1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Twelve of the NFL's finest quarterbacks have left the comfort 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: of their stadiums and luxury suites for. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: The adventure of a lifetime. 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: These brit iron heroes are used to leading their teams 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: on the field, but can they outplay, outlast, and outthrow 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: each other in the ultimate survival challenge? 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 3: You ain't everything you have in the gobae tied you man, 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 3: We find a way to win the No matter what. 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: The stakes are high and the competition is fierce, only 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: one can claim the title of the ultimate survivor. Who 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: rise to the top and who will be sacked? 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 4: They wrote me off, I ain't right back, though, that's 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 4: the problem. 14 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: I'm right back. 15 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 4: Let's go. 16 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: This is Quarterback Island. That's right. 17 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 5: Welcome to Quarterback Island, a magical place where only your 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 5: imagination and your ability to read a cover to defense 19 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 5: while being a killer on the field and a politician 20 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 5: in front of the microphone can stop you. Yes, this 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 5: is it your vision, Jordan Rodrigue, Steve Weiss with us too. 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 5: We're wearing tropical shirts and we're going to decide what 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 5: quarterbacks in twenty twenty four deserve to start the season 24 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 5: on the island. This is a big moment for you, 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 5: specifically Jordan. 26 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 3: I'm so happy right now, like when I first heard that, 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 3: Like Randy, let's shout out. That was some excellent work 28 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: on the intro. 29 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 5: There, you guys are all on his own, no direction, 30 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 5: he just did it. 31 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: Love it. 32 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: You guys are on theme. We have props. By the way, 33 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: these are going to be really important if you're watching 34 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: on YouTube. We are. We each have a yes sign 35 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 3: and a no sign, very beautifully done by ETP behind 36 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 3: the glass. This is Quarterback Island. Shall I explain? 37 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 5: Yes, and welcome Steve from you from your travels all 38 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 5: around training camps. 39 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: But Steve's like what it's like, Oh, getting to know. 40 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 5: All the Hall of famers. That's great, this is the 41 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 5: real stuff. 42 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 6: But I will say this, I am disappointed and at 43 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 6: some of the sound we didn't use, and not including 44 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 6: Jameis Winston because. 45 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: His hype speech. 46 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 6: The week one preseason was almost as good as eating 47 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 6: the w Okay. 48 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: He's the chair of the Redemption House for those who 49 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 3: watch reality. 50 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 5: Hey, as we explain with Quarterback Island, there's no rules 51 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 5: that Jamis Winston can't emerge and find us a lot 52 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 5: on Quarterback Island by the end of the season. He's 53 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 5: not eligible right now. He's not a starting quarterback. And 54 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 5: that's the first thing. But do you want to explain, Jordan, 55 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 5: how a guy gets on Quarterback Island? 56 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? So Quarterback Island magical place. By the way, High Honor. 57 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: We're calibrating Quarterback Island right now. We're going to cut 58 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: it at twelve, so twelve quarterbacks will be voted onto 59 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: the island. We will do the voting majority vote. There's 60 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 3: three of us. For those who are watching on YouTube, 61 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: you can see this, but if you're not, if you're listening, 62 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: there are three of us here in the studio, two 63 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 3: very lovely Hawaiian ice patter. 64 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 65 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 66 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: And so we're going to go around the divisions and 67 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: we're going to talk through different quarterbacks and we're going 68 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: to vote about whether or not they are allowed on 69 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 3: Quarterback Island. We're gonna do this throughout the season. We 70 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: also can vote people off the island. There's gonna be 71 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: some politicking involved. There's gonna be some high stakes backstabbing. 72 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 3: Mm down the line, I'm already trying to buy Steve's votes. 73 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: So Greg, you better watch your back, man. 74 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: I mean, so we're like on the island, I mean 75 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: just survivor tech. 76 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, we are, we are there and I look at 77 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 5: it and you can tell me if I'm wrong. Like 78 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 5: what twelve quarterbacks as we enter the season. It's not 79 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 5: just who's the best? There's it's a little it's a 80 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 5: little vague, you know, I don't know if vegas the 81 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 5: right word. It's a little nebulos, like what quarterbacks define 82 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 5: the position? Right now? What quarterbacks do you want on 83 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 5: that island with who are the best? But also who 84 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 5: are the best long term? Who are the best short term? 85 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 3: It's and we can have and that's going to be 86 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: the fun part is debating over okay, but there are 87 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: two rules that we are starting out with. I'm looking 88 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: directly at you, Greg, okay, right now, I'm not worried 89 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: about Steve. I'm looking directly okay. Currently injured quarterbacks do 90 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: not qualify. So justin Herbert, who would be on quarterback 91 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 3: Island currently dealing with planter fasciitis kind of situation is 92 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: They hope to have a resolution of this, but situation 93 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: currently has less of a conclusion than we'd like. 94 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 5: This time of year, we don't want to start Quarterback 95 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 5: Island with a guy who might not suit up there. 96 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 5: We're going to reconvene. It might be as early as 97 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 5: week one, week two, once we see some data. And 98 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 5: then justin Herbert and good. 99 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 3: Ga, yes, and he could, he could. Justin Herbert could 100 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: end up kicking someone else off the island, which is 101 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 3: this is where the stakes come in. But also no rookies. 102 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 5: Okay, we'll revisit that. 103 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: We will not revisit. Let's no rookies until the season starts, 104 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: because Caleb Williams could come in and kick someone off. 105 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels, JJ McCarthy, your guy. I saw you tweeting 106 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: about him like. 107 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 5: I was very press. 108 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 3: Oh, come in, But Steve and I are going to 109 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 3: gang up on you here because they got to play 110 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: some real football first. 111 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 5: Greg, We'll get to it when we get to the 112 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 5: NFC North, but let's start NFC East because look, maybe 113 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 5: we all have different visions of what quarterback Island should be. 114 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 5: But to me, I think we start with the NFC 115 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 5: East and the Dallas Cowboys and Dak Prescott And it's 116 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 5: kind of easy to forget. Lamar Jackson last year unanimous MVP, 117 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 5: but there was a second place into this of MVP votes, 118 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 5: and he was the Dallas Cowboys quarterback. So to me, 119 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 5: this is one I don't think there needs to be 120 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 5: a ton of discussion about. I think Dak Prescott's a 121 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 5: pretty logical just choice. 122 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, is around. Yes. 123 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 6: My question is this, what if we like don't even 124 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 6: get like halfway through this, are we voting people off? 125 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: Yes? 126 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 5: Yes, if we get twelve people on and Eric keep 127 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 5: us honest, because I think that's the best way to 128 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 5: do it. If we happen to get twelve people we 129 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 5: get to the last division yet, then we'll have to 130 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 5: kick some people off. But Dak is definitely on. I 131 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 5: think we can say Daniel Jones of the New York 132 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 5: Giants is not a tough one here. He is definitely 133 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 5: a no across the board. 134 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: I hope he has his floaties. 135 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 5: Even at his peak two years ago. I don't think 136 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 5: he ever would have gotten onto quarterback Island. Would if 137 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 5: we have been a top twelve quarterback at some point 138 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 5: in the twenty two season. 139 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 6: Maybe, but I yeah, he might have been on the 140 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 6: quarterback raft. 141 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 5: Okay, he was one of the eight remaining quarterbacks of 142 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 5: the twenty twenty two players. We don't need to spend 143 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 5: too much time on the guys who are obvious. Jayde 144 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 5: Daniels you mentioned, is just eliminated. We don't even have 145 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 5: to vote applicable. He's not He's not a guy. Jalen Hurts. 146 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 5: I'm curious if we need to vote at all or 147 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 5: talk about or if we're in unison here that we 148 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 5: all have him on the island. 149 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: Yes is Yes is all around across the let's talk 150 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: about it. 151 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 5: Because I welcome Jalen. 152 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 3: Welcome Jalen, the second person. You would be good vibes 153 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: by the way I think Quarterback Island. You want to 154 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: it's a handsome it's a handsome man at it. It's 155 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 3: pretty privileged island. Yeah, like that's that was a great 156 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: mena Kime's reference there on that show. So I think 157 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: with Jalen Hurts, I really cannot wait to see what 158 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: this offense looks like. I can't wait what it will 159 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: look like with more motion that actually means something, not 160 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: just motion for the sake of motion, eye candy, that 161 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: actually changes gaps, that actually realigns formations in space. And 162 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: I can't ever discount what Jalen Hurts can do, you know, 163 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: with that dual threat ability, especially when he's gonna have 164 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 3: a really good running back with him in Saquon. Yes, 165 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: But at the same time, the dude can throw the 166 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: hell out of the ball as well. And he has 167 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: played at a very high level quarterbacks, some deep, deep 168 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: deep playoff team super Bowl loss obviously, but teams that 169 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: when even when the defense was doing nothing to help him. 170 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts belongs on Quarterback Island. Now, if this offense 171 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: comes out and and you know, just craps the bed, 172 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: then we'll revisit the conversation. But he is an outstanding 173 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: quarterback on Quarterback Ey. 174 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 6: He got like three awesome targets too. I mean, yeah, 175 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 6: Dallascott and HJ. Brown and Smith. 