WEBVTT - THE LEGO PORN EPISODE

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<v Speaker 1>Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your name?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I gave my name is Debts, Debts.

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<v Speaker 2>You gave your name as Debts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to the to the phone program.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, what's up, Debts? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Not too much. I'm packing up for a Lego convention

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<v Speaker 1>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>A what convention?

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<v Speaker 1>A lego convention?

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck is? Where? Where? Where is this lego convention?

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<v Speaker 1>It's in Virginia. It's in Chantilly, Virginia. It's called the

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<v Speaker 1>Brick Fair Chantilly.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it at the dol Is it at the Dola

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<v Speaker 2>Dulles Convention Center?

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<v Speaker 1>It sure is that the one.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck Yeah, I used to go there for a Smash

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<v Speaker 2>Brothers convention. Okay, what happens at a Lego convention? What's

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<v Speaker 2>going on over there?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the the way that the ones work that I've

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<v Speaker 1>been to is that it's it's a several day convention,

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<v Speaker 1>and one or more days are the public day where

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<v Speaker 1>just anyone can buy a ticket and come in and

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<v Speaker 1>look at the stuff. But the rest of the time is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the adult, mostly adult Lego fans come, They

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<v Speaker 1>set up their creations, they look at it, they ask

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<v Speaker 1>questions to each other about it, and then there's activities.

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<v Speaker 1>There's speakers. The one I'm going to, there's one twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one plus night where you're allowed to drink on the

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<v Speaker 1>floor and people get real into that.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, that sounds very salacious. Twenty one plus Lego night,

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<v Speaker 2>we got more. Yeah, there's definitely gonna be more things

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<v Speaker 2>fitting into each other than just Legos that night. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>all right, well, come on, I've come on.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been to.

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<v Speaker 1>Ones where there's area.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, go ahead, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to ones where there's a blocked off area

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<v Speaker 1>specifically for the creations that are are a little too

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<v Speaker 1>racy for the public to see on the public the

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<v Speaker 1>public days.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, how could you Well, you know, the Lego figure

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<v Speaker 2>hand was perfectly designed for jacking people off.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I've seen comics about that too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's perfectly phallic. If I had a honestly, if I had,

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<v Speaker 2>if I could take a shrink ray and make my

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<v Speaker 2>penis like the size of a little Lego peg, I

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<v Speaker 2>would definitely fuck like a little Lego hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. When I was in I was in like middle school,

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<v Speaker 1>when I first got like internet access, I started getting

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<v Speaker 1>I was on a bionical forum. I mean, I still am.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm meeting up with a bunch of the guys from

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<v Speaker 1>that forum at this convention.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I was in middle school and just starting

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<v Speaker 1>to explore that and realizing that I could like send

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<v Speaker 1>my creations out with people from that forum to be displayed.

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<v Speaker 1>H and first of all my parents being like, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't just you're just gonna send your lego to people

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<v Speaker 1>who are just gonna take it. But then also exploring

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<v Speaker 1>the adult lego community online and like when there's when

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<v Speaker 1>there's one like racy lego comic or someone builds something

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<v Speaker 1>fallacious out of Lego, like the fear of uh oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my parents are going to see this on the Internet

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<v Speaker 1>history and just shut it all down.

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<v Speaker 2>What what Let me ask you this, what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like are do people want to fuck legos?

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<v Speaker 1>Not not really no, but you know people do build

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<v Speaker 1>sexy anime girls out of Lego.

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<v Speaker 2>But how do you build a sexyan Like, oh, like

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<v Speaker 2>you make a okay when you like they make a

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<v Speaker 2>sexy anime girl figure out of Lego, but they don't

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<v Speaker 2>make like It's that like rule thirty four with the

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm thinking about the Lego people, not the people

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<v Speaker 2>that you make out of the break because I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about like the Lego the Yellow Lego people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like people want it. Not my scene, but I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the Lego Princess Leigh I'm sure was somebody's awakening.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I guess you can like draw because most of

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff is not that there's no form, it's all textures.

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<v Speaker 2>So like if you want to draw, like if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to give a Lego figure big breasts, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like two D drawn on top of a standard cyling

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<v Speaker 2>troll cylinder ish Torso.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, when was the last time you looked at like

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<v Speaker 1>a licensed Lego minifigure of a woman from a TV

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<v Speaker 1>TV show or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do it right now. Look at I'll look at

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<v Speaker 2>Lego porn right now. I have a computer. Hold on, no,

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<v Speaker 2>just like.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lego figures that come out in Star Wars or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's actually.

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<v Speaker 5>On it.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh oh look at this. Okay, I gotta go whoa wait,

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<v Speaker 2>this is crazy? Oh oh wait, yo, look guess what?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, all right, folks, I gotta shout out. I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta shout out. I gotta shout out. Pornhub dot com

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<v Speaker 2>slash h wood Rocket they made a they made this

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<v Speaker 2>porn parody. It's called the lay Go Movie Porn parody.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a little that's a reach. Don't you think they

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<v Speaker 2>should call it the late like lay you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>sex Lego the Lego movie and look at this there.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's actually I like the way they did it.

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<v Speaker 2>So the actor they start out, Okay, so you got

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<v Speaker 2>this guy and he's starting out and it's this is

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<v Speaker 2>a human being and he's wearing yellow face paint, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's wearing a big boxy Lego head thing and he's

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<v Speaker 2>dressed like what's his name?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, these are people in cobs play.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, oh yeah, this would be a constant. But then okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but then when they have sex, they're taking oh wait,

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<v Speaker 2>look at this. Okay, all right, So if you go

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<v Speaker 2>to porn Hub and you go to the lay Go

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<v Speaker 2>movie at four fourteen, there's there's they have like a

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<v Speaker 2>human being that's taking the Lego figures and mashing them

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<v Speaker 2>together and making them fuck, and then this is actually creative.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so they're making them fuck, and then cuts to okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now the real people are having sex, and they're still

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<v Speaker 2>they're not wearing the bodies anymore, but they're wearing the

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<v Speaker 2>Lego heads and the Lego their whole bodies are painted yellow,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're having sex with a condom and they're wearing

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<v Speaker 2>these big yellow things on and they're fully painted. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're fully painted and yellow. Even the condom is yellow

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<v Speaker 2>when painted. Or nipples. Yeah, I think this guy painted

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<v Speaker 2>his dick yellow either is that the condom or is

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<v Speaker 2>that the dick? You're not you're not also on here, right,

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<v Speaker 2>You're just you're waiting for me to stop talking about this.

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<v Speaker 1>That's correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, give me a little give me look may look

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<v Speaker 2>at let them look at the end credits. Guess how

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<v Speaker 2>many people it took to make this? One? Two three,

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<v Speaker 2>four five written by what do you means who? Someone

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<v Speaker 2>wrote this? This took at least ten people to make.

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<v Speaker 6>This.

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<v Speaker 2>Had a production manager, production manager George Glass, cinematographer Chad Lee,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody this set took a lot of people to make this,

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<v Speaker 2>had a sound mixer.

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<v Speaker 1>How many of those names are the same?

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<v Speaker 6>Repeated I? I.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just a good question. Oh wait, where does he come?

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck? Why? What does hold on? Oh? Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's actually that's kind of cute. Okay, so he comes? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So it shows a close up of the guy's face

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<v Speaker 2>and he's making like an ejaculation face, and then it

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<v Speaker 2>shows him like and then it has like little you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the little lega what you know what these are called

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<v Speaker 2>the little they're like little caps, you know, like little

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<v Speaker 2>Lego caps.

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<v Speaker 1>Little caps. Are you talking about the ironically named uh studs?

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<v Speaker 2>Like just yes, yes, yes, yeah, the ship that you

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<v Speaker 2>would collect in like the Lego Star Wars games.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So they have a close up of him and

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<v Speaker 2>he's coming and then you you can't see his dick,

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<v Speaker 2>but they have like a bunch of white studs that

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<v Speaker 2>are like being shot up in the air as if

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<v Speaker 2>he's like coming Lego. And then it cuts to the

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<v Speaker 2>lady's back and it's just like from off camera, like

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<v Speaker 2>they're throwing yet white studs on the lady's back and

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<v Speaker 2>she just has like all this like all these like

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<v Speaker 2>white studs laying on her that I guess are supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be like Lego. Come. Okay, let's see how many

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<v Speaker 2>of these names are Okay, a few of these names are, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but a lot of them aren't. Okay, Donnie Rock, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a real person. No, I mean that's yeah, that hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been Lee Roy Myers. Did he did he direct it to.

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I think these are a lot of individuals that made this.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this took at least ten individual people to make.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you still there?

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<v Speaker 1>I am still here. No, actually into it to have

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<v Speaker 1>access to enough of the white studs to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>not just as a gas.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's your favorite set? Before we go? What's your

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<v Speaker 2>favorite Lego set?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man? It's a bionical Terracava. It's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>Beast sets from two thousand and one, and it comes

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<v Speaker 1>with two wizards that they're back legs are treads and

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<v Speaker 1>they can punch each other like rock and sock and

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<v Speaker 1>robots and knock each other's masks off. I remade the

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<v Speaker 1>set a while ago, and it's one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bringing to this convention.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, that's awesome. That's sick. Yeah, it's like that seems

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<v Speaker 2>like a good way to meet people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your Do you have a dream set? I know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they're expensive. I know that, like they kind

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<v Speaker 2>of get up there. Do you have a dream one

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<v Speaker 2>that you hope to get one day?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man? So it was just anything the Legend of Zelda.

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<v Speaker 1>But they came out with the Lego Decu tree and

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<v Speaker 1>you can either build it to be from Operno time

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<v Speaker 1>or yeah, it's Operato time or Breath of the Wild.

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<v Speaker 1>There there's like a bifurcation in the instructions. You go

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<v Speaker 1>one way or the other, and it comes with the

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<v Speaker 1>minifigures for Breath of the Wild Zelda Breath of the

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<v Speaker 1>Wild link and Young and Adult link from Operative time.

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<v Speaker 1>So that way, like, that's what I wanted, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It was that's actually really sick. But that's really sick.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, hold on, Lego Dekou tree. Oh oh, this

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<v Speaker 2>is like a license and shit, oh this is like, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>this is three hundred dollars. That's crazy. I see why

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<v Speaker 2>this is three hundred dollars. This is probably like one

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<v Speaker 2>of their like big dick exclusive ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it actually feels pretty small for three hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>And part of that's because of the license bumping up

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<v Speaker 1>the price, and then part of it is because so

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<v Speaker 1>many of the parts only get used for one or

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<v Speaker 1>the other decu trees, So you end up with this

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<v Speaker 1>bag of leftover parts that you paid for but you

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<v Speaker 1>can't display.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so much Zelda porn. Wait, dude, hold on, the

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<v Speaker 2>get the fucking the same people who made the lay

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<v Speaker 2>go movie parody. Would Rocket also made a Legend of

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<v Speaker 2>Zelda one. They call it the Legend of Zildo. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like their names. They're reaches because that's like, what,

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<v Speaker 2>that's like a hold on? Why is it not? It's

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<v Speaker 2>not coming up the legend of Zildo because that's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's a reach. I guess it's supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be is a dildo, But why should there be

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<v Speaker 2>a dildo in there? Wouldn't they just be two people

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<v Speaker 2>having sex? What's your name?

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<v Speaker 1>Anything can be a Zelda game name. Just do the

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<v Speaker 1>like of Zelda Colon and then put whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if yeah, if I were, if I were, if

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<v Speaker 2>I were the CEO of woold, what's the name of

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<v Speaker 2>this company? Wood Hunters or some ship? If I were

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<v Speaker 2>the CEO wood Rocket, if I was the CEO of

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<v Speaker 2>wood Rocket, I would just call it the legend of

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<v Speaker 2>Zelda Colon sex. What's your name again?

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<v Speaker 1>Debts?

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<v Speaker 2>Debts. I hope you have a good time at this

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<v Speaker 2>Tornent tournament. I hope you have a good time at

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<v Speaker 2>this convention. It sounds like it's gonna be a fun time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I will. I think after doing it

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<v Speaker 1>for a few years. The Uh, it takes less and

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<v Speaker 1>less energy to have a good time and you can

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<v Speaker 1>relax and you know, be around people doing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of your favorite things.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. I love that. That's his anything else

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<v Speaker 2>you gonna say? The people of the computer before we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh read Land of the Lustrous. The manga, uh, underrated manga.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean watch the anime, but the manga gets way

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<v Speaker 1>better after the anime drops.

