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<v Speaker 1>Hey rain Drops.

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<v Speaker 2>On today's episode Reality for the King, we have a

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<v Speaker 2>double hitter.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the stories.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel horrible for even talking about it because she's

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<v Speaker 2>a friend of mine, but I know her so well

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<v Speaker 2>that she understands that we're all just.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing our job.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have an update in regards to Salt Lake

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<v Speaker 2>City that may surprise you. But first, please welcome back

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<v Speaker 2>my guest that caused so much controversy with his take that,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to come back, belove it. Give it up you

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<v Speaker 1>guys for Jock Peterson.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me back like twice in less than

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<v Speaker 3>a month. I feel like I'm killing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're killing it because you are a journalist, hey, Portia,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's so much breaking news going on. It was

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<v Speaker 2>reported on in the Daily Mail, so much so that

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<v Speaker 2>it is literally the talk of the town. And you

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<v Speaker 2>are somebody that's always breaking news and you can offer information.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about my friend Teddy Mellacamp, who recently filed for

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<v Speaker 2>divorce from her husband.

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<v Speaker 1>Edwin, And.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, she's my friend and I want to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>to show some respect to a very delicate situation. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to talk about it. I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>Jock do it because he is a journalist.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a mess, so that is why you hit me up.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, come back on the pod, and I'm like, oh, now,

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<v Speaker 3>the agenda is clear. This feels very housewivesy, This is

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<v Speaker 3>very lucid and the park with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Teddy, Oh look, look you are somebody that has

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<v Speaker 2>that has you know, the information based on the reports

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<v Speaker 2>that we read in the Daily Mail. And listen auto

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<v Speaker 2>to side. One thing about Teddy, who's a friend of mine.

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<v Speaker 2>I gave her the name Teddy Walters because Teddy is

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<v Speaker 2>like a journalist as well, and she does her job.

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<v Speaker 2>So Teddy is not going to take this personally because

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<v Speaker 2>she understands the gig. But I don't have all the information.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing I know that is what she says.

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<v Speaker 2>So Teddy has filed for divorce from her husband, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many allegations and rumors that's out there. Teddy

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<v Speaker 2>did say Jock on her two teas and a pod

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<v Speaker 2>podcast that she's not going to confirm or deny anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I will happily say it all dropped the bomb,

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<v Speaker 3>John says, has been on the phone with me because

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<v Speaker 3>I've been writing hard for Teddy for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>She's never had me on two teas in a pod.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'll sing like a canary and I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, but Jock, you were at the live podcast recently.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I was, and actually I left early. I went

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<v Speaker 3>with my friend Tamra got me in because I'm friends

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<v Speaker 3>with Tamra, and I was going to try and hang

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<v Speaker 3>around because I'm like all the housewives might go for

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<v Speaker 3>like a dinner afterwards, like Tamra would be my inn.

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<v Speaker 3>But then I had my friend with me, and then

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I don't want to be like buzzing around,

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<v Speaker 3>Like can me and my friend like follow you around?

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, girl, let's just go home. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I think we watched the OC reunion or something. But anyway, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this the teddy of it all. So the story is

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<v Speaker 3>interesting because it first well, the streets were talking for

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<v Speaker 3>a while, and then it hit Dumi and that was

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<v Speaker 3>the first time a lot of people heard about it

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<v Speaker 3>because Dumis did it as kind of like a blind

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<v Speaker 3>item or something, and you know, some of the blogs

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<v Speaker 3>started talking about it, but it didn't hit any of

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<v Speaker 3>the mainstream outlets. Because that's the thing that I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if people realize, like the difference between the blogs

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<v Speaker 3>and the dumirs versus like you know, the US weeklies

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<v Speaker 3>and the People's and the daily mails is like being

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<v Speaker 3>an actual media organization, there's a lot of boxes that

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<v Speaker 3>we have to tick before we can write a story.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I know, people think that we can just write

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<v Speaker 3>anything that we want, but we really can't because it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the allegation was that Teddy had an affair

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<v Speaker 3>with her horse trainer. So if that's not true, and

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<v Speaker 3>then a media outlet publishes that and they just go, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>we heard it on Deir, but we don't have any

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<v Speaker 3>receipts to back it up. She can sue for defamation,

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<v Speaker 3>like you need to be able to.

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<v Speaker 1>Like prove it.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was really floating there for like a week,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know that a lot of media outlets behind

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<v Speaker 3>the scenes were like trying to get their receipts together

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<v Speaker 3>so they could break the story. And Daily Mail ended

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<v Speaker 3>up being the first. It wasn't just myself, it was

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<v Speaker 3>actually another reporter that's byliners on the article, James Ushuka.

