WEBVTT - Hangin' With The 'Boys: Recapping An Eventful Weekend 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:08.920 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:21.600 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. The Dallas Cowboys Select 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:27.440 Layton Vendorretta. He's Hanging with the Boys, broadcasting live from 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:31.760 Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Now 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:39.760 your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and Shannon Gross. Monday, 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:43.080 and what a Monday. It is so many things to 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.279 get to. I wish we had two hours to do 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:49.400 this show we have yeah today, I mean we've been 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:51.839 struggling for things to talk about and now we have 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:59.560 draft things, Jason Witten things, Bye bye, Ryan Switzer, Hello, 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:03.640 Tavee on Austin. So many things to get to, men, 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:06.920 But to get us started? What was that? Kurt? So much? 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:08.720 What you look at? What you're looking at in that 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:15.520 Twitter feed? Uh huh m hmmm. All right, what's up fellas? 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:20.200 How are you alright? Are you doing great? Oh? All right, Nate, 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:24.080 I'm good. I didn't like that offensive tackle from Texas. 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:28.960 I'm just you know, um, oh, here we go. This 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.200 is he's gonna he's getting into pre No no, no, no, 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:35.720 brother Oxnard moved. We're not gonna waste any of your time. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.399 I hope. I'm gonna waiting on him to say, Hey, 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.520 we got brought is here. The draft has been completed. Hey, 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:46.400 we got brought us here completed. Let's get I mean, 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:49.480 all the guessing is overWe let's go to it. Welcome 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.680 to the show. Brought us. I appreciate, I just got 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:54.720 I just got done with the show. I appreciate the 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:59.080 like the two minutes of me not having to talk, said, 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:04.880 he catch his breath, all right, brought us here? Who 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:09.639 is this guy? Let's let's do this. Gonna take Yeah, yeah, 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:11.920 I know what you talk about. Who is this? Explain? 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.280 Let's do this. Brought us. We only have you for 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:17.600 about fifteen minutes. Sure, so let's hit all these guys 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.200 and you give us what we're getting with these players. 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:22.600 And then let's get the two guys we got in 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:26.160 trades and tell us what we can expect out of 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.520 him because we don't have you for long. But kick 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.960 it off with kick it off with our first guy, Vanderish. 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:33.400 What are we getting there, Well, you're getting a guy 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.560 that could play all three positions. Though he's a guy. 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.440 He's got the size, he's got the speed, he's got 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:41.720 the ability though to make plays on the outside, where 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:43.519 he's gonna be a little bit of a problem. I 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.120 think for him it's he's gonna have to learn how 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:46.920 to play a little bit more physical with his hands 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.120 at the point of attack. But you're talking about a 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.760 guy that can run, hit, finish. He watched the Oregon game. 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:53.880 He avoids a lot of blocks. He makes plays in 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.400 the hole. You get a guy that's really good in coverage. 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.079 I think that's where he's really gonna shine here. Initially, though, 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.760 He's got a feel for how to play and drop 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.519 and then react to the football. So really a smart 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.640 aware player in that regard. Again, he could play all 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:10.520 three spots. I have a feeling he's gonna play Mike. 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.000 They're gonna probably do something with Jalen Smith. We'll see 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:16.840 how that all plays out. Any concerns with his health, No, Actually, 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.040 the everybody kind of was a scare. They're talking about 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:20.800 his neck and the things that were going on. When 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:22.680 they are talked to some doctors here and talk to 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.600 some trainers here, everybody was okay on that, So there 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.760 should be no problem with with the health. That's why 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:29.440 they were able to take him. This is a guy 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:31.440 they targeted all along that they were going to take 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.720 as a team that needs linebackers. He's what he fits 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.760 what they want to do defensively. Now he hasn't played. 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.680 He hasn't played eleven on eleven football for very long. 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:45.720 Is he a project guy? No? No? Ready? Yeah, yeah, 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:49.800 you watched Boyse football. He's he's out now again, he hasn't. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:51.880 He's not one of these guys that's a four year 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.280 starter at Boise and all that. I mean, don't get 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.080 me wrong about that. He's his software year. He was 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.440 playing quite a bit. He got he got hurt, and 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:01.440 then then he took off a little bit of his 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:05.360 senior year though, but he's always around the football. The 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.600 pick for me was I liked Evans from Alabama a 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:10.320 little bit better because I thought he was a little 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:12.920 bit more of a physical player. But I have no 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:15.360 problem with Layton vander Esh for what they're gonna try 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.200 and do with him. I think he's a really good 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:19.880 fit for for this football team. Okay, do you have 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.600 any doubts about them not taking a receiver in that 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.039 I knew they were taking Vanderesh the whole time. I 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:26.560 never thought they were going to take her. I mean, 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.240 to me, we always talked about on the Draft show. Okay, 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.560 they're gonna take a you know, oh Dez has gone, 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.560 They're gonna take a receiver. They have to take a receiver. