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Speaker 1: to grandma. I'm gonna say it's funny. It's talking a
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Speaker 1: Risa's calling, Hello, Welcome to the Lost Culture Rista's podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm bowing and I am Matt and you guys we're
Speaker 1: on fire today. Honey, we are flaming. We are flaming
Speaker 1: bone and I are so excited. Tonight we're gonna go
Speaker 1: see Bad Mom with our previous guest of the show,
Speaker 1: Sudie Greene. Of course you know Bad Mom. So here's
Speaker 1: a question. Actually, you know what I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: who are you? Out of the Bad Mom? I think
Speaker 1: I wish I was Catherine Han, but I think I'm
Speaker 1: probably Amila. No, that's that's even too in this. No,
Speaker 1: I'm Ela and black. I think you're my mom's absolutely,
Speaker 1: she's like the type a who like reach just a
Speaker 1: breaking point, but she's like sexy too. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Han because I'm a mess yeah with no hope.
Speaker 1: But I hear Katherine Hans steals the This is like
Speaker 1: a vehicle for her. Wow. Yeah, I've been waiting for
Speaker 1: the Catherine Vehicle because we we we can talk about
Speaker 1: bad moms for the next two hours, but the fact
Speaker 1: of the matter is we have a guest, and we
Speaker 1: have He's a hurricane of a guest. Hurricane of a guest.
Speaker 1: Let's go through his credits. Oh, I love the credits.
Speaker 1: You know. He's the co creator of Lake Homo ha
Speaker 1: is the co creator of Live on broad Gay. He
Speaker 1: just had his solo show, Sam's Big Day. Oh, excellent show.
Speaker 1: I went to go see. It was wonderful. He's the
Speaker 1: co host, one of the co hosts of Future Forms
Speaker 1: Yes previously Cube Yes, wonderful institution in Brooklyn. Absolutely, and
Speaker 1: he ascendance is something we love to watch. The stars
Speaker 1: rising bitch and on three his name be one to
Speaker 1: three taggery am good. I love it. I'm truly incredible, Sam.
Speaker 1: I mean, what an honor it is to have you.
Speaker 1: Our hats are falling, so those who those of you
Speaker 1: listening at home, and Sam just found this out because
Speaker 1: we put it right on his head and we are
Speaker 1: rocking out these hats. Culture hats were on a culture expedition.
Speaker 1: We feel very official in them. When we're here to
Speaker 1: scour culture. It's lost cultures. Do Sam is here to
Speaker 1: help us today? And I mean there's so much happening
Speaker 1: in the culture. Absolutely, Um, Sam. Before we dive into
Speaker 1: culture of the current day, UM, contemporary culture, contemporaneous culture,
Speaker 1: we want to ask you, as modern Absolutely, we want
Speaker 1: to ask you, like we ask all of our guests,
Speaker 1: what is culture that shaped you? That's such a good question.
Speaker 1: What made Sam Sam? That's so smart that particular question
Speaker 1: I love, Like, that's actually really smart. The lady you
Speaker 1: said that I have a way with where it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really smart way. Uh. I I would say I
Speaker 1: was formed pretty heavily by Midwestern suburban culture. A lot
Speaker 1: of cheeseburgers in my in my life, a lot of
Speaker 1: video games in in half finished basements, if you will,
Speaker 1: I have a question what video games were you into? Specifically?
Speaker 1: You know, I uh couldn't get enough of like your classics,
Speaker 1: your Mortal Kombats as I grew up, it was Halo,
Speaker 1: you know, So you were liked Were you a PlayStation
Speaker 1: kid or I was a PlayStation kid? See I was.
Speaker 1: That's kind of like I was an N sixty four kid.
Speaker 1: And I think that does shape the way you are
Speaker 1: life about your life, Yeah, I'd say PlayStation people are
Speaker 1: a little more critical. I'd say PlayStation people become republicans.
Speaker 1: I'm a PlayStation person, and I am a republican critical republican.
Speaker 1: Um Listen, Like, I used to play a mess straight
Speaker 1: up area all the do dot day, and then I
Speaker 1: feel like I used to like cartoons video games like
Speaker 1: Marryo Your Donkey Kong loved it, and then once video
Speaker 1: games started to take themselves too seriously, I was like,
Speaker 1: no fun. You see, that's when I finally got on board.
Speaker 1: Just a little cartoon, No thank you, wake me up
Speaker 1: when there's a whole world to explode. Yeah. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: could argue PlayStation much more sophisticated than before in terms
Speaker 1: of themes. Well, that's an interesting point that Matt just
Speaker 1: brought up with video games, because I mean kids nowadays
Speaker 1: are growing up with you know, their over watches, and
Speaker 1: they're just all these mature games, and it's it's too
Speaker 1: ahead of their time, you got it. We we grew
Speaker 1: up in a time when video games matched our growth, Like,
Speaker 1: we grew up around really cartoony kid from the games,
Speaker 1: and now everything's just rated M for mature. It's a mess.
Speaker 1: So I think it's a mess rate and M for
Speaker 1: goddamn mess and keep us guys. What is Halo? Oh
Speaker 1: my god? I simply love it. So I took a
Speaker 1: break for a while to pursue comedy, but I've I've
Speaker 1: recently come back to it because you've given up comedy.
Speaker 1: You can only do one. You can boy or a
Speaker 1: comedy boy. You can't be both boys. God no, uh,
Speaker 1: you know it's I'm always the worst. I play online
Speaker 1: and I'm always the worst. This is as like as
Speaker 1: of last week, I started replaying video games, and uh
Speaker 1: I I get last place, but I have the most fun.
Speaker 1: I feel. Yeah, I know that. You know what, That's
Speaker 1: a good mental exercises playing online when you know you're
Speaker 1: going to be beat by like some fourteen year old
Speaker 1: kid um but still enjoying it. Because I would go
Speaker 1: into that situation saying like I hate this, I don't
Speaker 1: like losing. You know. Well, it's it's what's your kind
Speaker 1: of idea of fun? Is it burned the world or
Speaker 1: is it win the game? I think that's like also
Speaker 1: a life question. My idea of fun is being immersed baby,
Speaker 1: like being immersed in the world. Honey, that's my idea
Speaker 1: of fun. It's like when you play Grand Theft Auto,
Speaker 1: you that person that's like sucking the hookers and killing
Speaker 1: everyone with your car or are you trying to actually like,
Speaker 1: I'm playing whatever I played for the story until like
Speaker 1: I get bored, like yeah, and which is happens? I
Speaker 1: have like an hour limit, you know on story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, a big long TV show worth and then
Speaker 1: I start doing the hooker stuff. Yeah. And then when
Speaker 1: in doubt hooker, you pick up the hooker and you
Speaker 1: listen to them. Fuck. That was like when Grand Theft
Speaker 1: Auto first came out. It was like my cousin was
Speaker 1: always like, Okay, this is what we're gonna do. We're
Speaker 1: going to find a hooker and we're going to watch
Speaker 1: the car go up and down and listen to them. Fuck.
Speaker 1: It was like, and with that same cousin, I watched
Speaker 1: gay porn. You have to okay, go ahead, wait, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: he has to expound upon. Well, I have a streak
Speaker 1: straight as anyone. Wild remain nameless. But when we were young,
Speaker 1: I remember like it was my first like experience with pornography,
Speaker 1: and we definitely watched some straight stuff for a little while,
Speaker 1: and then he was like, you want to see something
Speaker 1: really fucked up and gross, and he bought brought out
Speaker 1: the gay porn. It was the first time I saw
Speaker 1: with my eyes a dick in an ass and I
Speaker 1: was like, what they do that? And he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course they do, That's how they have sex. And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. And then I guess
Speaker 1: I had like a boner because he goes, if you
Speaker 1: have a boner right now, it means that you're gay,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't have a bonner. I
Speaker 1: assure you, I don't. I don't even think I knew
Speaker 1: what an direction was, but I vividly remember that being
Speaker 1: very confused as to like why I wanted to keep
Speaker 1: watching gay porn and being shocked when I saw like
Speaker 1: what gay sex really was. I think it's very telling
Speaker 1: that he like was eager to introduce it to you.
Speaker 1: But it's he's playing the game to burn the world,
Speaker 1: not win the game with with porn. Sometimes that's how
Speaker 1: people live their lives, is what I'm saying. What is
Speaker 1: he still straight? But yes he has a lovely girlfriend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like, honestly, no, I really don't think so. I've
Speaker 1: never I'm pretty positive I think it was just the
Speaker 1: thing of like we're looking at stuff on the internet
Speaker 1: because the internet's knew, baby, it's not two thousand one.
Speaker 1: That was like part of being a young boy, you know,
Speaker 1: pulling up gay porn and going like this sucks, especially
Speaker 1: when you grew up where I grew up, like a
Speaker 1: long island, when you hate everything. Yeah, that's not I
Speaker 1: feel like it's like in the same world. It's the
Speaker 1: same instinct as like showing each other. Do you guys
Speaker 1: do do you guys have a friend? You would show
Speaker 1: each other your dicks too? Well, my gay friends, I mean,
Speaker 1: but are they getting I mean, like, did you grow
Speaker 1: up like growing up you like he gay? Are these
Speaker 1: friends gay? Now? Yeah? Cool, that's cool. I showed my
Speaker 1: dick to my two friends at lunch in second grade. Wow.
Speaker 1: Nice because they were like showing to us. It was
Speaker 1: it's you're right, it's not a gay thing at all.
Speaker 1: It's like a little boy thing. It's like we have dicks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's just a boy thing. Sure, you're just excited
Speaker 1: about having a dick and what it could be. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But even like as like a like a nine year
Speaker 1: old I want to say, showing like like me and
Speaker 1: his kid going into the basement while our parents talked
Speaker 1: upstairs and like showing each other our decks and just
Speaker 1: like rubbing them against one another. I was like, seriously
Speaker 1: nine years old. Um, but I was like I obviously
Speaker 1: didn't have the hormones to be like, oh this is high,
Speaker 1: I like this, But I was like, this is fun.
Speaker 1: It feels good, it feels good. Um. I also, well,
Speaker 1: I remember I had a really close friend when I
Speaker 1: was in middle school, and I was really positive that
Speaker 1: we were going to hook up, but we and we
Speaker 1: were best friends. We had have like sleep over the
Speaker 1: same room, and I was like, what is happening? But
Speaker 1: then we were just best friends. I think that. I
Speaker 1: think that, like there are some like truly truly good
Speaker 1: straight male souls out there who truly just want to
Speaker 1: be friends, good people and don't see us his bodies.
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, that is a boy sleepover thing. Though
Speaker 1: even in like the sixth grade, we would all take
Speaker 1: off our clothes and run out in the yard naked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: boy sleepovers were so sexy. Sure there was a lot
Speaker 1: going on, because nothing's hotter than then when you're a
Speaker 1: twelve year old boy around a bunch of year old boys.
Speaker 1: I remember I went to Frost Valley on a field
Speaker 1: trip and the kids sat on my face. You can't
Speaker 1: throw out names like Frost Valley and Frost has potential
Speaker 1: to be a new gay mecca literally, Okay, so what
Speaker 1: it was it should be? I need to go to
Speaker 1: Fireline for the first time, the gay part of the way.