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<v Speaker 3>He did a lot of the groundwork on that and

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<v Speaker 3>then I helped him out a bit with it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they said that Teddy was having an affair with whole

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<v Speaker 3>horse trainer who is married, and that the affair was

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<v Speaker 3>happening while the wife was and at one point she

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<v Speaker 3>was giving birth to their second child, and Teddy and

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<v Speaker 3>this guy Simon were off together in like Florida while

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<v Speaker 3>she was giving birth in California and.

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<v Speaker 1>Your way, Jock.

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<v Speaker 2>So the allegation is, like, I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>clear this woman is allegedly at the hospital like about

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<v Speaker 2>like like like in labor. And the allegation is that

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<v Speaker 2>the horse trainer, which is her husband, and Teddy were

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, there were like a together. Yes, I think they

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<v Speaker 3>were like a horse competition or something while she was

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<v Speaker 3>giving birth. And then you know, I also heard that

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<v Speaker 3>so she found the wife's name is Carli. She found

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<v Speaker 3>out that Simon and Teddy had hooked up or something

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<v Speaker 3>had happened, and she kind of like let it go

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<v Speaker 3>and was like, all right, it's a one off. And

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<v Speaker 3>then she found out that it was happening again. Now

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<v Speaker 3>something else that I have heard. This is all allegedly,

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<v Speaker 3>So this could be untrue because there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of rumors going on, and even if

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<v Speaker 3>you check, if you check all the different outlets like

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<v Speaker 3>the Daily Mail, Entertainment Tonight, US Weekly, it's like everyone

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<v Speaker 3>seems to be getting sources from like different places and

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<v Speaker 3>different information and then being in the you know, in

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<v Speaker 3>the media industry, like I hear things that haven't been

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<v Speaker 3>reported yet. So this is all completely allegedly, may not

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<v Speaker 3>be true. But I heard that Simon and Carly actually

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<v Speaker 3>had an open marriage, and that's why the first time

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<v Speaker 3>around she didn't really care allegedly allegedly may not be true.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the second time that it happened, she felt

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<v Speaker 3>like there was like an emotional component to it, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's why she was like, enough is enough, because it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, I let it go the first time because

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<v Speaker 3>I thought this was just a physical thing, and now

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<v Speaker 3>there seems to be some emotional component to your affair,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's why she was done with that. There's also

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<v Speaker 3>conflicting stuff about Edward cheating on Teddy. First, so I

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<v Speaker 3>believe that he did cheat on her, like in maybe

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<v Speaker 3>twenty fifteen or sixteen, and I think she has confirmed that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I think she's

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<v Speaker 3>confirmed that and they worked through it. And then I've

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<v Speaker 3>heard mixed things about the woman that he cheated on

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<v Speaker 3>Teddy with. I've heard that it was just someone that

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<v Speaker 3>Teddy barely knew, and then I've also heard that it

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<v Speaker 3>was like one of Teddy's closest friends and it was

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<v Speaker 3>like an affair that went on for a year. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure there, and then I've also heard conflicting things.

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<v Speaker 3>Is why this is also confusing. That I've heard that

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<v Speaker 3>Edwin had cheated allegedly potentially had cheated on Teddy again.

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<v Speaker 3>But then also people are saying that, no, he cheated

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<v Speaker 3>that one time and then it never happened again and

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<v Speaker 3>he straightened up. So it's a lot. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>going on, and there's a lot of information out there,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's hard to know exactly what's true and what

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<v Speaker 3>isn't right now.

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<v Speaker 2>No, there's a lot going on right there, because, like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, the most recent information that came out weds

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<v Speaker 2>the sources, right, So, like you intimated, a source said that,

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<v Speaker 2>well Eddie, well let's say Edwin, because Eddie is Tamera's husband,

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<v Speaker 2>and the ads have a podcast underneath the tow Teason,

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<v Speaker 2>a pod banner, which we'll get to that in a second,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's also very like interesting about the fate of

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<v Speaker 2>that particular podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So recently there was an article.

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<v Speaker 2>That came out and I believe, and I could be wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>but I believe it was Bryce Sanders with Entertainment Tonight

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<v Speaker 2>who said that sources told him that Edwin had the

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<v Speaker 2>affair first, but they yes, it was years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And that Teddy forgave him.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was another source who said that isn't true.

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<v Speaker 2>That well, what isn't true is that that was the

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<v Speaker 2>reason why Teddy felt the need to have an affair.

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<v Speaker 1>Allegedly with this horse train.