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.640 The receiver they got Michael Gallup and will get to him. 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:38.599 You know, I have a side of second round grade 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:40.920 on him. That just showed you the depth of the position. 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.280 There were more wide receivers than there were linebackers. They 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:47.560 got a second round receiver at pick eighty one, and 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:50.479 so on my board, and I'm sure on their board 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.359 he was probably in the same spot. So uh, you 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:56.320 know that that the fact that they were going to 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.200 pick a receiver at nineteen, I just didn't feel like 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:01.600 that that was it. You know, more was more was available, 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.359 and then also to Ridley was available. But I just 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:06.640 didn't feel like vander esh was their guy the whole time. 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:12.400 And I thought about it the night before the draft, 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:17.359 and I thought about it like Darwin James, and I 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.080 came to conclusion by that morning, Yeah, like they ain't 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:23.440 taking this guy. Yeah, they fall to him. And so 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.359 I'm like, somebody else is in the mix because I 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:28.840 just wasn't fitting him because all of the research I'd 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:32.159 done on him. So the safety thing, but even a factor. 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.120 He well, we were on the Draft show. We had 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.479 talked about this a bunch leading up to the draft 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.160 that my scout buddies around the league, not the Cowboys 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.160 scout guys, but the scouts around the league were telling 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.680 me that Derwin James was going to drop and you 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.200 know that he that there were some concerns about him 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.800 as a player, and so you know, we were trying 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.120 to prepare people in the Draft show the potentially when 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:53.599 he went to when he went to the Chargers, the 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:55.880 Cowboys didn't flinch in the war room. You could see 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:57.760 and they and they weren't interested in moving up. They 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.359 were going to see what was happening. They respect the player. 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.080 But I believe all along that that Layton Vander he 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.760 was the man. Even when Green they moved up, Yeah, 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:07.919 they didn't flinch. I mean they said they got a litzit, 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:14.320 but yeah, that was his guy. Can you see how 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.640 different it was when they walked to the podium, thissue 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:23.760 for this guy, How they spoke, They just as a team. 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:27.840 The energy was there versus last year when they walked 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.880 to the podium. Yeah, well, hopefully Tacco will be better, 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.240 Hopefully will be but Cat and those guys will get 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:34.920 him playing. And I felt the fact that towards the 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:36.640 end of year he was playing better. But you're right, 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:40.280 the energy for vander Esh, I think was different. I 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.680 think initially some people that the media scouts didn't catch 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:47.200 up until later on about really, how you know this 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:49.480 guy's a good football player. I mean, but again, you're 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.960 gonna have to you if he gets in trouble, it's 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.520 gonna be taken on guys like you and not doing 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.599 it well enough with his hands. Once he does, once 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:58.839 he learns how to do that, this guy can run, 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.440 he can hit, he could finish, you know, just worry 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.720 about him physically at the point of attack a little bit. 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:08.680 That's why I woke up and I said, I didn't 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.280 Dert and James do. But I showed woke up saying, 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:16.920 and I knew that was going hi pain and veil. Yeah, 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.440 if we can just get one of the whole stools. Yeah, 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.360 depression will be taken off on linebacks. But hey, let's 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.600 move on bright. Yeah, I think that you know, and 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.160 too now I had if you look at my top fifty, 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.360 like I said, three of the three of their picks 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.760 were top fifty guys. For me, I love this next pick. 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.200 I love that Connor Williams. To me, I had Connor 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.120 Williams on my top fifty above Layton vander Esh Wow. 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:41.280 So to me, here at fifty, you get the opportunity. 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.480 This guy plays lined up as a left tackle. I 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.560 had seen his kid play at Coppelle. I used to 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.560 do the games on Friday nights for four years. The 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.160 senior year I got to see him play and he 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.920 was an outstanding high school player. So he goes to 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.560 Texas and you know, there's people that say that if 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:57.400 he would have come out of the draft last year, 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.760 then he would have been a guy that would have 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.840 gone very high in the draft. So went back Texas, 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:05.880 came in the draft this year. People were talking about him, 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.640 and he got got nicked up in the USC game. 