WEBVTT - The Moon is Shrinking, Under the Silver Lake, and What Makes a Cult 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:08.639 It's eight pm in Silver Lake, California, and you're listening 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:24.240 to Night Call, Hello and welcome Tonight Call, a podcast 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:27.360 for your strange days and lonely nights. I am Tess 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:31.760 Lynch in Los Angeles with Molly Lambert, and over in 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:36.440 New York, we have, as always Emily Yoshina. Hello, Hello, Hello. 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:41.360 So we have a corrections department issue to address, I 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:47.960 think right up top crypti corrections. We've been talking a 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:52.040 lot about cryptids and cryptid songs, and particularly the song 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:58.000 Purple People Leader. Uh. Turns out we miscategorized the Purple 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.160 People Leader, which is in fact not a crypt did 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:04.920 but an alien. Um. Does anybody want to to discuss 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.560 the difference between those two because I feel like that's 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.440 another foggy one for me. Could they not be both? 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.920 I thought Molly brought this correction to our attention, but 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:17.760 I figured that a cryptid has to be an earthly beast. 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.800 It is something that evolved on Earth that just like 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:27.280 humans don't know about. Maybe right, yeah, it's like an 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:31.080 Earth alien, a thing that we think exists but we 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.040 don't know if it does or not. Is the Earth 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:39.679 angel an alien? Yeah? Cryptic? Although the cryptic can't be 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.840 a human, so I'm assuming the Earth Angel is a human. 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:47.039 And then we were kind of looking through there's a 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.120 there's an list on the All of a r I 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.880 p The All I miss every day. I feel like 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:57.720 The All and Gawker, both sites that don't really exist anymore, 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:01.280 have a ton of really good like stay lists like this. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.840 I remember that Cocker did one that was like every 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.880 good sandwich in every state, and they had voted and 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:10.840 agreed on, you know, the definitive sandwich of every state. 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:15.000 But the All has this one of the definitive secret 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.720 scary monster of every state. Yeah, I just want to 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:21.080 clarify that. Well, I don't like fictional maps. A real 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:25.079 sandwich map is cool as long as the sandwich is 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:29.880 the focal point of the like a monster map like fiction. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:34.600 It's not a fictional map. It's grounded in reality. If 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.160 it was like fake facts, I would hate that. Well, 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:39.480 I have to say that on this list, um some 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.600 of the more interesting, I mean, they're all really interesting, 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:46.320 spooky scary monsters, but the kush Taka of a law 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:54.640 and it's aware otter um. There's also the Mogollon monster. 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.520 I'm probably saying all of these wrong of Arizona, which 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:59.560 is a stinky big foot. There are a lot of 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:04.200 stinky big foots out there, and I think California's is 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:10.160 the space brain, which is a I guess illuminated brain 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.960 that has no body around it and has eyes. Someone 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:18.280 spotted them on on the highway. Maybe the space brain. 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:22.320 The Michigan dog man Um, which is a man's body 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:26.400 and a dog's head. Also a Dave Pilky series of 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.440 children's books that is very popular with kids called dog 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:34.120 man Um maybe based on that. And New Mexico Spring 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:37.640 Heeled Jack, which looks the all says, looks like something 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:41.240 in between Satan and Batman. Is that what Jumping Jack 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:46.040 flashes about? I don't know. I've always wondered what that 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:50.000 song is about. I don't really want to know. I 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:54.560 like how it means monster in here is just coujo, right, Yeah, 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:58.520 It's just a dog. It's just a big dog. There 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.920 are some classics. There are a couple of classics. There 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:04.200 are a couple of um ones from the same squawk 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.119 Uh anthology that I told you guys about last week 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:10.160 or the week before. Um a few of them, you know, 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:13.120 hail from there. But I think every state has a 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.840 few cryptids and these are just kind of hand chosen 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.560 like best cryptids. Well, if you have a favorite cryptid 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:21.560 in your state that is not mentioned on this list, 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.640 or one that you think deserves special recognition, give us 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.320 a night call at one two four oh four six night. 