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Speaker 1: Layton Vendorretta. He's Hanging with the Boys, broadcasting live from
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Now
Speaker 1: your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and Shannon Gross. Monday,
Speaker 1: and what a Monday. It is so many things to
Speaker 1: get to. I wish we had two hours to do
Speaker 1: this show we have yeah today, I mean we've been
Speaker 1: struggling for things to talk about and now we have
Speaker 1: draft things, Jason Witten things, Bye bye, Ryan Switzer, Hello,
Speaker 1: Tavee on Austin. So many things to get to, men,
Speaker 1: But to get us started? What was that? Kurt? So much?
Speaker 1: What you look at? What you're looking at in that
Speaker 1: Twitter feed? Uh huh m hmmm. All right, what's up fellas?
Speaker 1: How are you alright? Are you doing great? Oh? All right, Nate,
Speaker 1: I'm good. I didn't like that offensive tackle from Texas.
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, um, oh, here we go. This
Speaker 1: is he's gonna he's getting into pre No no, no, no,
Speaker 1: brother Oxnard moved. We're not gonna waste any of your time.
Speaker 1: I hope. I'm gonna waiting on him to say, Hey,
Speaker 1: we got brought is here. The draft has been completed. Hey,
Speaker 1: we got brought us here completed. Let's get I mean,
Speaker 1: all the guessing is overWe let's go to it. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. Brought us. I appreciate, I just got
Speaker 1: I just got done with the show. I appreciate the
Speaker 1: like the two minutes of me not having to talk, said,
Speaker 1: he catch his breath, all right, brought us here? Who
Speaker 1: is this guy? Let's let's do this. Gonna take Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know what you talk about. Who is this? Explain?
Speaker 1: Let's do this. Brought us. We only have you for
Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes. Sure, so let's hit all these guys
Speaker 1: and you give us what we're getting with these players.
Speaker 1: And then let's get the two guys we got in
Speaker 1: trades and tell us what we can expect out of
Speaker 1: him because we don't have you for long. But kick
Speaker 1: it off with kick it off with our first guy, Vanderish.
Speaker 1: What are we getting there, Well, you're getting a guy
Speaker 1: that could play all three positions. Though he's a guy.
Speaker 1: He's got the size, he's got the speed, he's got
Speaker 1: the ability though to make plays on the outside, where
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a little bit of a problem. I
Speaker 1: think for him it's he's gonna have to learn how
Speaker 1: to play a little bit more physical with his hands
Speaker 1: at the point of attack. But you're talking about a
Speaker 1: guy that can run, hit, finish. He watched the Oregon game.
Speaker 1: He avoids a lot of blocks. He makes plays in
Speaker 1: the hole. You get a guy that's really good in coverage.
Speaker 1: I think that's where he's really gonna shine here. Initially, though,
Speaker 1: He's got a feel for how to play and drop
Speaker 1: and then react to the football. So really a smart
Speaker 1: aware player in that regard. Again, he could play all
Speaker 1: three spots. I have a feeling he's gonna play Mike.
Speaker 1: They're gonna probably do something with Jalen Smith. We'll see
Speaker 1: how that all plays out. Any concerns with his health, No, Actually,
Speaker 1: the everybody kind of was a scare. They're talking about
Speaker 1: his neck and the things that were going on. When
Speaker 1: they are talked to some doctors here and talk to
Speaker 1: some trainers here, everybody was okay on that, So there
Speaker 1: should be no problem with with the health. That's why
Speaker 1: they were able to take him. This is a guy
Speaker 1: they targeted all along that they were going to take
Speaker 1: as a team that needs linebackers. He's what he fits
Speaker 1: what they want to do defensively. Now he hasn't played.
Speaker 1: He hasn't played eleven on eleven football for very long.
Speaker 1: Is he a project guy? No? No? Ready? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you watched Boyse football. He's he's out now again, he hasn't.
Speaker 1: He's not one of these guys that's a four year
Speaker 1: starter at Boise and all that. I mean, don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong about that. He's his software year. He was
Speaker 1: playing quite a bit. He got he got hurt, and
Speaker 1: then then he took off a little bit of his
Speaker 1: senior year though, but he's always around the football. The
Speaker 1: pick for me was I liked Evans from Alabama a
Speaker 1: little bit better because I thought he was a little
Speaker 1: bit more of a physical player. But I have no
Speaker 1: problem with Layton vander Esh for what they're gonna try
Speaker 1: and do with him. I think he's a really good
Speaker 1: fit for for this football team. Okay, do you have
Speaker 1: any doubts about them not taking a receiver in that
Speaker 1: I knew they were taking Vanderesh the whole time. I
Speaker 1: never thought they were going to take her. I mean,
Speaker 1: to me, we always talked about on the Draft show. Okay,
Speaker 1: they're gonna take a you know, oh Dez has gone,
Speaker 1: They're gonna take a receiver. They have to take a receiver.
Speaker 1: The receiver they got Michael Gallup and will get to him.
Speaker 1: You know, I have a side of second round grade
Speaker 1: on him. That just showed you the depth of the position.
Speaker 1: There were more wide receivers than there were linebackers. They
Speaker 1: got a second round receiver at pick eighty one, and
Speaker 1: so on my board, and I'm sure on their board
Speaker 1: he was probably in the same spot. So uh, you
Speaker 1: know that that the fact that they were going to
Speaker 1: pick a receiver at nineteen, I just didn't feel like
Speaker 1: that that was it. You know, more was more was available,
Speaker 1: and then also to Ridley was available. But I just
Speaker 1: didn't feel like vander esh was their guy the whole time.
Speaker 1: And I thought about it the night before the draft,
Speaker 1: and I thought about it like Darwin James, and I
Speaker 1: came to conclusion by that morning, Yeah, like they ain't
Speaker 1: taking this guy. Yeah, they fall to him. And so
Speaker 1: I'm like, somebody else is in the mix because I
Speaker 1: just wasn't fitting him because all of the research I'd
Speaker 1: done on him. So the safety thing, but even a factor.
Speaker 1: He well, we were on the Draft show. We had
Speaker 1: talked about this a bunch leading up to the draft
Speaker 1: that my scout buddies around the league, not the Cowboys
Speaker 1: scout guys, but the scouts around the league were telling
Speaker 1: me that Derwin James was going to drop and you
Speaker 1: know that he that there were some concerns about him
Speaker 1: as a player, and so you know, we were trying
Speaker 1: to prepare people in the Draft show the potentially when
Speaker 1: he went to when he went to the Chargers, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys didn't flinch in the war room. You could see
Speaker 1: and they and they weren't interested in moving up. They
Speaker 1: were going to see what was happening. They respect the player.
Speaker 1: But I believe all along that that Layton Vander he
Speaker 1: was the man. Even when Green they moved up, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't flinch. I mean they said they got a litzit,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that was his guy. Can you see how
Speaker 1: different it was when they walked to the podium, thissue
Speaker 1: for this guy, How they spoke, They just as a team.
Speaker 1: The energy was there versus last year when they walked
Speaker 1: to the podium. Yeah, well, hopefully Tacco will be better,
Speaker 1: Hopefully will be but Cat and those guys will get
Speaker 1: him playing. And I felt the fact that towards the
Speaker 1: end of year he was playing better. But you're right,
Speaker 1: the energy for vander Esh, I think was different. I
Speaker 1: think initially some people that the media scouts didn't catch
Speaker 1: up until later on about really, how you know this
Speaker 1: guy's a good football player. I mean, but again, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to you if he gets in trouble, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be taken on guys like you and not doing
Speaker 1: it well enough with his hands. Once he does, once
Speaker 1: he learns how to do that, this guy can run,
Speaker 1: he can hit, he could finish, you know, just worry
Speaker 1: about him physically at the point of attack a little bit.
