare?

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Speaker 1: When you kind of came into your own knowing that

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Speaker 1: you were going to have a political future, did you go, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess this was kind of inevitable given the dinner

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Speaker 2: Well, I was a little girl, and I was really

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Speaker 2: a fifties teenager Elvis Presley, rock around the cock, the

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Speaker 3: Even then, what do you even.

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Speaker 2: Well, even then, though we didn't, we had friendships across

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Speaker 3: It wasn't that way.

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Speaker 2: My friends that I went out with and stuff were

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Speaker 2: and some friends for a long time after that. But no,

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Speaker 2: what I did know was that we were a Catholic

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Speaker 3: So we were.

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Speaker 2: Deeply Catholic, pro out of our Italian American heritage, fiercely

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Speaker 3: And so it was more of.

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Speaker 2: Broader value space than it was specifically. And actually when

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Speaker 2: in those days, the mayor always went out at night

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Speaker 2: and spoke at events in black tie.

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Speaker 3: In black tie wow.

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Speaker 2: So we come home, have dinner with us, put on

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Speaker 2: It was a different world about the formality of politics

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Speaker 1: That's so interesting. So when you moved to California and

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Speaker 1: you know, you began, as you said, you're volunteer work.

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Speaker 1: I love that it started with figuring out how to

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Speaker 1: solving that I think women are particularly adept at. You're like, well,

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Speaker 1: we're just going to do this during Halloween. Men, here

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Speaker 1: we go make sure people know what's accessible to them.

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Speaker 1: When you fast forward from that time, I look at

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Speaker 1: the scope of your career and think about the things

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Speaker 1: you've been so integral to creating in our country. You know,

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Speaker 1: you really have been an architect of generation defining legislation,

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Speaker 1: whether it was the Affordable Care Act and all of

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Speaker 1: the folks you know, even like me born with asthma,

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Speaker 1: I would have been unensurable perhaps had it not been

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Speaker 1: for the work that you did all the way through

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Speaker 1: to the American Rescue Plan to not only rescue the nation,

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Speaker 1: that we actually stabilized the global economy. What has it

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Speaker 1: felt like for you to begin to learn, as we

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's really beautiful. And now for our sponsors. And

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Speaker 1: That can be so difficult. Though the patients and the pragmatism,

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Speaker 1: believe to be the ethos of your book. You don't

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Speaker 2: Well, I would Well, I love hearing your motivation both

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Speaker 3: So people get confused and they say, well, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, and certainly one of the things that I've

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, winning the election is essential to it all.

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Speaker 2: that's John Lewis language. We're going to stop big dark

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Speaker 2: money from suffocating the airwaves big dark money by making

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Speaker 2: them disclosed so that people know they have the right

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Speaker 2: to give. Because the court, in my view, foolishly and

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Speaker 2: wrongly decided that corporations were people and they could give

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Speaker 2: as much money as they want. Well, people can't, but

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Speaker 2: corporations can.

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Speaker 1: And that's the Citizens United decision, right.

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Speaker 2: The Citizens United decision. But it's very hard as a

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Speaker 2: constitutional change that is required, and so people say, well,

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Speaker 2: it's too hard to change the causes, but it isn't

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Speaker 2: too hard to mobilize, to mobilize to say to people,

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Speaker 2: this is why we have to address this with disclosure

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Speaker 2: and rest.

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Speaker 3: That's the only thing the court allowed us.

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Speaker 2: It also doesn't have a partisan redistricting gets rid of

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Speaker 2: that because all the things that people think that their

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Speaker 2: voice is deterred in some way, silenced or lessened. And

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Speaker 2: so we're saying this is for the people, we must

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Speaker 2: pass this law to democratize democracy, to make it be

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Speaker 2: what it's supposed to be, a free and fair election,

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Speaker 2: not dominated by big dark money or predicated on redistricting

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Speaker 2: that is unfair and the rest. So that would make

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Speaker 2: the biggest difference. In addition to that, when we win

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Speaker 2: the elect to your point of should we win, yes, win,

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Speaker 2: we have to change the filibuster law in the United

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Speaker 2: States Senate. It's ridiculous that it requires sixty votes to

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Speaker 2: bring a bill to the floor. We must change that

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Speaker 2: because that takes us to your next point policy. If

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Speaker 2: we could, if we win votes in the Senate, change

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Speaker 2: the filibuster law, just think right away. We could pass

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Speaker 2: and try and really wade into the law. We can

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Speaker 2: have background checks on guns. We can have an immigration

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Speaker 2: in affair and immigration by partisan immigration bill. We can

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Speaker 2: stop gun violence said gun violence already, Equality Act for

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Speaker 2: LGBTQ community to be treated with equality and all that.

