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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale LOLLI, he is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 3: it is a Mike Tomlin Tuesday. So let's dig in

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Speaker 3: to what the Steelers head coach had to say today

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Speaker 3: regarding his roster, his quarterback situation. A lot of stuff

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Speaker 3: to dig into here. Let's get to the injury stuff. First,

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Speaker 3: two players who were injured in Sundays whenever the Chargers

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Speaker 3: will definitely be out on next Sunday against the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 2: That would be.

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Speaker 3: Cornerback Corey Trice, who was placed on IR today with

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Speaker 3: that hang or the short one.

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Speaker 2: They didn't announce that, okay.

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Speaker 3: And Alex Highsmith with his growing that's looking like about

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Speaker 3: a two weekend. Three for Alex Highsmith, maybe three weeks

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Speaker 3: to you know, if they want to plan it on

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Speaker 3: the safe side, so that.

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Speaker 2: Means probably not four or he would be in the

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Speaker 2: short one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, Nick herbigg and I believe with Highsmith as

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Speaker 3: well as another side, it's the other growing. He had

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Speaker 3: to groin injury in training camp this year. I believe

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Speaker 3: he injured the other groin this time around. Okay, So

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Speaker 3: Nick Herbig will get his first career start on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: It's a little aside.

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Speaker 3: Nick Krbrigg will join this show on Thursday, so you

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Speaker 3: want to be here for that.

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Speaker 2: He'll be joining us. I believe it four.

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Speaker 3: Five is around that time, So we'll talk to him

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Speaker 3: in the last segment of our number one of the Drive.

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Speaker 3: That'll be a little exciting for him to be getting

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Speaker 3: his first career start.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Warm with the knee, Isaac Samli with the pectorial injury,

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Speaker 3: could return to practice this week. We'll see how that goes,

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Speaker 3: I guess, and they probably air on the side of caution.

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Speaker 2: Those are three and zero.

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Speaker 3: Other guys are playing well, and we did get some

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Speaker 3: clarity on the whole thing with rotating left guards. Okay, yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin's saying that was the plan going into the game,

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Speaker 3: that they would rotate those guys, and he's gonna let

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Speaker 3: practice play out this week and see whether they rotate

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Speaker 3: him again or whether he sticks with one or the other.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it's tough when you're watching practice to kind of

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Speaker 3: discern those kind of things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it can be. There's no doubt.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're watching all the stuff happen out there,

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Speaker 3: and you're like, you know, okay, sometimes the offensive line

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Speaker 3: combinations that are out there aren't necessarily the starting combinations,

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Speaker 3: and then the guys start mixing second team guys.

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Speaker 2: It's a little crazy.

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Speaker 4: So I can't get perplexing or someone just takes a

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Speaker 4: series off or whatever. First take on the guard situation.

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Speaker 4: I look at that as a positive, like they really

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Speaker 4: like McCormick, yeah, Yeah, And because.

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Speaker 2: They did, they really like mccormb. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's the key here, is that

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Speaker 4: we know that they don't give rookies starting jobs or

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Speaker 4: you know, the free you know, free pathway to the

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Speaker 4: field if there's people ahead of them. And I don't

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Speaker 4: think Anderson's done anything wrong, but I think you're one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent right that they are really high on McCormick,

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Speaker 4: which is intriguing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And there were reports out there that Najee Harris

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Speaker 3: was in a sling yesterday. He's fine, Tom said he's

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Speaker 3: ready to rock and roll this weekend. Sometimes that's just precautionary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, might have been after the game or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a little sore after the game, and so just

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Speaker 3: keep it rested. We don't want you to move in

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Speaker 3: it for the next twenty four hours or whatever. And

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Speaker 3: he comes back on Tuesdays feels fine. Speaking of which,

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Speaker 3: so Mike Tomlins said today that he had just of

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Speaker 3: course the press conference at noon excuse me, saying he

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Speaker 3: had just met with Russell Wilson and team trainers. Wilson

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Speaker 3: not expected to practice in full on Wednesday this week tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: and the plan is still then for justin Field to

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Speaker 4: Okay, sounds like the same answer we've been getting in

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Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks. You know that nothing's really

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Speaker 3: Especially since and here's what you need to look for

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Speaker 2: Even if he's I would still think he doesn't not

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, but now once he gets that full participation,

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Speaker 3: now you let him have a full week of full

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Speaker 2: Hypothetical.

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Speaker 4: If it goes that way, if he's a full participant Friday,

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Speaker 4: do you think he's the two then potentially, Yeah, he

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Speaker 4: actually did the whole day. Yeah, that would make some sense,

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Speaker 4: you know, like he hasn't practiced yet, it's a whole

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Speaker 4: week in the game day in this uniform. But in

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Speaker 4: case Justin gets hurt or maybe even throw him out,

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Speaker 4: I mean who knows, Yeah he could. You could enter

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, And there seems to be some people out there,

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Speaker 3: Matt who are perplexed. In fact, Mike tom was asked today,

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Speaker 3: you know, why aren't you naming Justin Field as a starter? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he says, I'm not going to make any decisions about

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Speaker 3: that until Russell Wilson's completely healthy. I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: make any announcements regarding that. And that part makes all

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Speaker 3: the sense in the world. It's one hundred percent the

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Speaker 3: right move to make. Why make any kind of announcement

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I said, there's no no enforcing you. There's

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Speaker 4: not a league rule, there's not it's just inquiring minds

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Speaker 4: want to know. There's no reason for him to tell

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Speaker 3: No, and why paint yourself into a corner?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, what happens?