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<v Speaker 2>Rock and roll. Thank you very much, good luck at you.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a fun time at your at your convention.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I will.

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<v Speaker 2>By that's it did sound fun going to uh going

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<v Speaker 2>to a Lego convention. Dude, you guys really honestly, you

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<v Speaker 2>really I need you. Guys gotta go on porn Hub

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<v Speaker 2>and look at the Lego movie because it's a bizarre thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what I want to say is it's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>clearly supposed to be funny, but also like I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't because people must be jacking off to it.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the point Because it's supposed to be like funny,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's also supposed to be like horny, So who's

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<v Speaker 2>the target demographic? Also, I think this video has a

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<v Speaker 2>million views. Let me look it up. Let me look

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<v Speaker 2>at it again. Yeah, this has one point one million views.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people have watched this, and how many

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<v Speaker 2>of them? How many of these views are views of

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<v Speaker 2>people being like, oh this is funny lol, or like actually,

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<v Speaker 2>or like jacking off to it? I LEO, convention does

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<v Speaker 2>sound fun. Maybe I'll maybe I'll do something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Hello, Hi, Hi, what's your name? My

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<v Speaker 2>name's Barney, Barney.

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<v Speaker 6>What up?

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<v Speaker 2>Barney has life?

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<v Speaker 4>It's going good man. I just got off work. I

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<v Speaker 4>had a pretty nice day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you sound like you had a pretty nice day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's going great.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>My son's at the doctor right now, is two year

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<v Speaker 4>check up, so a little said that he's not home yet,

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<v Speaker 4>but excited to see him later.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a son, Yeah that's cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah you're parent. Two July seventeenth.

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<v Speaker 2>How's having a son?

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<v Speaker 4>It's pretty cool, man. I mean I think it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's like the ultimate experience as a human

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<v Speaker 4>is just like being a parent, you know, experiencing them

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<v Speaker 4>and like teaching them everything.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have I don't have kids, but I imagine

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<v Speaker 2>that that's when you become an actual adult. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I I'm only twenty, you know, so you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Only twenty Yeah, Oh my goodness. Okay, I'm glad. Okay

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<v Speaker 2>honestly because when you said you were having because when

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<v Speaker 2>you said you had kids, I was like, this guy

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<v Speaker 2>is probably like in his thirties, but I am imagining

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<v Speaker 2>him wearing a Monster Energy shirt and a DC snap

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<v Speaker 2>back and it doesn't really fit well with what my

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<v Speaker 2>image was of you. But now I'm thinking you still

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<v Speaker 2>could be wearing those clothes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, I'm not wearing them right now, but

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<v Speaker 4>I do. SKay, And so that's kind of the fast Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>they're in the wardrobe. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn man, what's up with the wife girlfriend, baby mama?

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<v Speaker 2>What's what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I refer to her as my wife, but we're

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<v Speaker 4>not married yet due to like you know, financial reasons

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<v Speaker 4>and like legal reasons, so it's just not the right

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<v Speaker 4>time for that yet.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>By I love that. By the way, why the fuck not?

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<v Speaker 2>It's all of it. It's all made up. It's all

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<v Speaker 2>completely made up. It Why you can start, You can

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<v Speaker 2>start as long as she agrees, like any you can

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<v Speaker 2>start calling a woman you're in a relationship with your wife.

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<v Speaker 2>As long as she also agrees to be your wife,

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<v Speaker 2>it can be that easy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it really is. I mean there's no reason to

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<v Speaker 4>go and spend a bunch of money. I mean there'll

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<v Speaker 4>be a time where we'll be able to do that,

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<v Speaker 4>but just not right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, but for all intensive purposes, she might as well

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<v Speaker 2>be your wife.

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<v Speaker 6>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean what what what did it mean? What

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<v Speaker 2>did it mean for somebody to be your wife?

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<v Speaker 6>In like the.

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<v Speaker 2>When did monogamy really get going? Do we know the

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<v Speaker 2>answer to that?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it?

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<v Speaker 6>Like in.

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<v Speaker 4>I have no idea, but I would assume that it's

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<v Speaker 4>like a pretty early thing, you know, because I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like parenting the child and stuff like. Typically both parties

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<v Speaker 4>would be involved for that, even back in like the

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<v Speaker 4>Hunter Gathered Days.

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<v Speaker 2>With the Hunter Gathered Days, monog I wish we had

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<v Speaker 2>a Yeah, a lot of a lot of podcasts they have,

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<v Speaker 2>like a guy at the computer, Well, I guess that's me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at the computer. All right. Let me let me

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<v Speaker 2>look at this all right? What we're hunter gatherer tribes

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<v Speaker 2>monogamous or hunter gather Okay, Hunter gatherer societies generally practiced

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<v Speaker 2>a form of monogamy, but with significant variations and accepts

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<v Speaker 2>and exceptions. Okay, so they were swingers long well, well, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's just a joke.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>While long term pair bonds were common and socially recognized

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<v Speaker 2>as marriages, polygamy particularly polygony okay, okay, poly okay. Polygamy

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<v Speaker 2>is it's a free for all. Polygony is when just

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<v Speaker 2>the guy gets to have multiple.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that makes sense. Back in the day, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the warlord or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, apparently, okay, monogamy was the primary form. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of men having multiple wives. I'll get this.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were a successful hunter, or you had higher

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<v Speaker 2>social status, you had more wives. Yeah, okay, that's that.

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<v Speaker 2>That tracks. Wait what is it? What does this say?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Unlike some primates, hunter gatherers didn't have consistent sex specific

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<v Speaker 2>dispersal patterns at maturity, meaning the sex that leaves the

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<v Speaker 2>natal group varied across different societies. What the fuck does

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<v Speaker 2>that mean?

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<v Speaker 4>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. I asked if you would have

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<v Speaker 2>any idea if I would have? Yeah, Okay, well that's

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<v Speaker 2>enough googling. Let's get off the computer.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the computer's bed for your brain.

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<v Speaker 2>How long have you been with your wife?

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<v Speaker 4>We've been together for We were together for like about

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<v Speaker 4>a year before my son was born, for like like

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<v Speaker 4>three years.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it an accident or was it planned?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, so, the interesting thing is it was like kind

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<v Speaker 4>of both. You could say you had.

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<v Speaker 2>Unprotected sex and when if it happens, it happens.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, pretty much, because at the time we were kind

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<v Speaker 4>of you know, we were doing a lot of drugs

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<v Speaker 4>and whatnot, and you know, we kind of thought that

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<v Speaker 4>was a good idea. We were like, let's just have

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<v Speaker 4>a kid. Fuck it, we'll be parents and probably make

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<v Speaker 4>us stop doing drugs, which it did. It worked.

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<v Speaker 2>Not my favorite sobriety plan, but if it works, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I probably wouldn't recommend it. It's not easy, but works

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<v Speaker 4>for us.

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<v Speaker 2>How long has it been. How long have you guys

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<v Speaker 2>been sober?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>She pretty much. I mean yeah, it's kind of crazy

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<v Speaker 4>because we both had been doing drugs since we're like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, middle school age and stuff, and then when

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<v Speaker 4>she got pregnant, she just quit everything cold turkey pretty much,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was pretty impressive. It took me a little

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<v Speaker 4>longer to wean off but yeah, pretty much, ever since

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<v Speaker 4>she was pregnant with them, we've been.

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<v Speaker 2>Sober, pretty good, pretty good. Uh Man, you're twenty. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you guys do for work?

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm like a maintenance guys, So I like work

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<v Speaker 4>in an apartment complex and I just go around and

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<v Speaker 4>like flip apartments and fix people's ship. And then my

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<v Speaker 4>wife she works at the daycare that our son goes to,

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<v Speaker 4>so we get a nice discount there. She makes pretty

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<v Speaker 4>good money teaching over there, the lead teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>That's nice. Should we uh not not should do? Is

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<v Speaker 2>our our parents helping out or are either of your

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<v Speaker 2>parents helping out with stuff?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? My mom will buy me groceries every once in

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<v Speaker 4>a while, and then my dad will help out if

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<v Speaker 4>we ever need help with bills, which right now we've

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<v Speaker 4>been doing pretty good. But it's nice to have that support.

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<v Speaker 4>And most of all, it's just like the babysitting support.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm really grateful for that because we still

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<v Speaker 4>kind of get the chance to go hang out with

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<v Speaker 4>our friends and stuff and we're not having to, like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, pay for a babysitter or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, do you have what what?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>How old is your wife? Same age twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she's the same age. She's turning twenty one next month.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. Well, you know, let me ask you this. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me ask you this. Did you call in today to

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about something specific? Like is anything going

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<v Speaker 2>on in your life? I guess that's new.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean kind of because I know you've talked about

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<v Speaker 4>it on here before. That you go to like a

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<v Speaker 4>Smash Bros. Tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I don't know why. Just that wasn't the

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<v Speaker 2>That wasn't the direction I thought this was going.

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<v Speaker 3>To go in.

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<v Speaker 4>But go on, Yeah, but yeah, I don't play Smash Bros.

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<v Speaker 4>But I play another fighting game. And I was really

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<v Speaker 4>hyped till I go to this tournament this one time

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<v Speaker 4>and I went There's like a monthly tournament in my town,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I went there and played this. It's Dragonball Fighters,

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 4>the pretty firefighting game. I'd recommend it. But I pulled

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<v Speaker 4>up to do the tournament and it was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 4>But like, I don't know, I'm just a pretty like

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<v Speaker 4>socially awkward guy and it was just weird. And I

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<v Speaker 4>haven't gone back since, and it was like a few

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<v Speaker 4>months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>See the superpower of going to a video game tournament

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<v Speaker 2>as a socially awkward, guy, is that like you've developed

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<v Speaker 2>I assume like you went to high school and you

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<v Speaker 2>have you have friends, and what you developed social awkwardness

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<v Speaker 2>at like a regular like an normal baseline, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. So when you go to like a

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<v Speaker 2>video game tournament, you have to understand that your social awkwardness,

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<v Speaker 2>like your level of social awkwardness is above the baseline

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<v Speaker 2>level of social awkwardness at this event.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I guess that's a fair point.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. So, like I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>can go, you can go up to anyone and start

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<v Speaker 2>talking to them at this tournament, and if if they're

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<v Speaker 2>being weird, that's on them, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Your when you when you go to what I believe this,

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I fully believe this, And this is

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not just trying to be whatever about like video

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<v Speaker 2>game tournaments. I love going to video game tournaments, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's actually are there are a lot of really cool

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<v Speaker 2>people that uh hang out in the Smash Bros. Scene

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<v Speaker 2>that I've met. Any social event Smash Bros Tournament, a party, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a bar, some some settings, not all of

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 2>our settings, but some bar settings, you know, But specifically

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 2>at clubs or whatever. In any of it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you go out of your way to make conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with someone, you are abiding in good faith to the

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 2>social contract. Okay, you're not breaking any for saying interacting

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 2>with a person in and of itself is lawfully abiding

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 2>by social contract. Okay, it because it's only if only if, like,

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:34.440
<v Speaker 2>you're talking to someone there and they're making it pretty

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 2>abundantly clear that they don't want to talk to you,

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 2>then you start to break the social contract if you

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 2>continue to talk to them. But a lot of people

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 2>do that because they they aren't aware of the cues

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 2>that somebody doesn't want to keep talking to them. But

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, generally, I think if you're lawfully abid it,

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 2>you're just you're not being a dick. You know, if

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 2>somebody is being cold to you at a fucking thing

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 2>where people go, sure to play video games, sure to knit,

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 2>sure to whatever the fucking thing underneath everything is. But really,

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 2>people go places to meet other people. I think, I assume,

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 2>so you're playing the rules of the game here, So

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 2>if someone gives you the cold shoulder, that's on them. Fuck.

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I want to say, damn it, I don't know if

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 2>I told this. I don't know if I talked about

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 2>this on the podcast before. Maybe I did. Stop me,

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 2>do you listen to this podcast or did.

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 4>You find all the time at work? I'll let you

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 4>know if I've heard.

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 6>Okay, let me know.

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me know if I've talk because I feel

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 2>like I've repeated myself a lot on here anyway, but

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay, do you okay? Do you remember I did

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 2>an episode in the park where, uh, this woman invited

0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 2>me to like a party afterwards afterwards? Yeah, yeah, so

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:07.719
<v Speaker 2>I went. I went to this party. Shout out, shout out,

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 2>shout out, Rachel. Rachel's cool. But she invited me to this.

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 3>Thing.

