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Speaker 1: Episode one of Me and Steve eating carp episode two

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Speaker 1: of Me and Clay excuse me, me and Cal eating Coote,

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Speaker 1: and then episode three that I don't know do we

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Speaker 1: want to reveal what it is you want to It

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Speaker 1: is me and your honest eating kaya and this series

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Speaker 1: is dedicated to eating what like most folks would consider inedible,

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Speaker 1: and for me, it's really born out of like these

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Speaker 1: generalizations that hunters and anglers have that are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you can't eat that or those things taste like mud.

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Speaker 1: And I think a perfect example would be, like episode

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Speaker 1: guys that would be like those things tastes like swamp water,

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Speaker 1: but I can find you zero guys that have eaten one.

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Speaker 1: So that's what this series is is to like try

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Speaker 1: it's it's a big part of our ethos for we've

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Speaker 1: is sort of bowing these um ideas about what something

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Speaker 1: But the what's interesting about the carp one is that

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Speaker 1: how revered and and the pardon I played about carp

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Speaker 1: explores how revered the carp is around the world as

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Speaker 1: a food item. Yeah, and in each twenty minute episode,

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Speaker 1: you get like a history lesson about the critter that

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Speaker 1: coyote and uh do tend different things to it and

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Speaker 1: put it in a Chilian you wouldn't know you're eating coyote, right,

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Speaker 1: But that's not the point. We want to get like

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Speaker 1: a good baseline. So like the coop is just right

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Speaker 1: on the grill with one other ingredient. The kye or

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Speaker 1: So we're getting Can you tell me right now, how

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Speaker 1: much did you like that kyote? Met It was the

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Speaker 1: This is something I'm gonna give to Cringe. She hasn't

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Speaker 1: could have could you could have gone like this, like man,

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Speaker 1: Patrick's boy sure got in there and clean. No se cucumbers.

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Speaker 1: Chris said, she wants the inner part and the googy part.

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Speaker 1: a late season bow hunt here in Arkansas that goes

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Speaker 1: through our season goes through February. So if you kill

424
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: a doe anytime during that period, you potentially would see

425
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: a fetus in a gutted dope. But I've told people

426
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: for years exactly what you said is that if you

427
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: kill that dough on November the tenth, she was just

428
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: as pregnant then the other. There's also the thing that

429
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: just of using the whole resource, you know, I mean

430
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: when you look at the macro picture, there's an elk

431
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: female cow elk hunt because they're trying to manage these elk,

432
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: and if it's happening, and it's a thing that's valuable

433
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: for conservation, and so if you kill a pregnant out

434
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: use the whole thing. So I don't have any problem

435
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: with it. Fetus, No, I have not. Okay, I think

436
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: that if any of us get later season critters, we

437
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: should sure. Man, Yeah, I'd love to try it. Uh.

438
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: I've read about people a couple of things that not

439
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: we've discussed this. UM read accounts where planes tribes would

440
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: if they killed a calf, a buffalo calf, they made

441
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 1: a dish with the curdled mother's milk from inside the

442
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: calf's stomach, which I don't know why. I feel like

443
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: that's in the same same spirit. Uh, here's a crazy story,

444
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: these guys. There's a story here. The world has come

445
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: from vice. Originally a dude. Uh. He had to have

446
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: his lower leg and foot amputated. Cook at home made

447
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: foot tacos for his friends. The pictures of the foot tacos. Sure, sure,

448
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: how do you do that whistle? Like we're like, oh wow, yeah,

449
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: I think we're all. Yeah, I don't know. That's the

450
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: final frontier, man, that's the final frontier. No, I'm out

451
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: on this one. Out, I'm out, Garrett Garrett Long said,

452
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: really putting his foot, really putting his foot in his mouth.

453
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: There quality one of the guys who worked with said

454
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: wavos rancher tooes. So, Steve, if you're invited to this

455
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: party out, i'd have to know the guy. I'd your

456
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: foot meat, but I'm not. But I'm not gonna eat

457
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: foot meat from a guy I don't know. To me,

458
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: it's more like an expression of the individual man. And

459
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: like if I saw in the store like foot meat,

460
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna you know, it's just not human foot meat.

461
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: What if it was human um forearm, It just doesn't matter.

462
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter human meat. If it was like if

463
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: you said, hey, man, this thing happened to me, I'm

464
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: gonna eat my foot, my leg, whatever, then I'd be like, oh,

465
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: you know, for you Yanni, and I'd go over there

466
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 1: and eat it. Oh man. But I wouldn't eat just

467
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: if someone said, like, I don't know, I just got whatever.

468
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: That's funny. I think some people might have the opposite approach.

469
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: They want to not like you've you've looked Yanni in

470
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: the eye, and you know you've buried your souls to

471
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: each other, had many great moments together. Maybe you wouldn't

472
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: want to eat his foot. But if some guy that

473
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: you haven't met before, I think some people might be like,

474
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'll eat that guy's foot. Because if let's

475
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: say I had to get a kidney transplant and I

476
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: could get Yanni's or stranger's, I would take Yanni's kidney

477
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: because then I would have less sort of like questions

478
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: sure about who I was walking around. I get that

479
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: that's a little bit more dependent on like your your

480
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: well being than just eating. No, no, not how how

481
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: do I know? Why? Why would I think that his

482
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: kidney is better than some other kidney he might have

483
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: a I don't know that. I guess it's just like

484
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: the knowing nous. I just want to know. If I

485
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: ate a guy, I'd be real curious about who it was.

486
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: Would you eat your own foot? Let's say, like your

487
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: foot with your toenail. Okay, let's say like the ingrown

488
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: toenail caused some real problems for your foot down the line,

489
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: and then for some reason, God forbid, you had to

490
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: have it amputated your own everybody's done this in the

491
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: past in their lifetimes, where you get a cut on

492
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: your hand or your finger and you don't have like

493
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: a way to stop the bleeding immensely, you know, right,

494
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: what do you do? You stick your finger in your mouth, right,

495
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: and you're you're, yeah, you're drinking your own blood at

496
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: that point. What's the difference. It's a little different. Blood.

497
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: Blood feels really different than like you know, said, yeah,

498
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: he got I'm gonna nick your finger and you could

499
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: put that in your mouth, or I could serve you

500
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: your toe. They're gonna be like the blood things like circulating.

501
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: I feel like the toe thing is like, but it's

502
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: not circulating, you know, blooding your digestive. But yeah, I know,

503
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: but it's just in your head. It's my points, very true.

504
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: Chris or Karin went to went to our our meat specialist,

505
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: Dr Chris. I don't think it rhymes with chalk, it does.

506
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: It is calkins, caulk and chalk. It comes up every

507
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: time cock cock, like like I'm going to call Yeah,

508
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: I live in the house. One time when I was

509
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: living in su St. Marie, Michigan, and we had the

510
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: bathtub leak like bad. And it was that we rent

511
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: from a slum lord, and anytime someone took a shower,

512
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: it would just like I mean honestly, it would just

513
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: flow through to the living room below. And we kept saying,

514
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: something's wrong, and something's wrong. He wouldn't do anything, wouldn't

515
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: take it seriously. So I went and got a gallon

516
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: of roofing tar, and I'm not kiddya, man, I cocked

517
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: that thing in that roofing ter. It took forever to dry.

518
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: So everywhere, like anytime someone set like a bottle of

519
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: shampoo or something down, it would get roof and tier

520
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: on it. And then that roof and twer would move

521
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: around and you have me real careful, like what you

522
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: rubbed up against in the tub. It took months, but

523
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: eventually that roof and tire set up, and the dude

524
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: we ran from like when we moved down and stuff

525
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: never mentioned it because he knew he had. Part of

526
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: the house was falling away from the house so bad

527
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: that we wanted to run an extension court out. One

528
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: time we were able to pass the extension cord through

529
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: where the house had fallen away from itself. Holy yeah,

530
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: my rint was a ten bucks. It sounds like too

531
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: much in that place. Uh, we're time about oh caled

532
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: Chris Colors. Yeah, cockin that I was just thinking about

533
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: roofed the batsop cocking. Okay, Crin, tell what he's got people.

534
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: It was It was because it was like one of

535
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: our colleagues made a joke. But also, you know, on

536
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: a serious note about cooking the foot flesh too what

537
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: you know, temperature that would be safe. So even though

538
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: this was a joke, I also um emailed Chris and

539
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: just wanted to know what he thought about the entire situation.

540
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: And uh, these are some quotes from him. There are

541
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: so many things wrong with this presumably the muscle starts

542
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: out safely edible, getting past the ick factor. Then yes,

543
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: the same rules of thumb would apply for safety as

544
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: other flesh. But if I understand the story correctly, I'd

545
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: be concerned that the limbs spent about a week dying

546
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: before it was amputated. So that's all kinds of bacteria

547
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: and maybe toxins that accumulate and freeze thing wouldn't necessarily

548
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: resolve either of those problems. Uh, if it's loaded with bacteria,

549
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: you have to cook it thoroughly to kill it. That

550
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: means well done through and through. I'd also be worried

551
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: about the accumulation of medicines. Cooking doesn't do anything to

552
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: resolve this issue. It's not about the temperature at which

553
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: it's cooked too, as much as it is the temperature

554
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: it reaches. But even then no one should do. Yeah.

555
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: I wonder if he's reached well. Uh. Dr Calkins eventually

556
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: gets censured for weighing in on or is he or

557
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: is this beauty? As like in his professional purview, I'm

558
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: sure this is safe. Uh oh that tub not a

559
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: leak out of that thing? After that? Well done with

560
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: roof and yeah, handy Steve, heads up, you have some

561
00:33:53,560 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: Bob Via stuff there. Man, we's always pronounced it Vila

562
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: hate watching that show and Dad forces I'd rather be

563
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: watching anything cartoons, Saturday morning and fish that's when they

564
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: used to have Saturday more than fishing and hunting shows,

565
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: and instead this old house would be on. That's why.

566
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: That's why I'm not like in the trades now, That's

567
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: that's what did it? Boba Villa drove you out of it? No? No,

568
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: not that I never really became like like worked in

569
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 1: it with them, just like not even like just even

570
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: like at home, I'm always like, yeah, I think I

571
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: should call Brady up handy though. Yeah, but not like

572
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: my dad Clay. You're going to say something. Okay, here's

573
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: a here's a fascinating story, and a bunch of people

574
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: sent this to me. This is good stuff. In Saudi Arabia,

575
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: there's a lava tube, so imagine it's like a cave.

