Speaker 1: And it's drink chants, motherfucking podcast.
Speaker 2: Make he's a legends every queens rapper.
Speaker 3: He ain't say greed.
Speaker 2: That is your boy in O R E.
Speaker 3: He's a Miami hippop pioneer.
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Speaker 3: It up with some of the biggest players, you know
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Speaker 3: Drink up, mother fucking mother.
Speaker 5: Hey, Hey, sagree over, it's your boy in O R
Speaker 5: What up is dj E f N And it's drink chance,
Speaker 5: motherfucking happy. I will make some fun.
Speaker 2: Right now he is in the building. We have a pioneer.
Speaker 2: We also have a component here. I want to big
Speaker 2: a component because the other guest.
Speaker 5: Host that we have tonight, I wanted him to be
Speaker 5: the guest host, but now we're switching it up, so
Speaker 5: that component is going to be the guest host. And
Speaker 5: right now we have a hip hop pioneer. Legendary.
Speaker 2: When when you think of.
Speaker 5: A godfathers, there's certain godfathers, but he's not a godfather.
Speaker 2: He is a father of him, and this is busy motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Going down tonight. Man.
Speaker 2: Also, who we have in the building. I want to
Speaker 2: be clear.
Speaker 5: We have a person who has four and a half mics,
Speaker 5: who has platinum and gold albums. He's part of the
Speaker 5: best group ever. His partner is the best name we
Speaker 5: got compone.
Speaker 2: And we love both.
Speaker 3: Yall tonight, baby, y'all listen, that was.
Speaker 5: It.
Speaker 2: We're not like, oh, I don't want them to share them, like,
Speaker 2: can't they can't get another one?
Speaker 3: You got it?
Speaker 6: You got?
Speaker 2: I want you to talk. Yeah, y'all, you got so
Speaker 2: You're not letgend like busy Be.
Speaker 3: You gotta.
Speaker 2: He's a real brox tonight he people like Busy Bee.
Speaker 2: What's happening? Let's take it from the beginning of that
Speaker 2: hip hop. All right, let's do that because you're from
Speaker 2: the Brons.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, we're out on the bron I'm from the
Speaker 3: boogie down brunch where the only ship really started from.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Street Boston Road, Prospect Avenue, tenth Avenue, Union Avenue, you know,
Speaker 3: stuff like that.
Speaker 2: When the Grand Master Flash was doing this thing. Mally
Speaker 2: male thad or See Dealer was a little kid at
Speaker 2: this time, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Grand Wizard, THEA or what he was a
Speaker 3: little kid at this time when Grandmaster Flash and Me
Speaker 3: and Jane was rocking, and they had only three mcs
Speaker 3: at this time. They had Melly Mail, Kick Creole and
Speaker 3: Keith Cowboys. So it was just a handful of MC's.
Speaker 3: It wasn't no bunch of MC's, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It wasn't no solo It was.
Speaker 2: A lot of DJ. DJs were for the DJ at
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 5: Back then, it was it was it was it was
Speaker 5: more classic, more fashionable to be a.
Speaker 3: DJ because from the DJ right because today there's no
Speaker 3: more mcs. You know, the mcs came with the DJ.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm MC that and this DJ blisey blise,
Speaker 3: I'm you know, the DJ came with the MC. Today
Speaker 3: you just got the m C or you got the rapper.
Speaker 3: Now put the CD in, make the music, and he's gone.
Speaker 3: He eliminated the DJ, so you don't have to pay him,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And I'm on my own.
Speaker 3: But see so the MC's is dead. You know, you
Speaker 3: have the m c's and the DJs, and you got rappers.
Speaker 2: So you know I go with hip hop.
Speaker 3: I'm three MC and rapper. Oh well, the m C
Speaker 3: came with the DJ. You know what I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 3: MC bliding this is DJ.
Speaker 7: Because the DJ wasn't talking on them, so he needed
Speaker 7: someone to wrap him right, And I'll give you a
Speaker 7: few MCS.
Speaker 2: That's you know that's still wrecked today.
Speaker 3: You got ll cool J with the Cut Creator, you
Speaker 3: got DJ Polo and uh Cool g rap you know,
Speaker 3: you got me with Dead or you got let me
Speaker 3: see all the MCS with with dj CK, you got
Speaker 3: being rock him, you know right, So so you know
Speaker 3: you have that right now, you have the new MCS
Speaker 3: and the new generation coming out.
Speaker 2: They just got music and they just rappers. Well what
Speaker 2: happened to the DJ?
Speaker 3: R said made the music?
Speaker 5: Ain't nobody this friend, this is my partner. He hates
Speaker 5: rapper goes on there and thanks everybody, Right, all.
Speaker 3: The guys a maze.
Speaker 2: We're not We're not saying look at us, we do
Speaker 2: the backbone, that's right, but and I agree, So.
Speaker 3: You know, at the of the day, you know, we
Speaker 3: need our DJ to help rapper, and the rapper need
Speaker 3: the DJ to do his thing. Too, because you got
Speaker 3: to promote that. This DJ helped me make this beat,
Speaker 3: to make y'all rack.
Speaker 5: Yeah, here's a crazy I'm so sorry everybody. I got
Speaker 5: two of my partners here.
Speaker 2: Cne. This is cn.
Speaker 3: CNE, this temptation.
Speaker 2: Have to describe the.
Speaker 5: Situation earlier today, I see Busy Be, Busy Be see
Speaker 5: me and said, he looked at me because we're both
Speaker 5: Champagne people.
Speaker 3: Right to crack a bottle ship, Yeah, crack up, be careful.
Speaker 2: That's very hot. This today is talking about today today. Yeah, yeah, yo,
Speaker 2: listen to all the rap is at allto raps iced
Speaker 2: team Big Mickey Benson.
Speaker 3: Right, Ali, who else? We got a big one. We
Speaker 3: did it.
Speaker 2: We did it Ice team making Mention team.
Speaker 5: And I see Busy be walking through the crowd and
Speaker 5: you had that v BO clicko and you got and
Speaker 5: you filled me up.
Speaker 2: That's what I do. I gotta fill you up right now. Okay,
Speaker 2: the whole bottom you take that.
Speaker 3: I how to do this ship.
Speaker 2: So we all right, all right? From from.
Speaker 3: Listen Mike Booth, Mike Boon is a Champagne nigga. We
Speaker 3: all king.
Speaker 2: Champagne nigga, all the Champagne niggas. We got the call
Speaker 2: that's he killed that.
Speaker 3: Okay, so busy me let me ask you a question
Speaker 3: right right.
Speaker 5: Right now, these brothers, the new generation is out and
Speaker 5: they don't want to do their history. They don't want
Speaker 5: to know who you are. They don't want to know
Speaker 5: who I don't want to They don't want to is.
Speaker 5: They don't want to know who he is.
Speaker 3: How you feel about that, Well, I don't feel about it.
Speaker 3: But I tell you what they do are they doing?
Speaker 3: They it's just a greed thing. It's just about a
Speaker 3: greed thing. And everybody is happy that they being recognized
Speaker 3: at this period of time in our culture. So at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, like you said, I might
Speaker 3: be the father, but then you're an icon, and then
Speaker 3: they got to respect that because of who you are
Speaker 3: and when you do what you do, you still do
Speaker 3: what you do exactly. They and at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, they fans. They're actually fans of what you
Speaker 3: do because some of them is made up. We was
Speaker 3: born to do this. Our fans created what we do
Speaker 3: to give us the energy to do what we do.
Speaker 3: So those people, some of them new generation is actually
Speaker 3: being made Because you look like a Noriego, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: make you do that. You just say these couple of
Speaker 3: rhymes and then that's what it is. But then the
Speaker 3: real MC's stand out. I've been doing what I've been
Speaker 3: doing three long, not too long. So I go back
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy seven, before records before to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was boring, busy be.
Speaker 3: No I was I was born at and all I
Speaker 3: do is just reinvent myself every two or three years.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, and keep it rolling to
Speaker 3: where right now today I still roll with the Snoop Doggs,
Speaker 3: the wiz khalif was.
Speaker 2: You you understand what I'm saying. Smoking good and drinking champagne.
Speaker 3: That's what I did.
Speaker 2: Let me just tell you something I'll do.
Speaker 5: Two o'clock in the morning I land in Amsterdams. You
Speaker 5: already know what I'm going. Yeah, two o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 5: I landed Acidam. The only thing I didn't do was
Speaker 5: think about how I'm gonna smoke the weed. So I
Speaker 5: brought all the weed in the world.
Speaker 3: I bought.
Speaker 2: I went to the end there, every every weed.
Speaker 3: I had all of it, and busy became.
Speaker 8: I'm des sit in there, and.
Speaker 2: I said, yo, holy ship and busy said.
Speaker 3: Something noise or something. How you doing?
Speaker 5: I said, I got all the weeds in the world,
Speaker 5: theoes you ain't gonna hit to smoke of that?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Why did I not think of that? He goes follow
Speaker 2: me and we an answidam.
Speaker 3: We walked through.
Speaker 2: I'm following, busy Bee.
Speaker 5: And not only did he show me what against cigars,
Speaker 5: I also got Marlborough Greens for people who smoke.
Speaker 2: If you smoke Newports, Marlborough Greens in Europe is the.
Speaker 5: Same exact ship as the New Boys, right, And this
Speaker 5: nigga grabbed me. I felt like in my mind he
Speaker 5: smacked me in the back of my head and say
Speaker 5: follow me. But that's that's the experience.
Speaker 3: I here's the deal.
Speaker 2: Here's the deal, busy Bee, right, what it is is
Speaker 2: that experience. I was proud to follow you. I was
Speaker 2: proud to ask you for help. I was proud. Do
Speaker 2: you think this new.
Speaker 5: Generation isn't proud because I am supposed to be the
Speaker 5: busy being of the Asat Robins to the little woozy verts.
Speaker 5: Do you think that they would do the same thing
Speaker 5: that I did with you?
Speaker 2: Because I know they don't.
Speaker 3: I know they won't because I mean they still think
Speaker 3: that they came into this game. And that's why, you know,
Speaker 3: I put together my own you know, like you know,
Speaker 3: I followed the Melly Mels and stuff like that in
Speaker 3: hip hop, and I say, and I always wear black,
Speaker 3: and I always will because I dress up for their
Speaker 3: fund of rules. And now heads will row and raptors
Speaker 3: will die, and whoever won the battle, I forgive them
Speaker 3: a try because I know I'm fresher.
Speaker 2: I was born to them.
Speaker 3: But being lesser small than the record in the show
Speaker 3: to me when I came here to set the world
Speaker 3: free from around the waves back in the days, I
Speaker 3: got beat so you can get paid. I may this's
Speaker 3: a job, you two bitch slobs, and now you die
Speaker 3: the word learned, still all robbed. You got a little
Speaker 3: bit of fame and wealth. Now you're thinking that all
Speaker 3: by yourself. I am you, but you ain't me, because
Speaker 3: you can start rapping to two thousand and three.
Speaker 2: I just tried to all stay together killed.
Speaker 3: So you know, I let them know. You know, I've
Speaker 3: been doing this for a little while. Respect the culture,
Speaker 3: just like when you're smoking weed. Now, you know, with
Speaker 3: a new generation of smoking weed, you have people that's
Speaker 3: sixty seventy years old, been smoking We call it pot
Speaker 3: marijuana before y'all start calling it loud and all that
Speaker 3: respect those people that smoked that weed, because they was
Speaker 3: doing this before you even got right to the legalizations
Speaker 3: came into this planet.
Speaker 2: And this is the reason why I'm sorry to cut
Speaker 2: you off.
Speaker 5: This is the reason why I love what we're doing
Speaker 5: today because there was a brother that walked in here.
Speaker 5: And now, earlier today, I was doing a show and
Speaker 5: a brother walked in here and said, so, when you're
Speaker 5: gonna have more pioneers on your show? And I said,
Speaker 5: do you watch my show? And he said yeah, And
Speaker 5: I said, it's kr Rests, not a pioneer. And I
Speaker 5: start naming names and he assisted that, you know, you
Speaker 5: know what, You're right, Lauri, but at the same time,
Speaker 5: you're wrong because I want the people that came before
Speaker 5: he wants to hurt, he wants to hurt, he wants busy.
Speaker 2: Will be considered the icons, you know.
Speaker 3: But I appreciate it, like.
Speaker 2: I appreciated what he said. I appreciate because he wasn't hating.
Speaker 5: He was just like, yo, look, Laurie, like you guys
Speaker 5: based it because we don't interview anybody on the thirty.
Speaker 3: If you're under thirty, you gotta relect.
Speaker 2: I'm a double nickel. I ain't afraid of my ship.
Speaker 3: I look, it's a.
Speaker 5: Double nickel, that's what. And you're looking good out here.
Speaker 5: I see Missy B not only in Amsterdam, but we
Speaker 5: seen him in l A. I'm in l A right
Speaker 5: and he's there in Roscoe's. And you're still looking good.
Speaker 5: You're still smoking with you.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 3: I dream grapes, and I smoked good. You got that,
Speaker 3: sir rock, You know, I mean stuff. I don know,
Speaker 3: real hard drugs.
Speaker 2: I never did in my in my culture.
Speaker 3: So I always did define the grapes, you know, because
Speaker 3: I always stood around the people that said this is
Speaker 3: the rich stuff. I wanted the rich stuff. That's that's
Speaker 3: the scoop battle. Yeah in school, Yeah, just in case
Speaker 3: you're own some fly ship right here right now, school,
Speaker 3: I know you're doing some fly ship right now.
Speaker 5: With right now now, you as a person that was
Speaker 5: there in the eighties, you as a person that was
Speaker 5: there from the exception from the I don't even know.
Speaker 2: What that word was in the beginning beginning, right, So
Speaker 2: I got the lyrics, you.
Speaker 5: As seeing it, you as being there from the beginning
Speaker 5: right when you listen to the music.
Speaker 2: Now, are you disappointed or do you understand?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not too much of disappointed because some of
Speaker 3: the guys I do understand now I do have some
Speaker 3: of the new Generation. I mean, if you call like
Speaker 3: Ludacris new generation, which to where he's coming from, you know,
Speaker 3: to I listened to some of those. If you're making
Speaker 3: sense to the Kendrick Lamar's you know, I can understand
Speaker 3: that when you're just doing that what they call in
Speaker 3: the man or that that that crump or I don't
Speaker 3: even know, you know, it's just good music. Music speaks
Speaker 3: for itself. So if you're putting something behind it, then
Speaker 3: then you got an exclusive.
Speaker 2: You wind up having a classic if you take that
Speaker 2: music is fantastic. At the end of the day, I
Speaker 2: used to know, if I'm letting you down.
Speaker 9: No, no, no way.