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Speaker 2: So so many of those pieces of legislation could pass

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Speaker 2: with fifty one votes rather than sixty and that's majority rule.

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Speaker 2: So this is within sight and it is within distance.

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Speaker 2: All we have to do is win the election. When

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Speaker 2: the White House, when the Senate hold the Senate is

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Speaker 2: hold the Senate and then take back the House. And

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Speaker 2: we can do this for the people because they have

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Speaker 2: cynicism about why should I even vote? What difference will

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Speaker 2: it make? All the difference in the world. Vote as

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Speaker 2: if your life depends on it, because it really does,

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Speaker 2: whether it's the air you breathe, or you know, what

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Speaker 2: happens to you, in the size and timing of your

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Speaker 2: family and the rest.

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Speaker 1: And now a word from our sponsors that I really

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Speaker 1: enjoy and I think you will too. I really do

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Speaker 1: want to echo because there will be people who say,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like when your mom tells you you're

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Speaker 1: pretty and you go you have to say that you're

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Speaker 1: my mom. There will be people who will hear you

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Speaker 1: talk about how consequential the vote is and say, well,

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Speaker 1: of course you think it's consequential. You know, you're Congresswoman Pelosi,

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Speaker 1: You're the Speaker of the House. That's your world. But

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Speaker 1: as a sort of civilian who has a calling of

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Speaker 1: one foot in this world and one foot in my

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Speaker 1: day job, I want to say to our listeners, you

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Speaker 1: know it is that important because we've seen the ramifications

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Speaker 1: of losing so narrowly in twenty sixteen. I see. I

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Speaker 1: read reports of women who've lost their fallopian tubes and

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Speaker 1: their future as the moms they want to be because

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Speaker 1: a doctor would not end an ectopic pregnancy that risked

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Speaker 1: her life. Women have died of sepsis. We have seen

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Speaker 1: families separated permanently at the border by the Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: We have seen absolute horror, you know, and corruption take

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Speaker 1: over our court. And then you see the flip side.

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Speaker 1: You see the Biden Harris administration, our party passing a

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Speaker 1: thirty five dollars cap on insulin. I read the story

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Speaker 1: of a young man who was at the convention with us.

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Speaker 1: He's in college, and he said, you know, I got

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Speaker 1: active because I have diabetes and so does my mom.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that I know we'll be able to

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Speaker 1: afford our medication forever, and that every Republican voted against that,

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Speaker 1: that's what got me inspired to be here. And I thought,

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Speaker 1: look at you, you sweet twenty year old boy, come

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Speaker 1: with us like we're ready to go. And these aren't

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Speaker 1: arguments about policy. These are arguments about, as you said,

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Speaker 1: democracy for all. You know, there are enough rights to

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Speaker 1: go around for everyone. And when you bring up something

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Speaker 1: like the Equality Act and thank you. Folks will say, well,

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Speaker 1: there's laws you can't put underpay women, or you have

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Speaker 1: to treat people equally. That's what the Supreme Court said.

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Speaker 1: People don't realize that that's not actually true, that it

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Speaker 1: took us thirty eight years to ratify the er, and

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Speaker 1: then in Congress we didn't control, said it had taken

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Speaker 1: too long, and they didn't care to write it into

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Speaker 1: the Constitution. So that affects the fifty one percent of

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Speaker 1: us that are women in the world. They don't realize

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Speaker 1: that if my partner and I, for example, drove from

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Speaker 1: New York to come visit you say, in San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: depending on what state we were in the car and together,

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Speaker 1: we would have different civil rights. That is terrifying as

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Speaker 1: an American. And so we really are here friends at home,

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Speaker 1: advocating to make sure, Yes, you can live the way

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Speaker 1: you want to live. You can believe what you want

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Speaker 1: to believe. You can operate out of faith or science

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Speaker 1: or whatever is your highest calling. But what you cannot

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Speaker 1: do is legislate cruelty or inequity on others based on

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Speaker 1: your personal belief. The law must be separate, and it

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Speaker 1: must be it must be the highest and greatest good

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Speaker 1: for us.