576
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: Right Spencer, He's like, you're like, our you're becoming our

577
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: resident geologists. Explain a lot of tube. That's a cave.

578
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: In this cave, there's a stockpile of bones that were

579
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: stock held there by hyenas over a course of seven

580
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: thousand years. So evergoing population of hyenas utilizing this cave

581
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: to bring bones into snack on. Wow, did they just

582
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: fine this? No? Okay, they found in two thousands seven,

583
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: been researching instance two thousands. Okay, justin if we're talking

584
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: about something that happened over seven thousand years, I feel

585
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: like seven is the reason. No. No, they've been investigating

586
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: the site, but it was only a few months ago

587
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: that they went even further in to this area and

588
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: found the bone pile. So the bone pile discovery is

589
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 1: only a couple of months old. A lava tube system,

590
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: which is a sprawling network of tunnels formed by volcanic

591
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: activity striped hyenas. You can make like a scene here

592
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: in a movie, because you gotta tell them about how

593
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: they like why they didn't go farther in there there

594
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: in this cave, exploring it, doing archaeologists work, and then

595
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: they hear snarls of hyenas possibly farther down in there,

596
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: and so they turned around. Come on, yes, it says

597
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: the listen man. I had to take my kid to

598
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: the doctor this morning, get a warp furroze in office foot,

599
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: and I didn't review everything as a character as I

600
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: might normally have. Well, come in, how's that warts doing? Planners?

601
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: Words on the bottom, how's that words doing? It? Says

602
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: the most modern bones are four d and thirty nine

603
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: years old, though, so I didn't realize this was like

604
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: still an active site if they're hearing hyenas in there.

605
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: I didn't realize the hyenas were in there at one

606
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: point they were, which is why they hadn't gone to

607
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: the depths. Ya needs like a subject matter experto No,

608
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm not like. I've been in a

609
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: few caves that have gotten small and tight, man, and uh,

610
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: what's that fear called? Yeah, Like when it gets like that,

611
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: I do not like immediately man, the blood pressure ees,

612
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: I do not like it. So to be in that

613
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: kind of situation and then to hear getting out of

614
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: that one, it looks like something out of Pirates of

615
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: the Caribbean. So you're right, you know, a bunch of bones,

616
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: I mean, like a classroom size mountain of bones, including

617
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: Yanni's probably has some correction about this. Hundreds of thousands

618
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: of bones, four kinds of animals, cattle, cap rods, horses, camels, rodents,

619
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: and even folks not up gnawed up by hyena teeth

620
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands. They feel like maybe maybe Joannie knows

621
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: why this is. They feel like maybe the hyenas had

622
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: been ransacking human burial sites and dragon those bones home.

623
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: Think about that. It's wild to me that we're still

624
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: finding stuff like this. Yeah, you know, you you you

625
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: get this sense that the earth is discovered, you know that,

626
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: like we've found everything, and then we find stuff like this,

627
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of cool because the earth is

628
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: not discovered. You know, there's all kind of wild stuff

629
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: out there. Oh. I'd love to go dig in through

630
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: that pile, man, Yeah, chest, You're perfectly described the scene.

631
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: It's like bones on bones on bones, and you'd expect

632
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: to see like, uh, like a big treasure chest on

633
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: top of the whole thing, one beam of light hitting it.

634
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: Oh that's a great. Yeah, I'd like to dig through

635
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: that pile and bring some of that stuff home. Johnny

636
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: Depp drinking some room. Uh, speaking of hyenas, like that transition,

637
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: speaking of hyenas, how did you come up with that?

638
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: Just like, I don't know, man, just these little things

639
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: come to me. He's been hanging out with me. Yeah, well,

640
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: fat quick draw quick draw Phil quick draw Taylor. Uh.

641
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: We had an episode not longer called cat scratch Fever

642
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: where a guy from Hawaii who who is bow hunting

643
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: for wild goats farrel goats um on a whim, decided

644
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 1: to eat a hunk of Farrell goat and contracted toxoplasmosis,

645
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: which is which has the flow through uh cat poop

646
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: cat ship. I had multiple people reach out to me

647
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: saying we had a missed opportunity here that instead of

648
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: cat scratch fever, cat chat fever. Not even Phil came

649
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: up with that. That kid, though, that's got to make

650
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: you jealous. Film. Phil spaces out now no no, and

651
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: like it's messing on his computer and probably misses a

652
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities to make funny little things. I should

653
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: have fed that to him ahead of time. I was

654
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: reading about lava tubes. So he's over there studying up

655
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: on lava tubes and ms a chance to say something funny.

656
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: It's a cat chat fever. So these guys are studying

657
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: this is a this is a fascinating thing that they're

658
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: doing a research project in Kenya where they're looking at

659
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: when hyenas get talks and one of the things about

660
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: getting toxoplasmosis. Is it like, you know, affects your behavior,

661
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: has neurological effects. And one of the things is when

662
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: a hyena cub gets toxoplasmosis, it loses its fear of lions,

663
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: And there's all this stuff about like it flows through feelnes. Okay,

664
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: toxoplasmosis flows through feed lines, and there's these sort of

665
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: like conspiracy theory sounding. There's no conspiracy, but it's like

666
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: wild thing this idea that when they infect an animal.

667
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: So when an animal becomes infected by toxoplasmosis, it then

668
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: becomes easier for the cat to kill because it starts

669
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: acting weird. So it's this thing that's like, it's this

670
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: it it's a aid. It's like high fence hunting. It's

671
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: like or something. It's like you're passing along and making

672
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: it easier to harvest. Yeah, it sounds like when you

673
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: hear white tail expert talk about CWD or something. The

674
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: deer don't often die from c w D, but because

675
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: they're so messed up, they're just easier prey for hunters

676
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: or predators or vehicles or whatever. That's what that's what

677
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: sounds like you're describing a lot to die from CWT. Yes, related,

678
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: but the whole related causes thing in this study. This

679
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: is interesting. A cell in this study, all hyena cubs

680
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: that have toxoplasmosis, all of them are killed by lions

681
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: before there one year old of uninfected hyena cubs only

682
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: se get killed by lions, So they keep their distance.

683
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: They know, and when they have the talks, they fall

684
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: easy prey to the fee line. It's a good thing

685
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: Danny didn't have any large cats in Hawaii. Yeah, he

686
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: come across big sabretooth up to it. That's up man.

687
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: You'd be like, what's up, man. Yeah, that's like a

688
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: literal death sentence. None of the will make it. It's

689
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: really interesting man. You're saying though, that there's like a

690
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: biologically advantage to a cat passing it on. So it's

691
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: like the more that those cats have it, the more

692
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: they spread it through their area, the more animals get

693
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: crazy and they're easier to kill. So the the infected

694
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: lions just keep getting stronger and stronger, but more and

695
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: more infected. Yeah. And when I first heard that a

696
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: while ago, I thought that sounded like horseshiped me. I

697
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: was like, I can't be true. But this thing is interesting, man,

698
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: and I think there's been some similar chemicals. Yeah, it's

699
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: like chemical warfare, Like you see what I'm saying, Like

700
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: sending out something to do your dirty work for you

701
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: without having to go in. Yeah, if you just wander

702
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: over to a hyena den, drop a deuce, okay, be like,

703
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: I'll be seeing you boys in my teeth. It's really

704
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: something I'll have you guys know that I'm carving a

705
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: very intricate mural into my desk. Oh yeah, I saw

706
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: the first part of it. Man, it's grown. I've got

707
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: a manor a bear. What you say, am I in it?

708
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: That's a good idea. I've got a I've got a

709
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: bear of full struck gobbler turkey that. And then there's

710
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: a white oak tree that separates him. And then there's

711
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: a raccoon. I can put Steve Ronella right over just

712
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: past direct a tattoo, maybe creeping up on something, give

713
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: him toxic plasmosis. And there's a mountain lion creaming up

714
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: on him. You know, we we've talked on this show

715
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: million times or so about what we call the not

716
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 1: what we call whatever, But he calls the Pittman Robertson Fund.

717
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: So when you go and buy, as we've explained box

718
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: playing again, that's a good thing to know about. When

719
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: you go and buy ammunition or firearms, um, there's an

720
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: excise tax on that on those goods, and that excise

721
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: tax goes to fun, wildlife work, wildlife conservation. So when

722
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: you when you buy gun, eleven percent of the wholesale price,

723
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: ten percent of the wholesale price for handguns, so it's

724
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: eleven percent of the hotel price for long guns and

725
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: ammunition ten percent of hotel price, wholesale price for handguns.

726
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: Manufacturers and importers pay the excise tax. Okay, and then

727
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: you like fund it back on on the purchase. But

728
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: when you do it so you don't see it itemized out,

729
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: it's already been done. But eleven percent of that money

730
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: goes to fund while they have conservation. The system has

731
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: been around since seven Hunters are you know, hunters like me,

732
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: we always like to talk about, oh yeah, we're doing

733
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: so much good. But the vast, vast majority of this

734
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: was of this is not related to hunting. It's just

735
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: gun owners and shooting sports and everything. Like you know

736
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: people that particularly people that but you know like a

737
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: New Jersey cat lady could go drop buy a pistol

738
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: and that goes into Pittman Robertson. That the one who

739
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: goes into Pittman Robertson fun. But that that total tally

740
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: since ninety seven just tipped past fourteen billion dollars into

741
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: the Wildlife Restoration Trust Fund, and that money is flowing

742
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: right now because of the firearm and ammunition industry has

743
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: just exploded since COVID. And what would be like a

744
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: literal example of this trust fund being spent on something

745
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: matching dollars to state agencies will be the main thing.

746
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 1: It could It could be that you want to, uh,

747
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: you want to do some like Arizona, say, wants to

748
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: do some big horn restoration and move big horns into

749
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: a new mountain range to try to to restore some

750
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: of their range. And you're gonna do some habitat work

751
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: ahead of that and remove some fencing, right and the

752
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: state agents are going to do that. A state agency

753
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: would apply for that. But it's also in like much

754
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: more attainable things to that probably every person in this

755
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: country is like done something that's been funded partially by

756
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: Pitton and Robertson, not even known about it, right, Oh yeah,

757
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: boat launches all kinds of stuff things you use. Another

758
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: thice thing that it does is it helps states protect

759
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: their own in house funding. Because let's let's say you

760
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: whatever the help, you live in Illinois, okay, and you

761
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: buy a hunting license. And now the way that works

762
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: is that hunting license money should stay in for the

763
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: state wildlife agency. But a lot of times the state

764
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: will be like short on money somewhere else and they'll

765
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: go pick pill for that money because they look like, look,

766
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: these guys are sitting over here on all this money.