Speaker 3: At the other of the day, that's about the DJ
Speaker 3: and the producer. The music is right, then it speaks
Speaker 3: for itself because the DJ knows, and then the DJ
Speaker 3: helps the producer to tell the people, Hey.
Speaker 2: This is what they do.
Speaker 3: But now the consumer became the DJ. But we can
Speaker 3: change the equations. But we can change that because we're
Speaker 3: speaking on it now. You know, the DJ is the
Speaker 3: man period period in hip hop. But I feel like
Speaker 3: DJ became castrated in this. But I'm saying that hip
Speaker 3: hop please please, and hip hop don't. The DJ is
Speaker 3: still the god that should be now.
Speaker 2: Ap okay, he killed that.
Speaker 3: He did what two three? Now, A rap is a
Speaker 3: different scenario. So like you say, when you're driving, you
Speaker 3: stay in your lane. You're in hip hop, stay in
Speaker 3: your lane because you the god. As long as you
Speaker 3: got in them, see that will follow your rules. You
Speaker 3: still to God. And rap is a different scenario because
Speaker 3: you got so many industries now that this is a
Speaker 3: billion dollar industry.
Speaker 2: Hip hop took over planet Earth.
Speaker 3: If you're not doing nothing in hip hop, you not
Speaker 3: even making no money, you either a fast food worker,
Speaker 3: a janitor Wendy's, or are doing something that you illegal
Speaker 3: because hip hop took over the planet. If you're not
Speaker 3: working in the industry of hip hop taking care of
Speaker 3: a person like me or Noriega or an MC that's
Speaker 3: worth that money, you ain't getting a dying And I'm
Speaker 3: sorry to say that. But the hip hoppers and the
Speaker 3: hip hop ats, how y'all saying we killed it, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So that's what it is. When
Speaker 3: the hotel hip hop man, that's all I can say.
Speaker 3: It's peace, love, unity and having fun. And we took
Speaker 3: over the planet. There's no place on planet Earth that
Speaker 3: there's not a B boy a break series. Based on
Speaker 3: your feed, the artists something We're done took over. So PUSYV.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, like, as a person that.
Speaker 5: I would have to call you a pioneer even more
Speaker 5: than care Rest because we had chare rests on here,
Speaker 5: we had Big Day came on here, the King is.
Speaker 2: Coming out soon.
Speaker 5: But was there ever a moment in this music industry
Speaker 5: where you was disappointed when you were just like.
Speaker 2: No, because okay, I never hated. I'm not a hater,
Speaker 2: No I ain't.
Speaker 3: What if you disappointed about something in hip hop, then okay,
Speaker 3: yeah you could be a hater. You might not call
Speaker 3: it that, but then the guy like me who heard somebody, they'll.
Speaker 2: Call it that because you guys are older, so they
Speaker 2: look at you at the end of this day.
Speaker 3: I'm not that I look at it. Some people hear
Speaker 3: lucky breaks. Like I said, again, you don't even have
Speaker 3: to be a rapper you could just look like one
Speaker 3: and somebody can put that money in you and make
Speaker 3: you say two or three rounds that you have been in.
Speaker 2: And it happened. It happened with Grand Master Cash and
Speaker 2: Big Bang Hang. Let me stop you right there.
Speaker 5: Jermaine dupri got on our show and said he looked
Speaker 5: at Crisscross the Rappers see and he wrote, He said
Speaker 5: he wrote every lyric the whole Crisscrosshole album just because
Speaker 5: he looked at them.
Speaker 7: All right, but hold up, but he said, Rappers the
Speaker 7: Light one of the biggest records that at.
Speaker 3: The end of the day even rappers delight. It only
Speaker 3: lasts six months. If you ain't real, I'm good. If
Speaker 3: it ain't real, it ain't gonna last. You understand what
Speaker 3: I'm saying now, you can be made up MILLI Vally.
Speaker 3: If y'all that record skip, y'all be fucked up to day.
Speaker 6: You think.
Speaker 3: You understand what.
Speaker 2: My feelings when I'm fron ticket, So there it is.
Speaker 3: I'll be a perfect example of the realness because I
Speaker 3: go back that far and it's twenty seventeen, right, I'm
Speaker 3: still standing.
Speaker 5: Still to speak on business actually saifully and I probably
Speaker 5: think this is the best question and you're probably the
Speaker 5: best person to answer this, because real hip hop living
Speaker 5: Europe more than is living oh United States.
Speaker 3: FU.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they respect.
Speaker 3: He's gonna say this, bet our love so much, man.
Speaker 3: I mean, dressed by myself. I can go pack a
Speaker 3: house at eighteen hundred by myself to where. I didn't
Speaker 3: know that until I got there and thought saying. I
Speaker 3: looked in the crowd, I was like the Blues brothers
Speaker 3: and shit and so all the people and said, I said, yeah,
Speaker 3: who who else on the card? He said you and nobody.
Speaker 3: I said what?
Speaker 10: Just me?
Speaker 3: They said yeah. I said, oh shit. So you know
Speaker 3: you can't get that in America. Right here in the
Speaker 3: US right now. You know, I'll get y'all, my homies,
Speaker 3: my friends, they girls, and then we got to pack house.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. But as far as the
Speaker 3: people that paid that money and came to see and
Speaker 3: appreciate that respect, they're not going to come into America,
Speaker 3: But in Europe they'll spend them U Rosy follow four months,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. He was out.
Speaker 5: Now come on, let me ask you the same question.
Speaker 5: I apologize because you know this we got we got
Speaker 5: busy beat. But I'm going to answer you the same question.
Speaker 5: Does hip hop actually exist more in Europe than in America?
Speaker 8: I would have to probably agree I do.
Speaker 2: But do you do you mean fans or the culture?
Speaker 3: The culture?
Speaker 7: You don't know?
Speaker 2: No, I think if it is a culture you no, no, no,
Speaker 2: You're one.
Speaker 3: Hundred percent correct.
Speaker 5: And with you how you applied that, because when you
Speaker 5: said fans of the culture, but let me take the
Speaker 5: fans away, let me just just just deal with the culture.
Speaker 2: Do you remember we went, We was in Germany and
Speaker 2: the promoter we just we.
Speaker 5: Couldn't see him for thirty minutes because he went and
Speaker 5: put up with CNN, the Bamon, the nigga went and
Speaker 5: nigga FEEDI. He did a piece for the whole peace,
Speaker 5: the whole peace for us, big enough answers. Listen, we
Speaker 5: win and we're worried about our money.
Speaker 3: We're not, we're not.
Speaker 5: We don't understanding what yo? When the fucking brand is that,
Speaker 5: they're like it's coming. And he wanted to show us,
Speaker 5: so he went out there and did a whole piece.
Speaker 5: All right, A throw up, I'm Puerto Rican. A throw
Speaker 5: up is when you just a piece is when you
Speaker 5: more letters box letters, right, he did.
Speaker 2: A piece for the piece that's me and me and
Speaker 2: this nigga's like, that's why he lacked.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: You can never get that right. You get that in America,
Speaker 2: you don't.
Speaker 9: You don't.
Speaker 3: You don't you get fans that drawed you and and
Speaker 3: and spend time on doing something for you and to
Speaker 3: come to give it to you, to show you what
Speaker 3: they do. In America. I mean, guys come to the show,
Speaker 3: they looking for the girl to go home with. They
Speaker 3: heard you and they gone, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And in the beginning it wasn't like that. The commercialized
Speaker 3: and the and the industry took over. That's why I
Speaker 3: say now to to this day, you could push a
Speaker 3: button down we could be millionaire. There's no more discrimination
Speaker 3: in hip hop. You could be green, black, purple, whatever,
Speaker 3: and then say I'm a millionaire because you could press
Speaker 3: a button. You can go on the internet. You could
Speaker 3: just be on TV YouTube right now and DJ and
Speaker 3: make ten thousand dollars. So I'm saying the hip hop
Speaker 3: culture took over. We are the world right now. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it took over so much.
Speaker 2: And sometimes you don't even know, right because it's just
Speaker 2: so I like CNN and they talking hip hop lingo. Right,
Speaker 2: So that's all I'm saying. It's over.
Speaker 3: We took over the planet. I remember thirty years ago,
Speaker 3: you had to wear that suit and tie for seeing
Speaker 3: Inn and you can talk like that. They would talk
Speaker 3: on us down like these people here is doing that.
Speaker 3: Oprah Winfrey is a perfect example. She was just she
Speaker 3: was fat with the AFRO and then Baltimore and they
Speaker 3: talked about her. She's a billionaire, you know, and at
Speaker 3: one time she didn't like hip hop. Donald Trump didn't
Speaker 3: like hip hop.
Speaker 2: At one time.
Speaker 3: Now know, little Kim, he know us, he know who
Speaker 3: we are, and now all of a sudden he don't
Speaker 3: know nobody. Now you understand what I'm saying. So I mean,
Speaker 3: you know our coach is strong man.
Speaker 5: So from you being from the beginning, right, did you
Speaker 5: ever think that we would lose control the way we
Speaker 5: lost control?
Speaker 2: Now, let me explain what I mean, because what I
Speaker 2: mean is.
Speaker 5: When we were doing hip hop, when Mob Deeper doing
Speaker 5: hip hop, Nave was doing hip hop, it was untraditional.
Speaker 2: It wasn't just the way hip hop and all that.
Speaker 5: Right, But now we us, we're supposed to be who
Speaker 5: you guys were, or who you guys is still to
Speaker 5: this day, and we can't control these new guys, but you.
Speaker 3: Are controlling because we look where we're at right now
Speaker 3: and some of them new guys can't do this. We're
Speaker 3: on the podcast listening to the list right now. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So I mean, we're still winning.
Speaker 3: It's no, it's no more losing. We already won and
Speaker 3: we win it. So now I do it like this.
Speaker 3: We want to go to the playoffs, get to the championship.
Speaker 3: And right now, you're always going to be in the playoffs, Norway,
Speaker 3: because you already won the championship a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: When you you you was at your baby, so you
Speaker 3: got your props.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 3: It's gonna keep all rolling. You're gonna get money for
Speaker 3: the rest of your life. As long as you keep
Speaker 3: telling the people what you're doing, and you can show
Speaker 3: that you can still do what you do, they're gonna
Speaker 3: come see you.
Speaker 5: And this is the reason why I fuck with you.
Speaker 5: Because you don't know why I fuck with you. It's
Speaker 5: because after you have ten years in this game, it's
Speaker 5: either you gonna get up or you're gonna be better, right,
Speaker 5: Because the thing about it is we don't ten years,
Speaker 5: you can never ever judge those ten years of loyalty.
Speaker 5: But I mean by that is, if you work for
Speaker 5: McDonald's and you there for ten years, you can take
Speaker 5: up your McDonald's hat and nobody will ever bother you
Speaker 5: when But you can do ten years in hip hop,
Speaker 5: and you do ten years in hip hop, you can
Speaker 5: never take your mask.
Speaker 3: Especially if you was if good and hip hop when
Speaker 3: you came out. When you came out and do people
Speaker 3: respect that you, then then those people growed up just
Speaker 3: like you rolled up, and they're gonna tell these people, yeah, shit,
Speaker 3: my man, nor.
Speaker 2: Was this ship in the back then, And in some
Speaker 2: cases they grow up with you. So there it is.
Speaker 2: Don't never think that you lost nothing.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You're still a champion of
Speaker 3: your culture. You're still a champion your people. I'm still
Speaker 3: knocking that fly ship.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: What you're doing, so you know you ain't you ain't composed,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So I mean you got
Speaker 3: everybody eating the whole team, right, so everybody is happy,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So you ain't never lost me.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I'm thinking of When I think about it,
Speaker 5: I think I think of that, I think of the
Speaker 5: young generation because the thing about it is, right, I
Speaker 5: was fortunate enough to come in the era.
Speaker 2: Where you we had to respect y'all, We had to
Speaker 2: look up to y'all.
Speaker 12: Right now this era is it's like follow this children
Speaker 12: like you gotta look at the person who came out
Speaker 12: two months before them, but they know looking at saying
Speaker 12: that's my Harold and those guys came out to.
Speaker 2: The Gucci, but you came out yesterday. Respect him. I like,
Speaker 2: first off, I like that record was.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, you're gonna get
Speaker 3: they run. I seen the video. I didn't know as
Speaker 3: long as they're.
Speaker 2: Going to get it. And then it's a wrap.
Speaker 3: Such a person like you, such a person as I
Speaker 3: twenty years from later career, he's going to talk about
Speaker 3: you same as they're going to keep talking about me.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And that's the difference.
Speaker 5: But do you ever try to like reach out to
Speaker 5: like a person from a younger Yeah, yeah, like who
Speaker 5: let's give.
Speaker 2: Us what's my man?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 3: No, but he from the South, he did type of
Speaker 3: way that makes one. Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Like that ship like I funk with Kwan and I.
Speaker 3: Never met him personally, and he's very humble, right, but
Speaker 3: he saw me, his boy said, he busy b. I
Speaker 3: left the mess because I mean me, if I like
Speaker 3: your ship, I'm gonna find one of the guys in
Speaker 3: your crew that do know me and tell them, yo,
Speaker 3: tell him hey, okay.
Speaker 5: So somebou let's describe that a little more than that.
Speaker 5: So you've seen him at his right what was it
Speaker 5: b T hip Hop Awards? Because I do all the
Speaker 5: hip hop ship, I go to him and.
Speaker 3: You smoking everyone that them right, So I go there
Speaker 3: and then I look for the guys like such as
Speaker 3: Kwame and find all the guys that I hear on
Speaker 3: the radios that's right for me, and go and give
Speaker 3: them their props to let them know, hey, you on
Speaker 3: the right track.
Speaker 2: Keep doing what you're doing. I love that shit.
Speaker 3: And if you haven't heard from the Icons or the Pioneers,
Speaker 3: I'm one of them mentoring you got my motherfucking blessings, nigga,
Speaker 3: And then they'll say, my nigga, busy be, that's what's up. Man.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, and that's it, and that's all I
Speaker 2: ask for. Man, respect.
Speaker 3: Now, at the end of the day, when I came
Speaker 3: up again, I didn't make a lot of money millions
Speaker 3: and thousands of dollars, but I got two point three
Speaker 3: billion in respect and I'll.
Speaker 2: Take that all there.
Speaker 5: What, yo, let me tell you something about you because
Speaker 5: I just mentioned Amsterdam. But I seen you right everywhere.
Speaker 5: Every time, me and Capone and you all they smile.
Speaker 5: You always was happy. Yeah, you never you never was bitter.
Speaker 2: Why is that the case?
Speaker 3: Because they always say, never let them see you sweat,
Speaker 3: never let them see you crying. Keep a smile on
Speaker 3: your face, keep it feeling good. And something always happened good.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So here, I am right now.
Speaker 3: I was at all rap chilling and you said your bits.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 3: Man, I want you my show man, So I'm right here.