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<v Speaker 2>And what people are saying, Jock is the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>they're alleging that the source is Teddy's camp, that it

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<v Speaker 2>appears to be people in Teddy's camp trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>Edwin the bad guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but I think that's really unfair to Teddy because

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<v Speaker 3>when the story broke first on De MOI, then on

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<v Speaker 3>Daily Mail, then on TMZ and you know followed, everything

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<v Speaker 3>was negative towards Teddy. It was like Edwin's done nothing wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Teddy had an affair with the married horse trainer and

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<v Speaker 3>destroyed her marriage and destroyed another marriage, and no one's going, well,

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<v Speaker 3>has that come from Edwin's camp? Is that slanted? But

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<v Speaker 3>then as soon as something comes out in defensive Teddy,

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<v Speaker 3>people are just so quick to be like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's Teddy's people putting this out. It's like there's often

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<v Speaker 3>two sides to a story. I don't know where the

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<v Speaker 3>original story came from. I don't know who originally leaked

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<v Speaker 3>it to De Noir. I did hear that apparently was

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<v Speaker 3>word on the street for like months, even before it

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<v Speaker 3>hit Demit because the horse world is like a very

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<v Speaker 3>small community and everyone knows everyone's business, so people had

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<v Speaker 3>been talking. But like, again, I don't know who originated

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<v Speaker 3>the story, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was Edwin.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard, you know, I'm want to be careful what

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<v Speaker 3>I say, but I mean, I've heard that things may

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<v Speaker 3>have come from Edwin, but I don't know that for

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<v Speaker 3>a fact. It's just I think Teddy has told some

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<v Speaker 3>people that possibly, But then it's like Teddy could be lying.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know, like because it's in her interest to

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<v Speaker 3>say that, so we don't know. But I've heard that

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<v Speaker 3>she's told people that Edwin is coming after her and

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<v Speaker 3>that she feels like there's a lot of lies out

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<v Speaker 3>there about her. Her plan, I believe currently is to

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<v Speaker 3>just say nothing and to be quiet. But it's like

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<v Speaker 3>this isn't gonna blow over. I mean, you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>to say something eventually.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>She keeps coming out and saying, well, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 3>anything because you know, my kids are involved, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's like it's already out there. People are already

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<v Speaker 3>talking about it. There's sources from both sides clearly coming

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<v Speaker 3>out to every single media outlet, because every every media

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<v Speaker 3>outlet has their own like exclusive on this, so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>people are talking. So I do think that Teddy should

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<v Speaker 3>come out with her side of the story at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I agree with you, and I would not be

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<v Speaker 2>mad if she comes out with her story on the

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<v Speaker 2>next season of OC.

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<v Speaker 3>Neither would I. And I've been saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like Teddy should get back. Listen and my

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<v Speaker 2>brain drops.

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<v Speaker 1>Know this, Jock.

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<v Speaker 2>I have said for years that Teddy needs to get

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<v Speaker 2>back on television. I think she's fantastic TV. Granted, granted,

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<v Speaker 2>And me and Teddy had this conversation on her podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Her first two seasons were awkward because again, when you're

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<v Speaker 2>literally a normal person and you get on TV and

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<v Speaker 2>you're in this sort of like social experiment, unless you're

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<v Speaker 2>a Hilton or Richard's or Arena or Vanda Pump, you

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<v Speaker 2>really don't or grammar, you know what I mean, You

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<v Speaker 2>really don't know how this world is. So I always

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<v Speaker 2>gave Teddy grace. Who Teddy is today, She's not that

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<v Speaker 2>same woman who started on Beverly Hill's Housewives, so I've

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<v Speaker 2>always fought for her to come back, in addition to

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that she is Kyle Richard's best friend in

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<v Speaker 2>real life, and I think Kyle of all people, need

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<v Speaker 2>a best friend on that show that she really is

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<v Speaker 2>friends with. But Teddy does live in OC. OC is

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<v Speaker 2>having their best season ever. What has worked for OC

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<v Speaker 2>this season obviously was really following the reality of these

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<v Speaker 2>women's lives, and that reality was Yes, John Janssen was

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<v Speaker 2>dating Alexis Belino, only made sense to bring Alexis back

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<v Speaker 2>to have that awkward thing with Shannon, and it worked.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great television.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see something elsewhere is dominating the news,

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<v Speaker 2>and as if you are, I get to watch it unfold.

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<v Speaker 2>So I am advocating for Teddy Joe Mellencamp to be

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<v Speaker 2>featured on the Real Housewives and I will see either

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<v Speaker 2>as a housewife or friend of But we need Tamera

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<v Speaker 2>as well, right to have a real friend on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>So I had the same take on my Patreon Guys,

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to subscribe on popular JP on Patreon,

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<v Speaker 3>but I said the exact same give it a plug.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>I said the same thing because look, I'm a huge

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<v Speaker 3>Alexis Billina fan, and I would if I could pick

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<v Speaker 3>if she.

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<v Speaker 1>I love her to I do not to cut you

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<v Speaker 1>off from now.

