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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: What's your name?

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Speaker 1: Hey, I gave my name is Debts, Debts.

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Speaker 2: You gave your name as Debts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to the to the phone program.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, what's up, Debts? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Not too much. I'm packing up for a Lego convention

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: A what convention?

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Speaker 1: A lego convention?

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Speaker 2: What the fuck is? Where? Where? Where is this lego convention?

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Speaker 1: It's in Virginia. It's in Chantilly, Virginia. It's called the

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Speaker 1: Brick Fair Chantilly.

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Speaker 2: Is it at the dol Is it at the Dola

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Speaker 2: Dulles Convention Center?

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Speaker 1: It sure is that the one.

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Speaker 2: Fuck Yeah, I used to go there for a Smash

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Speaker 2: Brothers convention. Okay, what happens at a Lego convention? What's

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Speaker 2: going on over there?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Well, the the way that the ones work that I've

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Speaker 1: been to is that it's it's a several day convention,

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Speaker 1: and one or more days are the public day where

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Speaker 1: just anyone can buy a ticket and come in and

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Speaker 1: look at the stuff. But the rest of the time is,

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Speaker 1: you know, the adult, mostly adult Lego fans come, They

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Speaker 1: set up their creations, they look at it, they ask

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Speaker 1: questions to each other about it, and then there's activities.

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Speaker 1: There's speakers. The one I'm going to, there's one twenty

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Speaker 1: one plus night where you're allowed to drink on the

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Speaker 1: floor and people get real into that.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, that sounds very salacious. Twenty one plus Lego night,

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Speaker 2: we got more. Yeah, there's definitely gonna be more things

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Speaker 2: fitting into each other than just Legos that night. I'm

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Speaker 2: all right, well, come on, I've come on.

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Speaker 4: I've been to.

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Speaker 1: Ones where there's area.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I've been to ones where there's a blocked off area

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Speaker 1: specifically for the creations that are are a little too

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Speaker 1: racy for the public to see on the public the

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Speaker 1: public days.

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Speaker 2: Well, how could you Well, you know, the Lego figure

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Speaker 2: hand was perfectly designed for jacking people off.

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Speaker 1: I know, I've seen comics about that too.

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Speaker 2: It's perfectly phallic. If I had a honestly, if I had,

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Speaker 2: if I could take a shrink ray and make my

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Speaker 2: penis like the size of a little Lego peg, I

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Speaker 2: would definitely fuck like a little Lego hand.

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Speaker 1: Man. When I was in I was in like middle school,

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Speaker 1: when I first got like internet access, I started getting

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Speaker 1: I was on a bionical forum. I mean, I still am.

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Speaker 1: I'm meeting up with a bunch of the guys from

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Speaker 1: that forum at this convention.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 1: But when I was in middle school and just starting

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Speaker 1: to explore that and realizing that I could like send

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Speaker 1: my creations out with people from that forum to be displayed.

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Speaker 1: H and first of all my parents being like, you

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Speaker 1: can't just you're just gonna send your lego to people

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Speaker 1: who are just gonna take it. But then also exploring

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Speaker 1: the adult lego community online and like when there's when

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Speaker 1: there's one like racy lego comic or someone builds something

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Speaker 1: fallacious out of Lego, like the fear of uh oh,

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Speaker 1: my parents are going to see this on the Internet

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Speaker 2: What what Let me ask you this, what kind of

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Speaker 2: like are do people want to fuck legos?

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Speaker 1: Not not really no, but you know people do build

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Speaker 1: sexy anime girls out of Lego.

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Speaker 2: But how do you build a sexyan Like, oh, like

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Speaker 2: you make a okay when you like they make a

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Speaker 2: sexy anime girl figure out of Lego, but they don't

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Speaker 2: make like It's that like rule thirty four with the

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Speaker 2: Because I'm thinking about the Lego people, not the people

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Speaker 2: about like the Lego the Yellow Lego people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like people want it. Not my scene, but I

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Speaker 1: mean the Lego Princess Leigh I'm sure was somebody's awakening.

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Speaker 2: Because I guess you can like draw because most of

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Speaker 2: that stuff is not that there's no form, it's all textures.

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Speaker 2: So like if you want to draw, like if you

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Speaker 2: want to give a Lego figure big breasts, it's just

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Speaker 1: Well, when was the last time you looked at like

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Speaker 2: I'll do it right now. Look at I'll look at

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Speaker 2: Lego porn right now. I have a computer. Hold on, no,

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Speaker 1: The Lego figures that come out in Star Wars or whatever,

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Speaker 1: because it's actually.

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Speaker 2: Uh oh look at this. Okay, I gotta go whoa wait,

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Speaker 2: this is crazy? Oh oh wait, yo, look guess what?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, folks, I gotta shout out. I

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Speaker 2: gotta shout out. I gotta shout out. Pornhub dot com

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Speaker 2: slash h wood Rocket they made a they made this

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Speaker 2: porn parody. It's called the lay Go Movie Porn parody.

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Speaker 2: That's a little that's a reach. Don't you think they

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Speaker 2: should call it the late like lay you know, like

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Speaker 2: sex Lego the Lego movie and look at this there.

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Speaker 2: So it's actually I like the way they did it.

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Speaker 2: So the actor they start out, Okay, so you got

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Speaker 2: this guy and he's starting out and it's this is

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Speaker 2: a human being and he's wearing yellow face paint, and

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Speaker 2: he's wearing a big boxy Lego head thing and he's

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Speaker 2: dressed like what's his name?

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Speaker 1: Wait, these are people in cobs play.

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Speaker 2: Well, oh yeah, this would be a constant. But then okay,

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Speaker 2: but then when they have sex, they're taking oh wait,

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Speaker 2: look at this. Okay, all right, So if you go

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Speaker 2: to porn Hub and you go to the lay Go

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Speaker 2: movie at four fourteen, there's there's they have like a

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Speaker 2: human being that's taking the Lego figures and mashing them

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Speaker 2: together and making them fuck, and then this is actually creative.

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Speaker 2: It's so they're making them fuck, and then cuts to okay,

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Speaker 2: now the real people are having sex, and they're still

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Speaker 2: they're not wearing the bodies anymore, but they're wearing the

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Speaker 2: Lego heads and the Lego their whole bodies are painted yellow,

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Speaker 2: and they're having sex with a condom and they're wearing

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Speaker 2: these big yellow things on and they're fully painted. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're fully painted and yellow. Even the condom is yellow

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Speaker 2: when painted. Or nipples. Yeah, I think this guy painted

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Speaker 2: his dick yellow either is that the condom or is

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Speaker 2: that the dick? You're not you're not also on here, right,

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Speaker 2: You're just you're waiting for me to stop talking about this.

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Speaker 1: That's correct.

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Speaker 2: Okay, give me a little give me look may look

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Speaker 2: at let them look at the end credits. Guess how

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Speaker 2: many people it took to make this? One? Two three,

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Speaker 2: four five written by what do you means who? Someone

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Speaker 6: This.

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Speaker 2: Had a production manager, production manager George Glass, cinematographer Chad Lee,

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Speaker 2: somebody this set took a lot of people to make this,

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Speaker 2: had a sound mixer.

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Speaker 1: How many of those names are the same?

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Speaker 6: Repeated I? I.

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Speaker 2: That's just a good question. Oh wait, where does he come?

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Speaker 2: What the fuck? Why? What does hold on? Oh? Oh okay,

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Speaker 2: that's actually that's kind of cute. Okay, so he comes? Okay,

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Speaker 2: So it shows a close up of the guy's face

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Speaker 2: and he's making like an ejaculation face, and then it

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Speaker 2: shows him like and then it has like little you know,

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Speaker 2: the little lega what you know what these are called

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Speaker 2: the little they're like little caps, you know, like little

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Speaker 2: Lego caps.

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Speaker 1: Little caps. Are you talking about the ironically named uh studs?

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Speaker 2: Like just yes, yes, yes, yeah, the ship that you

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Speaker 2: would collect in like the Lego Star Wars games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So they have a close up of him and

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Speaker 2: he's coming and then you you can't see his dick,

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Speaker 2: but they have like a bunch of white studs that

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Speaker 2: he's like coming Lego. And then it cuts to the

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Speaker 2: lady's back and it's just like from off camera, like

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Speaker 2: they're throwing yet white studs on the lady's back and

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Speaker 2: she just has like all this like all these like

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Speaker 2: white studs laying on her that I guess are supposed

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Speaker 2: to be like Lego. Come. Okay, let's see how many

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Speaker 2: of these names are Okay, a few of these names are, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of them aren't. Okay, Donnie Rock, that's

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Speaker 2: a real person. No, I mean that's yeah, that hasn't

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: I think these are a lot of individuals that made this.

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Speaker 2: I think this took at least ten individual people to make.

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Speaker 2: Are you still there?

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Speaker 1: I am still here. No, actually into it to have

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Speaker 1: not just as a gas.

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Speaker 2: So what's your favorite set? Before we go? What's your

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Speaker 2: favorite Lego set?

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Speaker 1: Oh man? It's a bionical Terracava. It's one of the

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Speaker 1: Beast sets from two thousand and one, and it comes

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Speaker 1: with two wizards that they're back legs are treads and

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Speaker 1: they can punch each other like rock and sock and

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Speaker 1: robots and knock each other's masks off. I remade the

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Speaker 1: set a while ago, and it's one of the things

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Speaker 1: I'm bringing to this convention.