Speaker 1: I've only been to the straight part of Filine on,
Speaker 1: which I know is like heinous. Yeah, I mean to
Speaker 1: kill myself after hearing that. Let me yes, but we
Speaker 1: should have first make sure everyone at home knows that
Speaker 1: Bowen and Sam are fire Island kind of sores celebrities,
Speaker 1: even of the I would say. I would say my
Speaker 1: kimono was a hit and a Kimona like you didn't
Speaker 1: even see any of the I was honestly probably too
Speaker 1: mad that I was missing out. I was like, Sam's
Speaker 1: going in in August and I'm gonna go in for
Speaker 1: day trip. Coming. You should come with me. I will
Speaker 1: definitely do a day definitely fun. It's heaven. I want
Speaker 1: to go. I mean I want to go, not even sexually.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's like it's heaven. It's heaven on earth.
Speaker 1: It's just you. You feel so safe and so it's
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. Also, I would love to go to Peatown.
Speaker 1: Have you been to Petown? See? David Mazzoni says, it's
Speaker 1: like Disney World. We literally the three of us went
Speaker 1: to disney World and we're walking down and Street, USA
Speaker 1: and damn, Zny goes, this is just like Pizzo. I
Speaker 1: was like, go fuck yourself. Oh my god, nothing to
Speaker 1: compare to Disney World. Wait, is Disney World really gay?
Speaker 1: Is this well of courses? It's so gay? Gay Days?
Speaker 1: We should go for Gay Days. I would love There's nothing,
Speaker 1: literally nothing. If I achieved this, I'll feel like I
Speaker 1: could die. Is if every gay person I know went
Speaker 1: to Gay Days? It was so fun. So Sam's like
Speaker 1: less excited. I don't know. Make the event, put it
Speaker 1: on Facebook and we'll see what's happening. Can I tell
Speaker 1: you guys what Frost Valley was? Okay, So Frost Valley
Speaker 1: was like when you got to sixth grade. This was
Speaker 1: like the field trip that that my middle school went on.
Speaker 1: It was um three days of sleepaway field trip um
Speaker 1: at this like excursion camp at Upstate in New York.
Speaker 1: Basically it was like a project adventure course that was huge.
Speaker 1: It was basically every day you went out into the
Speaker 1: to the like cold wilderness and like did activities and
Speaker 1: did team building stuff. And honestly, it was it got
Speaker 1: there because of course sixth grade, which is just when
Speaker 1: you've been like, oh wait, we are sexual. It's like
Speaker 1: you have a lot of energy. It's like when it's
Speaker 1: when you jack off, it's not a mistake anymore. It
Speaker 1: was still a mistake, right, So did you did you?
Speaker 1: Did things get steaming with you and someone else? A well?
Speaker 1: I actually was like courting a female at the time
Speaker 1: who was in like one of the other bunks, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, she's dating my friend Joey.
Speaker 1: And that girl ends up, she ends up she's lesbian. Now.
Speaker 1: I think if every story doesn't end with and turns
Speaker 1: out she's lesbian. Now, I really don't care about what
Speaker 1: you said. And Joey m a sexual just for symmetry,
Speaker 1: he's engaged to a woman. But I will say, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it got crazy, Like there comes a point when boys
Speaker 1: that age around each other and it reaches a fever
Speaker 1: pitch where they have to like sexually show something. I
Speaker 1: remember the kid fucking sat on my face. It was like,
Speaker 1: what was he wearing his boxers, and I remember going
Speaker 1: like dizzy. I was like, what's happening to me? Okay,
Speaker 1: but you enjoyed it, because I don't enjoy primarily. I think,
Speaker 1: yes I did, but like at the time, I was like, no,
Speaker 1: this kid is definitely bullying, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's mean.
Speaker 1: It was like I was in bed and he was
Speaker 1: like I heard like giggling around me, and then some
Speaker 1: kid was sitting on my face. She were asleep, and
Speaker 1: he just like and I think he was like, suck
Speaker 1: mind dick, suck mind dick, and everyone was laughing, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh God. And then honestly it was fine,
Speaker 1: like fifteen minutes later and they all moved on. But
Speaker 1: like that's the way the boys that age act like
Speaker 1: it is like a thing, like it is really funny
Speaker 1: for him to for him to chance stuck my deck
Speaker 1: stuck my dick at that age. But I wish I
Speaker 1: hope that in the future people in that generation, kids
Speaker 1: in that generation kids, and that the future generations will
Speaker 1: laugh at that for the right reasons and and laugh
Speaker 1: at that because it's like gay sex is funny but
Speaker 1: not mockable, or they'll just suck each other's dicks because
Speaker 1: they want to and they're powered, and they're gay and
Speaker 1: being gay is normal. They're just like comfortable with their
Speaker 1: own bodies and absolutely, yes, I love I think that's
Speaker 1: so powerful. I think that what we're doing is a service.
Speaker 1: I think all the little eleven year old gays listening
Speaker 1: to this, who who really look up to Bowen? Shout
Speaker 1: out to Chat, shout out to Trevor, shout out to Unique. Unique.
Speaker 1: I love Unique. He's a fashion icon, complete icon. He's
Speaker 1: literally actually this is a fact. His his body is
Speaker 1: more scarfed than human love. It's fused. This person isn't real,
Speaker 1: to be clear, I hope there is. I'm sure there
Speaker 1: is some like big brother thing for gays, and I
Speaker 1: would do that, big a little guy, big a little guy.
Speaker 1: I would love to mentor a little gay boy, same,
Speaker 1: I would. I would enjoy that. Would you want to
Speaker 1: do that? Sam? I mean for sure? But I feel
Speaker 1: like it's hard because you don't know, like like when
Speaker 1: you're like thirteen, you're like, am I gay? Or just
Speaker 1: like super horny and weird? Like that's yeah, That's why
Speaker 1: I'm doubting that those little boys, now the little queer boys,
Speaker 1: were voting and like, but maybe this is a phase.
Speaker 1: Maybe people just aren't are Honestly, this is sometimes the
Speaker 1: way I feel a bad it. People don't want to
Speaker 1: don't really care about like putting a label on their sexualitymore,
Speaker 1: and they're just being the way they are. And maybe
Speaker 1: if we there were no societal expectations and there were
Speaker 1: no gender limitations and there were no like bullshit, people
Speaker 1: would just be voguing because Vogue is great, that was smart,
Speaker 1: that was beautiful. I'm really smart and beautiful. You should
Speaker 1: have said that. At the d nd they turned two
Speaker 1: people away from speaking, Me and Nina Turner, Nina Babe.
Speaker 1: Who was Nina Turner? That is a problematic question. You
Speaker 1: need to get Turner as the senator who was like
Speaker 1: um advocating for burning and she was slated to speak
Speaker 1: at the d n C to kind of like tell
Speaker 1: everyone what the truth was and like business, and then basically,
Speaker 1: you know, she was not allowed to speak. She was
Speaker 1: directed away. Well that's that's that sucks that she was
Speaker 1: silenced despite you know, even though she as a Burnie supporter,
Speaker 1: as a Hilary supporter, I looked down on her. But
Speaker 1: I want to say the woman who slammed the gavel
Speaker 1: in the first night. She's the mayor of Baltimore, and
Speaker 1: she made that she like had that giftable moment where
Speaker 1: she made a face before she's in the gavel. I
Speaker 1: was on her Instagram, guess who guess what She's obsessed
Speaker 1: with drag Race and why I wish Pokemon goo but
Speaker 1: she loves She's like, she took a picture and she
Speaker 1: post and she's like, look, She's like, I've been watching
Speaker 1: drag Race too much. Look at me. I'm giving you
Speaker 1: Alyssa Edwards. And I was like, this said the words
Speaker 1: giving you Edwards and she tagged Alyssa Edwards and she
Speaker 1: was like, the mayor of Baltimore. Can you imagine the
Speaker 1: female black mayor of Baltimore loves drag Race. I'm like,
Speaker 1: they're dream and everyone would if society didn't tell straight man.
Speaker 1: Not sure everyone would love because it's the best, it's
Speaker 1: the best. Sam still hasn't gotten on it. I just haven't.
Speaker 1: I didn't come here to be publicly shamed. Well that's
Speaker 1: literally what we do here, Okay, video games and burgers.
Speaker 1: I mean that sounds pretty right to me. I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it. What state was your upbringing. It was
Speaker 1: all around the Midwest and a little in the South.
Speaker 1: I moved every two to three years. Really, really, did
Speaker 1: you ever tell me why? Uh? My dad just got
Speaker 1: a lot of different jobs. He kept moving jobs and
Speaker 1: would be like, this is the last time we're going
Speaker 1: to move, and then two years later would be like,
Speaker 1: we're moving. I had this thought, Um, I was with
Speaker 1: my family this second, and then we were just like
Speaker 1: looking at our old houses on Google Maps and they're
Speaker 1: doing street view and it was like a weird moment.
Speaker 1: But then I realized that I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: us moving a lot, Like was it forced us to
Speaker 1: like really adjust to two different social situations. And I
Speaker 1: think I think it's valuable. I think it helped. Do
Speaker 1: you think it helped you? I think it helped, but
Speaker 1: almost in like a psycho way, like I feel very
Speaker 1: almost like a little impersonal, like I just say what
Speaker 1: needs to be said to like just like have people
Speaker 1: like me enough, don't worry about that at all here.
Speaker 1: But I think that that's really interesting. Like actually, I
Speaker 1: had this conversation today because my eight no, my ten
Speaker 1: year old cousin UH has to move to another house
Speaker 1: and he's really upset and I moved when I was nine,
Speaker 1: and I actually think it was a good thing for me.
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know. I mean, I can't speak
Speaker 1: to moving like fucking eight or nine times like that
Speaker 1: sounds like that was really hard. But moving one time
Speaker 1: I actually think was good because it did put you
Speaker 1: in a situation where like, okay, you know, you gotta
Speaker 1: like figure it out again, like and that's good for
Speaker 1: a kid, I think ye. For me, it was so
Speaker 1: it was so easy to manipulate the situation, like by
Speaker 1: like the fifth move, you're like, okay, just wear a
Speaker 1: cool shirt, like talk to this kid who's like an asshole,
Speaker 1: who you're not gonna like in a year, but he'll
Speaker 1: like make it so you don't get bullied. Just kind
Speaker 1: of go. You just figured out how to play the game, right, Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And what you didn't mention is that you had a
Speaker 1: different name at every school. Sure, well we don't know
Speaker 1: about Sam is that his name is really Oscar and
Speaker 1: he's Yeah, a lot of people don't know that about me,
Speaker 1: that Scott, it's me Oscar Herrera. The thing is he
Speaker 1: had a change his name because he couldn't say that,
Speaker 1: he couldn't say he couldn't like Oscar her It was
Speaker 1: the first move and then he learned his lasting was like,
Speaker 1: oh I should I should be able to pronounce my
Speaker 1: own name. That's true, Yeah, um, that's I Honestly, I
Speaker 1: hadn't really thought through the video game thing and how
Speaker 1: about how it shaped me? And I'm not happy that
Speaker 1: I did. Well. Listen, you know what video games shaped
Speaker 1: me were a final fantasy games. I was gonna ask
Speaker 1: about that one too. That one's very narrative, right, It's
Speaker 1: it's completely narrative, which is it's like a forty hour
Speaker 1: long movie. It's the best, so I you know, and
Speaker 1: now they're a little they have an aged well, so
Speaker 1: if you go back and play them now, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna like them, I think, which part why hasn't because
Speaker 1: it's just the storytelling conventions are very melodramatic. But it
Speaker 1: might be fun as long as you know it's a
Speaker 1: product of the times, and you like play them again
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, this is very nineties, like this
Speaker 1: this emotion melodramas the best though melodramas in but back,
Speaker 1: but even if you play it now, it's like it's
Speaker 1: it's crazy paste. It's like, oh, funk. Like someone's mom
Speaker 1: died within the first like five hours, which is like short.
