WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 121022 Why is CRT so Scary to Conservatives? (Part 2) 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:05.040 And now go my mic back. 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:05.680 You're like that. 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:11.840 Time we can strikes with waters from headquarters behind him 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:13.560 and the line the borders. 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:15.400 If you're just tuned in the civic cipher, I am 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.640 your host, Ramsey's job. He has always been Ramsey's job 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:21.880 most of the time. I'm Q or give or take. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:24.880 I think a couple of wins to the last. The 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:29.120 third Thursday got to carry the one man anyway, Uh, 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:30.160 be sure to stick around. 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:31.600 We got a lot more show in store for you. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:35.800 We're gonna be talking about American history that has been 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.760 rebranded as critical race theory. 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Full disclosure, 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:53.880 we are based in Arizona, and this gentleman is in Arizona, 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:59.680 and you know, normally we don't do that type of show. 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:03.040 We're talking about a place where you don't live or 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.680 may not live. We do have a couple of stations 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:11.720 in Arizona. Shout out to ninety eight three, both of them. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:15.000 But we feel like this story is relevant no matter 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:18.279 where you live, because this gives insight into exactly why 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.000 what has become known as critical race theory is under 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.240 attack and how those attacks can exist. Because if you 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.760 are of the thinking of me and Q, you might 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:32.600 think American history is necessary to explain how we got here, 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.479 why we are where we are, and what we can 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.640 do in the future, what we can avoid in the future, 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.000 how we can move in the future to create the 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.800 reality that we want. We feel like that education is 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:50.920 necessary and people that have arguments to the contrary sound 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.800 just like this one. And so when I read this, 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.479 I got surprised and I really felt strongly about sharing 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.479 it with you. So forgive the fact that it's feels 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:03.839 a little localized. I promise it's not and it's not 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:07.839 intended to sound that way, but I'll read. The guy 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:11.760 got elected here. His name is Tom Horne, and he's 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:16.080 elected to the Superintendent of schooling. So he's in charge 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:21.400 of the churance well not mine and not cues, but 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:26.840 you know, in general, and he has you know, a 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.960 plan of how he plans on changing things to you know, 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:35.600 create successful students. And some of them sound very sensible. 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:39.000 You know, he wants to you know, put an emphasis 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.880 on math, and you know, all these sorts of you know, 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:45.159 neat ideas. But when he got to topic five, he 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.039 had quite a bit to say. So this is copy 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:52.320 paste from him through the as central article that I read. 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:57.320 Number five eliminate critical race theory. Okay, so we're just 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.400 going to read and break it up, you know, and 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.279 react to it. All right, He says, I believe we 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:06.719 are all individuals, brothers and sisters under the skin, entitled 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.560 to be judged by what we know, what we can do, 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:13.960 our character, ability to appreciate beauty, and so on. Race 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:17.880 is irrelevant to anything. Critical race theory teaches the opposite 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:24.880 that race is primary. They divide students into oppressors and 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:29.080 oppressed based on what race they were born into, which 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:33.120 is not their fault. Here's a direct quote of what 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.760 the Tucson District talks students before I put a stop 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.200 to it in twenty ten. I got it directly from 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:43.720 their curriculum quote. Unlike traditional civil rights, which embraces incrementalism 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.400 and step by step progress, critical race theory addresses the 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:52.279 very foundation of the liberal order, including equality theory, legal reasoning, 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:57.960 Enlightenment rationalism, and neutral principles of constitutional law. I'll just 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.240 finish reading this and we'll go back wherever I go. 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.960 I ask liberals why the critical race theory movement would 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:08.279 be against enlightenment, rationalism or any of the other concepts 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:11.880 listed in the quote. No one knew. I believe this 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.680 was the biggest philosophical divide of any statewide race. Are 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.960 we individuals or are we exemplars of what race we 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:22.480 happen to have been born into. Some say critical race 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.880 theory is a graduate study not taught in K through 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:30.680 twelve schools. False. I have a list of two hundred 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:34.320 and fifty Arizona teachers who signed a shocking statement promoted 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:37.440 by the National Teachers' Union that if critical race theory 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.600 were banned, they would defy the law. They would not 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.040 have signed it if they were not already teaching it. 