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Speaker 2: Actually, that's awesome. That's sick. Yeah, it's like that seems

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Speaker 2: like a good way to meet people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 2: What's your Do you have a dream set? I know that.

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Speaker 2: I know they're expensive. I know that, like they kind

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Speaker 2: of get up there. Do you have a dream one

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Speaker 2: that you hope to get one day?

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Speaker 1: Oh man? So it was just anything the Legend of Zelda.

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Speaker 1: But they came out with the Lego Decu tree and

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Speaker 1: you can either build it to be from Operno time

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Speaker 1: or yeah, it's Operato time or Breath of the Wild.

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Speaker 1: There there's like a bifurcation in the instructions. You go

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Speaker 1: one way or the other, and it comes with the

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Speaker 1: minifigures for Breath of the Wild Zelda Breath of the

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Speaker 1: Wild link and Young and Adult link from Operative time.

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Speaker 1: So that way, like, that's what I wanted, and.

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Speaker 2: It was that's actually really sick. But that's really sick.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, Lego Dekou tree. Oh oh, this

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Speaker 2: is like a license and shit, oh this is like, bro,

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Speaker 2: this is three hundred dollars. That's crazy. I see why

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Speaker 2: this is three hundred dollars. This is probably like one

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Speaker 2: of their like big dick exclusive ones.

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Speaker 1: Well, it actually feels pretty small for three hundred dollars,

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Speaker 1: And part of that's because of the license bumping up

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Speaker 1: the price, and then part of it is because so

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Speaker 1: many of the parts only get used for one or

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Speaker 1: the other decu trees, So you end up with this

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Speaker 1: bag of leftover parts that you paid for but you

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Speaker 1: can't display.

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Speaker 2: There's so much Zelda porn. Wait, dude, hold on, the

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Speaker 2: get the fucking the same people who made the lay

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Speaker 2: go movie parody. Would Rocket also made a Legend of

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Speaker 2: Zelda one. They call it the Legend of Zildo. I

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Speaker 2: don't like their names. They're reaches because that's like, what,

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Speaker 2: that's like a hold on? Why is it not? It's

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Speaker 2: not coming up the legend of Zildo because that's like,

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Speaker 2: Debts. I hope you have a good time at this

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Speaker 2: Rock and roll. Thank you very much, good luck at you.

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Speaker 4: Well, I refer to her as my wife, but we're

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 2: By I love that. By the way, why the fuck not?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean what what what did it mean? What

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Speaker 4: We've been together for We were together for like about

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Speaker 4: Yeah? My mom will buy me groceries every once in

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Speaker 2: How old is your wife? Same age twenty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I don't know why. Just that wasn't the

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Speaker 2: have you have friends, and what you developed social awkwardness

442
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: at like a regular like an normal baseline, you know

443
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So when you go to like a

444
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: video game tournament, you have to understand that your social awkwardness,

445
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: like your level of social awkwardness is above the baseline

446
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: level of social awkwardness at this event.

447
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that's a fair point.

448
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. So, like I mean, you

449
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 2: can go, you can go up to anyone and start

450
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: talking to them at this tournament, and if if they're

451
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: being weird, that's on them, you know what I mean.

452
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: Your when you when you go to what I believe this,

453
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: By the way, I fully believe this, And this is

454
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 2: I'm not just trying to be whatever about like video

455
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 2: game tournaments. I love going to video game tournaments, and

456
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: there's actually are there are a lot of really cool

457
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 2: people that uh hang out in the Smash Bros. Scene

458
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: that I've met. Any social event Smash Bros Tournament, a party, uh,

459
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: you know, a bar, some some settings, not all of

460
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: our settings, but some bar settings, you know, But specifically

461
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 2: at clubs or whatever. In any of it, you know,

462
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: if you go out of your way to make conversation

463
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: with someone, you are abiding in good faith to the

464
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: social contract. Okay, you're not breaking any for saying interacting

465
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: with a person in and of itself is lawfully abiding

466
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: by social contract. Okay, it because it's only if only if, like,

467
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: you're talking to someone there and they're making it pretty

468
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: abundantly clear that they don't want to talk to you,

469
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: then you start to break the social contract if you

470
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: continue to talk to them. But a lot of people

471
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: do that because they they aren't aware of the cues

472
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: that somebody doesn't want to keep talking to them. But

473
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: you know, generally, I think if you're lawfully abid it,

474
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: you're just you're not being a dick. You know, if

475
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: somebody is being cold to you at a fucking thing

476
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: where people go, sure to play video games, sure to knit,

477
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: sure to whatever the fucking thing underneath everything is. But really,

478
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: people go places to meet other people. I think, I assume,

479
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: so you're playing the rules of the game here, So

480
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: if someone gives you the cold shoulder, that's on them. Fuck.

481
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: I want to say, damn it, I don't know if

482
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: I told this. I don't know if I talked about

483
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: this on the podcast before. Maybe I did. Stop me,

484
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: do you listen to this podcast or did.

485
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 4: You find all the time at work? I'll let you

486
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 4: know if I've heard.

487
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 6: Okay, let me know.

488
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: Okay, let me know if I've talk because I feel

489
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: like I've repeated myself a lot on here anyway, but

490
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 2: I'm okay, do you okay? Do you remember I did

491
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: an episode in the park where, uh, this woman invited

492
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: me to like a party afterwards afterwards? Yeah, yeah, so

493
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 2: I went. I went to this party. Shout out, shout out,

494
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: shout out, Rachel. Rachel's cool. But she invited me to this.

495
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: Thing.

496
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: And she invited me this thing at this guy's house,

497
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: and I show up and she's not. At first, she's

498
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: not there, which is funny. She's not there. And then

499
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: but there was like, I'm just like in some guy's

500
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: house and there's four people sitting at a table and

501
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: I'm just in this guy's house and nobody knows who

502
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 2: I am.

503
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 3: And so.

504
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: I start talking to one of the guys and I'm like, hey, man,

505
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: what's your name? And I don't remember his actual name,

506
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: but he goes like on Brian, and I'm like, okay,

507
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: uh what uh, how's how's your how's your day going?

508
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: What's up?

509
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: Man?

510
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: How's life? And he's like us, you know, it's all right.

511
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: And then I'm and then I'm like, oh what do

512
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: you what do you do around the city? And he goes, oh,

513
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: I I'm a hairstylist. And I'm like okay, and now okay,

514
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: and so and and and then in that moment, right, okay,

515
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: and that that's a key That's a crucial moment for

516
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: me in that evening because in that moment, I am

517
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: in a stranger's house that that I was invited to

518
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: by a different stranger. I really shouldn't be there, and

519
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: that and and and that interaction with that hairstylist guy

520
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: is a clear for like, I didn't want to talk

521
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: to me. And that's but if and here's the thing,

522
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: if I had interpreted him not wanting to talk to

523
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: me as I should not talk to anyone. I'm I'm

524
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: a freak. Why would anyone want to talk to me?

525
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: Of course, this guy I doesn't want to talk to me.

526
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: You know, why would anyone want to talk to me?

527
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 2: I suck? I'm a freak, I'm weird. Nobody this is

528
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: I shouldn't be here, you know. I would have gone

529
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: home and that would have been the end of my evening.

530
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: But I stuck around for a little bit, and then

531
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: more people started coming to the event. Okay, and then

532
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: I went up to this one lady at the event

533
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: and I was like, Hey, what's up. How's your Shabbat going?

534
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: And she was like, oh, it's going good. How about you?

535
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: What's how's how are you doing? And I'm like, all right,

536
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: here we go see, you know, and then we had

537
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: a conversation. I started talking to other people. It was good,

538
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: it was fun. I had a fun evening. I met

539
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: people as a fun party. It was a great time.

540
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: But if but if in that one moment where it

541
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: was a little bit weird and I there was the

542
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: one person I mustered up the courage to talk to,

543
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: I was rebuffed by if in that one moment I

544
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: had been like, designed that I am a weirdo and

545
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: I shouldn't be here, I would have never tried again.

546
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: And then met somebody who is who and then met

547
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: another person who is like, oh yes, I also came

548
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: to this social event to socialize, you know, they're out there.

549
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: But but yeah, so everything most of you have to

550
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: just remember and understand that so many of the interaction

551
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: this is the part I think I've talked about on

552
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: the fucking show a bunch of all the time. But like,

553
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: so many of the interactions that you have have nothing

554
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: to do with you at all. Yeah, so yeah, next

555
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: time I've talked about I feel like I've talked about this.

556
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: We talked to the anime guy. I think that was

557
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: mainly when I talked to Yeah, I don't you remember

558
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: that guy you wanted to go to an anime convention?

559
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: But he was yeah, And it's like, yeah, I said,

560
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: I fucking said that to that guy, Like, yeah, you

561
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: know you're gonna go to this anime invention. If the

562
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: first person you talked to is kind of cold to you,

563
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: you can't let that stop you from, you know, putting

564
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: yourself out there because uh, you know, you might who

565
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: knows when. And also I try, I know by the

566
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: way I'm I'm I'm gonna throw myself out here in

567
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: a way that I try not to, you know, within

568
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: the best of my abilities. Sometimes maybe I'm like, uh,

569
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: my brain has many you know I have I'm crazy

570
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: and my brain has short circuits a lot. But I try.