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:29.440 We'd love to hear all about it. Always down to 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.120 here about new cryptids. Also, if you've just seen a 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:34.840 weird creature that you think may have been encrypted, please 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:39.560 let us know. Um. I look at The Apologies, one 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:43.120 of our favorite podcast night call adjacent podcast Apologies. They 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.520 have a Facebook group where people are always trying to 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:49.520 identify like different bugs and stuff. Uh and I saw 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:53.480 a ladybug larva on there today and realized I had 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.240 seen them in the wild myself. But they are like 0:04:56.480 --> 0:05:01.000 the creepiest looking larva. They're like, I've seen a ladybug larva. 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.680 What it looks. It's like a black and yellow, weavilish 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:08.360 looking thing that has like kind of little spiky is 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.080 coming out of it. Thinking about larva, I love thinking 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:16.240 about larva. Davy bugs alo juice with the larva. It's 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.200 one of those um words that really sounds like what 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:25.839 it means, Yes, exactly, also larval larval. Oh, it's cute. 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.679 I don't know, it's like it would take a little 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:33.680 dangerous to me. Maybe lady bugs are good. Yeah, we 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.800 love ladybugs. And the larva apparently eat a fid, so 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.560 if you see the larva around, that's a good thing. 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.240 But I always was like those bugs. I don't like 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.880 those bugs, But now I'm coming around. I don't like 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:46.920 their looks though, I'll be honest with you about that. 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:51.320 They're they're they're definitely scarier looking. What if bugs are aliens? 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:55.040 What if? I mean? I thought we agreed Octopus octopier 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:59.240 our aliens, so why not incidentally wound up on Earth? Yeah? 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.599 I read a few very debunked theory that there's people 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.919 who believe that, like all all diseases come from space. 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:12.800 Really don't let the antibactions hear about this, Like the 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.560 common cold came from a moon rock. Yeah, that's how 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:19.880 it exists. Hey, speaking of the moon, Yes, let's let's 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:24.560 have another moon minute. Um. Molly found an article explaining 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.200 that the moon is shrinking, which is bad news. Right, 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.800 Not only is the moon shrinking, you're germs, though, I 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:37.159 guess that's true. If true, not only the Moon shrinking. 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:41.600 The Moon is shrinking, and that is causing moonquakes. Isn't 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:45.160 it weird that we can't see the Moon having an earthquake? 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:47.440 Do you think if you just stared at it long 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.159 enough with a telescope, you could witness a moonquake. You 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.600 can barely see an earthquake unless it's a big magnitude 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:57.040 one on Earth, like unless it was one that caused 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:01.760 massive geological restructuring. But I guess that these are aren't 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.240 they it's causing like debris. I mean, you think that 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.920 the craters would like kind of implode, and that if 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.680 you had a good enough telescope you might be able 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:14.400 to peep a moon quake. The subheading here ongoing shrinkage. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:20.840 So why is it? Is it just shrinking because of gray? 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:25.200 I'm gonna make a science guess. I don't know. We 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.559 would have tectonic plates, like, oh yeah, so it doesn't 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.520 have a molten core, it has fault lines. Here's what 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.960 it says. It says this is definitely They found out 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.880 that this is definitely happening because the Moon is shrinking, 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.880 not from asteroid impact or activity deep inside the moon. 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.760 It doesn't seem like they are even trying to address 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:51.840 why the moon is shrinking. Clickbait, clickbait from what why 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.960 I did you guys enjoy the most recent full moon. No, 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.000 because you couldn't see it here. I mean I enjoyed it. 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.160 You can see it the night before. It's been a 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.560 very misty and weird weather. It was raining, so I 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.480 enjoyed that as much as I would have enjoyed the 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.119 full moon. I don't give this rain a good rating. 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.840 It was too I didn't feel like it was purposeful enough. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:15.560 It was a little too misty. I've been getting these 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:19.520 terrible headaches from the barometric pressure out here because it 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.760 keeps like the humidity will increase and increase, and I 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:26.000 think the pressure falls and it's it would be relieved 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:30.840 by like a big raina monkey pod. And then I 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.800 was like, I just wanted more. It needed to be amplified. 