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.640 They come from twenty five school districts, including the largest ones. 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:50.640 Teachers must teach. Academics not use their power over a 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:57.400 captive audience to promote their personal ideology. That is unprofessional conduct. Now, 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:06.160 if you had never heard anything else except that, if 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:10.960 you didn't know anything else except that, that might sound measured, 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.320 That might sound diplomatic, That might sound like he is 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.280 taking time with both sides of that argument and is 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.560 landed in a place that is fair, that makes sense, 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.760 that it's based in a shared reality, and so forth. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:30.080 But if you're like Ramses, or like you who's holding 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:33.240 his head with his eyes closed right now, you realize 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:39.920 that that is the Those are the words of a 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.680 person who is If I were to put it kindly, 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.200 I would have to say, this man is ignorant. 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:50.240 Except he's absolutely not. And then this is kind of 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:53.520 where I end up angry. Talk to me, with so 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.440 many of our discussions with regardless to topics like these, 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.839 I wish he was ignorant, because I'd be way less mad. 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.840 Except he uses the language that he uses very intentionally, 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:08.559 because he's absolutely aware of the truth, right, the emphasis 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:13.800 on academics, math and science and these truths that don't exist, 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.520 like there's nothing different about us under the skin. Sure, 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.760 you and I have made the arguments multiple times on 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.360 this show and our discussions with people in person, that 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.800 there are far more things that we have in common 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:31.520 than that divide us. However, there are very very obvious 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:36.040 truths to the differences that come with this skin. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:37.520 We just talked about it in the first half of 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:37.840 the show. 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:41.240 Yeah, how about that. So pretending that they don't exist 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:45.600 so that you can push your ideology is just as 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:49.200 unprofessional as you would accuse. Our teachers are being like that, 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:53.160 And what our teachers are striking back against is not that, hey, 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.040 we're already teaching this stuff that don't take it away. 0:09:56.240 --> 0:10:00.120 It's no, you guys are using that to take make 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:03.400 away true American history from our student that way, and 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.840 that's what we're going to define because critical race theory, 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:12.680 as expressed by him is a postgraduate study, right, but 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:20.280 his party is using that very very They're using a 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:25.320 term that people aren't familiar with so they can define 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.600 it when they can define what this means to you, 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:29.840 and it's your first time ever hearing it, then you 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.079 can wholesale buy into it and stand next to them 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.520 opposed to something that's just on its face not true. Right, 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:40.560 And a lot of us our means to do scholastic research. 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:42.880 It's not that it doesn't exist, but why would we 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:44.800 when we can just click on this thing that this 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:46.920 guy said, believe it, and then feel the way he 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.120 feels and he counts on that. Right. So, anytime you 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.000 have people that use very, very measured language like this, 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:57.040 they purposely try to sound reasonable and not extreme so 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.920 that it's easy to buy into their rhetoric. The idea 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:04.160 he's ignorant, though it would be us being willfully ignorant. 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:05.160 Because we know that. I'll take you that. 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:06.960 I mean, like, there's no way that this guy doesn't 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:07.640 know what he's doing. 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.840 So I want to add on there, all right, So 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:13.600 let me go back to the top here eliminate critical 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:17.760 race theory. He starts this by saying, I believe we 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:23.920 are all individuals, brothers and sisters under the skin, entitled 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.880 to be judged by what we know, what we can do, 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:31.600 our characters and ability to appreciate beauty and so on. 