571
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: I try, really, I do try. Like I try to

572
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: be mindful. Like if I'm in a social situation, if

573
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 2: I'm at a party or an event or a tournament

574
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: or a meeting or something, and I see somebody and

575
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: somebody start talking to me, and I'm like, Oh, I'm

576
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: the guy that they this. I'm like the first person

577
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 2: that this guy has mosted up the courage to talk

578
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: to it.

579
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 6: This thing.

580
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 2: I'll try. It's really important to me that I I

581
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 2: want to reward or that, you know, because if I

582
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: see it from that end, I think that's an important

583
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: thing to do too, is to be mindful. If you're

584
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: at a thing, if somebody's coming to you with the

585
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: energy of like, hey, what's that man, what's your name,

586
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 2: to be like, Hey, I'm Loyle, what's your name? How

587
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: are you doing? What's up? You know, try to make

588
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 2: people feel welcome. You know, if I'm if I'm in

589
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: a if I'm talking to a circle, if I'm talking

590
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 2: to like a circle of people, I'll try to look

591
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: at everyone in the circle, you know, make eye contact

592
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: with it, because you know, we've all been there, we've

593
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: all been in a circle of people and everyone's talking,

594
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: and you'd notice that nobody's who's talking is looking at you,

595
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, I'm not I don't even am I.

596
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: I don't even know if I'm a part of this

597
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: circle right now, you know, So try to do that.

598
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think I had some experience recently that

599
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: was reflective of this, but oh yeah, well no, this

600
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 2: wasn't recent. This is an old story.

601
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: I was. I was.

602
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: I was in uh I. I was in uh Rome.

603
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: I got to study abroad there, which was nice, and

604
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 2: uh I was didd I was with like some one

605
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: of some of the other kids from the program, and

606
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: we were like eating. We were like standing outside of

607
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 2: a pizza place, just like at like a standing table,

608
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 2: and this random Polish girl who was probably around our age,

609
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: we were a little older, just walks up to the

610
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 2: table with her pizza and she goes, I'm here alone

611
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: and I don't have anyone else to eat with, so

612
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna eat with you guys. And I was like,

613
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 2: I remember, I remember being like, whoa, that's fucking wild,

614
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: that's wild. I respected that so much. I was really like,

615
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: oh my god, what a what a fucking swing. I

616
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: gotta uh, I wanted I gotta reward that swing. I

617
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: think the other one of the whoever, the other kid

618
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 2: I was with, was more like, oh, that's a little

619
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: fucking weird. But I was like, no, that's a that's

620
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: a this person's gonna be fine for the rest of

621
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 2: their lives. You know, this person's gonna have a great

622
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: rest of their life. That's such a fearless thing to do.

623
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 2: We had a nice conversation, and you know, we I

624
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: ate with them, and that was good. I was that

625
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: I only met that woman once, but she continues to

626
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: inspire me for the rest of my life. That was

627
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 2: when I was like twenty I'm twenty seven. I still

628
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 2: remember that I had. That's something similar happened.

629
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 6: I was the.

630
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: I was like eating alone. What this is when I

631
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: was like doing comedy in Philadelphia. I was eating alone

632
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: at this like burrito place, and there were no seats

633
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: left except the one across from me and this guy

634
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: he's older than me, and he was like, there's nowhere

635
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 2: else to sit, so I'm gonna sit with you, and

636
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: then uh, he just we just start talking and again

637
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: he that harkened me back to the girl in Rome.

638
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: I was like, this is a confident move and he

639
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: he was like, what are you doing. I was like, oh,

640
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: I was doing comedy and he was like, tell me

641
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 2: a joke. And I was like, no, that's not really

642
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: how it works, you know. And then it was like

643
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: but he was just so confident. I felt like a jerk,

644
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 2: because if you tell a comedian to tell to tell

645
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: you a joke, you're kind of being a jerk. But

646
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: I was the jerk for not so I just tell

647
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: him joke. And I told him a joke and he

648
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: was like, that's not very funny, and it made me, like,

649
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 2: it made me laugh a lot. I was like, who

650
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 2: is this guy? I want to be? I want I

651
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: want to sprinkle of what this guy has. This is

652
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: really good. Yeah, but yeah, throughout I just throughout my life,

653
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 2: I've learned a little tricks too. Occasionally, like I'll be

654
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 2: at a little some social function or some thing, and

655
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: if I'm in the right headspace, I will like go

656
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: up to a group and be like, again, if I'm

657
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: in the like, if I'm if I'm like depressed and

658
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: anxious and weird, I wouldn't I won't ever do this.

659
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: But if I'm like if I got a little bit,

660
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: if I get a little bit of caffeine and it's

661
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 2: just been a good day and I'm i self esteem

662
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: is coursing through my veins. You can I'll just go

663
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: up to a group and I'll be like, hey, can

664
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 2: I join this conversation? You know, it depends on what

665
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 2: it is. Like, if it's like a bar, I wouldn't.

666
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: I won't do that because that's you know what it

667
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: could be a group that came out in and of

668
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 2: themselves to have a good time with each other. I

669
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: don't want to disrupt the sanctity of that. But if

670
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: it's but if I go to something, but if I

671
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: go to like a I don't know, I go to

672
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 2: all these weird things around New York, Yeah, where it's

673
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 2: like come meet now. Well, like if it's if it's

674
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: a thing where like the point of the thing is

675
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: to meet new people, then it's very easy for me

676
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: to go up and be like, hey, you guys all

677
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: doing But yeah, that's why it's it's best to go

678
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: to places like that where the point of the context

679
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 2: is important, right. I would never go up like because

680
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: you know, the bar is different from the place where

681
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: if I'm at an event where the point of the

682
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: event is to talk to people, then I'm you know,

683
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 2: I have the benefit of the doubt when I attempt

684
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: to have a conversation with someone. So anyway, that was

685
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: a long rant.

686
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 6: But.

687
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: I believe at your dragon ball Z I believe at

688
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: your dragon ball Z tournaments you have the benefit of

689
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: the doubt when having a conversation.

690
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the odds are probably stacked in my favorite.

691
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: Odds just ACKed in your favor. Yeah, just keep going

692
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 2: to places where odds are stacked in your favor.

693
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good idea, Thank you, GAK.

694
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's weird. Some places are someplaces odds are clear,

695
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: Like like like if I see sometimes I'll be at

696
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: like the the park and I'll see someone I want

697
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 2: to talk to, and I like have a fantasy in

698
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: my head. I'm like, what if I went over and

699
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: talked to that person? And then I'll be like, yeah,

700
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: but the context of the that's too iffy of a context,

701
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: you know, because who knows this, Yeah, they might just

702
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: want to be alone. But if it's like at some

703
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: fucking a bar, is a bar is a weird in

704
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: between context because one can reasonably expect that one goes

705
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: out to bars to meet people. One could also reasonably

706
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: expect one goes out to bars to just be hanging

707
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: out with their friends. That's a little like that. Context

708
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: takes a little bit more courage. But if it's a

709
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: thing where everyone has a fucking name tag on, that's easy.

710
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 6: Mm hmm.

711
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: What's your name again? I wish I could put name

712
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: tags on the callers.

713
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be pretty sweet, if there's a way to

714
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 4: do that.

715
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: Of my name is Barney, Barney, Barney, you have you

716
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: have a two year old son? That's insane.

717
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty cool.

718
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 2: Good luck with that. I mean that sincerely. I don't

719
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: mean that in a uh you know away.

720
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, someone, I appreciate that.

721
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: Someone called into shout out, Shout out Stavros Halkius. I'm

722
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: a big fan of his podcast. I listened. I listened

723
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: to it to sleep and uh. He had a caller

724
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: on once who talked about like having a kid when

725
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: he was eighteen, and he brought up he was like, yo,

726
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: when you're thirty six, because like if I like, if

727
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: I have a kid when I'm like I'm twenty seven,

728
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: if I have a kid when I'm thirty six, I'm

729
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: gonna just be getting started with all of that.

730
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

731
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: Right, but by the time you're thirty six, you'll be

732
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: I mean, you're never done, but you know what I mean,

733
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: you're you'll be done ish.

734
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 6: Yeah.

735
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: So that's pretty that's pretty cool. That's pretty good.

736
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is pretty cool that it works out like that.

737
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were, there were there. I think there are

738
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: a lot of advantages to you know, they're they're not

739
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: talked about as much as the disadvantages and the hardships

740
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: of it, But there are advantages I think to being

741
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: a younger parent in that way.

742
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I see all the bright side of it,

743
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 4: you know, I like to look at it with the

744
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 4: positive perspective.

745
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: Well, but do you say your name is Brian.

746
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 4: It's Barney, Barney like the Dinosaur.

747
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 2: Thanks for letting me talk to myself and you for yeah,

748
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: I minutes, Sparney. I appreciate it. I did have one

749
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, go ahead, please.

750
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 4: One more thing? On the recent podcast, man, why were

751
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 4: you so weird about the hand guy? I thought it

752
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 4: was cool.

753
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 2: It was a little hold on, it was a little bizarre.