Speaker 1: It's like it's very quick. So anyway, um, final Fantasy
Speaker 1: shaped me. That's that's just my two cents. People's mom
Speaker 1: die in that thing. Um like like like characters die
Speaker 1: and like love interest die. It's it's it's it's dramatic.
Speaker 1: They based on what PlayStation they're playing with dark themes
Speaker 1: Republicans critical absolutely dark dark dark dark moment. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I'd rather just like hop on a fucking boh hop
Speaker 1: on a box and get growing real big and being
Speaker 1: a big Mario for like fifteen seconds and be able
Speaker 1: to kill lots of things and they becomes small again.
Speaker 1: That makes sense to me. That checks out. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean there's a time in a place, but you gotta
Speaker 1: grow up sometime. Absolutely, I'm happy that. Actually, you know what,
Speaker 1: I did play a lot of first person shooters when
Speaker 1: I was little. I'm not gonna lie now, I'm really
Speaker 1: kind of grossed out by them, but I did. I
Speaker 1: was all about that Golden I Ship. I loved that game.
Speaker 1: I knew, but I I still remember some like facts
Speaker 1: about automatic weapons I should know, like because that game
Speaker 1: like taught me about it. It was really our babysitter
Speaker 1: are like our nanny, let us play it. So anyway,
Speaker 1: UM say, I feel like music is a big part
Speaker 1: of your Oh yes, okay, well there's uh so uh
Speaker 1: as everyone does. I had a cool cousins that would
Speaker 1: come to town and be very judgmental of the fact
Speaker 1: that I enjoyed maybe um Backstreet Boys. Uh. And so
Speaker 1: these cool cousins they you know, at a very young age,
Speaker 1: for like, but have you heard not his maush? And
Speaker 1: so then I was like, I'm gonna out cool these
Speaker 1: cool cousins. So I made it my passion to learn
Speaker 1: it's like cool music like so that the next time
Speaker 1: they would come, I would be actually had every eleven
Speaker 1: year old oh man, that was such a thing too,
Speaker 1: Like when were that age and like you were asked
Speaker 1: what your favorite music act was and you really wanted
Speaker 1: to respond with like Backstreet Boys or like Christina Aguilera,
Speaker 1: and then someone looked over when you like what did
Speaker 1: you say? And you're just crossing out frantically right, Like
Speaker 1: I meant Limp Biscuit, like because it Limp Biscuit I remember,
Speaker 1: was like the coolest thing. Yeah, I guess. So I
Speaker 1: feel like my Yeah, I'm still you know, constantly torn
Speaker 1: between your pop hits, your coolness. But even for you,
Speaker 1: you have a very you have very discriminating taste when
Speaker 1: it comes to popet either love it or hate it.
Speaker 1: Talk about talk about this because because you're talking to
Speaker 1: the right and this is this is perfect. Sure, well
Speaker 1: we know Sam's would number one right now? Is Ariana
Speaker 1: so good? I actually listened to her. I listened to
Speaker 1: the song Into You probably five or six times. It's
Speaker 1: you were the first you posted on my wall and
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm calling it out a song in the summer,
Speaker 1: And at first I was like, I'm not sure, and
Speaker 1: now I think you're correct. Oh yeah, I mean, but
Speaker 1: the first time I heard it, I was like, see,
Speaker 1: this is a song that I can just picture really
Speaker 1: everyone I know like loving getting their life through it,
Speaker 1: really enjoying. It's so much that gives me. Two thousand
Speaker 1: three era Christina Aguilera vibes yes and I love my
Speaker 1: hair part of this Before Mickable, I just like, come on,
Speaker 1: its like you are crazy your teas like, you better
Speaker 1: come to me before I come to you, because if
Speaker 1: I come to you, you're gonna your Dick's gonna be real,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, kind of like it, kind of
Speaker 1: like turns it turned the sad at the end there
Speaker 1: turned to what absolutely Ariana, Ariana I love, but like hey,
Speaker 1: I it's it's more based on the person and the
Speaker 1: personality than the actually what do you hateado? Who even
Speaker 1: is she? She's just like she's no one. She should
Speaker 1: be a cashier at some shoe store. You are literally
Speaker 1: you gotta got guys. That's been really fun with him, honestly,
Speaker 1: Can I make it feel so bad for her? Make
Speaker 1: a case for her? Don't feel bad for her. She's
Speaker 1: empowered and confident and has a fucking amazing voice and
Speaker 1: looks great, and she's been through so much and she
Speaker 1: speaks to those issues. She's not gonna sound good in
Speaker 1: like two years though we to talk about starting a
Speaker 1: year ago. She's just had to do so many image
Speaker 1: changes and nothing ever sticks. That's I like her. So
Speaker 1: it's Matt and I obviously like Damian Levada, but I
Speaker 1: can acknowledge that she's just nothing's stuck yet for her,
Speaker 1: you know, And that's her issue, that's her. I think
Speaker 1: that I think that things have to I think cool
Speaker 1: for the Summer is the Ship. Yeah, but it's like
Speaker 1: you're like, who's Like I feel like everyone's just like,
Speaker 1: oh that song that I don't know who it sings.
Speaker 1: Its saying is you want to know exactly the identity
Speaker 1: of what you're hearing and who the person is is.
Speaker 1: Second you hear this one of the voice, I get that. No,
Speaker 1: I really get yeah. Yeah, Like I mean sort of
Speaker 1: kind of like push her off a bridge. But like
Speaker 1: Katie Perry, the second you hear your voice, you're like,
Speaker 1: it's Katie, that's Katy Prayer. This is a Katy Perry song, right.
Speaker 1: I feel like Demi just doesn't have that sense of
Speaker 1: identity yet. People would argue that Demi is is this
Speaker 1: generation is Kelly Clarkson, and you can just listen to
Speaker 1: it and you'd just be like, who know that they're
Speaker 1: not distinct, But you know, Kelly, this is Kelly's She's
Speaker 1: She's the treadmill queen. You've said that. It just means
Speaker 1: like she always puts in a song that's gonna make
Speaker 1: thirty five to four year old women that are just
Speaker 1: like a little overweight and have two kids be like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm getting back on the treadmill. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it, Beth, I'm gonna do it. I'm getting
Speaker 1: back on the mill because guess what I have and
Speaker 1: I am invincible and I'm gonna be stronger. Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: show you what's behind these at beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. I
Speaker 1: am miss independent. That's me, she's singing to me. I
Speaker 1: feel there you go, see that's Kelly, So you can
Speaker 1: nail that down with Kelly. With Demi, like besides cool
Speaker 1: for the summer, I feel like she's the bisexual queen
Speaker 1: of the fucking Milly. Every fucking pop star is bisexual. Truly,
Speaker 1: when I hear Demi Levado, I think of like I
Speaker 1: truly just her most iconic thing is her Sketchers ads, right, No,
Speaker 1: I have not seen I just I she is permanently
Speaker 1: like on a bus stop, like with her shoe out
Speaker 1: with like stupid purple pink lines behind her. I hate
Speaker 1: this like a skyskar See if she had like start
Speaker 1: her guns with that era that was when she wasn't
Speaker 1: specific skyscraper. I mean you know what her album, Demi
Speaker 1: where she had really don't care she had was that
Speaker 1: called heart attack A big bag. That's her. Did your
Speaker 1: bone jump on the harmony. It was beautiful beauty. I
Speaker 1: mean like, look, she's just been all over the map
Speaker 1: and I feel like that's she's not at that level yet.
Speaker 1: She needs to establish first and then branch out, you know,
Speaker 1: agree to disagree, quiz me on someone else. Selena Gomez hater,
Speaker 1: thank you horrible. Now we can started making Sames joke
Speaker 1: on the ride. What what is it? So for those
Speaker 1: of you don't know at home, I am a torgoes torgos,
Speaker 1: I have a tour guide. I'm a tour guide host.
Speaker 1: And it's a bust that goes to New York City
Speaker 1: and like we get to um the Chrysler building. In
Speaker 1: the Chrysler Building was was built at four floors per week,
Speaker 1: and you know where in Ward Trade Center was built
Speaker 1: on only one floor per week. And people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: I wonder why we build things so much slower now.
Speaker 1: I mean, we have great technology, we have high speed internet.
Speaker 1: We can make Selena Gome as a star. It has
Speaker 1: been going. It has been going like Okay, that's fun.
Speaker 1: I mean it's so specific. It's good because it's you.
Speaker 1: It's very brand for you, which is your audience is
Speaker 1: like tourists right. My audience is like fifty five year
Speaker 1: old man on a business trip from Texas who looked
Speaker 1: at me and I was like, yeah, half of them
Speaker 1: are like, who's leaning them as in? The other half
Speaker 1: are like, I think she's super talented. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: she's look a nice girl. Yeah, I have no discerning taste.
Speaker 1: She's just look a nice kid. That's lettis out. She's
Speaker 1: just like really good kid, got good kid. We've seen
Speaker 1: Matt's range on this episode. Yeah, I think he's sending
Speaker 1: this to some agents for sure. I have William Morris listening.
Speaker 1: I have girlsh listening. Shout out to c a A um,
Speaker 1: yeah everyone listening, Um, I'll take I'll take calls. Listening.
Speaker 1: Absolutely so listening. I'm trying to think of I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think of other pop stars. Oh you love it.
Speaker 1: You just started getting on board with Carly Ray. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so she is an example of queen you know. Her
Speaker 1: talent just really won over me because it's like she
Speaker 1: is also like she would be like she would be
Speaker 1: Demi Lovato's manager at the shoe store, like Demi, did
Speaker 1: you clock in? Demi is like, no, I forgot Demi.
Speaker 1: This is the third time you haven't clocked in. Payroll
Speaker 1: has done by a computer, not bandy. I can't keep
Speaker 1: catching these things. It won't happen again, better or not.
Speaker 1: I'm going back to my office too. Guys. Let's a
Speaker 1: cigarette staff shoes store. I think Carly Ray Jeffson is
Speaker 1: the manager of the shoe Star who's like a little
Speaker 1: checked out. Yeah, she works like three days a week.
Speaker 1: I think Kelly Clarkson might be the owner. Kelly Clickson
Speaker 1: is the owner that's rarely there. Yeah, she's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, this is a mos star. Yeah, and she
Speaker 1: comes in with her kids and they're running all around.