767
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: So we're gonna do some restructuring and steal their money

768
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: and use it to, you know, build a baseball stadium somewhere. Uh.

769
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: If a state pilfers it's state. If a state pilfers

770
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: its own fish and wildlife agency, it becomes ineligible to

771
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: receive the federal matching dollars. And how Pittman Robertson is allocated,

772
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: and it's allocated, one of the ways it's allocated is

773
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: allocated relative to Uh. There's there's like a licensed purchaser

774
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: function in it too to how they divide it up

775
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: among the states. I like it, Yes, I mean, are

776
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: you completely clear that like any pilfering at all makes

777
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: it like Nolan void like you do any pilfering. No

778
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: Pittman robertson money for you or I'm not a subject

779
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: matter expert on it, but I know that the state

780
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: becomes ineligible for those matching dollars if they're pilfering their thing. Yeah.

781
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: You know, there's a there's a great book that has

782
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: a chapter in the book that's dedicated to this, and

783
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: it's The North American Model of Wildlife Conservation book by

784
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: Shane Mahoney and Valerious Geist. It's a man it ought

785
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: to be like mandatory reading with a with a hunting license,

786
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: and it's it's an incredible book and in a in

787
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: a section of it is dedicated to that funding and

788
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: kind of understanding it, but really really good. The way

789
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: it's officially word is it's it's funding for states and

790
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: territories to support wildlife restoration, conservation, and hunter education and

791
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: safety programs. They recently revamped and opened up that the

792
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: funding can fund more things. So and it was it's

793
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: like there's like kind of a there's uh, there's like

794
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: a little rub there that has sort of two sides

795
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: to it. One thing you can do is they can

796
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: pull Pittman Robertson money out, and I think they recently

797
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: made it. You can use Pittman roberts some money to

798
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: make shooting ranges. Okay, so then you go like, well,

799
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: how in the hell is making a shooting range wildlife conservation?

800
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: But then people point out, well, it's it's like an investment.

801
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: You're making a shooting range, You're making shooting sports more

802
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: accessible to people. By making shooting sports more accessible to people,

803
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,479
Speaker 1: you're driving a ton more money into Pittman Robertson fund.

804
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 1: So it's a little bit like, you know, I don't

805
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: want to call it cash twenty two, but it's like

806
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of all yeah, but right, it's like

807
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: a lion heaven toxoplasmos is It's exactly right. Uh. They

808
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: can also use Pittman Robertson money now. And this is

809
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: another one that you're kind of like, it feels like

810
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: it feels like Mission creep. I think you can use

811
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: you can use Pittman Roberts the money now to market hunting,

812
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: to promote hunting. And then someone still might look and say,

813
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: but man, since seven it's been for wildlife restoration and

814
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: while they've researched, how can you be taking that money

815
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: out and doing non mission stuff with it? Like we

816
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: shouldn't be doing it. But you also see it they're like,

817
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: oh yeah, but it'll it'll lead to it'll it'll lead

818
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: to a higher level of safety for the fund. To

819
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 1: make sure that there's this continuous stream of people paying

820
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: into the fund, good business has got to market somehow,

821
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, to make it so it's kind of like

822
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: marketing obviously. So yeah, I thought that was something that

823
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: was fundamental to the fund for a long time, Steve,

824
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: that you know, shooting ranges and hunter education. I was

825
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: thinking that was from the very beginning. No, because there

826
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: was recently a Pittman Robertson Modernization Act that did some things. Okay, yeah, okay,

827
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: uh Clare, if we talked on the show before about

828
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: the cryptocurrency, the bear Grease cryptocurrency idea, you just mentioned

829
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: it once on a past episode. I wasn't there. You

830
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,959
Speaker 1: just mentioned it briefly, but so no, not really. Yeah.

831
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: So months ago Chester and I took a call with

832
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 1: a crypto currency and and uh n f T expert

833
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: non fungible token, a non fungible Crypto, non fungible Token

834
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: n f T and cryptocurrency expert because we didn't want

835
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: to like miss out on the fund, you know, I mean,

836
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: like I don't wanna be left in the dust and

837
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: not uh up to speed on cryptos and n f

838
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: t s. And I said, I don't know if our

839
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: audience is quite ready for cryptos and n f t s,

840
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: but like I need to know about it, like how

841
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: to make an n f T and sell it or

842
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: whatever give it away? I don't know. Then one day

843
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: Clay had the idea that when we do make a cryptocurrency,

844
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: we call it bear grease genius, and it would trade

845
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: it would trade in ounces, tablespoons. But the cryptocurrency is

846
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: called bear grease. So when you go to one of

847
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: those cryptocurrency things you see bitcoin does, right, there would

848
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: be bear grease there, and we have a way to

849
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: manipulate the price. Like we're way ahead on how to

850
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: manipulate the price, because here's how you maniplate, here's how

851
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: you manipulate the crisis cryptocurrency. Is this is it good

852
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: to tell the other thing was that that the premise

853
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: of the idea is that bear grease was once she

854
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: used as a currency, you know, so like different volumes

855
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: of vergaras could have been traded. So it was like

856
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: it was like a currency. Oh you know what, you

857
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: need to fact check yourself on Clay's Clay says, there

858
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: used to be in olden times there was a unit

859
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: of measurement called an eel. How sure are you that

860
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: that's true? Well, listen, So I I this week I

861
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: went to the book that I felt like I read

862
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: that in and it wasn't there. And I actually emailed

863
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: the author. No, no, no, no no no, did you remove

864
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: a passage from No? No? I so I. So I

865
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: emailed the guy and I said, man, I could have

866
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: swore I read that in your book. I'm I'm very

867
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: certain I read that because I wrote about it myself.

868
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: I quoted someone in an article I wrote twelve years

869
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: ago about the tanned neck hide of a deer being

870
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: a unit of measurement for bear grease, and they called

871
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: it and you know, I was reading this, so I'm

872
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: just like fonetically pronouncing it as an eel. And I

873
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: don't even really remember how it was spelled. So I

874
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: contacted Keith Sutton, who wrote this book. I thought I

875
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: read it in. He said, no, Clay, I've never heard

876
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: of that, but I read it somewhere, because ten twelve

877
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: years ago I quoted it in an article that was

878
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: at one time online, but that article is no longer online. Well,

879
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: we just had a Daniel Boone historian. We just interviewed

880
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: Daniel Boone historian. Ted Franklin Blue ran the whole eel

881
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: thing by him, and he didn't know what we're talking about. Yeah,

882
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: well you're in hot water, buddy. Well I'm gonna I'm

883
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: gonna keep searching for it because I I've read it.

884
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: I've read it somewhere. I loved I love Paul Revere,

885
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: whether he wrote or not, by which I love either way. Dude,

886
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: if it's not true, we just need to make it

887
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: true and tan a deer neck a cylinder, stitch one

888
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: in and fill it full of barres and put a

889
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: purse string on the other end and draw it tight.

890
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: I just don't think you could make that up, you know,

891
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: I mean, like, no, that would you might have. You

892
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: might have dreamt it in some sort of hallucinatory state

893
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: or something that's possible. That is possible. So what's interesting

894
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: is there's another old measurement called an L E L L.

895
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 1: What's that? It's uh Northwestern European unit of measurement originally

896
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: understood as a cubit the combined length of the forearm

897
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: and extended hand. That's it, dude, it's gotta be L L.

898
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 1: But no, but it has nothing to do with no no, no, no. Listen.

899
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: I bet money that the volume of a white tailed

900
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: deer neck so together, would be equivalent to a Yeah,

901
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: so they used the deer neck. And but the unit

902
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: of measurement is an E L L. You're honest, You're like,

903
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: you're like Sherlock Holmes. Man, he's like a guy with

904
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: with Google. Yah. Wikipedia. I'm not making the connection. I am.

905
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: You are to say I said to you, Let's say

906
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: I said to you, I had a uh my kid.

907
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: Let's say to take my kids palm, okay, and I

908
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: poured some liquid in my kid's palm. And it just

909
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: so happens that an ounce of water fits in my

910
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: kid's palm. And I were to say, oh, I'll I

911
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: can tell you what ounce is my kid's palm. When

912
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: he holds water in his palm, that's exactly an ounce.

913
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: So it could be that he was reading where some

914
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: guys said that we we know there's a unit of measurement,

915
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: and some guy says, some guy realizes that he can

916
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 1: equate or get an equivalent of that unit of measurement

917
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: when he fills a deer neck, that that winds up

918
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: being that if I said, deer neck, is it holds

919
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: a leader roughly a leader? I know, But the the

920
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: l that I just described has nothing to do with volume. Oh,

921
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: I should listen more carefully, but picture that it did.

922
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: I bet that's the connection. I bet the just somehow

923
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: that measurement. You know, maybe the deer neck was eighteen inches,

924
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: but they they sold Barger that the storage of the

925
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: beargrease was in the tan neck hide of a deer,

926
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: and they used that unit of measurement to describe the quantity.

927
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: You better go find it. Yeah, let me tell you something, Clay.

928
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: Here's a no, this is an apocryphal story. Tell me

929
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: what that means the second time we've used it on

930
00:57:51,520 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: the podcast. Um, it means that it's um. I can't

931
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: explain it. Like it sort of like captures the essence

932
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: of a thing, dubious authenticity, something widely circulated as set time.

933
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: I got this wrong. Oh no, I got right. There

934
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: was an apocryphal story that General Sherman this this listen

935
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: to what I'm telling you, Clay, about this dear neck deal.

936
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: People used to same undivided attention. But listen to his

937
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: listen Man. I listened to him so carefully that I

938
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: realized there was a problem. No one else here realized

939
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: there was a problem. Go ahead. There's a story that

940
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: General Sherman went to the Texas Assembly and said, we

941
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: need to kill all the buffalo in order to defeat

942
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: the Native Americans. That once we kill the buffalo, they'll

943
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: have nothing to eat, and we'll be able to subjugate

944
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: them to reservation confinement. That he that he said, articulated

945
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: this perspective. Later, a graduate student working under the historian

946
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,439
Speaker 1: Dan Flores, who had been reading that his whole life.