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Speaker 3: What happens if he says, you know what, I've been

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Speaker 3: so impressed with what Justin Fields has done. He's our starter,

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Speaker 3: and then the next two weeks he goes out and

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Speaker 4: He's bad, right, Yeah, I mean he Consistency hasn't exactly

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Speaker 4: been his forte through his career.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: Wilson's been a much more consistent player, much more established player,

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Speaker 4: And I don't even know in this case it's a

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Speaker 4: battle between the two. It's just we're happy with Justin

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Speaker 4: as it is. We're moving along, we're winning. Why change things?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: But at some point that this team is going to

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Speaker 3: whether it's by emergency.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure, and I would imagine there'll be a

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Speaker 4: a full participant designation. Yeah, in a whole uh, a

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Speaker 4: whole practice. So it does seem like it's trending the

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Speaker 4: we're all anxious, you know, for these things, like everybody

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Speaker 4: wants everything now now, right right, But there isn't a

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Speaker 2: There's not a deadline, there's not anything it has to

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Speaker 3: As you said, we didn't play the quarter of the

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Speaker 3: season yet, right, right, we're still in the first quarter.

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Speaker 2: Here, come on.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot to be played, right, and we all

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Speaker 4: get to be ahead of ourselves. And they're going to the

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Speaker 4: playoffs and this team stinks. This team's great, but there's

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Speaker 4: a lot to be played out. I want to get

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Speaker 4: back that herbig injury real quick. I would imagine j

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Speaker 4: in Leal's usage spikes for heavy league too, I mean,

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Speaker 3: So that's been one of the other big questions is

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Speaker 3: why isn't Leal getting any snaps? Well, he's been practicing

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Speaker 3: it outside linebacker primarily.

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Speaker 4: Well, one of the problems is TJ never comes off

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the defense is not having any long sustained drives

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Speaker 3: against it. Right, they played ten minutes in the second half.

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Speaker 2: The other day.

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Speaker 3: He's fresh the whole time he's playing. You know, almost

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Speaker 3: ninety percent of the snaps. You don't need a third

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Speaker 3: or you don't need the fourth guy right, the fourth guy,

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Speaker 3: the third guy. Herbig was barely playing right in the.

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Speaker 4: First two, like really before injury. I wanted to see

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Speaker 4: more Herbig, but put eleven guys on the field.

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Speaker 3: Right, and they were kind of even forcing that at

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Speaker 3: rushing right right, you know, just to get him on

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Speaker 3: the field right, almost like the McCormick situation. We really

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Speaker 3: like this guy, see how to figure out to get

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Speaker 3: him on the field, and you get to figure out, Okay,

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Speaker 3: who we taken off the right exactly. But I would

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Speaker 3: think Leal now is the three plays quite a bit, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: For his track record.

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Speaker 2: They haven't seen it obvious rundowns. I probably want Leal

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Speaker 3: Not a knock on her Big, that's just Leal is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a different beast. Yeah, altogether.

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Speaker 3: And this Indianapolis Colts offensive line is pretty good. I mean,

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Speaker 4: It kind of reminds me a little of Atlantis, where

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Speaker 4: they have a great guard. It's a good unit overall.

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Speaker 4: There's not a lot of star power. Better run blocking

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Speaker 2: But not.

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Speaker 4: Their tackles aren't day Bears, you know, super fleet of foot,

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Speaker 4: you know, elite athletes. You know, there's not a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I sat down and watch the Colts game against

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Speaker 3: the Bears. Not easy watch. I did notice this though.

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Speaker 3: Their runs were at a straight shotgun. Okay, there were

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Speaker 3: other times when they went pistol. Richardson is never under center.

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Speaker 2: No, he's never under center right.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing is, oftentimes, and this may change.

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Speaker 3: Against the Steelers, Taylor was on his left. They wanted

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Speaker 3: to run to the right.

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Speaker 3: Know it was the handoff as he's coming across and

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Speaker 3: the running right and then you could, you know, they

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Speaker 3: could they could move the line. Either they the line

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Speaker 3: they actually just had the guard pool Nelson Nelson Pole, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and follow him when they went to power situations is

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Speaker 3: when they were in behind Nelson.

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Speaker 2: least there wasn't that game. Yeah, maybe that's a Bear

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Speaker 3: Maybe they just look at the Bears that side of

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Speaker 3: You, No, they make a lot of silly mistakes too.

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Speaker 2: They're like new one really want to win. It was.

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Speaker 2: Mind you, this is through three games. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This is what the guy actually got.

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Speaker 4: Than what they should that's a monster amount. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: It's like day, you know. And that's exactly what the

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Speaker 2: Which I totally get.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a heavyweight fight, and hey were putting on

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Speaker 1: We Bleed Black and Gold. This is the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 1: Audio Network. This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lalli.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt we were talking

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Speaker 3: about Anthony Richardson before the break. He's the only quarterback

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Speaker 4: Along those lines, his average depth of target is the

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Speaker 3: I mean, so they throw deep, yeah, because that's all

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Speaker 2: Everything the same speed, Yes, absolutely.

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Speaker 4: And in week one everyone's raving about him because he

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Speaker 3: For one, He's one of these guys who's shooting a

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Speaker 4: It's amazing. So, I mean, here's some of the numbers

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Speaker 4: know that his yards per attempt is six, his average

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Speaker 2: His time to explain back, he's a battleship quarterback.