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Speaker 3: So that's the.

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Speaker 1: Big policy thing. And here I am soapboxing for anyone

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Speaker 1: at home who says I'm not political, Please be political,

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Speaker 1: please come join us. But to get back to the personal,

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Speaker 1: as you said, when you look back at these last

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Speaker 1: thirty seven years, do you have like a greatest hits

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Speaker 1: list for Nancy Pelosi? Is there is there an album

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Speaker 1: of things that you look at and go, God, those

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Speaker 1: five things we got done or that law in that year?

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Speaker 1: What comes to mind immediately for you as your pride

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Speaker 1: and joy as a legislator.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for your kind words, but

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Speaker 2: also for your activism. And you're putting into personal terms

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Speaker 2: what it means to have different respects for people's rights

554
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Speaker 2: around the country, and people don't realize that they don't.

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Speaker 2: I went to Congress. Well, so I'll just start with

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Speaker 2: a you went there first day. I was an especial

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Speaker 2: election because the congresswoman's Sela Burton had passed away and

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Speaker 2: wanted me to run in a seat. So I did

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Speaker 2: and I won, which wasn't a foregone conclusion. But nonetheless,

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Speaker 2: when I was there, the members were saying to me,

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Speaker 2: when you get sworn in, don't say anything, because nobody

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Speaker 2: wants to hear from a new.

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Speaker 3: Member of Congress. So I said, oh god, that's okay

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Speaker 3: with me.

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Speaker 2: So it just when the speaker swears you in, you

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Speaker 2: just say yes, I support and defend the Constitution. Then

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Speaker 2: the speaker said to me, does the gentle lady from

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Speaker 2: California wish to address the house? That's how they talked, gentlely.

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Speaker 2: So of course I'm going to address that. So I

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Speaker 2: get up there, and these people are like, be sure.

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Speaker 3: Be sure, just be sure.

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Speaker 2: And so I got up very briefly said I'm here.

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Speaker 2: I thank my parents were there, my father on the

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Speaker 2: floor of the house because he had been a former member,

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Speaker 2: he could be on the floor of the house.

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Speaker 3: I found.

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Speaker 2: I thank my constituents. And then I said, I told

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Speaker 2: my constituents that when I came here, I would tell

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Speaker 2: you that SLA sent me and I came to fight

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Speaker 2: against HIV and AIDS.

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Speaker 3: Boom.

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Speaker 2: That's the end. Now it took like a minute. I

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Speaker 2: even took longer to say some other thing.

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Speaker 3: Just look like a minute.

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Speaker 2: So I come down, thinking that was as short as

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Speaker 2: it could be. Oh long, faces said, what's the matter

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Speaker 2: with you? Why would you tell people that the first

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Speaker 2: the first thing they know about you is you came

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Speaker 2: here to fight against HIV and AIDS. I said it

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Speaker 2: because I did. I did when we were this was

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Speaker 2: eighty seven. We were in the going to two funerals

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Speaker 2: a day, much less than a week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I did.

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Speaker 2: But see, in San Francisco, we knew about prevention, we

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Speaker 2: knew about care, we knew about research for cure, all

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Speaker 2: that stuff, but I didn't about discrimination. And just to

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Speaker 2: see that now, not that they were discriminating, they just

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Speaker 2: thought the others would. And so they knew what the

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Speaker 2: backlash it would be.

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Speaker 3: So we bought and fought.