947
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: I've read that. I was like, well, where did that go? Where? Where? Like?

948
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: When did he give the speech? He goes down to

949
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: Austin to do his research. General Sherman never even spoke,

950
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: never addressed the Texas Assembly. Huh, But it is a

951
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: widely trafficed somehow entered under it, like it it It

952
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: entered the sort of cannon of understanding in a way

953
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: that no one ever went and looked, and it just

954
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: became like a repeated thing and a repeated thing and

955
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: repeated thing the same way. I run around telling people

956
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: about this dear neck business. And then someone someday it

957
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm really, what exactly when did that happen?

958
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: And then then like, you know what, it didn't like

959
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: we've been all spouting off the same thing from the

960
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: same place. You know that Boone used to shoot the

961
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: boonwood bark squirrels. You know this, well, I've heard this

962
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: boonwood bark squirrels. Turns out the guy that says he

963
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: saw Boone bark squirrels some year in Kentucky Boone wasn't

964
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: in Kentucky that year. Mhm, he was in Missouri. But

965
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: that's an every damn book. So now everyone knows what

966
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: apocryphal means. Are we sure Lincoln was ever even in Gettysburg?

967
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: We should follow up? Turns out, yeah, uh, but either way.

968
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:48,479
Speaker 1: This cryptocurrency called bear grease, um, I'm into it. And

969
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: a guy wrote in that he thinks that it could

970
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: be possible, and we know how to like wildly inflate.

971
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: This is the part you can't tell people how to

972
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: wildly inflate Clay's bear Grease cryptocurrency, just a shortage of

973
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: here right, no, no, no, no, okay, Clay. Should we

974
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: tell or not tell? Well, I mean, I guess if

975
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it, we shouldn't tell. If I'm not

976
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: gonna do it, we should tell him, just to show

977
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: people how much we think about these things. But a

978
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: guy wrote in to say that he thinks that, uh.

979
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: He says, if we're a programmer wrote in, he says,

980
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: uh that he could work up something that could quote

981
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: work to both our benefits. She sounds like a bear

982
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: eel sales. I mean, I am way in and that's

983
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: and it's gonna trade when we produce it. Instead of

984
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: buying a bitcoin, you'll buy a tablespoon up to you know,

985
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: and it'll be measured up to an eel. You can

986
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: buy an eel of bear grease and it'll be a night.

987
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm out of it. That listener email feels like you

988
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: could be part of like a deposition someday. Yeah, yeah,

989
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: just thinking it sounds like some crooked dudes. Is it

990
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: sure that you said it could work to both of

991
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: your venger Um Clay is gonna break down a cool

992
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: story about burgeras um, and I'll also give us an

993
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: update on Burgeri's podcast. But first, it's the end of

994
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: Chester the investor like the end and Chester sold out

995
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: bought a Walleye boat. Tell aybody the story Chester. Well,

996
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm super happy, you know with my decisions. Um, bitcoin

997
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: was going, Bitcoin was taking well. Jesser was telling me

998
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: how bitcoin is gonna be worth a hundred thousand dollars

999
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: per coin by the end of the year, because still

1000
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: there's a chance. Um. Anyways, Bitcoin, I was sick of

1001
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: staring at it, and I sold it and it happened

1002
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: to be right before it tanked. Was it addictive to you,

1003
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: like like Instagram? Like like an app that you check?

1004
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: It is nodding their head. Yes, he had a little

1005
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: bit of a checking problem. You said you said you

1006
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: were sick of staring at it. So I guess I'm

1007
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: just trying to get to the bottom. What does that mean.

1008
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm kind of sick of staring at Instagram,

1009
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: but I still have it, um sometimes, you know, but

1010
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just got got rid of it

1011
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: because one I needed a Walleye boat, and I feel

1012
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: like I wasn't too addicted to it. No, you must

1013
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: not have been addictive because you haven't bought any more.

1014
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: What does it mean to be sick of staring at it?

1015
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: Like eighty bucks in bitcoin? We're still right now, still

1016
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: in Just did you make much money on you when

1017
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: you sold? I made only a few hundred bucks that yeah,

1018
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: but I was way up. And but I mean I

1019
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: got out before I lost. So. Um. But I had

1020
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: been looking for a boat for a long time, and

1021
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: I was sick of getting chased off the lake by weather.

1022
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: In Seth's boat, Seth and Eye fish a lot, and uh,

1023
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: we had to get off the lake a lot because

1024
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: weather had come in. And I bought a boat. I

1025
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: found a boat in Wisconsin, Oshkosh, Wisconsin, Uh, for the

1026
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: Lake Winnebago there, which is like an excellent little walleye lake.

1027
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: So I figured the boat had some good juju and stuff. Um.

1028
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: It's called a Sylvan. It's a sixteen and a half

1029
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: foot boat, super deep v really wide beam. Um, it's

1030
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,919
Speaker 1: a tiller and it's just like perfect little fishing boat.

1031
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: So my parents grabbed it checked it out. My dad

1032
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: consulted with his buddy who is a walleye fisherman, and

1033
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: he said the boat was good. They drove it out

1034
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: to South Dakota, met me. I fished my parents a

1035
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: little bit. The boat's probably caught, been in it like

1036
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: six times, probably pushing a hundred walleye. All right, so

1037
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: good for you, Damn Chester. Yeah, we gotta get out

1038
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: anybody here, we gotta get he's running my fish finder

1039
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: on it right now. Well, yeah, I need I need

1040
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: a need a better fish finder. The one that was

1041
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: on there is supposedly good, but it's not working. So

1042
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: so can you handle some bigger waves? Now? Yeah? I

1043
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: was actually out there the other day with Matt, one

1044
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: of our producers, and it was real choppy. You wouldn't

1045
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: want to be out there if it were any chop here.

1046
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: And we didn't take on water. So it's it's sweet,

1047
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: like and I'm, you know, glad, I'm not doing the bitcoin,

1048
01:05:54,120 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: but bitcoin is coming back. So Chester divested in bitcoin. Yeah.

1049
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: What I wanted to see. What I want to do.

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01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: What I want to do with the bargrease cryptocurrency is

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01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: it's you. It's usable for all of our internal stuff, yep,

1052
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: and then we can I keep want to tell people

1053
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: about it. I don't I shouldn't mention it how to

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01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: manipulate the currency, Okay, Clay, give us a book report.

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01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: So this came from where everything comes from, Jim helf Jim, Yeah,

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01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: Jim Heffelfinger. He sent us, Uh, he sent Steve and

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01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 1: I an article. It was actually an article in a

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01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: magazine from eighteen seventy one. And I'll go ahead and

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01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: tell you the punchline. He's just Jim just getting caught

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01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,919
Speaker 1: up on his reading and uh got into his eight Yeah.

1061
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: So so the punch line of this guy's ends up

1062
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: in bargrease. Okay. But it was a pretty fascinating article,

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01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: and it it wasn't a light read. I think there's

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01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: like seventeen printed pages fine print, so it was it was.

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01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 1: It was a good read. But it was published in

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01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: Scribner's Monthly, which was a magazine November eighteen seventy one,

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01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 1: and it's the title of the article is thirty seven

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01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: Days of Peril. What kind of magazine was Scribtners. It

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01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: was a big magazine at the time, like a big

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01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: lifestyle magazine, and a lot of the they would have,

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01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: you know, they would send like correspondence out to the

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01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: American West and do big stories. But it was like,

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01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: so if you like, you know this because you've referenced

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01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: it and you're writing in the past, Yeah, you see

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01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 1: a lot of old Scriptners things. I mean, it was

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01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: it was a long It was like a long It

1077
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: was a very highly subscribed long form journalism travelogue magazine

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01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: of its day, kind of equivalent to like what you

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01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: might imagine it's gone out. Do you remember when you

1080
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: were kid, like Life magazine, you would have consumed Scriptners

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01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: in the way that people would have consumed Life magas

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01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:06,959
Speaker 1: like a general interest publication. Yeah. Interesting, Yeah, this this

1083
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 1: article would fit right in with what you're saying, Steve.

1084
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: So the title of it is thirty seven Days of Peril,

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01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: and the it basically starts out with a guy in Helena, Montana,

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01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: and he and a group of people are gonna go

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01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: into the Upper Yellowstone, which in that time period was

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01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 1: a super wild, uninhabited or uncivilized place, and he said

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01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: they were expecting thirty days on horseback, and he never

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01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: really told why they were going. They weren't necessarily hunting,

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01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 1: but they were going down into the Upper Yellowstone. And

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01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: somehow he gets separated from the people that he's with

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01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: and he they're all on horseback, and he's separated from

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01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: his people, and he doesn't think much about it because

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01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: he knows where they're going. And he he talks about

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01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 1: camping by himself the first night and how he'll find

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01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: him the next day, and it's no big deal. Well,

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01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: the next day he tries to track him and has

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01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: trouble tracking him, and so it comes the second day

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01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 1: and he still hasn't found him. And on the third

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01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: day he's kind of like, dang, I'm all by myself.

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01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 1: But he still got his horse and his rifle and

1103
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: all his gear, and he gets off of his horse

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01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,799
Speaker 1: in the wilderness to go look for sign to track

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01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: his buddies. And on his horse, he has his scabbard,

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01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: he has all his gear, every ounce of gear except

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01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: for the clothes on his back, and he and the

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01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: horse spooks. He just drops the reins and just gets off,

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01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: this good Western horse. You know that he wasn't worried

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01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: about the horse running off. The horse spooks and takes

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01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: off over the hill, and he spends a day looking

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01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: for the horse, and the horse is gone and he

1113
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: never sees the horse again. And so he is I

1114
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: don't know how far, but so far away from civilization

1115
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: that he's in real peril without anything but the clothes

1116
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: on his back. And basically that's the the beginning point

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01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: of thirty seven Days of Peril, and he does an

1118
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 1: incredible job of describing all the scenarios that go through

1119
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:30,440
Speaker 1: someone's mind who is alone in solitude in the wilderness,

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Speaker 1: being starved, having to deal with the elements. It didn't

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01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: say exactly when it happened, but clearly it wasn't in

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01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: the winter, but it feels like it was sometime in

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Speaker 1: the fall, because there were times when there was a

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01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: foot of snow on the ground that would that the

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01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: snow would melt. But basically he lived off thistle roots.