Speaker 2: You pull up.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm scause.
Speaker 2: You know why. You know why my father's were cutting
Speaker 2: you off. But you know why we owe y'all generations.
Speaker 3: They owe us.
Speaker 5: But instead of me telling them to owe us, I
Speaker 5: want to show a perfect example.
Speaker 11: I want to show love to my forefathers. I want
Speaker 11: to show love like not just your forefathers. It's hip
Speaker 11: Hop's forefathers. Thank you talk that ships all of us.
Speaker 7: Is it's drink champs or none of the nonether should
Speaker 7: we do if y'all would you know, pave the way
Speaker 7: for all of us.
Speaker 5: So we want to show love to the people that
Speaker 5: came before us, the big Daddy Kings, the rock camps,
Speaker 5: the busy beings, the chuck chillouts, who else we've seen tonight.
Speaker 3: We've seen so many people brucie bee uh.
Speaker 5: We want to show love to y'all because the thing is,
Speaker 5: we don't ever want y'all to feel unwelcome.
Speaker 3: Why ain't gonna do it to myself? When I see y'all, brothers,
Speaker 3: even if I don't know y'all, I run up to
Speaker 3: you hate because I be your flying motherfucker sometimes my
Speaker 3: giant ship.
Speaker 6: Right now.
Speaker 3: You know you've always got and you always got liquor.
Speaker 3: So I run up on the brothers even let them
Speaker 3: know because they might have seen The Beast DVD or
Speaker 3: they might have seen something saying, oh yeah, that's busy,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, And then I let them know, Hey,
Speaker 3: though love is love, man, I'm not knowing no hate
Speaker 3: the ship be I congratulate, I appreciate what you're doing.
Speaker 3: I'm here, I'm gonna have a drink with me, smoke something.
Speaker 3: Then they say, yo, be that shit was dope. Busy
Speaker 3: d came here. He smoked sham and you smoked that
Speaker 3: good ship with us. And just because some of them
Speaker 3: they don't smoke good, but they smoking like a motherfucker man,
Speaker 3: But they don't good. Man, I smoke good.
Speaker 2: I want you to break down.
Speaker 5: The difference from rap and hip hop, okay, because earlier
Speaker 5: we alluded to it, right, and you said it right,
Speaker 5: but I would like you to detail it, Okay.
Speaker 2: Whoever's speaking back there, I love y'all, but.
Speaker 3: Can okay, well, the difference now because rapping hip hop, Okay,
Speaker 3: rapping now everybody's just rapping about what they got, who
Speaker 3: they fucking, how much money they got and and and
Speaker 3: what kind of car they driving. When we started, we
Speaker 3: was telling y'all stories about just made believe stories, fairy
Speaker 3: tale that sounded good to the beat and made you
Speaker 3: rock to it, such as the Jimmy Spicers to Slick Rick,
Speaker 3: the Rulers.
Speaker 2: Are they heavy d's, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: People like that will tell y'all stories to the funky
Speaker 3: beat and susch as myself, I keep you smiling and
Speaker 3: rocking to the funky beat. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: To Right now, they're just talking about what they got,
Speaker 3: who they get ready to have sex with, or how
Speaker 3: many babies they got, and then at the end of
Speaker 3: the day they going to jail, They're.
Speaker 2: Going to child support. You know what I'm saying. They
Speaker 2: making the TV just like that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So you know, hip hop then was fun with the peace, love,
Speaker 3: unity and having fun. To now rap is just about
Speaker 3: how much money a person is getting at the end
Speaker 3: of the day. All you gotta do is make a
Speaker 3: mistake and then the lawyer you're gonna take it away.
Speaker 3: Producers is gonna take it away, you know, So you're
Speaker 3: gonna lose, you know what I'm saying. So me myself again,
Speaker 3: I just like having fun. I make my money, I
Speaker 3: take care of my family and enjoy myself. Man. That's it.
Speaker 3: That's what it's all about. That's what we came in
Speaker 3: here when we started was peace, love, unity and having fun.
Speaker 3: If you're not doing that, and then you're not doing it,
Speaker 3: and that's not hip hop.
Speaker 2: You you think you think industry divided the culture.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well the industry like again, the industry could be
Speaker 3: anywhere and again like right among us and say, hey,
Speaker 3: you look like busy be man, I want you to
Speaker 3: do something.
Speaker 2: You think you can talk to me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that person's gonna say yeah, because that's an
Speaker 3: opportunity for that. You know what I'm saying, I can
Speaker 3: be ready to feed my family for ten minutes because
Speaker 3: as soon they catch on that, I ain't really busy
Speaker 3: be and I can't really do that shit busy be
Speaker 3: doing because you don't know what bisit be doing because
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you don't even know
Speaker 3: busy be right, you know what I'm saying, So you know,
Speaker 3: commercialize that money as a motherfucker. But at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, I appreciate it all because at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, they feeding black folks. They're feeding
Speaker 3: families of the black folks, and some of the white
Speaker 3: folks is getting some of the money. You got eminem
Speaker 3: you got, you got frost you I mean, you got
Speaker 3: white MC's they making money, but it's feeding us, it's
Speaker 3: helping us, helping some.
Speaker 2: Of Carris One kind of said it the best. I
Speaker 2: think I'm pretty sure it was. He said, rapp is
Speaker 2: something you do.
Speaker 3: That's my brother. So you know we Parker's I'm just
Speaker 3: David Parker. That's Chris Parker and Kenny so we like
Speaker 3: the Jacksons, we just split up.
Speaker 2: He all on that side. I'm on this side.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: First off, let me just say we're in Stingrays right now.
Speaker 5: What's the ad mister sting Rays Second Street, thirty second Avenue,
Speaker 5: come to sting Rays the world the best host he.
Speaker 2: Got on Spurs on his show. Hear him on fucking Cowboy.
Speaker 2: I love this this guy.
Speaker 5: Listen, you gotta come out here. You gotta get the
Speaker 5: whole experience and do it. So, now, what's your favorite
Speaker 5: ever hip hop?
Speaker 3: Phus?
Speaker 2: He be the early nineties? Very think you would say that.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest, I had this question in my
Speaker 5: mind as soon as I knew that he was coming here.
Speaker 2: I thought you was gonna say, Earl eighties. No, man,
Speaker 2: come on, man, no, I can't keep it.
Speaker 3: No really than it it is, man, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: front they said the Early Night.
Speaker 2: So what what groups to mark? The E P M D.
Speaker 3: You know what? Try yeah, ship that ship was fun. Man,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Easy, in the n W A,
Speaker 3: they changed the whole ship because before before that you said, before.
Speaker 2: That, I've always said, I guess, I'm sorry, Well guess.
Speaker 2: And when they said NAS album and Gotti and you said, oh,
Speaker 2: you're not telling.
Speaker 3: N W because you said exactly the same, you said,
Speaker 3: didn't finished.
Speaker 2: They changed you change you said, you said it, but.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you how they changed it. Because see, from
Speaker 3: the East Coast, we were scared, they're not gonna use
Speaker 3: that word skin okay, but we were scared to say, hey, bitch,
Speaker 3: you get the fun off the record. We wouldn't say
Speaker 3: that on the record. Easy, you know what I'm saying, Hey, bitch,
Speaker 3: suck my dick and come on to the podect and
Speaker 3: people win crazy for that.
Speaker 2: Changed.
Speaker 3: I want to you, Easy, I want to you too.
Speaker 3: Changed everything that was on their record. Now now now
Speaker 3: East Coast wrapping now oh yeah we're okay, bitch. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and now we started that. That changed everything.
Speaker 5: So so I apologize because these people hate me when
Speaker 5: I cut people off.
Speaker 2: I need a cigarette. That's something just right now, I imagine.
Speaker 2: But you know, in your opinion, Gainst the rap was invented.
Speaker 3: With on the West. Explain that, brother, because Ice t
Speaker 3: was Ice Tea was first what's.
Speaker 2: One Nigga from the Bronx?
Speaker 3: Then just Tim Dog, just Tim Dog, Tim Dogg went
Speaker 3: to l A. Tim Dog do it before Tim Tim
Speaker 3: Dogg went to l A back then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, y'all talking to the icon.
Speaker 3: I was there.
Speaker 5: Did you say this movie Ice Team in New York?
Speaker 3: Ice Team with us back in the day?
Speaker 5: Okay, oh everybody, everybody be quiet, please please, please please now,
Speaker 5: so busy Busy Beach, listen.
Speaker 2: Your pioneer, Busy Beach, your icon.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: We've been debating this on the podcast for so long,
Speaker 5: and you're saying that the gangster when it comes to
Speaker 5: against the rat right one hundred percent right. The first
Speaker 5: time you witnessed against the rat right came from the
Speaker 5: West coast, came from the West, and it came to
Speaker 5: Ice Tea with six in the morning.
Speaker 8: So he was on this show.
Speaker 3: We love Ice Tea. Call your story, bro. He came
Speaker 3: with Ice Tea was because he was from the West,
Speaker 3: but he recorded the ship over here on the east
Speaker 3: because that's where the vibe was at.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, So I'm sorry, So can you tell us
Speaker 5: what we were recording at that time on the East coast, because.
Speaker 3: We were still recording party flavors. We was talking on
Speaker 3: reality because you had the tribe called Quest, you had
Speaker 3: ever you had Rod Kim Rock Kim was talking to
Speaker 3: the guards pieces you know what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 3: so so now we was cool right there. Now you
Speaker 3: had the guards had a little something to talk about.
Speaker 3: Then you had the regular people that had something to
Speaker 3: talk about. And then when you mix the day, our
Speaker 3: souls in it and right you know, so so now
Speaker 3: we have a whole rainbow of culture. We have everybody
Speaker 3: now so far so in this movement West coast. Now,
Speaker 3: now on the West coast, you had iced tea, that
Speaker 3: was it. Then give it about four years because this
Speaker 3: is like eighty three. Then you got eighty nine easy
Speaker 3: e two shot.
Speaker 5: King, you know, okay, bad, But describe the first gangst
Speaker 5: the rap rap you heard.
Speaker 3: In w A so not.
Speaker 7: In the morning.
Speaker 3: It wasn't actually against the song. It was just a
Speaker 3: real story. Because we knew about Larry Davis in New
Speaker 3: York from school. D's right. We knew about it when
Speaker 3: I see said sixth in the morning, police at my door, right, away.
Speaker 3: Everybody in New York knew about Larry Davis because that's
Speaker 3: when it happened. So we threw that in. We were
Speaker 3: talking about Larry Davis. Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Never knew that.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you know that little story right there went
Speaker 3: for Larry David who made him famous and known, and
Speaker 3: made Iced Tea famous known and Iced Tea had the
Speaker 3: kind of voice now and hip hop the difference between
Speaker 3: the rappers. When somebody asked me that the difference is voices, okay,
Speaker 3: and hip hop you have strange voice. You have to
Speaker 3: the day your favorite rapper has a distinct voice. Facts,
Speaker 3: so every day everybody want to sound the same. You're
Speaker 3: only gonna last six month, get your money fast.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you. They say some of that
Speaker 2: is reality rapped or gangster. When they said Reilly Mel
Speaker 2: did reality wrap first?
Speaker 3: What game first? Reality rapp gainst the rap?
Speaker 2: Reality?
Speaker 3: And who who was the first reality rap?
Speaker 5: Because you said the first gangster rapper had to be
Speaker 5: Ice Team, I would say Slick Rick because he had
Speaker 5: the story with Lottie.
Speaker 3: Dottie, we wanted to party, don't trouble, we don't. We
Speaker 3: don't bother nobody.
Speaker 2: Just when we get it up on a message. The
Speaker 2: message to be wouldn't be reality rap but messages.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't be reality wrapped for the elder.
Speaker 2: Them niggas doing coke back then, you don't know what.
Speaker 3: They agree with everybody for that you could say that,
Speaker 3: but Loddie Doddy would agree because it's for everybody you know,
Speaker 3: stick with. And then you had a London person rapping
Speaker 3: in America. Right, you never had nobody talk like that,
Speaker 3: and you had a different it's the voice of.
Speaker 2: Pronunciations that one now one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: I love to interview people like you, the people who
Speaker 5: came prior to it, because it doesn't sound like me.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 3: They ain't gonna tell you the truth because they don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna tell you what they You.
Speaker 2: Gotta relax, you got you know what you want to
Speaker 2: relax because we love you. Busy b and this is
Speaker 2: your format and this is this is where you gotta do.
Speaker 3: But this is his a thing.
Speaker 2: But tell us to ask the question. This is the
Speaker 2: reason why I love the.
Speaker 5: You're our first pioneer, right, we had care of us.
Speaker 5: He's like, you know, damn there, yeah, but care us is.
Speaker 5: But he's a pioneer but he's the little brother. But
Speaker 5: I'm one hundred.
Speaker 2: Percent love to speak to people like you, because.
Speaker 5: Back then going to l A was a totally different
Speaker 5: expiritce r right, Like they enjoyed you motherfucker's coming out there.
Speaker 5: They said, Yo, what New York motherfuckers in LA. They
Speaker 5: embraced them. Nobody shot nobody back then like switched.
Speaker 3: I would love I would love you.
Speaker 2: What do you mean because ship was going down?
Speaker 7: Yeah, but but it was love that you're talking about
Speaker 7: talking about the music, yes.
Speaker 3: Because we were talking just like he said before before
Speaker 3: that we can go to l A and were It
Speaker 3: was still known for you to getting robbed whatever. But
Speaker 3: if an MC came from the East Coast and went
Speaker 3: to l A, you was like the guard that day
Speaker 3: for that week.
Speaker 2: They appreciated hip hop. They appreciate it, kind of like
Speaker 2: the European thing y'all talking about. The West Coast was
Speaker 2: appreciated him right right now.
Speaker 3: Now, after that, you know what Pop and Big started
Speaker 3: the you because it wasn't none of that ship. It
Speaker 3: was just like you said, you we can go to
Speaker 3: LA and have a ball because it was a different mix.
Speaker 3: Now we bought some East Coast girls had some West
Speaker 3: Coast girls.
Speaker 2: Now you know, we all partying together.
Speaker 3: But then when poking pot started that West Coast and
Speaker 3: East Coast and Biggie fed into it again, it fucked
Speaker 3: it all up because then when somebody died, it was
Speaker 3: like East Coast guys was like targets. You go over
Speaker 3: there and use somebody and you talking that gangster ship
Speaker 3: they talking. If you got out of there safe, then okay, good,
Speaker 3: But you didn't have a good time. And before then
Speaker 3: we had a good time in La. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, We had a good time. I did exactly
Speaker 3: the way I went all the way, and.