754
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 4: It is bizarre, but I thought it was cool.

755
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 2: Were you the one that do you make a comment

756
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 2: on Spotify or something.

757
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 4: Perhaps I did make a comment that yeah, okay, I.

758
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: Was okay because I did. If that wasn't you, I

759
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: was gonna be like, why are multiple people saying this?

760
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, I'm probably just the one weird guy

761
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 4: that thought the hand thing was cool.

762
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: I thought, I really want to know. I wanted to

763
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: talk to the hand guy, but he didn't want to

764
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: like sit down and fully talk.

765
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just trying to get his hand picks and get.

766
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: Out of there, and he can have if he wants to.

767
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: Honest honestly, listen, if that guy wants to take a

768
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: picture of my hand and jerk off to it, it

769
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: really hurts me in zero wait shape or for him.

770
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 4: I don't think he's jerking off. Man, I did not

771
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 4: get them.

772
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll never We'll never know. I mean,

773
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 2: maybe i'll see him at the park again. Who knows.

774
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: Maybe he's the hand park guy.

775
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe maybe he prowls there for hand picks often.

776
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 2: Barney, good luck and I will see you around the universe.

777
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 6: Thank you.

778
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 4: I will see you around the universe while have a

779
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 4: good day.

780
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: Man you too. Bye Barney.

781
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 3: Bye.

782
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah, talking to people's the whole thing. It's

783
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: something I'd like to be good at. It's way easier

784
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: to do it on a podcast. I think, I'm I

785
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: think I'm pretty good at it, not on a podcast,

786
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 2: but it's way easier to do on a podcast. And

787
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: it's all it's it's not about confidence. It's about context,

788
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 2: or I guess it is about confidence, And the amount

789
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: of confidence I have is based on the context, right,

790
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: you know, like if I'm in the gecko suit and

791
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: I'm chatting with somebody, I have more confidence in that

792
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: context because I'm you know, there's a reason for me

793
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: to be talking to this person. If I just go

794
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 2: up to somebody randomly at the park, if I were

795
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: just starting to ran, If I just went up to

796
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: somebody randomly at the park and just started being like, Hey,

797
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: can you tell me about your life, that'd be a

798
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: weird that would feel uncomfortable. But I but if I'm ware,

799
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: But if I set up a bunch of cameras and

800
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: I if I set up a camera and I wear

801
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 2: a gecko suit and a person comes over to me

802
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: and we engage in this thing to make this podcast,

803
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: then the context is completely different, even if the actual

804
00:46:55,160 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 2: conversation is the same. Boogers, Hello, Lyle, Hi, what's your name, sir?

805
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 6: My name is CJ.

806
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: CJ. What's going on?

807
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 6: Man? Man, so much is going on. I'm glad you answered.

808
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 6: I feel like I'm just stuck at this point in

809
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 6: my life and I don't know I could I could

810
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 6: use some advice on maybe what to do or to

811
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 6: know maybe I'm going in the right direction or I

812
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 6: don't know, man, I just feel really stuck in the

813
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 6: sense of hopelessness.

814
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: I can ponder this with you. I can ponder this

815
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: with you. What do you feel stuck about?

816
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 6: My job? So right now, I do like hard labor,

817
00:47:53,400 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 6: and you I make decent money. It's nothing incredible. It's

818
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 6: not like I rolling in the dough or anything. You know,

819
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 6: I have three kids and a wife, and you know,

820
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 6: we have all all of the the bills that go

821
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 6: with that, and right man, I just I wake up

822
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 6: and I just hate like just waking up and knowing

823
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 6: I'm going to go spend all day in the heat.

824
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 6: It's just absolutely miserable. And it just sucks because you know,

825
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 6: they've promised me so much there and because I can

826
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 6: do other stuff you know, like I've built them a

827
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 6: website and you know, all the stuff, and you know,

828
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 6: they promised me, oh, you know, we could do like

829
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 6: a hybrid schedule with you where you can work in

830
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 6: the office and you can you know, do your regular job,

831
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 6: and all the promises have just gone to shit. So

832
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 6: now I'm just stuck doing my regular job and I'm

833
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 6: going to school. But like, I want to start my

834
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 6: own business because I'm I'm so sick of feeling like this.

835
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 6: I'm so miserable. And my wife works opposite shift, so

836
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 6: like today, you know, I worked all day just to

837
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 6: come home and see her for thirty minutes and she's

838
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 6: been gone for an hour now, and I don't know

839
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 6: that that is how I feel stuck. I just feel

840
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 6: like we're in this cycle just repeating itself over and

841
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 6: over and over, and it's like, hmmm, we can't ever

842
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 6: get ahead financially, you know. I'm you know, we could

843
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 6: pay our bills on time and stuff, but it's not

844
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 6: like we have a bunch of money left over.

845
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: Howl. How old are kids?

846
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 5: Four?

847
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 6: Two and five months?

848
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 2: Shit?

849
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: Man?

850
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 2: How old are you?

851
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 6: I turned twenty nine in June.

852
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: Man, Well, here's I'll look I'm gonna tell you something

853
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 2: real quick. What's your name again, CJ?

854
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 6: C J.

855
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something real quick off the bat.

856
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 2: Your life situation is very different from mine because you

857
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 2: have three kids. So I'm not qualified to give you

858
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: advice in any way, shape or form. But we can talk.

859
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: I'm curious, I have questions, I have maybe thoughts, but yeah,

860
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: I'm not qualified to advise about this in any way,

861
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: shape or form.

862
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 3: Uh.

863
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: You said that your promises were not fulfilled like this company? Yeah, yeah,

864
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 2: talking with you.

865
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, like over the winter, it gets a

866
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 6: little slower because like I work outside, but we do

867
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 6: like snowplowing stuff.

868
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: But you know, they're like, and you're going to and

869
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 2: you're going to school, all right, So I'm gonna just

870
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: I'll just cut to the chase on that one, and

871
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, look, this company is telling you things

872
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: and they're not keeping their promises, and there ain't a

873
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: lot you can do about that, right, So what what

874
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: what are you going to school for?

875
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 6: I'm going to school for marketing.

876
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 2: You're going to school for marketing. You said you're going

877
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 2: to school and you want to start a business.

878
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to start a marketing company. I have

879
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 6: a lot of experience. Me and my wife lived in

880
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 6: the Denver area, and I started and founded our own

881
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 6: little cleaning company, and you know, I did all the marketing,

882
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 6: and you know, I grew it within a year where

883
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 6: we had two employees. You know, I was doing all

884
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 6: the payroll, just you know, every single thing within a business.

885
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 4: I was doing.

886
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 2: What happened to the company, And.

887
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 6: Well, we moved and it was during COVID, so it

888
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 6: kind of we moved and the business was kind of

889
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 6: slowing down because of COVID, and so I just I

890
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 6: just shut it down and we moved back to where

891
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 6: where we were from.

892
00:51:53,480 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 2: So where where are you from? Where are you from from?

893
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 6: Utah?

894
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 2: Okay? Which place is cheaper to live in?

895
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 6: I would say Utah. In Denver, we were paying the

896
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 6: same price what we're paying right now, which is like

897
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 6: twenty two hundred in Denver, though it was a one bed,

898
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 6: one bath, like eight hundred square feet, and here in Utah,

899
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 6: twenty two hundred is getting us a three bed, two

900
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,959
Speaker 6: bath and it's about sixteen hundred square feet.

901
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: So I really Utah, I really feel like I'm on

902
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: the Dave Ramsey Show right now. I don't know how

903
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: my show ended up accidentally becoming like Dave Ramsey Show,

904
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 2: except instead of an old Christian man, it's just a

905
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: just some dumb guy. It doesn't know what he's talking about.

906
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 6: But I.

907
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: Okay, man, So I got well, I'm curious about this.

908
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 2: Why are you, like, are you going into debt to

909
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 2: go to school?

910
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 4: Yeah?

911
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 6: I am hold on?

912
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 2: Why the all right? All right? Why the fuck are

913
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 2: you doing that?

914
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 6: Because I feel, like I said, I feel stuck. So

915
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 6: like I've been doing you know, hard labor and construction

916
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 6: like all my life, you know, right right.

917
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 2: Sorry started to interrupt you, but I get the notion

918
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: of you're doing because you feel stuck. You're trying to

919
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 2: extend outside of your routine into something greater. I think

920
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 2: that's awesome. I think that's great, right, But to me

921
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: to go get a degree in marketing to like what

922
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: to like, are you getting a degree in marketing to

923
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 2: start your own business or to like get a job or.

924
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 6: Well, I mean I just kind of both, Like I

925
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 6: would want a degree to start a business so someone

926
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 6: knows that I'm credible, you know what I mean? Yeah?

927
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, but dude, okay, actually I do feel I

928
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 2: do feel fairly confident in this advice is like, Okay,

929
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: you know you're in a rut and you're extending outside

930
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: of your rut to try to do something, which, by

931
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: the way, man, what's your name again, I'm sorry I

932
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 2: bod with names.

933
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 6: No, you're fine. CJ.

934
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 2: CJ. By the way, CJ. Just so you know, I really,

935
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: truly I commend you for doing that because you have

936
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 2: a tough life, having three fucking kids, barely seeing your wife,

937
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: always working, and still finding time to change because a

938
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: lot of times like there's only enough time and energy

939
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 2: for maintenance, and then to act some kind of change

940
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 2: is like you have to dig fucking beyond yourself and

941
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: it's really really hard. So I commend you for even

942
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 2: trying to do that.