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:42.680 It's unusual. It is um. In other moon news, you guys, 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.079 we are now all aware that Posh Spice has been 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:50.800 drinking full moon water, which is water that has been 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.000 charged um under a full moon. Obviously, you can make 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.600 your own. You can also buy it on Etsy for 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.720 it ranges. There's a big range in price for the 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.959 moon water. Do you think that star fire water also 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.480 charges the water under the moon or do you think 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:10.559 these are two completely different, separate water theories. I think 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:17.160 they're separate cosmological, separate water, cosmology, separate water cold. One 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:20.480 is star bast and the other what is star fire 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:24.920 water starfir And they sell it that one talked about 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:29.079 it earlier, the one that you yeah, yeah, I love it. Yeah, 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:31.760 um wait, how much does the how much is the 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:35.040 moon water or full moon water rather? I'm sure whatever 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.920 posh strength. The posh spice website was, I believe in German, 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.840 so I just read recaps of it, But then I 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.240 went to Etsy to be like full moon water. Should 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:50.400 I be selling full moon water? And should be our 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.360 full Alex Jones. I don't think I could in good 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:57.679 conscience self full moon water. Also, it has what if 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:06.080 we all like spitting it, Molly, we have a full 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:09.559 separate Patreon for people who want water with our spitting 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:14.880 it and for muk bang videos and even just saying 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:18.439 those thing and the spit water together, I'm like, no, 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:23.319 that's our regular patreons is well, don't tell them that's 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.280 what's coming down the pipeline. They're going to be sell 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:28.160 you the Pullman water if you want it, will take 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:31.640 a poll. Um. Well, she also well, she also is 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.680 saying during her week long detox, she also listened to 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:39.680 true crime podcasts. So do you do that during a 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:45.520 d talk like a detox and true crime that's unwind 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:52.320 from being a footballer's wife. A footballer's wife. I don't know. 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.160 Listening to like a true crime podcast makes me feel 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.520 worse than like eating a burger or whatever you might 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.880 be cleansing yourself from. I don't know what. It's the 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.400 guilty pleasure as long as you're not on a detox. 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.240 I think it's great to listen to true crime. But 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:08.240 if you're on a detox, that should be detoxed from you. Well, 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.560 what if the true crime stories in fact fictional and 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.880 about a fictional conspiracy. Maybe we should talk about that 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:27.040 after we plug our book club right well, speaking of 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:30.040 our Patreon and ore and all the weird kinky ship 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:34.400 we have going on there doing a book club, motherfucker's 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:39.440 Actually we are reading like one of the most erotic 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:43.560 odyssees of all time, kind of an erotic odyssey. Yeah. 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.560 We we just announced our first ever book club pick, 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.680 which is going to be value of the dolls. We 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:51.640 are very excited about it. I've never read it, so 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.120 I'm super excited about that. How have you never read it? Emily? 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:58.800 It blew my mind. I'm so excited. I'm gonna admit 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.520 I've only skim read it at a bookstore. What I see? 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.439 Do you guys that already read it? I think maybe 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:08.079 you read me the dirty parts on the phone. That 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:12.720 was definitely I never maybe read the whole thing in context. Well, 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.760 this will be a new journey in a new journey 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.600 for one and a half of us. Uh. So we're 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:20.320 very excited about it. We're excited to share it with 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:23.080 you guys. We are going to be doing are dropping 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:27.280 our first ever Patreon book club podcast for subscribers at 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:32.000 the five dollar level and above um on June, so 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.600 you have until then to get caught up and check 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:38.199 out the book. And also if you subscribe at that level, 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:42.199 you can get a fiftent discount on the book at 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.960 from our friends at Skylight Books in Los Angeles, but 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:48.120 they'll ship it anywhere, and you can also just get 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.880 it at your local library or somewhere chill like that. 