Speaker 1: That's why I woke up and I said, I didn't
Speaker 1: Dert and James do. But I showed woke up saying,
Speaker 1: and I knew that was going hi pain and veil. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if we can just get one of the whole stools. Yeah,
Speaker 1: depression will be taken off on linebacks. But hey, let's
Speaker 1: move on bright. Yeah, I think that you know, and
Speaker 1: too now I had if you look at my top fifty,
Speaker 1: like I said, three of the three of their picks
Speaker 1: were top fifty guys. For me, I love this next pick.
Speaker 1: I love that Connor Williams. To me, I had Connor
Speaker 1: Williams on my top fifty above Layton vander Esh Wow.
Speaker 1: So to me, here at fifty, you get the opportunity.
Speaker 1: This guy plays lined up as a left tackle. I
Speaker 1: had seen his kid play at Coppelle. I used to
Speaker 1: do the games on Friday nights for four years. The
Speaker 1: senior year I got to see him play and he
Speaker 1: was an outstanding high school player. So he goes to
Speaker 1: Texas and you know, there's people that say that if
Speaker 1: he would have come out of the draft last year,
Speaker 1: then he would have been a guy that would have
Speaker 1: gone very high in the draft. So went back Texas,
Speaker 1: came in the draft this year. People were talking about him,
Speaker 1: and he got got nicked up in the USC game.
Speaker 1: They fill in the back of his leg and he
Speaker 1: was done, and his tape wasn't as good. But I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. You watch this guy work out, you
Speaker 1: watch the tape. This guy is an athlete. He got
Speaker 1: a mainstreak. He is a finisher. I mean, he keeps
Speaker 1: his hands, his feet, everything works really well together. He
Speaker 1: doesn't appear to be rushed or hurried when he's blocking.
Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't panic when he blocks. Everything is
Speaker 1: really really smooth. I mean, he could be a force
Speaker 1: when you down blocked with this guy. He could seal
Speaker 1: that edge. He can bounce up to the second level.
Speaker 1: He plays on his feet, he gets movement very easily.
Speaker 1: He can reach block. There's teams that worked him out.
Speaker 1: I was at the Pro day in Austin. They worked
Speaker 1: him out as a center. They worked him out as
Speaker 1: a guard. I think he's gonna play guard here. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna start at left guard. Here. You're talking
Speaker 1: about two athletes on the left side of that offensive
Speaker 1: line with him and Tyrn Smith. That will cause problems
Speaker 1: for people because it's gonna be like one guy. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be two guys playing his one. When they scoop block,
Speaker 1: reach block. You know, you're not gonna have to worry
Speaker 1: about Connor Williams like falling on the backside. You know,
Speaker 1: Ron Larry was out a little bit early in his
Speaker 1: career until he slimmed down his body and then he
Speaker 1: got to where he was a little bit more athletic.
Speaker 1: And this team really ran the ball better because of Zeke.
Speaker 1: But they ran the ball better. When when when when
Speaker 1: ron Le swimmed down and then they could get guys
Speaker 1: up on the second level. We saw this guy. We
Speaker 1: we actually brought him in here on here. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys doing that. He's he's very tyring smith.
Speaker 1: There's no look at on him and fat, and he's chiseled.
Speaker 1: He's not a sloppy and he's what six four six
Speaker 1: four six four and a half. Yeah, so yeah, he's
Speaker 1: over three yeah, over three hundred pounds muscle. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. You know, I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: waiting on his picket. You know we used to work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sitting there and I'm and uh and thereby was some
Speaker 1: iOS see this in and I ain't know what it
Speaker 1: was going. Yeah, you know, because they had let a
Speaker 1: lot of a few guys drop off the board. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know set and all of these guys don't. And
Speaker 1: when they said come, I scream, man, I was like,
Speaker 1: you watch this guy too, right, But no, I just
Speaker 1: heard great things about him. He's a worker. He's a worker.
Speaker 1: But what what amazed me is now my mind going
Speaker 1: to the mode of we have a potential starter that
Speaker 1: we got depth across the board again. Right, So if
Speaker 1: we have injury to any one of our guys, we
Speaker 1: are covered. Yeah. Should Yeah, those guys will help. We
Speaker 1: should be covered. Man, And Alexander is supposed to be
Speaker 1: that type of coach where he can make great adjustments
Speaker 1: within the offensive line. We wow. Yeah. The next one
Speaker 1: is Michael Gallop. This is the one I liked again.
Speaker 1: This is another one of my guys in the top fifty.
Speaker 1: And I've been looking for a receiver that can separate,
Speaker 1: and this guy can separate. That's the whole idea with
Speaker 1: this guy. I mean, I think that he's going to
Speaker 1: challenge Terrence Williams for his spot. I think that you
Speaker 1: need to find a way to like throw him out there.
Speaker 1: Gonna be as many reps as possible learn how to
Speaker 1: beat press. But this guy, he's a hands catcher. He
Speaker 1: can he can make contested plays. He'll sit down for
Speaker 1: the ball. He's good with the ball in his hands.
Speaker 1: He'll adjust. I mean, he can run deeper routes. He
Speaker 1: can push, he pushes off to get space. He can
Speaker 1: drive off the line. I mean there's a lot of things.
Speaker 1: He'll run through double teams. I mean, he's he's not
Speaker 1: afraid to go inside to catch the ball. I like
Speaker 1: this guy a lot because I think at the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, he's physical, he knows how to get space.
Speaker 1: But once he gets in route, he can you see
Speaker 1: that burst to separate. And I don't think this team
Speaker 1: had enough of those guys. I think that hurt them
Speaker 1: a little bit last year because teams were covering and
Speaker 1: it was making press Scott have to make a lot
Speaker 1: of tight throws. And so this guy right here, though,
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna press Terrence Williams for his job.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt a chance to start. Absolutely. Does he
Speaker 1: remind you real quick? Nay? Who does he remind you
Speaker 1: of that's currently in the NFL type of body or yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's six he's right at six foot, he's two
Speaker 1: hundred pounds. I'm trying to think of a projection because
Speaker 1: there's guys that I've kind of thought about that, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I was thinking about with Ridley.
Speaker 1: He looked like Marvin Harrison to me. I have to
Speaker 1: give that one a little bit of a thought, though.
Speaker 1: I don't know hester think is somebody that separates down
Speaker 1: the field, though, but it's physical down the field, and
Speaker 1: that's that's the kind of the guy. I'll have to
Speaker 1: come up with one on channel. I don't have a
Speaker 1: comparison in my head right now because I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: about a lot of different guys that are route runners.
Speaker 1: But this team needed a route runner, and that's what
Speaker 1: this guy can do. Do you have that in the book,
Speaker 1: did Dane? Did Dane give us a comparison to who
Speaker 1: he might be. Dane's really good about the comparison stuff
Speaker 1: like that Pierre Garth song, he's a faster Pire Garwth song.
Speaker 1: I'll take that. What I've heard him. What I've heard
Speaker 1: is I would have thought, but don't even look at
Speaker 1: his forty like Pierre Grason, you don't look at his forty.
Speaker 1: He runs. He be good route runner. Yep. And so
Speaker 1: when they got this guy and I didn't know nothing
Speaker 1: about him, I just just went to diving in read
Speaker 1: and trying to and nobody says anything bad. No, nobody
Speaker 1: says anything bad. No. He you know, he played some
Speaker 1: games like you can watch him play against some good competition,
Speaker 1: Colorado and Alabama, and they've got a couple of both
Speaker 1: those teams had pretty good corners. And you see him
Speaker 1: have some success against those guys. So it always gives
Speaker 1: me hope when a guy has a receiver has some
Speaker 1: success against some teams that you know have pretty good cornerbacks,
Speaker 1: pretty good defensive secondaries. How about our defensive end we
Speaker 1: drafted with the fourth pick. Yeah, I loving him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you know a lot about him? Date? No, No,
Speaker 1: I don't. You don't know any about him? And broughtest.