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 2>And she invited me this thing at this guy's house,

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 2>and I show up and she's not. At first, she's

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 2>not there, which is funny. She's not there. And then

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 2>but there was like, I'm just like in some guy's

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 2>house and there's four people sitting at a table and

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm just in this guy's house and nobody knows who

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:38.959
<v Speaker 2>I am.

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 3>And so.

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 2>I start talking to one of the guys and I'm like, hey, man,

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 2>what's your name? And I don't remember his actual name,

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 2>but he goes like on Brian, and I'm like, okay,

0:30:56.720 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 2>uh what uh, how's how's your how's your day going?

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 2>What's up?

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Man?

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 2>How's life? And he's like us, you know, it's all right.

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 2>And then I'm and then I'm like, oh what do

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 2>you what do you do around the city? And he goes, oh,

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I I'm a hairstylist. And I'm like okay, and now okay,

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 2>and so and and and then in that moment, right, okay,

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 2>and that that's a key That's a crucial moment for

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 2>me in that evening because in that moment, I am

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 2>in a stranger's house that that I was invited to

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 2>by a different stranger. I really shouldn't be there, and

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 2>that and and and that interaction with that hairstylist guy

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 2>is a clear for like, I didn't want to talk

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 2>to me. And that's but if and here's the thing,

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 2>if I had interpreted him not wanting to talk to

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 2>me as I should not talk to anyone. I'm I'm

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 2>a freak. Why would anyone want to talk to me?

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Of course, this guy I doesn't want to talk to me.

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, why would anyone want to talk to me?

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 2>I suck? I'm a freak, I'm weird. Nobody this is

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't be here, you know. I would have gone

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 2>home and that would have been the end of my evening.

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 2>But I stuck around for a little bit, and then

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 2>more people started coming to the event. Okay, and then

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 2>I went up to this one lady at the event

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, Hey, what's up. How's your Shabbat going?

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 2>And she was like, oh, it's going good. How about you?

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 2>What's how's how are you doing? And I'm like, all right,

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 2>here we go see, you know, and then we had

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 2>a conversation. I started talking to other people. It was good,

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 2>it was fun. I had a fun evening. I met

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 2>people as a fun party. It was a great time.

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 2>But if but if in that one moment where it

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 2>was a little bit weird and I there was the

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 2>one person I mustered up the courage to talk to,

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 2>I was rebuffed by if in that one moment I

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 2>had been like, designed that I am a weirdo and

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't be here, I would have never tried again.

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 2>And then met somebody who is who and then met

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 2>another person who is like, oh yes, I also came

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 2>to this social event to socialize, you know, they're out there.

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 2>But but yeah, so everything most of you have to

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 2>just remember and understand that so many of the interaction

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 2>this is the part I think I've talked about on

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 2>the fucking show a bunch of all the time. But like,

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 2>so many of the interactions that you have have nothing

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 2>to do with you at all. Yeah, so yeah, next

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 2>time I've talked about I feel like I've talked about this.

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 2>We talked to the anime guy. I think that was

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 2>mainly when I talked to Yeah, I don't you remember

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 2>that guy you wanted to go to an anime convention?

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 2>But he was yeah, And it's like, yeah, I said,

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 2>I fucking said that to that guy, Like, yeah, you

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 2>know you're gonna go to this anime invention. If the

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 2>first person you talked to is kind of cold to you,

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 2>you can't let that stop you from, you know, putting

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 2>yourself out there because uh, you know, you might who

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 2>knows when. And also I try, I know by the

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 2>way I'm I'm I'm gonna throw myself out here in

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 2>a way that I try not to, you know, within

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 2>the best of my abilities. Sometimes maybe I'm like, uh,

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:27.360
<v Speaker 2>my brain has many you know I have I'm crazy

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 2>and my brain has short circuits a lot. But I try.

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 2>I try, really, I do try. Like I try to

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 2>be mindful. Like if I'm in a social situation, if

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm at a party or an event or a tournament

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 2>or a meeting or something, and I see somebody and

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 2>somebody start talking to me, and I'm like, Oh, I'm

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 2>the guy that they this. I'm like the first person

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:53.839
<v Speaker 2>that this guy has mosted up the courage to talk

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 2>to it.

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:54.400
<v Speaker 6>This thing.

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 2>I'll try. It's really important to me that I I

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 2>want to reward or that, you know, because if I

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 2>see it from that end, I think that's an important

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 2>thing to do too, is to be mindful. If you're

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 2>at a thing, if somebody's coming to you with the

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 2>energy of like, hey, what's that man, what's your name,

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:16.279
<v Speaker 2>to be like, Hey, I'm Loyle, what's your name? How

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 2>are you doing? What's up? You know, try to make

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:22.320
<v Speaker 2>people feel welcome. You know, if I'm if I'm in

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:24.319
<v Speaker 2>a if I'm talking to a circle, if I'm talking

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:27.399
<v Speaker 2>to like a circle of people, I'll try to look

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 2>at everyone in the circle, you know, make eye contact

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 2>with it, because you know, we've all been there, we've

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 2>all been in a circle of people and everyone's talking,

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 2>and you'd notice that nobody's who's talking is looking at you,

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, oh, I'm not I don't even am I.

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if I'm a part of this

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 2>circle right now, you know, So try to do that.

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think I had some experience recently that

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 2>was reflective of this, but oh yeah, well no, this

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.320
<v Speaker 2>wasn't recent. This is an old story.

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 3>I was. I was.

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 2>I was in uh I. I was in uh Rome.

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I got to study abroad there, which was nice, and

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 2>uh I was didd I was with like some one

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 2>of some of the other kids from the program, and

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 2>we were like eating. We were like standing outside of

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 2>a pizza place, just like at like a standing table,

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:37.879
<v Speaker 2>and this random Polish girl who was probably around our age,

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 2>we were a little older, just walks up to the

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:44.720
<v Speaker 2>table with her pizza and she goes, I'm here alone

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 2>and I don't have anyone else to eat with, so

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna eat with you guys. And I was like,

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I remember, I remember being like, whoa, that's fucking wild,

0:36:56.800 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 2>that's wild. I respected that so much. I was really like,

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, what a what a fucking swing. I

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 2>gotta uh, I wanted I gotta reward that swing. I

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 2>think the other one of the whoever, the other kid

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:12.399
<v Speaker 2>I was with, was more like, oh, that's a little

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:14.799
<v Speaker 2>fucking weird. But I was like, no, that's a that's

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 2>a this person's gonna be fine for the rest of

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:20.439
<v Speaker 2>their lives. You know, this person's gonna have a great

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 2>rest of their life. That's such a fearless thing to do.

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.320
<v Speaker 2>We had a nice conversation, and you know, we I

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:29.360
<v Speaker 2>ate with them, and that was good. I was that

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I only met that woman once, but she continues to

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 2>inspire me for the rest of my life. That was

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 2>when I was like twenty I'm twenty seven. I still

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:41.800
<v Speaker 2>remember that I had. That's something similar happened.

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 6>I was the.

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 2>I was like eating alone. What this is when I

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 2>was like doing comedy in Philadelphia. I was eating alone

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 2>at this like burrito place, and there were no seats

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 2>left except the one across from me and this guy

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 2>he's older than me, and he was like, there's nowhere

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:04.800
<v Speaker 2>else to sit, so I'm gonna sit with you, and

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 2>then uh, he just we just start talking and again

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 2>he that harkened me back to the girl in Rome.

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is a confident move and he

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 2>he was like, what are you doing. I was like, oh,

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 2>I was doing comedy and he was like, tell me

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:22.839
<v Speaker 2>a joke. And I was like, no, that's not really

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 2>how it works, you know. And then it was like

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 2>but he was just so confident. I felt like a jerk,

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:30.879
<v Speaker 2>because if you tell a comedian to tell to tell

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 2>you a joke, you're kind of being a jerk. But

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:34.799
<v Speaker 2>I was the jerk for not so I just tell

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 2>him joke. And I told him a joke and he

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 2>was like, that's not very funny, and it made me, like,

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:42.839
<v Speaker 2>it made me laugh a lot. I was like, who

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:45.440
<v Speaker 2>is this guy? I want to be? I want I

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 2>want to sprinkle of what this guy has. This is

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 2>really good. Yeah, but yeah, throughout I just throughout my life,

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I've learned a little tricks too. Occasionally, like I'll be

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 2>at a little some social function or some thing, and

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 2>if I'm in the right headspace, I will like go

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 2>up to a group and be like, again, if I'm

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 2>in the like, if I'm if I'm like depressed and

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:15.239
<v Speaker 2>anxious and weird, I wouldn't I won't ever do this.

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 2>But if I'm like if I got a little bit,

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 2>if I get a little bit of caffeine and it's

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:26.280
<v Speaker 2>just been a good day and I'm i self esteem

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 2>is coursing through my veins. You can I'll just go

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 2>up to a group and I'll be like, hey, can

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:34.800
<v Speaker 2>I join this conversation? You know, it depends on what

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:37.280
<v Speaker 2>it is. Like, if it's like a bar, I wouldn't.

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I won't do that because that's you know what it

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:42.480
<v Speaker 2>could be a group that came out in and of

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:44.320
<v Speaker 2>themselves to have a good time with each other. I

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 2>don't want to disrupt the sanctity of that. But if

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 2>it's but if I go to something, but if I

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 2>go to like a I don't know, I go to

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:54.799
<v Speaker 2>all these weird things around New York, Yeah, where it's

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 2>like come meet now. Well, like if it's if it's

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 2>a thing where like the point of the thing is

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 2>to meet new people, then it's very easy for me

0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:05.440
<v Speaker 2>to go up and be like, hey, you guys all

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 2>doing But yeah, that's why it's it's best to go

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 2>to places like that where the point of the context

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 2>is important, right. I would never go up like because

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, the bar is different from the place where

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 2>if I'm at an event where the point of the

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 2>event is to talk to people, then I'm you know,

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:31.320
<v Speaker 2>I have the benefit of the doubt when I attempt

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 2>to have a conversation with someone. So anyway, that was

0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 2>a long rant.

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 6>But.

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:40.279
<v Speaker 2>I believe at your dragon ball Z I believe at

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 2>your dragon ball Z tournaments you have the benefit of

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 2>the doubt when having a conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think the odds are probably stacked in my favorite.

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Odds just ACKed in your favor. Yeah, just keep going

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:57.760
<v Speaker 2>to places where odds are stacked in your favor.

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a good idea, Thank you, GAK.

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's weird. Some places are someplaces odds are clear,

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Like like like if I see sometimes I'll be at

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 2>like the the park and I'll see someone I want

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:20.320
<v Speaker 2>to talk to, and I like have a fantasy in

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 2>my head. I'm like, what if I went over and

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 2>talked to that person? And then I'll be like, yeah,

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 2>but the context of the that's too iffy of a context,

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, because who knows this, Yeah, they might just

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 2>want to be alone. But if it's like at some

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:42.840
<v Speaker 2>fucking a bar, is a bar is a weird in

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 2>between context because one can reasonably expect that one goes

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 2>out to bars to meet people. One could also reasonably

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 2>expect one goes out to bars to just be hanging

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 2>out with their friends. That's a little like that. Context

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 2>takes a little bit more courage. But if it's a

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 2>thing where everyone has a fucking name tag on, that's easy.

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<v Speaker 6>Mm hmm.

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 2>What's your name again? I wish I could put name

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 2>tags on the callers.

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:10.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that'd be pretty sweet, if there's a way to

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 4>do that.

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Of my name is Barney, Barney, Barney, you have you

0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 2>have a two year old son? That's insane.

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's pretty cool.

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.919
<v Speaker 2>Good luck with that. I mean that sincerely. I don't

0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 2>mean that in a uh you know away.

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:31.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, someone, I appreciate that.

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Someone called into shout out, Shout out Stavros Halkius. I'm

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:40.360
<v Speaker 2>a big fan of his podcast. I listened. I listened

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:46.279
<v Speaker 2>to it to sleep and uh. He had a caller

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 2>on once who talked about like having a kid when

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 2>he was eighteen, and he brought up he was like, yo,

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 2>when you're thirty six, because like if I like, if

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 2>I have a kid when I'm like I'm twenty seven,

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:01.239
<v Speaker 2>if I have a kid when I'm thirty six, I'm

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 2>gonna just be getting started with all of that.

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Right, but by the time you're thirty six, you'll be

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're never done, but you know what I mean,

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 2>you're you'll be done ish.

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:11.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:15.719
<v Speaker 2>So that's pretty that's pretty cool. That's pretty good.

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:18.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it is pretty cool that it works out like that.

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there were, there were there. I think there are

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot of advantages to you know, they're they're not

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 2>talked about as much as the disadvantages and the hardships

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 2>of it, But there are advantages I think to being

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 2>a younger parent in that way.