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<v Speaker 3>I love her, I Dola, And by the way, I

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<v Speaker 3>think you and I one of the ways that we

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<v Speaker 3>bonded originally is because we were both Teddy Bears on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 3>because we both saw and when Teddy came for Lisa

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<v Speaker 3>vander Pump, I was like, oh my god. Yes, So

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<v Speaker 3>I was a big Teddy fan for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>So I agree she's really good television, and she should

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<v Speaker 3>be on The Traders as well, because she'd be really

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<v Speaker 3>good on that because she likes to, you know, get

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<v Speaker 3>to the bottom of things. There's a lot of shows

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<v Speaker 3>should be good on. Anyway, getting sidetracked, I love Alexis

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<v Speaker 3>Billino and I want her back, but I feel like,

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<v Speaker 3>and we don't know yet. I've heard conflicting things. We

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if she will be back on the show

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<v Speaker 3>or not. I'm leaning that she might not be just

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<v Speaker 3>because one Shannon won't film with her, and two I

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<v Speaker 3>think that producers are going to be wary of like

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<v Speaker 3>repeating the same storyline again. And I think because there

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't any resolution between the two camps. It's like, how

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<v Speaker 3>do you have Alexis back without it just being And

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<v Speaker 3>they learned their lesson with Scandalval where it was like

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<v Speaker 3>people kind of turned on vander pumt rules when they

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<v Speaker 3>did two seasons of Scandabal instead of just one. So

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think Alexis will be back, and I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of think, all right, well, in the friend role, why

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<v Speaker 3>not swap out Alexis for Teddy? And there you go,

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<v Speaker 3>and look, Teddy is no shade Teddy. But people find

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<v Speaker 3>Teddy very annoying, very unlikable, and they felt the same

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<v Speaker 3>about Alexis. And what's kind of good about Teddy is

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<v Speaker 3>because she is uptight and she is kind of annoying.

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<v Speaker 3>It robs people the wrong way and then it organically

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<v Speaker 3>creates conflict, so there would just be natural drama arising.

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<v Speaker 3>But then Teddy also has these real friendships. She's definitely

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<v Speaker 3>Teddy has to be friends with more than just Tamra

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<v Speaker 3>on there. I'm sure she knows a few of them

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<v Speaker 3>and is friendly with them. And I also was thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't know, but I was wondering if maybe

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<v Speaker 3>the reason that Teddy is holding out on her side

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<v Speaker 3>and not speaking at is because she is wanting to

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<v Speaker 3>get that phone call from you know, Andy Cole on

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<v Speaker 3>r alex Baskin about Hey, let's get you back on

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<v Speaker 3>Beverly Hills or OC and then you can tell your

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<v Speaker 3>story there. And I'm wondering if strategically Teddy's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to say anything until you guys put me

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<v Speaker 3>back on TV. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe she's ding ding ding Listen. I agree with you,

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<v Speaker 2>ding ding ding any ding, and listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this too, Jock.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the many reasons why I wanted to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure we talk about it is because I'm advocating.

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<v Speaker 1>For that to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And the more this story's out there, the better our chances.

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<v Speaker 2>Because right before Alexis, Belina was officially cast as a

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<v Speaker 2>friend of to the show. I use this podcast to

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<v Speaker 2>stay to the world, and obviously a lot of my

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<v Speaker 2>listeners are Bravo fans and some employees, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Bravo, I love you, So I want to listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I really really really really really really want Teddy to

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<v Speaker 2>be on OC, and I agree with you. Teddy is

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<v Speaker 2>savvy and she's smart, and one thing about Teddy that

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<v Speaker 2>I think we all realize she now understands the assignment

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<v Speaker 2>because even her little parents on O see this season

0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:03.960
<v Speaker 2>where she was a part of that Traders, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>game hosting it like she was sharp as snarky through

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<v Speaker 2>shade at VICKI like, I love her. I love her

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<v Speaker 2>in real life and I love her on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would rather see this story on the fold.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was going to bring me next. Jock.

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<v Speaker 2>Two the two Eds Eddie which is Tamra's husband, and Edwin,

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<v Speaker 2>which is now Teddy's estranged husband.

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<v Speaker 1>They're friends.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a podcast underneath the two teas and a

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<v Speaker 2>pop banner called the Eds. So think about it, rain Drops, Jock,

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<v Speaker 2>think about it. You get to see a scene with

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<v Speaker 2>the two Eds talking about this and intercut a scene

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<v Speaker 2>with Tamra and Teddy talking about this as well. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what I want to see and listen, I love Alexis

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<v Speaker 2>Belino and I and then Alexis brought so much magic

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<v Speaker 2>to this season.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of elevating the story for the next season.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is Carlos King's take, and Jock, you go next.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to see another season of Shannon versus

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<v Speaker 2>Alexis or Shannon versus Tamra. I don't want to see

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<v Speaker 2>that on my TV screen. I'm over it. What I

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<v Speaker 2>want to see is Teddy going through this Tamra helping her.