Speaker 1: This is wrong for me to say, but the way
Speaker 1: he's built in a little bit of film I've seen,
Speaker 1: he looks like to me a defensive end. He is
Speaker 1: a defensive end. I mean yeah, I'm telling you he
Speaker 1: looks like he got he lucky slippery man. This guy
Speaker 1: plays a lot of violence to him. I'll say, he
Speaker 1: does a great job of finding the ball. And I'm
Speaker 1: looking through my notes again. He plays really well on
Speaker 1: the move. He stays active, you know, he worked through
Speaker 1: the trash. Has to be careful not to get too
Speaker 1: wide because times you see him get real wide and
Speaker 1: they come up the field and not be able to
Speaker 1: get back to the quarterback. And he plays a little
Speaker 1: bit tighter. He can get the edge. He's got the
Speaker 1: speed to get there, and he's got the speed to
Speaker 1: turn it. So he's very physical for his size. He's
Speaker 1: a good wrap up tackle. He can really close from
Speaker 1: the back side. There are times you see the ball
Speaker 1: go away and he's screaming from the back side to
Speaker 1: get there. They tried to trade up for this kid
Speaker 1: at the end of the third round. We all thought
Speaker 1: they were trying to go for more of the various
Speaker 1: more of the safety from Southern miss Nah, it was
Speaker 1: Dorance Armstrong. They were trying to go get and so
Speaker 1: that tells you a lot about him that they thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: we need to get back in the round. They were
Speaker 1: worried about him. And it's kind of funny. I think
Speaker 1: the governor of Texas, Governor Abbott, said, nah, not stay,
Speaker 1: just stay, and you know, Jerry asked him jokingly. Abbott said, no, stay,
Speaker 1: this guy will be there. We'll get him. And Governor
Speaker 1: Abbott was bringing him in every year. But but you
Speaker 1: can move, to Scott, you can move this guy. It's
Speaker 1: just that he was having a joke. He was having fun.
Speaker 1: But you can move this guy around the rush and
Speaker 1: I like that about him. But he could really change directions,
Speaker 1: can break a blocker down, and he has a burst
Speaker 1: and I think those are all really good things. I
Speaker 1: think you'll see that Nate's right. Physically, he looks like
Speaker 1: a defensive end. And I could see somebody man waiting.
Speaker 1: I remember d W D wear, I remember where came
Speaker 1: in him. Man. I was like, what would you please
Speaker 1: say on my outside album? Yeah, And I said, wow,
Speaker 1: when he grows up, when he grows into a manhood, yeah,
Speaker 1: he can be something special. And I just pray we
Speaker 1: don't get him and go to saying, okay, let's put
Speaker 1: him over there. Lef decons the man. Let's put him
Speaker 1: on the right right and let him go. He was
Speaker 1: one of your pet cats in the magazine. He was.
Speaker 1: He was absolutely cats. Yeah, I'm a big fan of
Speaker 1: this guy because again, the violence that he plays with
Speaker 1: and the speed that which he plays with. I love
Speaker 1: the burst about him. So I thought that was a
Speaker 1: really really good pick. And you're talking about fourth round
Speaker 1: at one sixteen. I think there's people that had him
Speaker 1: a lot higher on their board, and I think that's
Speaker 1: why the Cowboys were worried about trading up for him
Speaker 1: late in the third. They didn't want that player to
Speaker 1: go away. Very cool, And next tight end is this
Speaker 1: is this a because of Jason Witten possibly. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think this is a guy that's really a true in
Speaker 1: line player, and I mean in line. He lines up
Speaker 1: as a y on the line of scrimmage. You know.
Speaker 1: Stanford is known for their physicality, which they play with
Speaker 1: their offensive line. David Shaw, the coach there, is really
Speaker 1: a he's a hardball disciple. They like to run the football,
Speaker 1: they like to be physical. They use a lot of
Speaker 1: offensive linemen in their scheme. But this Dalton Schultz is
Speaker 1: a guy. Now I'll tell you this though, he's a
Speaker 1: big time holder. He will hold. I mean yeah, he
Speaker 1: will know he stan I mean his hands get outside
Speaker 1: the framework a lot, but in the Pac twelve they
Speaker 1: don't call it. I mean he is I mean he
Speaker 1: can hands get inside and hands will go outside. But
Speaker 1: I could say he's a position blocker. He'll block down.
Speaker 1: He really work. It's hard to finish his blocks. I
Speaker 1: mean he can be could be a hit and miss
Speaker 1: sometimes with defensive ends. But you put him on the outside.
Speaker 1: When you have him blocking on the edge, I mean
Speaker 1: he can he has the balance, the body control, the
Speaker 1: contact balance, all that. When he gets a guy hands outside, feet,
Speaker 1: all that works really well together. And then he turns
Speaker 1: really quick. I'll tell you one of his best traits.
Speaker 1: He could he could delay off the snap. He can
Speaker 1: come and just kind of give it just a little
Speaker 1: bit of hesitation. He lets the guy move and then
Speaker 1: he quickly jumps on him and turns the guy. And
Speaker 1: so he's got a real feel for how to play
Speaker 1: in position though, So I like him about that. The
Speaker 1: catching part of it, though, is he's kind of a
Speaker 1: boot waggle catcher. He's not really a down the field player.
Speaker 1: He's more of an underneath guy, safety blanket type guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they throw him the ball. He makes a lot of
Speaker 1: contested plays. He'll catch the football, catching in traffic, and
Speaker 1: he helps on pass protection. That's kind of a thing
Speaker 1: with him that that he does pretty good. When I
Speaker 1: raise you deal in the book, you know, because that's
Speaker 1: a good to wit me. You know, I'll bring the
Speaker 1: book out in a minute. But the first thing I say, Okay,
Speaker 1: this guy gotta you know, all his holding all as
Speaker 1: it is. The guy will get Yeah, all the other
Speaker 1: guys this guy, but he's good his hands. I mean,
Speaker 1: he knows how to he can kind of work him
Speaker 1: inside and then work him outside real quick. And then
Speaker 1: and then position himself to make them. Don't you don't
Speaker 1: you already have that kind of into Jeff Swain, Well,
Speaker 1: they yeah, Swain, and then we need to see what
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin is. Blake Jarwin's gonna be that that that
Speaker 1: type of guy too. They really liked Blake Jarwin, who
Speaker 1: they brought up halfway through the season. Yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 1: they were not They did not want to lose him
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia, and so they brought him up. And we'll
Speaker 1: see how these guys all play. But we'll get you
Speaker 1: with just drafts. I was glad they didn't really reach
Speaker 1: for a tight end. Was was he kind of picked
Speaker 1: where he's expected or Yeah, that's the kind of where
Speaker 1: I had him, right. I thought he was more like
Speaker 1: a fifth, sixth round kind of guy. I think I'm
Speaker 1: on my board. I think I had him on board
Speaker 1: and the fifth round. And let me see if where
Speaker 1: I had him. I had him the fifth round. I
Speaker 1: had him above Will Disley and Fu mcgalley. That those
Speaker 1: are my fifth round guys. Man. Mean when when when
Speaker 1: Jason said, you know, retirement, it didn't bother me like
Speaker 1: you bothered a lot of people, because I felt in
Speaker 1: the draft you can find a guy, but you got
Speaker 1: to get swaying and the other jar. You gotta give
Speaker 1: him opportunity, right, Yeah. And then also Rico gathers, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but man, Douglas is like, say, yeah, I should have
Speaker 1: just not said it. How about that? The next one,
Speaker 1: a little bit of a head scratcher to me. Talked
Speaker 1: me into this one, which one Mike White the quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: another another pet cat. Oh my gosh, Shannon talked me
Speaker 1: into this guy. You're gonna love this, okay, better better
Speaker 1: than the red rocket we have back there. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what, it'll be interesting to see. I think Mike
Speaker 1: White Mike White will surprise you. How well, I don't
Speaker 1: think Mike Whites will surprise you. I think Mike Mike
Speaker 1: White to me, I had have been the third round
Speaker 1: on my board. And when you started talking about all
Speaker 1: the all the all the quarterbacks they are in this draft,
Speaker 1: and you know we've seen plenty of them. I mean
Speaker 1: I had Rose and Jackson, Alan, Darnold Mayfield. The gap
Speaker 1: between those guys and Mike White, in my opinion, is
Speaker 1: not huge, really, no, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 1: This guy is six four and a half, He's two
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four pounds and he will let it fly.