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Speaker 2: We got the Mummy, and the AIDS issue was very

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Speaker 2: big for me in Congress, and to see the success

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Speaker 2: and we did rhyme white care and Rewaxmen from California

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Speaker 2: was very important and all that. But it contained our

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Speaker 2: San Francisco, community based, community based care, community based research,

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Speaker 2: community based prevention. We had some of the greatest intellectual

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Speaker 2: resources here in San Francisco and then and so that

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Speaker 2: became a thing so throughout. So another another part of

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Speaker 2: that in terms of discrimination was to end to repeal

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Speaker 2: don't ask, don't tell. Of course, the biggest issue for

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Speaker 2: me was the passing of the Affordable CARECT But in

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Speaker 2: terms of continuation of legislation, So the last bill that

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Speaker 2: I signed and rolled as a speaker, one of the

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Speaker 2: last bills when I was ending my speakership the first

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Speaker 2: time the first two terms ending them, was the repeal

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Speaker 2: of Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Now, this is an example

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Speaker 2: of the kaleidoscope in the rest. We finally got the

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Speaker 2: votes in order to pass an amendment to repeal Don't Ask,

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Speaker 2: Don't Tell.

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Speaker 3: It was a triumph. It was such a big job.

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Speaker 2: Now this is on the National Defense Authorization Bill. It's

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Speaker 2: a defense bill, the defense bill.

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Speaker 1: So I go.

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Speaker 2: The members are so jubilant, and I said, it's so

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Speaker 2: exciting as we made history today. And I said, yes,

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Speaker 2: we made history today, and you're going to make history twice.

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Speaker 2: Why do you say that, I said, well, you had

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Speaker 2: voted for the amendment and that passed. But in order

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Speaker 2: for the amendment to prevail, the bill has to pass.

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Speaker 2: So you're going to vote for the first time, make

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Speaker 2: history voting for a defense bill. No, you can't ask

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Speaker 2: us to do that. You cannot ask us to do that.

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Speaker 2: I said, you don't have an amendment unless you have

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Speaker 2: a bill. You're going to have to vote for the

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Speaker 2: defense bill. No, don't ask us, we won't do it

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Speaker 2: this or that. The Republicans always vote for the defense bill.

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Speaker 2: They come here to do two things, cut taxes for

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Speaker 2: the rich and vote for the defense bill. They're going

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Speaker 2: to vote for it. I said, you need to vote

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Speaker 2: for the What makes you say that, I said, I'm

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Speaker 2: a speaker. I know what's going on here. I can

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Speaker 2: see it in their eyes. They ain't going to vote

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Speaker 2: for the defense bill. Oh, this is too much to ask.

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Speaker 2: We all have plaques and prophies and all being one

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Speaker 2: against the Defense bill, said do me a favor. Go

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Speaker 2: to the back of the room and just wait and

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Speaker 2: watch and see what happens. So go to the back

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Speaker 2: of the room. Nine Republicans voted for the defense bill,

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Speaker 2: which means like one hundred and eighty or some of

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Speaker 2: them voted against it because of that don't ask, don't

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Speaker 2: tell repeal and it was heartbreaking. Nine voted for it.

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Speaker 2: So right down the aisle, Barney Frank, Barbara Lee, Dennis Percinage,

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Speaker 2: John Lewis, and Eshu you name it. The whole one

654
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Speaker 2: hundred percent crowd going down to vote for the Defense film. Congratulations,

655
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: you made history twice today. But they did something they

656
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: didn't think they would have to do. We had to

657
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: do the machinations. Barney Frank was very instrumental in doing

658
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: that with the Senate so that it became law.

659
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Speaker 3: Harry Reid was very helpful.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's amazing. I had the loveliest moment with Senator

661
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: Schumer at the DNC. He came to offer some very

662
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: kind words about my life, not even work, and told

663
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 1: me about how he became so pro equality and wanted

664
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Speaker 1: to fight for laws like the ones you're talking about

665
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: because of his friendship with Barney Frank, and how you know,

666
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: seeing when he came out, his whole life got better

667
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: and everything changed, and he said, you know, I got

668
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: to fight alongside my friend. And all these years later,

669
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Speaker 1: when my daughter told me she'd fallen in love with

670
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Speaker 1: this wonderful woman, I realized that my friends had made

671
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Speaker 1: me a better father. Nice, beautiful makes me want to sob.

672
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: Alison, his beautiful daughter, Alison is when I.

673
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: Think about you all fighting together, that I believe is

674
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: the beauty of the ethos of a party rooted in equity.