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<v Speaker 2>How the other ladies feel about it, because the joke is, oh, really, Teddy,

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<v Speaker 2>your accountability coach? Are you taking countability? And bring VICKI

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<v Speaker 2>back to read her?

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, I just want to say one thing with Alexis.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to repeat of that, but I do

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<v Speaker 3>love Alexis and I think she's so good that I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be mad if they I mean, I know they're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to get rid of Shannon, so I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>even say it, but I would be happy if they

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<v Speaker 3>got rid of Shannon and just made Alexis full time,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I would rather Alexis than Shannon. But anyway, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>if we had to get rid of a lex So

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<v Speaker 3>and by the way, if you guys get rid of Alexis, bravo.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're listening, please throw her a bone and put

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<v Speaker 3>her on like how civillains or traders or whatever like

0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:13.359
<v Speaker 3>give her some work because she really made that season

0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:16.120
<v Speaker 3>pop for you. Guys and she got nothing in return,

0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:19.040
<v Speaker 3>and she just kind of deserves her flowers and then

0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:21.720
<v Speaker 3>she deserves to come back to Ocie again later once

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<v Speaker 3>this has all come down, because she's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I agree with one hundred percent what you said. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I love Alexis and I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think bring Teddy in because Shannon has been cheated

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<v Speaker 3>on before, so she'll feel strongly about what Teddy did,

0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:39.040
<v Speaker 3>like and Ginea's been cheated on too, Like these women

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<v Speaker 3>have been in situations where they've had a partner cheat

0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:48.040
<v Speaker 3>on them, So how are they going to feel about

0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Teddy's situation? And then, because you know Teddy the detective,

0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:53.879
<v Speaker 3>I want her to get to the bottom of Katie

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<v Speaker 3>the crook. I love Katie on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>I do not trust Katie one fucking bit, not one bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she is such a crooked little schemer. I

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<v Speaker 3>think she's in the DMS of all the blogs. I

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<v Speaker 3>think she's plowing and planning. I think she leaked those

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<v Speaker 3>Did you see the whole thing with the text messages

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<v Speaker 3>about Emily and the nanny and stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell my rain jobs all about that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's such a weird, convoluted story. I'm like, okay. So

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<v Speaker 3>on the show, Katie's eldest daughter baby sat Emily's young boys,

0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:43.240
<v Speaker 3>and then the daughter came back and she said, oh,

0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Emily's boys were saying, we hate Heather Debro, She's mean

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<v Speaker 3>to our mummy. And then Tamra heard that, and then

0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:52.280
<v Speaker 3>she took her back to Emily, and Emily was like,

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<v Speaker 3>my boys would never say that. They don't even know

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<v Speaker 3>who Heather Debro is. And now you're just trying to

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<v Speaker 3>You're making this up to try and cause is choose

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<v Speaker 3>between myself and Heather Debro. And then they did do

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<v Speaker 3>a weird flashback where they showed Katie at home and

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<v Speaker 3>Katie's young son, who was definitely under ten, was like,

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<v Speaker 3>he was talking shit about Heather Debro. So it looked

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<v Speaker 3>like Katie had like made it up that she was

0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:19.640
<v Speaker 3>accusing Emily's kids of talking about about Heather when really

0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:22.919
<v Speaker 3>it's like her kid that was But then one of

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<v Speaker 3>the Housewives blogs got these text messages, and the text

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<v Speaker 3>messages were like, I used to be Emily Simpson's nanny

0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:35.719
<v Speaker 3>and Emily always talked about housewives in front of the boys,

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<v Speaker 3>and the boys didn't like Heather debro So I one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred percent believe Katie was telling the truth. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>how did this blog get these text messages?

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<v Speaker 2>They've random text from a former nanny.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, girl, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>And this blog was saying we've seen a photo of

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<v Speaker 3>the nanny with Emily to verify the identity, but we're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to post it. And then I've heard that

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<v Speaker 3>behind the scenes, Katie's saying I had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 3>with this. I didn't give the text to this blogger,

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, Katie, girl, you definitely did. I just

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<v Speaker 3>do not trust Katie at all. With that said, I

0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:11.399
<v Speaker 3>think she's great on the show, and she reminds me

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<v Speaker 3>actually a little bit of Teddy. Katie to me is

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a Teddy two point zh wait.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Teddy's a crook though.

0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:21.359
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think Teddy's a crook. But I think

0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:24.719
<v Speaker 3>that they're both kind of there's something that's kind of

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:27.679
<v Speaker 3>like uptight and serious about both of them, you know,

0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 3>like and kind of very straightforward, and they get a

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 3>bit flustered when they go up against Yeah, and I

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 3>don't know there's something similar there, but I want to

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<v Speaker 3>see Teddy. I want to see Teddy hold Katie accountable

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<v Speaker 3>for whatever Katie's been doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, okay, wait a second, Wait a second, i'dn't

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<v Speaker 2>think okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want me to produce the next season evolution?