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:55.720 We love libraries. Audio books probably an audio book. Yeah sure. 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:57.960 I'm also gonna say if you want to be like 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.480 Georgia Stanza and just watch the movie and listen to 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.520 the episodes, that's okay too, as long as you subscribe 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:08.560 to our Patreon exactly and before that episode drops. If 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.160 you're reading the book and have any fun thoughts or 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.920 feedback about it, that yeah, we might want to bring 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.520 up on the show. Give us a night call or 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.600 a night email and let us know your thoughts about 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:28.320 the books. We can include it in the show. I'm 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.480 very excited to talk about the nearly three hour long 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:35.560 movie that Emily made us a watch, and apparently I 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:39.560 am the only one who enjoyed. I kind I have 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:43.080 no idea how I feel about this movie. UM. I 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:46.600 wanted to like foisted upon you guys so I could 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:50.760 get your thoughts on it. UM. I saw the film 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.680 we're discussing today Under the Silver Lake at cann just 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:55.880 about a year ago, because can's going on now? It 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:59.800 was it wasn't quite booed there, but it was like 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.080 there were just like snickers of derision from all the 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.000 French journalists there, and it was sort of perceived as 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.520 a flop out of the festival. And I was like, 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:10.360 and we had already started the podcast by then, and 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:14.719 I was like, there's maybe never been a film this 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:18.880 night call it Can before, But also like I can't 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.320 tell if I love it or hate it. But that's 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.040 the problem. That's why I liked it, because the whole 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.600 time I was like, what, I don't know how I 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:29.080 feel about this movie at all. And I read that 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:33.240 because of the very divided reaction it can that it 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.480 was you know, the release was delayed. There was a 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:38.560 rumor that it was being re edited. But then I 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:42.000 think that those rumors were false. Um, but yeah, Under 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.960 the Silver Lake was written, produced, and directed by David 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.720 Robert Mitchell, who did It follows, um, which I loved. 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:53.640 I think we all like, this is the definition of 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.800 a blank check movie. Though, to use a term from 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.640 our our buddies at blank Check, it follows was such 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.640 a excess and such a you know, such a breakout hit. 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:06.520 And if David Robert Mitchell ever gets a deep enough 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.640 filmography that he'd be a good candidate for this for 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.400 that podcast, because this is a textbook example of somebody 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:17.920 just like allowed to make a three hour like meandering 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:26.160 conspiracy epic about pop songs and underground caves for harems 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.680 in Los Angeles. That's like also kind of an in 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:34.480 cells slash reddit conspiracy theorist story. I don't know, it's 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:40.119 like a lot. It's like Q and on the movie. Yeah, 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.720 I would say for me, this movie kind of lives 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.800 and dies by the fact that it stars Andrew Garfield. 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.640 And that was what did not work for me. You 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:54.400 didn't like the garf doing a little joke. I wanted 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:59.160 to make like, hey girl memes about him, remember girl 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:03.920 memes that feel Yeah, this guy is like the real, 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:08.080 like silver Lake guy that everybody's dated. He is everyone's 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:12.800 Silver Lake ex boyfriend, of which did not make me 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:17.400 love him exactly. I liked him for embracing his I 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:20.680 mean I I admired his performance, but yeah, he's like 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:25.000 a really I mean, he literally smells bad smells the 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:29.760 entire movie. He has a very like it's it's a 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:33.600 very studied and unique way of walking and running and 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:37.280 like holding himself even lying on the ground. That's like 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:41.560 everything he does is very it's pointed, it is incredible. 