Speaker 5: So there was now will I love you just a
Speaker 5: little bit more details to describe how La was loved
Speaker 5: because prior to us, we used to hear like New
Speaker 5: York was just they loved us out right. And I
Speaker 5: never got to experience that. I never got the serience
Speaker 5: where La was.
Speaker 3: So you got the part where you was the target.
Speaker 2: I was a target. It's regular l A l A.
Speaker 5: I know, I'm just saying, but I never I never
Speaker 5: got the experience where he just described what he means
Speaker 5: is when I went to hoods, I went to New York, was.
Speaker 2: The birthplace, and LA appreciated that. L A appreciated that.
Speaker 3: I went to hoods and went to the neighborhoods, you
Speaker 3: know where described to some people. I guess, like you said,
Speaker 3: can't go now because it's not good. But back then,
Speaker 3: I went where people were selling the crack, at where
Speaker 3: the hoods was at, brothers was on the corners and
Speaker 3: stuff like that.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I was in hoods where they had the cars that
Speaker 3: jump up and down and stuff like that. I hung
Speaker 3: around with the dogs, the pit bulls and like that
Speaker 3: while they're shooting dice and but yeah, I was doing
Speaker 3: all that. You know, it was good. It was love
Speaker 3: because they'll say, yo, my bids in town. So everybody
Speaker 3: put out the grill. It was like a block party.
Speaker 3: It was like Mardi Gras, East Coast rapper with no
Speaker 3: really little respect, and you come in there, person hood ship,
Speaker 3: whoever ran that hood was like, yo, we put out right,
Speaker 3: You're good for that that day.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It was just love. But then after that, you know,
Speaker 3: even some of those guys, you know, they either went
Speaker 3: to jail or died or they don't run the hoods
Speaker 3: no more. You know what I'm saying, Things change, you know,
Speaker 3: so me, I rolled with it. Man, I try to
Speaker 3: reinvent myself again. Do what I gotta do. Know who
Speaker 3: is who respect that? Because me, I'm not the one
Speaker 3: to go around trying to I'm a boss. I'm just
Speaker 3: a person. At the end of the day, the boss
Speaker 3: would say that person is all right with all of us,
Speaker 3: and then I'll get love from everybody.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, And that's that's me.
Speaker 3: That's all I asked for.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm saying, let's make so much busy. Be
Speaker 2: got that.
Speaker 5: Your busy, be your Bronx legend, right right. Well, let
Speaker 5: me just ask you, like why it's hip hop so
Speaker 5: different from every five years? Why do we change hip hop?
Speaker 3: Well, hip hop don't change, it's just the industry change.
Speaker 13: You know.
Speaker 3: See, the industry took over some of us rappers MC's
Speaker 3: which like, I don't have a contract with a record
Speaker 3: company today because a record company can't tell me what
Speaker 3: my culture do. I'm telling you you can follow me
Speaker 3: and still pay me, but you can't tell me to
Speaker 3: get up at six in the morning because my people
Speaker 3: not up at six and no goddamn morning my people
Speaker 3: up at five in the afternoon, partying and chilling.
Speaker 2: So you know, they don't know, they assume they know.
Speaker 3: And then for people who's not real or who's been
Speaker 3: made up, they gotta follow that because they don't know,
Speaker 3: so they think that's what it is. And then they
Speaker 3: get and they getting paid, so they think that's what
Speaker 3: it really is. So they tell their crew members that, hey,
Speaker 3: this is what it is. This is how we get
Speaker 3: down to. When you find out the real ship is
Speaker 3: too late, you're too far in, you're don't talk the
Speaker 3: wrong stuff, you made people mad, and you didn't even
Speaker 3: give a fuck, you know what I'm saying. So then
Speaker 3: you got one hit wonders that don't last.
Speaker 5: You have a few guys that one hit wonders, I'll
Speaker 5: be seeing them in the way spot by Juice.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 7: So, you people of the culture are running the industry,
Speaker 7: run the industry, and they care less about cultivating the culture.
Speaker 2: That's the bottom line.
Speaker 3: Because at the end of the day, the person that's
Speaker 3: giving you that big check, they're telling you, hey, listen,
Speaker 3: I'm giving you this money. Make sure you don't give
Speaker 3: If you give that to your tony, that's not going
Speaker 3: to be good. But you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 3: they know Tony gonna do the right shit with that money.
Speaker 3: You just getting paid, and you happy. Tony gonna take
Speaker 3: that money and turn it over and do the right shit.
Speaker 3: And we ain't gonna need us, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So don't fuck with Tony, but go ahead and pay
Speaker 3: your family, make sure everybody good, make sure the kids
Speaker 3: is good. And you're happy with that at that moment,
Speaker 3: because he right, I ain't had no money. I think
Speaker 3: family right, have a few extra dollars too. That's the
Speaker 3: American dream to pay the bills and have a couple
Speaker 3: of extra dollars.
Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 2: I don't hate once again. I congratulate you. That's why
Speaker 2: we love.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But listen, let me ask you the best error to
Speaker 5: the nineties, the nineties, nineties, the early nineties as a pioneer, right,
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be a guy doing a good job if
Speaker 5: I didn't ask you this.
Speaker 3: Well, come on, what is the worst error? Right now?
Speaker 5: You're gonna say that, Let's just make some noise for
Speaker 5: him saying it. Why is it the worst ever?
Speaker 3: Because nobody nobody following now nobody, no money.
Speaker 2: They're just following the money right now. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: They're not even thinking about what's really real. But you know,
Speaker 3: they said, fuck it sound.
Speaker 2: Good, put it out. It's a melody, you look good.
Speaker 3: Put it out.
Speaker 2: Were even some pictures. Put it with one of them
Speaker 2: pretty bitches, and you got a good melody.
Speaker 3: Right now? Is that it could be social media, but
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it's still the person
Speaker 3: that got that money. So is that is that it is?
Speaker 2: Is it nowadays? It's just like a melody and a luck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because the real ship is underground. We're the
Speaker 3: ones just looking for the real people underground. Were looking
Speaker 3: for that diamond in the rock. And then it's not
Speaker 3: even the diamond because they coming right at us.
Speaker 2: We just have to have time. And then you're still
Speaker 2: so busy. You see.
Speaker 3: That's how busy you still is. You can't even see
Speaker 3: the diamond in the roughs at times. Well, that's why
Speaker 3: they call them the diamond and the roughs because they're
Speaker 3: hard to find.
Speaker 5: And when you're looking for one, two, three, you'll visit me. Man,
Speaker 5: let me tell you something. You're a pioneer. I'm trying
Speaker 5: to roll up, you roll up, hold up, and let
Speaker 5: me just tell you something.
Speaker 2: Let me just tell you something.
Speaker 5: When we started, everybody relaxed when we started this podcast.
Speaker 5: We started this and we wanted to do something for
Speaker 5: our pioneers, for our kings, for our legends.
Speaker 3: That's something for me.
Speaker 2: I'm happy for it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: We needed you, well, we didn't want you, We needed you.
Speaker 5: The spirit brought me right here because you're a great person.
Speaker 5: This is how we always bump into each other always.
Speaker 5: We don't have to call each other nothing always. I
Speaker 5: never had your number, but you're bump into out.
Speaker 3: Right there.
Speaker 2: You know, you're a great guy.
Speaker 3: And why don't.
Speaker 5: People salute our legends? The rock and roll gets saluted.
Speaker 3: I really can't answer that one question because I'm still
Speaker 3: trying to figure that out myself, because you know, you know,
Speaker 3: I've been inducted to the Hall of Fame, so they say,
Speaker 3: But then rock and roll is not recognized as I
Speaker 3: am the hip hop's first solo MC. You know when
Speaker 3: I came in this game, it was no solo. It
Speaker 3: was three mcs. You had Grandmaster Flash with Mellie Mail,
Speaker 3: Ki Creole and Keith Cowboy. Then you had if you
Speaker 3: want to use band body. He had mister Biggs and
Speaker 3: mc globe in Pow Wow. There was no solo MC.
Speaker 3: And for me to be that, I didn't have a
Speaker 3: friend to say, come on you, me and you Tom
Speaker 3: and Jerry, or me and you Darsky and Hutch. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Let's do something together. So I
Speaker 3: didn't have that, but I liked it what they was
Speaker 3: doing on the microphone, so I know I can do that.
Speaker 3: And then again I have that distinctive voice that people
Speaker 3: remember because I mean, you know, at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, they still remember that ball with the ball,
Speaker 3: the dang, the dang, diggy diggy diggy, shake the boget,
Speaker 3: do the bang bang boget, do the.
Speaker 2: Ball with the ball and the day.
Speaker 3: So that that went from seventy seven, it's two thy seventeen.
Speaker 2: You understand what.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, and it's right now my good Yeah. So see,
Speaker 3: and this is where I got my props in nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety eight from when I made the record. The original
Speaker 3: record was called making Cash Money on sugar Hill label.
Speaker 3: But then Kid Rock Rein did the song and he
Speaker 3: used my Ball with the Bob and we sold eleven
Speaker 3: million copies.
Speaker 2: You got to say that again, you got to say again,
Speaker 2: you got say it again. I made Trump Trump's hold me.
Speaker 3: I made a household word. Make some got that visit.
Speaker 6: You got that.
Speaker 3: Because Kid Rock had two albums before on Warner Brothers.
Speaker 3: He had two albums. It sold sixty units. You know,
Speaker 3: he made a little noise. But when he did the
Speaker 3: Devil without a Cause and then my song was the
Speaker 3: main song. I mean, it proves in the certified I
Speaker 3: gotta I got.
Speaker 2: A diamond out that I never went just I'm diamond.
Speaker 3: So kid Rock became a household word off of some
Speaker 3: black ghetto hip hop ship. But they let you know
Speaker 3: that even if he had to sample that, right, he
Speaker 3: has an about it, right. But he came to me.
Speaker 3: He came to me in ninety eight. I was in
Speaker 3: l A doing The Wild Style, and I was this
Speaker 3: movie called The Wild Style and we was doing the
Speaker 3: reunion and Kid Rock was there and and me, I
Speaker 3: was on my star ship.
Speaker 2: The white boy came up to me, you.
Speaker 3: Know, busy bee. You know, I want to use the
Speaker 3: ball with the ball.
Speaker 2: I want to put it on the record, and I'm
Speaker 2: on my star ship. I'm paying it no mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, put the ship on. He said, nah,
Speaker 3: I need you to come. I want you to sign
Speaker 3: so there don't be in no trouble. I said, mann,
Speaker 3: fuck it. If I make some money, then fuck it.
Speaker 3: You you came to me. I want some goddamn money.
Speaker 3: He said, hey, b okay, I'm gonna treat you right, man.
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, ninety nine I heard
Speaker 3: the song. I was in the cab doing the race.
Speaker 3: I'll get ready to do a podcast. I never signed, right,
Speaker 3: he did, be right, I'm rich. Shout out to keep
Speaker 3: for that right, so she shout off the kid rock.
Speaker 3: Because he definitely kept a hip hop.
Speaker 2: He's on hip hops.
Speaker 3: The most important for he kept his world. He definitely
Speaker 3: kept his word because he's I told his world. I said, Yo,
Speaker 3: just go aha and do this ship.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 3: If we make some money, I call you motherfucking you
Speaker 3: hit me off. He said, be okay, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 3: Because I was in my star ship. I was doing
Speaker 3: wild style, you know, and I was all my sho,
Speaker 3: I'm smoking and drinking the fuck out.
Speaker 2: Of here, you know what.
Speaker 3: But the ship blew up and then and then I
Speaker 3: was doing the podcast. I was going to eighty eight
Speaker 3: point nine in New York with me there. I saw
Speaker 3: he was good to do the same ship. And I
Speaker 3: was in the cab and the song was on the radio,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, I kept hearing Bob with
Speaker 3: the ball but and I'm singing along right, and I said,
Speaker 3: wait a minute. And then you know, so my I
Speaker 3: called my he said he I told you the white
Speaker 3: Boy kid Rock.
Speaker 2: I said, oh, ship, yo, I didn't know. I didn't
Speaker 2: know it's sold, you know, as many copies.
Speaker 3: So at that point in time, it was already a
Speaker 3: million copies with million point five and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh shit, wow. And then ship time went on. When
Speaker 3: I got the plaque, it was three point five. So
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh ship.
Speaker 2: And then I finally got a check. I got a
Speaker 2: check for the.
Speaker 3: First check, said keep it one. My first check was
Speaker 3: seventy five thousand dollars and I never I never through
Speaker 3: hip hop, I've never received a check over ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: So when I saw that, I fell to pieces because
Speaker 3: I know I don't have a bunch of kids, and
Speaker 3: I know nobody's gonna get under this money. So it's
Speaker 3: gonna work for me and my wife and you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, and my friends like that, right. So
Speaker 3: I didn't have no kids. I had two daughters, and
Speaker 3: so I was cool with that and I went on
Speaker 3: with that. And then after that time went on and
Speaker 3: they said, be well, it's still climbing, and this is
Speaker 3: like two thousand and two. I'm like, still climbing, damn,
Speaker 3: what the fuck? And then kid Rock was blowing up,
Speaker 3: you know, if he was on TV every fucking web,
Speaker 3: and I'm being mine, so my ship is real today,
Speaker 3: you got to check basically. So then when he did that,
Speaker 3: like after a while, I just forgot about the ship
Speaker 3: for a while because you know, it wasn't my ship.
Speaker 3: I seen him on TV.
Speaker 2: I was happy.
Speaker 3: And then they hit me with seventy five million. I
Speaker 3: said what they said? I said, that's more than three platinum.
Speaker 3: They said, b y'all on the almost a diamond And
Speaker 3: I didn't know what the diamond was, well.
Speaker 5: Diamond, ten million, diamond.
Speaker 3: So the only person that was ten million was Hammer Shaggy.
Speaker 3: Shaggy did, what what's that ship?
Speaker 2: It wasn't me.
Speaker 3: It wasn't me. That's what your grammar at that time.
Speaker 3: At that time that that was the only people that
Speaker 3: was diming. I'm like, wow, we almost die, so that's cool.
Speaker 3: And out of that, I'm gonna see damn near half
Speaker 3: a million dollars. I said what, and I just went,
Speaker 3: you know, it's just time went on.
Speaker 5: Then we were letting clear your record. That's that's that's
Speaker 5: the point of the story.
Speaker 2: And that kid rocks real. Mother, we can't say kid
Speaker 2: rocks real. I'm just not saying not basically trying to
Speaker 2: run for.
Speaker 3: Crazy. Now that.
Speaker 5: The thing is, he did represent but at the same token,
Speaker 5: it was like Viz didn't know, he didn't know how
Speaker 5: far it was gonna go, but he did keep it real.
Speaker 3: And this is what I say about D. I go
Speaker 3: back to D because Kumo D started that bullshit in
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight. Yo, yo, bj B put the bob
Speaker 3: to the barll bullshit on hole. I put it on hole.