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.440 He has is what he wants us to believe. Sure, 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.280 And then there's next sentence. I think that this is 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.080 important to race is irrelevant to anything. Okay, let me 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:43.000 stop right here in what world? 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:48.480 So? So okay, this is important? Okay because even if 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:55.160 they're even if we know that they are just saying 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.880 stuff that they know is unfounded to appeal to a 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:02.040 base that they themselves have stirred up, this boogeyman, this 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.000 fear inside of you know what I mean. They made 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.760 them afraid, then they gave them the solution. Right, we 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:12.880 have to still deal with that, even though it's not real. Right, 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:19.559 So I want to do that right now, Tom Horn, 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:25.120 you are describing your reality. I don't believe that. But 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.800 for the sake of argument, you're describing your reality. The 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:32.800 rest of us don't have that reality. Race is very 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:39.080 relevant to everything, Okay, Tom, You believe that we are 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.880 all individuals, brothers and sisters under the skin. I love 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:42.640 how that sounds. 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.200 No, you don't, well, hang on, let me, let me, 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:46.480 let me, let me have a moment with them. 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.120 Let me have a moment with them. I love how 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:54.560 that sounds, But I wish I felt that way. That 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.560 we are brothers and sisters. We come from the same creator. 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:04.080 We have the same agency, we have the same opportunities, 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:13.200 you know, we have the same mobility, the same resources. Yeah, 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:17.680 we're brothers and sisters in your mind in the real 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.080 world where we live. For the sake of argument, in 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.240 your mind, I know, in the real world where we live, 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:32.280 that's not true. That is your reality. And American history, 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:39.200 the way I remember it, gave everyone, myself included an 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:49.400 increased capacity to empathize, gave us more insight into the 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:53.959 wise questions that are very profound for a young child 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.959 to be asking himself, a young child in Compton, California, 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:01.040 to be asking himself, why do all the people on 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.640 TV look like this? Why all the poor people look 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.800 like that? And why the police are always doing this 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:11.040 to these people and they're always friendly to those people, 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:15.960 And why our outcomes more like this over here and 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:20.080 less like that over there. Nobody taught me anything about 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:26.160 critical race theory or American history in kindergarten. When I 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:30.640 went to school, I knew full well white people had 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:34.960 it better than black people, as illustrated by the fact 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:41.040 that at that time I remember vividly wishing I had 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.880 been born white instead of being born black. What in 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.440 the world is this. This is hard, this sucks, this 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:54.400 is scary. Okay. So whatever you think you're trying to 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.240 protect people from by educating them, I think that you 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:01.440 are creating the monster that you're trying to avoid with 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:08.600 this type of ideology. Because once I learned the whyse 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:12.880 once I understood okay, this led to this, and this 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:14.680 led to this, and then this led to this, and 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:18.640 then here we are. Oh, okay, God doesn't hate us. 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.000 We weren't just born to die. We weren't just born 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:27.400 to do the work for these people. We can have 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:31.720 nice things too. We just have different battles to fight, 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:37.120 we have different paths to walk. That changes a lot. 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:41.400 That's inspiring. I can't change the color of my skin. 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.440 I can't change the culture of my people. I can't 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.120 change our history. But if I know where I came 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:49.040 from and I know why I'm at where I am, 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:52.720 then I can see the progress and I can see 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:59.480 that progress as possible. This is my perspective, okay, And 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:03.880 what happened to me I learned that. In addition to that, 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:08.840 I learned how to empathize with other people as well. 