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Speaker 3: He's playing battleships miss miss miss.

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Speaker 2: And they're ugly, you know.

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Speaker 2: He was just four of eleven.

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Speaker 4: I mean he's only completing thirty three percent of his

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he could. He should have more. He should

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Speaker 3: he throws ninety to home. Yeah, he's throwing ninety at

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00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,120
Speaker 3: you and you're you're twenty feet closer than the guy

442
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 3: at home and then it throws all over the place

443
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 3: and you're trying to catch it.

444
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 2: It's a great way of putting it.

445
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like a ground ball to the second

446
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,160
Speaker 4: basement that brings you to the first basement.

447
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 2: And instead of doing this, you know, little short, you

448
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 2: wind up and fire it at him. You know.

449
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 3: I mean that's really what's happening here. And they're not

450
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,119
Speaker 3: in the middle of the min either, you know. I

451
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 3: mean it's crazy. So we just talked about the Steelers

452
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 3: run defense and what it was producing under expected in

453
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 3: terms of yeah, yeah, yeah, in terms of completion percentage

454
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 3: over expected. You just mentioned Justin Field has been really

455
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 3: good at that this year.

456
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

457
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson is the worst in the league at minus

458
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 3: eleven point three. Wow, So he should be completing over

459
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 3: sixty percent of his pass.

460
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,400
Speaker 2: Exactly because out and he bounces it off their face mask.

461
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, at one point he's going to stick one

462
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 3: in somebody's face mask.

463
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 4: It's to that point, yeah, I mean, because he has

464
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 4: a massive arm. I mean, arm strength is off the charge.

465
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 3: But the other thing that I noticed is oftentimes he

466
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 3: drops down side arm and the ball just sails on him.

467
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 3: Just like I don't understand if I'm the quarterback coach

468
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 3: out there, Anthony, stop dropping down side arm because every

469
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 3: time you do, the ball takes off on you.

470
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 4: He needs extensive off seasons with true quarterback coaches, gurus

471
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 4: that break down every biomechanic and all that stuff, because

472
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:44,360
Speaker 4: it's everywhere.

473
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 3: And I get that sometimes, Matt and We've talked about

474
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,880
Speaker 3: this running quarterback that happens with running quarterbacks that when

475
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 3: they throw badly, it looks really bad because oftentimes they're

476
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 3: on the move and they don't get their feet set.

477
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Lamar had a lot of that early on.

478
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 2: But even when he's in the pocket. Oh right, it's

479
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 2: that's the case.

480
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, He's not a plasman thrower or a touch thrower whatsoever.

481
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,479
Speaker 3: No, it really reminds me of watching Joe Milton at

482
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl this year. I could see that and

483
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 3: Joe Milton was.

484
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 2: Oh, look at that.

485
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 3: He just threw the ball eighty five yards in the air. Yeah, well, okay, wonderful.

486
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 3: That's wonderful. That's fantastic. Not a lot of people on

487
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,199
Speaker 3: the planet can do that.

488
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's also low on the list of quarterback

489
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 4: traits you need to succeed in this league.

490
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So the thing for me this week running him

491
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Speaker 3: a ton. No, he didn't run at all in that game.

492
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 3: There was like one maybe designed run.

493
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you can you can kind.

494
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 4: Of live with that if he's the best rushing quarterback

495
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 4: in the league, you know, I mean there's one.

496
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 3: But it's almost like they're telling him, Hey, we don't

497
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 3: have to go to Flacco because we would have to

498
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 3: completely blow the offense up.

499
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

500
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Speaker 4: I think he has an unbelievably long leash, you know.

501
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 4: I mean, Flacco came in and comeback Player of the

502
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 4: Year and all that, but that's a totally a weird backup.

503
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 3: They would they would completely have to destroy their entire offensive.

504
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 2: Playbook, right right. I never understood the signing. They're gonna

505
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: have Flacco go and go from a shotgun the entire game.

506
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 3: You're gonna get under center, right, They might be better

507
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 3: off at Flack over the quarterback.

508
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: In a way.

509
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 3: I mean Michael Pittman would say, thanks absolutely. I mean,

510
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 3: I can you can see the frustration growing with him.

511
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 3: There was one throwers or horrendous Yeah, there was a

512
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 3: throw to the sideline. I think it was to downs. Yeah,

513
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 3: where he's wide open out to the left and he

514
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 3: air mild it. Richardson throws it ten feet over his

515
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: head and you see downs just look back at the

516
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 3: What was that like, I'm wide open right, And.

517
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Speaker 4: To your point, and I mentioned Lamar. I remember I

518
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 4: did this study after Lamar's rookie year, but he was,

519
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 4: you know, a part time player.

520
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: And then he takes it over and YadA YadA, and

521
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: came to the.

522
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Speaker 4: Conclusion that he's he's not as bad accuracy wise as

523
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Speaker 4: you think because of the reasons you said, because some

524
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 4: of his misses ends up in the seats.

525
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I mean not even close.

526
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 4: They look bad, they look real bad, but they still

527
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 4: counts it incompletion.

528
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Speaker 2: Nonetheless, richards isn't in that mold.