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<v Speaker 3>Hit me up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so, all the producers who produce I'll see your listening,

0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:03.080
<v Speaker 2>please called Jock Peterson. He's local in Los Angeles, so

0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to like pay for his airfare.

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 3>Keep me up, do you know Luke?

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Yes, he's one of my best friends. I love love. Hey, look,

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<v Speaker 1>hey girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Child, we are just getting started. This is reality with

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<v Speaker 2>the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into

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<v Speaker 2>the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Jock, I never thought about this, the idea of Kate.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's so funny. I'm gonna I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>there with you. Katie and Teddy are ice queen?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Right? So what?

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, Jock, you're really good at this? What

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:56.639
<v Speaker 2>what we haven't really seen? I don't think ever in

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:59.479
<v Speaker 2>the history of housewives, if I'm really thinking about it,

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:03.920
<v Speaker 2>you haven't seen a showdown between two ice queens who

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:06.880
<v Speaker 2>don't yell. Do you know what I mean, like, who

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 2>don't yell after a certain octave, Like there's sort of

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 2>like very monotone but icy, but but but very listen,

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 2>very direct to shady and can read you but in

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 2>a very subtle direct way. I have never seen that

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 2>on Housewives, Have you No?

0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:29.360
<v Speaker 3>And I just think that OC has such an interesting

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:31.360
<v Speaker 3>dynamic now, Like I know that you're a huge Jen

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 3>fan and sol my, I think Jen has had one

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:36.359
<v Speaker 3>of the greatest sophomore seasons of all time. Like it's

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:40.160
<v Speaker 3>it's so like by the time, you know, and look,

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm friends with Tamra and I'm always right or die

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:46.160
<v Speaker 3>for Tamra, so you know, it's my girl, but.

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 1>She's my friend in real life. I love her. Yeah.

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Look, I even texted Tamorra after I watched part two

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 3>of the reunion. I was like, sorry, girl, and Jen

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 3>is killing this, Like.

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 1>And what does she say back to you? Are you

0:25:57.520 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>allowed to say.

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:02.440
<v Speaker 3>Tamra ignore that Jen is good television?

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Thank you? Okay.

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to say okay, okay, so okay. The

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 2>only thing I will say too is I have also spoken.

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:12.359
<v Speaker 1>To Tamara about my love for Jen.

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:16.200
<v Speaker 2>How great Jen is and Jock is one thousand percent correct.

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:19.360
<v Speaker 2>I want you ought to know Tamra doesn't hate Jen.

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Tamara is not a gen hater. She under listen. Tamar

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:29.399
<v Speaker 2>is a legend who started the sort of what's what

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:31.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for, Jock, because Tamar's the first house.

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 3>She turned housewives into survivor. She created the modern formula

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 3>of housewives because it wasn't about drama before Tamara got

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 3>on the show.

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:43.440
<v Speaker 2>And you better preach, So all of you guys who

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:47.639
<v Speaker 2>hate Tamara, let's have a real conversation. Tamar Judge is

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:52.880
<v Speaker 2>the first housewife to ever go there and brought drama

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:55.880
<v Speaker 2>to the franchise because before Tamara it.

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Was really about like, oh, we are neighbors and living.

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:02.119
<v Speaker 2>In the same gated commune and we've talked about our kids.

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Now Tamar said hold on to your Daddy's Gretchen's here,

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:10.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, like really really brought that. And every housewife

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 2>till today has used that formula. But I saw that

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 2>to say, I want the roll to know this too.

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Tamra understands what Jen has brought to the show and

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 2>doesn't hate it.

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'll leave it at that.

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and they have their own and look, I do

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 3>think that I think Tamara is going to be vindicated

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 3>in the end. She often is because Tamara has a

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 3>good's Tama has a great bullshit detector. And as much

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.399
<v Speaker 3>as I adore Jen, you know something in the middle

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 3>gain clean, Like it's a little shady out there, and

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 3>I think that Tamra will be vindicated. But I didn't

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:51.159
<v Speaker 3>even know where I was going with this, but I

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 3>just want to say, Jen read Tamra Fulfilled at the

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 3>reunion and it was amazing. Sorry, Tamra, and I kind

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 3>of couldn't.

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, no, oh Shae, can you tell the audience well,

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I was your favorite part about the read, like, can

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 2>you like and your gen boys give the read the of.

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 1>The party reader.