Speaker 1: And I love him about that. I saw him take
Speaker 1: a ton of hits. He gets up, he keeps playing.
Speaker 1: He's a leaders. You could see he's emotionally invested in
Speaker 1: the game. You could see the guys around him gravitate
Speaker 1: towards him. The way he plays. I mean, he's got
Speaker 1: the arm talent again, like I said, to get it
Speaker 1: on the outside. He could touch it with the swing.
Speaker 1: He could throw all play action. He can hit his
Speaker 1: man on the move. He plays with poise. He doesn't
Speaker 1: appear to get rattled at all when you watch him play.
Speaker 1: And he can make throws going to his left for
Speaker 1: a pretty big guy. I think that's something we've seen
Speaker 1: with Dak his first earlier part of his career. How
Speaker 1: well can you get to your left, square up and
Speaker 1: make a throw to the outside. But this guy, again,
Speaker 1: he'll slide in the pocket. He'll make some tight window throws.
Speaker 1: He'll get hit, but his eyes are always down the field.
Speaker 1: He doesn't look down in the rush. His turnovers were
Speaker 1: more about not seeing the defender than poor decisions. So
Speaker 1: if you ever watched him his interceptions, they didn't have
Speaker 1: many of them. But the problem was. You know, you
Speaker 1: talked about your eyes being down the field, but there
Speaker 1: were times where he didn't see a guy slide underneath
Speaker 1: and then he threw the ball and it was too late,
Speaker 1: but I didn't I mean, he protected the ball in
Speaker 1: the pocket. I really I like this guy an awful lot.
Speaker 1: I know that Kellen Moore went and worked him out
Speaker 1: at Western Kentucky and came away really really impressed with him.
Speaker 1: So made a lot of sense. You're in this round
Speaker 1: at the fifth round. This is like a lottery ticket.
Speaker 1: You know, you're trying to hit the lotto here, and
Speaker 1: you know they hit it with Dak Prescott in the fourth.
Speaker 1: You know here, Mike quite five hundred seventy one. They
Speaker 1: might they might have done it again. Go ahead, Well,
Speaker 1: was it strange to have three such three young quarterbacks? Now?
Speaker 1: When I was in Green Bay in nineteen ninety three,
Speaker 1: I hate to be back in the day guy, but
Speaker 1: I'll be back in the day game. We had three
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and they didn't have many starts between them. Farv
Speaker 1: was coming off his first year. But our quarterbacks when
Speaker 1: we went to minicamp that first in nineteen ninety three OTAs,
Speaker 1: we had Brett Farve, Mark Burnell, Tye Debtmer and Kurt Warner.
Speaker 1: One of three quarterbacks. Four quarterbacks. Those are the four
Speaker 1: quarterbacks we had in camp. And and and and and
Speaker 1: those and those guys, like I said, I mean, you
Speaker 1: look at you look at you know, Farv and Warner
Speaker 1: were hauled. But there were young guys, right. We were
Speaker 1: not gonna you know, now the ninety six we went
Speaker 1: and got a veteran guy because we we traded Burnell,
Speaker 1: Debtmer and all that. But but we you know, we
Speaker 1: went and got Jim McMahon. But yeah, to playing young quarterbacks, no,
Speaker 1: I you know, I would rather die with a young
Speaker 1: quarterback than somebody that that that that Andy is. They
Speaker 1: was part of a team that that had when he
Speaker 1: was playing. You know, they went through quarterbacks. I mean
Speaker 1: eightman was kind of got banged up a little bit
Speaker 1: and they couldn't find the backup guy and saw all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, I mean, and now boom
Speaker 1: you hit a guy. You know, eight men stays. It's
Speaker 1: healthy and you win Super Bowls. But I'm for you
Speaker 1: give me the young guys. Let me. I will I
Speaker 1: will die with a young guy playing before I will
Speaker 1: die with some guy like Brandon Weedon. Yeah, no, absolutely,
Speaker 1: so does this guy have and I'm not saying for us,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying for one day to have a chance
Speaker 1: to be the starter absolutely somewhere. Absolutely he does. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: So he's not just drafted as a perennial backup. Nope.
Speaker 1: I think this guy. I think this guy's got enough talent.
Speaker 1: I think he's got enough ability. It'll be really interesting
Speaker 1: to see how in camp. You know, and I can
Speaker 1: I said, he has a lot of poise. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be overwhelmed by what's gonna happen. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a smart guy. I think you
Speaker 1: know you got with Cooper Rush. You saw what Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush was able to do in the preseason last year.
Speaker 1: He's one of the best quarterbacks in the league and
Speaker 1: it came to the preseason football. So I think Mike
Speaker 1: White's a more talented guy than him. This this is
Speaker 1: one of those picks that we're gonna look back on
Speaker 1: it and whether he's playing here or playing somewhere else,
Speaker 1: someone's gonna say, oh, Dallas knew what they were doing
Speaker 1: when they took Mike White. Very cool. Well, okay, you
Speaker 1: taught me into it, talk me into it. All right,
Speaker 1: what's you? What's you? It's okay, we got time quick.
Speaker 1: Oh no, we're keeping him until he's ready to go
Speaker 1: top break. Yeah, we're gonna go through three more guys. Yes,
Speaker 1: Chris Covington. What we got in that linebacker? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think Chris Covington to me, when you know Chris Covington
Speaker 1: when I watched him play, and again, I didn't know
Speaker 1: a whole heck of a lot about Chris Covington. Everybody else,
Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to find him in our
Speaker 1: book there. Oh the first one this is This was
Speaker 1: the one where I didn't you know, with Chris Covington.
Speaker 1: And it's shame on me about this because I should
Speaker 1: have had this guy. But Chris Covington is six two,
Speaker 1: he's two hundred and forty five pounds. He's a four
Speaker 1: seven eight guy. Yeah. The thing about him is playing
Speaker 1: in Indiana, and I watched him play against Ohio State,
Speaker 1: Michigan State, and Wisconsin, so some pretty physical teams against him.
Speaker 1: So I love the way he had really good reactions
Speaker 1: to the ball. I really liked him about that, his
Speaker 1: ability to come forward to make plays. I liked him
Speaker 1: in coverage. I like the ability of him to when
Speaker 1: when all of a sudden they break on the ball,
Speaker 1: he's there. Uh. He can cover a little bit on
Speaker 1: the on that part of it though. I like the
Speaker 1: waves kind of a wrap up tackler as well. Uh So, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy would probably be more of a special teams guy.
Speaker 1: Probably play him at a will linebacker because I think
Speaker 1: you have to have him off the ball. But he's
Speaker 1: got size to him and I think you when you
Speaker 1: like say you let him run, let him get to
Speaker 1: the football. He's a really aggressive player, has to be
Speaker 1: careful about overrunning some plays at times, but other than that,
Speaker 1: I think he's pretty good. Next guy, just did hi
Speaker 1: him listed? Look it was the best duff. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the best uff. Yeah. Just bring on all the Boys players.