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:10.000 They fill in the back of his leg and he 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.120 was done, and his tape wasn't as good. But I'll 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.080 tell you what. You watch this guy work out, you 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.600 watch the tape. This guy is an athlete. He got 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:21.080 a mainstreak. He is a finisher. I mean, he keeps 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.320 his hands, his feet, everything works really well together. He 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:27.400 doesn't appear to be rushed or hurried when he's blocking. 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.240 You know, he doesn't panic when he blocks. Everything is 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.199 really really smooth. I mean, he could be a force 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.840 when you down blocked with this guy. He could seal 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.520 that edge. He can bounce up to the second level. 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:41.080 He plays on his feet, he gets movement very easily. 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.400 He can reach block. There's teams that worked him out. 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.320 I was at the Pro day in Austin. They worked 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.000 him out as a center. They worked him out as 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.320 a guard. I think he's gonna play guard here. I 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.959 think he's gonna start at left guard. Here. You're talking 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.240 about two athletes on the left side of that offensive 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.640 line with him and Tyrn Smith. That will cause problems 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.199 for people because it's gonna be like one guy. It's 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.760 gonna be two guys playing his one. When they scoop block, 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:05.800 reach block. You know, you're not gonna have to worry 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.520 about Connor Williams like falling on the backside. You know, 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:10.240 Ron Larry was out a little bit early in his 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.680 career until he slimmed down his body and then he 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:14.240 got to where he was a little bit more athletic. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.360 And this team really ran the ball better because of Zeke. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.200 But they ran the ball better. When when when when 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.000 ron Le swimmed down and then they could get guys 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:24.960 up on the second level. We saw this guy. We 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:26.920 we actually brought him in here on here. Oh yeah, 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:30.480 I appreciate you guys doing that. He's he's very tyring smith. 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.480 There's no look at on him and fat, and he's chiseled. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:37.120 He's not a sloppy and he's what six four six 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.640 four six four and a half. Yeah, so yeah, he's 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.719 over three yeah, over three hundred pounds muscle. You know, 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.240 I'm gonna tell you something. You know, I'm sitting there 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:49.680 waiting on his picket. You know we used to work. Yeah, 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.240 sitting there and I'm and uh and thereby was some 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.160 iOS see this in and I ain't know what it 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.000 was going. Yeah, you know, because they had let a 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.280 lot of a few guys drop off the board. Yeah, 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.560 you know set and all of these guys don't. And 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:05.800 when they said come, I scream, man, I was like, 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.840 you watch this guy too, right, But no, I just 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.720 heard great things about him. He's a worker. He's a worker. 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:16.200 But what what amazed me is now my mind going 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:21.800 to the mode of we have a potential starter that 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.960 we got depth across the board again. Right, So if 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:28.079 we have injury to any one of our guys, we 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:31.880 are covered. Yeah. Should Yeah, those guys will help. We 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:35.640 should be covered. Man, And Alexander is supposed to be 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.400 that type of coach where he can make great adjustments 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:42.439 within the offensive line. We wow. Yeah. The next one 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:44.400 is Michael Gallop. This is the one I liked again. 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.440 This is another one of my guys in the top fifty. 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.400 And I've been looking for a receiver that can separate, 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.040 and this guy can separate. That's the whole idea with 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:53.640 this guy. I mean, I think that he's going to 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.720 challenge Terrence Williams for his spot. I think that you 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.640 need to find a way to like throw him out there. 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.880 Gonna be as many reps as possible learn how to 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:05.880 beat press. But this guy, he's a hands catcher. He 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.440 can he can make contested plays. He'll sit down for 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.240 the ball. He's good with the ball in his hands. 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:13.200 He'll adjust. I mean, he can run deeper routes. He 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:16.040 can push, he pushes off to get space. He can 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.120 drive off the line. I mean there's a lot of things. 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.440 He'll run through double teams. I mean, he's he's not 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.040 afraid to go inside to catch the ball. I like 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.200 this guy a lot because I think at the line 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.520 of scrimmage, he's physical, he knows how to get space. 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.679 But once he gets in route, he can you see 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.840 that burst to separate. And I don't think this team 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:36.840 had enough of those guys. I think that hurt them 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.720 a little bit last year because teams were covering and 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.040 it was making press Scott have to make a lot 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:44.960 of tight throws. And so this guy right here, though, 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.640 he's gonna he's gonna press Terrence Williams for his job. 