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think I see all the bright side of it,

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 4>you know, I like to look at it with the

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 4>positive perspective.

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, but do you say your name is Brian.

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 4>It's Barney, Barney like the Dinosaur.

0:43:56.480 --> 0:44:00.399
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for letting me talk to myself and you for yeah,

0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:04.759
<v Speaker 2>I minutes, Sparney. I appreciate it. I did have one

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, go ahead, please.

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:10.839
<v Speaker 4>One more thing? On the recent podcast, man, why were

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:13.840
<v Speaker 4>you so weird about the hand guy? I thought it

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 4>was cool.

0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:19.840
<v Speaker 2>It was a little hold on, it was a little bizarre.

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:23.800
<v Speaker 4>It is bizarre, but I thought it was cool.

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Were you the one that do you make a comment

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:27.800
<v Speaker 2>on Spotify or something.

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 4>Perhaps I did make a comment that yeah, okay, I.

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Was okay because I did. If that wasn't you, I

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.239
<v Speaker 2>was gonna be like, why are multiple people saying this?

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, no, I'm probably just the one weird guy

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:45.920
<v Speaker 4>that thought the hand thing was cool.

0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 2>I thought, I really want to know. I wanted to

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:49.759
<v Speaker 2>talk to the hand guy, but he didn't want to

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 2>like sit down and fully talk.

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:55.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's just trying to get his hand picks and get.

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Out of there, and he can have if he wants to.

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:01.120
<v Speaker 2>Honest honestly, listen, if that guy wants to take a

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 2>picture of my hand and jerk off to it, it

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:05.480
<v Speaker 2>really hurts me in zero wait shape or for him.

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:10.759
<v Speaker 4>I don't think he's jerking off. Man, I did not

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:11.359
<v Speaker 4>get them.

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:14.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. We'll never We'll never know. I mean,

0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 2>maybe i'll see him at the park again. Who knows.

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's the hand park guy.

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:22.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, maybe maybe he prowls there for hand picks often.

0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Barney, good luck and I will see you around the universe.

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:30.320
<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 4>I will see you around the universe while have a

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:33.719
<v Speaker 4>good day.

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Man you too. Bye Barney.

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:36.279
<v Speaker 3>Bye.

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's yeah, talking to people's the whole thing. It's

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 2>something I'd like to be good at. It's way easier

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 2>to do it on a podcast. I think, I'm I

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 2>think I'm pretty good at it, not on a podcast,

0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 2>but it's way easier to do on a podcast. And

0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:02.520
<v Speaker 2>it's all it's it's not about confidence. It's about context,

0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:04.760
<v Speaker 2>or I guess it is about confidence, And the amount

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 2>of confidence I have is based on the context, right,

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, like if I'm in the gecko suit and

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:14.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm chatting with somebody, I have more confidence in that

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:20.239
<v Speaker 2>context because I'm you know, there's a reason for me

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:21.759
<v Speaker 2>to be talking to this person. If I just go

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:25.880
<v Speaker 2>up to somebody randomly at the park, if I were

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:27.840
<v Speaker 2>just starting to ran, If I just went up to

0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 2>somebody randomly at the park and just started being like, Hey,

0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 2>can you tell me about your life, that'd be a

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 2>weird that would feel uncomfortable. But I but if I'm ware,

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 2>But if I set up a bunch of cameras and

0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 2>I if I set up a camera and I wear

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:44.840
<v Speaker 2>a gecko suit and a person comes over to me

0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:49.440
<v Speaker 2>and we engage in this thing to make this podcast,

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 2>then the context is completely different, even if the actual

0:46:55.160 --> 0:47:04.399
<v Speaker 2>conversation is the same. Boogers, Hello, Lyle, Hi, what's your name, sir?

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:06.719
<v Speaker 6>My name is CJ.

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:08.360
<v Speaker 2>CJ. What's going on?

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 6>Man? Man, so much is going on. I'm glad you answered.

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:20.800
<v Speaker 6>I feel like I'm just stuck at this point in

0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 6>my life and I don't know I could I could

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:27.920
<v Speaker 6>use some advice on maybe what to do or to

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:30.960
<v Speaker 6>know maybe I'm going in the right direction or I

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 6>don't know, man, I just feel really stuck in the

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:35.359
<v Speaker 6>sense of hopelessness.

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I can ponder this with you. I can ponder this

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 2>with you. What do you feel stuck about?

0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:52.680
<v Speaker 6>My job? So right now, I do like hard labor,

0:47:53.400 --> 0:48:00.120
<v Speaker 6>and you I make decent money. It's nothing incredible. It's

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:03.520
<v Speaker 6>not like I rolling in the dough or anything. You know,

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:08.360
<v Speaker 6>I have three kids and a wife, and you know,

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:12.800
<v Speaker 6>we have all all of the the bills that go

0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:18.359
<v Speaker 6>with that, and right man, I just I wake up

0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:24.719
<v Speaker 6>and I just hate like just waking up and knowing

0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:27.160
<v Speaker 6>I'm going to go spend all day in the heat.

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:31.880
<v Speaker 6>It's just absolutely miserable. And it just sucks because you know,

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 6>they've promised me so much there and because I can

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:38.560
<v Speaker 6>do other stuff you know, like I've built them a

0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 6>website and you know, all the stuff, and you know,

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 6>they promised me, oh, you know, we could do like

0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:46.560
<v Speaker 6>a hybrid schedule with you where you can work in

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:51.439
<v Speaker 6>the office and you can you know, do your regular job,

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:55.880
<v Speaker 6>and all the promises have just gone to shit. So

0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:59.719
<v Speaker 6>now I'm just stuck doing my regular job and I'm

0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 6>going to school. But like, I want to start my

0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:06.279
<v Speaker 6>own business because I'm I'm so sick of feeling like this.

0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:10.000
<v Speaker 6>I'm so miserable. And my wife works opposite shift, so

0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:12.840
<v Speaker 6>like today, you know, I worked all day just to

0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:14.919
<v Speaker 6>come home and see her for thirty minutes and she's

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:18.520
<v Speaker 6>been gone for an hour now, and I don't know

0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:20.799
<v Speaker 6>that that is how I feel stuck. I just feel

0:49:21.440 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 6>like we're in this cycle just repeating itself over and

0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:28.640
<v Speaker 6>over and over, and it's like, hmmm, we can't ever

0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 6>get ahead financially, you know. I'm you know, we could

0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 6>pay our bills on time and stuff, but it's not

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:34.719
<v Speaker 6>like we have a bunch of money left over.

0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Howl. How old are kids?

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:41.080
<v Speaker 5>Four?

0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:43.120
<v Speaker 6>Two and five months?

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:45.319
<v Speaker 2>Shit?

0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:45.640
<v Speaker 3>Man?

0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:48.239
<v Speaker 2>How old are you?

0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:51.480
<v Speaker 6>I turned twenty nine in June.

0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:59.239
<v Speaker 2>Man, Well, here's I'll look I'm gonna tell you something

0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:02.240
<v Speaker 2>real quick. What's your name again, CJ?

0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 6>C J.

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you something real quick off the bat.

0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Your life situation is very different from mine because you

0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:12.719
<v Speaker 2>have three kids. So I'm not qualified to give you

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:17.600
<v Speaker 2>advice in any way, shape or form. But we can talk.

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:23.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious, I have questions, I have maybe thoughts, but yeah,

0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:26.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm not qualified to advise about this in any way,

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:26.799
<v Speaker 2>shape or form.

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:27.839
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 2>You said that your promises were not fulfilled like this company? Yeah, yeah,

0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:36.600
<v Speaker 2>talking with you.

0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:40.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, like over the winter, it gets a

0:50:40.440 --> 0:50:42.920
<v Speaker 6>little slower because like I work outside, but we do

0:50:43.080 --> 0:50:44.200
<v Speaker 6>like snowplowing stuff.

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:47.920
<v Speaker 2>But you know, they're like, and you're going to and

0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 2>you're going to school, all right, So I'm gonna just

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:51.640
<v Speaker 2>I'll just cut to the chase on that one, and

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say, look, this company is telling you things

0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:56.200
<v Speaker 2>and they're not keeping their promises, and there ain't a

0:50:56.239 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 2>lot you can do about that, right, So what what

0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:01.160
<v Speaker 2>what are you going to school for?

0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:05.360
<v Speaker 6>I'm going to school for marketing.

0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:08.799
<v Speaker 2>You're going to school for marketing. You said you're going

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:10.320
<v Speaker 2>to school and you want to start a business.

0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:15.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I want to start a marketing company. I have

0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:18.640
<v Speaker 6>a lot of experience. Me and my wife lived in

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 6>the Denver area, and I started and founded our own

0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:26.120
<v Speaker 6>little cleaning company, and you know, I did all the marketing,

0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:29.080
<v Speaker 6>and you know, I grew it within a year where

0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:30.960
<v Speaker 6>we had two employees. You know, I was doing all

0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 6>the payroll, just you know, every single thing within a business.

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:34.439
<v Speaker 4>I was doing.

0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:35.759
<v Speaker 2>What happened to the company, And.

0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:41.640
<v Speaker 6>Well, we moved and it was during COVID, so it

0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 6>kind of we moved and the business was kind of

0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:49.360
<v Speaker 6>slowing down because of COVID, and so I just I

0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:52.200
<v Speaker 6>just shut it down and we moved back to where

0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:53.239
<v Speaker 6>where we were from.

0:51:53.480 --> 0:52:00.799
<v Speaker 2>So where where are you from? Where are you from from?

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:01.200
<v Speaker 6>Utah?

0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay? Which place is cheaper to live in?

0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:11.320
<v Speaker 6>I would say Utah. In Denver, we were paying the

0:52:11.400 --> 0:52:13.759
<v Speaker 6>same price what we're paying right now, which is like

0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:17.879
<v Speaker 6>twenty two hundred in Denver, though it was a one bed,

0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:21.920
<v Speaker 6>one bath, like eight hundred square feet, and here in Utah,

0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:25.480
<v Speaker 6>twenty two hundred is getting us a three bed, two

0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:27.959
<v Speaker 6>bath and it's about sixteen hundred square feet.

0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:30.520
<v Speaker 2>So I really Utah, I really feel like I'm on

0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:32.640
<v Speaker 2>the Dave Ramsey Show right now. I don't know how

0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:37.960
<v Speaker 2>my show ended up accidentally becoming like Dave Ramsey Show,

0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:41.279
<v Speaker 2>except instead of an old Christian man, it's just a

0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 2>just some dumb guy. It doesn't know what he's talking about.

0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:47.000
<v Speaker 6>But I.

0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, man, So I got well, I'm curious about this.

0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Why are you, like, are you going into debt to

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:55.320
<v Speaker 2>go to school?

0:52:57.560 --> 0:52:57.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:52:57.920 --> 0:52:58.759
<v Speaker 6>I am hold on?

0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Why the all right? All right? Why the fuck are

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:02.279
<v Speaker 2>you doing that?

0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:08.279
<v Speaker 6>Because I feel, like I said, I feel stuck. So

0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:11.280
<v Speaker 6>like I've been doing you know, hard labor and construction

0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:13.359
<v Speaker 6>like all my life, you know, right right.

0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Sorry started to interrupt you, but I get the notion

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:25.040
<v Speaker 2>of you're doing because you feel stuck. You're trying to

0:53:25.160 --> 0:53:28.359
<v Speaker 2>extend outside of your routine into something greater. I think

0:53:28.400 --> 0:53:33.719
<v Speaker 2>that's awesome. I think that's great, right, But to me

0:53:35.080 --> 0:53:39.759
<v Speaker 2>to go get a degree in marketing to like what

0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:41.520
<v Speaker 2>to like, are you getting a degree in marketing to

0:53:41.600 --> 0:53:44.759
<v Speaker 2>start your own business or to like get a job or.

0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:50.480
<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean I just kind of both, Like I

0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:54.359
<v Speaker 6>would want a degree to start a business so someone

0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 6>knows that I'm credible, you know what I mean? Yeah?

0:53:57.320 --> 0:54:02.040
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, but dude, okay, actually I do feel I

0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:05.280
<v Speaker 2>do feel fairly confident in this advice is like, Okay,

0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:11.560
<v Speaker 2>you know you're in a rut and you're extending outside

0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:17.000
<v Speaker 2>of your rut to try to do something, which, by

0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:19.040
<v Speaker 2>the way, man, what's your name again, I'm sorry I

0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:19.719
<v Speaker 2>bod with names.