675
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: Because your fight is not John Lewis's fight, but you

676
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: know what it's like to be discriminated against as a woman,

677
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: and he can talk to you about what it's like

678
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: to be discriminated against as a black man. And Senator

679
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: Schumer learned what Barney Frank was going through as a

680
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 1: gay man. And I start to think about how when

681
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: you say we all come together with our ideals and

682
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: our diversity is our strength, what it means is in

683
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: our successes and our failures, in our hardships. The more

684
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: of us there are in the room making decisions, the

685
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: more people can say, hey, don't forget this. This could

686
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: be a spot where you might not know to shine

687
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: a light if you didn't know there was darkness there.

688
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: We can solve for more people with diversity of thoughts

689
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: and experience, and it when you win, I win. And

690
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: when John Lewis was winning, we were all winning. I

691
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: guess I'm curious because you you've been such a part

692
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: of so many of these moments of history. And when

693
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Speaker 1: we talk about John Lewis, God rest his soul, are

694
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: there things about him, or those early days, or even

695
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: about you that you think people maybe don't know but

696
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: should And it could be I don't know your favorite

697
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: coffee order, or when you guys really got into it

698
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: over how to get something across the line like you

699
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: did with Donnas. Don't tell you know. Are there things

700
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: we don't know that you want to make sure we do.

701
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: We mentioned Barney is that's just important way when we

702
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: were passing trying to pass the hate crime spill, we

703
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: wanted to be all inclusive. Now this was in the

704
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 2: first term, so this is like.

705
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Speaker 3: Years ago.

706
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: It was seven eight in that period of time, and

707
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: Barney told his personal story and that meant a lot

708
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: to the members. It was very cheerful for us, but

709
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 2: its press Risiamble. In addition, because inside mobiles maneuvering is

710
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: very important. The outside mobilization, which is essential to any success,

711
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: was led by Matthew Shepherd's mother. She came with her husband.

712
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 2: She brought with her, Uh, the sheriff from the county.

713
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was so so sad. And his

714
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: sheriff said, I'm the sheriff that you have worried about

715
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: after what I saw that happened to Matthew Shepherd, I'm

716
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: going around campaigning for this hate crimes bill. And she

717
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: was wonderful, but we couldn't pass it. It was not passing,

718
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: and so uh, they came to me and said, if

719
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: you take it out trands, it was inclusive. If you

720
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: take out trends, you can pass it in a minute.

721
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 2: And I said back to them, if we take our trands,

722
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: we ain't passing it in a hundred years because we're

723
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: not even bringing it up. It's coming in together and

724
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: that's the way it is, and that's the way we

725
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: passed it. But they would, you have to always try

726
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 2: to while you want to compromise or something, you cannot

727
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: diminish the strength of why you were there. That they

728
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: would probably the group that needed the most hate crimes legislation,

729
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: And so that was another time. So we did hate

730
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: crimes and then we did repeal don'nas don't tell. And

731
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Speaker 2: then we did marriage equality. Even though the court did it,

732
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 2: we wanted to legislate it so that it is in

733
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Speaker 2: the in the law. And of course all of the

734
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Speaker 2: work on HIV AIDS, but it started with.

735
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Speaker 3: That.

736
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Speaker 2: Now the finished business is the Equality Act. It takes

737
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 2: me to John Lewis the Equality Act.

738
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Speaker 3: In order for the.

739
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: Equality Act pass, we had to break up, open up

740
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: the Civil Rights Bill and inject the Equality Act in there.

741
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: The Black Caucus very.

742
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: Proprietary about the Civil Rights Act because of some of

743
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 2: the strange people that were roaming the halls of Congress

744
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: at that time as members. Well what they would try

745
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 2: to do because with their twenty twenty five for example,

746
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: forget all these things that are in there. But in

747
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 2: any event, the process that we had to go through

748
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: is to make sure that we were not menacing the

749
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: Black Caucus and what we were trying to do to

750
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Speaker 2: expand the rights there. Our champion became John Lewis again.

751
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: Oh and it became he once again. He said, we

752
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 2: are long overdue in doing this, and I'm going to

753
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: be a sponsor of this bill. So we went to

754
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: the press conference, took the lead in announcing this, and

755
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: it was a big deal because the Black Caucus was

756
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 2: we don't want it. We're all for that, but why

757
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: do we have to open up the bill to do it.

758
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: John Lewis just said, we're long overdue, We're going to

759
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,479
Speaker 2: do that, and he led the way. Bless his heart,

760
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 2: he was incredible.