943
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 4: I really do.

944
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 6: I appreciate it. And that's why I'm trying to start

945
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 6: a business or something.

946
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: Because but here's the and so here's the thing and

947
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: the reason, and I'm getting a little fired up about

948
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 2: this is because if I don't get why you're it

949
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 2: with all the effort that you're exerting to do something

950
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: outside of yourself, I don't understand why you would do

951
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 2: something that ends with you being in more debt. I I,

952
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: it's twenty twenty five, my friend. It's twenty twenty five,

953
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 2: my friend, it's twenty twenty five, my friend. You don't

954
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: need a marketing degree to show that your business is credible, you.

955
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 6: Know, right I.

956
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 2: And also you've already you've already started a business.

957
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah I did previously.

958
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

959
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know, man, I just feel like that

960
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 6: piece of paper, which maybe I just eat up all

961
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 6: the propaganda that we've gotten since we were young, that

962
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 6: piece of paper will maybe just help me, you know

963
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 6: what I mean? Because right now, it's just what's going

964
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 6: on isn't working. And you know, I've applied for marketing

965
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 6: jobs and I've had like multiple interviews, and uh, it

966
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 6: just never pans out.

967
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 2: And we're we're at a weird place. I think I'm

968
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 2: totally talking completely out of my ass with nothing to

969
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: cite anything at all, because you know whatever, I'm a

970
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 2: dumb podcaster. But uh, it's it's it's well, it just

971
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, is that it seems as though

972
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 2: we're getting not a weird inflection point where like economically,

973
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 2: people without degrees and people with degrees are having similar struggles.

974
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 6: Right, And I see that and it kind of it

975
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 6: kind of frightens me, like of course with everything AI,

976
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 6: It's like, why would someone hire me for marketing when

977
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 6: they can just fucking type into chat GBT and we'll

978
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 6: do the same fucking thing.

979
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 2: Well sure, but I here's here's what I would say.

980
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: My your dream is you want to you want to

981
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 2: be a white collar guy. You want to be on

982
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: the computer at home with your kids. You want to

983
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 2: be doing that. I would love that. Son, how many

984
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: hours a week them? How many hours a week are

985
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: you in school?

986
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 6: So it's all online, so I do it full time,

987
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 6: so you know, like so like right now it is

988
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 6: like a perfect example. So I got home, my wife

989
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 6: went to work, my kids go to bed because they're young,

990
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 6: around like seven thirty, and then after that I will

991
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 6: kind of sit at my desk for two three hours

992
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 6: and do it to do school and then or like

993
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 6: right now, like I said, I'm trying to start the business,

994
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 6: so like I can build a website.

995
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 2: So what are you going to do a little? What

996
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: do you do in school? Like what do you actually do?

997
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 6: Just learn about mark marketing? Like the last one was

998
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 6: about professional communication. I had to write like two papers

999
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 6: and do a presentation on PowerPoint and this one is

1000
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 6: all about power Uh PowerPoint Excel. No, not PowerPoint. What

1001
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 6: the hell am I saying? Microsoft Excel. Yeah, so like

1002
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 6: this one is kind of more like, uh, I guess

1003
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 6: like this term is more techie. It's all like stuff

1004
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 6: on the computer. But like last time it was like

1005
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 6: fund Like last term was like fundamental of marketings and

1006
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 6: marketing management and all this bullshit.

1007
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 2: So how much how much money do you are? You

1008
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: do you spend to do that?

1009
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 6: So it's a little bit cheaper than like I would

1010
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 6: think you would assume. So per term, there's two terms,

1011
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 6: so like it's just like six months. I don't know

1012
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 6: what a regular college is. I've never been to a

1013
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 6: regular college anyways. So every year, let's see, so I

1014
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 6: think every six months, it's about thirty seven fifty So

1015
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 6: three thousand, seven hundred and fifty dollars every six months, Okay,

1016
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 6: And yeah, it's not horrible and it's go it's go

1017
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 6: at your own pace. So like if I really wanted

1018
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 6: to and I didn't have like all these outside variables,

1019
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 6: Like I know this guy who went to the same college,

1020
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 6: he wasn't doing the same degree, but he got it done.

1021
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 6: In six months, So like he got his whole degree

1022
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 6: in six months.

1023
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so you go, how and how's he doing?

1024
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 2: Does he have a job? Is did his degree help him?

1025
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 2: Because I'm actually okay, but it's actually now that you

1026
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: say that, it was only like, you know, three seventy

1027
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: something for six months. That's not that's not horrible.

1028
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 5: What what?

1029
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 3: Uh?

1030
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, your boy, I mean your boy. He got the degree,

1031
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 2: Like what was he doing?

1032
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 6: Now? Yeah, he's doing he has a corporate corporate life.

1033
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 6: Now he's I think last time I talked to him

1034
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 6: because I.

1035
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 2: Was gonna say, you gotta ask him for job, dude.

1036
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 6: Well see, and that's the thing. It's like, you know,

1037
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 6: I ask around and like that's kind of what happened.

1038
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 6: Like I asked him, and he got me in touch

1039
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 6: with the CEO, and then the CEO got me in

1040
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 6: touch of like with the marketing director, and then I

1041
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 6: went and had an interview and then just nothing. It's

1042
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 6: just like, oh man, like all that effort, you know,

1043
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 6: redoing my resume, Yeah, just absolutely just for nothing.

1044
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 5: And it's so like disheartening, Like okay, and you're at

1045
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 5: the same time as you're doing school, you're also working

1046
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 5: on a business like you're you're also working on a business,

1047
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 5: like for marketing.

1048
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,959
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I haven't started anything yet. It's been something

1049
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 6: that's been in the works. Like I said, I'm building

1050
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 6: my own website, so I'm not hiring someone to do that.

1051
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 6: And then you know, I'm coming up with a business plan,

1052
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 6: which I have, and then I have like pricing models

1053
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 6: and pressing structures for different things, cause I already specialize

1054
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 6: in digital ads. So like when I ran my queening company,

1055
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 6: I got all of my business through Google, So I

1056
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 6: did like my own Google Ads, and I optimized, like

1057
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 6: you know, my website that I made it once again,

1058
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 6: you know, like on page off page SEO, like all

1059
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 6: this structured data, the metadata, all that bullshit, like I'm

1060
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 6: really proficient in. So I'm doing that right now. And

1061
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 6: then so I'm guessing in one to two months, I'm

1062
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 6: going to try to get the business license and then utah,

1063
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 6: it's like sixty five bucks and then I'm just gonna man,

1064
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna fucking wing it, you know, because I

1065
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 6: feel like in ten years, if I don't do it

1066
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 6: right now, I'm gonna regret, Like what if what if?

1067
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 6: Like what if I could have built something for my family.

1068
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna ask, is do you are?

1069
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 2: Is your is your dream life? Like you build something

1070
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 2: for your family or your dream life is you clock

1071
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 2: in and then at five pm you put turn the

1072
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 2: fucking computer off.

1073
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 6: No, Like, I know, working for myself is probably gonna

1074
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 6: be way harder in a sense, not physically is going

1075
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 6: to be way harder than what I'm doing now, but

1076
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 6: because like, like when I worked for myself, I worked

1077
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 6: seven days a week for like a year until like

1078
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 6: I got those two employees and then I kind of

1079
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 6: could take some time off. It wasn't a lot, but

1080
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 6: that was the most money I've ever made. So like,

1081
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 6: you know, my my goal in life isn't to be

1082
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 6: a billionaire or a hundred millionaire. Like my definition of

1083
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 6: rich is someone who can pay their bills and not

1084
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 6: worry about like their financial area, Like oh yeah I

1085
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 6: could pay rent, I could pay this, I could pay this,

1086
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 6: Like all my bills are paid, and maybe let's plan

1087
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 6: a vacation. You know, in my definition, that's rich. And

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Speaker 6: right now, okay, like like we're just not there and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but we're getting were getting ahead of ourselves

1090
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 2: here is like we're just trying to figure out. I

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01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm just thinking about like those those hours

1092
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 2: that you're extending beyond yourself.

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01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 6: Dude, it's exhausting.

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01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 2: Oh sure, well I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure it's exhausting.

1095
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 2: And that's why I'm thinking about what the best thing

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01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 2: for you to be doing with that time is. And

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01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 2: it's probably Oh, I don't know, man, I I'm I

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01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 2: don't know, is is I and I don't I don't

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01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 2: know the industry, but I have to gander that like that,

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01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how worth while it is for you

1101
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 2: to be, like, like, how worthwhile is it for you

1102
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 2: to be like writing fucking papers? You know? Like no,

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01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: I get it, Like like because you because you're because

1104
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 2: you're a tinker, You're you're a tinkerer.

1105
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 3: You know.