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember it verbatim, but it was just like,

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 3>it's really hard to check Tamra. And one thing is

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.479
<v Speaker 3>as well. And I've always said this, like a lot

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 3>of the girls, like Emily and Gina, who I'm big

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 3>fans of, and I've been fans of them since they

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 3>joined the show. I was never a hater of Gina

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 3>and Emily's ever, and they've had times where they've like

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 3>tussled with Tamra and they always back down, And I

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 3>was always saying to myself, like girls like follow through

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:35.360
<v Speaker 3>with it. Tamra's a big girl, she's tough, she can

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:37.679
<v Speaker 3>take it, go toe to toe with her. She's not

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Lisa vander Palmp like where she's going to be pulling

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 3>all of this shit like she spa with her and

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 3>no one sees it through And Jen and I said,

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 3>quiet sweet, Jen was just like, girl, I am gonna

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 3>read you up and down and I don't give a

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 3>fuck and I'm not scared of you. And look, it's

0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 3>worked out great. It's been an amazing season. Hammer is

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 3>more relevant than ever Jen is, you know, having the

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 3>show is popping. It's like everyone's favorite season right now.

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 3>It will probably be the best Housewive season of the year.

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it's just it's so good. It's just such

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 3>a good cast. So throw Teddy in there instead of Alexis,

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 3>and you know, there's a.

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Season, and there's a season, and I'll end with this.

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Teddy has said that please give her some time while

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 2>she's dealing with this and for her children. So our

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.479
<v Speaker 2>thoughts in press grow out to Teddy Mellencamp. Jack and

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 2>I are whose fans of Teddy. We're Teddy Bears. And

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 2>we really want her back on TV, and we both

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 2>think the best thing to do, especially because Housewives of

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Beverly Hills is airing this week, so it only makes

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 2>sense that she goes back to OC because OC allegedly

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 2>is picking up cameras really, really soon, and you need to.

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Capitalize on this.

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, speaking of capitalizing, I have been capitalized on my

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 2>rain drops, who has forced me to watch this season

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 2>of Salt Lake City because I wasn't going to give

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 2>it a chance because I'm a huge Monica fan and

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Monica listen, I'll say it that I'll move on. Monica

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 2>turned that show out last season, and I was sad

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 2>to see her number turn. But I did watch the

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 2>premiere episode and I told my rain drops that Broadwind

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 2>was fantastic, and I saw that in the first episode.

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't like X, Y and Z, but

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 2>that Broadwind watch off of her. So recently they all

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.719
<v Speaker 2>said to watch it. I spent the weekend binging, and

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 2>we have to talk about Salt Lake City and my adoration,

0:30:51.840 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 2>obsession and love for Broadway. I am obsessed, and we

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 2>have to talk about what she is bringing to this

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 2>season because it's campy and the best way.

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Passablele it's campy, but she's also dominating in a way

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 3>where it's like the first cast trip and she's calling

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 3>the shots of like Heather, and Heather's like the like

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.479
<v Speaker 3>Heather is like the you know, the Kyle or like

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 3>the force multiplier really of the show, and Bro's like, Heather,

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 3>you're not coming on the trip and Lisa, if you

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 3>don't get it together, you're going home too, bitch like,

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 3>and she's getting away with it, which is wild, by

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 3>the way, just backtracking one second to Monica, I was

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 3>really glad. I mean, I love Monica and that season

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 3>was phenomenal, but it just would have been too much

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 3>with Monica coming back and she's just two. She's two

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 3>in the blogs, she's too involved in all that. Monica

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 3>needs a pause, Like we can bring Monica back at

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 3>a time that's appropriate. But I thought they made the

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 3>right decision and watching the season, they absolutely did, and

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 3>we have like a whole fresh thing. We don't have

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 3>to rehash another season of Monica, which if they brought

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 3>Monica back like it honestly would have been repetitive. And

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 3>that's what will happen probably if they bring Alexis back,

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 3>No shade, alexis so roman is like you know, the

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 3>premiere episode, they had this scene where she went to

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 3>like get coffee with Lisa Balow and she was wearing

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 3>like this Vinyl leopard thing, which when I first when

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 3>I saw that, I was like, Oh, you're on the

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 3>wrong show. This is not selling Sunset. You're way too

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 3>thirsty and annoying. And I was ready to write her off.

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 3>But by episode two, three four, I'm like, she is

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 3>fucking incredible, and she has that like Durnda Medley Margaret

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 3>Joseph's kind of thing where it's like you came onto

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 3>the show late, but you feel like an og instantly,

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 3>Like she just like she just feels like she's been

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 3>there from the start, you know what I mean?

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Good point, No, you know, I'm really thinking about it,

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 2>especially Durenda Durrenda came on New York City and immediately.

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Felt like an OG. So I understand the correlation. Yeah.

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 3>And I was looking up because I'm just curious about

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Bromwin and I was looking her up today and I

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 3>went on this subreddit called Utah Influencer Drama and they

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 3>it's just a thing where they're obsessed with Utah influences,

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 3>and she had been on that subreddit for a while,

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 3>so she was known around Utah as just this fabulous

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 3>fashion Easta because I kind of thought, honestly, at first,

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 3>when I saw it the season, I thought, she's just

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 3>dressing up like this for the show, Like this is

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 3>just her being contrived for television, wearing these wacky outfits.