Speaker 1: Just bring him to Dallas. Blue something in the water
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys like up there. Cedric Wilson, wide receiver
Speaker 1: from Boise State. Yeah, Cedric Wilson. And again, this is
Speaker 1: a guy that a lot of people had that were
Speaker 1: pretty high on him. I had him in the seventh
Speaker 1: round myself, but he went in six at two o eight. Uh.
Speaker 1: I've kind of felt like with Cedric Wilson. The ball
Speaker 1: down the field was his best asset when the ball
Speaker 1: wentz down. He was one of those guys that starts
Speaker 1: on the right side of the formation. He runs his
Speaker 1: route like he's running a post, and he's coming all
Speaker 1: the way across the field and then they find him
Speaker 1: on the other side of the field. But he does
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff underneath. I think he's got a
Speaker 1: good catch radius. He's to me, when you watch him play,
Speaker 1: the ball is down the field. He's a just a
Speaker 1: down the field player. There is some separation there. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he has the separation that Michael Gallop passed.
Speaker 1: I think Gallup's got better separation. But when again, when
Speaker 1: you're talking about those Mountain West kids, he's running past
Speaker 1: some defenders. I mean they're they're hitting him with the
Speaker 1: passes down the field, across the field underneath, the catch
Speaker 1: radius I think is pretty good. We'll see if, in fact, though,
Speaker 1: how it all plays out. But yeah, he's a he's
Speaker 1: a type of guy though that and when it came
Speaker 1: down to the late to the latter part of the draft,
Speaker 1: you know he didn't want to probably fight for a
Speaker 1: guy in free agency. That's probably what you would Uh,
Speaker 1: that's probably what the guy you would want to go
Speaker 1: for right there. Were you're a little surprised they took
Speaker 1: another wide receiver, Kevin, Yeah, I think that to me,
Speaker 1: I think they're just gonna throw as many guys at
Speaker 1: this thing as they can. You know, if you look
Speaker 1: at really on the board of any guys now, like
Speaker 1: I said, I would have mean personally though, uh, you
Speaker 1: know they we're gonna get down to both Scarborough, the
Speaker 1: running back will be I personally had a couple of
Speaker 1: running backs on my board higher widely from Iowa, Williams
Speaker 1: from LSU, Carter from actually from Grambling were guys that
Speaker 1: I had more, you know, right above Scarborough. But at
Speaker 1: the bottom board you're looking for trades. I think with Wilson,
Speaker 1: they're looking for trades. They're looking for that downfield guy.
Speaker 1: But you make a point, Kurt, I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: probably a couple other positions that I want. You know,
Speaker 1: they signed this guy cam Kelly as a free agent.
Speaker 1: You know, after the draft, he's going to be an
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent, and I thought, you know, I would
Speaker 1: have taken him over or maybe a Scarborough. But then
Speaker 1: if I could have taken it back again widely would
Speaker 1: have been the back. You know, with Wilson, I had
Speaker 1: him in the seventh round, but I had some other
Speaker 1: guys higher than him on my board. Now the trades,
Speaker 1: what are we getting? What do we what do we
Speaker 1: get for? Switzer got a young guy, right, Yeah. Tavon
Speaker 1: Austin is a guy that I really liked coming out
Speaker 1: of West Virginia, and to me, he's a the problem
Speaker 1: and the thing that bothers me the most about him.
Speaker 1: I liked him coming out of West Virginia. I thought
Speaker 1: they were gonna be able to use him in a
Speaker 1: way where you get him the football, you get him
Speaker 1: the ball in space, You'll let him make plays. He's explosive.
Speaker 1: I mean you watched the game against University of Texas
Speaker 1: his senior year and he just ate him alive. I
Speaker 1: mean just explosive, play after play after play after play.
Speaker 1: Now you know what bothers me a little bit is
Speaker 1: Sean McVay is a coach that has a history of
Speaker 1: taking guys like him and making it work. He did
Speaker 1: it with a Jamison Crowder with the Redskins, a smaller guy,
Speaker 1: a quicker guy, and made Jamison crowd Are a great
Speaker 1: player out at a duke. He couldn't do anything this guy,
Speaker 1: and that bothers me, you know. I mean, they never
Speaker 1: could find a way to kind of get him going. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe it's this is gonna be a kind of an
Speaker 1: eye opener for him. That next stop is the last stop.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's always got the speed. They'll use him
Speaker 1: as a kick punt return guy. Maybe you'll see some
Speaker 1: jet sweep stuff. But let's see if they can get creative.
Speaker 1: And I know people out there SAYT brought us this team.
Speaker 1: Can't get creative with receivers, look what they do. But
Speaker 1: we'll see what this guy. He's very, very explosive in
Speaker 1: the way he plays. He's like a faster, better lucky
Speaker 1: whitehead as women did I think scars most coach McVeigh
Speaker 1: was two years I mean yeah, two years. Ten fumbles, Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, he'll he yeah, he'll do he'll put it
Speaker 1: down on the Ground't gonna work here, absolutely absolutely. And
Speaker 1: what about this Ward kid they got in the trade
Speaker 1: with us. This is this is a this is Will
Speaker 1: mcclay's guy. This is all Will McClay right here. I
Speaker 1: trust in Will McClay. He should trust in Will McLay.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is a guy that hadn't the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl that they coached up two years ago at Oakley
Speaker 1: got banged up. I need to kind of get this
Speaker 1: history a little bit better about what happened to him there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they wanted to draft him, right, They sure
Speaker 1: did at third round grade on him. But this is
Speaker 1: a Will McClay guy. When they when when the Raiders
Speaker 1: were the one that called about Switzer, and you gotta
Speaker 1: remember Rich Basacchi is up there now in Oakland as
Speaker 1: a coach, and they called about Switzer and they said, oh,
Speaker 1: and then they said, well, who are you gonna offer?
Speaker 1: How do you want to do this? And when they
Speaker 1: offered war, Will McClay lit up and said, let's do this. Wow,
Speaker 1: let's go. So yeah, So this is a guy that
Speaker 1: Will has that. He likes the link to this kid.
Speaker 1: He likes the range of build, the range build of
Speaker 1: the kid. He likes him as a pass rusher. He
Speaker 1: thinks he could do something. He thinks that Kat and
Speaker 1: Marinellian those guys. So throw him in the mix. Let's
Speaker 1: see what he is with coney eally, with Tapper or
Speaker 1: a d N as what he was, Yeah with d
Speaker 1: N and cost So we'll see what the where they
Speaker 1: in fact where they where they kind of like I said,
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna play on the outside. We'll see
Speaker 1: what they do inside, if they do anything with him inside.
Speaker 1: But this is this is Will wanted this guy in
Speaker 1: the trade. That's how he got it work down. Before
Speaker 1: we let you go, one more thing. This was great
Speaker 1: stuff by the way, brought us awesome superrossings. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: can't keep him, that can't. We had two hours do
Speaker 1: your show for you know, what are you hearing? U?