Speaker 1: And Ariana Grande is like the piste off girl who
Speaker 1: works at the front desk that's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: who's about to make it big? Who's about to like yeah,
Speaker 1: who's about to succeed in like her chosen career in
Speaker 1: this For her, it's just like a means to an end. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Gwen Stefani is like the wealthy rich, the wealthy rich,
Speaker 1: like customer who comes in and she's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: my husband's at work. I had another to do, I thought,
Speaker 1: popping into the shoe store. Lady Gaga is a box
Speaker 1: of shoes. Yeah. Yeah, Katy Perry is the woman who
Speaker 1: keeps coming in with like looking for like the restaurant
Speaker 1: next door. Where is it? I'm sorry, I just keep
Speaker 1: poking up. I'll find She comes back in ten minutes later.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm lost. Where is it? You know? Who?
Speaker 1: Like was about to make it big? Like everyone's like
Speaker 1: banking on her to make it big, Betty Who? And
Speaker 1: then I have no idea that somebody she's the one
Speaker 1: who's not in the store. She's on the store. Who
Speaker 1: got who? Who's Who's she got? Rejected? She? I think
Speaker 1: she was going to make it big, and she had
Speaker 1: that big hit song and then she came out with
Speaker 1: an album and then it just takes whatever making it
Speaker 1: biggest nothing life so farce. Listen, listen to Betty Who's album,
Speaker 1: and you like Betty Who, and then you'll get what
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Who cares that she's not like commercially successful.
Speaker 1: It's sucking Trump's America. Wow, I love it. I'm so
Speaker 1: smart and beautiful. It's incredible. Yeah, it's gotten very political.
Speaker 1: It's really cool. I'm a political voice. I'm a viral
Speaker 1: political voice. Yes, so that's that's the deal. Guys, check
Speaker 1: out at Donald's gay Trump Donald J. Trump. There's no
Speaker 1: J in it is there in the handle, there's a
Speaker 1: because honestly, Donald Gay Trump was already taken, so I
Speaker 1: had to be Donald J. G. Trump, which I actually
Speaker 1: like a little better. It's fine, it's fine. I hate.
Speaker 1: I love that he's so obviously to everyone in America
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, but his handle is Donald J. Trump and
Speaker 1: he's running a resident Donald day Trump, But you're Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Did can I say something like kind of crazy? My
Speaker 1: brother in law before he dried, He's dropped me after
Speaker 1: the airpart this morning. Um, and then no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is good. He was just like, and he works
Speaker 1: in media, and he was like, I'm so scared you're
Speaker 1: about to say like and then he said I love Trump.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no. He is like very
Speaker 1: sort of like new savvy, media savvy. And he was
Speaker 1: telling me so obviously Jill Stein, so he um, he
Speaker 1: was telling me how there's this theory out with a
Speaker 1: lot of like sort of media like insiders that Donald
Speaker 1: Trump has been canceling all these like outreach events but
Speaker 1: he's still been doing his rallies and all of his
Speaker 1: rallies and the last week post d d NC, he's
Speaker 1: been like, the elections rigged, the elections rigged, he's been saying.
Speaker 1: He keeps saying it it's rigged. And then he attacks
Speaker 1: the fire marshals at each of the stops he's at
Speaker 1: for each town and he's like, because the fire marshals
Speaker 1: cut off the number of attendees for each rally because
Speaker 1: of obviously obvious safety reasons, and Donald Trump is going crazy,
Speaker 1: and he's like, the fire shoals are in cahoots with
Speaker 1: the local Democrats. They're trying to they're trying to limit
Speaker 1: the people who can see me. Bla blah blah, Bobby.
Speaker 1: Elections ragged. Look, look all the Democrats are working against me.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, they are. That's that's what the election is.
Speaker 1: The whole establishments working against him. And so he's saying that.
Speaker 1: So so the theory out there is that he's going
Speaker 1: to quit, that he's going to bail on the entire
Speaker 1: fucking elect And he's been like saying how the debates
Speaker 1: are ragged or whatever. He's like, they're on the scene,
Speaker 1: manus NFL games, no one's gonna watch. It's rigged. It's rigged.
Speaker 1: It's so the theory out there is he's gonna fucking
Speaker 1: drop out of the fucking race before like even the
Speaker 1: first debate. What will happen then, our producer Joe just
Speaker 1: cracked up. It's I don't know, because it's never fucking
Speaker 1: happened before. I mean, there's got to be a system
Speaker 1: in place. What do we go, Like, I mean, then
Speaker 1: then it's great, Then it's a I mean then it's
Speaker 1: then it's a fucking sligh But like, I don't, isn't
Speaker 1: that crazy? It is crazy? Honestly, the more and more
Speaker 1: I think about it, the more it makes sense to me,
Speaker 1: because I just I don't know where it's going now,
Speaker 1: Like I can't. I feel like it's been so weird
Speaker 1: that it can't possibly like good, Like it can't end
Speaker 1: in a normal way, not at all, like and and so,
Speaker 1: and this is and him quitting would also help him, say,
Speaker 1: face from losing from being because he doesn't like to lose.
Speaker 1: I thought about that. He's not he'd rather quit than lose.
Speaker 1: I think he would have seen not nailing it in
Speaker 1: the Republican primaries as being like not a loss. But
Speaker 1: if he directly loses to Hillary Clinton, there's no buts
Speaker 1: about that's a loss, like and he that's his biggest
Speaker 1: insult is loser. Yes, and then my and then I
Speaker 1: asked me brother, and I was like, what is he
Speaker 1: gonna do? Like, That's what I'm worried about. And he's like,
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna go with Roger Ales and start like
Speaker 1: a news network like Trump TV or something. And he's
Speaker 1: like the fucking face of it, which is, of course
Speaker 1: that's gonna something. Would so much rather that because then
Speaker 1: at least we can have like a network that we
Speaker 1: all know is like truly garbage, besides having like Fox.
Speaker 1: And do you not like QPC? Do you not like?
Speaker 1: I don't like? You know that you don't like? You
Speaker 1: don't like you know like I don't Oh no, no no,
Speaker 1: he's trying to get a character you look at. I
Speaker 1: really wanted to do this for you guys, because I
Speaker 1: know that you guys like that edgy thing, like you
Speaker 1: guys rep um, you know, and half Away the edgy face,
Speaker 1: so edgy. Oh my god. I love Anne Hathaway, so edgy.
Speaker 1: She's got the edge. You know, she cut her hair short,
Speaker 1: sup edgy, edgy, super edgy. You know when everyone actress
Speaker 1: cuts her hair short. I just sit back and I say,
Speaker 1: there's the edge. There's edge. She's showing the edge. One tier,
Speaker 1: A single tier rolls down the center of my face,
Speaker 1: like Demi Moore and ghost or should I say sorry
Speaker 1: to me more? I can't get to the bottom of
Speaker 1: what the right way to pronounce her name. It's to me.
Speaker 1: I think it's to me. And that's different from Demi
Speaker 1: Lovado of course, the two most famous Demis. Wow, Demi Wow,
Speaker 1: You're right. I think we need Demi Levado and Demi
Speaker 1: Moore in a movie together called Demi, Demi and Demi.
Speaker 1: I love it. Let's let's do it. I'll pitch it
Speaker 1: to um Grosho's listening maybe like I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of someone like it would be like Dus you know,
Speaker 1: and it's like they both play gods. Yes, I like it,
Speaker 1: or duty somewhere days and it's like it's like the
Speaker 1: two Demis, like out on the Halloween. On the Halloween,
Speaker 1: I'm the Halloween. What are you guys gonna be? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's a great question. It's coming up well,
Speaker 1: you know what, you know what, it's around the corner
Speaker 1: at the biggest event of the season. I'm coming back
Speaker 1: from China. So I have a day to get I'm
Speaker 1: there for two weeks and then I have to get
Speaker 1: a costume together. I'll buy something in China. I get
Speaker 1: something in China. Yeah, I'll do that. What are you?
Speaker 1: What are you gonna be? What are you guys gonna be?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Every year I just used it as
Speaker 1: an excuse to dress up like a full woman's great. Um,
Speaker 1: you don't need an excuse. Well, this one needs an excuse.
Speaker 1: Um just William Morris. I'm totally into playing all different
Speaker 1: kinds of roles like put me off for comedy, drama,
Speaker 1: male woman? Wait, which woman? Did? Were you? Did you
Speaker 1: play last year? Last year I was Dolly Parton's busted cousin. Yes, sure,
Speaker 1: And the year before I was just like an early
Speaker 1: version of my character from Broadway Aunt's Katrina. Yes, but
Speaker 1: she was like the sexy secretary. She was like a
Speaker 1: sexy secretary at the work office party. She's like, I'm
Speaker 1: letting luise tonight. That sounds fun, that's great, that's like
Speaker 1: the sam you did drag last tellween, I did drag
Speaker 1: last Halloween? Were you Arianna Grande is Ariana? Did you
Speaker 1: have the pony? I looked so bad. No, you looked
Speaker 1: so good, snatch. I looked like more like a Mortal
Speaker 1: combat character than Ariana grand day. I looked like a monster,
Speaker 1: like but you loved it. It was fun. But I
Speaker 1: was like, I thought to be a woman, all you
Speaker 1: had to do was have long hair. Yeah. No, there's
Speaker 1: so much more to being a woman than long hair.
Speaker 1: I had long hair and a dress, and I just
Speaker 1: looked like, like it turns out I'm like beefy and out.
Speaker 1: It's no. I think for you, it's the jaw. You
Speaker 1: have a square jaw, so I think as long as
Speaker 1: you like contour around the jaw than you then you'll look,
Speaker 1: then you'll pass. It was disgusting. I looked like a monster,
Speaker 1: but you were. I mean it was a hit on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Sure you got a lot of likes, but I think
Speaker 1: people were like, that's so bad. Yeah, I can I
Speaker 1: can fire sam s I find it. I want to know,
Speaker 1: did you guys ever do when you were younger, like
Speaker 1: the hot kind of dude costumes? Because I used to
Speaker 1: do like I'm your husband, that's having an affair at work.
Speaker 1: I'm Jason Stackhouse. One year, I was like a sixty
Speaker 1: nerd like high school. You were stacked. You were Jason
Speaker 1: Stackhouse the year that I was ash Ketchum, which honestly,
Speaker 1: that's like a porn. That's a good porn. No, like
Speaker 1: a true blood Pokemon porn. This is not the best picture,
Speaker 1: but this is the Instagram. This is I mean, look,
Speaker 1: it doesn't look bad. Oh my god, you look like
Speaker 1: Amy Schumer. Yeah no, sorry, god looks so it's so good.
Speaker 1: You got to look like though, and you nailed it.
Speaker 1: I looked monstrous. You look good, Joe, take a look.
Speaker 1: To take a look. Producer Joe nods in approval. Sam.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about let's talk about you. You know I
Speaker 1: would love Sam. How did you guys come up with
Speaker 1: the idea for to do live on broad Gay Sam's idea?