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:46.120 Then is so good. It's very close to like a 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.359 Napoleon dynamite kind of thing, like a void of charisma, 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.920 which maybe is the point. That is the point. I 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:57.840 will not pretend to know the intentions of this film 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.520 from the creator, but I you feel pretty safe and 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:07.040 sane that we're not supposed to like Andrew Garfield's character. Correct. Well, 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.120 first of all, can we just say that there will 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:12.600 be spoilers because I feel the need to spoil well, 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.320 and it's time available on demand, you can you can 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.920 get it, you know, basically any platform. It was out 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:21.679 theatrically for like all of two days before they dropped 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:23.520 it on v o D. It's it's kind of the 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:28.359 first ever A four fiasco, like, but they've kind of 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.560 quietly swept it under the rud very watchable, I mean, 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:35.040 like I watched The problem. Also that I watched a 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:39.520 good movie first, right, Um, I saw The Farewell, which 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:43.280 is yeah, which I'm sure we'll talk about more, but like, 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:46.479 which is an awesome, like great movie. And I was 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.160 like crying from watching The Farewell because it was so good. 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.760 And then I was like, and now time for like 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.440 and then it was just like the Benny Hill theme 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.520 song playing the whole time. I think it was probably 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:01.960 also like narcissism of small differences. I was like I 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:06.399 would write this movie, but like with yeah, you know, no, 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.600 I'm like, I mean, I'm partially like defensive of this 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:12.280 movie because I'm like, I kin't want to do something 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:16.199 like this. We better like some of this stuff. But 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:20.720 it also it's a very it's a very funny, intentionally 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.440 funny part. I mean, like from the from the part 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:26.080 where there's like a really long dialogue scene during a 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.760 sex scene exactly with him and Ricky lind Home. Like 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.400 as soon as Ricky lind Home turned up, I was like, oh, 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.760 like Southland Tills were in like south Land Tails Territory 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:39.080 was just like some good comedians playing weird character roles. Also, 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:42.080 there's a paddle boat chase which is awesome in the 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.679 paddle in the Echo Park Lake. That was yeah, I 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:49.440 mean Patrick Fishler is really good in it. And that's 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:51.720 a nod to like Mullholland Drive. I mean that's the 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.560 other thing. So I finished the movie, which is I 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.320 just like it's three hours long, but just to kind 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:00.639 of sum up the plot, Andrew Garfield plays a guy 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:04.359 who's very aimless and kind of like bottoming out, and 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:07.000 he's in his mid thirties. He lives in Silver Lake 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:11.399 he's a he's a conspiracy theorist kind of, but he 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:15.000 basically is he's also a voyeur man child like he's 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:19.119 obsessed Kurt Cobain and Nintendo, Like he's just stuck in 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:24.120 the stuff of his youth. So he becomes interested in 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:27.280 a couple of mysteries that he thinks might be related 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:30.000 that are going on in his apartment complex and his 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:34.159 immediate neighborhood. One of the mysteries is the disappearance of 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.400 a neighbor that he's been like maybe trying to romance. 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.600 And the other one is that all over Silver Lake 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:45.080 someone's been graffiti ing Beware the Dog Killer, and apparently 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.200 a lot of dogs are going missing and they think 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:50.760 someone's like out, you know, killing the dogs. So he's 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:54.480 kind of like just intrigued by these mysteries. Also, he 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:56.640 has no job. He's like not trying to get a job. 0:19:57.200 --> 0:20:00.320 He's going to be evicted, his car was repossessed. He's 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:02.720 just kind of falling apart and spending all of his 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:07.200 time like obsessing over these conspiracy theories. But then after 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:10.920 you finish the movie, you can then go on an 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:13.399 Easter egg hunt, and there are all of these crazy 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.960 Easter eggs in the movie, which also kind of lead nowhere, 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:19.800 which the movie. In the movie, everything kind of leads 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.120 nowhere just gets you get deeper and deeper and deeper 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:24.919 into trying to solve these mysteries, and then it just 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:28.760 doesn't really matter. That's the question. It's a movie about 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:32.920 the pointlessness of easter eggs, Yes, it's I think it's 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.560 a movie about the Internet, and that's kind of I 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:38.600 was like, Oh, it's about how the Internet kind of 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:42.640 like takes