Speaker 3: I put it on whole to nineteen ninety eight, and
Speaker 3: then I brought it back out and I saw eleven million.
Speaker 6: Cause now I hit Kumo D back with his ship
Speaker 6: because on D made a song all all right, look
Speaker 6: like me now right, okay, hold, because you gave.
Speaker 14: Me the ali Okay, you gave me the allio. How
Speaker 14: did the ship start with you at cool? He was
Speaker 14: jealous because I was getting money. I was a flying
Speaker 14: motherfucker he was. He was with the Treacherous Three. He
Speaker 14: wanted to be a solo MC so in order to
Speaker 14: do that.
Speaker 5: Wait wait wait, because y'all was down together effort no hell,
Speaker 5: he wanted to be sold from his.
Speaker 3: Group right because they had to split that money. Man,
Speaker 3: they made five hundred dollars. Man three motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: Man, I was the highest back then.
Speaker 3: I was the high. It's paid called the solo n C.
Speaker 3: So if I made five hundred, do I made five
Speaker 3: hundred dollars? You gotta remember you got the Cold Crush,
Speaker 3: the Cold Crush four. They made five hundred dollars. God
Speaker 3: you and advantage. You have the Punky four plus one
Speaker 3: more before they made it.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, though, So I'm sing.
Speaker 3: With these groups while they getting checks. They see me
Speaker 3: get my check. They going to White Castle. I'm going
Speaker 3: to be say, Charlie, you know the decision and then
Speaker 3: it went on the Apple Bee's and all that other ship.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. But I was eating doing
Speaker 3: thing like that all on one second.
Speaker 5: Busy Be You're roll, Love you live on the podcast
Speaker 5: Happy Birthday, you live on the podcast where you at
Speaker 5: All Love.
Speaker 3: That's my love, Death Jam, that's my dog. That's why
Speaker 3: you called.
Speaker 5: You're on Houston. I have no idea why you're on.
Speaker 5: You gotta come up town. Sting Rays. We over here
Speaker 5: with Busy Be, nigga, I said, I'm here with Rob Love.
Speaker 5: You know what Busy Be said? He said, Rob Love
Speaker 5: from Death Jam. You gotta come over here with your
Speaker 5: fake death Jam card had sting Grades come through. Happy Birthday,
Speaker 5: Rob Love, you love you like Busy Be on your way.
Speaker 2: Let's go all right? One Love Lil.
Speaker 5: You know him and Port is the only niggas that
Speaker 5: they had the great ship right there, the great shift,
Speaker 5: The great part.
Speaker 3: Went too far.
Speaker 2: I feel like I went to.
Speaker 3: So Busy Be.
Speaker 5: Hip hop has grown soul much right, you've seen it
Speaker 5: from his infant stage. Is there anything that you could say?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 5: If I could do it over again, I would help
Speaker 5: change this part of hip hop.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I would try to keep the corporate people out
Speaker 3: of our business. They jumped into our business and then
Speaker 3: they did that for their sake, for their greed to
Speaker 3: save their companies, to save their jobs. Because the producer
Speaker 3: that found that guy saved his job because he was
Speaker 3: about to lose it because he wasn't creative enough to
Speaker 3: find out something commercialized to make us some money. So
Speaker 3: he found a fake rapper, or he found a real
Speaker 3: rapper and put him on TV and made him some money.
Speaker 3: Now again, I'm not mad at that, but real is real,
Speaker 3: and that other stuff is what y'all want to call it,
Speaker 3: So separate that too. Here here is a real MC
Speaker 3: for hip hop celebrating Coca Cola or Sprite or or Sony,
Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. Or here is a god
Speaker 3: we found that look good blindly blising. Separate that. Let
Speaker 3: us know because hip hop is strong. Man, you come
Speaker 3: to us for everything. Y'all need our help. We got
Speaker 3: the black people, We got the white people that will
Speaker 3: do anything we tell them to do on the record
Speaker 3: if they agree. But if y'all do it the wrong way,
Speaker 3: y'all use us at the end of the day to
Speaker 3: blame us for your fault. And that ain't our fault.
Speaker 3: Rap is something we do. Hip hop is something we live.
Speaker 3: That's what it is, man.
Speaker 2: So if you could change anything, what would it be.
Speaker 3: Again, the corporations tell them to come come see the
Speaker 3: real roots of what y'all are producing on the street
Speaker 3: that's not real. You can help the real people because
Speaker 3: the real people need that help with that same thing
Speaker 3: that you have, that same idea you have. There's a
Speaker 3: real guy that can do that, and if the real
Speaker 3: people see him do that, then they'll believe in what
Speaker 3: you're saying.
Speaker 2: But you got a fake guy doing that. They don't
Speaker 2: even believe him.
Speaker 3: Because that fake guy was on tvm Z that wasn't
Speaker 3: on y'all commercial at this time and told us the
Speaker 3: real shit we gonna want him. Can I ask you
Speaker 3: a question?
Speaker 15: Yeah, do you think that without the corporate people coming
Speaker 15: in the way they came and you think that like
Speaker 15: rappers or musicians to make will be as will make
Speaker 15: as much money.
Speaker 2: As the Yeah, because the talent speaks for self. Okay,
Speaker 2: music speaks for self.
Speaker 3: You got Stevie Wonder records, Ray Charles records that y'all
Speaker 3: still rocking to today, James Brown today. They made them
Speaker 3: forty years ago, so when I'm older than y'all, So
Speaker 3: it speaks for itself. The talent speaks for self, authenticity. Guys.
Speaker 3: You know, the fake stuff don't last. It'll last two years,
Speaker 3: three years. So if you're lucky, then you get caught
Speaker 3: on something and then it's over right, right right. I
Speaker 3: agree with you.
Speaker 2: God damn, I don't even know.
Speaker 3: I'm seventy seven, y'all, it's two seventeen.
Speaker 2: I'm born in seven. I'm forty years old.
Speaker 7: I was born.
Speaker 3: I'm a snoop dogg.
Speaker 7: I was.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let me tell you, clubs, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 5: something about your yourself physic be I've seen you everywhere,
Speaker 5: different countries, different states, different properties, different cities, different whatever.
Speaker 5: And you're always happy. And you always got the weed too.
Speaker 5: You always got the weed. You're always happy. And in
Speaker 5: case you don't understand how important you are to the
Speaker 5: culture or important you are to hip hop, important you are,
Speaker 5: we're gonna tell you tonight, and we're gonna tell you,
Speaker 5: in front of your face, how much we fucking love you.
Speaker 3: How much anywhere I see you, I drop whatever.
Speaker 2: The fuck I'm doing. I'll give you a fucking hug,
Speaker 2: and I'll let you know I love you.
Speaker 5: But in case you didn't know that, or you didn't
Speaker 5: understand how much hip hop has to sit.
Speaker 3: Down and bow to you.
Speaker 5: Literally everybody that's doing hip hop from a Bugie to
Speaker 5: them Jones to whatever.
Speaker 2: When they see you, they should literally go like this.
Speaker 3: Shut up fact.
Speaker 2: And if they don't, I'm gonna do it for them.
Speaker 3: Right now.
Speaker 2: But that's what it is, man.
Speaker 3: I mean at the end of the day, again, that's
Speaker 3: just respect. I respect that and all I can do
Speaker 3: is just keep going. No, but your hip hop riorty,
Speaker 3: that's what's up.
Speaker 5: And the thing about it is if we should all
Speaker 5: bow down to you every single time we see you,
Speaker 5: because you don't ask for your bow that, you don't
Speaker 5: ask for your respect. You just sit there and you
Speaker 5: show love to everybody. I see you, I watch you
Speaker 5: show love to everybody's regardless.
Speaker 2: But that's not tonight. Tonight it is we're showing love.
Speaker 3: To you God with Diamond, that's what's up.
Speaker 2: And he's still getting kid rock money.
Speaker 3: Let's make.
Speaker 5: This nigga listen. Man, you gotta be respected, you gotta
Speaker 5: be saluted. You have to be because in every other
Speaker 5: genre of music, when a person gets old or a
Speaker 5: person has a certain amount of years, they salute them.
Speaker 5: Hip hop is the only genre, the only generation when
Speaker 5: you get older and the mother, well, we got this guy,
Speaker 5: this guy, I want to change that.
Speaker 3: That's what this podcast is about. That's what this ship
Speaker 3: is about.
Speaker 5: Like, yo, let us let us salute us, right because
Speaker 5: we know that. So they've been ticking us. They've been
Speaker 5: telling us you don't know me, yo, yo, why you
Speaker 5: don't interview new artists when I say they got how
Speaker 5: ninety seven right, he got power on five. I choose
Speaker 5: to interview motherfuckers thirty and upright because I want.
Speaker 2: To interview legends. You want to hear the real stories,
Speaker 2: and I want to interview people that innovated me, that
Speaker 2: motivated me and said, you know, I come to the Browns.
Speaker 2: You're brown smitherfucker.
Speaker 3: All these niggas.
Speaker 5: Tomorrow, but smoking but busy me. I don't want you
Speaker 5: to ever forget or ever lose focus on how much
Speaker 5: hip hop you every day.
Speaker 3: That's the only person paid me is kid rock. Hip
Speaker 3: Hop never gave me no you know, I traveled around
Speaker 3: like that. You know, I never got no shows and
Speaker 3: stuff like that regularly on TV show change that.
Speaker 5: We're gonna change that like that, you know, but that's
Speaker 5: what it is. But basically, Bing, I just want you
Speaker 5: to be clear. You're a legend, right, Capone knows your legend.
Speaker 5: If it knows your legend, we all know your legend,
Speaker 5: and we're gonna sit here.
Speaker 3: We're gonna celebrate your life.
Speaker 5: We're gonna celebrate your accolades, We're gonna celebrate your accomplishments,
Speaker 5: and we're gonna celebrate you and for you being who
Speaker 5: you fuck you are and giving your whole life to
Speaker 5: fucking hip hop right history.
Speaker 3: It's just like perfect my birthday, I'm a scorpio. My
Speaker 3: birthday Saturday was Saturday. That's we ain't gonna pop out
Speaker 3: a yeah, we didn't have far.
Speaker 2: We're doing it like that. YO, give me, give me that,
Speaker 2: give me that topic. What is that top?
Speaker 3: That is?
Speaker 16: So?
Speaker 3: So? How did how did the battle go with you?
Speaker 3: And see that wasn't a battle, It wasn't. It was
Speaker 3: called it was called a DJ convention. It was the
Speaker 3: MC and DJ Convention. Was that in nineteen eighty one?
Speaker 3: And that was like when me and AJ we we
Speaker 3: did all of those parties back then. We was the
Speaker 3: one hiring everybody, We was the one paying everybody. And
Speaker 3: then again it was only a handful of us. You
Speaker 3: had the cold crush, you had did all the fantastic fives,
Speaker 3: the four and D it was. It wasn't a lot
Speaker 3: of hence pioneers, why right, so and then you know
Speaker 3: you didn't have a lot. So we used to always
Speaker 3: give conventions and MC convention, so everybody that was in
Speaker 3: m C and the DJ come on that original out
Speaker 3: conference and show love and everything, and then we have
Speaker 3: a little contest on the mic and see we do that,
Speaker 3: and that's what that was.
Speaker 2: That's all. That's all that was.
Speaker 3: No he came at me because I didn't know nothing
Speaker 3: about it. It was like ambush. I got ambushed it
Speaker 3: that night by coom o D two. Where is that?
Speaker 3: After all the thing is over and everybody happy and
Speaker 3: we get ready to party and then the person get on.
Speaker 3: I say, oh, hold y'all, hold up, don't go nowhere.
Speaker 2: We got one more at your event, right, we got
Speaker 2: one more person.
Speaker 3: We got Coolmo D from the Treacher's Tree want to
Speaker 3: get down. And everybody oh okay because they know about
Speaker 3: the treacher stree and then you know, so cool o
Speaker 3: D so Kumo D get on stage. Right, Hey, y'all
Speaker 3: heard about Busy b rocked the party. I give it
Speaker 3: to him.
Speaker 2: He's the greatest of doing this this. But I just
Speaker 2: want to say this, about this and this and that.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, busy beef, but I don't mean.
Speaker 5: To be bold.
Speaker 2: Put the ball, Put the ball bullshit on hold, and
Speaker 2: everybody just starts back.
Speaker 3: Then you know where they say laughing weed to say, oh,
Speaker 3: he's snapping on you. So we say, oh shit, he
Speaker 3: just snapped on busy crazy and everybody went crazy. And
Speaker 3: then he went into his little rhyme and everybody just
Speaker 3: went crazy. And I'm downstairs, I'm smoking weed and drinking champagne,
Speaker 3: doing the same ship right now, and I'm hearing all
Speaker 3: the ship upstairs. I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: And Nigga yr Bez, Oh shit, your MODI upstairs?
Speaker 3: He going off on you. I'm like, you deal. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I knew more D from church the street. Okay, you know,
Speaker 3: but he wasn't no friend of mine, no ship like that.
Speaker 3: You had no idea what he was on you, right? No? No, hell,
Speaker 3: you know the promoter has something to do with it.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm telling you what up.
Speaker 3: And he wanted to leave his group.
Speaker 2: He got tired of spending that money.
Speaker 3: You understand what motherfucker? And you see this, you got
Speaker 3: to be mine and doing getting money all the time, right,
Speaker 3: I was the only I was the highest paid solo
Speaker 3: m C. He said, ship, I gotta try to get
Speaker 3: some of this ship, somebody some retrospects.
Speaker 2: Are you mad at him because he's fat and ugly?
Speaker 3: Day?
Speaker 10: But you know the facilities, and you know, I didn't
Speaker 10: even get to hear the whole scenario into the tape.
Speaker 10: I had to tape the next day and I'm like,
Speaker 10: oh wow, So I had to call him back out
Speaker 10: and come on, you want the battle now?
Speaker 3: We're going to battle now, motherfucker. We go to go
Speaker 3: to the Fever where everybody was at and known for
Speaker 3: the disco Fever. Bring your ass on Jerome avenueomet Yeah,
Speaker 3: bring your ass to the motherland.
Speaker 2: And that's good damn.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: So and then after that people understood, Okay, see rockets back,
Speaker 3: where's from? He's from? He from Harlem? Remember what the juice?
Speaker 3: You remember where the juice with Tupacs right right from there?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You made him come to the Bronx, right, so you
Speaker 3: gotta come to take it from You gotta come to
Speaker 3: the Bronx now. But this is where everybody going to
Speaker 3: be at mud and let's do this ship start from
Speaker 3: a scratch. Then what happened?
Speaker 2: And then I just did what the funk I do?
Speaker 3: So, so what was the boss like when you when
Speaker 3: you came?
Speaker 2: What was the boss.
Speaker 16: I got?