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:14.240 Because I had to learn about Cesar Chaves, right, I 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.280 had to learn about. When I came to Arizona, when 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.160 I was young, I had to learn about all the 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.840 Native tribes, not just the ones in the Southwest, but 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:27.520 all over the country. Okay, that's American history. I learned 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.960 about how all those treaties were broken, how this country 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:37.520 was stolen, how right now we are sitting on unseated 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:43.000 ancestral lands of the Akima and Oadam peoples. Right now 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:47.360 you're hearing my voice come from those people's lands. I 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:51.800 learned that. I learned that Native American people aren't just 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:56.960 a part of history, that they're still alive right now, 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.920 still suffering from the things that happen, and that is 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.800 not their natural state. I needed to learn that because 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:09.560 without context, you just see what you have. You don't 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.880 know why they're there you and if in a young 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.920 mind you might think that's just the way it's supposed 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:18.840 to be, because that's the way it is. So you're 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:23.439 skipping over all of these things under this thin veneer 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:29.600 of you know what you what you say is protecting children. Right, 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:35.680 there's there's a point here where you say, uh. Critical 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.960 race theory teaches the opposite that race is important, race 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:46.120 is important, divide students into oppressors and oppressed. No, at 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:49.520 no point when I learned American history, or indeed when 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:53.679 I got into college and actually started to touch on 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:58.000 things that would be considered critical race theory, were was 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:05.320 anything ever categorized as oppressors and oppressed. From what I recall, 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:09.399 it was just facts. This group of people had the 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:13.040 legal right to own this group of people, and everybody 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.960 in the country who looked like this was owned at 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.679 a point, and then later they could be free, and 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.119 they could also be caught and sold right back in 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.639 this slavery. And then when we learned you know, we 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.800 talked about the Willie Lynch letter a few episodes ago. 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:33.959 Learning getting that historical context, I watched Roots when I 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:38.360 was in the fourth grade and Missus Bomb's class at 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:43.720 Solano Elementary School. That really happened. And then I realized, Wow, 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.480 you can't speak your language, none of this stuff. And 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:51.879 this was in the early nineties. So there's Africa, you know, 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:55.280 the medallions, there was leather ropes or whatever. I started 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.879 to get it. I started to make sense, there's something 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.280 to be proud of. We're not you know now days 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:02.320 when you see people searching for something to latch onto, 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.040 go ahead, Q, jump in right here. 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:10.479 It's it's unfortunate. I think I've told this story before. 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:14.080 I once upon a time lived abroad, and at dinner 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:18.240 with friends one night, was asked where I was from. 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:20.359 And if you've ever met me, you know the answer 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:24.080 to that question. I'm very, very proud voter to be 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:32.159 from Detroit, Michigan. This person seemed confused, but then thinking 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:36.920 I misunderstood the question, reposition the question, oh no, no, no, no, 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:42.159 where are your parents from, to which I answered, my 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:49.040 father Detroit, my mother making Georgia. The look on the 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.520 gentleman's face was even more confused, because he's like, in 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:54.520 his mind he has to be wondering, why doesn't this 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:58.760 guy understand that I'm asking him where he's from, not 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:04.280 where he was born. And someone else at the table 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:08.400 lifted their arm because they were also melanated, and rubbed 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:13.800 their skin, like, no, brother, where is this from? And 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:18.400 in that moment, I was embarrassed because I now understood 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:21.040 what he was asking me and knew that I had 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.919 no idea how to answer him. And that is the 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:30.159 truth for all of us, of millions of black Americans, 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:35.080 you know whose lineage traces back to slavery and slat country. 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:41.119 Having been denied our proper ancestry, our proper ethnicity, and 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:44.800 our proper culture. There are tens of millions of us 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:48.080 that are now looking for something that feels more regal, 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:51.560 that feels more dignified, and that's more to be proud 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:56.280 of than just being the children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, and 0:20:56.320 --> 0:21:01.840 great great great grandchildren of slaves. And it's why a 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:05.720 lot of this really really empty rhetoric is being appropriated 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:10.600 so quickly. Anything that makes us out to be something more, 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:15.560 we're just grabbing on to it and a need to 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:18.040 feel more proud about where we're from and to put 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.359 ourselves in a better position when it comes to the 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:24.400 hierarchy in this place, where we have been for large 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:28.960 portions