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01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: He he he would dig thistle roots, and there was

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01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 1: a period of time when he was by the hot

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01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: geysers in in the Yellowstone region and he would cook

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01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: thistle roots and geysers. He would sleep by the geysers

1130
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 1: for the thermo geothermal warmth, and he described being sopping

1131
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 1: wet from the vapor of the geyser, but also being

1132
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: warm while the air temperature was super cold, so like

1133
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 1: really wild stuff. He he one time made a shelter

1134
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: out of um the limbs of an evergreen tree, you know,

1135
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 1: made like a makeshift shelter. And he said, he said

1136
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 1: that that a hummingbird flew into the shelter and he

1137
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 1: caught it with his hand, and he plucked the hummingbird

1138
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 1: and ate it raw, and he said it was quote

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01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: a delicious meal for a half starved man. Um. He

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01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: he did a man these guys, I see so much

1141
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: similarity in the way these guys wrote from like during

1142
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 1: that time period, there's a lot of just lit your

1143
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 1: literary terms and different things that use. The way they

1144
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: described that was so similar between like a lot of

1145
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: like this girlsh docker guy that I've talked about on

1146
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: my podcast. But here's the interesting part I think that

1147
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: you'll like Steve is that he started having hallucinations um

1148
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: at some period during his during his trip, and he

1149
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: described it like this. This is a quote, and this

1150
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: is while he is starved, traveling in the wilderness, very

1151
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: much so distressed by the elements. I mean, he talks

1152
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 1: about storms and snow and he says, I was constantly

1153
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:48,560
Speaker 1: traveling in a dream land and indulging in strange reveries

1154
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: such as I had never before known. I seemed to

1155
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:56,799
Speaker 1: possess a sort of duality of being, while constantly reminding

1156
01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: me of the necessities of my condition, had my imagination

1157
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 1: with the vagaries of the most extravagant character. Nevertheless, I

1158
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:10,520
Speaker 1: was perfectly conscious of the tendency of these morbid influence

1159
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 1: and often tried to shake them off. But like he

1160
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 1: he was hallucinating, and he he had a plan for

1161
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: how to get out of the wilderness. Like he thought, well,

1162
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: if I go over this mountain range, there's this town.

1163
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: And he gets way into his journey to get to

1164
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: this other town, and he has what he called a hallucination.

1165
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: I think some people might call it like a visitation.

1166
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 1: He said, Uh, he had a visitation by someone in

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01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,520
Speaker 1: his life that was a medical doctor that he perceived

1168
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: as really wise, who he said, literally was there with

1169
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: him and told him, don't go that way, there's no

1170
01:13:55,200 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: food that direction. Go back the way you came. He does,

1171
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 1: what this, you know, this hallucination says and he goes

1172
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 1: back and backtracks himself all the way. But I mean,

1173
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: we're talking like a hundred miles and and uh, it

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01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: was just wild to hear it because he's this he's

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01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 1: evaluating it after the fact, you know, and he credits

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01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 1: this very vivid encounter with this you know, person from

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01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: his past that said don't go that way, and he

1178
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 1: went back, and long story short, he uh on his

1179
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: way back, there's a search party that's been sent out,

1180
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: and after thirty seven days, the search party finds him

1181
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 1: and takes him back to a cabin. And here's where

1182
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 1: the real hero of the story comes in. So they

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01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: get him back to the cabin and they start feeding him,

1184
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 1: and basically he can't keep any food down. And he

1185
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 1: he talks about, how, you know, I've gone through all

1186
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: this and now I'm gonna die that I'm back in civilization.

1187
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: His body was rejecting all the food. Well, the night

1188
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: after here's the quote. Here's the quote. This is this

1189
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,600
Speaker 1: is the climax punchline of the story. Be ready to

1190
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, get excited. The night after my arrival. The

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01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: night after my arrival at the cabin, while suffering the

1192
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 1: most excruciating agony and thinking that I had only been

1193
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: saved to die among friends, a loud knock was heard

1194
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: on the cabin door. An old man and mountain costume

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01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: entered Hunter, whose life had been spent among the mountains.

1196
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:52,719
Speaker 1: As some beautiful, beautiful writing right, he was. His name

1197
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 1: was Janice pou tell Us, and he was on his

1198
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: way to find his brother. He listened to the stories

1199
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 1: of my sufferings, and tears raptly course down his face.

1200
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 1: The rough weathered, his rough weathered, beaten face. This man

1201
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: was not only a rugged mountain man, but he was

1202
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: in touch with his feeling. You tell us why he

1203
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: was crying again, I kind of got confused there. He

1204
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: he was crying when this man told him about his

1205
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 1: thirty seven days of peril. The smell mountain man wept

1206
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 1: in the cabin. I don't think so well, that's what

1207
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:27,560
Speaker 1: he says. That's do you feel like you're gonna cry? No? No,

1208
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: read the seventeen just small tight inter He's saying that

1209
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: this like I'm I'm setting I know, I know, I know,

1210
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 1: and I know the point and I like the reason

1211
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 1: I I wanted. I know about the punch line of

1212
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 1: the story, and I want Clay to tell it. But

1213
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: it's got a real quick I don't buy that. The

1214
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: man shows up and cries upon hearing what happened to him, cry,

1215
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Steve, Like it's kind of like what

1216
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: I older men that are in solitude are are very

1217
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 1: um susceptible to emotional. Remember remember Reagan developed that towards

1218
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 1: the end of his second term, developed that strange tendency

1219
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 1: to cry a lot. Mm hmm. I think I'm there

1220
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 1: right now in my life. I'm final, I've been there

1221
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: my whole life. How do you feel like crying right

1222
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 1: now about hearing about this guy? No? But what was

1223
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: I telling you the other day? That were I was

1224
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 1: telling you to watch? Oh? Yeah, that Uh it's kind

1225
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 1: of goofy. I don't want to diverge diverge too much

1226
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 1: here from way. Okay, okay, here's a here's a quick

1227
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: way to do it watching the Olympics. Did you cry

1228
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 1: at all? Watch the Olympics? You didn't watch the Olympics

1229
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: at all? Is that my fishhet? I missed the whole thing?

1230
01:17:55,479 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: Anybody else watching the Olympics? Huh? Some of it about like, uh,

1231
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, achievements and losses in triumphs and and disappointments

1232
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: and injuries, and then I don't know when people get

1233
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: their medals, Like a lot of times, I'm like it

1234
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: just touches me just that much. Might have been his personality,

1235
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 1: that is when I'm getting that I cried on my

1236
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: babies were born. No, he's gonna list off all the time.

1237
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 1: He's cried on one hand. No, I cried at the

1238
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 1: end of my life without me. I cried at the

1239
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: end of the ken Burns Vietnam thing when the guy

1240
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 1: that didn't want to go to the wall finally goes

1241
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: to the wall. That made me cry. I did not cry,

1242
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 1: but it was very close to with the Rogan episode

1243
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 1: of the North Korea Defector. Have you listened to that

1244
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 1: man that's powerful and like I could if I were

1245
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 1: in the room, if I were in the room when

1246
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 1: she was like telling those stories, I'm pretty sure I

1247
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: would have. And like, so I can see how this

1248
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: mountain man, like having a presence in front of you

1249
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: telling you of his hardship, would do that. Yeah, man,

1250
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 1: I regret bringing it up. Clay bout the mountain man

1251
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: than it does the story. So here's the mountain man.

1252
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna continue reading from the quote, okay, And

1253
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 1: and we're we're drawing nigh to our conclusions. Okay, i'd

1254
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 1: only been had I only been saved to die among friends.

1255
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 1: A loud knock was heard on the cabin door. An

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Speaker 1: old mountain man and costume entered a hunter whose life

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01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: had been spent among the mountains. He was on his

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01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: way to find a brother. He listened to the story

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01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: of my sufferings, and tears rapidly coursed each other down

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01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 1: his rough, weather beaten face. But when he was told

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01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 1: of my present necessity, brightening in a moment, he exclaimed,

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01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 1: why Lord bless you. If that is all I have

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01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 1: a very the very remedy you need in two hours time,

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01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: all shall be well with you. He left the cabin,

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01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: returning in a moment with a sack filled with the

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01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: fat of a bear which he had killed a few

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01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: hours before. From this he rendered out a pint measure

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01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 1: of oil, and I drank the whole of it. It

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01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: proved to be the needed remedy, and the next day,

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01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 1: freed from the pain, with appetite and digestion reestablished. I

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01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: felt that good. I felt that good food and plenty

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01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 1: of it were only necessary for an early recovery. In

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01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 1: a day or two, let's see, yadi yadi ya. He

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01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: was good to go, and he went back to Bozeman, Montana. Bargrease, bear, grease, save.

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01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: So that's why Jim Jim Heffelfinger had read that, and uh,

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01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,759
Speaker 1: he's been listening to the Bargreas podcast and he wanted

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01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 1: me to read that little section about the old Mountain man. Dude,

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01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: that is great and bear Grease podcast. There you have it.

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01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: Do you think you could stomach two cups of rendered

1280
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: row oil? No? No, no no. I watched my brother

1281
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 1: drink of coffee mug. I dropped my brother drink a

1282
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 1: coffee mug full of it. Nothing happened to him. Huh,

1283
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 1: your brother, I said, man, you are gonna be having

1284
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:25,600
Speaker 1: some problems. Nothing happened to him. And Jim could not

1285
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: have anticipated that. We'd also talked about the Olympics and

1286
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 1: childbirth and North Korea in the story, so Yanni crying

1287
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 1: all about everything? Um, what's funny? What brings two worlds together?

1288
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 1: Is probably the two most mentioned to people on the show.

1289
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: Or uh, our buddy Doug Dern from the Driftless area,

1290
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: Wisconsin and Jim Heffelfinger, And they were together yesterday. WHOA.

1291
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 1: So if there was like a cosmic disturbance there, but

1292
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: cosmics like you felt something in the force, it was

1293
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 1: because those who were driving around ducks. But he's Doug

1294
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 1: even took him to see the navel Doug's hat on

1295
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 1: right now. It's good to hate. It's not ours, it's

1296
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 1: just our turn dark during Thank You Clay, tune into

1297
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: Clay's Bargers podcast. He's got a three partner coming up

1298
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 1: on boone. It's happening right now as this podcast podcast

1299
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 1: kicking ass. Man, is this when we get an answer

1300
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 1: to Clay about coonskin hats? Oh yeah, alright, get it

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01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 1: for sure? Man? How boon didn't like him? Well that

1302
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 1: it's not what it seems. That's that's how Clay set

1303
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 1: it up. Hmm, yeah, we are. Yeah, it's it's been

1304
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 1: really fun, very fun building out this series. A little

1305
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: more challenging than I thought telling someone's whole life story,

1306
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 1: but got getting a lot of really great feedback on it.