Speaker 3: What was the balls like when you went at them?
Speaker 2: What happened? What was the first thing you said? Bars
Speaker 2: the first because it's deep you want.
Speaker 3: I think I'll be aginning telling him from the streets
Speaker 3: to California to the show is the main people. They're
Speaker 3: like the way I run my game because I got
Speaker 3: style and I got classed, but I don't pop my
Speaker 3: ship too fast, got the PhD, got the master's degree,
Speaker 3: I'm being talked about off for coffee and tea, and
Speaker 3: I float like the butterfly, stain like a beach, and
Speaker 3: there is no other than rocks like me.
Speaker 2: And I think that was about the.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a It wasn't a Battle with the Marie
Speaker 3: in seventy seven. No, no, no, now.
Speaker 2: But you know you know that.
Speaker 7: Also he's involved in one of the first hip hop movies,
Speaker 7: also Wild Style. We didn't talk Wildstyle because that that
Speaker 7: set a whole new HP hop as well, because at
Speaker 7: the end of the day, you got fabulous who is.
Speaker 2: Which is crazy? That and then, so I run into
Speaker 2: people like.
Speaker 3: Fabulous to say, b I watched that movie Wild Style,
Speaker 3: and see, people don't understand when we was rapping back
Speaker 3: in the days after the party, people went home and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. I came to the parties because see,
Speaker 3: you know, we got ouva today, but back then we
Speaker 3: had old Jay's the Godfathers. Those was our uvas today,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So we could pick out
Speaker 3: a luxury car called Godfather Kole Jack. He was from
Speaker 3: the Bronx to get the nice ze, right, which is.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 3: So I when they called me to do that scene,
Speaker 3: I came in that and they when I pulled up
Speaker 3: in that, they said, oh shit, Yo, we're gonna keep
Speaker 3: that right there.
Speaker 2: Yo, this is a documentary right here.
Speaker 3: That's my calf. Driver made a couple extra dollars because
Speaker 3: I said, hey, listen, they gonna pay you a couple
Speaker 3: of dollars, stay with me. And back then with just
Speaker 3: twenty dollars for one hour, and I'm riding around in
Speaker 3: town giving forty dollars. I'm riding around on a limo
Speaker 3: looking like Hollywood anyway from TV. Now, I'm just trying
Speaker 3: to play, you know what I'm saying I'm going to
Speaker 3: the scene in the limos, and they was fucked up
Speaker 3: with that, so.
Speaker 2: They said, let's keep that right there.
Speaker 3: So you know, pull up in that bi you get
Speaker 3: in the car put lically and all that, y'all drink
Speaker 3: the champagne and y'all stay in the car and talk.
Speaker 2: And that's that's how that scene came in.
Speaker 3: When I'm staying saying fabulous, and I was saying, be
Speaker 3: that was the fly ship over the mall.
Speaker 2: You get to the hotel, you put the money on
Speaker 2: the bed, start talking to b ship.
Speaker 3: So they use that as swag back then for me,
Speaker 3: they say, yo, that's some flash because everybody started doing
Speaker 3: that after the whole after they party, they go to
Speaker 3: the hotels, get some girls, smoke some weed, get some
Speaker 3: champagne and go to the hotel.
Speaker 2: Because that's what I did in the scene, and I
Speaker 2: want to throw it out there. My peep was Burgundy
Speaker 2: just now definitely definitely sick in a different way.
Speaker 6: My friend.
Speaker 2: That it came up burgerdy, that it came out looking
Speaker 2: like that loud fuck job your stuff back. You got drink.
Speaker 2: He was way too loud over there. You you can
Speaker 2: do the Hennessy ship. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Almost Champagne got me.
Speaker 2: That's why we connected. Don't get that. Don't get that.
Speaker 2: Every time you drinking, you're a Champagne nigga.
Speaker 5: I remember.
Speaker 3: School nigga drinking smet.
Speaker 2: You want to do some rock you drink? You know
Speaker 2: you know that rock rose?
Speaker 5: You said, normally drink flowers. Give listen, listen, got to relax.
Speaker 5: The reason why I starting this show is we want
Speaker 5: to give our legends. They flowers when they can smell them.
Speaker 5: They they trees when they get hello, the trees when
Speaker 5: they get hello.
Speaker 2: The drinks and they thoughts when they can think of them,
Speaker 2: and they drinks.
Speaker 3: When they can drinking.
Speaker 2: I'm drinking mine, man.
Speaker 13: Better because we are sting Raised. Let's not forget where
Speaker 13: we are. U s a sting rais drink chances and.
Speaker 3: Up you look.
Speaker 2: Look do you see him the owner?
Speaker 3: He got spur.
Speaker 2: Yeah that jingle. I think you're walking around ding ding
Speaker 2: You know I to a ram, but I say, sperm
Speaker 2: right here, right here, you.
Speaker 3: Only put your.
Speaker 2: The only country nigga love jackons sting Raise.
Speaker 3: What's the address? Give us the address?
Speaker 5: One fifty fifth Avenue, twenty one fifty fifth Avenue.
Speaker 17: If you never had lemon wings. I don't know what
Speaker 17: kind of wings this, but rocher joints, so rocher. I'm
Speaker 17: not gonna lie. I finger lick to my liquors. I
Speaker 17: have no idea what I meant, but it's so fantastic.
Speaker 8: The wings go.
Speaker 3: And this guy he's such sting rays. You gotta come
Speaker 3: up here. You gotta come up You gotta come up here.
Speaker 2: You gotta visit me.
Speaker 3: I'm here in Harlem, y'all. You this is your first
Speaker 3: time the sting rays? Yes, my first time. Okay, well
Speaker 3: it won't be it won't be.
Speaker 2: Yes, And you see we got the magnums might move.
Speaker 2: Happy birthday.
Speaker 3: We love you know. But I didn't see it that
Speaker 3: far in the beginning, Okay, I didn't think like that.
Speaker 3: I just thought it was almost something, almost something like
Speaker 3: what our parents was talking about.
Speaker 2: It's a fade. It's not gonna last you like that.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't. And then because I saw the Pepsi
Speaker 3: commercial quick you know Mter Freeze from the Breakdancers. He
Speaker 3: did a commercial with Pepsi and they had a movie
Speaker 3: called Flash Dance. And when I saw that, I said,
Speaker 3: it's on I knew it was on because if they
Speaker 3: started with the breakdancers, they're going to get to the
Speaker 3: m c's. And they did with Sprite. Sprite made us rich,
Speaker 3: Sprite made us happy, you know. And then it went
Speaker 3: on from Sony.
Speaker 2: One of the life big sponsors and their Gap. You know,
Speaker 2: they start they started reaching out. Then Gap got ahold
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: So whoever is that was in those industries that was
Speaker 3: the corporate person that had to make commercials or to
Speaker 3: make their person some money, they came to hip hop
Speaker 3: to save their jobs and to save you know, help
Speaker 3: us get money, but to save their jobs. So if
Speaker 3: they was making one hundred thousand a year for what
Speaker 3: they was doing, when they finally found a rapper or
Speaker 3: a breakdancer or an MC to help their people make
Speaker 3: some more money, they probably presidents now somewhere.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Now most artists I probablyized to cutting you off from
Speaker 5: my brother, but most artists that has been down as
Speaker 5: long as you've been down.
Speaker 3: People say that they're better, right, They say that most
Speaker 3: of these gods, some.
Speaker 2: Of them are, some of them all I bump into
Speaker 2: my peers. Yes they are, and they have good reason
Speaker 2: to be better.
Speaker 3: Do you think no, Because again, if I can wait,
Speaker 3: I'm just like you. I am you be together your period.
Speaker 3: If you haven't just bumped into the right person at
Speaker 3: that right time, or if you're not running around to
Speaker 3: chase what what we invented to let people know who
Speaker 3: you are, then you're not going to get it because
Speaker 3: nobody's gonna wake up.
Speaker 2: And say, oh well, I thought about BLO and call you.
Speaker 3: But if they see you, you got to create your
Speaker 3: own look.
Speaker 2: And if they see you and.
Speaker 3: You look like you're supposed to look, because I mean again,
Speaker 3: I'm a double nickel. I'm still happy, I'm still drinking champagne,
Speaker 3: I'm still smoking the same shit. I mean, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: But but why?
Speaker 5: Because I mean, to be honest with you, your attitude
Speaker 5: is one of the most beautifulest pie is ever right,
Speaker 5: So why like you like.
Speaker 3: The pickest lid? Why are you like Okay, I'll do
Speaker 3: it like this, Okay, hip hop changed when we'll be
Speaker 3: the Negro League, not the major league, not the major league,
Speaker 3: and you got the.
Speaker 18: Negro League league and then we came I would be
Speaker 18: sat you page in the Negro League and I'm fucking
Speaker 18: He's a famous picture still top grade and he was
Speaker 18: at the top of his prime.
Speaker 3: But he was forty, right, Jackie Robinson. Jackie Robinson was
Speaker 3: twenty right, he was younger. That'll be run in d
Speaker 3: m C right for me killed.
Speaker 2: They came out with the second three.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to whereas they said, Okay, we want to
Speaker 3: make records and put ourself, but you too old because
Speaker 3: maybe I had face shoes stuff on my face and
Speaker 3: you cut that. That wouldn't appeal to the people as
Speaker 3: we put on TV for our stuff. So these young
Speaker 3: guys can save the suck MC and then they got
Speaker 3: the didas with no strings. Nobody was doing none of
Speaker 3: these things to people start wearing. The coaches start changing
Speaker 3: because people start hearing these songs and hearing these people,
Speaker 3: they started visualizing seeing it. It was a difference. See,
Speaker 3: MTV wasn't showing what we was doing. They got a
Speaker 3: chance to people start seeing that. The Beastie Boys didn't
Speaker 3: even wasn't on the radio. So they sold a million
Speaker 3: copies of records. How because they was being seen on
Speaker 3: TV where we couldn't see it. Black folks didn't have cable.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question.
Speaker 5: Right, that was the yard era of hip hop right
Speaker 5: and in my in my mind, I could be wrong,
Speaker 5: and you correct me anytime. But then NAS came out
Speaker 5: with it out right, and when Nanas came out with
Speaker 5: out in my mind.
Speaker 3: But we had MTV, we had your MTV rats, we
Speaker 3: had Ralph McDaniels, we had more rights.
Speaker 5: But when n came well to me, it felt like
Speaker 5: to me and I could be wrong, and you can
Speaker 5: tell me you're totally wrong, but I wonder I would
Speaker 5: love your opinion. When Nask that album came up, did
Speaker 5: it change the error like it changed the course of
Speaker 5: hip hop?
Speaker 2: You know, it changed the east Side. It came back
Speaker 2: to it the east side.
Speaker 3: It helps what you just said.
Speaker 2: It came back with the east Side to Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now you gotta talk that fly ship, that real ship,
Speaker 3: because this kid here is bananas. If you ain't talking
Speaker 3: with this motherfucker talking about then you just making records.
Speaker 3: But if you're trying to be a hit, follow this
Speaker 3: motherfucker right here, and that's what's happening.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel I feel so hip hop right there,
Speaker 5: because that's exactly the way I would have answered that
Speaker 5: question and make some thought.
Speaker 2: Now compone, you're here, Boom, why are you coupon.
Speaker 3: How you doing?
Speaker 8: How you doing, black man?
Speaker 3: I'm good.
Speaker 2: You got you drinking a lot of ship you too,
Speaker 2: and you're looking good. And we made you change your
Speaker 2: shirt earlier.
Speaker 3: Keep it.
Speaker 2: I didn't change it.
Speaker 3: Change. Don't say why.
Speaker 8: We're not going to say why, so change my shirt?
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 5: So hip hop, so hip hop, hip hop has gave
Speaker 5: so much to everybody, right, what does hip hop owe anybody?
Speaker 3: Well? Hip hop owe me nothing, really, because I mean.
Speaker 2: This hip hop anybody anything, Well.
Speaker 3: I doubt it because I've been around the planet and
Speaker 3: I'm not in the army, never been in the army, Navy, Marines,
Speaker 3: and I've seen all I've seen.
Speaker 2: I've been around the planet. The only place I haven't
Speaker 2: been on this planet Earth is Russia.
Speaker 3: I've been to Russia.
Speaker 2: It's not great. It was the worst experience of my lify, Okay.
Speaker 3: And I don't want to go. Don't go, trust me,
Speaker 3: don't go to Africa. In Africa, I mean, everybody say,
Speaker 3: be you got to go, but I don't want to
Speaker 3: go because they say you got to take news.
Speaker 2: I'm scared of it. I'm gonna be there. You gotta
Speaker 2: get that, you gotta.
Speaker 7: Come to.
Speaker 3: So those are only two places I haven't been. I've
Speaker 3: been to Australia, I've been to Germany. I've been to London.
Speaker 3: I've been been like several places there with you right
Speaker 3: right here, I've been everywhere. But other than that hip hop,
Speaker 3: do me up, because I saw the I saw the
Speaker 3: world to where I can come home and tell my friend,
Speaker 3: I understand where that Chinese person don't want to talk
Speaker 3: to you because I understand. I've been to China to
Speaker 3: where it's like now I understand where I'm in America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all got me now because I say, hey, you.
Speaker 3: Give me French fries and and they don't understand me
Speaker 3: till where you're in America, you just know short fried
Speaker 3: rice and that's what you want, and they're going to
Speaker 3: serve you that. So now when you for something different,
Speaker 3: I said, hey, do you know where Tony City at?
Speaker 3: I gotta go to that And they say shoe Shane Shange,
Speaker 3: Shane height. I said, is that that way? Height? That
Speaker 3: means no, motherfucker, I'm going that way. He said, yeah, Hey, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, yeah, that's the right way to go. That's
Speaker 3: the wrong motherfucker. So you know, you learn coaches you learn,
Speaker 3: so when they come back, that's there and you go
Speaker 3: to certain places and say, all right, hold up, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna respect everything you want me to do, so I
Speaker 3: get the right ship. You know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you ain't trying to
Speaker 3: listen to what they're saying. They trying to talk to you,
Speaker 3: dcent you still distance your dissing them. They hear that ship,
Speaker 3: but you don't hear that ship they telling you.
Speaker 5: So you know you have the bandage us one hundred
Speaker 5: percent the truth because I kid you not. I'm in Absida.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 5: I said the story earlier. But I went to the
Speaker 5: bike lane, this mad bike lane, so I stopped. Somebody
Speaker 5: in the bike land said you know what to get cigars?
Speaker 5: The busy beacon downstairs, and I was stressed. He looked
Speaker 5: at me and said, what's wrong, little nigga. In my mind,
Speaker 5: that's what he said. I said, I find no fucking cigars,
Speaker 5: no please, And he said you want.
Speaker 2: Papers, because you have papers? Want papers.