176 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 5: But do we take that into account, Jordan with Quarterback Island, 177 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 5: you almost have to. 178 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: I'm going to take that into account. 179 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 5: Some of the arguments make Well, here's the thing with Hurts. 180 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 5: I saw that ESPN Jeremy Fowler Executive poll. They had 181 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 5: him thirteenth. But you know they they. 182 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: Also thought that Josh Allen was overrated. 183 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 5: So they well, no, but that was one guy thought 184 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 5: that you know, they people like to pull, you know, 185 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 5: but he was like second on that list. They had 186 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 5: him thirteenth. I saw our guy, Stephen Ruiz, my guy, 187 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 5: I'm not going to give him to you guys. I 188 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 5: don't even know if you know Steven. 189 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 3: I love Steve. 190 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 5: He had him like thirteenth in his quarterback rankings too, 191 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 5: So I do think there's an underappreciation of how much 192 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts can do just as a physical threat. And 193 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 5: I was really excited that when he got to camp. 194 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 5: Everyone said after it was a little rocky picking up 195 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 5: the Kellen Moore offense in the off season night and day, 196 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 5: and the ball hasn't been on the ground that much 197 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 5: at camp. And to me, he's he's a no brainer. 198 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 5: People are too quick to put some of these other 199 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 5: guys will get to above Jalen Hurt. So I'm I'm 200 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 5: glad he's on. That's the NFC East. We have two 201 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 5: on from the NFC East. 202 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: Ten spots to go. Takes our rise. 203 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 5: Let's go you're on quarterback guy, Let's go to NFC. 204 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 5: Jared Goff is an interesting way. Let's talk about him 205 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 5: before we do any voting, because I feel like he 206 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 5: could be right there at the border at least he's 207 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 5: in that area. 208 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: For me. 209 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 5: Let's be real when we made our list. You guys 210 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 5: tell me if you're different. There's about seven, six or 211 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 5: seven are like, okay, that seems pretty He's on for sure. 212 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 5: There's about ten that are definitely not on. And then 213 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 5: there's about ten, yeah, ten to twelve that I think 214 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 5: we got to talk about. And I think Goff is 215 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 5: one of those guys. Does anyone want to make a 216 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 5: case four or against Jared Goff. 217 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: I'll make the case for Jared, Okay. I mean, one, 218 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: he's a damn good player. 219 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 6: Two he's got arguably I'm gonna put one of the 220 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 6: top three play designers, and Ben Johnson can stuff up 221 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 6: for him. You know, great offensive line. They've paid four 222 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 6: of their starting five offensive lineman they should, They've invested 223 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 6: heavily in the O line. 224 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: And he's got like just studs everywhere you look to 225 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: throw it to. 226 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 6: I mean, so besides being a good player, having a 227 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 6: great play designer, great offensive line, he's I mean, we're 228 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 6: gonna we're gonna get into some debate and I'm not 229 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 6: saying he's being carried here because I think he's a 230 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 6: proper well. 231 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 5: It is the first thing you brought up though, and 232 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 5: to me, I. 233 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: Said he was a great player. 234 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 5: We all disagree maybe on what it takes to be 235 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 5: on quarterback, and to me, the teammates don't matter because 236 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 5: that much because I'm thinking he's on an island. 237 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 2: We want that. 238 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 5: I want the twelve guys who defined the position right 239 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 5: who are playing the best right now. And yes, you're right, 240 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 5: if they have great people around him, then we'll look 241 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 5: smarter because he's gonna have a good season. But I'm 242 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 5: more thinking about the guy I want a little bit 243 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 5: in a vacuum, and so I think Goff maybe struggles 244 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 5: in that front. 245 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 3: You know what, though, I'm okay with Jared Goff and 246 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 3: of in a vacuum, I'm less okay with Jared Goff 247 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: against some of these crazy pressure defenses, but in a vacuum. 248 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: To your point, Greg, just in a vacuum. I don't 249 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: think Jared Goff is out here lowering any floors for 250 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: teammates and is being He is doing what he's asked 251 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: to do. But he is also at this point in 252 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 3: his career, far less so than perhaps in previous years, 253 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: elevating along with a group that is peaking at the 254 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: right time. I think I talk about this all the time. 255 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: I think pace is one of the sneaky most important 256 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: things for a quarterback to have along with his organization, 257 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: not to outgrow the pace of the organization, not to 258 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: undergrow the pace of the organization, but to match it 259 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 3: along with those playmakers, along with the collaborators that are 260 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 3: helping this thing go. I'm not saying that, you know, 261 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 3: Jared Goff can lift the you know, chiefs receivers that 262 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: we've seen over the past couple I'm not saying that 263 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 3: at all. That's a whole other conversation. I'm just saying 264 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: he has the right pace. I do think he belongs 265 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 3: on quarterbacky. I will also say, though, that I flip 266 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: flopped a lot of times with a lot of guys 267 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 3: sort of in that middle tier to the point where 268 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: it was like a dunk tank situation. It's like you're 269 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 3: in the water. 270 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 5: I'll try to convince you out of it. Because I'm 271 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 5: voting no. I'm voting no for Jared Goff. I want 272 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 5: to see what you guys are voting. 273 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: You're going on. 274 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 6: But he might be the first guy to get to 275 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 6: get pulled off the plane. 276 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 3: I agree with Steve. I'm voting yes, but it might 277 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 3: be he might just keep one pinky toad dipped in there. 278 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 5: Okay, well, I'm trying to avoid an embarrassing situation. If 279 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 5: you guys say you like Jared Goff as much as 280 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 5: you do, like, maybe save him the embarrassment of him 281 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 5: being on the island and thinking he's all good. This 282 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 5: is like when he was on Rams Island and they 283 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 5: booted him off because they wanted a shinier model. Later, 284 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 5: what if he gets kicked off for Matthew Stafford in. 285 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 2: A little bit. 286 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 3: Jared Jared Goff tied for sixth in EPA per play 287 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: zero point one one EPA p pass play with c. J. 288 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: Stroud and Matthew Stafford. And yes, a lot of factors 289 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: go into that. It's not going to be the sexy 290 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: brand of throwing the ball that we see from other quarterbacks, 291 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: but it's getting the job done. 292 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, on this island, things can get bumpy. 293 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 5: You get you know, hurricanes, you need food. Like you 294 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 5: were worried about him handling a pressure defense, how about 295 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 5: a pressure front coming in. It might not be able 296 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 5: to anily listen. 297 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: When you're on an island, you just need one person 298 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: who you can outrun when the bear's coming all right. 299 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: Okay, Wow, we're talking squalls. 300 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 5: I don't know if Jared Goff might be the slowest 301 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 5: guy on this island when we get to the end 302 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 5: of it, so he might be the guy people are 303 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 5: out running. All right, let's stay in the division. Let's 304 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 5: go to the Packers. Jordan Love, do we want to 305 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 5: talk about it or do we want to vote? Right 306 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 5: off the bat. He's an interesting case because people that 307 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 5: thought he got paid too early. I disagree with that 308 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 5: because they saw enough, I think to know, they've seen 309 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 5: enough in their building to know what they want for 310 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 5: the next four to five years. It's not just about 311 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 5: those nine games now putting him on the quarterback island 312 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 5: of like twelve defining quarterbacks in the league. He's going 313 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 5: up against some other player eventually that I've shown it 314 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 5: over a longer period of time. But to me, I'm 315 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 5: going to vote yes right off the bat because of 316 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 5: the talent is just outrageous. Jordan, what do you vote? 317 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: I'm voting yes for all the like a lot of 318 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: the reasons you said, but also because we're going to 319 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: talk about some guy. Oh, Steve's gonna have a chance 320 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: to it to Rebut here we were talking about a 321 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: lot of guys who are either peeking or potentially on 322 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: the brink of descending a little bit. There's a lot 323 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: of guys that we're going to get to that are 324 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 3: kind of in that category. I think is ascending along 325 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: with a really exciting core group of skill players of talent, 326 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: a coordinator that gets him and vice versa in the 327 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 3: in the head coach, and I think he's ascending at 328 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: the right time. That's why I vote yes. 329 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 6: I mean, I I agree with all that. I'm just 330 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 6: looking at the other list and. 331 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: Inviting about your fall, guys. 332 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a tiny island. Yeah, the island you're. 333 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: Going to be Sean McVay you. 334 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 5: To me, I'm thinking about this island, not just of 335 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 5: like who's the best, like who who explains the quarterback position? 