1307
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean, what's cool is that there's a lot of

1308
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:00,600
Speaker 1: non hunting people that are listening to the Burgers podcast

1309
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 1: and liking it. You know. Yeah, it's it's been a

1310
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 1: lot of fun born on. There was a there was

1311
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: a guy that on the Bargaries podcast. It again, there's

1312
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 1: a guy that an old man broke down on the

1313
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: Bargaries podcast and cried Mr Roy Yeah, yeah, talking about

1314
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 1: tears and old man. You won't hear some crying can't

1315
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 1: fire stories. Bro Well, I was going to bring that

1316
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: up right. Tell me you could listen to all of those. Now,

1317
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 1: it's different for you because you worked on the problem.

1318
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 1: Chokes me up a little bit, brody story, chokes me

1319
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 1: up a little bit. Saving that boy who's dead. Oh,

1320
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: I got bolkou feelings. Man, they just don't show themselves,

1321
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: uh through viscous liquid. You don't you feel that I'm

1322
01:23:54,960 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: a dispassionate person. I feel like you declared yourself fashion

1323
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 1: in person. Let's wrap her up. Clayveries podcast. Tune in

1324
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: more stuff about booming thanks to Joins claim you guys

1325
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: next time. Wait, wait, waitit, what's going on? Just wrap

1326
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 1: it up? Got like thirty minutes the podcast left. That

1327
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 1: was like an eighty minute podcast. You did, right. I

1328
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:27,799
Speaker 1: forgot forgot. Let's keep this in. I forgot. I forgot

1329
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 1: about that. I was scrapping macrol Fronctation. You can do that.

1330
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: I was scrapping macro Fronctation because the shirts aren't available. Yeah,

1331
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: and now we're rolling into rolling into our man, I

1332
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 1: saw some tears welling up in your eyes. You're running

1333
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 1: to the bathroom especially, so a bit forgot about Spencer

1334
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: taking over all, Right, Claire, you're sticking around Batman, We're

1335
01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna close out with We're gonna cloth is

1336
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: out with a Spencer. You have to think of a

1337
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: catchy title for the trivia segment where where we test,

1338
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 1: where we blow test listeners minds. Phil did that. In

1339
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 1: the editing, Heap threw in like some wild mix of

1340
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: who Wants to Be a Millionaire? Music with No Country

1341
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 1: for Old Men scene. I loved it. Oh, keep playing

1342
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 1: it from real quick? Was that a Phil original? That

1343
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: was a Phil original? That's great. I don't even know

1344
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 1: about this. Yeah, you should listen to the podcast. It's

1345
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 1: pretty good. So I do. Some guys listen just for

1346
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 1: quality control stuff, but I'm here so I kind of

1347
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: know what's in it. Yeah, it's a good point. But no,

1348
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 1: I do quite often listen hit us Phil. Look, I

1349
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 1: need to know what I shouldayer win everything. I'm saying,

1350
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 1: just tend to win everything. Well, those things were meant

1351
01:25:55,200 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 1: to be together. I didn't even know it. That's great, Okay,

1352
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 1: so t it up, Spencer. We are back for the

1353
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 1: second installment of Meat Eat Your Trivia that's what it's called. Yeah,

1354
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 1: this is trivia. You're not gonna get from Jeopardy or Yeah,

1355
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get these questions from Jeopardy or

1356
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 1: Trivial Pursuit or a bar night trivia anything like that.

1357
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: These are born out of our four verticals. What are

1358
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: they Steve, hunting, fishing, wild foods, and conservation. That's right,

1359
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 1: And there is a prize, just like last time, Meat

1360
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 1: Eater will donate one hundred dollars to the conservation organization

1361
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 1: of the winner's choice in the winner's name. We need

1362
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 1: to get Chester dressed up in a little speed over

1363
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 1: to turn the when it turns into a real thing,

1364
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 1: to turn the things, you know, like to be like

1365
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 1: a white character, but it'll be Jester speed up. This

1366
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 1: is gonna be like a sex appeal to it, man,

1367
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: like you know that old role they used to have

1368
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: like on Prices. Right, he had like fifty people running

1369
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 1: around in nightgowns. Right, it's gonna be ten questions. Last time,

1370
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 1: Brody and Cal tied with six, then went to the

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01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 1: tiebreaker and Brody one. I think with this group of folks, though,

1372
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 1: we got some ringers in the room and uh and

1373
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: joining us virtually, and this group of questions, I think

1374
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna take seven or eight. As we designed this show,

1375
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 1: as uh as we designed this show, and listeners are

1376
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 1: here with us in the design process. I think it

1377
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 1: should always be that the reigning champion like Brody, should

1378
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: be here. It's it's the raining champion's birthday, so I

1379
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 1: think he can just do whatever he wants. He says

1380
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 1: he's dragging a crawler highness right now for Wallyares, I'll

1381
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: just text them with him. I like it. Like the

1382
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 1: sound of that too, so we ready. It's pretty slow.

1383
01:27:55,160 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 1: M hmm, I'm ready, all right. Question one, the category

1384
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: is cooking, and last time the first question was multiple choice.

1385
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 1: I've made a decision. We're gonna do that every time

1386
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 1: going forward, just to give you guys some confidence, hopefully

1387
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 1: for the next time. Every question, every question is multiple choice,

1388
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 1: every question one when we do trivia. So last time

1389
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 1: the question one was multiple choice. This time question one

1390
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 1: is multiple choice. The next nine will not be there.

1391
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 1: The category is cooking. Which of these cooking oils has

1392
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 1: the highest smoke point? Peanut oil, extra virgin olive oil,

1393
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 1: canola oil, or coconut oil. Now here's where the question

1394
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:47,719
Speaker 1: is squad. Oh they all refined, Yes, they refined. Sure

1395
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: your choices again, which one has the highest smoke point? Peanut,

1396
01:28:53,680 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 1: extra virgin, olive, canola or coconut? And score? Just for fun? Please?

1397
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 1: Phil can't take it. He's such a trivia guy. Have

1398
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 1: we talked about it on this podcast? Like Phil's like

1399
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: serious trivia Like he when when covid started, he would

1400
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 1: host meat Eater trivia nights over zoom Like, I don't

1401
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: know if it's weekly, but he'll just bring people people

1402
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 1: to trivia nights at bars. It shifted into karaoke the

1403
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 1: for the last few weeks. When you switch back from that,

1404
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 1: give me a shout. Really, yeah, first time I hung

1405
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 1: out with Phil outside of work was supposed to be

1406
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: a trivia night and then it was a karaoke night.

1407
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 1: Did you do up and do it anything? Oh? Man?

1408
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 1: I do songs all the time. Really yeah? What's the

1409
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 1: song that you do? Um? Most recently did Neon Moon

1410
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: by Brooks and Dunn. I did Crocodile Rock, John, Phil

1411
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 1: and I did a duet. We did, we did. We

1412
01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 1: did a shadow from the latest Stars Are In movie

1413
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 1: with Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga. Do you want to

1414
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:08,559
Speaker 1: guess who is who? I don't know. I was Bradley Cooper.

1415
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,759
Speaker 1: He was Lady Gaga, but like always, he stole the show.

1416
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:15,719
Speaker 1: Did great. Okay, let's not keep going here. Alright, alright,

1417
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 1: does everyone have an answer? Reveal your answers. We have

1418
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:23,799
Speaker 1: extra virgin olive oil at three hundred fifty degrees, coconut

1419
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 1: oil at three hundred fifty degrees, canola oil at four

1420
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:33,600
Speaker 1: hundred degrees, and the correct answer peanut oil is four fifty. Oh. Yeah,

1421
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 1: so we had a big win for Steve. Oh, I

1422
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 1: just put a peanut Okay, yeah, I saw him. Clay,

1423
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 1: would you know? I didn't get it right? So everybody

1424
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 1: but Phil and Clay. It's got to Clay as honest man,

1425
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: because it's like there's very few people, very few people

1426
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 1: that I would trust to do it remotely. That's right.

1427
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 1: He could be playing Google and we wouldn't even know.

1428
01:30:55,840 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 1: But but Clay is, like, I trust him. It's that trust.

1429
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: I'm terrible at trivia. To question to the topic is first? First, First,

1430
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 1: what is the name for a female fox? Ah, what

1431
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 1: is the name for a female fox? I don't think

1432
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:27,560
Speaker 1: that's a fur question. To be honest, with you. I

1433
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 1: think it's like mammalogy. Sure. Uh, it's hard to look

1434
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,639
Speaker 1: for feedback. It's hard to integrate first into the trivia.

1435
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 1: So this is this is the first question. Do you

1436
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 1: ever give tips? I'll give you some points. I will

1437
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 1: not give a hint. No, can we do that game

1438
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 1: where what's that game where you give the answer to

1439
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 1: a question? Jeopardy? Okay? For a future one? Uh? The

1440
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:56,640
Speaker 1: answer is plue? Remember that, and you're making craft a

1441
01:31:56,720 --> 01:32:00,080
Speaker 1: question out of that? Okay, okay, So remind you. The

1442
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 1: question is what is the name for a female fox?

1443
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 1: Steve was very confident and had an answer before I

1444
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 1: finished the question. But the rest of the room does

1445
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:15,440
Speaker 1: not look like they have it. I'm on it, don't don't. Oh,

1446
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 1: all right, here we go reveal your answers. We have

1447
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 1: a lot of Okay, The correct answer, as Steve and

1448
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 1: Clay have is vixen. Here's another one. What is in

1449
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 1: the round? Okay? I remember that a male fox is

1450
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 1: called a dog fox or todd, a baby fox is

1451
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 1: called a pup kit or cub, and a group of

1452
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 1: foxes is called a skulk or a leash or a

1453
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:50,639
Speaker 1: female is a vixen. Can you hit me the group again,

1454
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 1: I never heard that is a skulk or a leash. Huh,

1455
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 1: really skulk because used other places skulking around. I saw

1456
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:02,400
Speaker 1: you out there, skulk. You spoke off be good in

1457
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 1: fox tense. So we have Steve got the first two right,

1458
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 1: so this is more like it. Man questions. I got

1459
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 1: humiliated question three, and I would consider this probably the

1460
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 1: toughest question of the batch for today. This is a

1461
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 1: visual question, but I'm gonna do such a damn good

1462
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 1: job describing what these guys are looking at that if

1463
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 1: you're listening this, you're gonna be able to play along

1464
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 1: and know what's happening. I'm holding in my hand a

1465
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 1: bench made steep Country knife, and I would wager say

1466
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 1: this is like the most popular knife in the office.