Speaker 5: I said, I'm a cigar, nigga, Come on, and then
Speaker 5: Nigga said follow me and he and not only he
Speaker 5: gave me.
Speaker 3: Cigars, well, he also showed me that Marlborough Greens. It's
Speaker 3: new points and you're right, make some.
Speaker 2: Noise that.
Speaker 3: Said. I said, he's the same ship. I said, give me,
Speaker 3: he said, give me, he stops, he said, oh ship,
Speaker 3: don't give me another pack.
Speaker 5: Listen, man, I can't appreciate you so much because the
Speaker 5: thing about it is this, But me and my partner
Speaker 5: E f N started this podcast. We wanted to honor
Speaker 5: our legends. We wanted to honor our pioneers. We wanted
Speaker 5: to honor the people that most people don't really look
Speaker 5: at and say, salute you and the people that inspired
Speaker 5: us and the people.
Speaker 3: That inspired us.
Speaker 5: So when we have a person like you in the
Speaker 5: building busy for want the fucking be we want to
Speaker 5: salute you.
Speaker 19: I want to let you know how much you appreciate.
Speaker 19: I want to thank you all for the block party.
Speaker 19: I feel right party pop.
Speaker 2: That magnum to because these two is going with like.
Speaker 3: Both right part we can't P'm gonna take this to
Speaker 3: the cribs. Keep that.
Speaker 2: I'm dropping that right now. Drink that.
Speaker 3: Drink that I gotta give it to Mike.
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen to me, right yeah, right back to me
Speaker 2: and the wife. We don't got no more about us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we gotta take a shot. We gotta take a
Speaker 5: shot down. Come on, take a shot, take a shot.
Speaker 5: Come on, where where the shot glasses?
Speaker 9: Come on?
Speaker 5: Brother, you've been looking at me the old time to
Speaker 5: make sure I'm good. And the shotglass bar you're not
Speaker 5: You're not involved.
Speaker 3: He did not kill that.
Speaker 2: You're a busy Bee man.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you something again. I thank y'all man,
Speaker 3: and then I int mind like this, let's not get
Speaker 3: it twisted. I am hip hop and I have always
Speaker 3: existed throughout these physical forms, in these new presents and times. Yes,
Speaker 3: I am still the chief rock of busy Bee. He
Speaker 3: don't want to thank y'all for y'all time. I want
Speaker 3: to big up.
Speaker 5: I want to big up my people zero minus. I
Speaker 5: want the bigger my people, Mike Bull, I want the
Speaker 5: bigg up chin being. Because at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: we didn't know that hip hop started out in the
Speaker 5: Bronx and Queen's right, because we listened to mc shan
Speaker 5: record he said hip hop started out on the dark,
Speaker 5: and we thought we really did it started there. But
Speaker 5: then when we did our research and we realized that
Speaker 5: it did start the bronx. The only thing we can
Speaker 5: do as human beings. It is big that up and
Speaker 5: sit there and respect it. But let me let me
Speaker 5: finish because you know why I want you to let
Speaker 5: me finish is because our legends don't be saluted. Our
Speaker 5: legends never is looked upon as if.
Speaker 2: As if they shouldn't.
Speaker 5: This is the problem with hip hop, Busy b is
Speaker 5: when you get old, when you get whatever, these people
Speaker 5: wanted to tell you.
Speaker 3: To go home, right, that's changed that.
Speaker 2: Me and you can do this. I'll tell you what. No,
Speaker 2: we're changing it right now, changing it right now. What
Speaker 2: we're doing. Let me finish business because you know why.
Speaker 5: Because in drink Champs, you don't have a fucking age, right,
Speaker 5: you don't have a fucking liability.
Speaker 2: That's what's up.
Speaker 5: We're sitting here and we fucking respect our fucking legends
Speaker 5: and we love them.
Speaker 2: This poem gun on the yellow hat.
Speaker 5: I have no idea why I just do that out there, right,
Speaker 5: ship hard yellow hat is hard for busy me. You
Speaker 5: one of the pioneers I see everywhere, and you always smiling,
Speaker 5: You're always happy, you always sit there and you show
Speaker 5: me love. And if I have a platform where I
Speaker 5: can give love back, and EFN could give a love back.
Speaker 3: There's no motherfucking way in the history.
Speaker 2: Of niggerdom.
Speaker 5: That I will not have this platform and not show
Speaker 5: you the love that you fucking respect you deserve. I
Speaker 5: appreciate that and you fucking honored. We on behalf of
Speaker 5: all of us because the CNEFN CNE, Drink Champs, Murder Unit,
Speaker 5: Dog Down, Millertainment, crazy Hood, crazy Hood one Left, Rock City,
Speaker 5: right fifty seven and a Vernon Boulevard, Tim Street, Twelfth Street,
Speaker 5: we all want to collectively come together and say busy Be,
Speaker 5: we love you absolutely, We're going to continue to love you.
Speaker 5: And tonight I wanted you to be my guest host.
Speaker 5: I wanted him to help host rock him.
Speaker 3: But but.
Speaker 5: Right, But guess what that means, That that that that
Speaker 5: this is not going to end. We're going to continue
Speaker 5: to do it. It's sting rays. What's the addressing race?
Speaker 5: Get twenty one, fifty come over here, nigger, come over here.
Speaker 2: You know you say it, Mike say it, even Mike
Speaker 2: twenty one. We're gonna come ahead and stay with and
Speaker 2: Harlem and we're gonna do.
Speaker 5: It because you know why if the people ain't gonna
Speaker 5: respect our people. Guess what, fuck them people, and we're
Speaker 5: going to continue to respect our own people.
Speaker 2: Right and Busy Be. We want you to know you
Speaker 2: could come anytime you want to.
Speaker 3: Come, right.
Speaker 2: You can guess host, you can co host, you can
Speaker 2: bro host. I'm coming man, You can do.
Speaker 5: Whatever you want because you want to see the impact
Speaker 5: that this has when you on here.
Speaker 2: But we love you, Busy Be. Thank you.
Speaker 3: We will never ever ever stop loving you. And hip
Speaker 3: hop has to love you as well has one coca.
Speaker 3: So he got give me my Oh my god, you know,
Speaker 3: I feel like I gotta relax the phone.
Speaker 8: What I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You ready? Shallow Lollo? What busy b one? Two?
Speaker 2: Great business? God he killed that he got? Oh dear
Speaker 2: the fell right other stuff, the.
Speaker 3: Chase hang what baby?
Speaker 2: That one lets I feel like dark day?
Speaker 3: So we got another.
Speaker 2: Let me tell tell my niggas. Forty dames were you
Speaker 2: at I'm.
Speaker 3: Come Monday?
Speaker 20: You know over there right right right right one nigga
Speaker 20: you got get right right one nigga w forty forty thieves,
Speaker 20: Big Dude's forty thieves.
Speaker 3: Rest in peace.
Speaker 2: Small and Brando we love.
Speaker 16: Camera.
Speaker 3: Everybody makes him.
Speaker 21: Now, So what's going on my brother being a part
Speaker 21: of the legendary You were signed the violator, correct, No, No.
Speaker 22: We were signed to initially rough House, RockA Block Columbia initially,
Speaker 22: and then rough House dropped out and there was RockA
Speaker 22: Block Columbia.
Speaker 5: So how does it feel, man? You got there'll be
Speaker 5: because you're still a hip hop legend. People you gotta
Speaker 5: respect you.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're a legend.
Speaker 23: But one thing that I want to say is rest
Speaker 23: in peace to my man Molon Brando. We salute a
Speaker 23: lot of a lot of our fully heroes. My Man
Speaker 23: Brando died a hero.
Speaker 5: A lot of people play into that, explain that, well,
Speaker 5: you know, we we should, we should live up a
Speaker 5: lot of hip.
Speaker 2: Hop heroes that.
Speaker 3: Got murdered. My man died saving a child, God bless
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So he's a hero, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And and you want to detail all that exactly how
Speaker 2: that happened.
Speaker 3: Well, so that would be somebody in the hip hop
Speaker 3: culture that represented we we we remember I remember with
Speaker 3: Tom christ right right and not and be more right
Speaker 3: so so so so at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: when when you say that that's one of the members
Speaker 3: of the group passed away.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, Chris hit me with that. And so so
Speaker 2: when you say.
Speaker 3: Because he is a member of the hip hop culture,
Speaker 3: you know, doubt and sporty thieves exactly that, and and
Speaker 3: and and we a shout out that. But then you
Speaker 3: said that he did something and my brother, he did.
Speaker 23: His selfless love, selfless, selfless as which is super dope,
Speaker 23: super dope.
Speaker 3: Right. Unfortunately, the culture that we live in, right, took
Speaker 3: him out for that. People.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, What what I'm saying is for
Speaker 2: hip hop, right, a lot of people get killed.
Speaker 3: It's part of it's part of the culture that we live. Right.
Speaker 3: For someone to.
Speaker 23: See a car coming, push a little kid out the
Speaker 23: way and take that head, that's super dope.
Speaker 3: That's that's super dope, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean. And we didn't you know, sporty thieves,
Speaker 2: chief skate pigeons and all that.
Speaker 24: We do have a illustrated career whatever, but you have
Speaker 24: we have we have a hero for hip right, And
Speaker 24: that's what you know what I mean, right, That's that's
Speaker 24: what's And.
Speaker 3: Never hear.
Speaker 2: King Kurt was gonna happy birthday, King Kurt know, And
Speaker 2: what I gotta say to you because I feel like
Speaker 2: you need to hear this as well.
Speaker 25: You shout it us out on the podcast before when
Speaker 25: he was talking about the whole hip hop union and
Speaker 25: all that, which was super dope, which.
Speaker 3: We need, we need, we need.
Speaker 5: Well, I want to say it to you in your face. Okay,
Speaker 5: sporty things, you your whole brother, your union. You'll appreciated,
Speaker 5: of course.
Speaker 16: Right.
Speaker 3: We love Y's right, and we love hip hop.
Speaker 8: That's right.
Speaker 5: And we love hip hop and we love we love
Speaker 5: love my brother. What I want to do is to
Speaker 5: make hip hop shoulders.
Speaker 3: I love you.
Speaker 26: And hold on, hold hold hold on, hold on you know,
Speaker 26: you know we just shows together all that. Yeah, I
Speaker 26: just want to say, yo, I'm.
Speaker 3: Proud of you, my brother, thank you. So I'm proud
Speaker 3: of you, my brother. Thank you. So Yo, we got Rob.
Speaker 6: And I did.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something, Robbing. Rob can't go bath,
Speaker 3: Rob Daddy, Rob puff Daddy.
Speaker 5: And my mother has the same fucking birthday, So I
Speaker 5: always text you two days before your birthday.
Speaker 2: I always seasons here.
Speaker 27: I always hit Rob mother fucking Rob Love in the
Speaker 27: buildings and Rob Love when he when he had it,
Speaker 27: he had it, and he was holding us down here.
Speaker 7: Artist me on the on the promo side, and we
Speaker 7: girls all waiting were all today. I love you to.
Speaker 2: Drink yap side.
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 2: How you feeling?
Speaker 3: Rob great man?
Speaker 2: Great to do you nineteen nineteen and a half and
Speaker 2: half and half half older me half someone that.
Speaker 4: Look, man, can I can we do a birthday shotty?
Speaker 3: My love?
Speaker 2: He said, is good with me?
Speaker 3: BF? Did he work birthday?
Speaker 19: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that's how I get it.
Speaker 3: You got to take you.
Speaker 2: You were really good.
Speaker 3: I got you know what. I'm not a.
Speaker 2: Dickhead, and I'm waiting the end.
Speaker 3: I represented. So did he changed his name?
Speaker 2: But lovedy man? Probably so?
Speaker 3: Did he?
Speaker 2: Did he change his name?
Speaker 3: And love?
Speaker 2: Did he change his name?
Speaker 4: Love?
Speaker 2: I appreciate that respect that.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: I respect that in front of you and let.
Speaker 3: Anybody up. You're my man.
Speaker 16: I need some wings and my other shrimp joints. Shrimp
Speaker 16: joints off the chain. You want to shout this mother
Speaker 16: shouting shot holdie.
Speaker 3: So lit'sten.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: I gotta speak.
Speaker 3: I gotta speak, single bro, tell these people they gotta relax.
Speaker 2: Hold up, listen, go ahead, the fact is.
Speaker 5: We are representing hip hop every single moment of our
Speaker 5: fucking show, and hip hop will be represented every single morning.
Speaker 3: Off can shut and Rob Love. If we don't.
Speaker 5: Represent you, we ain't hip hop. Rob Love, we love you.
Speaker 5: I don't know why I'm taking the another shot.
Speaker 2: It's not the business.
Speaker 3: Got not win them. It's not good.
Speaker 2: Daniel is amazing, but not right now. I'm sorry.
Speaker 8: That's not a good.
Speaker 2: That's not at what you did today.
Speaker 5: What was going on?
Speaker 4: Went to the fight, you know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 4: was like a Tyson fight, real real ship. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It was exciting, you know what I mean? The first
Speaker 3: thing I did got up let.
Speaker 2: Us ask you.
Speaker 5: Let's actually because you know this is industry ship. How
Speaker 5: did you get in the business? Music business?
Speaker 4: Rob loves and foremost I wanted to be like Yo,
Speaker 4: I wanted to rap you got I got bars, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna do it. Come on, brother, I'm busy being I'm
Speaker 4: justa do anything. I'm behind the ropes, washing sneaking up
Speaker 4: on the Bronx and the last few bars. But you
Speaker 4: know there was better bars out there, so I said, hey,
Speaker 4: let me go behind the scenes. You know, what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: I know what the bars will do, but if you
Speaker 4: do it better then I do it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you do it. I'm not gonna say nah,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it, and I'm just gonna be better
Speaker 3: than you. I'm gonna say, Yo, I'm gonna let you
Speaker 3: do it, but I'm do it this way or go
Speaker 3: or put it over here.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And that's how I kind of like caught the bug.
Speaker 3: And I was like, damn, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You need promotion, don king in it, and then you
Speaker 3: need marketing.
Speaker 4: Then you need a budget, then you need a platform,
Speaker 4: then you need a label, then you need T shirts.
Speaker 3: You you know what I'm saying, your dudes in the
Speaker 3: hoods and T shirts. That's definitely the greatest marketing plan
Speaker 3: I heard.
Speaker 2: He just broke down the whole market, the greatest market and.
Speaker 3: Most and most most of most of the cats that
Speaker 3: worked with me a death chain. They they were all
Speaker 3: wrappers or producers. You know, Skis because.
Speaker 28: On my team he started producing for you know what
Speaker 28: I'm saying. You know, on my team you're trying to say,
Speaker 28: you know what I'm saying, No, I you know I
Speaker 28: helped it. You gotta pass telling them you made that?