0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:22.160
<v Speaker 6>No, you're fine. CJ.

0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:25.760
<v Speaker 2>CJ. By the way, CJ. Just so you know, I really,

0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:28.080
<v Speaker 2>truly I commend you for doing that because you have

0:54:28.160 --> 0:54:32.879
<v Speaker 2>a tough life, having three fucking kids, barely seeing your wife,

0:54:33.200 --> 0:54:37.560
<v Speaker 2>always working, and still finding time to change because a

0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:41.080
<v Speaker 2>lot of times like there's only enough time and energy

0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:44.920
<v Speaker 2>for maintenance, and then to act some kind of change

0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:48.759
<v Speaker 2>is like you have to dig fucking beyond yourself and

0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:53.200
<v Speaker 2>it's really really hard. So I commend you for even

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:53.840
<v Speaker 2>trying to do that.

0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:54.440
<v Speaker 4>I really do.

0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:57.640
<v Speaker 6>I appreciate it. And that's why I'm trying to start

0:54:57.640 --> 0:54:58.600
<v Speaker 6>a business or something.

0:54:58.760 --> 0:55:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Because but here's the and so here's the thing and

0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:04.200
<v Speaker 2>the reason, and I'm getting a little fired up about

0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:11.040
<v Speaker 2>this is because if I don't get why you're it

0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:14.440
<v Speaker 2>with all the effort that you're exerting to do something

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:18.000
<v Speaker 2>outside of yourself, I don't understand why you would do

0:55:18.239 --> 0:55:25.800
<v Speaker 2>something that ends with you being in more debt. I I,

0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:30.640
<v Speaker 2>it's twenty twenty five, my friend. It's twenty twenty five,

0:55:30.880 --> 0:55:34.879
<v Speaker 2>my friend, it's twenty twenty five, my friend. You don't

0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:40.120
<v Speaker 2>need a marketing degree to show that your business is credible, you.

0:55:40.160 --> 0:55:42.520
<v Speaker 6>Know, right I.

0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:45.760
<v Speaker 2>And also you've already you've already started a business.

0:55:47.280 --> 0:55:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I did previously.

0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't know, man, I just feel like that

0:55:53.160 --> 0:55:56.759
<v Speaker 6>piece of paper, which maybe I just eat up all

0:55:56.800 --> 0:56:00.200
<v Speaker 6>the propaganda that we've gotten since we were young, that

0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:02.960
<v Speaker 6>piece of paper will maybe just help me, you know

0:56:03.000 --> 0:56:06.000
<v Speaker 6>what I mean? Because right now, it's just what's going

0:56:06.080 --> 0:56:09.720
<v Speaker 6>on isn't working. And you know, I've applied for marketing

0:56:09.880 --> 0:56:17.239
<v Speaker 6>jobs and I've had like multiple interviews, and uh, it

0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:18.359
<v Speaker 6>just never pans out.

0:56:18.480 --> 0:56:23.320
<v Speaker 2>And we're we're at a weird place. I think I'm

0:56:23.440 --> 0:56:25.800
<v Speaker 2>totally talking completely out of my ass with nothing to

0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:30.000
<v Speaker 2>cite anything at all, because you know whatever, I'm a

0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:35.279
<v Speaker 2>dumb podcaster. But uh, it's it's it's well, it just

0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:37.440
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, is that it seems as though

0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:41.240
<v Speaker 2>we're getting not a weird inflection point where like economically,

0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:49.360
<v Speaker 2>people without degrees and people with degrees are having similar struggles.

0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:53.000
<v Speaker 6>Right, And I see that and it kind of it

0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:56.400
<v Speaker 6>kind of frightens me, like of course with everything AI,

0:56:56.640 --> 0:56:58.960
<v Speaker 6>It's like, why would someone hire me for marketing when

0:56:59.000 --> 0:57:01.719
<v Speaker 6>they can just fucking type into chat GBT and we'll

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:02.759
<v Speaker 6>do the same fucking thing.

0:57:03.040 --> 0:57:08.839
<v Speaker 2>Well sure, but I here's here's what I would say.

0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:11.680
<v Speaker 2>My your dream is you want to you want to

0:57:11.719 --> 0:57:13.880
<v Speaker 2>be a white collar guy. You want to be on

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:16.720
<v Speaker 2>the computer at home with your kids. You want to

0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:19.440
<v Speaker 2>be doing that. I would love that. Son, how many

0:57:19.480 --> 0:57:21.760
<v Speaker 2>hours a week them? How many hours a week are

0:57:21.800 --> 0:57:22.360
<v Speaker 2>you in school?

0:57:24.440 --> 0:57:26.600
<v Speaker 6>So it's all online, so I do it full time,

0:57:26.840 --> 0:57:30.120
<v Speaker 6>so you know, like so like right now it is

0:57:30.200 --> 0:57:32.840
<v Speaker 6>like a perfect example. So I got home, my wife

0:57:32.880 --> 0:57:35.240
<v Speaker 6>went to work, my kids go to bed because they're young,

0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:40.080
<v Speaker 6>around like seven thirty, and then after that I will

0:57:40.160 --> 0:57:43.240
<v Speaker 6>kind of sit at my desk for two three hours

0:57:43.320 --> 0:57:47.920
<v Speaker 6>and do it to do school and then or like

0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:50.080
<v Speaker 6>right now, like I said, I'm trying to start the business,

0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:51.720
<v Speaker 6>so like I can build a website.

0:57:51.840 --> 0:57:54.840
<v Speaker 2>So what are you going to do a little? What

0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:57.000
<v Speaker 2>do you do in school? Like what do you actually do?

0:57:58.960 --> 0:58:02.240
<v Speaker 6>Just learn about mark marketing? Like the last one was

0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:05.320
<v Speaker 6>about professional communication. I had to write like two papers

0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:07.800
<v Speaker 6>and do a presentation on PowerPoint and this one is

0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:13.320
<v Speaker 6>all about power Uh PowerPoint Excel. No, not PowerPoint. What

0:58:13.440 --> 0:58:17.720
<v Speaker 6>the hell am I saying? Microsoft Excel. Yeah, so like

0:58:18.040 --> 0:58:21.200
<v Speaker 6>this one is kind of more like, uh, I guess

0:58:22.280 --> 0:58:25.800
<v Speaker 6>like this term is more techie. It's all like stuff

0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:27.880
<v Speaker 6>on the computer. But like last time it was like

0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:31.880
<v Speaker 6>fund Like last term was like fundamental of marketings and

0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:34.520
<v Speaker 6>marketing management and all this bullshit.

0:58:34.680 --> 0:58:36.720
<v Speaker 2>So how much how much money do you are? You

0:58:36.880 --> 0:58:37.680
<v Speaker 2>do you spend to do that?

0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:42.080
<v Speaker 6>So it's a little bit cheaper than like I would

0:58:42.320 --> 0:58:46.560
<v Speaker 6>think you would assume. So per term, there's two terms,

0:58:46.600 --> 0:58:48.360
<v Speaker 6>so like it's just like six months. I don't know

0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:51.000
<v Speaker 6>what a regular college is. I've never been to a

0:58:51.080 --> 0:58:57.600
<v Speaker 6>regular college anyways. So every year, let's see, so I

0:58:57.680 --> 0:59:01.520
<v Speaker 6>think every six months, it's about thirty seven fifty So

0:59:01.720 --> 0:59:05.720
<v Speaker 6>three thousand, seven hundred and fifty dollars every six months, Okay,

0:59:06.120 --> 0:59:09.640
<v Speaker 6>And yeah, it's not horrible and it's go it's go

0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:12.640
<v Speaker 6>at your own pace. So like if I really wanted

0:59:12.680 --> 0:59:16.320
<v Speaker 6>to and I didn't have like all these outside variables,

0:59:18.280 --> 0:59:20.920
<v Speaker 6>Like I know this guy who went to the same college,

0:59:20.960 --> 0:59:24.440
<v Speaker 6>he wasn't doing the same degree, but he got it done.

0:59:24.480 --> 0:59:27.840
<v Speaker 6>In six months, So like he got his whole degree

0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:28.560
<v Speaker 6>in six months.

0:59:28.720 --> 0:59:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, so you go, how and how's he doing?

0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Does he have a job? Is did his degree help him?

0:59:34.240 --> 0:59:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Because I'm actually okay, but it's actually now that you

0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:39.520
<v Speaker 2>say that, it was only like, you know, three seventy

0:59:39.880 --> 0:59:43.080
<v Speaker 2>something for six months. That's not that's not horrible.

0:59:43.160 --> 0:59:43.400
<v Speaker 5>What what?

0:59:43.680 --> 0:59:43.800
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

0:59:44.440 --> 0:59:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, your boy, I mean your boy. He got the degree,

0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:48.160
<v Speaker 2>Like what was he doing?

0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:54.200
<v Speaker 6>Now? Yeah, he's doing he has a corporate corporate life.

0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:57.600
<v Speaker 6>Now he's I think last time I talked to him

0:59:57.880 --> 0:59:58.320
<v Speaker 6>because I.

0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Was gonna say, you gotta ask him for job, dude.

1:00:01.920 --> 1:00:03.680
<v Speaker 6>Well see, and that's the thing. It's like, you know,

1:00:03.800 --> 1:00:07.400
<v Speaker 6>I ask around and like that's kind of what happened.

1:00:07.520 --> 1:00:10.040
<v Speaker 6>Like I asked him, and he got me in touch

1:00:10.080 --> 1:00:13.280
<v Speaker 6>with the CEO, and then the CEO got me in

1:00:13.360 --> 1:00:16.520
<v Speaker 6>touch of like with the marketing director, and then I

1:00:16.560 --> 1:00:19.880
<v Speaker 6>went and had an interview and then just nothing. It's

1:00:19.960 --> 1:00:23.360
<v Speaker 6>just like, oh man, like all that effort, you know,

1:00:23.520 --> 1:00:28.840
<v Speaker 6>redoing my resume, Yeah, just absolutely just for nothing.

1:00:29.080 --> 1:00:32.480
<v Speaker 5>And it's so like disheartening, Like okay, and you're at

1:00:32.520 --> 1:00:35.960
<v Speaker 5>the same time as you're doing school, you're also working

1:00:36.040 --> 1:00:38.800
<v Speaker 5>on a business like you're you're also working on a business,

1:00:38.920 --> 1:00:39.560
<v Speaker 5>like for marketing.

1:00:40.760 --> 1:00:43.959
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so I haven't started anything yet. It's been something

1:00:44.040 --> 1:00:46.400
<v Speaker 6>that's been in the works. Like I said, I'm building

1:00:46.440 --> 1:00:48.800
<v Speaker 6>my own website, so I'm not hiring someone to do that.

1:00:50.920 --> 1:00:54.160
<v Speaker 6>And then you know, I'm coming up with a business plan,

1:00:54.280 --> 1:00:57.360
<v Speaker 6>which I have, and then I have like pricing models

1:00:57.400 --> 1:01:01.160
<v Speaker 6>and pressing structures for different things, cause I already specialize

1:01:01.200 --> 1:01:05.680
<v Speaker 6>in digital ads. So like when I ran my queening company,

1:01:05.840 --> 1:01:08.200
<v Speaker 6>I got all of my business through Google, So I

1:01:08.280 --> 1:01:11.200
<v Speaker 6>did like my own Google Ads, and I optimized, like

1:01:11.560 --> 1:01:13.800
<v Speaker 6>you know, my website that I made it once again,

1:01:14.680 --> 1:01:17.120
<v Speaker 6>you know, like on page off page SEO, like all

1:01:17.200 --> 1:01:20.520
<v Speaker 6>this structured data, the metadata, all that bullshit, like I'm

1:01:20.640 --> 1:01:25.280
<v Speaker 6>really proficient in. So I'm doing that right now. And

1:01:25.440 --> 1:01:27.720
<v Speaker 6>then so I'm guessing in one to two months, I'm

1:01:27.760 --> 1:01:30.040
<v Speaker 6>going to try to get the business license and then utah,

1:01:30.080 --> 1:01:35.040
<v Speaker 6>it's like sixty five bucks and then I'm just gonna man,

1:01:35.080 --> 1:01:37.080
<v Speaker 6>I'm just gonna fucking wing it, you know, because I

1:01:37.160 --> 1:01:39.120
<v Speaker 6>feel like in ten years, if I don't do it

1:01:39.240 --> 1:01:42.200
<v Speaker 6>right now, I'm gonna regret, Like what if what if?

1:01:42.560 --> 1:01:45.560
<v Speaker 6>Like what if I could have built something for my family.