Speaker 1: What are you hearing about Witton? How did you hear
Speaker 1: anything about how this all went down? Yeah? I was
Speaker 1: told some from folks I have some connections in Bristol,
Speaker 1: excuse me, And evidently Witten. They had some people they
Speaker 1: brought in to former players to try out for the
Speaker 1: job for Monday Night Football, and Witten was one of
Speaker 1: the last ones to try out. This is what I
Speaker 1: was told. And they took his all the guys who
Speaker 1: tried out and took him to a sample group of audience,
Speaker 1: a sample audience, and the sample audience said, this is
Speaker 1: the best one, and it was Witten. So you know,
Speaker 1: the draft being here, ESPN being here, you know, it's
Speaker 1: probably a great opportunity. I'm sure that he's talked to
Speaker 1: Tony about what's like being on the road, what's like
Speaker 1: working with these crews, how things? You know, the pay
Speaker 1: is excellent. Money on football is one of the great,
Speaker 1: uh you know when historic iconic, you know, television programs
Speaker 1: in our history. And yeah, it's a great opportunity. You
Speaker 1: might not have this opportunity next year because if you
Speaker 1: get guys, what if a guy like Drew Brees retires,
Speaker 1: you know what if Larry Fitzgerald retires, there's some really
Speaker 1: some dynamic personalities and guys that you might not get
Speaker 1: that opportunity again. So if in fact he does leave,
Speaker 1: it's going to be for something pretty good. But talking
Speaker 1: to ESPN people, it sounds like that the target are
Speaker 1: of the audience. The sample audience thought that Witton was
Speaker 1: really really good at it, and they just came at him.
Speaker 1: They came at him. So that's kind of where we're at.
Speaker 1: So we'll see. Wednesday's probably the day that we'll hear.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just guessing right now, and we'll and
Speaker 1: and we'll go from there. If he's here, he's here.
Speaker 1: If he's not, then had a hell of a run, man,
Speaker 1: hell of a run. Well, you had a hell of
Speaker 1: a run on this show. Well, like I said, I
Speaker 1: wish we could keep you two hours, but I know
Speaker 1: you got you gotta get out of here. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: want to let you go. Appreciate you stopping by break
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Speaker 1: So we've got uh. Douglas has some some audio cuts
Speaker 1: from some of the calls from mister Jones and Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett over the weekend. But before we get to those,
Speaker 1: who was your favorite pick out of this draft? Kurt?
Speaker 1: Which one did the best? Which one did you think
Speaker 1: was a good move? Um? I do like this gallop
Speaker 1: kid because one they waited, they didn't didn't reach, they
Speaker 1: didn't reach for him. And two just what little I've
Speaker 1: read and then here and brought us it sounds like
Speaker 1: he could make a pretty quick impact. What about you, Nate,
Speaker 1: what what'd you like? Uh? I like that kid, he
Speaker 1: talked about it. I like Connor, but but this armstrong kid.
Speaker 1: I every rep that he can get. I wanted to
Speaker 1: give it to him, every rep because so how as
Speaker 1: good as d law is, you know coming off that
Speaker 1: left side, but you just understand when the quarterback got
Speaker 1: his back to you, you bringing that heat, you can
Speaker 1: change the quarterback's life. It's gonna be interesting to see
Speaker 1: how they balanced developing him with developing tea man. Let
Speaker 1: him play, Yeah, let you it. The other guy warred.
Speaker 1: They got I don't know about much about him, but
Speaker 1: you need that guy coming off your left side. I
Speaker 1: promise you that Darrell brings a whole different dollar value.
Speaker 1: I'm promise you Awards a guy they got the trade
Speaker 1: with Switzer from from Oakland. I really liked something cool.
Speaker 1: Both of the both of the number one and the
Speaker 1: number two pick. Both of them grew up Cowboy fans.
Speaker 1: We talked to Layton's dad whenever he was whenever he
Speaker 1: was here with him, and he said he wanted to
Speaker 1: do two things when he was a kid. He wanted
Speaker 1: to play football for Boise and he wanted to play
Speaker 1: football for the Dallas Cowboys, which was really cool. And
Speaker 1: that was like when he was two years old. Cool,
Speaker 1: super cool. And then Connor Williams, yeah from down the
Speaker 1: street and Coppell, I think yes, down the street in
Speaker 1: Coppel grew up with Cowboys fan and just said it
Speaker 1: was a crazy thing. I really I really like that pick.
Speaker 1: But I think they got super value. And basically what
Speaker 1: they're telling Zeke is stay out of trouble, get your
Speaker 1: ass in shape, because we're gonna hand you the ball
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty times this year, and we're probably
Speaker 1: gonna throw it to you another hundred times, we beefed
Speaker 1: up this offensive line and we're gonna ride you into
Speaker 1: the ground. So hell, he may rush for three thousand
Speaker 1: yards and that's you know, And that's what you know, people,
Speaker 1: I couldn't get people to wrap their arms around for
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. That's what I've been preaching for
Speaker 1: the last two weeks is the way this thing transpired. Dad,
Speaker 1: even when they even when they said Jason was retiring
Speaker 1: and the waves, Stephen Jones said, Okay, all right, I said,
Speaker 1: get ready to fellas. I say, let's put this kid
Speaker 1: in a deep freeze. I say, and bring him out
Speaker 1: a week, bring him out a week before the last
Speaker 1: preseason game, like who you're talking about? Put Zeke in
Speaker 1: a deep freeze right now so he don't move around
Speaker 1: so because he's gonna touch it three hund than twenty
Speaker 1: times rushing and another eighty five and nine of times.
Speaker 1: With the past, I said, they've been the work this
Speaker 1: kid to death. So I mean he wouldn't be able
Speaker 1: to go out out of a game. He was gonna
Speaker 1: be so tired. Yeah, I mean this thing is predicated
Speaker 1: on Zeke and then making sure that Dak got receivers
Speaker 1: that gonna be in the right place, that right, or
Speaker 1: at least trying to get there. The release of Dad
Speaker 1: says two things. Your production dropped off. We know that
Speaker 1: you're not the twelve point five. We can't give you that.
Speaker 1: But it sends a message to the Terrence Williams guys
Speaker 1: that kind of just this is what you run, and
Speaker 1: this only thing you can run. You better demand more
Speaker 1: from yourself and demand more from the coaches. The way
Speaker 1: they went out and got this Michael Galloper, like I said, well,
Speaker 1: I didn't know much about him. I went to reading
Speaker 1: about him and that he came from a junior college,
Speaker 1: you know, because he didn't had the grades. He went
Speaker 1: and got the grades. He came to Colorado States Colt
Speaker 1: damn his junior and senior year. Just never dropped off,
Speaker 1: just attacked the ball. Uh don't look at his for
Speaker 1: it because he run his way faster than that. So
Speaker 1: when you thinking of that run nice routes, how points
Speaker 1: the ball, catches with his hands. They trying to tell
Speaker 1: you this is the type of guy we want, and
Speaker 1: evidently Alan Hearns is that type of guy for us,
Speaker 1: catching with his hands, running the correct routes. They're letting
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm already on this team. Uh, this
Speaker 1: is this is how I have to do it now, right.
Speaker 1: You know they want guys that they can trust and
Speaker 1: guys that are where they're supposed to be. That's right,
Speaker 1: And I mean they're look at look at what they've
Speaker 1: done since the end of the last season. They have
Speaker 1: pretty much retooled this whole offense. Yeah, so friendly, right, man,
Speaker 1: tell you what, dakin zeke, I'll tell you what. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. And that's why as much as witness
Speaker 1: done for this team, him retiring don't scare me like
Speaker 1: it does most people. Jeff Swain needs opportunity. You know.
Speaker 1: The other kid, jar Jar, he needs opportunity. That's Let's
Speaker 1: see is Rico got anything to him. You just can't
Speaker 1: keep every year old, you know. You know, let these
Speaker 1: guys play to give them every rep they can they
Speaker 1: can stand. Let's see what the the the kid that shows,
Speaker 1: Let's see what he can do. Let's see if he's
Speaker 1: a great holder that brought us as he is. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that you want to escape from him.
Speaker 1: So I believe that's why you know, I say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: don't waste sounds on broad us I mean he's here,
Speaker 1: Let's get it all. Yeah, because the players that I like,
Speaker 1: you know, the Vanderish guy. If you listen, when when
Speaker 1: people believe in you and know who you are, they
Speaker 1: talk about it. These coaches, even mister Jones, there's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong on his neck. I know, nobody asked me about
Speaker 1: it the second time. I know I'm being redundant. This
Speaker 1: kid is ready to go. But we saw what we felt.