761
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Speaker 1: I mean, what a man was was the fear I

762
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: just want to make sure I understand, was the fear

763
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: in opening up the Civil Rights bill that opening it

764
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: up to add more inclusion and protection for other people

765
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Speaker 1: might actually put the bill itself at risk.

766
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Speaker 2: Well, it might be they would come along with something,

767
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: start a fought it about why this If you read

768
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five.

769
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Speaker 1: So many of the Project twenty twenty five.

770
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Speaker 2: Project twenty twenty five, If you read that many of

771
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: the protections that we have for people, bye bye. That's

772
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 2: a terrible vicious document. And that's why what's his name

773
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 2: as trying to distance himself. It's his people who vote it.

774
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: It's their document and the rest. But again, John lewis

775
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: our hero and wonderful.

776
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 3: He also walked.

777
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: With me when we were going to pass the bill

778
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 2: and he got spat upon.

779
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 3: People screamed at us.

780
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: As we were walking from the office building to the Capitol.

781
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 2: We had the gavel that had been used to gabble

782
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 2: in medicare by John Dingle's father, and he had that gavel,

783
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: and then and we were going and John said that

784
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: that day, the viciousness of the people who were screaming

785
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: at us for passing this bill spat upon and he

786
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 2: said he it was he hadn't seen anything like that

787
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: since Thoma.

788
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: In nineteen sixties.

789
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: Of them Sea.

790
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: He said it was just a horrible and John Lewis,

791
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: I mean, they were horrible to me, as you can imagine,

792
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 2: but they always are. But John Lewis is reverential figure

793
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: to say, I hadn't seen anything like that since the sixties.

794
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting to me when you bring that up,

795
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: what John Lewis went through, the work he did with

796
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: doctor King and LBJ in getting the Civil Rights Act

797
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: passed and getting the Voting Rights Act passed. I was

798
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: so lucky on Tuesday to be at the White House

799
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: in Room one eighty and get to look at some

800
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 1: of those original photographs, and I was just so moved

801
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: thinking about these lifetimes of advocacy. And I know the

802
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: pushback he received as a black man building a more

803
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: equal America. I certainly know the pushback you receive as

804
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: a woman striving to build a more equal America. People

805
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: hate political opinionated women. I deal with it on the

806
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: internet every day. I'm very grateful to your persistence, and

807
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: I guess I'm curious when you look out at the

808
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: landscape you know, both all of the history you've been

809
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: a part of and in the work you're continuing to do.

810
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: Is part of your hope with the book because it's

811
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: so good. I mean, my goodness, I've been asking you

812
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: all these policy questions. We've barely even touched on it,

813
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: and your time is almost up. The book is just

814
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,479
Speaker 1: so great. But obviously our audience will go and read it.

815
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: Was the hope that you could despite what people have

816
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: seen out in the world. What happened to you on

817
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: January sixth, You know this new footage of that your

818
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: daughter took. When you're asking questions about where's the National

819
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: Guard and trying to safeguard democracy. You know what horrifically

820
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: happened to your family in twenty twenty two when your

821
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: husband was attacked. There's a lot that could keep motivated

822
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: people out when they see what you risk. So is

823
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: the goal of the book also to remind people that, yes,

824
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: there is a risk, but there is so much reward,

825
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: and here is perhaps how you can exercise subtle and

826
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: inclusive power to create that reward for yourself and the

827
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: world around you. Is that what you hope to leave

828
00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: the readers with.

829
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: Well, I hope so, because there's nothing more wholesome for

830
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: the political or governmental process than the increased participation of women.

831
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: I firmly believe that when I went to Congress there

832
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: were twenty three women, twelve Democrats, eleven Republicans. We made

833
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: a decision, some of us who I came from the

834
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: political arena, from being chair of the California Democratic Party,

835
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: that we were going to increase that number. We now

836
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: have ninety four Democratic women versus twelve. They have thirty

837
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 2: something versus eleven. But we still want more. But it's

838
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: really very essential. It doesn't mean women are better than men.

839
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: It just means you need the diversity at the table.

840
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: You need the diversity at the table. And that diversity

841
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 2: goes beyond male female. It's about ethnicity and gender identity

842
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 2: and the rest of that.

843
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: We need more at the table.