336 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 5: Who defines it in the year twenty twenty four. And 337 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 5: to me, when I'm looking at who's playing on Sunday 338 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 5: or it's Friday night to start the season, Jordan Love 339 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 5: is right near the very top of the list of 340 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 5: like guys I want to see and in that offense, 341 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 5: which you know, just a great young I just feel 342 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 5: like that's more sizzle, that's more QB island to me 343 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 5: than Jared Goff. So I'm voting yes. 344 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 3: I will revise 's on one small point, and you 345 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: can still vote no if you know, if you are 346 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: not are if you are so unmoved by this passionate 347 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: speech here. But I think that Jordan Love, if we're 348 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: talking about embodies quarterbacking, I think he embodies it in 349 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: so many ways in terms of specifically the conversation about 350 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: development about pace, like I mentioned about what it really 351 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: takes to eventually put all the pieces together as a 352 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 3: player and to keep growing and to continue to push 353 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: and ascend even when all of the millions and millions 354 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 3: of things that come upon these players the course of 355 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: a career could break them, and adversity and all those things. 356 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 3: Problem solving, developing and getting better, and that is one 357 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: of the key elements that every great quarterback, eventual great 358 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 3: quarterback has, and he's already showing very small signs of 359 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 3: being able. 360 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 5: To do that. 361 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 6: I agree with all that I'm just playing island GM here. Okay, 362 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 6: we'll really have fifty three spots on the island right well, 363 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 6: I know that I'm just playing island G Yes, I. 364 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: Mean I can't keeping spots, Okay, I hear you. So 365 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: we're clearly in this. 366 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 6: If we're taking two by division, well that would be 367 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 6: sixteen so far we're taking. 368 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 5: I just say that that Jordan love Man can throw 369 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 5: the ball really far and it's really exciting. All right, 370 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 5: let's go to the Vikings JJ McCarthy and or C. M. 371 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 4: Donald. 372 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 5: That's obviously a no. If we're counting Donald and then 373 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 5: the Bears. I guess eligible. I guess the rules are 374 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 5: saying that Caleb Williams is ineligible. I just got to say, like, 375 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 5: why not get ahead of things again? If you're talking 376 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 5: about defining the position. I've seen enough. It's not just 377 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 5: the preseason. It's Caleb Williams as a prospect. Like Caleb 378 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 5: Williams again, bringing the juice, bringing the talent. He is 379 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 5: going to be such a big part, I believe, of 380 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 5: all of our lives for the next ten or fifteen years. 381 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 5: He is going to be building a high rise on 382 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 5: quarterback Island. Like he's going to be there. We might 383 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 5: as well just put him there now, because who's more 384 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 5: important to the quarterback position in the coming year, Jared 385 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 5: Goffer or Caleb Williams. 386 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: I would just put Caleb agree without going to school first, 387 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 2: bro to what. 388 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 5: He plays one or two games and we put him on. 389 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: Yes, we have that power. We so have that power 390 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: and authority as the lords of quarterback. 391 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, no hate, no hate for Caleb here. He's going 392 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 2: to be fantastic. 393 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 3: Because I agree with you. I do think in terms 394 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 3: of the zeitgeist of what football is and what quarterbacking 395 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 3: is like, Yes, of course Caleb Woods. 396 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 2: But I think it's going to be that good right 397 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 2: off the bat. 398 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 5: If CJ. Stroud can be that good right off the bat, 399 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 5: and why can't Caleb Williams. 400 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: You build a foundation on concrete, not say and don't 401 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: make that man build a foundation for a skyscraper on 402 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 3: a sandy island. Greg, give him the tools to build 403 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 3: a foundation on concrete. Then we'll put it over on 404 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 3: the island. 405 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 2: You gotta hit him with the. 406 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 5: Sun on the end that you there that hurt am. 407 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 5: I gotta give it to you, all right, I will. 408 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 3: Some pink things, get some sunscreen on it. 409 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 5: I feel. I feel chastened, is what I feel. Let's 410 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 5: go to the NFC South. I don't think we're gonna 411 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 5: fight too QUI no, Derek Carr of the Saints. 412 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 3: I have no sign. 413 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: No, No, I. 414 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 5: Mean you need a guy who can withstand pressure, not 415 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 5: just literal pass rush heat. I think he struggled was that, Yeah, 416 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 5: we don't even have much of a conversation here. No, 417 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 5: but also like you gotta a standing from the media 418 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 5: to a little bit. I feel like sometimes he gets 419 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 5: a little sensitive. So that's I want. I want a 420 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 5: guy who's who's strong, you can stay. 421 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: I love Derek, but no, now we're talking Top twelve. 422 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 5: Bryce Young is a is a know all around. We 423 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 5: all hope the best for Bryce Baker Mayfield. Nice turnaround. 424 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 5: Did you did anyone think about Baker Maype. 425 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 6: I did not think about Baker no respect limitations. 426 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 5: And yet the closer I've gotten to the season, I've 427 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 5: convinced myself that this Bucks team, who I'm going to 428 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 5: pick to win this are a little more frisky and 429 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 5: deeper in terms of their talent than people realize. So 430 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 5: I think he might be set up for more success 431 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 5: than people realize. 432 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 6: That's all I agree. We're talking top twelve here. He 433 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 6: may have to fight his way on. 434 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 5: Okay, and the final quarterback in the division is Kirk Cousins, 435 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 5: probably the most interesting one to talk about. You want 436 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 5: to make a case for or against the start off. 437 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: Jordan, I am not putting Kirk cousins interest on quarterback Island. 438 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: I had some I had some thought about this. I 439 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: had a real good think on this particular argument because 440 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: I am willing we'll get to I know we'll get 441 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: to him in a minute. I am willing to put 442 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers on Quarterback Island and both coming off of well, 443 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 3: we'll see because we're getting tight on the numbers here 444 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 3: as Steve a steam point and. 445 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: Output, you got three on I. 446 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: I just the streakiness. You and Ollie Connolly had a 447 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 3: great show episode just talking about Kirk's streakiness. He's gonna 448 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 3: do you know, I believe in Zach Robinson, but Zach 449 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 3: Robinson is gonna have to learn. He's got a really 450 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: steep learning curve, almost similar to that of what a 451 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: young quarterback would have, and Kirk will help him with that. 452 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 3: But I just think you're one of this. I know 453 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 3: everyone looked at the Falcons as like, Okay, they're ready 454 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: to win now. They're ready to win now. But I 455 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 3: kind of tend to think that they might stall a 456 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 3: little because there is relative inexperience on certain things, and 457 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna get scored on a lot. 458 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: Prove it to me. 459 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins, Uh, okay, you had said yes, I would 460 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 5: have gotten no just because of your reasoning. You got 461 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 5: you know, and I'm spiteful of like he's almost a little. 462 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 3: Like the game is bringing the best out of Gray. 463 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 5: It's like he's a little like Cale Williams. To me, 464 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 5: it's like a new team. You're coming off an Achilles injury. 465 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 5: You're thirty six years old, and let be real, for 466 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 5: the majority of your career you've been about QB thirteen 467 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 5: QB twelve anyways, So why am I even though you're 468 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 5: always in the news giving you the benefit of the doubt, 469 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 5: you're not getting on the island. 470 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 6: Chains is not. He wear the change on the plane. 471 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 6: But I'm with you, he's not. 472 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 5: That's the first surprise to me. I thought, for some reason, 473 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 5: I would be on an island. 474 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: But there's a couple of guys Gregg Island. 475 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 5: Couple guys got Greg Island would be sneaky fun. It'd 476 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 5: be lawful, but it'd be sneaky fun. 477 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 3: God, it would just be constant noise. 478 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: It would be annoying. Law I don't know. 479 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 5: I just wanted to make sure islands have been getting 480 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 5: a bad rap lately, so I'm just wanting you know, 481 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 5: it's all all kosher there on Greg Allen, great food. 482 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 2: By the way. 483 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 5: Let's take a quick break and then we will come 484 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 5: back and go through the rest of the divisions and 485 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 5: determine who is making it to QB Islands to start this. 486 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we're back on Quarterback Island. 487 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: Man, What the name of lot. 488 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 3: Going on with the drumps lords of Quarterback Island? I 489 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 3: feel power, much power. 490 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 5: I am having so much fun, but I'm having even 491 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 5: more fun seeing how much fun Jordan is having. And 492 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 5: I do want to apologize to anyone that knows Derek 493 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 5: Carr in the car family who heard a sound effect 494 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 5: that sounded like a man drowning. That was That was 495 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 5: a sound effect we weren't expecting to use. We had 496 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 5: decided against. It was a little too large. Let's actually 497 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 5: hear it again now that now that I've brought it up, Okay, 498 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 5: that's it's too far. First of all, he was never 499 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 5: on Okay, y, we're not going to do that again. 500 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 5: But I did make me laugh that you hit it 501 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 5: by mistake and I just wanted to explain it to the. 502 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: My shoulders have ten stuff. 503 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 2: But that was a little much. It was a little much. 504 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 5: NFC West Matthew Stafford. You know a couple of years ago, 505 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 5: I would have thought he would have taken a discussion. 506 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 5: You say, yes, Steve, Yes. 507 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, slam dunk. 508 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 6: I mean Anthony Stafford over the back half of the 509 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 6: season was one of the best top two quarterbacks in 510 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 6: the NFL last year. We know how good he is. 511 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 6: He's got he's got too over the back half of 512 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 6: the season last year. 513 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 514 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, and with with Pooka and the cool and Cooper Cup, 515 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 6: now tight end situation is going to be interesting. 516 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: And he is. 517 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 5: He looks a little thinner. 