Speaker 1: And then Sam came to me and was like, what
Speaker 1: can you help me do this? And I was like yes,
Speaker 1: And then we just like we went to Dos Toros
Speaker 1: one day where all creatives go to really stir it up.
Speaker 1: You just feel open and creative. I think I have
Speaker 1: had a meeting there. It's great. I mean you have to.
Speaker 1: I think we should go back Sam, We'll all three
Speaker 1: of us should go back to Fly on It and
Speaker 1: reflect and see what inspires us. So just so you
Speaker 1: guys don't know, maybe you don't know if you've been
Speaker 1: living under a fucking rock, honestly, So Live on broad
Speaker 1: Gay is Bowen and Sam restaging episodes traditionally of Sex
Speaker 1: in the City. I don't know if you guys are
Speaker 1: beholden to that, but it's it's a restaging of episodes
Speaker 1: of classic gay ass shows so far as justin Sex
Speaker 1: in the City move on to other things. But it's
Speaker 1: been a true hit with Sex and the City. We
Speaker 1: haven't been in it. I've been in it as Tree
Speaker 1: and Scott Brandon, Scott Jones's Carrie, Julio is Miranda, Sam
Speaker 1: plays Charlotte Joe, Joel Kim Booster plays Samantha in a
Speaker 1: performance that can only be described as slutty. I mean
Speaker 1: all four the core for those those recastings are I
Speaker 1: think they we nailed it absolutely. I've never met a
Speaker 1: bigger slut than Joel Kim Booster, so true. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's very good. It's a good show.
Speaker 1: Sam and are proud of that. Oh yeah, no, it's great.
Speaker 1: I mean everyone should. Is there another one on the books? Well,
Speaker 1: we'll see which yes, we're not on the books, but like,
Speaker 1: but have you guys at least picked an episode that
Speaker 1: you like We've had a kickoff meeting. Okay, yeah, we
Speaker 1: had a kickoff at Jimmy's in Green Point. See there
Speaker 1: was your there was your mistake. It should have been
Speaker 1: See if it ain't broke, don't fix it on right,
Speaker 1: You're right, We just you know, need to send that email.
Speaker 1: Can you guys say what episode you're thinking of doing
Speaker 1: or is that? I feel like all right, and oh
Speaker 1: the episode itself is a point of Vieweah, we're not sure.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you all? My favorite episode of the
Speaker 1: show is just to say that my favorite episode of
Speaker 1: Section the City is the one that follows the post
Speaker 1: it after Burger after break up, after Burger breaks up
Speaker 1: with Carrie to post it I'm sorry, I can't don't
Speaker 1: hate me and she knocks it off the table. The
Speaker 1: episode after that, what happens in it? Okay, I actually
Speaker 1: now I'm trying to blank about what happens in it,
Speaker 1: but it's really good. I just remember like watching that
Speaker 1: last scene and being like, holy sh it, I gotta
Speaker 1: watch the next one, and then the next one being
Speaker 1: really good. Also, there's an episode called My Mother Board Myself,
Speaker 1: which is serious. Miranda's mom passes away, but it's a
Speaker 1: really good episode and we and it and Carrie gets
Speaker 1: your computer effects. Yeah, Sam and I watched that episode
Speaker 1: for the last brogay because we were still like it
Speaker 1: was in the running and we were like, it's it's
Speaker 1: too it's so dramatic. It's very but it's like it
Speaker 1: would be hard to be like it's funny, right yeah, um,
Speaker 1: and but no, this is this is a real point
Speaker 1: of contention. Sam refuses to do any episode with Burger
Speaker 1: in it. I have a band in Burger episodes. Why
Speaker 1: you hate burg? I hate? Yeah, I mean he was
Speaker 1: the full worst. But is it is it you hate
Speaker 1: Burger that you hate that that actor what's his name?
Speaker 1: I'm fine with Ron if he's listening. Ron's actually with
Speaker 1: gersh Um Um, no, shade gersh I it's his character
Speaker 1: is that he is nothing like which is hilarious. It's
Speaker 1: the most boring, Like he just like goes with it
Speaker 1: and then like freaks out for no reason and then
Speaker 1: it's just like like him anything they try to give him.
Speaker 1: He's the Demilovado of love and he is just like
Speaker 1: she She only liked him because he was like pithy
Speaker 1: and passively attractive, which is like not enough of a reason.
Speaker 1: He wrote a motorcycle and she was like obsessed with him,
Speaker 1: and it was like she was this isn't a Big
Speaker 1: or an Aiden. No, no way, this is no the Russian,
Speaker 1: It's no, it's no Petrovia. I think Aiden was the one.
Speaker 1: I love Aiden. I'm an eating guy. I'm a big head. Really,
Speaker 1: that's why it works. You know, works, really don't. I
Speaker 1: really don't get them together Big, Big, and Carry. I
Speaker 1: don't understand. You know what you know, you know what
Speaker 1: happened with Big, and this is you know, this is
Speaker 1: like unfortunately sort of sexist. This only happens with man.
Speaker 1: But he got hot as the ship progressed, and then
Speaker 1: he was super hot in the movies. I don't agree.
Speaker 1: I think Big has always been trash. It looks like
Speaker 1: trash so hot in the show. I feel like in
Speaker 1: the second movie he looked because he was yeah, and
Speaker 1: he was barely in it. But the first movie he
Speaker 1: looked when they're lying in bed together and he has
Speaker 1: just has his shirt and buttoned and his chest to show.
Speaker 1: It's like such a good chest to me. It's all
Speaker 1: about Honestly, I was thinking I loved almost all the
Speaker 1: guys that Samantha fun. I was like, Yep, that's the
Speaker 1: hottest guy ever. That's the hottest guy ever. That's the
Speaker 1: hottest guy ever. Everyone she fucked. I was like, Yep,
Speaker 1: she nailed it yet again, even that even that guy. Um,
Speaker 1: who's that guy? Who's who's in vinyl? Um? Bobby? He's
Speaker 1: very hot? You are you joking? I would I would
Speaker 1: literally cut off my foot. Okay, Bobby, if you're listening,
Speaker 1: we have a challenge. I'll take off my foot for you. Fine,
Speaker 1: my foot, get out of here. I'm sorry. I don't
Speaker 1: know what Bobby. You can give Matt Rogers gangreen of
Speaker 1: the foot and he'll chop it right off and you
Speaker 1: get to fuck him. It's that cool foot lifts. Matt Rodger, smart, beautiful,
Speaker 1: without a foot, without a foot, you can pick which one.
Speaker 1: Giving so giving um But no, I mean, she just
Speaker 1: sucked the hottest guys on the show. But I do
Speaker 1: think that the best looking guy on the show, honestly,
Speaker 1: the most attractive guy, the most one I was Steve.
Speaker 1: Steve love these arms in his butt, the great but
Speaker 1: personality stupid little boys. Miranda was such a she was
Speaker 1: the worst. No, you watch it now in Miranda is
Speaker 1: the only relatable one. Yeah, but no, there were moments
Speaker 1: on the show where she was truly she did things
Speaker 1: because she was cruel, like in the movie when she
Speaker 1: because when she sucked things up for Carrie because Steve
Speaker 1: showed up at the dinner, and and and Miranda got
Speaker 1: very upset. And then she turned to Big and she goes,
Speaker 1: don't ever get married. Like that was how she was feeling.
Speaker 1: It's such it was a beautiful plot device. It was wonderful.
Speaker 1: But she knew that Carrie and Big were headed in
Speaker 1: that direction. So what you're thinking about yourself to that
Speaker 1: extent where you're actually going to turn to the committed
Speaker 1: partner of your best friend and say, don't ever get married?
Speaker 1: You're that selfish that I'm sorry for an intelligent woman
Speaker 1: like Miranda to do that. You know, it was a
Speaker 1: little It was such a good conflict for the movie. Sure,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean she's a good person. Was garbage.
Speaker 1: The first movie is excellent. The second movie is trash.
Speaker 1: I mean, make Sam thinks the opposite. Sam thinks the
Speaker 1: first movie he loves the second. The second movie is
Speaker 1: like a piece that needs to be studied. There is
Speaker 1: so much wrong with it. It is like and I
Speaker 1: could not believe it. I was here, I was jarred,
Speaker 1: like it couldn't have been like truly, if they had
Speaker 1: given all the women's superpowers, it would have made more
Speaker 1: sense than this movie. But yet again, Samantha Fox the
Speaker 1: too hottest guys, she's ever the second, the best, the
Speaker 1: best man at the wedding in the beginning, sure, I
Speaker 1: don't really, Oh my god, go Wils look that up
Speaker 1: on you? And then rickards spurt spurt at the end,
Speaker 1: so hot, like you got a joke hotter than Smith.
Speaker 1: I didn't obozo face. He did, come on, he looks
Speaker 1: good in the show, but in something happened in that
Speaker 1: first movie where he looked so stupid, Like the cameras
Speaker 1: were better and you could see the details and it
Speaker 1: was like, oh no, this is why you're in TV. Baby. God, Wow,
Speaker 1: we saw Jill Marini's dick in the first movie. Ji Marini,
Speaker 1: the Italian guy that like is next to yes and
Speaker 1: you see is like cockballs and butt. I love the
Speaker 1: first movie see because the man that didn't suck that
Speaker 1: guy and she was really close to and then like
Speaker 1: it was a nice satisfying like bait and switch of
Speaker 1: like no, she's she's she's committed to to Smith and
Speaker 1: she's not gonna suck him. I liked that the movie.
Speaker 1: Will there be a third movie? I mean, there's got
Speaker 1: to be right, there's there has to be happens when
Speaker 1: they're seven year old. Yeah, it'll be great. I mean,
Speaker 1: s JP, I'm excited for this divorce show on HBO.
Speaker 1: It looks interesting. I'm down for s JP. I think
Speaker 1: she's really good. I get into arguments of people all
Speaker 1: the time, but whether or not she's talented, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: fark yourself. And she's been on Broadway, she's been on TV,
Speaker 1: she's been in film. She nails it every time. She's
Speaker 1: also like someone you watch on television and you're not
Speaker 1: You're not once thinking like oh she's acting, Like even
Speaker 1: if people say like she well she does her started
Speaker 1: to Parker thing. Yeah, but it's also super grounded and
Speaker 1: like really interesting and fun to watch, compelling, So like,
Speaker 1: what's the problem. It's like Lena Dunham, Like you have
Speaker 1: a problem with Lena Dunham on Girls, Like if you
Speaker 1: do like then don't watch girls at all. There you go.
Speaker 1: That's okay. So we're talking about sex in the city.
Speaker 1: The loose theme of this episode I think we went
Speaker 1: over was sex the city and sex and the city.