844
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 2: So what I was hoping to say to people is

845
00:48:55,719 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 2: quoting a Republican President, Teddy, when he talked about the

846
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: the Arena speech, which is one of the great speeches.

847
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 2: Everybody should read it and know it. He said, you're

848
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 2: not a spectator anymore. It says that you're in the arena.

849
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: And I say to the women who say to me, well,

850
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: I'd like to be in the arena, but I can't

851
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,959
Speaker 2: handle the abuse that you take. See, I didn't care.

852
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: You know, I just didn't care. I was just there

853
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: for the children. I didn't care what they said about me.

854
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: I wasn't seeking higher office. I didn't want an appointment

855
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 2: to this or that. I just wanted to work in

856
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: the house to get the job done.

857
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 3: I said, no, but you go in the arena. You

858
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 3: have to be ready to.

859
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: Take a punch, and you have to be ready to

860
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: throw a punch for the children, for the children, and

861
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: it's worth it if you know your why. My why

862
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 2: was for the children. So I didn't care what they

863
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: said was always about that and what the legislation would do,

864
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: or what certain people were they a resource for their

865
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 2: children or not, because the children are everything. It's their health,

866
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 2: their education, the economy, security of their families, those clean,

867
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Speaker 2: safe neighborhoods where they can thrive, including safety from gun violence,

868
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Speaker 2: a world to peace in which they could survive. Everything

869
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Speaker 2: is about the children. It's all about the vision of

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Speaker 2: our founders, about our democracy, the sacrifice of our men

871
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Speaker 2: and women in uniform to protect our freedoms and our country,

872
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: and the aspirations of our children. They all come together,

873
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: and the election. All of it is at risk. All

874
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Speaker 2: of it is at risk.

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Speaker 1: That's a beautiful way to look at it. And now

876
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Speaker 1: a word from our wonderful sponsors. Something that I've thought

877
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Speaker 1: a lot about because you said something so kind to

878
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Speaker 1: me when I was in a panic about the fascist

879
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: takeover of our White House in twenty sixteen, and I

880
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: saw you at the time, one hundred of it in

881
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Speaker 1: New York, and you grabbed me by the hand and

882
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: I said, Nancy, going to do and you said, sweetheart,

883
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: everything will be better when you're a president, and iked it.

884
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: I joked at your farewell in DC with all the

885
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: reproductive rights groups, I said, I bet you say that

886
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: to all the girls you want to encourage us all

887
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Speaker 1: to run for office. But I do think so much

888
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 1: about the fact that you first were elected to Congress

889
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: at forty seven. You were a mom of five. You know,

890
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm now forty two. People ask me, are you going

891
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: to run? I don't have an answer. I don't know.

892
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: I know I want to dedicate my life to our community.

893
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: But I guess I would ask you, what is your

894
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: advice for someone who worries maybe it's too late, or

895
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know enough for women out there who

896
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: wonder if they could do what you've done, and maybe

897
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 1: don't know that you were forty seven when you started.

898
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Speaker 1: Do you have any advice for us?

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Speaker 2: Well, I would say this, Know your power. That's a

900
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: title of my first book, Know your power. Know the

901
00:51:55,640 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 2: power of you. You have something unique and authentic to

902
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: bring to the table, no matter what that is, whether

903
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 2: it's your professional experience, your education, your upbringing, whatever it

904
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Speaker 2: is in my case, even being a mom of five

905
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 2: kids in six years and seven days. That just take

906
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Speaker 2: inventory of your motivation and your knowledge, and as I

907
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: say to them, know your why, Know why you want

908
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: to do this, Know what you're talking about. You don't

909
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 2: have to know everything. But if you have a subject,

910
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: whether it's climate, or whether it's education, or whether it's

911
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 2: justice or democracy, whatever it is, it's not going to

912
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: be confined to one issue. But whatever kind of is

913
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: your passion, know about it so that people respect your judgment.

914
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: You won't know it all because it changes. You want

915
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: to be current as you go along, and then know

916
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: your strategy about how you would bring people together. See

917
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 2: somebody else who shares your view and you want to

918
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: support her, she wants to support you, and this or

919
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 2: that again vision, knowledge and judgment strategy, But most important.