Speaker 1: And then when they got this, Connor Williams first thing
Speaker 1: he said was and this made me line up even
Speaker 1: more with doing the right thing. The Washington Redskins played
Speaker 1: a part in us making sure that that never happens again.
Speaker 1: Two things happened. We got rid of the offensive line coach,
Speaker 1: and we got a bet. We got a better offensive
Speaker 1: linement in here. We went out and addressed it in
Speaker 1: free agency. We addressed it in the draft. So if
Speaker 1: something happens to Tyron Smith, we would not have that.
Speaker 1: The Falcons media that game, that game, Hey, that game changed.
Speaker 1: That game changed it and not only hurt Chaz Green
Speaker 1: as a player in his development. Man, you your quarterback
Speaker 1: was no good after that? Come on, now, come on now.
Speaker 1: And that's from two things that we could have saved
Speaker 1: Chad's green by getting them out of there and running
Speaker 1: a whole different scheme. Uh, so that that's a part
Speaker 1: of the coaches deal. And now you got my man,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, recovering from that man that's too
Speaker 1: many hits. Yeah. Speaking of Connor Williams Douglas, I think
Speaker 1: you got some audio from whatever he was. He was
Speaker 1: at the draft and uh was possibly going round one.
Speaker 1: Um local kid from right down the street like brought
Speaker 1: us said he called some of his high school games
Speaker 1: and when he finally did get the call, super emotional. Um,
Speaker 1: this is the call from Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett. Well, Connor, Yeah,
Speaker 1: got somebody wants to talk to us, Dallas Cowboys. Hold on, Connor, Connor,
Speaker 1: This Jerry Jones, and you're now a cowboy. We just
Speaker 1: handed in, Connor. Okay, this Jerry Jones and you're now cowboy.
Speaker 1: We just handed you in. Congratulations. Hey, I just thought
Speaker 1: I knew what I might be able to coomplish when
Speaker 1: I became a cowboy. I went to another here's your
Speaker 1: head coach, hen Hey, congratulations. Man, sounds a little hectic
Speaker 1: over there. So that's that was a matching what we
Speaker 1: saw on TV when he fell on the ground. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: or somebody that was excited, Oh yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 1: They were out at uh AT and t stay for that.
Speaker 1: So really cool, super cool momentum. You got another one
Speaker 1: in there, Douglas two. I picked three that I thought
Speaker 1: were distinctive. That was that one. Of course, because he
Speaker 1: was so emotional. I think what brought us said that
Speaker 1: if he had come out in the draft last year,
Speaker 1: he'd have been a first round pick. And so now
Speaker 1: he slips through the first round into the second, goes
Speaker 1: to his home state, hometown team. We don't need commentary, Douglas,
Speaker 1: just play. In that case, let's go to the next
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god. Who we got Douglas?
Speaker 1: Who's the next one? Is the third round pick? Wide
Speaker 1: receiver out of Colorado State Michael Gallop and a lot
Speaker 1: of people heard this and thought, man, it's a good
Speaker 1: thing that he didn't think it was a prank call. Hello, Chris, wrong,
Speaker 1: one was out of order. Here we go, Hello, Michael,
Speaker 1: somebody wants to talk to you. Michael Gallup. This is Michael.
Speaker 1: This is the governor of Texas and I'm here. I'm
Speaker 1: here with Jerry Jones and we are proud to say
Speaker 1: you are a Dallas cowboy, das. I appreciate, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Of course. Jerry Jones wants to talk to you, Michael, Michael,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones. I'm doing great. And that was our governor
Speaker 1: of Texas that just got on the phone and told
Speaker 1: you sitting right here with me, and he got to you. Now,
Speaker 1: Dallas cowboy, you'll probably very much, yes, sir, he's and
Speaker 1: come in here and let's win some ball games. Okay, congratulating.
Speaker 1: Listen here here's our head coach, Jase and Garrett. Michael.
Speaker 1: Thank congratulations, man, Thank you you got, thank you, You
Speaker 1: got the governor of Texas calling you. You got mister
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones calling you so special deal man. Congratulations, Thank you.
Speaker 1: You're ready to work. I'm always ready, always think I
Speaker 1: know you are. I know you are. That's the big
Speaker 1: reason why we picked you. I'm excited to get you
Speaker 1: get after. Man's a lot of noise back there. That's
Speaker 1: a good sign. Congrats. I'm gonna hand the phone to Scotland.
Speaker 1: I had happens four All right, all right, where are
Speaker 1: you going? Man? Thank you very much? Michael. All's good.
Speaker 1: That's good. Douglas. That's good. So we're gonna wait, We're
Speaker 1: gonna keep handing till we got to you. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I think Nates is defeated as our next guy. He's
Speaker 1: a polite young man. He said yes sir about eighty
Speaker 1: seven times, and he took that governor thing in stride. Well,
Speaker 1: he probably didn't know what the hell was going on.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, the governor. Why was the governor on
Speaker 1: the phone. Yeah right, I'm let's say anothering. We heard
Speaker 1: him get him out of George and that poling killing him.
Speaker 1: Did you get that part of it when he was
Speaker 1: talking basically what you okay? I'm alras, I'm in George
Speaker 1: in the poling his game year. Yeah okay, I tuned
Speaker 1: out by then. Go ahead, Douglas, what we got now?
Speaker 1: So the final one is the sixth our first pick
Speaker 1: in the sixth round, Chris Covington, linebacker out of Indiana,
Speaker 1: And as I mentioned, uh, when he answers the phone,
Speaker 1: he sounds defeated, like he thinks he's slipped too far,
Speaker 1: but he cheers up pretty quickly. Hello, Chris, Yeah, how
Speaker 1: are you doing? Will play with the Cowboys? I want
Speaker 1: somebody wants to talk to you. Chris is Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. Good afternoon, and uh, we just drafted you,
Speaker 1: Yes we did, Yes, we did. Appreciate it. Well, uh,
Speaker 1: congratulations to you. Seriously. It's a great time. You've worked
Speaker 1: hard to get to this spot, and we're glad to
Speaker 1: be able to draft you and really glad that this
Speaker 1: will be a great opportunity for you. You continue to
Speaker 1: work as hard as you've worked, and you'll land on it.
Speaker 1: You'll get you a spot on this team. But the
Speaker 1: main thing is we've taken the first step and we've
Speaker 1: got you on the roster y. So we're gonna be
Speaker 1: drafting and tell you family, I'm I'm proud your cowboy.
Speaker 1: Now I want to hand you the phone to our
Speaker 1: head coach, Jason Garrett. All right, hey, Chris, congratulations, I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. It's gonna be a great opportunity for you.
Speaker 1: Excited to get you in here. Yeah oh yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought of so much opportunity. Okay, let's get down. Well,
Speaker 1: you got it, you're ready to work. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: That's one of the big reasons we drafted you. You
Speaker 1: know that, yes, yes, how much you love ball and
Speaker 1: how much you love to work good, be a great
Speaker 1: opportunity for it is a great day. It is a
Speaker 1: great day for us as well. Yeah all right, yoh,
Speaker 1: thanks Douglas. Let's take a quick break. When we come back,
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Speaker 1: know what we think about this draft. I'll start it
Speaker 1: all sure. I really like the number one pick. I
Speaker 1: think the kids got a very very high ceiling. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's reached his full potential yet. See like
Speaker 1: a great kid comes from a seems like a great family.
Speaker 1: His dad owns a big game hunting outfit. They hunt
Speaker 1: bears and wolves and stuff in Alaska. But I think
Speaker 1: he uh just a big kid. I think immediate impact.