Speaker 1: So this is fun. Let's talk about sex and the
Speaker 1: city for us. Like I'm just going to talk about like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I was going to be tempted to talk
Speaker 1: about like good lays, but maybe that's too much. You
Speaker 1: guys put drops in your show because it would be
Speaker 1: like a good like coo coo coo. At first, we
Speaker 1: don't do drops, but this is I think if we're
Speaker 1: having a section called good lays, we need that and
Speaker 1: then a couple of we have to pause and leave
Speaker 1: space for Joe to put the drop later. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is alright, a's the drop. Let's see I moved here
Speaker 1: in two eight. Um, how soon after that did you
Speaker 1: get your co How were the lays? And two lay
Speaker 1: two eight and two I'm sorry, um with men with
Speaker 1: men um. I was like really just like casting a
Speaker 1: wide neat but all in the neighborhood, all in the
Speaker 1: east village where I was living at the time. Some
Speaker 1: guy down the street who like my this is my
Speaker 1: first month in New York and I was like just
Speaker 1: one of those like UCB obsessed, like fucking nerds. And
Speaker 1: then he was talking about how he liked it was
Speaker 1: a UCB guy. It was a Second City guy. He
Speaker 1: was like, he was like a little bit. I think
Speaker 1: you would have liked himself. Do you remember his name?
Speaker 1: No kind of name? Tag him in the I'm anticipated
Speaker 1: to him again and like, I forget what he looks
Speaker 1: like he was. He's just like he was kind of
Speaker 1: a bear. I hooked up with a Second City bear?
Speaker 1: Wait are we now that to each other over the
Speaker 1: mind I don't remember his name, Okay, find a pick.
Speaker 1: So anyway, so that was my first mind you and
Speaker 1: he was telling me about how you liked was top
Speaker 1: by Dell Close on all this bullsh was like in
Speaker 1: the same classes Tina Fey and Mayby Poehler and all
Speaker 1: this stuff. I was like, wow, cool, I was like
Speaker 1: that was That was when I was like, talent can
Speaker 1: be sexually transmitted. Um. And then there was another guy
Speaker 1: down the street on Houston And first when I would
Speaker 1: go to his apartment too, he was he had a
Speaker 1: living girlfriend, but he was an open relationship. He was
Speaker 1: they were both bisexual. I would just go to his
Speaker 1: place just to like there was nothing penetrative, but it
Speaker 1: was just for us to be naked in play and
Speaker 1: it was fun. Well that's literally like what entirely college was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's what college was for me. And now I'm
Speaker 1: like a dry I'm in a dry spell again. But
Speaker 1: that's that's being in sex in the city. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't know from I was straight my whole first year
Speaker 1: of college or like still saying. It was strange. So
Speaker 1: there was no action there and then like the like
Speaker 1: in the next three years you do your like stupid
Speaker 1: like slutty face, slutty gay like hooking up things like
Speaker 1: obviously a big deal, but like you hook up with
Speaker 1: people and like find out what that is. But that
Speaker 1: I think happened. Yeah, that was like college for me.
Speaker 1: It was not high school. I was so jealous of
Speaker 1: all my friends that got to have sex in high
Speaker 1: school because I was like, man, they're like figuring it out,
Speaker 1: they're getting a jump start and what sex is, and
Speaker 1: I know it's probably good, but no way was it good. Well,
Speaker 1: because like you're at your horneyst in high school and college,
Speaker 1: I think, and like you want to like at least
Speaker 1: try that out. But I mean, and then nineteen I
Speaker 1: lost my virginity. It's nice. Okay, that's nice, looks like nice.
Speaker 1: And and then what was like the period leading up
Speaker 1: to your beautiful You're now You're now beautiful relationship with
Speaker 1: your boyfriend Henry? What was the period was the period
Speaker 1: leading up to it? Like, like, were you like seeing
Speaker 1: a lot of things? Not really at all, So like
Speaker 1: the last year before I was in a relationship, I
Speaker 1: really just kind of stopped caring about that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: I think right after college I went on a lot
Speaker 1: of like Tinder dates and a lot to okay Cupid dates,
Speaker 1: and honestly, by the by the when I really got
Speaker 1: into that stuff, it really was just to hook up
Speaker 1: at that point, Like I didn't have grinder. I didn't
Speaker 1: I had. I never had grinder, I never used grinder metal,
Speaker 1: just no. But like it was only because I was
Speaker 1: Like it was only because I was, like I mean,
Speaker 1: but like I might as well have been because I
Speaker 1: was just hooking up with everyone I hooked. I like
Speaker 1: saw Okaycupid and Tender. Like it was not about and
Speaker 1: getting to know anybody. But you know what you did
Speaker 1: in college that I didn't do you hooked up with
Speaker 1: like people our age at any I was hooking, I
Speaker 1: was like venturing outside because no one, none of my
Speaker 1: classmates wanted to hook up with me. Yeah, I conversely
Speaker 1: like ruined a lot of relationships or whatever. I remember
Speaker 1: just being oh, man, that was so annoying. There was
Speaker 1: like a lot of it was n y U and
Speaker 1: it was like tish at NYU and like it was
Speaker 1: all so small and everyone was all up in each
Speaker 1: other's business. That's when you get disappointed for the first time.
Speaker 1: Like that was my intro to like being in a
Speaker 1: gay community or like kind of a subsect of a
Speaker 1: gay community. Age Sam showing the picture of the person.
Speaker 1: It's not him. He's a real bear. So this guy
Speaker 1: that I was hooking up with was less of a
Speaker 1: bear like, but like was it was a little bit
Speaker 1: more just like he was he was he was older
Speaker 1: than that, he looks young. Just to finish what my
Speaker 1: thought was, it was just it's just like the first
Speaker 1: time you get into a community and you're like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: it's incestuous. That sucks. Yeah, but now you know, but
Speaker 1: now you know, and then you just say, hey, life's
Speaker 1: of forest. It's Trump's America. Who cares suck each other?
Speaker 1: Wo Honestly, I have such like a bird in the
Speaker 1: world mentality now and people fucking It's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: suck each other, tum human being. Yeah, go for it,
Speaker 1: go for it. Dam walk us through. Um. Well, let's see.
Speaker 1: I have a very similar tale to Matt Rogers as
Speaker 1: he's like so bored. I uh didn't come out until
Speaker 1: my second year of college. And but then immediately after
Speaker 1: coming out, had set with a woman. Wow, because you
Speaker 1: really wanted to it, because you were like, let me
Speaker 1: bring it back. It was like a mistake. It was
Speaker 1: like weird and I don't know what happened. It was
Speaker 1: like college drunkenness that was like very confusing, and it
Speaker 1: was sex sex. It was sex sex, and it was
Speaker 1: very cool. Did you genuinely enjoy it? Yeah, that's so funny.
Speaker 1: I'm what they call a gold star game. Never. I
Speaker 1: think seeing a pussy lives never. I never never interacted
Speaker 1: with the vagina in that way. Sure, but you have
Speaker 1: how many times? Um? One and a half? Okay, Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's so interesting that right after you came out,
Speaker 1: it was very weird because I feel like I was
Speaker 1: like we were all like like whatever, like we're just
Speaker 1: all making out and it's so funny. But then like
Speaker 1: you get turned on at some point and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's not making out anymore, Like it's not funny and silly,
Speaker 1: like we're going upstairs and we were like it was
Speaker 1: very weird. You got swept up in it. And also
Speaker 1: I actually think this happened to me the same exactly.
Speaker 1: Maybe I didn't have sex with these girls I was
Speaker 1: friends with, but the first people that I told I
Speaker 1: felt the most comfortable with. And then you do start
Speaker 1: making out with them when you get drunk and like
Speaker 1: feeling them up and like everything's happening, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're like, wow, this has gone really far.
Speaker 1: I remember post saying I was gay to these girls,
Speaker 1: like I hooked up with them a lot, and they
Speaker 1: gave me huge hickeys on my neck out it's where
Speaker 1: a turtleneck to class like it was crazy, and everyone
Speaker 1: was like, well, that kid's getting laid. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm just like gay getting kind of taken advantage of.
Speaker 1: That's weird, that's hot. But see here's the thing I
Speaker 1: would see. I could see myself getting swept up to
Speaker 1: the point all the way up to putting my dick
Speaker 1: in their vagina, because at that point I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I can't do that. No right, yeah, no, I can't
Speaker 1: imagine it, But I can't imagine having sex with the woman.
Speaker 1: Would you? Would you still have sex with a woman's
Speaker 1: fam Like, I'm not like a percent opposed. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: if I don't see what situation it would like where
Speaker 1: that would pop up, but like like I don't I'm
Speaker 1: not like like I'm not like that's disgusting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just like I get it. Yeah, like that can
Speaker 1: be fun. That's how my boyfriend is. He's like a
Speaker 1: four on the Kinzie scale. He's a four. That's that's pretty,
Speaker 1: that's like middle. He's told me that he's attracted to
Speaker 1: woman before, and I'm like, wow, and actually recently yeah,
Speaker 1: like not recently, but like you know, he's he's mentioned that,
Speaker 1: like it's a thing. Like he's not a list. It's
Speaker 1: not like a completely only tried to coment like the
Speaker 1: way I am like, it's for me. It's just I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure I like boys. Yeah, but I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: cut you off. You're gonna say something else about what
Speaker 1: about Kinsey four. No, no, No, that's just that just
Speaker 1: that that he's a Kinsey four. I mean I think
Speaker 1: that he's he's mentioned him into me that he's attracted
Speaker 1: to and I'll and I'll just like I'll try to
Speaker 1: wrap my brain around it, just because it's not my experience.
Speaker 1: But that's how, you know, And that's why I said
Speaker 1: before about like, yeah, maybe some straight dudes want to
Speaker 1: Vogue and others don't. Like I really just believe that
Speaker 1: hopefully one day we get to a point where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: everyone can ever do whatever the fuck they want and
Speaker 1: not have to put this like number on the Kinzies
Speaker 1: Gale on it. I guess, yeah, it is interesting, but
Speaker 1: but I mean, just fucking live your life. So Matt,
Speaker 1: and now you're six to Sam, you're maybe a five.
Speaker 1: I'll give it a five. Wow. Cool, that's cool A
Speaker 1: little bit for a girl. Okay, but sex in the
Speaker 1: city you moved, you moved moved twenty eleven. Uh, and
Speaker 1: it had a slow uptake. My approach was, uh, scruff
Speaker 1: and like okay Cupid dates, but like I knew we're
Speaker 1: going to go anywhere, like it was like, but it
Speaker 1: was fine for the physicality for sure, Like the dates
Speaker 1: were more daring in the hookups, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm in public, terrified is he going to kiss me
Speaker 1: at the end of the day? Do I kiss like outside? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And you're like, oh god, but that is like a
Speaker 1: hot part of it. It's fun and new. Well that
Speaker 1: age because I went to college in Virginia, which is
Speaker 1: a little more conservative than a little bit more red State, honey,
Speaker 1: a little bit bitchy. A lot of PlayStation players in
Speaker 1: Virginia absolutely shaped them, shaped them. Yeah, no, I get it.