1467
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 1: Anytime I'm in the field with one of you fellas,

1468
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 1: I feel like you guys have the steep Country Yeah,

1469
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 1: go to the meater dot com. You can see the

1470
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,639
Speaker 1: knife and buy it. That's right. And you may not

1471
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 1: know it, but one of the reasons you like it

1472
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 1: so much is because of these notches in the back

1473
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 1: of the blade. So the question is a little warm grippers,

1474
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 1: what do you call the small notche or filework cut

1475
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 1: into the back of a knife blade song. Yeah, that's

1476
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 1: a tough one, Spencer, Karen, can you help me describe

1477
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 1: what it is? I'm I'm we're looking at here in

1478
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 1: the room. You know. It's like if you, oh, wait,

1479
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 1: this part by the handle note on the blade. So

1480
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 1: if you're holding the knife and your thumb lines up

1481
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:28,759
Speaker 1: with the non sharp obviously part of the blade above

1482
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 1: the handle, you've got some ridges like you could really

1483
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 1: kind of coarsely maybe file your nail. That's right. So

1484
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:44,599
Speaker 1: what do you call these small notches or filework cut

1485
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 1: into the back knife? I don't I haven't seen anyone

1486
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 1: come up with an answer yet. Well, I got one

1487
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:56,480
Speaker 1: written down. Yeah, I don't think I have it, but descriptions.

1488
01:34:56,520 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 1: Everybody ready reveal your answers. Nobody got it right. The

1489
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:08,680
Speaker 1: correct answer is jimping. What this is the jimping of

1490
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 1: a knife? J I M P I n G. Wow.

1491
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 1: That's great. That's good trivia right there there. Occasionally, these

1492
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 1: repeating ridges are just for aesthetics, Like if if you

1493
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 1: went into a gas station and they had like some

1494
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:25,639
Speaker 1: big Rambo knives right that are like twelve inches long,

1495
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 1: then it would just be like an aesthetics thing. But

1496
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 1: for a knife like the steep Country Um, these have

1497
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 1: a real purpose, and that is to keep your index

1498
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 1: finger or thumb from sliding around. Yeah. Sure, that's why

1499
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 1: I call him thumb grippers. But I'm in that's what

1500
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 1: I called it to what I called it scoring on

1501
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:45,640
Speaker 1: my chart on my little Deally knife. Makers call it

1502
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 1: file work. No, they call it jimping play. I'm gonna

1503
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 1: need this spoon expert to verify that's a real term

1504
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,559
Speaker 1: spencer and everything. But he probably I think he probably

1505
01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 1: does these right. I want to know how he came

1506
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 1: across the gymping. I was actually reading the description of

1507
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 1: our steep country knife and bench made uh talked about

1508
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 1: how this is why this is one of the reasons

1509
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 1: why it's the perfect field knife. It's because the jimping

1510
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:12,759
Speaker 1: is so good. If I type in jumping into Google,

1511
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 1: it auto fills jimping knife, jimping file, jimping definition, jimping patterns.

1512
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 1: I'll go to jimping knife and low and behold it's

1513
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 1: little thumb grippers at the top side base of the blade.

1514
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 1: That's right, So you didn't even know it. But when

1515
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 1: you're gutting out a deer or skinning a turkey or something.

1516
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:37,759
Speaker 1: That thing is helping you out a lot. Here's a YouTube.

1517
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 1: So there's an outfit called three River Blades. Back in

1518
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve posted a video knife making tutorial. How

1519
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 1: do I add jimping to an already made knife? There

1520
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 1: you go throw that term around. Now, you sound like

1521
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 1: a real outdoorsman. Question four, and I'll remind the audience,

1522
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:58,760
Speaker 1: nobody got question three right. So if you did get

1523
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:04,639
Speaker 1: it right, you're damn smart person. Question for categories public lands?

1524
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 1: What state leads America in bigfoot sightings? Who? What you're

1525
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 1: going to put down? Washington? What state leads America in

1526
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 1: bigfoot sightings? Now? Is this one of those like, um oh,

1527
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:24,600
Speaker 1: it's so obvious? Or is this one of those I

1528
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 1: didn't know that. I am a host that does not

1529
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 1: provide hinds, so you can I mean, this would be

1530
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 1: a tough one to verify. I would feel like, I mean,

1531
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 1: there's not like I have a solved, you know, like

1532
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:41,679
Speaker 1: website where you put up websites? There is So when

1533
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:44,040
Speaker 1: when I reveal the answer, I will give you my source, Clay,

1534
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:46,759
Speaker 1: and I think you'll be satisfied, just play along. Would

1535
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 1: you reminder what state leads America in bigfoot sightings? Does

1536
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 1: everybody have an answer? Reveal your answer? The correct answer,

1537
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 1: which I see nobody has is Washington. Is it like, Oh,

1538
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 1: that's obvious or is it I didn't know that? And

1539
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:13,639
Speaker 1: then what did I say? Well, you didn't tell me

1540
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know that state. Uh, Phil was the only

1541
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 1: one who got it right. This stat comes from the

1542
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 1: Bigfoot Field Researchers Organizations, who has been tracking Sasquatch sightings

1543
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 1: since in the last twenty five years, Washington has had

1544
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 1: six hundred and seventy six bigfoot sidings. Amazingly, Oregon, their

1545
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 1: neighbors to the south, has only had two hundred and

1546
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 1: fifty four big foot sidings, which is less than states

1547
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 1: like Florida, Ohio, and Illinois. See. I think it's kind

1548
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 1: of a self fulfilling prophecy thing for Washington because people

1549
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 1: flock there because they that's like the bigfoot state, and

1550
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 1: then they supposedly see big foot. This is absolutely a

1551
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 1: question about people, not about Bigfoot. God. I'm finding it's

1552
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: like this game, it's not so much what you know,

1553
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:03,200
Speaker 1: it's how good you are at Like how good. You

1554
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:08,160
Speaker 1: are your own psychology man. There you go psychology. The

1555
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 1: first thing that popped into my mind was Washington. You

1556
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 1: said that I was like poison, Well, poison the well

1557
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 1: damn man, Phil you keeping track score. I picked Oklahoma

1558
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:22,839
Speaker 1: because Oklahoma there was a senator that proposed a bigfoot

1559
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 1: hunting season like legitimately. Question five, the category is fish.

1560
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 1: What do you call the hybrid fish that's created by

1561
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:37,559
Speaker 1: a large mouth bass and a small mouth bass? Oh?

1562
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 1: What do you call the hybrid fish that's created by

1563
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:48,640
Speaker 1: a large mouth bass and a small mouth bass. I

1564
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 1: should really pay more attention when I'm atting bent. Everybody

1565
01:39:56,360 --> 01:40:02,439
Speaker 1: have an answer, yes, reveal your answers. The correct answer,

1566
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 1: which I see nobody has, is a meanmouth bass. Yeah,

1567
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 1: here's Steven's close mouth. If you someone to think you

1568
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:21,400
Speaker 1: foul hooked a bass, that's the hard spelled Yeah, a

1569
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 1: mean mouth bass. It got its name in the nineteen

1570
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:27,639
Speaker 1: sixties from biologists that watch a pond of them attack

1571
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 1: humans and dogs that would wade into shallow water. The

1572
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 1: meanmouth world record was broken earlier this year with a

1573
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 1: seven pound, nine ounce bass from Texas. If you want

1574
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 1: to see the pictures of it, go to the media

1575
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,639
Speaker 1: dot Com and read Maggie held those Juni leventh article

1576
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 1: titled the most interesting world record of the year. That

1577
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 1: is an announcer right there. Yeah, you've really overestimated this

1578
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:50,559
Speaker 1: group of players. No, no, I like it, like this

1579
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 1: man like man. So we are halfway through. Can you

1580
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 1: give us a scoreboard of date? Phil? In first place?

1581
01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 1: We have Steve Ronella. I thought I'm tired Clay with two.

1582
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:07,559
Speaker 1: I think Clay only has one. Yeah, everyone else has one.

1583
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm kicking ass, dude, game halftime, anybody can win, that's right.

1584
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:20,600
Speaker 1: Question six. The category is mountain men. I have a

1585
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:22,680
Speaker 1: lot of faith in this room to get this one right.

1586
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 1: Jebediah Smith, Jim Beckworth, and Hugh Glass all have this

1587
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:33,720
Speaker 1: cause of death in common. Jebediah Smith, Jim Beckworth, and

1588
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 1: Hugh Glass all have this cause of death in common?

1589
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:42,479
Speaker 1: How specific? Just general? I will accept a general answer.

1590
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 1: I got it. Jebediah Smith, Jim Beckworth, confident, and Huge Glass,

1591
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 1: three famous mountain men, all have this cause of death

1592
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:58,680
Speaker 1: in common. I'm confident, and I hope I'm confident in

1593
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:02,160
Speaker 1: my guess. I think Steve was confident, Yanni was confident.

1594
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure Steve got this one all right? Everybody has

1595
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:16,719
Speaker 1: an answer. Reveal your answer the correct answer, which only

1596
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 1: Steve has. All three were killed by Native Americans. Jebediah

1597
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:27,720
Speaker 1: Smith was shot by comanches in Kansas. Hugh Glass was

1598
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:32,679
Speaker 1: shot by a rick. Jedediah Smith. Jedediah Smith was killed

1599
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:38,599
Speaker 1: out a water hole by Native Americans in Kansas near

1600
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 1: modern day Kansas because his effects wound up in his

1601
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 1: effects wound up in Santa Fe or Taos. Just read

1602
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 1: about this, those Kansas double check me while I explained

1603
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:50,640
Speaker 1: the rest of the answer. Jebediah Smith shot by comanches

1604
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 1: in Kansas, Jed Dada Jededi Hugh Glass shot some trivit

1605
01:42:56,400 --> 01:43:02,760
Speaker 1: for you buster, bring him strong, Okay, I did not

1606
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 1: know that. And while some historians believe Jim Beckworth died

1607
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:10,519
Speaker 1: of natural causes, his personal friend and founder of the

1608
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:14,160
Speaker 1: Rocky Mountain News, William Buyers, claims he was poisoned to

1609
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 1: death by the crow in Montana. Mhm, that's how those

1610
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:23,880
Speaker 1: three Fellers died. Man, I am pulling out a strong lead.