529
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: No, he misses, Yeah, he misses, and he misses a lot,

530
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 3: and he misses the layups. Uh. That's that's the one

531
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 3: that's really you know, when you're throwing the ball five

532
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 3: feet from the line of scrimmage and you're overthrowing right

533
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 3: the lot where you're throwing.

534
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 2: It so hard he can't catch it.

535
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 4: And by all counts, he's a hard worker and his

536
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 4: teammates like him and all that stuff. But you're gonna

537
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 4: see a lot of palms in the air, you know,

538
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 4: like you talked about with his receivers. It's hard enough

539
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 4: to get open this league, and Pittman knows he can. Yeah,

540
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 4: and he's had a good career except for when this

541
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 4: guy's throwing to you know.

542
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I'm the Steelers, it's gonna be really you

543
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 3: mentioned Taylor, He's what scares me.

544
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 2: He's what scares you.

545
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 3: The other thing, the only other way that this offense

546
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 3: can consistently beat you, and I say consistently is if

547
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 3: Richardson hits a.

548
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: Couple of these bombs.

549
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: Now, so you almost have to keep making Fitzpatrick back

550
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: in the deep middle right and say to the rest

551
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 3: of the other ten guys, you guys got to stop

552
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 3: the run, like make it. We can't have make a

553
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 3: coming down into the box every time, because they're gonna try.

554
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 3: They're gonna take some shots down the field.

555
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 4: Even along those lines like this is not a heavy

556
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 4: cover two team, and you don't have to be able

557
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 4: to make it necessarily, and you want that other guy

558
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 4: close to the line, but I might play more soft

559
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 4: zones and if he can death by a thousand paper

560
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 4: cuts you down the field, so be it.

561
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 2: Because he is that's just not who he is. He's

562
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 2: never shown that. No, you know, right, it's just not

563
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: going to beat you that way.

564
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: The only way that they can consistently do it that

565
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 3: way is if they're running the football consistently, and as

566
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Speaker 3: we just mentioned in the previous segment, I don't think

567
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 3: anybody's going to run the ball consistently against his defense.

568
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 4: Right, This will probably be the Steelers' toughest test. I mean,

569
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Speaker 4: I do think on paper, I know Dobbin's numbers were crazy,

570
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 4: but I think Taylor's a better player. Yeah, I think

571
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 4: their lines more accomplished. They're obviously their quarterback is a threat.

572
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 4: I mean, this will be the Steelers' toughest test run

573
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 4: defense wise, But they've been awesome, awesome, Yeah, yeah.

574
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's going to be an interesting chess match.

575
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 3: He has only been sacked four times despite holding the ball.

576
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: His time to throw his two point ninety seven seconds,

577
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 3: so he's still holding.

578
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 2: The thing is they don't run any plays. Yeah, well

579
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: there's that too.

580
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 3: He's also a big guy back there.

581
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: He is a big guy. Well, he can shrug people off. Yeah,

582
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: I mean he's hard to he's hard to take, hard

583
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: to get on the grounds.

584
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 4: There's no doubt about that. I forget where it is,

585
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 4: but I mean it just shows how few plays they run,

586
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 4: because their time of possession is unbelievable.

587
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: He's got eighty four dropbacks in three games, and just

588
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 3: looking at that in terms of overall dropbacks in the league,

589
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 3: that is, he's got to be the only guys who

590
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: have less than that going into this week are Tua

591
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 3: who's hurt, missed a game, Bryce Young who got benched

592
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 3: he has, yeah, Derek Carr, we know they weren't throwing

593
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: the football.

594
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were up by a million in a couple

595
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: of those games.

596
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 3: And Justin Herbert who got hurt.

597
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah, really he's last, I mean cars last, but

598
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: but he's right there.

599
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, So again I might even mention this yesterday.

600
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 4: I mean, Steelers are second in time of possession, not

601
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 4: only the Colts last.

602
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: But they're three minutes last. Yeah.

603
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 3: Then then thirty first, he was it twenty four minutes

604
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: a game or something like that.

605
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 2: Twenty four minutes a game is Atlanta. They're at twenty one.

606
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 3: Oh twenty one minutes a game.

607
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's hard to get sacked a lot

608
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: when we're on the field. Yeah, right, So it's unbelievable.

609
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: But again, that's that's because they are so reliant on

610
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: the big play, right, Like, even when the offense is

611
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 3: doing well, it's because he threw one. He threw a bomb,

612
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: and it's usually to uh the kid.

613
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: From Cincinnati, Yeah Pierce.

614
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 3: Yet Pierce sounds was out the first two games.

615
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, when he came back, Mitchell got he got, he

616
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 4: got the boot, he got thrown to the fourth. I

617
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 4: thought it might be Pierce, but Pierce is the long linear.

618
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 2: He's got three catches to forty plus yards this year. Yeah.

619
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like to your point, like some of those wow

620
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 4: throws we were talking about week one were to him,

621
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 4: and therefore you didn't need many plays or time of possession.

622
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: So that's out there.

623
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 4: I mean, Pierce is a former volleyball player that was

624
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 4: a really good athlete.

625
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 2: To get it straight line though, I mean he's running

626
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: deep routes. Oh, he's just running goes. Yeah yeah, I mean.

627
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 4: He's tall and it's great vertical and a long speed guy.

628
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 4: Downs is kind of interesting though, because they haven't had

629
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 4: the move the chain slot machine.

630
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: I don't think it matters.

631
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 4: You need a Brady and Welker, the Brady parts important

632
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 4: distribution and accuracy to be able to make the layups right.