1:01:45.920 --> 1:01:47.280
<v Speaker 2>That's what I was gonna ask, is do you are?

1:01:47.400 --> 1:01:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Is your is your dream life? Like you build something

1:01:49.880 --> 1:01:52.840
<v Speaker 2>for your family or your dream life is you clock

1:01:52.960 --> 1:01:55.120
<v Speaker 2>in and then at five pm you put turn the

1:01:55.160 --> 1:01:56.160
<v Speaker 2>fucking computer off.

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<v Speaker 6>No, Like, I know, working for myself is probably gonna

1:01:59.720 --> 1:02:03.800
<v Speaker 6>be way harder in a sense, not physically is going

1:02:03.880 --> 1:02:06.840
<v Speaker 6>to be way harder than what I'm doing now, but

1:02:07.560 --> 1:02:09.600
<v Speaker 6>because like, like when I worked for myself, I worked

1:02:09.600 --> 1:02:12.120
<v Speaker 6>seven days a week for like a year until like

1:02:12.280 --> 1:02:14.680
<v Speaker 6>I got those two employees and then I kind of

1:02:14.680 --> 1:02:17.520
<v Speaker 6>could take some time off. It wasn't a lot, but

1:02:17.640 --> 1:02:19.320
<v Speaker 6>that was the most money I've ever made. So like,

1:02:20.120 --> 1:02:22.520
<v Speaker 6>you know, my my goal in life isn't to be

1:02:22.600 --> 1:02:26.080
<v Speaker 6>a billionaire or a hundred millionaire. Like my definition of

1:02:26.280 --> 1:02:30.560
<v Speaker 6>rich is someone who can pay their bills and not

1:02:30.720 --> 1:02:34.240
<v Speaker 6>worry about like their financial area, Like oh yeah I

1:02:34.280 --> 1:02:36.120
<v Speaker 6>could pay rent, I could pay this, I could pay this,

1:02:36.280 --> 1:02:39.280
<v Speaker 6>Like all my bills are paid, and maybe let's plan

1:02:39.400 --> 1:02:42.600
<v Speaker 6>a vacation. You know, in my definition, that's rich. And

1:02:42.800 --> 1:02:46.360
<v Speaker 6>right now, okay, like like we're just not there and.

1:02:46.720 --> 1:02:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, but we're getting were getting ahead of ourselves

1:02:49.800 --> 1:02:52.120
<v Speaker 2>here is like we're just trying to figure out. I

1:02:52.160 --> 1:02:54.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I'm just thinking about like those those hours

1:02:54.400 --> 1:02:56.960
<v Speaker 2>that you're extending beyond yourself.

1:02:58.080 --> 1:02:59.280
<v Speaker 6>Dude, it's exhausting.

1:02:59.480 --> 1:03:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, well I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure it's exhausting.

1:03:02.160 --> 1:03:07.680
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I'm thinking about what the best thing

1:03:07.800 --> 1:03:10.440
<v Speaker 2>for you to be doing with that time is. And

1:03:10.560 --> 1:03:20.080
<v Speaker 2>it's probably Oh, I don't know, man, I I'm I

1:03:20.200 --> 1:03:23.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know, is is I and I don't I don't

1:03:23.040 --> 1:03:27.320
<v Speaker 2>know the industry, but I have to gander that like that,

1:03:28.000 --> 1:03:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how worth while it is for you

1:03:30.480 --> 1:03:32.760
<v Speaker 2>to be, like, like, how worthwhile is it for you

1:03:32.880 --> 1:03:37.640
<v Speaker 2>to be like writing fucking papers? You know? Like no,

1:03:38.120 --> 1:03:40.720
<v Speaker 2>I get it, Like like because you because you're because

1:03:40.720 --> 1:03:42.640
<v Speaker 2>you're a tinker, You're you're a tinkerer.

1:03:43.360 --> 1:03:43.560
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1:03:44.280 --> 1:03:47.320
<v Speaker 2>There there, you're you're. I mean that, that's I think

1:03:47.360 --> 1:03:50.240
<v Speaker 2>that's what everyone wants they want to I mean not everyone,

1:03:50.320 --> 1:03:54.320
<v Speaker 2>but you know, tinkerers. I remember I had a large

1:03:54.400 --> 1:03:56.240
<v Speaker 2>period of time in my life where I was a

1:03:56.280 --> 1:03:59.280
<v Speaker 2>tinkerer and I was like, how the fuck do I

1:03:59.400 --> 1:04:02.040
<v Speaker 2>make money that I don't have a real job, And

1:04:02.160 --> 1:04:06.240
<v Speaker 2>I was fucking think about all kinds of ship like

1:04:06.600 --> 1:04:11.840
<v Speaker 2>whatever Facebook, ad marketing or drop shipping or all that

1:04:12.000 --> 1:04:17.280
<v Speaker 2>kind of a ship. And I don't know. I I think, well,

1:04:17.320 --> 1:04:20.920
<v Speaker 2>I can't, I can't. I'll say that. I'll say this,

1:04:21.200 --> 1:04:23.480
<v Speaker 2>and you you ultimately get to decide what is right

1:04:23.720 --> 1:04:27.360
<v Speaker 2>for you. But I would sit with yourself for a

1:04:27.480 --> 1:04:31.240
<v Speaker 2>little bit and go, Okay, of all the options of

1:04:31.320 --> 1:04:33.560
<v Speaker 2>all the things that I could maybe this is redundant,

1:04:33.600 --> 1:04:35.360
<v Speaker 2>but whatever, of all the options of all the things

1:04:35.400 --> 1:04:38.960
<v Speaker 2>that I could do, which one by the end of

1:04:39.080 --> 1:04:43.760
<v Speaker 2>me doing the work, will I have really built something?

1:04:44.240 --> 1:04:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Is it you working on the business for longer or

1:04:47.520 --> 1:04:50.600
<v Speaker 2>is it you writing the essays. I kind of think

1:04:50.680 --> 1:04:54.640
<v Speaker 2>it's you working on the business more than it is

1:04:54.720 --> 1:04:59.440
<v Speaker 2>you are writing the essays, right, I don't know because

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't spoke. I I mean, go and talk to

1:05:03.960 --> 1:05:07.280
<v Speaker 2>go find five people who graduated from your program and

1:05:07.360 --> 1:05:09.560
<v Speaker 2>say hey, did you get a job because of this thing?

1:05:09.600 --> 1:05:11.280
<v Speaker 2>And if they're all like, yes, you should do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know what that guy in the lizard

1:05:13.760 --> 1:05:15.840
<v Speaker 2>suit on the podcast is talking about. But you should

1:05:15.880 --> 1:05:21.439
<v Speaker 2>do it, then great, go with them. But I don't.

1:05:21.680 --> 1:05:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I think you should ask yourself some more questions before

1:05:24.040 --> 1:05:27.560
<v Speaker 2>you blindly say oh, well, this is how it's always worked.

1:05:27.640 --> 1:05:29.080
<v Speaker 2>You get a degree and then you get a job,

1:05:29.160 --> 1:05:34.480
<v Speaker 2>because we all fucking know that that's not that's not

1:05:34.560 --> 1:05:36.640
<v Speaker 2>the world we live in in twenty twenty five. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. But I don't think that. I don't think

1:05:40.200 --> 1:05:46.080
<v Speaker 2>you're fucked, and I don't I don't think you're fucked,

1:05:46.120 --> 1:05:50.760
<v Speaker 2>and b I think that there does exist opportunity for

1:05:50.960 --> 1:05:54.560
<v Speaker 2>you somehow, some way to make money in an air

1:05:54.640 --> 1:06:02.440
<v Speaker 2>conditioned room, right, and yeah, just and I again, I

1:06:02.480 --> 1:06:05.680
<v Speaker 2>really commend you because what you're doing is so extremely hard.

1:06:08.320 --> 1:06:10.800
<v Speaker 2>I think as long as you don't give up, maybe

1:06:10.840 --> 1:06:12.760
<v Speaker 2>give up for a little bit. If you find yourself

1:06:12.840 --> 1:06:14.920
<v Speaker 2>being like I can't tip into deserves this week, I

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<v Speaker 2>can only do maintenance this week, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 6>I find myself doing that more often than not.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and that's okay, because you got your are

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<v Speaker 2>you're you can't over exert yourself or else you'll fucking die.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm just so burnt out.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure, And I'm sure. Yeah, I mean, listen, you

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<v Speaker 2>could also take a couple of weeks and be like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna just fucking go at maintenance mode. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>bare minimum I need to do to keep my children

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<v Speaker 2>and me and my wife alive.

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<v Speaker 6>And do that.

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<v Speaker 2>If you need a break, if you need a break,

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<v Speaker 2>and you do that for a couple of weeks, and

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<v Speaker 2>then it'll be like, Okay, let's reassess, and now what

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<v Speaker 2>do we do? But ask I don't. I wouldn't. Your

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<v Speaker 2>time is super valuable you specifically because you have all

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff on your plate. So just just really poking

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<v Speaker 2>prod and pick at the thing you're doing with your

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<v Speaker 2>with your energy reserves and make sure that it's got

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<v Speaker 2>some legs to it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, That's that's what I'm trying to do. That's like

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<v Speaker 6>literally just a couple of days ago, like I was

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<v Speaker 6>just like, Okay, I'm really going to do this business

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<v Speaker 6>because like I, like I said, I've been thinking about

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<v Speaker 6>it for a while, but lately I have just got

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<v Speaker 6>to the point where I'm so goddamn sick of doing

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<v Speaker 6>my job, and like it's like every day I'm just miserable.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, from like the minute I get there, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>just sweating until the minute I get off and it

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<v Speaker 6>you know, like today was like ninety eight degrees and

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just like just pouring sweaty, and I do agree

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<v Speaker 6>with you, like I think the business would do. Focusing

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<v Speaker 6>on like building the business would probably be worthwhile, a

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<v Speaker 6>little more worthwhile than just doing school. But at the

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<v Speaker 6>same time, I've been in it for a year and

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<v Speaker 6>another another thing that's been on my mind is if.

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<v Speaker 2>I stop the sun cost fallacy.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, just the thing if I if I drop out

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<v Speaker 6>right now, hold on, hold on, You're fine, hold on, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about c J. I'm gonna I'm gonna let this

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<v Speaker 2>be the last thing you say so that you can

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<v Speaker 2>go hang out with your kid because I feel bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel bad that you're neglecting your children to t

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<v Speaker 2>have this phone call with.

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<v Speaker 6>No, You're fine, they're just chilling. We're watching Monsters, inc.

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 6>What I was gonna say is another thing that's been

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<v Speaker 6>on my mind is because I have been thinking about

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<v Speaker 6>stopping doing school. But if I drop out, then I

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<v Speaker 6>have to start paying the student debt, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, CJ. CJ, I don't know if you heard what

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<v Speaker 2>you just said, But being like being like if I

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, but yeah, I mean I don't know, CJ. Like, Hm,

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<v Speaker 2>I could go deeper into debt. But if I quit,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to pay the Like what do you like

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't make any sense, man.

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<v Speaker 6>No, No, it's just like right now, I'm looking out

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<v Speaker 6>for us right now, because like I understand what you're

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<v Speaker 6>saying one million percent, but like right now we're scraping by,

1:09:29.160 --> 1:09:31.360
<v Speaker 6>Like you know, we could pay everything and we could

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<v Speaker 6>get groceries, but we're left with so little at the

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<v Speaker 6>very end of the month that if we had a

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<v Speaker 6>bill on top of that, it's just like, could we

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<v Speaker 6>really do it? You know what I mean? Like, like,

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<v Speaker 6>I get what you're saying. If I say that for another.

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<v Speaker 2>Year, sure, but yeah, but I'm but like, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm like, if I'm living in the like in

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<v Speaker 2>the reality that you're putting forth for me right now,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to you have to do that no matter what.