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.760 There's no doubt a chance to start. Absolutely. Does he 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:53.760 remind you real quick? Nay? Who does he remind you 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.920 of that's currently in the NFL type of body or yeah, 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.640 he's he's six he's right at six foot, he's two 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.720 hundred pounds. I'm trying to think of a projection because 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:04.840 there's guys that I've kind of thought about that, you know, 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.160 I mean, I mean I was thinking about with Ridley. 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.680 He looked like Marvin Harrison to me. I have to 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.160 give that one a little bit of a thought, though. 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:17.760 I don't know hester think is somebody that separates down 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.920 the field, though, but it's physical down the field, and 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.160 that's that's the kind of the guy. I'll have to 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.160 come up with one on channel. I don't have a 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.400 comparison in my head right now because I'm thinking of 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:30.320 about a lot of different guys that are route runners. 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.640 But this team needed a route runner, and that's what 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:34.600 this guy can do. Do you have that in the book, 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.000 did Dane? Did Dane give us a comparison to who 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:41.520 he might be. Dane's really good about the comparison stuff 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:45.640 like that Pierre Garth song, he's a faster Pire Garwth song. 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.640 I'll take that. What I've heard him. What I've heard 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:52.280 is I would have thought, but don't even look at 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.080 his forty like Pierre Grason, you don't look at his forty. 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:59.640 He runs. He be good route runner. Yep. And so 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.480 when they got this guy and I didn't know nothing 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.960 about him, I just just went to diving in read 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.600 and trying to and nobody says anything bad. No, nobody 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.680 says anything bad. No. He you know, he played some 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.119 games like you can watch him play against some good competition, 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.600 Colorado and Alabama, and they've got a couple of both 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.240 those teams had pretty good corners. And you see him 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.560 have some success against those guys. So it always gives 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:23.200 me hope when a guy has a receiver has some 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:26.719 success against some teams that you know have pretty good cornerbacks, 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:31.080 pretty good defensive secondaries. How about our defensive end we 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.640 drafted with the fourth pick. Yeah, I loving him. Yeah. 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:35.760 Do you know a lot about him? Date? No, No, 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.280 I don't. You don't know any about him? And broughtest. 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:41.320 This is wrong for me to say, but the way 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.120 he's built in a little bit of film I've seen, 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.199 he looks like to me a defensive end. He is 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:50.240 a defensive end. I mean yeah, I'm telling you he 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.400 looks like he got he lucky slippery man. This guy 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:57.240 plays a lot of violence to him. I'll say, he 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:59.440 does a great job of finding the ball. And I'm 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.240 looking through my notes again. He plays really well on 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:05.040 the move. He stays active, you know, he worked through 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:06.920 the trash. Has to be careful not to get too 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.040 wide because times you see him get real wide and 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:11.719 they come up the field and not be able to 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.600 get back to the quarterback. And he plays a little 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.120 bit tighter. He can get the edge. He's got the 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.080 speed to get there, and he's got the speed to 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.640 turn it. So he's very physical for his size. He's 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:22.760 a good wrap up tackle. He can really close from 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:24.480 the back side. There are times you see the ball 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.400 go away and he's screaming from the back side to 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:29.680 get there. They tried to trade up for this kid 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.480 at the end of the third round. We all thought 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.800 they were trying to go for more of the various 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.760 more of the safety from Southern miss Nah, it was 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.920 Dorance Armstrong. They were trying to go get and so 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.440 that tells you a lot about him that they thought, Okay, 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:44.920 we need to get back in the round. They were 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.000 worried about him. And it's kind of funny. I think 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:51.080 the governor of Texas, Governor Abbott, said, nah, not stay, 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:55.240 just stay, and you know, Jerry asked him jokingly. Abbott said, no, stay, 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.200 this guy will be there. We'll get him. And Governor 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:01.200 Abbott was bringing him in every year. But but you 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.480 can move, to Scott, you can move this guy. It's 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:05.240 just that he was having a joke. He was having fun. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:07.680 But you can move this guy around the rush and 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.720 I like that about him. But he could really change directions, 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.160 can break a blocker down, and he has a burst 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:14.680 and I think those are all really good things. I 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.520 think you'll see that Nate's right. Physically, he looks like 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.280 a defensive end. And I could see somebody man waiting. 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.760 I remember d W D wear, I remember where came 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.320 in him. Man. I was like, what would you please 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.920 say on my outside album? Yeah, And I said, wow, 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:33.240 when he grows up, when he grows into a manhood, yeah, 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:37.240 he can be something special. And I just pray we 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:40.240 don't get him and go to saying, okay, let's put 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.440 him over there. Lef decons the man. Let's put him 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.880 on the right right and let him go. He was 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:48.800 one of your pet cats in the magazine. He was. 