633
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 4: And Pittman's just out there. It's frustrated, to say the least.

634
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 4: And I assume he'll get a lot of Porter or two,

635
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 4: which I don't think Pittman's numbers all of a sudden spike.

636
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: No, No, I would think.

637
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 4: We tot a lot of fantasy. He's been unusable, like

638
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: his last eight games.

639
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, it's been really bad.

640
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: But when you're in that category, you're in that that

641
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: same stratosphere. Uh, you know, looking at the completion percentage

642
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: and things of that nature.

643
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: What's crazy is watching that Bear's Colts game going in.

644
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 4: They were like thirty one and thirty two. Yeah, in

645
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: completion percentage. I mean, and he's down there with throw

646
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 4: like fifty eight times.

647
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: He's down there with Trevor Lawrence who's completing fifty two

648
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: point eight percent of his passes. And boy, that looks

649
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: like the worst contract that anybody's given out.

650
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: Man, what a nightmare they are right now.

651
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: If that's not the worst contract given out, Bryce Young

652
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: is fifty five point four percent.

653
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: He got benched.

654
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Deshaun Watson's completing fifty seven point eight percent of

655
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: his passes, he's I mean, you don't want to be

656
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 3: in this company.

657
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: No under sixty nowadays with all the really.

658
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: Under under sixty three percent is like yeah.

659
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean under sixty is a d I mean yeah,

660
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: a failing mark is a f on their paper, you know.

661
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: I mean it's the rules.

662
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: Are set up for you to complete passes.

663
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, in a in a big way.

664
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 4: And even to defend Richardson even less, everyone's going to

665
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 4: fear that deep ball, the big arm throw, shrug off

666
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 4: at tackler, old school ben, big physical guy. They're gonna

667
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 4: give you a lot of the underneath stuff, you know

668
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like they're not game planning to take

669
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 4: that away as we mentioned. I mean, soft zones don't

670
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 4: compete over the top, play the run first.

671
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: You know.

672
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 3: I've not been a Richardson fan the entire Like I

673
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 3: was not high on him in the draft last year.

674
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: I haven't been high on him, and I feel like

675
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 3: he's been a creation of the fantasy football crowd that.

676
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 4: Oh he's good in fantasy. Well he's questionable lately. Yeah,

677
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 4: but he's much better in fantasy than he is in

678
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 4: the real world.

679
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 3: I mean, he's nowhere like the Steelers have a quarterback event.

680
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: It's this weak clear one clearly.

681
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 4: I mean, one guy is the top of league and

682
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 4: completion percentage, one guys at the bottom. Yeah, and they're

683
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 4: both well, one has a really high average up target,

684
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 4: one is a really low one.

685
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: But one's efficient and moving the chains.

686
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 3: And the other guy, justin fields, is making his layoups

687
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: very much so, very much so better than any point

688
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: of his career.

689
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and he's not making the mistakes and

690
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 4: the turnovers and the fumbles, and yeah, I think that's

691
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 4: a clear advantage.

692
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that doesn't mean that can't blow up this week

693
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 3: or of course.

694
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 4: I mean, but these are both voladi old young guys

695
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: with a lot of ability and not a lot of

696
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 4: track record. Richardson could win a game handled you know,

697
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 4: single league. Yeah, you know, no doubt. But there's counting

698
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 4: on him to do it is vul.

699
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: I mean, he's, as you mentioned, he's he's made seven

700
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: starts in the NFL. I think he started like twelve

701
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 3: games in college. Maybe less, might have been less than

702
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: might have been ten.

703
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: Injury, of course, I mean that's the other thing he

704
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: hasn't said on the field. I think that's why they

705
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: don't want him running this year.

706
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 4: I'm thinking that too, you know, does that come from ownership?

707
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 4: Like we at least need to know if he can

708
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 4: win with this guy or not. I can't have fifteen

709
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 4: design run.

710
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 3: He doesn't know how to protect himself. He's a big guy,

711
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: but he's.

712
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: A really good runner. Yeah.

713
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 4: I mean it's you know, when they're down by the

714
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,719
Speaker 4: goal line, you've got to be afraid of it all

715
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 4: the time. But they're not designing much for him.

716
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: No, and you don't want that to break out and

717
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: happen this week, Like that is a way that you

718
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: could lose this game. Yeah, if he goes out and

719
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: runs for one hundred yards.

720
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he can't bust a long one. He can

721
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 4: put his shoulder down and drag tackler. Yeah, he's at

722
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 4: a large.

723
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 3: I don't want my defensive backs having to tackle him

724
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: down the field.

725
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 4: I'm curious to talk to you Monday. You don't get

726
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 4: down on the field and in road games, do you?

727
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh? Do you? Yeah?

728
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: I mean coming in and stuff like that. I'll be

729
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: walking through the tunnel and see guys.

730
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 4: People that have seen him in person say he's a specimen,

731
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 4: Like you're shocked that he's not a defensive lineman, you.

732
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, I mean he's kind of Cam Newton like

733
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: in terms of the size.

734
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 4: Cam Newton, Josh Allen, those guys everyone says they're bigger

735
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 4: than they are on TV, you know what I mean.

736
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: I mean, but I'm kind of used to that.

737
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: It's spent eighteen years covering Ben Roethlisberger. That's this guy's

738
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: like two seventy though to sixty five ish, I mean yeah, well, hey,

739
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 3: yeah there were times, yeah, there were times he's fun.