518 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 3: This's Ginny Stafford. 519 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a. 520 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 5: Little different moves so well, I kind of don't get it. 521 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 5: When I was at the practice, I was like, I 522 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 5: don't remember. I know he moved well last year, but 523 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 5: then even better. How was he getting better twelve They're. 524 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 3: Saying it's the tennis for Actually they're saying it's all 525 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 3: the tennis he's playing in the off season. 526 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: I didn't know he was playing. That's really good for 527 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: an elbow. 528 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he's going lefty. Yeah. Maybe, Well that also 529 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 3: tells you how good that elbow feels, I think, because 530 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 3: you know how hyper fixated he is on any little 531 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: thing that might be possibly wrong, you know, with the arm. 532 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 5: You know he's pickle No, we're not into pickle ball 533 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 5: on QB, Islander or in the Chris Westling. 534 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 3: Only real sports only on QB. 535 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 2: That's right. 536 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 5: And I do love that Drew Brees and Matthew Stafford 537 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 5: were both big time tennis players. But it kind of 538 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 5: explains what's happened to American tennis. We lose a lot 539 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 5: of the good athletes, you know, to the to the 540 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 5: bigger sports. Disappointing. Stafford is on what a what a 541 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 5: career arc. Honestly, for most of his career he was 542 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 5: bouncing around around that number twelve thirteen spot. And yet 543 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,239 Speaker 5: I'm with you, no brainer. Kyler Murray is anyone does 544 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 5: anyone want to make a case that he belongs I 545 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 5: I am a big Kyler Murray fan. Steve says, yes, Wow, Yes. 546 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 6: I'm going to argue this to the Crows come home. 547 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 6: I think he's a dynamic player. When he's on the field, 548 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 6: they win. Like when you look at the losses Kyler 549 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 6: Murray has been off the field or d Hop or 550 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 6: James Connor, like they haven't had anybody else since. I 551 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 6: think Kyler Murray is a top twelve quarterback in the NFL. 552 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 6: They've got him some weapons, They've tightened up the offensive 553 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 6: line a little bit. I'm not saying Arizona is going 554 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 6: to be a playoff team, but I think we're going 555 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 6: to see Kyler Murray be able to play his best football. 556 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 6: He's not going to be escaping the free rusher that 557 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 6: came with the head coaches blocking schemes. 558 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 2: He's going to be able to do his thing. We 559 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: know he's got the Bazouk of an arm. We know 560 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: he's a dual threat. 561 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 6: You guys talked about defining the position or he's the 562 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 6: ARC type. 563 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 5: Now, Jordan, as someone who came up with QB. Allen 564 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 5: to begin with, do you see any projection in our 565 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 5: ability as voters because he is you know, he played 566 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 5: the second half of last season. And I feel like 567 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 5: I'm about as high on Kyler Murray this season as 568 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 5: I could be, and I had him as a no. 569 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 5: And yet I think for the first time Steve has 570 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 5: convinced me anyone has convinced me of anything. So good job, Steve. 571 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 3: This is a really big day. 572 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 6: This also helps been taking any quarterbacks from the Enfercy 573 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 6: South is that's true. 574 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 5: We got five guys so far now that we have Stafford, 575 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 5: we have Dak Jalen, Hurtz, Goff, Jordan Love and Stafford. 576 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 5: We have five on. But I think you just swung 577 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 5: me because I guess I'm viewing it. Maybe we should 578 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 5: have a little bit of a projection that I think 579 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 5: he's going to be there in the end, so why 580 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 5: not put him there right now? 581 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: He gets me juiced up. I'm saying, yes, he's on. 582 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 3: My problem with this and I have my no sign up. 583 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 3: My only issue with this because I am fully willing 584 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 3: and ready to vote him on to Quarterback Island by 585 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 3: like week three, because I think he's going to have 586 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: an outstanding year. It is inarguable what he accomplished last year. 587 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 3: But I am doing the math, and I've got my 588 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 3: names written out here. I'm doing the math. 589 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 5: Yea, you took Caleb away from me. Kirk was on 590 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 5: the borderline. 591 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 3: So now Quarterback Island is not about retaliation, Greg, It's 592 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 3: about quarterbacks. 593 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: It's about getting We're on the slippery slope pier. 594 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I gotta say if I will say, and 595 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna put my you know, I'm not a mom, 596 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 3: and don't get my mom voice here, Greg like, Yeah, 597 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 3: if we're not arguing projection with anyone else, we can't 598 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 3: just change that for one person. I will tell you 599 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 3: I'm fully ready by week three or four to watch 600 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 3: him play his way onto the island. I think he 601 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 3: has the gifts the skills to do it. Short king, 602 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 3: we love that. But also if we're not arguing, if 603 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 3: we're not allowing arguing of projection as a fundamental principle 604 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 3: of the previous what six people we've just voted on 605 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 3: the island, then we can't just ark the rule a 606 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 3: little bit. 607 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 5: For one, he's like right on that borderline. 608 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: The numbers he may be coming off. It's tough. 609 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think just for the show entertainment, it'd be 610 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 5: fun to kick some people off too. And so I 611 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 5: don't appreciate you saying a guy that's five eleven is 612 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 5: short because. 613 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 2: I love five eleven. 614 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray was yeah, yeah, breaking here push back on that. 615 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 5: One, all right, I love that, I love it. Could 616 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 5: we go across the border how many NFC West We 617 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 5: have two more quarterbacks in the NFC West? 618 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 3: No, I mean how many? 619 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 5: How many spots left? Because we just voted Kyler on, 620 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 5: So that's six at six. 621 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. He's coming off. There's no way, 622 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: So should I change you? 623 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 5: Kind of did change my mind a little bit with 624 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 5: the whole projection idea, so we got to save him 625 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 5: the embarrassment. 626 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: Okay, he's no. 627 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 3: It was so wait was I the second person to 628 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: ever change you? 629 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 2: Now have changed my mind back Tyler? 630 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 5: Steve. 631 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: This is a big date on the same QB who knew. 632 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 3: Steve and Ire This is a big day. 633 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 5: And that's because I want to make the case for 634 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 5: Geno sith. I think he is right around that twelfth 635 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 5: quarterback mark over the last two seasons combined. So to me, 636 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 5: that's a nice track record. Steve lifts up a sign 637 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 5: that says no. Jordan lifts up a sign that says no. 638 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 3: Like Kyler, I am ready to watch him play his 639 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: way onto. 640 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: The ie he played it. 641 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 5: I watch the twenty twenty three season, I watched the 642 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 5: twenty twenty two season. 643 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 3: I did, I did, and I heard every minute of 644 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 3: you honking about Geno's. 645 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 5: We threw her forty four hundred when he was when 646 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 5: he was top five VP in the league on first 647 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 5: and second down, and they can't protect him on third down. 648 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: It all falls apart. 649 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: This is all numbers. This is all numbers to me too, 650 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 3: in terms of the math that we're that we're doing 651 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 3: here on on quarterback Island and the predetermined spots available 652 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: on quarterback Island. I like Kyler. My no is not 653 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: like a firm no. It's it's a bit of a 654 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 3: wobbly no in that I am fully ready to watch 655 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 3: Geno Smith play his way onto quarterback Island and get 656 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: one of these twelve spots. 657 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 5: I mean, is that just what you're going to say 658 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 5: to let people down gently when you. 659 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 3: Are No, Because I believe in Geno Smith. I think 660 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 3: he's outstanding. 661 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 5: I think, well, because I'm annoyed by this, I'm now 662 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 5: putting Kyler back on as a yes. I don't know 663 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 5: if you were finished as a yes. 664 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: No, he's off. 665 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 6: I'm looking at the numbers. You haven't party AFC yet. 666 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 6: We haven't got the AFC yet. 667 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 3: AFC is the majority roll, get get fined. 668 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: Well, let's get to the next guy. 669 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 5: Hey, Okay, Brock pretty see. I truly do believe you know, 670 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 5: it's been a top twelve quarterback over the last two years. 671 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 5: You make the case. Party was one where I didn't 672 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 5: have a yes or no. I just wanted to listen 673 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 5: to what you guys said. 674 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 3: I am, first of all, not going to give brock 675 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 3: Purty negative marks for his own success and for his 676 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: own development over the last couple of years. I think 677 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 3: he takes more risks than people think he takes. I'm 678 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: and I also am not going to Like we've argued 679 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 3: from the start here, I'm not this has been the 680 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 3: parameter I've judged through. Now it's okay if not everyone 681 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 3: judges through that parameter, but through what I've judged through, 682 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 3: I am not going to punish a quarterback for accentuating 683 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 3: the system around him and vice versa. I like I said, 684 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: I don't think he's dropping anyone's floor. I think the 685 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 3: pace of this offense is that it all raises together. 686 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 5: Is he better than Kyler? 