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01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 2: There there, you're you're. I mean that, that's I think

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01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 2: that's what everyone wants they want to I mean not everyone,

1108
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 2: but you know, tinkerers. I remember I had a large

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01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 2: period of time in my life where I was a

1110
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 2: tinkerer and I was like, how the fuck do I

1111
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 2: make money that I don't have a real job, And

1112
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 2: I was fucking think about all kinds of ship like

1113
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: whatever Facebook, ad marketing or drop shipping or all that

1114
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 2: kind of a ship. And I don't know. I I think, well,

1115
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 2: I can't, I can't. I'll say that. I'll say this,

1116
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 2: and you you ultimately get to decide what is right

1117
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 2: for you. But I would sit with yourself for a

1118
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 2: little bit and go, Okay, of all the options of

1119
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 2: all the things that I could maybe this is redundant,

1120
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 2: but whatever, of all the options of all the things

1121
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 2: that I could do, which one by the end of

1122
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 2: me doing the work, will I have really built something?

1123
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 2: Is it you working on the business for longer or

1124
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 2: is it you writing the essays. I kind of think

1125
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 2: it's you working on the business more than it is

1126
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 2: you are writing the essays, right, I don't know because

1127
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 2: I haven't spoke. I I mean, go and talk to

1128
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 2: go find five people who graduated from your program and

1129
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 2: say hey, did you get a job because of this thing?

1130
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 2: And if they're all like, yes, you should do it.

1131
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 2: But I don't know what that guy in the lizard

1132
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 2: suit on the podcast is talking about. But you should

1133
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:21,439
Speaker 2: do it, then great, go with them. But I don't.

1134
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 2: I think you should ask yourself some more questions before

1135
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 2: you blindly say oh, well, this is how it's always worked.

1136
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 2: You get a degree and then you get a job,

1137
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 2: because we all fucking know that that's not that's not

1138
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: the world we live in in twenty twenty five. But

1139
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 2: I don't. But I don't think that. I don't think

1140
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 2: you're fucked, and I don't I don't think you're fucked,

1141
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 2: and b I think that there does exist opportunity for

1142
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 2: you somehow, some way to make money in an air

1143
01:05:54,640 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 2: conditioned room, right, and yeah, just and I again, I

1144
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: really commend you because what you're doing is so extremely hard.

1145
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 2: I think as long as you don't give up, maybe

1146
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 2: give up for a little bit. If you find yourself

1147
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 2: being like I can't tip into deserves this week, I

1148
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 2: can only do maintenance this week, that's okay.

1149
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 6: I find myself doing that more often than not.

1150
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, and that's okay, because you got your are

1151
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 2: you're you can't over exert yourself or else you'll fucking die.

1152
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just so burnt out.

1153
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure, And I'm sure. Yeah, I mean, listen, you

1154
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 2: could also take a couple of weeks and be like,

1155
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just fucking go at maintenance mode. It's a

1156
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 2: bare minimum I need to do to keep my children

1157
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 2: and me and my wife alive.

1158
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 6: And do that.

1159
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 2: If you need a break, if you need a break,

1160
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 2: and you do that for a couple of weeks, and

1161
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 2: then it'll be like, Okay, let's reassess, and now what

1162
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 2: do we do? But ask I don't. I wouldn't. Your

1163
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 2: time is super valuable you specifically because you have all

1164
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 2: this stuff on your plate. So just just really poking

1165
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 2: prod and pick at the thing you're doing with your

1166
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 2: with your energy reserves and make sure that it's got

1167
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 2: some legs to it.

1168
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, That's that's what I'm trying to do. That's like

1169
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 6: literally just a couple of days ago, like I was

1170
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 6: just like, Okay, I'm really going to do this business

1171
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:27,919
Speaker 6: because like I, like I said, I've been thinking about

1172
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 6: it for a while, but lately I have just got

1173
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 6: to the point where I'm so goddamn sick of doing

1174
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 6: my job, and like it's like every day I'm just miserable.

1175
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 6: You know, from like the minute I get there, I'm

1176
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 6: just sweating until the minute I get off and it

1177
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 6: you know, like today was like ninety eight degrees and

1178
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 6: I'm just like just pouring sweaty, and I do agree

1179
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 6: with you, like I think the business would do. Focusing

1180
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 6: on like building the business would probably be worthwhile, a

1181
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 6: little more worthwhile than just doing school. But at the

1182
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 6: same time, I've been in it for a year and

1183
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 6: another another thing that's been on my mind is if.

1184
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 2: I stop the sun cost fallacy.

1185
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 6: Well, just the thing if I if I drop out

1186
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 6: right now, hold on, hold on, You're fine, hold on, I'm.

1187
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 2: Talking about c J. I'm gonna I'm gonna let this

1188
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 2: be the last thing you say so that you can

1189
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 2: go hang out with your kid because I feel bad.

1190
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 2: I feel bad that you're neglecting your children to t

1191
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 2: have this phone call with.

1192
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 6: No, You're fine, they're just chilling. We're watching Monsters, inc.

1193
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 2: But okay, cool.

1194
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 6: What I was gonna say is another thing that's been

1195
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 6: on my mind is because I have been thinking about

1196
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 6: stopping doing school. But if I drop out, then I

1197
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 6: have to start paying the student debt, right.

1198
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 2: Dude, CJ. CJ, I don't know if you heard what

1199
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 2: you just said, But being like being like if I

1200
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 2: but yeah, but yeah, I mean I don't know, CJ. Like, Hm,

1201
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 2: I could go deeper into debt. But if I quit,

1202
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: I have to pay the Like what do you like

1203
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 2: that doesn't make any sense, man.

1204
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 6: No, No, it's just like right now, I'm looking out

1205
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 6: for us right now, because like I understand what you're

1206
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 6: saying one million percent, but like right now we're scraping by,

1207
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 6: Like you know, we could pay everything and we could

1208
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 6: get groceries, but we're left with so little at the

1209
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 6: very end of the month that if we had a

1210
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 6: bill on top of that, it's just like, could we

1211
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 6: really do it? You know what I mean? Like, like,

1212
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,520
Speaker 6: I get what you're saying. If I say that for another.

1213
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 2: Year, sure, but yeah, but I'm but like, yeah, but

1214
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 2: I'm I'm like, if I'm living in the like in

1215
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 2: the reality that you're putting forth for me right now,

1216
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 2: you have to you have to do that no matter what.

1217
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 2: And so and also if you keep going and you

1218
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 2: don't take the time to reassess, that bill gets bigger.

1219
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 4: Right.

1220
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 2: So I'm not I can't. I'm not gonna tell you

1221
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 2: what to do, but I just think that you should,

1222
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 2: you know, assess it and understand that, like a degree

1223
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 2: is not automatically gonna get you out of the rut.

1224
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 2: And maybe it will, I don't know. I don't know

1225
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 2: the program. I don't know these people, but you should

1226
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 2: have you at minimum, at minimum, at minimum, you should

1227
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 2: find like five other people who graduated from this program

1228
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 2: or faculty or whatever, and like really do some deep

1229
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 2: diving and and not like just take it at face value.

1230
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 2: And that's what That's what I would do before you

1231
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 2: drop out, is go find people who graduated and if

1232
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 2: they I don't know if you've done this already, but

1233
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 2: I would go talk to some people who were in

1234
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 2: your shoes and were in the degree, and if they

1235
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 2: and how they're because if you talk to those people

1236
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 2: and they're like, yeah, I got that degree and now

1237
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 2: I'm in more debt and I'm fucked because the job

1238
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 2: market's fucked, then you can cut your losses and and

1239
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, you have to pay the debt, but

1240
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 2: you have to pay the debt no matter what, because

1241
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 2: yet you enrolled. So if if now's the time to

1242
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 2: be like, all right, let's let's find out if now's

1243
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 2: the good time to cut our losses, and if it is,

1244
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 2: then great, and then you can and then you can

1245
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 2: be like, okay, great, we got out early, and yeah

1246
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 2: this is gonna suck for like a little bit. But

1247
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 2: now I can spend my extra reserve time working on

1248
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 2: this thing that is really gonna, you know, hopefully eventually

1249
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 2: grow to be my ticket to you know, not having

1250
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 2: to be fucking underwater. For now, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,

1251
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna, I'm gonna let you go. CJ. Is there

1252
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 2: is there anything else you want to say to the

1253
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 2: people of the computer before.

1254
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 6: We go, you know, just uh be nice and live

1255
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 6: your life to the fullest and be grateful for what

1256
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 6: you have. And also to you, Lyle. I liked that

1257
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 6: video that you put out about you going to Tijuana. Man,

1258
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 6: I thought I thought that was a cool video. I

1259
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 6: watched it on YouTube and me and my wife actually

1260
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 6: watched it, and she she every time we watch you

1261
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 6: and like, you're out of your suit, She's like, he

1262
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 6: looks so weird not being green. I just I think

1263
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 6: it's funny.

1264
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 2: But get used to be a lot more. I thank you.

1265
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 2: I appreciate that that. It's actually that's really nice here

1266
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 2: hearing from another human being that I've been working like

1267
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 2: crazy NonStop on making that video, so I appreciate hearing

1268
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 2: another real human being that enjoyed it.

1269
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I look forward to what you're gonna put out.

1270
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 6: Like I've been listening to you for a long time,

1271
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 6: and I watch your YouTube, Like I'll listen to your

1272
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 6: in real your like real life where you're in like

1273
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 6: the park or whatever, and then I'll also watch the

1274
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 6: video because I'm curious to see what these people look

1275
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 6: like like, you know. So yeah, man, I just appreciate you.