740
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

741
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: I know the list of way it was like to

742
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: forty A fair amount of snaps he took.

743
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, good point. You know, the beard, it carried a

744
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: lot of weight. Yeah. Jerome was two thirty two, right,

745
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: and something like that too.

746
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 3: He was always listened at two fifty.

747
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take the over on that. Yeah, there were

748
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: a lot of times that yeah. Yeah, but yeah, so taking.

749
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: Richardson, I get it. I mean there's there's there's a

750
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: certain amount of Boy, if he hits a couple of

751
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: long ones on you, you're in trouble.

752
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: If he breaks out and runs the ball on you.

753
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: But if he doesn't, if he plays the way that

754
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: he's played the first three weeks and doesn't run.

755
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: It's hard for them to win.

756
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 3: It's hard for them to win unless unless they're playing

757
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: somebody who's making equal mistakes as Caleb Williams did last week.

758
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams just yeah, I see all this stuff on it.

759
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams throw all the all this yardage last week.

760
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 3: It was all garbage.

761
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 4: It was all garbage. And they have one of the

762
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 4: worst running games in the league. I don't know why

763
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 4: they signed DeAndre Swift.

764
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: He's bad.

765
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 4: Their centers the really really bad, and they having him

766
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 4: throw fifty eight times. I think it was or something crazy,

767
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 4: which is not smart.

768
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean he had a good game. Doesn't mean it's

769
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 3: a good game. He was awful in that game. But

770
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: like having Richardson throw fifty eight times.

771
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 4: Yeah and again, Yeah, the Colts won, but it was

772
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 4: not that impressive.

773
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: No, it really wasn't. As you said to start this off,

774
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 3: that was a tough watch.

775
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 4: It's a tough watch, Like what's going on here. I mean,

776
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 4: I'm sure coaches are pulling their hair out. I designed

777
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: this for you and you can't even complete it, you know.

778
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 3: But I mean, we have seen some there have been

779
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: more upsets already in this year, this season of the

780
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 3: NFL that you just like look at it and go,

781
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: how did that happen?

782
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot this past weekend. I mean

783
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: quite a few.

784
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 4: And yeah, right or wrong, Richardson would have been a

785
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 4: fifth round pick fifteen years ago.

786
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

787
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 4: I mean, like that's the modern age is you want

788
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 4: those athletes, and some of them like Allan have hit

789
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 4: but man, it's a crap shoot.

790
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: It really is. I mean most of the time.

791
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: Guys don't get more accurate in the NFL most of

792
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 3: the time, right, Like you could you could talk about

793
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 3: Justin Fields and say, well, his accuracy is first couple

794
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: of seasons was a problem. But when you watched him

795
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: at Ohio State, he was extremely athletic.

796
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

797
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson was extremely accurate at Louisville.

798
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

799
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 4: They ran a pro style offense that did old school

800
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 4: drop back stuff. Yeah right, Alan wasn't and now he is.

801
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 4: He's one of the rare ones.

802
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 3: Absolutely, let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

803
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the drive here

804
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: on Steelers Audio Network and of course, you can listen

805
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: to the Drive five days a week from four to

806
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 3: six pm. You can also right here on the well

807
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 3: where you're listening now, on whatever formats you're doing that,

808
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 3: or you can watch it on YouTube. But you can

809
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: also download the Steelers mobile app and listen to the

810
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: show that way downloaded bright to your phone. So that's

811
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: always nice. But we're gonna get to a break. He

812
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 3: is Matt Williamson, I'm Dale Lally. We'll be back with

813
00:35:52,719 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 3: more right after this, and welcome back. I'm Dale. He

814
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 3: is Dean, Matt Williamson and Matt. One of the reasons

815
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: why I think the Steelers might want to slow play

816
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: things with Russell Wilson is that in the next two

817
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 3: weeks this week against the Colts, next week's against the Cowboys,

818
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 3: they faced the NFL's two worse run defenses they do.

819
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 3: The Colts giving up one hundred and seventy nine rushing

820
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: yards per game fifteen runs, mind you.

821
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 2: We've only played three weeks.

822
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, fifteen runs of ten or more yards, wow. Five

823
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 3: per game. The Cowboys have given up seventeen runs of

824
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: ten or more plays.

825
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: Wow.

826
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 4: I mean that's they're explosives too. It's all like they

827
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 4: are getting pushed off a line of scrimmage and run

828
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 4: through huge holes. But the back seven isn't making it.

829
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: They're not making plays either. No, you look at these

830
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: Colts linebackers.

831
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 3: They run around and they're fast, and the safeties are active.

832
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: But they have to be. They have to be.

833
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 4: But I mean, I don't even think that they're all

834
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 4: That is where I was going with it, at linebacker

835
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 4: and safety, and they try hard, they just.

836
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: Don't make much of an impact.

837
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 3: This is why the tackle is not an official NFL statistic,

838
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 3: and it means nothing to me. Yeah, when guys were

839
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: this guy at one hundred and sixty tackles last year,

840
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 3: he must be good.

841
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: He's good. That just means he's very He's the middle

842
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: linebacker on a bad defense, but nobody protecting the ball

843
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: run bright at him.

844
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, how many of those tackles are ten yards down

845
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: the field.

846
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 4: Frankly, I don't know it would matter if it was

847
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 4: the league's best run defense. The Steelers might not change

848
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 4: their approach on offense either way.