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.600 He was absolutely cats. Yeah, I'm a big fan of 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.120 this guy because again, the violence that he plays with 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.080 and the speed that which he plays with. I love 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.680 the burst about him. So I thought that was a 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:02.080 really really good pick. And you're talking about fourth round 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:05.200 at one sixteen. I think there's people that had him 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:06.800 a lot higher on their board, and I think that's 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.160 why the Cowboys were worried about trading up for him 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.200 late in the third. They didn't want that player to 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:15.560 go away. Very cool, And next tight end is this 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.800 is this a because of Jason Witten possibly. Yeah. I 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:20.760 think this is a guy that's really a true in 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.520 line player, and I mean in line. He lines up 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:25.440 as a y on the line of scrimmage. You know. 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:29.000 Stanford is known for their physicality, which they play with 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:33.160 their offensive line. David Shaw, the coach there, is really 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.560 a he's a hardball disciple. They like to run the football, 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.680 they like to be physical. They use a lot of 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.160 offensive linemen in their scheme. But this Dalton Schultz is 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:43.520 a guy. Now I'll tell you this though, he's a 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:47.600 big time holder. He will hold. I mean yeah, he 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:50.160 will know he stan I mean his hands get outside 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.320 the framework a lot, but in the Pac twelve they 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:54.200 don't call it. I mean he is I mean he 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.680 can hands get inside and hands will go outside. But 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.360 I could say he's a position blocker. He'll block down. 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.160 He really work. It's hard to finish his blocks. I 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.159 mean he can be could be a hit and miss 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:07.360 sometimes with defensive ends. But you put him on the outside. 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.399 When you have him blocking on the edge, I mean 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:12.760 he can he has the balance, the body control, the 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:16.760 contact balance, all that. When he gets a guy hands outside, feet, 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:18.960 all that works really well together. And then he turns 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.119 really quick. I'll tell you one of his best traits. 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.600 He could he could delay off the snap. He can 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:26.320 come and just kind of give it just a little 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.600 bit of hesitation. He lets the guy move and then 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:30.920 he quickly jumps on him and turns the guy. And 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.200 so he's got a real feel for how to play 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:37.639 in position though, So I like him about that. The 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:39.680 catching part of it, though, is he's kind of a 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:43.280 boot waggle catcher. He's not really a down the field player. 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.960 He's more of an underneath guy, safety blanket type guy. Yeah, 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:48.480 they throw him the ball. He makes a lot of 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.800 contested plays. He'll catch the football, catching in traffic, and 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.360 he helps on pass protection. That's kind of a thing 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.280 with him that that he does pretty good. When I 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.040 raise you deal in the book, you know, because that's 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.320 a good to wit me. You know, I'll bring the 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:04.040 book out in a minute. But the first thing I say, Okay, 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.640 this guy gotta you know, all his holding all as 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.280 it is. The guy will get Yeah, all the other 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.280 guys this guy, but he's good his hands. I mean, 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:15.639 he knows how to he can kind of work him 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:17.679 inside and then work him outside real quick. And then 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.800 and then position himself to make them. Don't you don't 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.760 you already have that kind of into Jeff Swain, Well, 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.200 they yeah, Swain, and then we need to see what 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.080 Blake Jarwin is. Blake Jarwin's gonna be that that that 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:31.639 type of guy too. They really liked Blake Jarwin, who 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:34.520 they brought up halfway through the season. Yeah, yeah, because 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:35.959 they were not They did not want to lose him 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.000 to Philadelphia, and so they brought him up. And we'll 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.960 see how these guys all play. But we'll get you 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:46.200 with just drafts. I was glad they didn't really reach 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:47.920 for a tight end. Was was he kind of picked 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:49.840 where he's expected or Yeah, that's the kind of where 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:51.639 I had him, right. I thought he was more like 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:53.760 a fifth, sixth round kind of guy. I think I'm 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:55.640 on my board. I think I had him on board 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:57.120 and the fifth round. And let me see if where 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.080 I had him. I had him the fifth round. I 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:02.320 had him above Will Disley and Fu mcgalley. That those 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:07.200 are my fifth round guys. Man. Mean when when when 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:11.760 Jason said, you know, retirement, it didn't bother me like 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.760 you bothered a lot of people, because I felt in 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:18.760