Speaker 1: And so I was like, I came out to my friends,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't right. Yeah, but I was still like
Speaker 1: like I'm still hidden. Yes, it was a soft I
Speaker 1: have a soft opening, soft launch. Oh, remind me to
Speaker 1: talk about Universal Studios news later to give because I
Speaker 1: have new Um, that's that's very interesting. Yeah. I mean, man,
Speaker 1: I just feel like the first time I got a
Speaker 1: taste of like what it was like talking about with
Speaker 1: a boy, I was like, oh, no, this is it's
Speaker 1: the best. Well yeah, and then I went to I
Speaker 1: lived in Chicago and the summers my parents lived there,
Speaker 1: so I just go to gay bars as soon as
Speaker 1: I turned one and that's when I that was my
Speaker 1: real opening. Yeah, I feel like Sam and I caught
Speaker 1: each other at a time when when you were both
Speaker 1: really horning. Now I knew was just Sam. Sam and
Speaker 1: I have seen each other just fucking wasted, Like I
Speaker 1: don't think I'll ever get that drunk again in my life. Okay,
Speaker 1: that makes one of us. But I've seen Sam and
Speaker 1: Sam and I have gone to these gay bars in
Speaker 1: Chicago where it was just like the funnest time ever.
Speaker 1: And it was and I wasn't even like cooking up
Speaker 1: with people. It was it was just like a gay awakening.
Speaker 1: And Sam was like a steward in that regard. So
Speaker 1: thank you Sam, Thank you Bow. But now you're now
Speaker 1: you're in your own committed relationship. I am lovely with
Speaker 1: a man named Misha. Misha, She's a lovely person. So great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love him. Um. We we met at Metropolitan Bar
Speaker 1: as a hook up. Oh really, so it was like
Speaker 1: it was like a setup to be a hook up.
Speaker 1: Well we just like drunkenly, it was like a one
Speaker 1: night stand. Like we didn't hate each other beforehand, but
Speaker 1: it was like that's me. Yeah, that's like the dream
Speaker 1: is like, oh God, like I would die for to
Speaker 1: meet someone not through an app and be like that's
Speaker 1: not it's like, I mean that's just how you meet
Speaker 1: people that I know what it is. I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: kind of stigmatizing it, but like it's refreshing when it's not,
Speaker 1: when it's still like done, you know what's pretty liberating though,
Speaker 1: Bowen like just sucking deleting all the apps and then
Speaker 1: just being like fuck it. I mean that's I think
Speaker 1: that's the place I was in when I was like
Speaker 1: and then I was in and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden I met Henry just from life, you know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I had deleted, not like if I needed it, but
Speaker 1: I had stopped like trying to go on dates. Like
Speaker 1: I was like, that's not the way for me, Like no,
Speaker 1: I mean, dates are they're also so they can be
Speaker 1: so bad. So I oh my gosh, I'll just say this.
Speaker 1: I went on a date a few dates with someone
Speaker 1: who's now on a really popular television show. Okay, dish
Speaker 1: first and last, dame. I don't know, I nev Okay,
Speaker 1: at least pull up a pick on your phone. They're
Speaker 1: not gonna listen tag them. I was literally whispered into
Speaker 1: that koked up with the guy that's on Unreal Math.
Speaker 1: You'll know who it is when you watch it. It
Speaker 1: cannot wait, it's not even it's it's really good. So basically, um,
Speaker 1: but it was the it was bad. It was the
Speaker 1: worst date. Oh yeah, like it was like but the
Speaker 1: way people act, I think when they when they know
Speaker 1: they're on a date that that actually was like one
Speaker 1: of one of the worst dates. You know what's best
Speaker 1: you just you just took up with them first, you
Speaker 1: both did this with your with your boys, is that
Speaker 1: you hooked up with them, and then it's sort of
Speaker 1: evolved from there. We were friends and then like you
Speaker 1: guys never went on a date like before because I
Speaker 1: only it was single ten minutes before, right, I told
Speaker 1: you he I hope he's not furious that I'm talking
Speaker 1: about or whatever. I don't think he is. First and
Speaker 1: last name guys really quickly. Sam is sort of developing
Speaker 1: a podcast. If there's any like big budget podcast network
Speaker 1: out there that wants a hot idea, this is potentially destructive.
Speaker 1: This idea say it okay speaking into I'm so nervous,
Speaker 1: but goes damn so podcast coming soon, one can assume
Speaker 1: is called who do you hate. You just ship talk
Speaker 1: people that are real and that you hate on the
Speaker 1: podcast using first and last names, and that's in your
Speaker 1: personal life or like both all lives. Like I think,
Speaker 1: I think we're it's most successful where if it's like
Speaker 1: very personal and it's like people that most people don't know,
Speaker 1: but but you were able to speak it so vividly
Speaker 1: that like we feel like we do know. Doesn't this
Speaker 1: make you so nervous? But it doesn't. Yeah, And if
Speaker 1: it's like up for like very short period of time
Speaker 1: and then gone forever, No, I think you gotta stand
Speaker 1: by it. I think you gotta stand You got to
Speaker 1: burn the world. Yeah, I think it's a very burn
Speaker 1: the world type thing because it's like it's I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys had juicy campus at your and
Speaker 1: it just like it target Did they target you? I
Speaker 1: was under the radar. I didn't get targeted. It was
Speaker 1: basically like every other thread was like closet gaze listom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was so fucked up. That's how you know,
Speaker 1: the worlds of bad places, bad people. It was so evil,
Speaker 1: but it was talked about so much and I feel
Speaker 1: like we can recreate. Okay, it's very fuzz worthy. But look, Sam,
Speaker 1: I feel like that's don't you do you think that
Speaker 1: that's just an evolved form of cyberbullying in a way.
Speaker 1: I think there yes, Like theoretically, like the people that
Speaker 1: are ship talked, like there needs to be a system
Speaker 1: where it's like the people that are ship talked, then
Speaker 1: it means there's the next episode. Absolutely, Oh I love that,
Speaker 1: So that it's like they can then speak their piece
Speaker 1: and say who they fucking hate or what about this?
Speaker 1: What if it's like kind of like a um Joe
Speaker 1: Schmo type situation where it's like someone and then they
Speaker 1: call a person to be on a podcast with them,
Speaker 1: and it's like it's gonna be about like, um, it's
Speaker 1: gonna find out that it's a podcast called I Hate
Speaker 1: You and it's you telling them how much you hate them.
Speaker 1: No way. Well, I think it would also make you
Speaker 1: realize that you don't actually hate anyone that much. But
Speaker 1: then I think it would like cleanse you a little
Speaker 1: because you're like, I don't actually like that was so
Speaker 1: petty to be like published live whatever, Like that doesn't
Speaker 1: need to be out there. I think there could be
Speaker 1: like positiveness to come out of it. Maybe around to something.
Speaker 1: I believe you mentioned juicy campus that was such a
Speaker 1: blast in the past. Honestly I was. Now I'm friends
Speaker 1: with people that got it so bad on juicy campus,
Speaker 1: and that must have been so painful. I remember I
Speaker 1: used to I used to run to my computer and
Speaker 1: check that website to make sure I wasn't honest when
Speaker 1: we were in high school college. I did it to see,
Speaker 1: like to like see who to prey upon, like who's gay?
Speaker 1: Like I was like this rule, who's bullying? Can I
Speaker 1: manipulate it? Like which like frat bros are closeted and gay?
Speaker 1: Like that sounds incredible. That's entire list. Have you ever
Speaker 1: chalked up with the straight guy? Yes, I wish I have. Sam. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the dream. Oh my god, but you don't
Speaker 1: look happy about it. I've had Like I'm I can
Speaker 1: be a bit of a deviant, like uh, like when
Speaker 1: you're like ruining someone's life, it's like this is kind
Speaker 1: of fun, Like, oh my god, Sam is the king
Speaker 1: of beef. I'll say it. I mean it's been said,
Speaker 1: but Sam, Sam's Sam. It's sure, Sam tag does start
Speaker 1: some being this is it's villainous. But you but you
Speaker 1: work with it, you use you, you own it. I
Speaker 1: gotta go dark and then I'll go light again next year.
Speaker 1: You know what, you have to break yourself completely down
Speaker 1: so you can put yourself back Sam. Sam says that
Speaker 1: this podcast would be a huge hit because of Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's rise. He's saying, that's proof that people love sham
Speaker 1: Tagget is a Trump voter, taggets PlayStation. Yeah, it's so real.
Speaker 1: I love that parallel. It's like Trump's Trump Trumps rises proof.
Speaker 1: All he does publish talk and so people publish all
Speaker 1: of it. They eat it up. It's so fun to hear.
Speaker 1: Before we before we move on to the end of
Speaker 1: our episode, I do want to ask one basic ask question,
Speaker 1: and because that's sexy the city against section of the city,
Speaker 1: let's just say, Sam, who do identify with? Who? What? Which?
Speaker 1: Other ladies always oh my god, and you're allowed to.
Speaker 1: It's just like, honestly, I feel like I'm the weird
Speaker 1: hybrid between Samantha and Charlotte. I'm the in between. You know.
Speaker 1: I've seen that you play Charlotte very well in broad Gay,
Speaker 1: So I see that and then you're yeah, you've got them,
Speaker 1: Samanthe and you yeah, yeah, for sure, Like you've got
Speaker 1: the um I I want. I'm like Marianda ten Charlotte.
Speaker 1: M that checks out. So eight twenty. Why do you think, Uh,
Speaker 1: there's there's some naivete, there's some obliviousness. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm half the time I'm like that
Speaker 1: person who's just like what's going on? What I'm I'm
Speaker 1: so out of the loop in that Charlotte way, And
Speaker 1: then the rest of the time I'm just Miranda, And
Speaker 1: then I'm like neurotic and all of those trappings. What
Speaker 1: about you, Matt, I do feel like a car okaynoxious
Speaker 1: to say, but I understand what she does and why
Speaker 1: she does it a lot. Like I think like sometimes
Speaker 1: she knows, like like I get the thing of like,
Speaker 1: oh I know this is wrong, like but I do
Speaker 1: it anyway. Like I think she's like a very kind
Speaker 1: of hearts like passionate person, and I identify with that.
Speaker 1: I also think she kind of knows better every time
Speaker 1: she does something that's wrong. And if I really think
Speaker 1: about all the kind of mistakes I've made in my life,
Speaker 1: it's been that it's like, well, you knew that that
Speaker 1: was stupid, And I just like get her and less
Speaker 1: even like, I know I'm a Carrie, I just don't
Speaker 1: necessarily seeing myself as a Samantha Miranda or a Charlotte's Fair.
Speaker 1: That checks out, I'll give you that for sure. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's so Basically, it's a problematic and flawed question,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad that we exposed it. That's beautiful. Can
Speaker 1: I just throw out there that I really think that
Speaker 1: you guys should consider doing the pilot of Desperate Housewives?
Speaker 1: I would agree with I like that. I like that,
Speaker 1: or like a classic grays anatomy up that too, but
Speaker 1: it's not as gay. Okay, Well, so here's because I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna say something that might cause some beef. Well,
Speaker 1: because Santagas on the show we have, we're allowed to
Speaker 1: do that. I'm not gonna say we started this track.
Speaker 1: I'm not the same name. Oh my god, I know
Speaker 1: where this is going. I'm saying there's this and I'm
Speaker 1: not saying we started this. But there's been this uptick
Speaker 1: in like these like re enactment shows and reinterpretation shows.