849
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: I mean, but these next two weeks they're gonna get

850
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: a lot of carries.

851
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I absolutely believe that unless somehow Dallas I don't

852
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 4: think Indy could get up like a twenty point lead,

853
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, I don't think Indy is capable of that.

854
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dallas could do that with the hot and land

855
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 3: ripping you up or whatever. But I don't think that

856
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: you can't afford. And this is something Tom mentioned today

857
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: because our colleague him Benz, asked him about do you

858
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 3: want to see more big plays early in the game,

859
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 3: because Tom Will mentioned something about we need to get

860
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: going quicker earlier, and Thomas said, no, I don't want

861
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 3: to see us go three and out the first two

862
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 3: series like we did in this game, because then you

863
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 3: start losing the field position battle on Yeah, yeah, he said,

864
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: I want to see us convert. I want to see

865
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: us convert from first downs early in the game. And

866
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: you know, if you're going to try to win that

867
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 3: battle of attrition, especially against a team like the Chargers,

868
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 3: you can't go three and out, three and out, three

869
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: and out because as we saw after the second three

870
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 3: and out, the Steelers had they get a punt and

871
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 3: it was a good punt by Corlis Weightman, but they

872
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 3: were so deep in their own territory that you still

873
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 3: they end up giving the ball up at the forty

874
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: and then they get you know, they go down to score.

875
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: You can't do that against these teams, because you do

876
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 3: that against Dallas, you get Dallas a short field, Dallas

877
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 3: is going to score.

878
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, I mean Prescott's a professional quarterback and

879
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 4: he's going to move a football. And yeah, you know

880
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 4: you're a hundred percent right real quick on the Colts

881
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 4: run defense.

882
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: The game you need to watch is two weeks ago

883
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: in green Bay.

884
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 3: I mean, green Bay just ran it down their throat.

885
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: That was the first game with Willis no Love.

886
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 4: I mean, they're a favorite going into green Bay and

887
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 4: they got embarrassed.

888
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 2: I mean it was just like, we're running it again.

889
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 2: We're running again.

890
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 3: Josh got thirty carries, thirty carries for one hundred and

891
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: fifty yards and last week and he's very much like

892
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 3: Naugey Harris.

893
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 2: They're like identical runners.

894
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 4: That's a good point, I mean in terms of style

895
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 4: and how they're gonna be used and work course ability.

896
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: But the Bears don't run on anybody either.

897
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 4: You know, you mentioned the Raiders and Cowboys having the

898
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 4: worst run games in the league. Chicago's probably in that

899
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 4: neighborhood too. Yeah, they don't move anybody. Their backs aren't

900
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 4: particularly good. They're starting to go to Roshawn Johnson, so

901
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 4: they just don't run period. But most teams I think

902
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 4: would have gouge the Colts last week.

903
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there were holes there. Oh yeah.

904
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 4: I mean, if they play run defense like they did

905
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 4: against Chicago, they'll be in for a really long day

906
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 4: against Steelers.

907
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: So looking at the league tackle leaders, as I mentioned,

908
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 3: this is this is why the top nick cross their

909
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 3: safety legs the league in tackles with thirty nine, which

910
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 3: isn't what you want.

911
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: It's not what you want.

912
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 3: No.

913
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: EJ.

914
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: Speed, one of their linebackers, is a third with thirty four.

915
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: Speed's a bit of a misnomer with him. He's a

916
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 2: bad athlete.

917
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 3: No, it's not like n Zaire Franklin is tied for

918
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 3: fourth with thirty three tackles. They have three guys who

919
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: already have more than more than thirty tackles in three games.

920
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, again, that.

921
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean that they're playing well. No, doesn't mean they're

922
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 3: always on the field. They can't stop the run. They're

923
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: very vanilla with their coverages and their best players out

924
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 3: of the year.

925
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's it's rough. I mean, their corners

926
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 4: aren't particularly good either. Brents is their best guy.

927
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: He's out.

928
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: You can definitely go after the cornerbacks.

929
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 4: Absolutely. Yeah, their pass rush was good against Chicago, and

930
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 4: I really like Law too, and pays the first round pick.

931
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 4: So their edge guys are decent. I mean, they're ascending,

932
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 4: they're young, they're very talented. I could I could see

933
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 4: a lot too, even winning Defensive rook of the Year.

934
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 4: But all in all, their defense isn't super hard to

935
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 4: play again, especially with Buckner out.

936
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: No, I'm just looking here. I don't know that they blitz.

937
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: Know what you're gonna get. You're gonna get a lot

938
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: of Cover three. You're gonnat a lot.

939
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: Of Yeah, they blitzed twenty four point one percent of

940
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: the time, which is on the low end. That's that's

941
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: twentieth in the league. How about this, the Steelers blitzing

942
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 3: fifteen point two percent of the time. That's thirtieth in

943
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 3: the league.

944
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: I know, I know they're not.

945
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: Blitzing at all. No, this year they don't have to.

946
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: They don't have to.

947
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: They're getting pressure with four more often than not. Actually,

948
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: I saw a stat today they've actually gotten more pressure

949
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 3: with the four man rush than when they've sent an

950
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 3: extra guy.

951
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 2: Really I could understand that. I mean because.

952
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 3: Beingie Bishops, your extra defensive back, I don't know that

953
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 3: he's gonna be real good at it. The inside backers

954
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 3: we saw, you know, the Landom Roberts get a sack

955
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: on Sunday. They can blitz, but you don't need to.