1276
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,600
Speaker 6: I listened to you at work all the time, and like,

1277
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 6: even when I'm having this shitty day, I know it's

1278
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 6: like I know, I just put I just put you

1279
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,600
Speaker 6: in my ear and I'm just like I just like

1280
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 6: kind of zone out and I don't know you You're

1281
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 6: doing God's work.

1282
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 3: Man.

1283
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 6: I appreciate it.

1284
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, and I commend you for working

1285
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 2: really hard to you know, uh, maintain the sanctity of

1286
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 2: your children's life and your life and I and I

1287
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 2: I hope that you figure it out and I hope

1288
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,560
Speaker 2: you make you know, whatever decisions right for you.

1289
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I appreciate it. Maybe one of these days, when I,

1290
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 6: you know, do get a business and I have some money, maybe, uh,

1291
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 6: I'll go to New York and catch you. And what

1292
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 6: is it called Washington Square Park?

1293
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 2: Is that where you go yeah, yeah, yeah, come hang.

1294
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 2: If that does happen, I'll be like I would like that.

1295
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 2: I'll be like that's crazy. If that does happen, I

1296
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 2: will be like, damn, that's crazy.

1297
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, me too, honestly. But all right, man, we'll have

1298
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 6: a good day and uh yeah, as you say, I'll

1299
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 6: see you around the universe.

1300
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 2: Take care, CJ.

1301
01:13:59,479 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 6: You too.

1302
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 2: I do say that a lot. I say i'll see

1303
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 2: you around the you. I say that in my real

1304
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 2: I don't. That's not even like a show caller sign off.

1305
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 2: I just say that now. Anytime I say that, after

1306
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,799
Speaker 2: like a date, i'd like, see you around the universe.

1307
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 6: They're like what.

1308
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 2: I say, see you around the universe? And I say,

1309
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 2: what's up, gangsters? That's what I that's how I enter.

1310
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 2: I enter with what's up gangsters? I exit with see

1311
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 2: you around the universe. I don't I now, I just

1312
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 2: I just do it to I don't know. I think

1313
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 2: if you're if I think if you intentionally say something weird,

1314
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 2: it makes it makes things feel less awkward, right, because

1315
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 2: if I if I intentionally say something that sounds normal,

1316
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: I just know it'll come out weird. So I'll just

1317
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 2: start with something weird. I like that guy, Ceja. He's

1318
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 2: really exerting himself. It's hard. Don't have a fourth kid,

1319
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 2: if you That's my main advice to you, CJ, is

1320
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 2: to not have a fourth kid if you can. If

1321
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 2: you can hear me still, thanks for calling, CJ. Hi. Hello,

1322
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 2: what's your name?

1323
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 4: Hi?

1324
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 3: Jenna?

1325
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 2: Jenna?

1326
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 6: What's up?

1327
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 2: Jenna? How's life?

1328
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm talking to you right now? Life

1329
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 3: is good? How's life for you?

1330
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 2: In this very moment? Life is good? In this very moment,

1331
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 2: life is good. I'm enjoying. I'm enjoying doing this today.

1332
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 2: I feel I feel in a nice flow state. I mean,

1333
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 2: life in generals is kind of crazy, but I don't

1334
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 2: know if it's ever supposed to not be. I don't

1335
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 2: know if the time time never stands still and you

1336
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 2: can probably waste a lot of it waiting for it too.

1337
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 3: Hi, I totally I totally agree.

1338
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 2: What's up, Jenna? Would you want to talk about today?

1339
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 2: If anything? We can also just talk about nothing. Well.

1340
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 3: I've been thinking about if I ever got on the

1341
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 3: phone with you, I would tell you about the time

1342
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 3: that I saw you at Electric Forest. So I didn't

1343
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 3: actually get the chance to see your set. Because of

1344
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 3: the group of people I was with, we were just

1345
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 3: on a whole other journey in that moment. But I

1346
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 3: had made you a bracelet, like before I even left

1347
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 3: Pennsylvania to go to Michigan for Electric Forest. I was like,

1348
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 3: if I see Lyle, I want to be able to

1349
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 3: give him this bracelet. And I was walking through the

1350
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 3: forest and I could see you didn't have your gecko

1351
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 3: costume on, but I could see the paint on your

1352
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 3: hands and legs. And I was with my friends and

1353
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 3: I could see that you had like an artist's bracelet

1354
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 3: on too, and I was like behind you, and I

1355
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 3: was like, guys, I think that's a therapy gecko. And

1356
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 3: I was like, I have to make a run for it.

1357
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 3: So I like bolted over to you and I stopped

1358
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 3: you and I said I barely even said hello. I

1359
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 3: said hi, can I give you something? And you were

1360
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 3: so kind and you said, of course, like what's your name?

1361
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 3: And I told you my name, and I did the

1362
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 3: little like peace, love, unity and rect like a handshake. Yes,

1363
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 3: we plurred, and I gave you the bracelet and I

1364
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 3: think it's just a therapy gecko on it. But I

1365
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 3: was just like on a off chance that is so

1366
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 3: like heartfelt and it was like such a big moment

1367
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 3: for me. And then I went back to over to

1368
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 3: my friends and she got a video of it, and

1369
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 3: I was like, thank you so much, like it was

1370
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 3: it like made my day so and it made my

1371
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 3: whole weekend. I was like talking about it forever.

1372
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 2: So that's so nice. That's so nice.

1373
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:04,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know I probably have it.

1374
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 3: I would love if you still have it, that would

1375
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 3: be amazing. I am also wondering how your experience was there,

1376
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 3: Like how did you How did you like the forest?

1377
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite places, like to be honestly ever,

1378
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 3: like I love going there every year, and I was wondering,

1379
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 3: like how you liked it?

1380
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I have a I have a thing

1381
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 2: and I've always had this my entire life where I

1382
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,560
Speaker 2: I feel like I always have to I always have

1383
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 2: to be like working in some way, shape or form,

1384
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 2: and I I like, I need my This is a

1385
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 2: good thing. It's not a bad thing. But and it's

1386
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 2: like if I'm going to go on like a big

1387
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 2: trip or do a crazy thing or go to a

1388
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 2: festival or whatever, like uh, and if I'm if I'm

1389
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 2: doing that and I'm working. That's the best. That's the

1390
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 2: best I ever feel. And so was so like when

1391
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 2: I did when I did my little festival run where

1392
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 2: I was doing like bon Aru and Coachella and Electric

1393
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: Forest and I got to do the shows and also

1394
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: like hang out afterwards. It was fucking awesome. I don't

1395
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 2: know if I would go back just to just a vibe.

1396
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 2: I'm not like I mean maybe, I mean, certainly, if

1397
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 2: I got invited back to like ever do something, that

1398
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 2: would be cool. But even if I only got to

1399
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 2: do it, that would be amazing. But it was great.

1400
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I love the music festivals. I love you know,

1401
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 2: I love the vibes there. Maybe I would go to

1402
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 2: another music festival just to vibe if I had, you know,

1403
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 2: I had like a reason to go or something like that.

1404
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 2: But you know, I mean, I love I love ecstasy.

1405
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 2: I haven't done it in like three fucking years. But

1406
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 2: it's fun.

1407
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 3: Me too. That's one of my favorite parts is to

1408
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 3: just kind of be able to be out in the

1409
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:59,719
Speaker 3: woods exploring and not worrying about like any of my problems.

1410
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know if I'll ever

1411
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 2: go back to Electric Forest, but I mean, yeah, I

1412
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 2: had a fucking great time.

1413
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 3: Well that's amazing. And I know you've been doing a

1414
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 3: lot of traveling lately, so it's been awesome to see

1415
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 3: all of your like recent endeavors. You're you've been exploring

1416
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 3: a lot of the different things, and it's really cool

1417
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 3: to see.

1418
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. Yeah, I haven't been doing I've

1419
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 2: been doing as much this year as as the past.

1420
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 2: But I'm I'm I'm hankering for it. I don't know

1421
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 2: where I'm gonna go next, but actually I do know.

1422
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to the Gathering of the Juggalos. Yeah,

1423
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 2: the Gathering of the Juggalos. That'll be my next festival.

1424
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 3: That is badass. You are very excited, such a good time.

1425
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 2: I'm very excited for the Gathering of the Juggalos. I

1426
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 2: don't know what I'm gonna make yet. I don't I'm

1427
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 2: either gonna make I was thinking about making something more

1428
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 2: along the lines of that Tijuana video where I'm like,

1429
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of like trying to edit for

1430
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 2: story or just like doing on the Street podcast or

1431
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 2: both or one or I don't. I don't know yet,

1432
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna make something there. But that was fun. Yeah,

1433
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to go.

1434
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see it.

1435
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,799
Speaker 6: What is your name again, Jenna?

1436
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 2: Jenna? Well, shit, Jenna, I don't want this to all

1437
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 2: be about me. What's going on with you?

1438
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 3: Another thing I've always wanted to tell you about is

1439
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 3: I play roller Derby. It's a pretty cool like hobby

1440
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:35,799
Speaker 3: to have as like someone in their mid twenties.

1441
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 2: You say, mid twenties is if you're like a grandmother.