687 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 3: I don't. I think that they're both going to be 688 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 3: on queer back measured differently. Yes, okay, Steve go so, I. 689 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 6: Mean my thing when it's the first time about Kyler 690 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 6: I mean, you talk about all the athletic things, so 691 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 6: that's Kyler, but you talk about somebody who not only 692 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 6: runs this offense. You watch Rock Party. I watch every 693 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 6: one of their games. He is a killer. He has 694 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 6: got that Joe Burrow Final two minutes. I'm taking your 695 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 6: teeth out approach to him. And I am a huge 696 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 6: Rock Party guy because at the end of games, at 697 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 6: the end of moments, he elevates people, and well, the 698 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 6: hardest thing to do when you have a superstar lineup 699 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 6: is to get all of these guys rocking and rolling 700 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 6: consistently at the biggest moments. 701 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 2: I am. I am Team rock Purty all day. 702 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 3: I will also tell you Steve spent a lot of 703 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 3: time up there. I've spent a little bit of time 704 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 3: up there as well in previous seasons as he was 705 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 3: still developing. And this is not a quarterback who simply 706 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 3: does what Kyle Shanahan tells him to do. Maybe he 707 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 3: started that way and that's what helped him really see 708 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 3: football in that way and really develop in a very 709 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 3: specific way. Very specific by the way, too, all of 710 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 3: the little micro details of that ecosystem that is how 711 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 3: they developed him. Is like you are basically the AI 712 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 3: program of what Kyle Shanahan wants to do. And that's fine, 713 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 3: But I don't think he just simply throws points where 714 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 3: Kyle points, throws ball where Kyle wants ball thrown. Like. 715 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 3: I think there's a legitimate collaboration starting to develop there. 716 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 5: I'm with you, and he's an improving player. And the 717 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 5: reason I vote yes in the end too, is you're, oh. 718 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 3: You had us in the first half. 719 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 5: I wasn't sure he was up in the air. But 720 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 5: to me, it's more important that he helped. If we're 721 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 5: talking about the position in twenty four defining the position, 722 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 5: I think he really makes it on that count too. 723 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 5: And when you said about killer at the end of 724 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 5: the games, I just started think about it. I just 725 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 5: double checked it. I mean, they needed a touchdown at 726 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 5: the end of the divisional round or they would have 727 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 5: faced absolutely terrible upset. They get the touchdown. They needed 728 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 5: a touchdown and or a field goal five straight drives 729 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 5: against the Lions. Yes, and they or else they wouldn't have, 730 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 5: you know, and he struggled. He set them up for 731 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 5: that definit but he gets it. And even in the 732 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 5: Super Bowl where you know their defense played great through 733 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 5: three quarters. He needs a touchdown and a field goal 734 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 5: to get them two overtime, and a field goal in overtime, 735 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 5: which it shouldn't be dismissed. He gets them all. I mean, 736 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 5: that is pretty kind of amazing if you think about it. 737 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: Very clear, we're not saying that because he's on quarterback Island, 738 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 3: that he's like sitting in the throne on quarterback Island, 739 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: which I've just developed and built in my mind, which 740 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 3: that's a whole other that's a whole other show. I'm 741 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 3: saying he is on quarterback Island. Okay, he could be 742 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 3: off quarterback island if he plays poorly or someone plays better. 743 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 5: Okay, we have gotten through the NFC, so we're six on. 744 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 5: We've done it nice and evenly. But I don't know 745 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 5: if that's how it's all because the coming off is 746 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 5: deeper in quarterbacks. 747 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: He's coming off. 748 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 5: Let's go to the AFC East. I don't think Josh 749 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 5: Allen needs any discussion. We are all around giving him 750 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 5: a Yes, he has earned his right, whether he's QB two, 751 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 5: QB three, who knows he's he's up there to a 752 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 5: tongue of Iiloa. To me is one of the more 753 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 5: fascinating ones. We can talk about Steve. Let's just talk 754 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 5: about him before we voted. 755 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 3: All. 756 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 5: You've had a lot of time around to it. You 757 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 5: saw him get paid. What are your thoughts. 758 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 6: I saw him play a full season last year and 759 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 6: lighted up. I saw a dude whose teammates roll with him. Okay, 760 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 6: this is a guy. Let's not forget. He came in 761 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 6: his rookie year where the head coach you didn't want him, 762 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 6: overcoming an injury fully healthy. The next year head coach 763 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 6: you didn't want him has to change ocs still puts 764 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 6: up numbers. Now he comes in with a head coach, 765 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 6: he says, Okay, I got a guy who can run 766 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 6: my system. I got a guy who's who's good. We 767 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 6: got him some players around and any lights it up. 768 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 6: This is an ascending player. This he is a top 769 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 6: ten to twelve quarterback in the NFL. 770 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: I mean you could do this. Oh he's not this, 771 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: or he doesn't have the strongest sign. There's a lot of. 772 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 6: Teams that will like to a tongue of my load. 773 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 6: There's a reason why they paid him, because if they 774 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 6: didn't he went elsewhere, there'd be someone else who paid 775 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 6: him and that's another barometer here. So we're on the island. 776 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 6: We're not gonna put the Samoan dude on the island. 777 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: That's fair. 778 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 5: I'm a little confused now because we've put Jared Goff 779 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 5: on the island. 780 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 2: Who I didn't He's on it. He's on the potentially 781 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 2: I didn't want. 782 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 5: He's actually had above Jared Goff, but probably below the 783 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 5: cutoff line for the island. I do want to say, 784 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 5: so now that you guys have forced golf on me, 785 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 5: that makes me less likely Am I the swing vote 786 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 5: to vote for two. 787 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 6: Of you can't have six NFC dudes on Now that 788 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 6: I'm looking at this, We'll see. 789 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 3: I don't think we will, Okay, Yeah, I I all 790 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 3: when I was going back and forth, he was one 791 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 3: of the people who I flip flopped on so many 792 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 3: times thinking about this, and I interchanged him with Jared 793 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 3: and also even with brock Perty I interchanged them together, 794 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 3: certainly with Kyler a little bit with Gino as well, 795 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 3: but with Tua Steve. I know you know this because 796 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 3: you spend so much time out there when you stand, 797 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 3: if you get to stand, if you ever are lucky 798 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 3: and you get to stand behind the way that they 799 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 3: run that offensive operation in a live best on best 800 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 3: ones period, and you hear all of the things that 801 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 3: Tua does before the snap in terms of orchestrating all 802 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 3: of the moving pieces of that offense, I think he 803 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 3: is being asked to do more pre snap than almost 804 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 3: any other quarterback in the league, first of all. Second 805 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,280 Speaker 3: of all, what a lot of people don't understand about 806 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 3: motion is that every First of all, there are a 807 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 3: million different types of motion that most of which we 808 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 3: never even talk about, and they all are timed off 809 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 3: of the quarterback's cadence, the spacing in between certain words, 810 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 3: the way that they manipulate to sort of send a 811 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 3: signal to the offense that we're gonna run this motion 812 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 3: even though it sounds. The defense like this motion, timing 813 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 3: it with the exact snap, the quarterback building that rapport 814 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 3: and trust, with the receivers changing gaps, and the quarterback 815 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 3: understanding which way the defense is going to move, because, 816 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 3: like I said before, with Jalen Hurts and that previous 817 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 3: Eagles offense, it's not just moving a guy just to 818 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 3: move him. It is picking up a gap, putting it 819 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 3: under your arm, and or running with it to another 820 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 3: place and moving a defender and then so understanding the 821 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,240 Speaker 3: way that the defenses and the voids, especially in zoning 822 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 3: defenses change at that point the space underneath the shell 823 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 3: of the zone defense. And so with Tua tongue of Ailo, 824 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 3: I've flip flopped so much because I do think that 825 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 3: he is being asked to do more than most quarterbacks. 826 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 5: Into what's your answer? 827 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 3: My answer is yes, and I know I'm gonna I 828 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 3: know I'm gonna kick someone off, but I also have him, 829 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 3: Like I said, I also have him like right on 830 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 3: the fringe because you're looking at you know, the record. 831 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 3: The struggle is late down the stretch of the of 832 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 3: the collective. 833 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 5: And don't consistently, and I do think that should matter 834 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 5: somewhat that he can survive a season and play at 835 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 5: a similar level throughout. That's the next level. That's the 836 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 5: you know, you got to play an entire season and 837 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 5: be consistent year after a year, and he hasn't quite 838 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 5: done that. 839 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 3: That's why he was right on the. 840 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 5: I'm on the borderline on one hand, like I want 841 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 5: to avoid all the Dolphins fans seeing the list where 842 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 5: there's only two. On the other hand, I kind of 843 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 5: want you to come after me, So I kind of 844 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 5: want to kick them off just to hear about it 845 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 5: because it makes me feel good. 846 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 3: Don't tag the rest of us, just tag Greg. 847 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so let me just put this out there. Now, 848 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 2: he's on. You guys voted him on, So let me 849 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 2: just put this. 850 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 6: Out there just because we think some of these guys 851 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 6: can n us here in shallow water. If you put 852 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 6: two on Detroit or put two with the Packers, is 853 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 6: he putting up same or better numbers than. 854 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 2: Those other guys. 855 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 3: I think he's putting up similar numbers. Yes, yeah, I agree. 856 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 2: So two is on. That's good. 857 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 5: That's a good way to put it. But but I 858 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,720 Speaker 5: will tell you, Jordan Love would be more aesthetically pleasing. 