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<v Speaker 2>And so and also if you keep going and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't take the time to reassess, that bill gets bigger.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not I can't. I'm not gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 2>what to do, but I just think that you should,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, assess it and understand that, like a degree

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<v Speaker 2>is not automatically gonna get you out of the rut.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe it will, I don't know. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>the program. I don't know these people, but you should

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<v Speaker 2>have you at minimum, at minimum, at minimum, you should

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<v Speaker 2>find like five other people who graduated from this program

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<v Speaker 2>or faculty or whatever, and like really do some deep

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<v Speaker 2>diving and and not like just take it at face value.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what That's what I would do before you

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<v Speaker 2>drop out, is go find people who graduated and if

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<v Speaker 2>they I don't know if you've done this already, but

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<v Speaker 2>I would go talk to some people who were in

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<v Speaker 2>your shoes and were in the degree, and if they

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<v Speaker 2>and how they're because if you talk to those people

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, yeah, I got that degree and now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in more debt and I'm fucked because the job

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<v Speaker 2>market's fucked, then you can cut your losses and and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, you have to pay the debt, but

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<v Speaker 2>you have to pay the debt no matter what, because

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<v Speaker 2>yet you enrolled. So if if now's the time to

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<v Speaker 2>be like, all right, let's let's find out if now's

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<v Speaker 2>the good time to cut our losses, and if it is,

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<v Speaker 2>then great, and then you can and then you can

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<v Speaker 2>be like, okay, great, we got out early, and yeah

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<v Speaker 2>this is gonna suck for like a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 2>now I can spend my extra reserve time working on

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<v Speaker 2>this thing that is really gonna, you know, hopefully eventually

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<v Speaker 2>grow to be my ticket to you know, not having

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<v Speaker 2>to be fucking underwater. For now, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna, I'm gonna let you go. CJ. Is there

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<v Speaker 2>is there anything else you want to say to the

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<v Speaker 2>people of the computer before.

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<v Speaker 6>We go, you know, just uh be nice and live

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<v Speaker 6>your life to the fullest and be grateful for what

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<v Speaker 6>you have. And also to you, Lyle. I liked that

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<v Speaker 6>video that you put out about you going to Tijuana. Man,

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<v Speaker 6>I thought I thought that was a cool video. I

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<v Speaker 6>watched it on YouTube and me and my wife actually

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<v Speaker 6>watched it, and she she every time we watch you

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<v Speaker 6>and like, you're out of your suit, She's like, he

1:12:17.320 --> 1:12:21.040
<v Speaker 6>looks so weird not being green. I just I think

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<v Speaker 6>it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>But get used to be a lot more. I thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that that. It's actually that's really nice here

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<v Speaker 2>hearing from another human being that I've been working like

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<v Speaker 2>crazy NonStop on making that video, so I appreciate hearing

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<v Speaker 2>another real human being that enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and I look forward to what you're gonna put out.

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<v Speaker 6>Like I've been listening to you for a long time,

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<v Speaker 6>and I watch your YouTube, Like I'll listen to your

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<v Speaker 6>in real your like real life where you're in like

1:12:46.479 --> 1:12:48.800
<v Speaker 6>the park or whatever, and then I'll also watch the

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<v Speaker 6>video because I'm curious to see what these people look

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<v Speaker 6>like like, you know. So yeah, man, I just appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 6>I listened to you at work all the time, and like,

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<v Speaker 6>even when I'm having this shitty day, I know it's

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<v Speaker 6>like I know, I just put I just put you

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<v Speaker 6>in my ear and I'm just like I just like

1:13:08.720 --> 1:13:11.040
<v Speaker 6>kind of zone out and I don't know you You're

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<v Speaker 6>doing God's work.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you, and I commend you for working

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<v Speaker 2>really hard to you know, uh, maintain the sanctity of

1:13:20.960 --> 1:13:23.040
<v Speaker 2>your children's life and your life and I and I

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that you figure it out and I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you make you know, whatever decisions right for you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I appreciate it. Maybe one of these days, when I,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, do get a business and I have some money, maybe, uh,

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<v Speaker 6>I'll go to New York and catch you. And what

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<v Speaker 6>is it called Washington Square Park?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that where you go yeah, yeah, yeah, come hang.

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<v Speaker 2>If that does happen, I'll be like I would like that.

1:13:44.320 --> 1:13:46.479
<v Speaker 2>I'll be like that's crazy. If that does happen, I

1:13:46.520 --> 1:13:48.040
<v Speaker 2>will be like, damn, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, me too, honestly. But all right, man, we'll have

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<v Speaker 6>a good day and uh yeah, as you say, I'll

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<v Speaker 6>see you around the universe.

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<v Speaker 2>Take care, CJ.

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<v Speaker 6>You too.

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<v Speaker 2>I do say that a lot. I say i'll see

1:14:01.680 --> 1:14:02.800
<v Speaker 2>you around the you. I say that in my real

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. That's not even like a show caller sign off.

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<v Speaker 2>I just say that now. Anytime I say that, after

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<v Speaker 2>like a date, i'd like, see you around the universe.

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<v Speaker 6>They're like what.

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<v Speaker 2>I say, see you around the universe? And I say,

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<v Speaker 2>what's up, gangsters? That's what I that's how I enter.

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<v Speaker 2>I enter with what's up gangsters? I exit with see

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<v Speaker 2>you around the universe. I don't I now, I just

1:14:29.520 --> 1:14:33.720
<v Speaker 2>I just do it to I don't know. I think

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<v Speaker 2>if you're if I think if you intentionally say something weird,

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<v Speaker 2>it makes it makes things feel less awkward, right, because

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<v Speaker 2>if I if I intentionally say something that sounds normal,

1:14:44.120 --> 1:14:47.040
<v Speaker 2>I just know it'll come out weird. So I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>start with something weird. I like that guy, Ceja. He's

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<v Speaker 2>really exerting himself. It's hard. Don't have a fourth kid,

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<v Speaker 2>if you That's my main advice to you, CJ, is

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<v Speaker 2>to not have a fourth kid if you can. If

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<v Speaker 2>you can hear me still, thanks for calling, CJ. Hi. Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>what's your name?

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<v Speaker 4>Hi?

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<v Speaker 3>Jenna?

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<v Speaker 2>Jenna?

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<v Speaker 6>What's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Jenna? How's life?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe I'm talking to you right now? Life

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<v Speaker 3>is good? How's life for you?

1:15:24.479 --> 1:15:28.360
<v Speaker 2>In this very moment? Life is good? In this very moment,

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<v Speaker 2>life is good. I'm enjoying. I'm enjoying doing this today.

1:15:33.400 --> 1:15:37.720
<v Speaker 2>I feel I feel in a nice flow state. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>life in generals is kind of crazy, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if it's ever supposed to not be. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if the time time never stands still and you

1:15:54.400 --> 1:15:56.880
<v Speaker 2>can probably waste a lot of it waiting for it too.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, I totally I totally agree.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up, Jenna? Would you want to talk about today?

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<v Speaker 2>If anything? We can also just talk about nothing. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been thinking about if I ever got on the

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<v Speaker 3>phone with you, I would tell you about the time

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<v Speaker 3>that I saw you at Electric Forest. So I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>actually get the chance to see your set. Because of

1:16:28.560 --> 1:16:31.920
<v Speaker 3>the group of people I was with, we were just

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<v Speaker 3>on a whole other journey in that moment. But I

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<v Speaker 3>had made you a bracelet, like before I even left

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<v Speaker 3>Pennsylvania to go to Michigan for Electric Forest. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>if I see Lyle, I want to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>give him this bracelet. And I was walking through the

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<v Speaker 3>forest and I could see you didn't have your gecko

1:16:55.640 --> 1:16:58.880
<v Speaker 3>costume on, but I could see the paint on your

1:16:59.439 --> 1:17:02.640
<v Speaker 3>hands and legs. And I was with my friends and

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<v Speaker 3>I could see that you had like an artist's bracelet

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<v Speaker 3>on too, and I was like behind you, and I

1:17:08.360 --> 1:17:11.320
<v Speaker 3>was like, guys, I think that's a therapy gecko. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I have to make a run for it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I like bolted over to you and I stopped

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<v Speaker 3>you and I said I barely even said hello. I

1:17:19.920 --> 1:17:23.439
<v Speaker 3>said hi, can I give you something? And you were

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<v Speaker 3>so kind and you said, of course, like what's your name?

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<v Speaker 3>And I told you my name, and I did the

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<v Speaker 3>little like peace, love, unity and rect like a handshake. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>we plurred, and I gave you the bracelet and I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's just a therapy gecko on it. But I

1:17:41.280 --> 1:17:45.280
<v Speaker 3>was just like on a off chance that is so

1:17:46.000 --> 1:17:49.280
<v Speaker 3>like heartfelt and it was like such a big moment

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<v Speaker 3>for me. And then I went back to over to

1:17:50.840 --> 1:17:52.600
<v Speaker 3>my friends and she got a video of it, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, thank you so much, like it was

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<v Speaker 3>it like made my day so and it made my

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<v Speaker 3>whole weekend. I was like talking about it forever.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's so nice. That's so nice.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I know I probably have it.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love if you still have it, that would

1:18:08.680 --> 1:18:14.040
<v Speaker 3>be amazing. I am also wondering how your experience was there,

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<v Speaker 3>Like how did you How did you like the forest?

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of my favorite places, like to be honestly ever,

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<v Speaker 3>like I love going there every year, and I was wondering,

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<v Speaker 3>like how you liked it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I have a I have a thing

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<v Speaker 2>and I've always had this my entire life where I

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I always have to I always have

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<v Speaker 2>to be like working in some way, shape or form,

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<v Speaker 2>and I I like, I need my This is a

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<v Speaker 2>good thing. It's not a bad thing. But and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like if I'm going to go on like a big

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<v Speaker 2>trip or do a crazy thing or go to a

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<v Speaker 2>festival or whatever, like uh, and if I'm if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing that and I'm working. That's the best. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>best I ever feel. And so was so like when

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<v Speaker 2>I did when I did my little festival run where

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing like bon Aru and Coachella and Electric

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<v Speaker 2>Forest and I got to do the shows and also

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<v Speaker 2>like hang out afterwards. It was fucking awesome. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I would go back just to just a vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not like I mean maybe, I mean, certainly, if

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<v Speaker 2>I got invited back to like ever do something, that

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<v Speaker 2>would be cool. But even if I only got to

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<v Speaker 2>do it, that would be amazing. But it was great.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I love the music festivals. I love you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I love the vibes there. Maybe I would go to

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<v Speaker 2>another music festival just to vibe if I had, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I had like a reason to go or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I mean, I love I love ecstasy.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't done it in like three fucking years. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Me too. That's one of my favorite parts is to

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of be able to be out in the

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<v Speaker 3>woods exploring and not worrying about like any of my problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know if I'll ever

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<v Speaker 2>go back to Electric Forest, but I mean, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>had a fucking great time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's amazing. And I know you've been doing a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of traveling lately, so it's been awesome to see

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<v Speaker 3>all of your like recent endeavors. You're you've been exploring

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the different things, and it's really cool

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<v Speaker 3>to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you. Yeah, I haven't been doing I've

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<v Speaker 2>been doing as much this year as as the past.

1:20:32.520 --> 1:20:34.360
<v Speaker 2>But I'm I'm I'm hankering for it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm gonna go next, but actually I do know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go to the Gathering of the Juggalos. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the Gathering of the Juggalos. That'll be my next festival.

1:20:43.120 --> 1:20:46.800
<v Speaker 3>That is badass. You are very excited, such a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very excited for the Gathering of the Juggalos. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what I'm gonna make yet. I don't I'm

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<v Speaker 2>either gonna make I was thinking about making something more

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<v Speaker 2>along the lines of that Tijuana video where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's kind of like trying to edit for

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<v Speaker 2>story or just like doing on the Street podcast or

1:21:03.560 --> 1:21:05.760
<v Speaker 2>both or one or I don't. I don't know yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna make something there. But that was fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've always wanted to go.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited to see it.

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<v Speaker 6>What is your name again, Jenna?

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<v Speaker 2>Jenna? Well, shit, Jenna, I don't want this to all

1:21:20.880 --> 1:21:23.840
<v Speaker 2>be about me. What's going on with you?

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<v Speaker 3>Another thing I've always wanted to tell you about is

1:21:29.360 --> 1:21:33.000
<v Speaker 3>I play roller Derby. It's a pretty cool like hobby

1:21:33.160 --> 1:21:35.799
<v Speaker 3>to have as like someone in their mid twenties.

1:21:38.640 --> 1:21:41.040
<v Speaker 2>You say, mid twenties is if you're like a grandmother.

1:21:42.240 --> 1:21:45.519
<v Speaker 3>Well, I guess in late twenties. Now. I'm twenty eight now,

1:21:45.760 --> 1:21:49.200
<v Speaker 3>so I just turned on the eight this summer. So yeah,

1:21:49.479 --> 1:21:52.519
<v Speaker 3>I don't feel like a grandma, but sometimes after a

1:21:52.640 --> 1:21:54.160
<v Speaker 3>weekend of roller Derby, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you feel about being twenty eight? I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why. I'm like, I felt it's very young my

1:22:01.120 --> 1:22:04.080
<v Speaker 2>entire life. But this year I've just started to be like, oh, yeah,

1:22:04.160 --> 1:22:06.479
<v Speaker 2>none of this is forever. It's I don't want this

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<v Speaker 2>whole episode. I feel like I've been able to avoid

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<v Speaker 2>getting into nihilism. So but when I else talk.