956
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 4: You don't need to, right, And I thought they'd blitz

957
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 4: more against Herbert.

958
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: So they're blitzer. It was up a little bit in

959
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 2: that game.

960
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I wanted those interior guys, the linebackers, you know,

961
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 4: coming through the A gaps.

962
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: Because you can yeah, you can stop to run as well.

963
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: And when it's blitzes.

964
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But I was looking from

965
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 4: the blitz numbers. I can't exactly I find them. Oh,

966
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 4: here we go on third downs. Only the Bengals blitz

967
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 4: less on early downs. Only four defenses blitz less than

968
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 4: the Steelers. Yeah, and so they don't need to.

969
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 3: And here's the thing, in terms of total time to

970
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: pass despite not blitzing, the Steelers are giving They're allowing

971
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 3: two point four to seven seconds, which has to be

972
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: near to the top of that's a second behind Cleveland.

973
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 3: Cleveland has blitzed thirty point six percent of the time,

974
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: so almost double actually what the Steelers have blitzed.

975
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,479
Speaker 2: And the Steelers are right.

976
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: There with the Browns in terms of overall pass rush

977
00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 3: because they're getting.

978
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: That quick too. Yeah.

979
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so because it has to. If it doesn't,

980
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: your quarterback is going to be on his back.

981
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

982
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, the Steelers pass rush has been elite. Their

983
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 4: run defense has been an elite I mean the defense.

984
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 3: Pass coverage has been the run defense has been elite.

985
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

986
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's the best d in the league,

987
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 4: and it's hard to find weaknesses right now.

988
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 2: It really is.

989
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 3: And if we were doing Colts Nation Radio right now,

990
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 3: I'd be like, I don't like this matchup.

991
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 4: I don't either, And I guess my approach would be, well,

992
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 4: the Steelers aren't putting up a ton of points. We

993
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 4: should be able to give it to Jonathan over and

994
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 4: over and over and hope the damn breaks.

995
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 3: And yeah, it might be, which is kind of to

996
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 3: Tomlin's point. I want to see us put points up earlier. Yeah,

997
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: so we can kind.

998
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 4: To flow it things a little bit more. But you

999
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 4: also got to be like, well, we need to win

1000
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 4: the time possession battle. For that to happen, we need

1001
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 4: to win the turnover battle for that to happen. Through

1002
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 4: three through three weeks, there's no evidence that either it

1003
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 4: favors them at all. No, I mean quite the opposite.

1004
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: The only thing that favors the Colts is that this

1005
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: game is in Indianapolis.

1006
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's it.

1007
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's I don't know what they're like

1008
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 4: on special teams. I'm sure there's some more advantages here

1009
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 4: and there, but I know Nelson usually has a big

1010
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 4: advantage over the guy across from not really this game, no,

1011
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 4: I mean I'm training. I mean Taylor's good.

1012
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: I don't know how the Colts. I think they're a

1013
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,479
Speaker 3: heavy eleven personnel team.

1014
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they will be with downs especially Yeah,

1015
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 4: and they have been. Mitchell did that role.

1016
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: So do you do you attack that with with a

1017
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 3: nickel or do you play your bass against it?

1018
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: Because I assume they'll play nickel against three receivers.

1019
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 3: But I want Keanu Benton over top of their center.

1020
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 4: Again, their tight end usage is weird, and none of

1021
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 4: them are real scary either.

1022
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 2: Yea. Their backs aren't good pass catchers, so the ball

1023
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: is usually going to one of three guys.

1024
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, Pierce, they're almost a little too predictable with their

1025
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: receivers too.

1026
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 3: I mean you go along, yeah, right, you're the coke bottle,

1027
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 3: you run a hook.

1028
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1029
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 4: Pittman was the workhorse do it all X. But they're

1030
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: not using him well or getting him the football. I

1031
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 4: mean that's more of a quarterback thing, and Downs is

1032
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 4: a pure slot Yeah. And so Downs didn't play in

1033
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 4: two receiver packages last week as his first game back.

1034
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 4: So when they had two guys on the field, it

1035
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 4: was Pierce and Pittman.

1036
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1037
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 4: And Mitchell, who I think is really talented, got phased out.

1038
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 4: So it's okay. I mean it's just if Pittman and

1039
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 4: Porter if he washes him out. And Pittman's numbers have

1040
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 4: been so bad lately that I don't think you need

1041
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 4: an elite corner to not have him, you know, produce.

1042
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 4: He has less than five receptions and less than thirty

1043
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 4: six yards in every game this year. Yeah, and he

1044
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 4: hasn't scored or had fifty receiving yards in five straight

1045
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 4: game games going back to last year.

1046
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: He only has eighty eight yards this year. Wow. I mean,

1047
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: like he's a good player, Like I'm sitting here thinking.

1048
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 3: They gave money, like he gave him twenty three million

1049
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: dollars a year. Everybody said, what a bargain that is

1050
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 3: not Now, it.

1051
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 4: Isn't right, Like I'll give you a draft pick for

1052
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 4: Pittman and put him offsite pickings if you're not going

1053
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 4: to use them.

1054
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1055
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 3: Absolutely, let's get to another break. That's going to do

1056
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 3: it for our number one one of the drive here

1057
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and now I'll be

1058
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 3: back with our number two right after this