Speaker 3: Bro to who you said it? Tell no, I didn't
Speaker 3: make that getting together No no, No, that wasn't one doing,
Speaker 3: not at all.
Speaker 29: Okay, it's awkward. This is an awkward conversation. Just the energy,
Speaker 29: just the energy of the people that was, you know
Speaker 29: what I'm saying, supporting the team you know, you know
Speaker 29: went on to do different.
Speaker 3: What's your favorite era? Hiprop rock? I don't think I
Speaker 3: reached it yet.
Speaker 2: He's optimistic now he's dope.
Speaker 3: So you want to say that when you wasn't running
Speaker 3: around with death jam, that wasn't your favorite? Eerr, I
Speaker 3: think that was my sleep era.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because you know you also
Speaker 4: called up caught up in the passion of it.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You know, the light wasn't bright enough for me to
Speaker 4: be waked to see all the business things that opportunities
Speaker 4: that could and the other opportunity.
Speaker 3: No, we created other opportunities, but you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Just like.
Speaker 4: Just like hip hop, when people were putting Hennessy and
Speaker 4: different products into their lyrics, they didn't know that there.
Speaker 3: Was a check that they were supposed to get.
Speaker 4: Even the people that made Hennessy didn't know why they was,
Speaker 4: you know, selling a whole lot of more Hennessy for
Speaker 4: some apparent reason. I wasn't in their marketing playing that
Speaker 4: ship came from the streets, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So once they started evaluating the street, then they said, hey,
Speaker 4: the street guys are under something. We need to throw
Speaker 4: some money into them. And hip hop started eating everything
Speaker 4: that was in the Let me give.
Speaker 3: You a Rob Love story and after you, I want
Speaker 3: to have a person.
Speaker 2: Busy Bee, come over here, Busy you ain't got you got?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know what?
Speaker 5: Look look let me tell you. Let me tell you
Speaker 5: Rob Love right, I had a record, no records.
Speaker 3: You're not go home boy.
Speaker 5: I came to the party, had that record, I think
Speaker 5: right now, you know, and I went to everybody and
Speaker 5: I played it to them.
Speaker 3: They was like, that's it go. When I went to
Speaker 3: Rob Love's office.
Speaker 5: And I played it and Rob and you could stop
Speaker 5: me anytime lying. I played it for Rob Love. Now
Speaker 5: mind you, I'm supposed to play it for leol. I'm
Speaker 5: supposed to play it for Kevin Lows. When I came
Speaker 5: to Rob Love's office and Rob Love said, I played
Speaker 5: it for Rob Love. You tell me from lying at
Speaker 5: any moment. And Rob Love said, we're going to Flex tonight.
Speaker 2: That's what's you. You stopped me from lying at any point?
Speaker 2: And I said, damn, I kind of played for lee
Speaker 2: Or and Kevin Lys and.
Speaker 3: Rob said, fuck him. Stop at the point you stopping.
Speaker 1: I didn't say fuck the check right, No, I didn't
Speaker 1: say that, but in my mind I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: freaking what happened. What happened was okay, please?
Speaker 3: What happened was.
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 3: So you know, we just did came off the Grimy
Speaker 3: tour and we went all across the country. We should
Speaker 3: get up, ship the streets up, you know.
Speaker 6: It was dark.
Speaker 4: And then we came back and it was trying to
Speaker 4: schedule the album, right, nobody stopping. No one was scheduling
Speaker 4: the album.
Speaker 3: And it was like okay, and he was no.
Speaker 2: He was concerned.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, yo, but what do you got? What
Speaker 3: you got in your back pocket?
Speaker 2: And he was like, yo, I got this for real record,
Speaker 2: let me hear it.
Speaker 3: So I throw it in.
Speaker 4: Two seconds later, I'm like, so I called Flex automatically.
Speaker 4: It's just like I said, talling, Yo, yoe, he got
Speaker 4: the record. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Let's be clear. He says, YO, bring it to me.
Speaker 3: So at the time, now the station was.
Speaker 2: A little off limits. What happened.
Speaker 3: Happened.
Speaker 2: It was a shootout that I have no idea what.
Speaker 3: Happened was, but anyway, he wasn't allowed to come into
Speaker 3: the hot night it was.
Speaker 4: So we get to the station, We run out the building,
Speaker 4: you know, fools beat ahead. Get to the station and
Speaker 4: Flex opens a crack to.
Speaker 9: The door, like a crack, like, YO, give me the record.
Speaker 9: So we just lid it through the crack of the
Speaker 9: door and we went back downstairs.
Speaker 4: So we listening, like you know what I'm saying, seven
Speaker 4: o'clock comes you nothing going on.
Speaker 3: There's nothing going on, And I was like, yo, fuck that,
Speaker 3: I'm out here. So he leaves back. I said, fuck it,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get some nice So then basket Robbins get
Speaker 3: his life drink.
Speaker 2: And then and the calls me like, yo, you know
Speaker 2: listening to the radios?
Speaker 3: No why He's like, YO, you're gonna turn on the radio.
Speaker 4: Flex was just talking for about half an hour straight,
Speaker 4: just telling people.
Speaker 3: I think this is where he probably got the Yo,
Speaker 3: if you're on the west side all the way, if you,
Speaker 3: if you, if you, if you, if you're doing something
Speaker 3: right now. It was a different it was a.
Speaker 2: Different wave right listen.
Speaker 3: Even for Flex to announce this record, it was so discussed.
Speaker 5: He was telling his poll over you niggas don't deserve
Speaker 5: to be driving and still into this record.
Speaker 4: So he's like, yo, I'm not going to commercial.
Speaker 3: So he fucked up hot night. He's having money on
Speaker 3: the advertisement side. He's like, yea, listen, I'm gonna talk
Speaker 3: about this record.
Speaker 4: Right now, and then he goes, yo, norwy, I need
Speaker 4: to hold this. So now everybody young was listening to
Speaker 4: Flex whatever you played it and drop bombs on. They like, Yo,
Speaker 4: that ship better be in my inbox. Philly was calling.
Speaker 3: Everybody's calling me, yo, what's up to this record?
Speaker 5: Because because Flex is playing with a record saying big
Speaker 5: Rob Love.
Speaker 3: So now he's in the building that was Flex with
Speaker 3: the the bus that wasn't me, so that he was
Speaker 3: on me for the record, right. So when I was like,
Speaker 3: when they pulled me in the office, yo, what's up.
Speaker 3: He's just taking record.
Speaker 2: It's going to radio.
Speaker 3: The fuck you think I can?
Speaker 4: No, I didn't why because the world needed to hear
Speaker 4: that record. The world needed to hear what the fuck
Speaker 4: I heard, which was nothing. Now that sounds crazy like
Speaker 4: hearing nothing, but that ship was the bomb.
Speaker 3: Yo, listen to me.
Speaker 5: Rob looked at me and said, we gotta go tonight.
Speaker 5: This is I went and played the records the four
Speaker 5: role and then all the CEOs was like, this is
Speaker 5: this one, and then Rob Loves came to me and said, listen,
Speaker 5: fuck everybody, we're going to flex tonight.
Speaker 3: I said sure.
Speaker 5: Because we had just got the master back, and Rob said, yes,
Speaker 5: we're going tonight. Fuck them and I could one hundred
Speaker 5: percent tel me and you was both in show damn.
Speaker 3: So we was so in trouble. So I made sure
Speaker 3: that it wasn't get that slip record.
Speaker 2: Technically. You definitely I did give it.
Speaker 3: Were definitely blamed it on me.
Speaker 5: It was my idea, but they never ever ever complained
Speaker 5: about it because it worked and Rob Love, we.
Speaker 4: Want to thank you for that ten thousand plus plays
Speaker 4: on commercial radio. It opened up the budget, the album
Speaker 4: was scheduled, he went on another tour.
Speaker 3: The money opened up. We just it was nothing but love.
Speaker 3: We love you, We love you.
Speaker 2: I want to take it down twenty notches. This is
Speaker 2: personal actually a personal question.
Speaker 3: No, it's not that serious. Maybe is not gonna.
Speaker 7: Probably air this part bucket but online version. But when
Speaker 7: when when you hired us to be me to be
Speaker 7: the street team manager in Miami?
Speaker 30: Definitely let me let me just yeah, because I'm going
Speaker 30: to say my brother, my younger brother, I'm a little
Speaker 30: old man and we're born on the same day and
Speaker 30: you know, you know.
Speaker 3: But definitely, where is going.
Speaker 4: I don't even know where he's going with yeah ship,
Speaker 4: if it wasn't deaf, it wasn't ship.
Speaker 3: Good, so that boy is good too.
Speaker 7: I ain't gonna you know, but it's my question because
Speaker 7: this is I've been debating this in my I don't
Speaker 7: know where this goes. I know when because I was
Speaker 7: working the Tommy Boy account when when they was in
Speaker 7: penalty and when he moved over, he told me, I'm going.
Speaker 3: To bring you over.
Speaker 7: I want you to work my ship at death jam
Speaker 7: but also my homie rest in peace, Doc Fresh.
Speaker 3: Yes, and matter of fact, his birthday is today too.
Speaker 3: That is my brother.
Speaker 7: And he told me also he I'm gonna give you
Speaker 7: the account. So I want to know because it's It's like,
Speaker 7: I don't know how did it happen? Was it a
Speaker 7: combination of both?
Speaker 4: I can tell you absolutely, I'll tell you exactly what happened.
Speaker 4: But let me just salute you, Gene, Doc Fresh, Robinson
Speaker 4: and Fat Green shout out to him, d J Well
Speaker 4: trust you negatives in Miami. And the interesting thing about
Speaker 4: Doc Fresh, he.
Speaker 2: Told me he had a rapper fat Man Promotions is his.
Speaker 3: Tram fat Man Promotion.
Speaker 4: He told me he had a rapper that he wanted
Speaker 4: me to look at because he he knew that he'd
Speaker 4: be a great fit for death Cham And before I
Speaker 4: can go down and sign Florider, Doctor Fresh passed away.
Speaker 4: So rest in peace to Doc Fresh fat Man Promotions.
Speaker 4: But to answer your question, yes, he said to me.
Speaker 4: He said to Lee, he's in too me.
Speaker 16: If anybody has a car parked on Fifth Avenue, this
Speaker 16: is drink Cha is the way it goes down Fifth
Speaker 16: Avenue the marathon.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow, Just talk to me.
Speaker 3: Let me, let me tell you, Let me tell you,
Speaker 3: tell you how it was a combination of Freshness.
Speaker 4: You're right, your friend approval without a doubt. And definitely
Speaker 4: you know because me and Nor we were so in
Speaker 4: sync on what was needed to win. God, God, if
Speaker 4: I needed that, you know what I'm saying, Like that
Speaker 4: was a no brainer.
Speaker 3: You know, if he was cool and comfortable with you,
Speaker 3: he was cool and comfortable with me. His people was
Speaker 3: my people. So that's how it was. So whenever, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, it was like, yo, who you
Speaker 3: work with? I rock with E f N.
Speaker 5: But let me describe that moment. Listen that moment it was.
Speaker 5: I had I had the record. I knew the record
Speaker 5: was crazy. I went to Rob.
Speaker 2: Loves office.
Speaker 5: And I said, Rob, and then Leo and everybody said,
Speaker 5: I like to other version.
Speaker 3: But I played it.
Speaker 5: But now Leo doesn't hear his version. Kevin Lobs doesn't
Speaker 5: heard the version. The only version horror. The version is
Speaker 5: just me and Rob Love.
Speaker 3: So I come and play it. Rob says to me.
Speaker 5: He looks at me. He says, nobody heard this. I said,
Speaker 5: nobody heard this. He says, are you ready to law?
Speaker 5: And I knew he meant we could get a dropped
Speaker 5: if it doesn't work. If it doesn't work, we can
Speaker 5: all go down the worst we ever went down. But
Speaker 5: he looked at me, he said, you sure you love it?
Speaker 5: I don't even remember if he actually listened to the record.
Speaker 5: He looked at me and said, this is it? Said, yeah,
Speaker 5: this is it. Rob, He said flex tonight. I did
Speaker 5: not agree with him at all, but I wanted to
Speaker 5: be like yes. I was like, yes, flex tonight, and
Speaker 5: we went the flex one hundred percent. I never agree
Speaker 5: with anything that.
Speaker 6: Rob.
Speaker 2: This is the first time I even telling you, and
Speaker 2: Rob said, fuck that, if you believe it.
Speaker 5: I really did believe in the record, but I didn't
Speaker 5: agree with going on the flex at that moment. And
Speaker 5: then this you have to This is the beautiful thing
Speaker 5: about that record is Flex played it three times, and
Speaker 5: you can tell Flex didn't listen to no three times
Speaker 5: when he played he just played there.
Speaker 2: He just going like this.
Speaker 5: And then the third time he goes holder, Rob Norri,
Speaker 5: you motherfucker's really good at records. And then he played
Speaker 5: it for three more hours, and they all looked at
Speaker 5: me and Rob Love prior to that and said, you
Speaker 5: motherfuckerss don't ever come back to the belt there.
Speaker 3: I got to coach it for you in him.
Speaker 5: And then after Flex played it sixteen times, they said
Speaker 5: be in the building first thing in the morning, because
Speaker 5: you put your job on the line.
Speaker 3: For me, and I did it every fucking day I
Speaker 3: walked into that building.
Speaker 4: Man, if I didn't believe in what I was doing,
Speaker 4: then I would say, fire me. If I didn't believe
Speaker 4: in you know, the Red Man mascot, then fucking fire me.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. If I ain't believe in
Speaker 3: Rapping Shine's Phantom, then fire me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So all this shit that I did while I was there,
Speaker 4: I really believed in it, and you know, and I
Speaker 4: stood behind it. But a question for you, you okay,
Speaker 4: when you was recording that record, right, because it's kind
Speaker 4: of hey, it's got a dumble meaning, right, it's called nothing,
Speaker 4: and then your lyrics were it was.
Speaker 2: About nothing exactly.
Speaker 3: So I just thought it was genius.
Speaker 2: For I got he got on my nerves. He told
Speaker 2: me to do something.
Speaker 3: I did it, and that's it.
Speaker 2: I got a relax. Tell me, I got a relax.
Speaker 3: Tell me I got to get a new single. Cayenne
Speaker 3: to the Happy Birthday, Rob Love, thank you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: I love the drink.
Speaker 2: Chance No, we love you, we love you. We wrap
Speaker 2: it up. We have no idea while we're still here.
Speaker 2: Seventeen hours later. We've been here since o'clock. We're doing
Speaker 2: what we gotta do. Tall TV.
Speaker 5: We love y'all, and then we gotta do it. Happy
Speaker 5: Birthday one love y'all. Want to take another shot, I'm in.
Speaker 3: Next shot.