859 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 5: But everything you're saying reminds me of like Kurt Warner, 860 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 5: and Kurt Warner always is a to a defender, I 861 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 5: believe because to win that way pre snaff and then 862 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 5: with touch, timing, anticipation. I mean, so many of the 863 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 5: greatest quarterbacks in the history of the game I've won 864 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 5: that way. Joe Montana half history. Our people were like, 865 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 5: how is he getting this done? And I'm not saying 866 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 5: two is at that level, but that type of player 867 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 5: sometimes does get a little undervalued by jokers like me 868 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 5: who just look at the physical traits. 869 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 3: And I want to say, and I'm honking now, I 870 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 3: understand that, thank you for being such a great mentor 871 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 3: to me, Greg, But like this is also it goes 872 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 3: even beyond like all of the different It's a conductor 873 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 3: of an orchestra. You're hitting the timpanye in one part 874 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 3: and you're doing a little pinky point. It's someone else 875 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 3: that's getting the violin, and you've got the clarinet going 876 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 3: off and doing some crazy shit, and it's just like 877 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 3: you have to know what all of the pieces are 878 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 3: going to do and how the defense is going to react. 879 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 3: But then you have a second play, so you get 880 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 3: them to react to the first play, and then you 881 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,919 Speaker 3: reorchestrate the entire thing. 882 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 2: Did you go? Can can? 883 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 3: Right there, I'm like, wild, did you go? 884 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 2: Can't? Can't? Second place? 885 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 3: And can water water go back to the first one, 886 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 3: and so I think here's the here's the thing though, 887 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 3: it's also about all of the different ways he could 888 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 3: throw the ball. I know we talk at nauseum about 889 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 3: the arm strength with Tua, but the way that they're 890 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 3: able to do some of the no hitch throws because 891 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 3: of the speed they have it skill players and again 892 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 3: parameters that that I'm using here as I'm not punishing 893 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 3: a guy for the skill players here and all of 894 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 3: the speed they can go no hitch. So you're you're 895 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 3: not hitching in your throat YouTube. You can watch me 896 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 3: awkwardly do that. You're not hitching with your throat. You're 897 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 3: going quick game, but you're actually going intermediate and deep 898 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 3: routes because you have that speed. 899 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:45,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you. 900 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 3: Still can hit that even though all of it, all 901 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 3: of that orchestration that I just talked about, is happening 902 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 3: in half the time. And that's miliciny. 903 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 5: It's fast, he's fast, he's on the he's on the island. 904 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:56,720 Speaker 2: Not quickly. 905 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 5: You convinced me, impressive. Honking Drake may not eligible. Jacoby 906 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 5: Brissett is a no no with whichever Patriot. Aaron Rodgers 907 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 5: is a weird one. I actually thought Aaron Rodgers would 908 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 5: be a relatively easy no at this point because he's 909 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 5: at a prove it season to me. For me, not 910 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 5: just because he's coming off of such a serious injury 911 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 5: orthough that's into it, but because he didn't play that well, 912 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 5: the last season that he was healthy. So I'm not 913 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 5: just rubber stamping Aaron Rodgers onto this island when I've 914 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 5: seen guys like Gino Smith and Kirk Cousins out play 915 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 5: him the last couple of years and they didn't make 916 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 5: it on the island. He's a big fat no. 917 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,919 Speaker 2: He's a big fat yes. 918 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 6: Mark seriously telling me you're taking Gino Smith over Aaron 919 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 6: Rodgers right now for. 920 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 5: Who would deserve to be on this island. Yeah, show 921 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 5: it to me. Everyone's excited because he's he's winning in 922 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 5: practice and everything. 923 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 2: He struggled in famer who got hurt? 924 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 5: I get it, But he played through the injury in 925 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 5: twenty twenty two and he played worse than Genus of 926 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 5: that year. So that was the last time they were 927 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 5: both on the field together. I don't want to make 928 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 5: it about Gino. What I mean is, like I think, 929 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 5: if you really look at his twenty twenty two season, 930 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 5: he would not have been one of the top twelve quarterbacks. 931 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 5: He wasn't top twelve in any possible metric that you 932 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 5: could use, whether it was PFF, whether if it was 933 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 5: qbr DVA. Like in my eyeballs, he was good that year. 934 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 5: But not great. My eyeballs eyeball, So he's got to 935 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,240 Speaker 5: prove it. He's no, you're the deciding vote here, Jeorgane. 936 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 3: I know, and I gotta tell you I had him 937 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 3: as a yes. But Greg, I think you convinced me 938 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 3: on a no. 939 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 4: There we go. 940 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 3: But Steve, I'm giving you. Do we have time, Steve 941 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 3: for one more? Do you have any could you could 942 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 3: you pull me back to your side? Here? Is there any? 943 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I love being wound. 944 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 6: My whole thing is my thing. The whole thing is 945 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 6: very simple. I mean last year what they won seven games? Yeah, 946 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 6: with Joe Donut and Jack Rabbit playing quarterback. Right, if 947 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers was healthy, they're going to the playoffs in 948 00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 6: a very tough AFC. 949 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 2: But Greg is thinking, you know that Aaron's gonna come 950 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 2: in there and have a one to one. 951 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 5: No, I think it'll be fine. I think it'll be fine. 952 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 5: I mean I don't think it's I mean, I'm just 953 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 5: sitting here. 954 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 3: I mean, maybe I can see Greg's starting to maybe. 955 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,800 Speaker 2: I'd be dazzled by my whole. 956 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think it's cool that you just 957 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 5: called Tim Boyle, Joe Donut or oh Trevor Simeon. 958 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 3: Yes, Timporton, Am I right? 959 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I I no, come on. 960 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 5: The only reason I would put him on right now 961 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 5: is because he'd be a fun guy to kick off later. 962 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 2: But that's what is You're such a Patriots fam. 963 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 5: No, I'm just having fun, all right. 964 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 3: I'm putting him on. 965 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 2: What yes, thank you? 966 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 3: I might I might kick him off later, but I'm 967 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 3: putting him on. 968 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 2: All right. 969 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,439 Speaker 5: We just put three in from that division. That means 970 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 5: we have nine. It's gonna get we have real crowded 971 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson is on on, Joe Burrow is on. 972 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, suddenly we're up to eleven. We have only 973 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 2: one spot left. Because you mean between two guys. 974 00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 5: No, between two divisions and two guys that the stealers 975 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,240 Speaker 5: don't have an option between Justin Fields and Russell Wilson. 976 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 5: We can all say no, right, no, So I think 977 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 5: that was the no that was. It wasn't that he's on. 978 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 5: Well either way, that's. 979 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 3: A not You know what though, when we hold up 980 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 3: upside down, it does stay. 981 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 4: On for the first couple options. 982 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 3: Cat than just getting really heated. 983 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 5: We're starting to we gotta we gotta pick. 984 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 2: It up here. 985 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 4: I don't know who that bows for. We're there is 986 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 4: one for you. 987 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 5: Steelers is a no stealers is absolutely no Deshaun Watson. 988 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 5: Does he deserve any conversation? 989 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 2: Negative? No, he's not on. 990 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 6: No quarterback or no player coming into twenty twenty four 991 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 6: has more of a spotlight on him than Deshaun Watson. 992 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 6: We could talk about Aaron Rodgers or anything else. The 993 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 6: fact that the Houston Texas have gotten fat off of 994 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 6: the draft picks they got from Deshaun watching trade and 995 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 6: the fact that the Cleveland Browns will be them a 996 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:53,879 Speaker 6: playoff team have gotten no ROI okay, number four the 997 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 6: island lists, Yeah, the mainland Deshaun Watson. 998 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the pressure he's not on the island. 999 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,240 Speaker 5: It is just crazy. All the Browns fans and Watson, 1000 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 5: everyone say. 1001 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 2: Why are you? Why are you so tough on Watson? 1002 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 5: Like you're just a hater. 1003 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 2: It's like that's a real split audience up there, because 1004 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 2: the whole I'm. 1005 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 5: Just saying, like, at what point have you seen anyone 1006 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 5: resembling the quarterback he was in Houston? Because as much 1007 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 5: as I don't like it, if you saw that quarterback 1008 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 5: for about three straight weeks, everyone like me would shut up. 1009 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 5: They would have to. They wouldn't, They wouldn't like it, 1010 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 5: but they would have to. But that quarterback hasn't been 1011 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 5: there so yet, we don't need to talk about it. 1012 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 2: Uh, CJ. 1013 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 5: Stroud does he take any conversation or is he already 1014 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 5: just like obviously on there? 1015 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 3: I think yeah he is, but we're gonna have to 1016 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 3: now kick someone off. Yeah, we're up to twelve, so 1017 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 3: well we haven't got have we. Wait, we're at twelve, 1018 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 3: so I didn't circle first. 1019 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,879 Speaker 4: CJ should be number twelve on my countra thank you. 1020 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 5: So we're up to CJ. And that was part of 1021 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 5: the reason I did not want to put Rogers on, 1022 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,280 Speaker 5: was because I knew the okay, we are so okay. 1023 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 2: So right now we basically have we have twelve guys. 1024 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 6: Ree Cannadas possibly for who are on the inflatable slide 1025 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 6: on the aircraft. 1026 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,720 Speaker 5: Okay, so let's go through the teams that are remaining. 1027 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 5: The Tennessee Titans have Will Levis, you know, no, stop 1028 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,760 Speaker 5: taking hits and the goal line. That's a no across 1029 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 5: the board. Obviously. Trevor Lawrence is an interesting no to me. 1030 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love him, though I think he's going to 1031 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 2: be hell a player. 1032 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 3: I wish I wish he's not there. 