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<v Speaker 3>About it, yeah, let's talk about it. It's it's very

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<v Speaker 3>daunting to be twenty eight. I'm like, you know, supposedly

1:22:20.720 --> 1:22:23.479
<v Speaker 3>a full blown adult, you know, from like a societal

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<v Speaker 3>point of view, but I don't know, I still feel

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<v Speaker 3>like a kid most of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's cool though, because, like I mean, you go to

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<v Speaker 2>a place like Electric Forest, and I have to you,

1:22:33.080 --> 1:22:36.520
<v Speaker 2>you do encounter a lot of like, you know, motherfuckers

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<v Speaker 2>in their thirties hanging out and doing drugs.

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<v Speaker 3>It's awesome. It's like you see adult kids everywhere, like

1:22:44.320 --> 1:22:47.280
<v Speaker 3>having the best time. Everyone's face is lighting up at

1:22:47.479 --> 1:22:52.040
<v Speaker 3>everything they're seeing, and like all of the crazy characters

1:22:52.200 --> 1:22:55.200
<v Speaker 3>that like float around the forest just to entertain people.

1:22:55.439 --> 1:22:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Like the way that they organize that festival is very like,

1:22:59.600 --> 1:23:01.679
<v Speaker 3>come play in the forest, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I think my buddy sax Squatch just did just did

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<v Speaker 2>a set there in the Honeycomb where.

1:23:09.640 --> 1:23:13.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know the sack Squatch. That's pretty sick.

1:23:13.640 --> 1:23:15.120
<v Speaker 2>He's the man. He's the man.

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<v Speaker 3>You were at the Honeycomb too, right, I was at

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<v Speaker 3>the Honeycomb. Nice, it's iconic.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see, Jenna, you said your name was right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Good memory?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Roller Derby?

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<v Speaker 6>Tell me what do we do not have to.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about Roller Derby? What do we need to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about it?

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<v Speaker 1>What do we mean interesting?

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<v Speaker 2>What do we need to know about Roller derby.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's a super high contact sport, but at the

1:23:47.600 --> 1:23:51.519
<v Speaker 3>same time, it's like you're out there just hitting your friends,

1:23:51.720 --> 1:23:54.639
<v Speaker 3>and when the whistle blows and the gem is over,

1:23:55.160 --> 1:23:57.240
<v Speaker 3>you like pick your friend up and like give him

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<v Speaker 3>a high five. Like it's all in the like love

1:24:00.760 --> 1:24:05.440
<v Speaker 3>the game. Like it's not like super like scary competitive,

1:24:05.880 --> 1:24:08.880
<v Speaker 3>if that makes sense, Like you just kind of enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>hitting each other.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, when you say that it's a

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<v Speaker 2>high contact sport, is it not, You're like you're shoving

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<v Speaker 2>each other around, right.

1:24:20.000 --> 1:24:20.639
<v Speaker 3>Oh for sure.

1:24:20.800 --> 1:24:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So what what's the is what's the goal? Is

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<v Speaker 2>the goal of it to like beat the shit out

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<v Speaker 2>of each other?

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<v Speaker 3>Well not necessarily, so, like the goal is to each

1:24:31.680 --> 1:24:36.040
<v Speaker 3>player has a jammer quote unquote, and that's the player

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<v Speaker 3>that has the star on their helmet. So if you've

1:24:37.840 --> 1:24:40.720
<v Speaker 3>ever seen like pictures of roller derby or something, or

1:24:40.840 --> 1:24:42.880
<v Speaker 3>like a video of it, there's like a player that

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<v Speaker 3>has a star on their helmet, and their goal is

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<v Speaker 3>to like gain points by passing players on the other team.

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<v Speaker 6>So each player that.

1:24:52.400 --> 1:24:55.640
<v Speaker 3>They pass counts as a point, but those players are

1:24:55.680 --> 1:24:58.320
<v Speaker 3>like actively trying to stop you from passing them, So

1:24:58.400 --> 1:25:01.960
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like it's kind of like football on

1:25:02.160 --> 1:25:05.479
<v Speaker 3>skates without a ball or end zone, if that make sense.

1:25:05.600 --> 1:25:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Like like there's no race, Like sometimes people think you're

1:25:09.280 --> 1:25:11.960
<v Speaker 3>racing around the track. It's not necessarily a race. It's

1:25:12.040 --> 1:25:14.160
<v Speaker 3>like each time you go around the track is another

1:25:14.280 --> 1:25:18.360
<v Speaker 3>opportunity to get more points or to like stop the

1:25:18.479 --> 1:25:21.400
<v Speaker 3>other jammer from getting points, if that make sense.

1:25:22.560 --> 1:25:25.000
<v Speaker 2>It does make sense. That does make sense.

1:25:27.280 --> 1:25:30.320
<v Speaker 3>It's a lot of like camaraderie and like team bonding,

1:25:30.560 --> 1:25:32.639
<v Speaker 3>like we'll you know, have a beer after a game,

1:25:32.800 --> 1:25:35.200
<v Speaker 3>and like we have lots of parties and stuff. It's

1:25:35.280 --> 1:25:38.080
<v Speaker 3>just like a cool, fun way to like socialize when

1:25:38.280 --> 1:25:40.040
<v Speaker 3>like you don't have like college anymore.

1:25:40.560 --> 1:25:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that we talked to a guy about dodgeball on

1:25:43.320 --> 1:25:45.840
<v Speaker 2>the show a while ago, and.

1:25:45.920 --> 1:25:49.839
<v Speaker 3>He has any recreational I encourage. I always encourage.

1:25:50.960 --> 1:25:51.160
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

1:25:51.520 --> 1:25:54.240
<v Speaker 2>I think that's it's important to have something after like

1:25:54.320 --> 1:25:58.240
<v Speaker 2>high school and college that gets you in and around

1:25:58.320 --> 1:26:01.960
<v Speaker 2>other people in some way shape or for him, you know, absolutely.

1:26:02.600 --> 1:26:05.200
<v Speaker 3>And roller Derby is also fun because people have like

1:26:05.720 --> 1:26:07.960
<v Speaker 3>names like that are not their real name.

1:26:08.200 --> 1:26:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's your Derby name?

1:26:11.200 --> 1:26:13.639
<v Speaker 1>Rhythm and Bruise, that's.

1:26:15.120 --> 1:26:17.600
<v Speaker 3>It's like a pun. A lot of people have like

1:26:18.080 --> 1:26:21.880
<v Speaker 3>many words in their name. It's not abnormal. So rhythm

1:26:21.960 --> 1:26:24.560
<v Speaker 3>and bruise, Like I used to be a dancer. I

1:26:24.640 --> 1:26:26.160
<v Speaker 3>guess I kind of still am, but like I used

1:26:26.160 --> 1:26:28.599
<v Speaker 3>to be a competitive dancer, and I wanted to kind

1:26:28.600 --> 1:26:31.920
<v Speaker 3>of like tie that into my derby name somehow, but

1:26:32.040 --> 1:26:33.000
<v Speaker 3>also make it like a.

1:26:33.080 --> 1:26:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Pun rhythm and brew.

1:26:38.720 --> 1:26:42.320
<v Speaker 3>Bruise, like like if you got hit and you had

1:26:42.360 --> 1:26:44.360
<v Speaker 3>a mark on your arm, like rhythm and bruise.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, okay, that makes sense. Huh uh huh, Yes, Jenna,

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<v Speaker 2>you're still there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still here. I just didn't know if you were

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<v Speaker 3>going to say something else.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I feel like I do have that bracelet I

1:27:06.840 --> 1:27:09.160
<v Speaker 2>have like a I keep. I keep all the stuff.

1:27:10.600 --> 1:27:12.719
<v Speaker 3>I was wondering that that probably get a lot.

1:27:12.640 --> 1:27:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Of stuff I'm lucky, lucky enough to get. I'm in

1:27:17.000 --> 1:27:18.760
<v Speaker 2>a room with a bunch of stuff, but I keep

1:27:18.800 --> 1:27:20.599
<v Speaker 2>all keep a lot of it in like a big drawer.

1:27:20.720 --> 1:27:23.240
<v Speaker 2>Like the small stuff like little bracelets and chatchki's, I

1:27:23.320 --> 1:27:26.639
<v Speaker 2>keep it all in a like a big drawer of stuff.

1:27:27.520 --> 1:27:32.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm not good at decorating, like I had, I'm not

1:27:32.800 --> 1:27:35.400
<v Speaker 2>good at decorating. Thank you, I'm not good at decorating,

1:27:35.439 --> 1:27:38.080
<v Speaker 2>but I have I have some stuff up, but I'm

1:27:39.520 --> 1:27:43.400
<v Speaker 2>I try to keep keep my life simple, I guess.

1:27:44.880 --> 1:27:47.360
<v Speaker 2>But Jenna, thanks for go go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna say, I like the thought of

1:27:50.080 --> 1:27:52.400
<v Speaker 3>my little bracelet being in a drawer with like other

1:27:52.560 --> 1:27:55.840
<v Speaker 3>people's things that they like put a lot of thought

1:27:55.880 --> 1:27:58.000
<v Speaker 3>into for you like it. It's a nice thought.

1:27:58.439 --> 1:28:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Your bracelet is likely to drawer with a bag of

1:28:02.040 --> 1:28:04.679
<v Speaker 2>somebody's hair that they gave me back in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's even better.

1:28:07.439 --> 1:28:11.720
<v Speaker 2>That's even better, Jenna, is there anything else you want

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<v Speaker 2>to say to the people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 3>If you're thinking about joining a recreational group, hobby, activity, sport,

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<v Speaker 3>this is your sign.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful. Oh hey, wait, what's your favorite Derby movie? I

1:28:30.040 --> 1:28:31.000
<v Speaker 2>feel like there's a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm blanking because I'm really nervous on the phone with you.

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<v Speaker 2>There's one with I felt there's multiple.

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<v Speaker 3>I literally just watched one.

1:28:47.360 --> 1:28:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Maybe there's only one.

1:28:49.720 --> 1:28:53.080
<v Speaker 3>I think there might be only one, like super famous one,

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<v Speaker 3>and I literally just watched it and I can't remember

1:28:56.200 --> 1:28:59.759
<v Speaker 3>the name of it, so I'm sorry.

1:29:00.120 --> 1:29:02.880
<v Speaker 2>It's someone put it in the comments someone put it

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<v Speaker 2>in the common Yeah, someone please put.

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<v Speaker 3>It in the chat. I'm sorry and my brain is

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<v Speaker 3>like blank.

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<v Speaker 2>Take care of Jennet.

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<v Speaker 3>You two lyle, have a good rest of your stream.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye bye bye. Wait, I have it. I have a computer.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just look it up. Uh oh, whip it, whip it.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's more? Is that the one?

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<v Speaker 6>Is there?

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<v Speaker 2>Only one of them? Jimmy Fallon is in this? What

1:29:37.479 --> 1:29:40.840
<v Speaker 2>the hell is Jimmy Fallon doing in this? How old

1:29:40.960 --> 1:29:44.560
<v Speaker 2>is Jimmy Fallon? He's fifty. Now this is a stupid Wikipedia.

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<v Speaker 2>It just it just they just know how to They

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<v Speaker 2>just know. You know, what's funny is like Meta and

1:29:53.920 --> 1:30:00.439
<v Speaker 2>YouTube and Google whatever, like all these tech companies. They

1:30:00.520 --> 1:30:05.040
<v Speaker 2>spend all this time trying to figure out the science

1:30:05.120 --> 1:30:07.080
<v Speaker 2>of how to get us like addicted to their apps

1:30:07.120 --> 1:30:10.320
<v Speaker 2>and whatnot, and they're always changing and they then they're

1:30:10.439 --> 1:30:12.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, their public companies, and they put research into

1:30:12.960 --> 1:30:16.920
<v Speaker 2>it and whatnot. But Wikipedia does the same thing and

1:30:17.000 --> 1:30:22.920
<v Speaker 2>all they do is make stuff. Blue shout out to Wikipedia.

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<v Speaker 2>Rep Kid goes on the line taking your phone calls

1:30:27.200 --> 1:30:30.800
<v Speaker 2>every night. There bec goes to what his 's teaching you.

1:30:30.960 --> 1:30:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Cloud in the mean of your life. But he's not

1:30:33.439 --> 1:30:34.799
<v Speaker 2>really an expert