920
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 2: Show people what is in your heart, that empathy, that

921
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 2: concern for the community, That is your authenticity. Enough people

922
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 2: love sincerity, authenticity, they really especially young people. They can

923
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Speaker 2: tell real from not real.

924
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 3: Just like that.

925
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: But understand that was what you have to bring. But

926
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Speaker 2: what you offer is something so great a country needs

927
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Speaker 2: to have you at the table and hopefully at the

928
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 2: head of the table. The The thing I also say

929
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: to them is know your why again, know your power,

930
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: and be ready because you don't know when the opportunity.

931
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Speaker 2: I had no idea that I would ever run for

932
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: I didn't even have an interest in running for public

933
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 2: office none, zero, And then all of a sudden they

934
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: were like, you have to run.

935
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Speaker 3: You have to run.

936
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Speaker 2: I'm like, why did you come to me? I never

937
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 2: expect an interest. No, you have to run. And the

938
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 2: same thing for leadership, you have to run for leadership.

939
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: You have to run for leadership. And so I did.

940
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Speaker 2: But so to these women, know your why, know your power,

941
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Speaker 2: be ready as you don't know when it might come

942
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 2: as an appointment or election or whatever it might be,

943
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Speaker 2: and know how important it is. And I always say

944
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Speaker 2: this prayer of African Presbyterian bishop put on a wall

945
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Speaker 2: and SI alone in a hospital and said, one one

946
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Speaker 2: day I go to reach I die, and I happily

947
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: go to reach my maker, my creator. He will say

948
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: to me, show me your wounds, and if I have

949
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: no wounds, you will say was nothing worth fighting for.

950
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Speaker 2: So I'm proud of my wounds, and I don't even

951
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 2: consider them wounds. I consider them badges of honor. But nonetheless,

952
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 2: it's rough, it's not for the faint of heart. It's tough,

953
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: but it's very worth it, and it's absolutely essential to

954
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Speaker 2: the success of our country.

955
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 3: More women in power. And now we're going to have.

956
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 2: You know, I've been described as a most powerful woman

957
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Speaker 2: in the United States, and I am so excited is

958
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Speaker 2: that in just a few weeks we'll have a woman

959
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Speaker 2: president of the United States. Not because it's emotional for me,

960
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Speaker 2: but it's not. And as I said when I ran,

961
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Speaker 2: don't vote for me because I'm a woman, but don't

962
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Speaker 2: vote against me because I'm a woman. She should win,

963
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Speaker 2: not because she's a woman, because she's the best. She's

964
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Speaker 2: the best. And that's what it's going to It's going

965
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Speaker 2: to be so exciting for our country and for the world.

966
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Speaker 2: The global message it will send I'm Ala Harrison in

967
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Speaker 2: resident of the United States.

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Speaker 1: As you sit here and look at this history, this

969
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 1: beautiful book, what's coming up? What feels in your life,

970
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: not even necessarily about work, but just for you, Nancy,

971
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: what feels like you're work in progress right now?

972
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Speaker 2: Well, again, it's always a family. So first and foremost

973
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: about family, and about children and grandchildren and the rest.

974
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Speaker 2: And I would say that when you have children, it's

975
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Speaker 2: you think you can take care of them. You know

976
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 2: you're going to make sure life is great for them.

977
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Speaker 2: But when you have grandchildren, these grandchildren. We have a

978
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Speaker 2: grandchild I was not quite a year old, who will

979
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Speaker 2: live into the next century. I live into the next century.

980
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Speaker 2: And I say that to my friends who have little children,

981
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Speaker 2: even if they're twenty years old, they may live into

982
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Speaker 2: the next century, the grandchildren.

983
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Speaker 3: And then we have to make sure that for the children.

984
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 2: The client, the planet, the society, the fairness of the justice,

985
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 2: all of it, that what our vision of our founders

986
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Speaker 2: is such that it is there or a great future

987
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 2: for our children. And elections are about the future, so

988
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: this one is particularly important.

989
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 3: Just Wendy particularly, let's.

990
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Speaker 2: Go win this.

991
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:09,919
Speaker 1: Let's go win this. Maybe thank you so so much,

992
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: thank you. I cherish the fact that I get to

993
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Speaker 1: know you, let alone interview you, and this has really

994
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Speaker 1: been a treat, my pleasure, my honor.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Sylvia