1033 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:28,839 Speaker 5: It's a disappointment. 1034 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,399 Speaker 3: I have to see him on a different team there. 1035 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 2: I would really yeah, I would too. I'm not putting it. 1036 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:35,280 Speaker 5: All on the team. 1037 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 3: I'm not putting it all on the team either. I 1038 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,720 Speaker 3: think a chain of change would be at some point 1039 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 3: fine for all parties involved. Team quarterback, like, just get 1040 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 3: just get a different system, get some different juice, get 1041 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 3: just different. 1042 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 5: Different, different building. Peterson heat. I'm picking up from Jordan 1043 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,399 Speaker 5: without her saying it. So that's interesting. I just think 1044 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 5: it's crazy that we all agree that Trevor Lawrence entering 1045 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 5: year what is this fifth year? Five is not top 1046 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,800 Speaker 5: twelve to us, show me something. I mean he showed, 1047 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 5: he showed something. He's above the Dalton line, not on 1048 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 5: the island. He's in a special it is. 1049 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 3: Above the Dalton line. 1050 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 4: We like. 1051 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 3: There's no argument about that. The Dalphin line is like 1052 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 3: the safe little like raft zone for the like if you're. 1053 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 5: Off the Bermuda triangle, that's between the Dalton line and 1054 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 5: not on the island. So this weird zone where him 1055 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 5: and Kirk Cousins are hanging out. 1056 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 3: It's not a place where you disappear though. It's a 1057 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 3: it's a safe it's a safe area. It's like Redemtion 1058 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 3: House almost. You're you're not on the island, but you 1059 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 3: are ahead of the Dalton line. That's where we pull 1060 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,280 Speaker 3: from together. 1061 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 5: Okay, Anthony Richardson is a no right now, just because 1062 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 5: we got to see it. The Raiders clearly don't. We're 1063 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 5: going to go to the AFC East and i AFC 1064 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 5: West to wrap up. The Raiders clearly don't have a quarterback, 1065 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 5: whether it's Minshew or O'Connell. You eliminated Justin Herbert. 1066 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, working like the accusation, and I. 1067 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 5: Wasn't sure about that. Executive rookies and injuries. 1068 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 3: Wait for this to play out. 1069 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 2: I just I'm I'm mccauye's gonna have one hundred can 1070 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 2: I still. 1071 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,760 Speaker 5: I think Caleb Williams deserves to be on this island. 1072 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,240 Speaker 3: I think he and Justin Herbert will be on this island. 1073 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,880 Speaker 5: You keep saying all these people will be on these 1074 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 5: Well they can't all be on the island. 1075 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 2: The island's an exclusive play. Some of these guys, some 1076 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:16,439 Speaker 2: of these guys are. 1077 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 3: Gonna, you know, we will be removing people. 1078 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 5: Okay, Bo Nicks or Jared Stidham is not an option. 1079 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 5: So we're really just down in the Hollack Wilson, Yeah, 1080 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 5: that was going down. I'm kicking your Jack Wilson take 1081 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 5: on this show from four weeks ago. 1082 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:31,320 Speaker 4: Off the island. 1083 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's can we can we punt it into space? 1084 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 2: Gone? 1085 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 5: So yeah, we got Mahomes and he's definitely going on, 1086 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 5: and you're right, I guess we only got to thirteen now. 1087 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 5: I just you know, the listeners are out there and 1088 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:50,800 Speaker 5: they know that on my Geno's on my island, Caleb's 1089 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 5: on my island. 1090 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,919 Speaker 6: Okay, So are we safe? Are we safe to make 1091 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 6: the argument that that that the slippery slope guys? 1092 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,959 Speaker 2: Okay? So we only have to kick one guy off. 1093 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 2: You're golf Jordan Love. 1094 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 5: I don't think Jua yeah, or come. 1095 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,439 Speaker 2: On, Bra can't be on the fence like that. 1096 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 5: I don't think Jordan Love is on the fence. 1097 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 2: Okay. 1098 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 5: So because just the just the physical skill set. Also 1099 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 5: it's such a great name, too overwhelming. So Mahomes is on. 1100 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 5: We now have we now have thirteen guys on and 1101 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 5: I hate to do this for the first time in 1102 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,959 Speaker 5: the history of QBA, and this will be the first 1103 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 5: time and the only time ever that we populated from scratch. 1104 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 5: From now on, they're hanging out there. 1105 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 2: They're having. 1106 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're having the night where they get to what 1107 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 5: do they say when you bring in your your wife 1108 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 5: conjugal visits? You know, like like in jail, they bring 1109 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 5: on the significant others come on to. 1110 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,839 Speaker 3: The Quarterback Island is a wonderful place open to all. 1111 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 5: No I know, but you know it's like, but one 1112 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 5: guy has to get kicked out. 1113 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:54,879 Speaker 2: So we're playing white lotus here. 1114 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 3: Everything's fine until it's super not okay. 1115 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 5: So Pretty, I'm gonna say, Pretty has to stay on. 1116 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 5: He's got anythings I think I think I'm saying. So 1117 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 5: it's down to Rogers too and Jared Goff. Can we agree? 1118 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 6: At least those are the three I would agree with that, 1119 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,959 Speaker 6: And to me, I'm gonna go ahead and this Jared 1120 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 6: Goff of those guys, would be the guy I. 1121 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:17,399 Speaker 2: Have to pull. 1122 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,280 Speaker 5: Why is that. 1123 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 6: I'm not pulling to him? And I'm not I'm not 1124 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,760 Speaker 6: pulling Aaron Rodgers. When you look at this list right now, 1125 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 6: he's the only well him and Mahomes is the first 1126 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:29,840 Speaker 6: bout Hall of Famer. 1127 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 2: But it's not about the Hall of Fame though, it's 1128 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:33,720 Speaker 2: not about the Hall of Fame. 1129 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 3: About your you said it at the top of the show, 1130 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 3: what is it to be a quarterback? Right now? 1131 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1132 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 6: Defined, Okay, okay, So let's let's let's let me throw 1133 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 6: this out there. If you're looking at our candidates on there, 1134 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 6: who is the most likely of these guys are not 1135 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 6: likely to not win an MVP or at least be 1136 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 6: in the MVP conversation this year? Well, and let's say 1137 00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 6: with Jery Goff, two are Aaron Rodgers, Which one of 1138 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 6: those three is most likely to not be an MVP competition? 1139 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 2: It's m. 1140 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 5: I don't know, because I actually it's a tough question. 1141 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 5: I don't know if I have like an obvious things. 1142 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 5: I feel like we have to eliminate because remember Rodgers 1143 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 5: versus one of those guys makes sense. But someone we 1144 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 5: should decide between Tua and GoF who's safe because to me, 1145 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 5: they're kind of in the same category. 1146 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,800 Speaker 6: I guess like Tua wasn't that conversation for like twelve 1147 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 6: weeks last year. Jared Goff was in it for like 1148 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 6: maybe one or two, And I mean, I'm just this 1149 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 6: is all this is last year solely and again like 1150 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 6: this is painful because I love Jared, But I mean, 1151 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 6: I'm just saying, I. 1152 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 5: Think we got to decide before we decide between the three, 1153 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,399 Speaker 5: we have to decide between two and GoF who's safe 1154 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 5: because to me, they're those two are in the same category. 1155 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 5: You know this the system and kind of what they're 1156 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 5: ceiling has been really so I think we have to 1157 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 5: say one of those two is safe and then just 1158 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 5: decide between them and Rogers who is getting kicked off. 1159 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 5: I don't have a strong take. I lean towards Tua 1160 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 5: because if I was starting a team, I think I 1161 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 5: feel like I love watching Jared Goff spin the ball, 1162 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 5: and I actually think I would prefer to have Golf. 1163 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 5: I just feel a little more comfortable with Jared Goff 1164 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 5: than Toua. But I could be convinced. 1165 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 3: What do you think? I, oh, man, this is tough. 1166 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:22,879 Speaker 3: The inventor of the game suddenly Sophie's choice. Oh my god. 1167 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 3: I gotta say, if if I'm building an offense, I 1168 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,720 Speaker 3: would really want to build it the way the Lions 1169 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 3: have built their team. I love all the speed that 1170 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 3: Miami has. I I stand by my take. Look at 1171 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 3: Steve Space. 1172 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 2: No, no, I'm listening. 1173 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 6: I'm interested. I no, no, I'm reading it. I'm reading 1174 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 6: Let's go. 1175 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 3: No. 1176 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 2: No, Here's how Jordan's thinking. 1177 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 6: Okay, twenty two Offenser, run too tight, two tailbacks, and 1178 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 6: they're gonna throw a go pattern to I'm already Saint 1179 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 6: Bron out of a run formation. 1180 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 2: That's how she's thinking. 1181 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so, but that literally is what my brain 1182 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 3: was doing. You're the best, Steve, Okay, so I am, 1183 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 3: And if it comes down to me over, I have 1184 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 3: to think about the durability factor. I love for Tua 1185 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 3: that he is healthy. I love for Tua that he 1186 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 3: came back from some horrible stuff mentally and physically. I 1187 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 3: love that for him. Jared Goff came back from some 1188 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 3: horribly mental stuff as well. Jared Goff has improved over time, 1189 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,279 Speaker 3: particularly when he has been at the correct pace, with 1190 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 3: the team growing around him, with the OC, with the 1191 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 3: protection he is. I'm not punishing. I'm not gonna punish 1192 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,399 Speaker 3: either of these guys for succeeding with the players around 1193 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 3: them and also everyone lifting each other in many many ways. 1194 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 3: Jared Goff with the durability, I think I got a 1195 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 3: lean toward Jared Goff's staying because of that durability. 1196 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 2: Okay, good, good argument. So I'm out. 1197 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 6: So two is off, but I'm I'm keeping Tua on 1198 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 6: because if Tua got to play thirteen games in domes, 1199 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 6: which Jared. 