of the country's history oppressed. You know, far more 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:34.080 years our people were owned and did the labor of 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:38.960 building this country then we've been free, quote unquote free 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:41.760 because even that freedom didn't come with anything that would 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.840 make you have the liberties and the autonomies of a 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:48.240 free person. No land, no money, no animals to farm, 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:50.800 no animals to help farmland that you did get, like 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:54.840 nothing that was supposed to come with freedom, No forty acres, 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:57.399 no mule, no money, no capital. And then if you 0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:58.960 were able to try to get a little bit of that, 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:00.560 we're going to restrict what you can do with it. 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:02.040 Where you can go, where you can eat, where you 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:05.040 can use the restaurant, all of these seemingly normal and 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:08.360 benign things. Now that we get the pain as progress 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:12.919 were once denied of us. Right, So it put us 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:16.760 in a really really troubling position of forever looking for 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:20.000 a history that we were not allowed to learn, right 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:23.879 because the victors get to propagate their own story or 0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:28.720 not tell it at all, or mister, it's not tell 0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:32.199 it at all. They've always been the heroes in this story, right, 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:35.640 we celebrated the Pilgrims. They're just trying to as we did. 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:39.080 We dressed up as Pilgrims and presented this story that 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:42.560 was blatantly false because the people that wrote that story 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:44.439 again get to be the heroes in the story. They 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:48.040 get to be the good guy. So it's you know, 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:52.040 it's it's always been a dangerous and kind of listen, 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:55.840 it'scouraging place to be in, but here we are. It's 0:22:55.880 --> 0:23:05.120 definitely a way of indoctrinating children intentionally, and one side 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:06.920 of this is we want to tell kids the truth. 0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:09.000 The other side is we don't want to tell kids anything, 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:14.240 And well it's we want to tell kids the opposite 0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:17.520 of the truth, a whitewashed version of the truth, or 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:18.639 you know, something like that. 0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:25.239 But listen, I needed to learn about housing discrimination. I 0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:28.880 needed to learn about redlining. I needed to learn about 0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:31.840 the War on drugs. I needed to learn about the 0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:36.320 way the GI Bill was not given to black vets 0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:38.400 when they came back from war. I needed to learn 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:47.880 about environmental racism. I needed to learn about judicial sentencing. 0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:51.680 I needed to learn about unfair policing. I needed to 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:54.400 learn about all that stuff we and everybody else needs 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:57.960 to learn about Tulsa, about black walls, that thing that 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.720 Tom Hanks expressed that he was pissed that he didn't 0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:03.879 know about it. He was an adult, and for a 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:07.439 man like this to come in and say, Nope, we 0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:10.000 don't want to make kids feel bad, I think that's 0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:12.240 an insult to kids and an insult to everyone else, 0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:15.280 and an insult to our future. But it's important you 0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:16.840 know that so you know how to deal with it. Right, 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:20.120 Let's move on. It's not for the way black history 0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:24.480 fact today's way black History fact comes to you courtesy 0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:27.560 of the Black Information Network Daily Podcast. Check out more 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:31.000 at binnews dot com. Again, we're talking about Philip A. 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:35.800 Payton Junior, aka the Father of Harlem. Start us off 0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:40.760 with a quote. Human lives honeycombed with little woombs, thick 0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:43.359 with human beings. That is how a white journalist and 0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:46.560 co founder of the NAACP, Mary White Ovington, described the 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.479 filthy tenements that black New Yorkers were relegated to at 0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:52.880 the turn of the twentieth century. As more rural Southerners 0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.800 arrived in the city, the teeming Manhattan slums in which 0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:59.000 African Americans are living, had become the most densely populated 0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:02.080 streets in the city, nearly five thousand people per block, 0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:06.280 according to one count as landlords rendered almost exclusively to 0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:10.280 white tenants. At the same time, construction had started on 0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:13.200 the subway line from Lower Manhattan to one hundred forty 0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.320 fifth Street in Harlem, a neighborhood where an enterprising black 0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.520 businessman named Philip A. Payton Junior would send the same 0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:24.240 slum dwellers, saving them from places where they faced discrimination 0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:28.399