1611
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 1: So Steve three, everyone else one? I got what by

1612
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson question seven? And again I have faith in

1613
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 1: the room. Categories cooking. The culinary term el dente refers

1614
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:47,840
Speaker 1: to the dumbness of what food item. Ah, come on, man,

1615
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:51,479
Speaker 1: this isn't in the This isn't I know it, but

1616
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 1: this isn't in the How does this have any to

1617
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 1: do with anything we talked about. We have plenty of

1618
01:43:56,360 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 1: recipes in your cookbook, on our website, on your TV

1619
01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:07,040
Speaker 1: shows that I imagine use this food item. The culinary

1620
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:13,600
Speaker 1: term dante refers to the dumbness of what food item.

1621
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 1: I think a better one would have been, like, what

1622
01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:19,760
Speaker 1: does it mean? The definition of it? Everyone had I'm

1623
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm I'm already being hard enough on you, guys. I

1624
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 1: feel like you need some help. Gimme disappointed, reveal your answers.

1625
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 1: Everybody except for Chester as the correct Clay does it

1626
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 1: because he put up two answers. I can't do that.

1627
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 1: The correct answer is pasta dente. Pasta is supposed to

1628
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:50,400
Speaker 1: be firm to the bite. According to chef Jesse Griffiths,

1629
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 1: who studied and worked in Italy, all pasta should be

1630
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:57,599
Speaker 1: cooked to al dente, with the only exceptions being baked

1631
01:44:57,640 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 1: dishes like lasagna. Doesn't mean something like to the two

1632
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 1: correct yes. I also would have accepted rice. Some people

1633
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 1: use it for rice, but more commonly it would be pasta.

1634
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 1: When we come out with the game, let's not put

1635
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:20,800
Speaker 1: that one in there because it was too easy. We're

1636
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 1: gonna develop a board game. I'm in question eight. The

1637
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 1: category is hunting, and this is an audio question. I'm

1638
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 1: going to play for you a calling sequence and you

1639
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:40,200
Speaker 1: need to identify what game bird it's from. M hmm.

1640
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 1: Everybody ready, very excited. Here we go. What game bird

1641
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:05,400
Speaker 1: is the noise from? Mm hmm. See, Steve came up

1642
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,799
Speaker 1: with an answer fairly fast. I don't like my answer.

1643
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 1: The rest of the room not so much. Okay, everybody

1644
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 1: feel your answer. The correct answer is teal, which nobody

1645
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 1: got correct green winged teal. Although most hunters consider tealed

1646
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:32,160
Speaker 1: to be one of the fastest ducks, they're actually some

1647
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:35,599
Speaker 1: of the slowest, with flight speeds of thirty miles per hour.

1648
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 1: The fastest duck ever recorded was a red breasted merganser

1649
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:42,000
Speaker 1: traveling at one hundred miles per hour while being pursued

1650
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 1: by an airplane. You know, I think why teals seem

1651
01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 1: so fast as they fly low and erratically. The erratic

1652
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 1: thing is definitely, but any duck any duck hunter you'd

1653
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 1: asked me, like, what's fastest bird? I'm convinced they would

1654
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 1: say teal because they I mean, they kind of like

1655
01:46:56,520 --> 01:47:00,680
Speaker 1: they're so low. They often come in unannounced and so

1656
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 1: you don't see them until they're like going buy your

1657
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 1: face and they're dodging and just give Ocean ducks too

1658
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:14,599
Speaker 1: are known to be pretty fast. Answer hundred miles an hour.

1659
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:17,760
Speaker 1: And that stat comes from ducks unlimited. So if you've

1660
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:20,479
Speaker 1: got a problem, Clay, take it up with them. We

1661
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:22,559
Speaker 1: are on the question nine, Phil, can you give us

1662
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 1: a scoreboard update with two questions left? Yes, In third

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01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 1: place with one point, we have Chester the investor in

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01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 1: sect type. For second place, we have Karin, Janice and

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01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 1: Clay with two and in first place it's Steve with four.

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01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:44,040
Speaker 1: You say last for third? I think right? The third

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01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 1: is last. Trying to be nice, He's like you two questions,

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01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:55,320
Speaker 1: two questions left winning a bronze medal. We need, uh,

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01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:57,759
Speaker 1: we need Steve to get them wrong and other folks

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01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:02,400
Speaker 1: to get them right. Question nine. The categories conservation because

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01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a lab via category. What year did

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01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:13,559
Speaker 1: President Richard Nixon signed the Endangered Species Act? Oh? Steve

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01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:18,680
Speaker 1: got it, and it is in the name of the act. Oftentimes,

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01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:20,680
Speaker 1: if someone was talking about this, they would say the

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01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 1: Endangered Species Act of I got it down here two years.

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01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:27,680
Speaker 1: I can't decide where I'm gonna go with. If it

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01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 1: helps you all, it was President Richard Nixon, so if

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01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:33,760
Speaker 1: you can do some elimination math about when he may

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01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:37,160
Speaker 1: have been in office, he signed it one of those years.

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01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Dang, it's two digits, okay, because I do

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01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:49,280
Speaker 1: know what, I will not confuse it with like seventeen something.

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01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:55,639
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of educated guesses in the room,

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01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:58,759
Speaker 1: is what I'm what I'm guessing. Al Right, everybody, reveal

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01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 1: your answer. The correct answer that I can't What is

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01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:11,599
Speaker 1: the correct answer which nobody got is nineteen seventy three.

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01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:19,720
Speaker 1: I had seventy four and surrounded. This replaced the Endangered

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01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 1: Species Preservation Act of nineteen sixty six and the Endangered

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01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:27,800
Speaker 1: Species Conservation Act of nineteen sixty nine. It passed in

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01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 1: the House with a vote of three hundred and fifty

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01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 1: five to four, and unanis unanimously passed in the Senate.

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01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 1: That's what I love about that story. And when the

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01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 1: wilderness at got past is how unanimous they were, and

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01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:43,760
Speaker 1: how about how many people said that neither of them

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01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:46,880
Speaker 1: had enough teeth they should have made it even yeah,

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01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 1: tougher when people talk about the fractious nature in the

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01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 1: polarization um of today, and you kind of like, oh no,

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01:49:57,960 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 1: maybe it's probably like always when you look back, it's

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01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:04,120
Speaker 1: some of these things. The past was such widespread support,

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01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 1: you realize that there was a time when you didn't,

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01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:10,880
Speaker 1: when everything wasn't just like split margins, split margins, split margin. Yeah.

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01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 1: And I tried last night, like the Dickens, to find

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01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 1: the four people in the house that voted against it,

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01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 1: just to like get their reasonings for it. I can't

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01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 1: find it on the internet. So if you if you

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01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 1: know something that I don't, I'd love to hear about

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01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 1: what those four folks had in mind when they voted

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01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:30,120
Speaker 1: against it. They're raised from history question ten and Steve

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01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:31,760
Speaker 1: has wrapped it up at this point, but everyone else

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01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 1: can play for silver medal. The category is fish. In

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01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:40,760
Speaker 1: the movie Grumpy Year Old Men, what is the name

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01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:43,719
Speaker 1: of the legendary fish that Max and John try to catch,

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01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:47,439
Speaker 1: which shares its name with a famous baseball pitcher from

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01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 1: the seventies In the movie Grumpy Year Old Men, which

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01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:56,720
Speaker 1: I believe is the sequel to Just Grumpy Old Men.

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01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:01,439
Speaker 1: What is the name of the legendary fish that Max

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01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 1: and John tried to catch? What shares its name with

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01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 1: a famous baseball pitcher from the seventies never seen the

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01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:14,759
Speaker 1: movie Can't Have You? Do you know any baseball pictures

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01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 1: from the seventies? M h, we don't do baseball down here, trying.

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Speaker 1: That's actually not true at all, But damn man, he's

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01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 1: a good question. You know what makes some good questions?

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01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 1: A lot of them feel like you should know. That's

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01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 1: when you know it's a good question. Jest. You're sure

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01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:38,400
Speaker 1: looks like he knows all right? Does everyone have an answer?

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Speaker 1: Reveal your answer? The correct answer, which nobody has is

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Speaker 1: Catfish Hunter. Catfish Hunter. The real person his real name

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01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:54,160
Speaker 1: was James Hunter, but the Oakland A's owner gave him

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01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 1: the Moniker Catfish because he thought the picture needed a

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01:51:57,120 --> 01:52:00,280
Speaker 1: flashy nickname to get the media's attention. And in the

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Speaker 1: movie Grumpy Year Old Man, they actually catch it on

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01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:06,680
Speaker 1: what I think is Max's son's wedding day, and it

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01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:10,800
Speaker 1: makes him late for the wedding. Catfish Hunter and it's

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01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:14,519
Speaker 1: it's a it's a ridiculous fun scene where the flathead

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01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 1: catfish comes out of the water as if it's like

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Speaker 1: a blue whale, right, and like, uh yeah, of course, yep,

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01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 1: of course. Where did I get Walter from? Because that

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Speaker 1: was one of the character's names. No, one of the

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Speaker 1: actors that plays one of the characters names Walter. Oh yeah,

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01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 1: Walter Matho. Damn man, everybody's happy, Steve, where are you

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01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:46,280
Speaker 1: going to donate the hundred dollars for Meat Eater? Well,

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01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:48,799
Speaker 1: I'm going to donate my hundred dollars to the Theodore

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01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 1: Roosevelt Conservation Partnership. They're on a two oh sweep for

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01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:57,840
Speaker 1: this game. There you go. Thanks, better work up some more.

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01:52:58,040 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 1: Thank you, oh real quick too. If you have a

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01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:02,760
Speaker 1: good question you think we ought to include, um, you

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01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 1: gotta send it over to Spencer at So here's the address.

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01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 1: You send your thing too, Trivia at the Meat Eater

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01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:14,519
Speaker 1: dot com. And if it, uh, you know, if it

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01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 1: makes the cut, you'll hear us give it on this show.

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Speaker 1: See you guys soon.