1200 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 2: Goff gets to do this, Yeah, I love it. 1201 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 5: Two is known for five thousand Okay, So I think 1202 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 5: we've determined, and I didn't feel that strong about this. 1203 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:01,399 Speaker 3: I'd rather have two. 1204 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 5: I think you'd rather have to. 1205 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,360 Speaker 3: Guys, let me do Greg's face, I said over time, 1206 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 3: I'd rather. 1207 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,359 Speaker 2: Have who's on QB Island, Jordan. 1208 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 3: Jared I already said, Jared, Yeah, you guys have golf 1209 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 3: to to us on QB Island. 1210 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 5: What we've determined, Jared Goff is on QB Island. He's 1211 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,439 Speaker 5: staying on QB Island to find out who does get 1212 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,320 Speaker 5: thrown off the island. Come back. Right after the break, 1213 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 5: we are back on QB Island, and frankly, we had 1214 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 5: to get back quickly before Steve made any more politic 1215 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 5: thing and trading votes and feelings are getting hurt. 1216 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 2: Old called whipping votes man. 1217 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:07,320 Speaker 5: And we've determined Jared Goff, I believe season the island, 1218 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,320 Speaker 5: and it's down to Aaron into a tone of bylow 1219 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 5: and before. Yeah, we do determine who's getting kicked off 1220 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 5: and who gets to start the season on QB Island. 1221 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,800 Speaker 5: This is going to be something we revisit often during 1222 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 5: the season. We're gonna talk on the show. I think 1223 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 5: Tuesdays would be a great day for it. Well maybe 1224 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,839 Speaker 5: not every Tuesday, but pretty semi regularly. We'll revisit who 1225 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,919 Speaker 5: deserves to come onto the island, who deserves to get 1226 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,839 Speaker 5: kicked off the island. Will be our way of kind 1227 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 5: of talking about the quarterback position of. 1228 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 4: A question about QB Island. Yes, so we often. We're 1229 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,239 Speaker 4: gonna windle this down at all, so there's gonna be 1230 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,719 Speaker 4: less spots on. We can't have twelve the whole season, right, So. 1231 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 3: We can have twelve spots the whole season because we 1232 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 3: will be adding rookies at some point. 1233 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 4: I'm saying, like some point gets the playoffs, right. 1234 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a winner, like I do. 1235 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 5: Think you've hit upon possible twists that we can add 1236 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:01,879 Speaker 5: during the season, and. 1237 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 2: At some point we need to. We're starting at twelve. 1238 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 2: That's fun willing down like the NCAA playoffs, I think. 1239 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:09,880 Speaker 5: I don't think we're gonna win all to one or anything, 1240 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 5: but I do think it doesn't have to stay twelve forever. 1241 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 5: The key is we have to surprise Jordan and not tell. 1242 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:17,319 Speaker 2: Her about it. 1243 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 4: Make it hard. 1244 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:19,560 Speaker 3: I love how this is. 1245 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 2: Greg cannot wait till. 1246 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, gregs we're expanding the list. 1247 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,320 Speaker 5: H'll earn his spot. Aaron Rodgers to a tongue of Iloa. 1248 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 5: I guess only there's only room for one right now, 1249 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 5: and shout out to Jared Goff just for you know, 1250 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 5: making it. This is a nice career achievement through a lot. 1251 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,360 Speaker 5: I don't have a hot take here because I wouldn't. 1252 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 5: I wasn't really in favor initially of either of these guys, 1253 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 5: making I had I had a couple people ahead of them. 1254 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,400 Speaker 5: I had Caleb ahead of them, I had Gino ahead 1255 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:53,799 Speaker 5: of them. I had Kirk case. 1256 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,719 Speaker 3: I know I argued for this earlier. As we kept talking, though, 1257 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 3: I just kept going back to you know, Kirk's streakiness 1258 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 3: was the reason and the Achilles together were the reason 1259 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,320 Speaker 3: why I did not put him on Quarterback Island, plus 1260 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 3: the age the Achilles. If I used it, I'm almost like, 1261 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 3: is it not fair if I used it for one 1262 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 3: to reason with one older quarterback, and they're not in 1263 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 3: the same category of talent. They're not Steve's got that 1264 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 3: face again. And if they're, I mean, they're not in 1265 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 3: the same caliber of talent Kirk and Aaron. But if 1266 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 3: I was going to argue in Achilles recovery and return 1267 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 3: for one, then it's almost like unfair for me. 1268 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 5: You won't even let poor Justin Herbert get on. 1269 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 3: I feel like, I like, I'm trying to create, like 1270 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 3: you know, rules for quarterback Island when it's going to 1271 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 3: devolve into pure nebulosity? Is that a Is that a word? 1272 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 5: Probably chaos and chaos. Steve Axe all nice, He is nice, 1273 00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 5: but you know to him his to me, my Gino 1274 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 5: is his Tua. So he's just like sticking up well 1275 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 5: to me, is Rogers defines a position where if I 1276 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 5: had to choose, I'd probably keep Rogers. Yeah, yeah, I. 1277 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 6: Mean to me, I mean, if it's between those two, 1278 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 6: I'm keeping Aaron Rodgers. The guy's got how many MVPs 1279 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 6: got Super Bowl Championship And now I know you made 1280 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 6: the argue the durability argument against Tua. Well he's been 1281 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 6: healthier than Aaron Rodgers the past. Yeah, but at the 1282 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 6: same time, I would have Tua on instead of Jared Golf. 1283 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 6: But I can't put Tua ahead of Aaron Rodgers. I 1284 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 6: cannot do that. 1285 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 3: I think that's that's a well reasoned that's that's rational. 1286 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 3: I would probably I'd probably say I'll go with Steve 1287 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 3: on this, Aaron Rodgers over Tua. 1288 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 2: But again, oh, I thought we were getting Golf off 1289 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 2: the island. 1290 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 3: If you want to reopen it, we don't have time. 1291 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 2: This is the initial this is the initial twelve. 1292 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 5: Look, there's only three of us. We're the only voters. 1293 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 5: Who are you voting off the island? Tua Golf or 1294 00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers Golf. 1295 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 2: I already told you that, but I got I got 1296 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 2: voted down. 1297 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 5: I thought I had created an alliance that was unstoppable. 1298 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 5: You go first, Greg, Well, now I'm confused. I'm I'm 1299 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:12,000 Speaker 5: voting too off. 1300 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 3: I'll vote too off. Good, But Tua will be back on. 1301 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 3: I guarantee it. 1302 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 6: He's got four people coming on so this list, So 1303 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 6: Kyler Murray is going to be on. 1304 00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 3: Jordan I said, I'm excited for him to play his way. 1305 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 3: I don't think Rogers stays there the whole year. 1306 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:32,800 Speaker 2: Okay, real quick, who who? 1307 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 5: I'm changing my vote. I'm going back to my list. 1308 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 5: I'm voting Rogers off out of those three. So now 1309 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 5: we're so now we're still maated, we're still MATD only. 1310 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 2: So let's go back to work. So we're now Tu 1311 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 2: and Rogers. 1312 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna flip flop like a freaking fish right now. 1313 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:50,600 Speaker 2: Don't you do it? Don't you do? 1314 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,440 Speaker 3: Vote Rogers off? It can come on? 1315 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, I'm. 1316 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 5: I on Survivor. I don't know how to play this game. 1317 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,439 Speaker 2: What's okay? Real quick? 1318 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 3: I kind of lost the plot, like. 1319 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,160 Speaker 2: I don't really know what's going on, like the borderline people. 1320 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, could work their way back on Kyler, Murray, kirk Cousins, Trevor, Lawrence, Rogers, Rogers. 1321 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 6: Who's gonna be the first one to work on? 1322 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 3: Between Rogers and Kyler? M okay, we're putting them in 1323 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 3: the in the safe raft. 1324 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 2: What about with kirk Cousins in there too. 1325 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 5: I think Caleb's gonna have a chance. I think Gino's 1326 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 5: gonna have a chance. It's almost harder to get on 1327 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,320 Speaker 5: the island to start with, then it will be to 1328 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 5: kick off, because it's gonna be hard one once we 1329 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 5: get there to. 1330 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 2: I think Kirk Cousins will be on. 1331 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:46,480 Speaker 5: There's a big moment for. 1332 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 2: I think Kirk Cousins, he's got a better team than 1333 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 2: those other guys. What Gino's got a good team? 1334 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 5: What a first episode of Q. Do you feel satisfied? 1335 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 5: I know we got a little confused there at the end. 1336 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:57,080 Speaker 3: I feel scared. 1337 01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 2: George did not. 1338 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 6: Right now, she's thinking about like twenty to personnel. She's 1339 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,919 Speaker 6: thinking about everything going on. She's knots right now. 1340 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 5: The final list of the players. 1341 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 3: Turns out Quarterback Island is my personal. 1342 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 5: Health on Quarterback Island. Dak Prescott, Jalen Hurts, Jared Goff, 1343 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 5: Jordan Love, Matthew Stafford, Brock Purty, Josh Allen, to a 1344 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,680 Speaker 5: tongue of Iloa, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, c J. Stroud, 1345 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 5: and Patrick Mahomes. 1346 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:32,320 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's a hell of a list. That's 1347 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 2: a freaking good list. 1348 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 5: It's a hell of a list that we're leaving Justin 1349 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 5: Herbert and Aaron Rodgers off. But I'm looking forward to 1350 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 5: discussing her. 1351 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 3: Quarterback not on it because he has an injury, Greg 1352 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:43,440 Speaker 3: and it's sending people after me. 1353 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 5: It's not a ranking Jordan want to be sure this 1354 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,120 Speaker 5: is not a ranking. We're not ranking them. She doesn't 1355 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,160 Speaker 5: like rankings, but this was a fun other way. I 1356 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 5: appreciate you guys for being here in the Chris Westling 1357 01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 5: Podcast studio got a message from one of Chris's great friends, 1358 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 5: Rosie Laney today. It was fourteen years ago today. She 1359 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 5: had put on her Facebook congratulating Chris Westling for getting 1360 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 5: a promotion at Rootal World, which I remember he was 1361 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 5: elevated to senior editor and their Dynasty Football experts I Chris. 1362 01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,919 Speaker 5: She sent that right before we came into the Chris 1363 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:24,360 Speaker 5: Wes Podcast. So just thinking of Chris Westling today and 1364 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 5: thinking about Quarterback Island. It's a lot like Tybee Island 1365 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:33,240 Speaker 5: got hakapoos. Yes, yes to Quarterback Island. We will see 1366 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,560 Speaker 5: you next time on NFL Down