1442
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 3: Well, I guess in late twenties. Now. I'm twenty eight now,

1443
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 3: so I just turned on the eight this summer. So yeah,

1444
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 3: I don't feel like a grandma, but sometimes after a

1445
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 3: weekend of roller Derby, I do.

1446
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 2: How do you feel about being twenty eight? I don't

1447
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 2: know why. I'm like, I felt it's very young my

1448
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 2: entire life. But this year I've just started to be like, oh, yeah,

1449
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 2: none of this is forever. It's I don't want this

1450
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 2: whole episode. I feel like I've been able to avoid

1451
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 2: getting into nihilism. So but when I else talk.

1452
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 3: About it, yeah, let's talk about it. It's it's very

1453
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:20,640
Speaker 3: daunting to be twenty eight. I'm like, you know, supposedly

1454
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 3: a full blown adult, you know, from like a societal

1455
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 3: point of view, but I don't know, I still feel

1456
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 3: like a kid most of the time.

1457
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 2: It's cool though, because, like I mean, you go to

1458
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 2: a place like Electric Forest, and I have to you,

1459
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:36,520
Speaker 2: you do encounter a lot of like, you know, motherfuckers

1460
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 2: in their thirties hanging out and doing drugs.

1461
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 3: It's awesome. It's like you see adult kids everywhere, like

1462
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 3: having the best time. Everyone's face is lighting up at

1463
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 3: everything they're seeing, and like all of the crazy characters

1464
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 3: that like float around the forest just to entertain people.

1465
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 3: Like the way that they organize that festival is very like,

1466
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,679
Speaker 3: come play in the forest, everybody.

1467
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 2: I think my buddy sax Squatch just did just did

1468
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 2: a set there in the Honeycomb where.

1469
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know the sack Squatch. That's pretty sick.

1470
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 2: He's the man. He's the man.

1471
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 3: You were at the Honeycomb too, right, I was at

1472
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 3: the Honeycomb. Nice, it's iconic.

1473
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 2: Let's see, Jenna, you said your name was right?

1474
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1475
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 3: Good memory?

1476
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 4: Uh?

1477
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 2: Roller Derby?

1478
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 6: Tell me what do we do not have to.

1479
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 3: Talk about Roller Derby? What do we need to talk

1480
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:37,560
Speaker 3: about it?

1481
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: What do we mean interesting?

1482
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 2: What do we need to know about Roller derby.

1483
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 3: Well, it's a super high contact sport, but at the

1484
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 3: same time, it's like you're out there just hitting your friends,

1485
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 3: and when the whistle blows and the gem is over,

1486
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 3: you like pick your friend up and like give him

1487
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 3: a high five. Like it's all in the like love

1488
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:05,440
Speaker 3: the game. Like it's not like super like scary competitive,

1489
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 3: if that makes sense, Like you just kind of enjoy

1490
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 3: hitting each other.

1491
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, when you say that it's a

1492
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 2: high contact sport, is it not, You're like you're shoving

1493
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 2: each other around, right.

1494
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 3: Oh for sure.

1495
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what what's the is what's the goal? Is

1496
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 2: the goal of it to like beat the shit out

1497
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 2: of each other?

1498
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 3: Well not necessarily, so, like the goal is to each

1499
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 3: player has a jammer quote unquote, and that's the player

1500
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 3: that has the star on their helmet. So if you've

1501
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 3: ever seen like pictures of roller derby or something, or

1502
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 3: like a video of it, there's like a player that

1503
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 3: has a star on their helmet, and their goal is

1504
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 3: to like gain points by passing players on the other team.

1505
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 6: So each player that.

1506
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 3: They pass counts as a point, but those players are

1507
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 3: like actively trying to stop you from passing them, So

1508
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 3: It's kind of like it's kind of like football on

1509
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 3: skates without a ball or end zone, if that make sense.

1510
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 3: Like like there's no race, Like sometimes people think you're

1511
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 3: racing around the track. It's not necessarily a race. It's

1512
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 3: like each time you go around the track is another

1513
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 3: opportunity to get more points or to like stop the

1514
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 3: other jammer from getting points, if that make sense.

1515
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 2: It does make sense. That does make sense.

1516
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 3: It's a lot of like camaraderie and like team bonding,

1517
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 3: like we'll you know, have a beer after a game,

1518
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 3: and like we have lots of parties and stuff. It's

1519
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 3: just like a cool, fun way to like socialize when

1520
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 3: like you don't have like college anymore.

1521
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 2: Yeah that we talked to a guy about dodgeball on

1522
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 2: the show a while ago, and.

1523
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:49,839
Speaker 3: He has any recreational I encourage. I always encourage.

1524
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1525
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 2: I think that's it's important to have something after like

1526
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 2: high school and college that gets you in and around

1527
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 2: other people in some way shape or for him, you know, absolutely.

1528
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 3: And roller Derby is also fun because people have like

1529
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 3: names like that are not their real name.

1530
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your Derby name?

1531
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 1: Rhythm and Bruise, that's.

1532
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,600
Speaker 3: It's like a pun. A lot of people have like

1533
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 3: many words in their name. It's not abnormal. So rhythm

1534
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,560
Speaker 3: and bruise, Like I used to be a dancer. I

1535
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 3: guess I kind of still am, but like I used

1536
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 3: to be a competitive dancer, and I wanted to kind

1537
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 3: of like tie that into my derby name somehow, but

1538
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 3: also make it like a.

1539
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 2: Pun rhythm and brew.

1540
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 3: Bruise, like like if you got hit and you had

1541
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 3: a mark on your arm, like rhythm and bruise.

1542
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 2: Ah, okay, that makes sense. Huh uh huh, Yes, Jenna,

1543
01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 2: you're still there.

1544
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 3: I'm still here. I just didn't know if you were

1545
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 3: going to say something else.

1546
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like I do have that bracelet I

1547
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 2: have like a I keep. I keep all the stuff.

1548
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:12,719
Speaker 3: I was wondering that that probably get a lot.

1549
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 2: Of stuff I'm lucky, lucky enough to get. I'm in

1550
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 2: a room with a bunch of stuff, but I keep

1551
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 2: all keep a lot of it in like a big drawer.

1552
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 2: Like the small stuff like little bracelets and chatchki's, I

1553
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 2: keep it all in a like a big drawer of stuff.

1554
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 2: I'm not good at decorating, like I had, I'm not

1555
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 2: good at decorating. Thank you, I'm not good at decorating,

1556
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 2: but I have I have some stuff up, but I'm

1557
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 2: I try to keep keep my life simple, I guess.

1558
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 2: But Jenna, thanks for go go ahead.

1559
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, I like the thought of

1560
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 3: my little bracelet being in a drawer with like other

1561
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 3: people's things that they like put a lot of thought

1562
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 3: into for you like it. It's a nice thought.

1563
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 2: Your bracelet is likely to drawer with a bag of

1564
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:04,679
Speaker 2: somebody's hair that they gave me back in twenty twelve.

1565
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 3: Okay, that's even better.

1566
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 2: That's even better, Jenna, is there anything else you want

1567
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 2: to say to the people of the computer before we go?

1568
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 3: If you're thinking about joining a recreational group, hobby, activity, sport,

1569
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 3: this is your sign.

1570
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 2: Beautiful. Oh hey, wait, what's your favorite Derby movie? I

1571
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 2: feel like there's a lot of them.

1572
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 3: I'm blanking because I'm really nervous on the phone with you.

1573
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 2: There's one with I felt there's multiple.

1574
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 3: I literally just watched one.

1575
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 2: Maybe there's only one.

1576
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 3: I think there might be only one, like super famous one,

1577
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 3: and I literally just watched it and I can't remember

1578
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,759
Speaker 3: the name of it, so I'm sorry.

1579
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 2: It's someone put it in the comments someone put it

1580
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 2: in the common Yeah, someone please put.

1581
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 3: It in the chat. I'm sorry and my brain is

1582
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:06,759
Speaker 3: like blank.

1583
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 2: Take care of Jennet.

1584
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:11,799
Speaker 3: You two lyle, have a good rest of your stream.

1585
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 2: Bye bye bye. Wait, I have it. I have a computer.

1586
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 2: I'll just look it up. Uh oh, whip it, whip it.

1587
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 2: I feel like there's more? Is that the one?

1588
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 6: Is there?

1589
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 2: Only one of them? Jimmy Fallon is in this? What

1590
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 2: the hell is Jimmy Fallon doing in this? How old

1591
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,560
Speaker 2: is Jimmy Fallon? He's fifty. Now this is a stupid Wikipedia.

1592
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 2: It just it just they just know how to They

1593
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 2: just know. You know, what's funny is like Meta and

1594
01:29:53,920 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 2: YouTube and Google whatever, like all these tech companies. They

1595
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 2: spend all this time trying to figure out the science

1596
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 2: of how to get us like addicted to their apps

1597
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 2: and whatnot, and they're always changing and they then they're

1598
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 2: you know, their public companies, and they put research into

1599
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 2: it and whatnot. But Wikipedia does the same thing and

1600
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 2: all they do is make stuff. Blue shout out to Wikipedia.

1601
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 2: Rep Kid goes on the line taking your phone calls

1602
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 2: every night. There bec goes to what his 's teaching you.

1603
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 2: Cloud in the mean of your life. But he's not

1604
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:34,799
Speaker 2: really an expert