Speaker 1: And Sam has pointed this out to me as well.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm sure he has, but but I think what
Speaker 1: makes broad gay special is that it's like the subjection
Speaker 1: matter that we're parenting is a comment on the asting
Speaker 1: decision is that it's a reimagining of Sex in the
Speaker 1: City with gay man and Sex in the City is
Speaker 1: a show that sort of celebrates and also like in
Speaker 1: some ways undercuts gay culture, right. I would say that's
Speaker 1: fair to say, yeah, our show is different because it
Speaker 1: like has a point of view. Wow. So anyway, so
Speaker 1: Sam so so A lot of times, so Sam and
Speaker 1: I have had this discussion where we're like, we're like,
Speaker 1: what if we were to do other shows, what will
Speaker 1: we do? And then Sam is like, well, and Sam
Speaker 1: is a sort of rightfully resistant to when we think
Speaker 1: of other shows because it's like, wouldn't no Sex in
Speaker 1: the City is a gay show if you name all
Speaker 1: these other shows like Golden Girls stops close, Desperate Housewives
Speaker 1: comes close. But like even I would say Grazy Anatomy
Speaker 1: as a departure because it's not like a gay show.
Speaker 1: It's very much like a two thousand six show, you
Speaker 1: know what. Also was pretty viable I think doing like
Speaker 1: a full ass movie like Crossroads, cross Roads or oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I've had some other ones sort of in the cant
Speaker 1: or that you know, yeah, or clue like clueless art
Speaker 1: of the travel Pants. I would love Yeah, I I
Speaker 1: just want to throw my hat at for Blake Lively.
Speaker 1: If that happened, I would be America forever. When you
Speaker 1: would be Alexis Liddell. Sure you definitely check out. Who's
Speaker 1: the other one, fucking amber Tamberlin? I would be amber
Speaker 1: T Hamblin. That's that's Julio. That's Julio taure, says Ambert Hamblin,
Speaker 1: and I'm saying I'm loud. No, Ambert Hamblin is Max Twitter.
Speaker 1: I want to say too, just like like like what
Speaker 1: all good all good casting decisions? Yeah wait, I was
Speaker 1: wait where was I right before that? Just like we're
Speaker 1: naming other shows and media that could be there's a
Speaker 1: lot Our show is the point of bargain, has a
Speaker 1: point of view. Sure, shots fired, you guys. But that
Speaker 1: we're going to move on to our last segment um,
Speaker 1: which is called I don't think so, honey. So basically,
Speaker 1: for those of you listening at home on the subway,
Speaker 1: at work on the subway, at work on the sub way,
Speaker 1: at home, sorry, hold on, got to look right away. Basically, um,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take sixty seconds on the clock, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna rail at something in culture, in life that's pissing
Speaker 1: us off. And the more you can use the words
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, then while you're driving your
Speaker 1: point home, and the more Bowen and I are entertained. Yes,
Speaker 1: and uh so, let's put sixty o'clock. When do you
Speaker 1: want to go first? You first? Do you have something?
Speaker 1: I am pretty close to having something. Does that mean
Speaker 1: you want to start? You go first? Okay, so you
Speaker 1: want to put women, I'll put on putting women on
Speaker 1: the clock. And Bowen's I don't think so, honey begins
Speaker 1: now I don't think so, honey. Southwest Airlines bitch. I
Speaker 1: was supposed to get back into New York City on
Speaker 1: Sunday night at My flight was at five three. You're
Speaker 1: supposed to get in touchdown at eight o'clock. Guess what happened.
Speaker 1: I get to the airport, I sit on the Atlanta
Speaker 1: Marta train system. I get there hours early, just to
Speaker 1: be the responsible traveler that I am. I get there,
Speaker 1: they keep pushing the they keep delaying the flight back
Speaker 1: by half our increments until it's nine fucking clock at night.
Speaker 1: I'm still stuck in the airport, and then finally, because
Speaker 1: of stormy weather in New York, they cancel the flight.
Speaker 1: The earliest time they can get me back is Tuesday,
Speaker 1: this day, today afternoon. Guess what, guys, I'm not saying,
Speaker 1: and I might not be at liberty to say this necessarily.
Speaker 1: I was supposed to shoot a scene on a show
Speaker 1: with a famed musical theater actress. Let's just say she's
Speaker 1: the foremost interpreter of Stephen Sondheim's works. She has red hair,
Speaker 1: very curly, she has a very an easily voice, and
Speaker 1: I was supposed to do a scene with her. And listen,
Speaker 1: I had to cancel out of I pull out of
Speaker 1: that shune and call my manager on the verge of tears.
Speaker 1: And that's all because of Southwest Airlines' fault. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, Southwest Airlines, I don't think so. In
Speaker 1: a minute, I guess sorry. I got a little income
Speaker 1: here in towards the end because he was so mad
Speaker 1: and so worked up just three living that. That wasn't
Speaker 1: my problem with what you did. What was what was
Speaker 1: your problem with it? My problem with what you did
Speaker 1: was the lack of I don't think so honey, because
Speaker 1: I had to get I had to get a lot
Speaker 1: of exposition information out there. Do you want to know
Speaker 1: what my problem with it was? But you didn't list
Speaker 1: first and last names. Guys, I will Bernard. I was
Speaker 1: supposed to do a scene with Bernard's Atte Peters and
Speaker 1: then I had to fucking cancel it. I felt like
Speaker 1: a fucking I was like, I could have told my
Speaker 1: kids about this. Do you know what I'm saying? You
Speaker 1: can still tell your kids about it. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: what's important. That's I mean whatever. I'm just I'm I
Speaker 1: was surprisingly then about it. I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I left the air part. It's like, it's fine, it's fine,
Speaker 1: it's fine. It just wasn't meant to be alright, I
Speaker 1: have one. All right, here we go, putting sixty seconds
Speaker 1: on the clock and go. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: flash flood warnings on my god damn phone. I don't
Speaker 1: want to hear it, if you like, unless it's a serious,
Speaker 1: serious problem. I don't want to see the words flash
Speaker 1: and flood. Okay, if I'm walking outside, I can still
Speaker 1: walk around. I don't want to have to have been worried.
Speaker 1: I don't think, so, honey, I don't own goloshes. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna get him because I know that. Guess what,
Speaker 1: every time I get a Texas flash flood warning, it's
Speaker 1: going to be a ruse. I've never seen a flash
Speaker 1: flood in my life. As far as I'm concerned, they
Speaker 1: don't even exist. I'm a flash flood truther. I get
Speaker 1: a goddamn buzz on my phone and I think it's
Speaker 1: a text, and it's a flash flood, I'll be sick
Speaker 1: to my stomach. I don't think this weekend, I got
Speaker 1: two or three texts about a flash flood, and yet
Speaker 1: I still see the ground. So I don't think, so honey,
Speaker 1: text or whoever you are, whoever decides the government. Maybe
Speaker 1: life so farce follow the money. I don't think, so honey. Okay,
Speaker 1: that was one minute. Did I lose steamer? Was I
Speaker 1: just confidently driving home a point? I mean, you made
Speaker 1: your point, and then you were sort of you were
Speaker 1: sort of you know at sea. I was gonna I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, you know what, I'll tell you something. Bit.
Speaker 1: You can turn those notifications off and I'll show you
Speaker 1: how well if it's a real emergency, I want to
Speaker 1: know about it. Well, then you can't have it both ways.
Speaker 1: I can have it both ways because I just want to.
Speaker 1: I just want them to know if it's a real
Speaker 1: emergency or not. When I get an emergency text on
Speaker 1: my phone makes a noise it's never made before, and
Speaker 1: I looked down at this flash flood. I know it's
Speaker 1: not going to come to fruition, which then you need
Speaker 1: to You need to have other sources and don't rely
Speaker 1: on that text message. Honey, I am terrified. It is
Speaker 1: time for Sam's I don't think so, Honey, woman is
Speaker 1: on the clock starting now. Okay, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Lost Culture Rita's podcast not talking about the fucking new
Speaker 1: Instagram stories, like you guys can share ourselves people that
Speaker 1: are like in touch, and it's like something literally was
Speaker 1: released to day and it's like people are depending on
Speaker 1: you for sucking like advice in culture of the contemporary world,
Speaker 1: and here you don't even mention maybe the biggest thing
Speaker 1: that happened in all of today. It's unbelievable and I
Speaker 1: feel like you guys should take off your fucking silly
Speaker 1: ass hat. Let's face the facts. If you have your
Speaker 1: finger even near the poles. You would be vibrating, yet
Speaker 1: you are silent. You're not inste you know, are not
Speaker 1: cultures at all, You're just guys. Oh my god, that
Speaker 1: is unprecedented, unprecedented. He melted us into whimpering little little masses.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the first time someone has truly told
Speaker 1: us what's what we were the I don't think so,
Speaker 1: Honey's we were the culture being under attack. Wow, honestly
Speaker 1: I respect you. Oh my god, Sam, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for having me. This is proved positive
Speaker 1: that who do you that was the culture of the week.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like that is what who do you hate?
Speaker 1: Would be? It's like, you know what fucking school you
Speaker 1: bitch on what you're doing wrong? I love it? I
Speaker 1: love it. You know what if that was the trailer
Speaker 1: for the show, I think we need to see us
Speaker 1: been off. I'm looking my producer, Joe dead in his eyes.
Speaker 1: Where are you on the kinzie scale? H three point five?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I did not know. Thank you for
Speaker 1: asking that, man. That's what I'm saying. We need to
Speaker 1: burn them. I want to unders the podcast with this,
Speaker 1: burn the world. Everyone's gay, Everyone's gay? Joe, I think
Speaker 1: you should green Land? Who do you hate? Who do
Speaker 1: you hate? I love it? Um, I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: skip culture the week. This week we're going to say,
Speaker 1: but this is a full last episode. Can you can
Speaker 1: you really quickly sum up your new Universal News or yes,
Speaker 1: I know that we all live. We all listen to
Speaker 1: the podcast from my Universal News and updates. So Universal Studios,
Speaker 1: Florida Islands Adventure has opened Skull Mountain, Rain of cong
Speaker 1: and the reviews are in and it's an immersive experience.
Speaker 1: Um Deride is a three sixty covered um three D experience.
Speaker 1: You journey through the tomb of Skull Island and it
Speaker 1: ends the right you could look suffice it to say
Speaker 1: this about six five six minutes of like good, solid,
Speaker 1: real immersive three D thrilling action and then and then
Speaker 1: at the end there is the largest animatronic ever of
Speaker 1: King Kong. And I did get a little spoiler. I
Speaker 1: looked online and it looks pretty fucking fierce. So that
Speaker 1: is brand new news and incredible. Hulk Coaster is going
Speaker 1: to be open again soon, a glorious return, and it's
Speaker 1: been revamped and made even better. My first roller coaster
Speaker 1: and I threw up you threw up after Hulk? Yeah? Wow?
Speaker 1: Have you ever thrown up on a coasters? Never? Never? Once?
Speaker 1: Do you like coasters? Them? Guys, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for being here uh and listening to us on most culturalists.
Speaker 1: We love you, Santaggart. Where can they follow you on
Speaker 1: on the social media? Following me on Twitter at Sam
Speaker 1: t Taggart I believe and then on Instagram at Sam Taggart.
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