Speaker 1: I think he plays right out of the gate. Quit
Speaker 1: looking at me, crazy, Nate. I love the second round pick.
Speaker 1: This guy plays with for an offensive lineman. He's nasty,
Speaker 1: he plays with an attitude kind of like lyle you
Speaker 1: get him in Lyele out there. I think this is
Speaker 1: a great, great pick, and uh brought us taught me
Speaker 1: into the quarterback pick, so I'm not crazy that they
Speaker 1: gave up Switzer. I'd like to see one more year
Speaker 1: out of Switzer, but I would not have been surprised
Speaker 1: if I thought they would hold on to him in
Speaker 1: Beasley at least to training camp for for camp bodies.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't have been surprised if if one of
Speaker 1: those guys wouldn't have been here after camp. I'm surprised
Speaker 1: they did it in the draft, but hey, at least
Speaker 1: you got some value out of it. Um, you got
Speaker 1: another player out of it. So I'm interested to see
Speaker 1: what Tavon Austin can do. UM. I think I give
Speaker 1: them a solid B B plus. I think this is
Speaker 1: a good draft. I don't think they reached for anything.
Speaker 1: I think they let the players come to them. Took
Speaker 1: the best one that they thought was. You know what
Speaker 1: have we been saying for five months? Best best available player,
Speaker 1: regardless of position. They could have reached for a safety
Speaker 1: a couple of times, I don't or try to trade up.
Speaker 1: They didn't do that. They just let it come to them.
Speaker 1: So I give it a solid I said, give it
Speaker 1: a solid B B plus. But you, Kurt, I agree
Speaker 1: with the fact that I don't think they got panicky.
Speaker 1: They didn't rush, you know the news that went and
Speaker 1: came out and and other things that happened. I was
Speaker 1: glad they kind of stuck to their board. Um, didn't
Speaker 1: reach for a tight end, didn't reach for some of
Speaker 1: the other positions that it kind of let it come
Speaker 1: to them and then took the best player that was available.
Speaker 1: UM My one worry is no defensive backs. And we
Speaker 1: went into this draft saying you can never have enough,
Speaker 1: and we didn't take any. So that tells you what
Speaker 1: they think about them. I guess my question is which
Speaker 1: position are you worried about. I mean, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: the old saying you never have enough cornerbacks. But they
Speaker 1: got in thirty of them. They got thirty of them.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying that. You know, they hired
Speaker 1: some guys that didn't I mean, they signed some guys
Speaker 1: that can get drafted. They got a lot of young
Speaker 1: guys last year. You hope they continue to develop. Me
Speaker 1: but what round would you if it's not here for Seattle?
Speaker 1: What what it wasn't gonna be a first or second pick.
Speaker 1: What round would you like they have gotten in the
Speaker 1: sixth the seventh? Yeah, I mean, did they need another
Speaker 1: wide receiver after all the moves they made? After depth
Speaker 1: of that as much as the strength going to continue
Speaker 1: to be your offense? Yep? Yeah, Well we've been saying
Speaker 1: they need to improve their defense. Well the thing about
Speaker 1: it is I'm with you on that. But then they
Speaker 1: wouldn't have stuck to their board. Then we would have
Speaker 1: been like, Okay, then we've been here and brought us
Speaker 1: where they got off the board, and well, they stuck
Speaker 1: to their board. So I don't know. I just I
Speaker 1: think they were probably defensive backs in that range they
Speaker 1: could have taken if they wanted. But I mean, they
Speaker 1: know more than I do. Overall grade. I mean it's
Speaker 1: a bit. I mean, like, I like what they did.
Speaker 1: I just that worries ate what you think. I like
Speaker 1: what the what they did with the Connor Williams in
Speaker 1: the in the in the wide receiving the dvs. Event,
Speaker 1: I liked all of them. I liked those moves there
Speaker 1: because if you're gonna say your strength, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: your offensive line. Okay, you you help yourself in free agency.
Speaker 1: You you got a surprise pick, and you got a
Speaker 1: guy that was a number one pick on most people
Speaker 1: board last year and part of this year that slid
Speaker 1: and Connor Williams. You can't lose like that. If this
Speaker 1: is the strength of your team, if you're gonna put
Speaker 1: it's two into this, the running backs in the offensive line,
Speaker 1: you saying this is gonna tout your team. All you
Speaker 1: did was strengthen it. And what's encouraging to me about
Speaker 1: that is they took that Atlanta game. They didn't hide
Speaker 1: from it. They didn't say, oh, well, this was a fluke.
Speaker 1: They realized that they had a glaring need and they
Speaker 1: addressed it. And with the wide receiver, you know, they
Speaker 1: gotta pick you see Brown said he had them in
Speaker 1: a second round. Yeah, they gotta pick here. Where this
Speaker 1: guy everything that the last few guys didn't do. This
Speaker 1: guy supposedly can learn how and be better at doing that,
Speaker 1: you know. And then the defens event, Like I said,
Speaker 1: I've never seen this kid play a lot, you know,
Speaker 1: but what I saw in the highlights I liked, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like he he looks like a defensive end. He
Speaker 1: don't look like a bolted up this that he looks
Speaker 1: like he can grow into being something special. Uh. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I woke up with that safety thing in
Speaker 1: my mind. But where where where you know? Because I
Speaker 1: was like, wait, we gotta get No, we don't. Because
Speaker 1: it's still a fine line between having enough guys and
Speaker 1: having too many guys. Because every one our guys that
Speaker 1: we drafted last year was heard either doing all the
Speaker 1: training camp all of ended out doing it during the
Speaker 1: regular season. These guys need reps and sometimes even young
Speaker 1: guys can start to steal reps. You we get too
Speaker 1: many dbs. Now, we got people that can't get reps,
Speaker 1: and so we gotta put these guys on hold. We
Speaker 1: can't afford to do that. We don't know who our
Speaker 1: safety is. Is our safety Woods? Is that advised safety? Heath?
Speaker 1: Is that safety cage? Ca Vaughn? Who is our safety?
Speaker 1: I'm thinking now who is? And we don't put Jones down.
Speaker 1: Jones gonna start at one of these corners. You ain't
Speaker 1: just moving him to say okay, get in line right
Speaker 1: so you can you know what I'm saying. So he's
Speaker 1: got to play one of these corners. Well, we got Lewis,
Speaker 1: we got Tito, and we got him, and we got
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, so we got you can't have so many
Speaker 1: on the team. Let him play. They got to play. Man,
Speaker 1: it's time to compete. That's why I say the safety
Speaker 1: thing wasn't but it didn't bother me after a while,
Speaker 1: because it's like, who is the safetist If we don't
Speaker 1: get if we don't get the kid from Seattle and
Speaker 1: we don't get a guy in the first or second round,
Speaker 1: now you're just getting the guy that we're putting in line.
Speaker 1: So now we lose either Michael Gallup Armstrong or the
Speaker 1: tight end because you gotta get a guy that can play.
Speaker 1: You build your team on the third, fourth, the third
Speaker 1: and fourth rounds. That's where you that's where you get
Speaker 1: your horses. And I think we got the horses right there.
Speaker 1: Would you give them a grade nine to nine nine?
Speaker 1: You know you two year coming to training camp two
Speaker 1: years from now. No, we're gonna get him great out
Speaker 1: of training camp. All right, let's go, let's get out
Speaker 1: of here, sir. We will see you guys. Man Douglas.
Speaker 1: Douglas man at me, he said a word. We used
Speaker 1: to get his grade. But if I say something time
Speaker 1: I'm about to pee in my pants, so y'all can
Speaker 1: get his grade. But I'm leaving so so here you
Speaker 1: gonna say this, get his grade, y'all sign off. I'm
Speaker 1: going to the bathroom. Sign off of us man. Yeah,
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