your drive away from like existing in your 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:45.040 world as it appears to you, and it makes you 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:48.320 feel as though everything has hidden in deeper levels and 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:51.080 you go trying to like find what they are, but 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:53.320 you just end up going like deeper and deeper into 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:56.840 your own kind of id and like become really disconnected 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:59.960 with people around you. You also get really into low 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:09.160 cool mystery would be on the case. Maybe this movie 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:11.880 made me uncomfortable because it like read me to fill 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:14.600 up a little bit too much too, you know. Or 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:17.440 I was like, is it like I drive around aimlessly 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:23.640 and like follow read people's weird flyers they post on things. Uh. 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:26.119 I was walking around a Gripp's park today and I 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:31.240 was thinking about the movie, You're going to Find the Tunnel. Uh, 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:34.320 all the tunnel stuff again, some of the stuff we 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:37.159 were talking about last week with the Getty House and 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:43.440 the you know, the gun cash, Like it's not not possible. 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:46.399 I mean, it's just it's interesting though, when you spend 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:50.600 your time like reading and going deeper and deeper, and 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:53.640 like I I also thought that the movie kind of 0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:55.919 you know, didn't really spend any time with him in 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:58.320 front of a computer or searching on his phone, which 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:02.000 is obviously what it was portraying, but not like the 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:06.200 cinematic way to represent that and like put this sort 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:09.439 of Hitchcock type score over it. So it's like, oh, 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:12.360 it's a real adventure, but the actual reality of the 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:15.560 adventure for most of it is like pretty mundane. It's him, 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:17.639 like you know, decoding things on the back of a 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:20.679 pizza box and stuff like I wish he had just 0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:24.240 had the clamshell phone. Oh my god, well that was 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:26.600 the I mean, that's one of the things that I 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:30.320 think he's really good at. Um David Robert Mitchell is 0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:34.840 just making making a place that's familiar seemed foreign. And 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:38.080 we were talking right before we started recording with our 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:41.040 producer Roy out in l A. And we were talking 0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:43.200 about It Follows, and I was like, what I loved 0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:46.480 about It Follows so much was that it created it 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:48.720 kind of like took the past in the future and 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:50.720 put them in a blender and then poured it onto 0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:54.320 a geographic location because it had all of these things 0:22:54.320 --> 0:22:57.400 that felt kind of retro and reminded you of your childhood, 0:22:57.400 --> 0:23:00.640 but it definitely also was like kind of of the future. 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:04.439 And then it was also you know a really like beautiful, 0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:06.880 like beautifully shock kind of way of looking at Detroit 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:11.480 and it was beautiful. Yeah, it's really nice. The kind 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.520 of self mythologizing it does. Like I feel like like 0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:17.960 he's so obviously just like a ship post like Philip 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:22.080 Marlowe type character, and it's like like every generation gets 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:24.560 the version of that character that it deserves, and like 0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:27.000 this is the one that we get. It's like, you know, 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:29.720 down to the like you know, looking at his his 0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:33.080 neighbors in various states of undress type thing. But it's 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:37.840 just like the more depressing version of this time around, right, 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:41.080 it's like vertigo depressing. Yeah, I think about him being 0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:43.920 just a bad psychopath from the beginning. Then yeah, sure, 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:46.400 it makes sense. First of all, I think, and this 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:48.639 is my theory, but I think he is supposed to 0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:52.600 be the dog Killer. But then also it's someone So 0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:57.520 I went it deep into the subred reddit. It's like, well, 0:23:57.600 --> 0:23:59.359 the one thing to note about the reddit is that 0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:05.480 it's arted flourishing like weeks before this ever was released 0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:08.560 in the States, like off of a pirated copy from 0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:13.240 you like a teeny tiny UK release, and so it 0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:16.719 was already in full flower by the time it was 0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:19.240 released in the States. And it's just so funny because 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:22.920 it's like it was already being passed around like this 0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:25.879 you know, forbidden thing like oh have you seen this? 0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:29.480