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 3>But she really had been dressing like that and doing

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 3>that for years. And I also spoke to someone that

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 3>has a close friend of hers, and they said, that

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 3>is Bronwin. That is who she is. She dresses like that.

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 3>She's fabulous. She was known around Utah for just throwing

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 3>all these fun parties and being in the fashion world,

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 3>and was probably only a matter of time before she

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 3>ended up on the show.

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 2>And she's just amazing, Like she's so good, she's so fantastic.

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 2>So let's get right into it, because this most recent episode,

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 2>let us talk about the trip I'm un deserves. We

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 2>talked about in a global aspect of this recap, and

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 2>for me, this is like a recap of the episode

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:12.279
<v Speaker 2>more so like does me acknowledging to the audience that

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I am now on the train of Salt Lake City

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:18.280
<v Speaker 2>like I'm on it and I'm here for the ride.

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:21.320
<v Speaker 2>When made me fall in love with her was two things.

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 2>When she wore the wacky costume and pick up her

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 2>husband and at the airport, like it's so funny and

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:32.799
<v Speaker 2>silly that listen. I like a housewife who does not

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 2>take herself so seriously, and.

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>The fact that she could have fun with it, I

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 1>thought was great.

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 2>But also her comfortability level at checking people. So even

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 2>when Heather went over her house, all that poop was

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 2>on the floor and listen, Heather, by the way, heathernless gorgeous,

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Like whatever you're doing, girl, keep doing it. You look

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 2>at me eaze, but you're right like Heather to me

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:03.839
<v Speaker 2>was positioned to be the face of the show, and

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 2>I personally never saw that in terms of the reasoning

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 2>behind it, but I think it was shoved on our

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:13.800
<v Speaker 2>throats that it is what it is, that it was

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Heather Show. And I like to argue that the other

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 2>person I love and this will be unpopular, like Jock's podcast,

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 2>the name of it not the reception of the name

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 2>of It's.

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 1>On Patreon subscribe to.

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 2>It was unpopular for some people. And you don't give

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 2>a shit because I don't believe social media is the.

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Real world anyway. But I digress. I'm obsessed with Lisa Barlow.

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 2>I am in love with a woman who has no

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 2>sense of reality, and I love it. I don't like

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:52.280
<v Speaker 2>people who play to the cameras. I don't like people

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 2>who play to the audience who want to see them

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.759
<v Speaker 2>just be perfect. I love the fact that she complained

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 2>about sitting in seventeen C. That's what I want from

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 2>a housewife. I want ridiculousness. I want over the top.

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 2>I want somebody who doesn't care that half the audience

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 2>would love.

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 1>To just be on a plane, because that's who she is.

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.799
<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to say this, and I know it's

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 2>not popular, and I don't give a shit. I love

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 2>Lisa Barlow, and to me, Lisa Barlow is the first

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:29.400
<v Speaker 2>multiplier of the show.

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, John, Okay, Look, I disagree with I think

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 3>Heather is definitely the false multiplier and I'm a huge

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:38.319
<v Speaker 3>fan of Heather's but I do think that it's like

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:41.879
<v Speaker 3>neck and neck, and I really think that it's kind

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 3>of like I think Heather and Lisa to me, like

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Speaker 3>the Karen and Giselle of like Salt Lake City, like

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:49.799
<v Speaker 3>it's all the Kyle and Lisa Vanda pomp, all the

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, Like it's really.

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:54.919
<v Speaker 1>Like those and Kim and Nini back in the home like.

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:57.839
<v Speaker 3>It's and they sort of That's why they have ups

0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 3>and downs in their relationship because they and one thing

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 3>I will say about Lisa Barlow. Love her, but I

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 3>think she is She's definitely like you know, delusional and

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 3>not self aware and stuff. But I also think she's

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:15.879
<v Speaker 3>way more calculated than it comes across. Like I do

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 3>think she's rehearsing lines to say on the show.

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Agreed, That's why I could not get into the premiere episode.

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:24.879
<v Speaker 2>And again, Lisa, I love you, but I'm also gonna

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 2>read you in the best way possible and that means

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 2>the kindest.

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Lisa Barlow's behavior or.

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Should I say performance in the season premiere is where

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 2>it turns me off because I'm like, Lisa Barlow is

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 2>too conscious of her image to behave that way at

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.760
<v Speaker 2>a party that is branded by her her liquor brand.

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:45.239
<v Speaker 2>So I thought it was rehearsing all that shit when

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:46.760
<v Speaker 2>she threw When she threw.

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:47.839
<v Speaker 1>The glass was really bad.

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.919
<v Speaker 3>It was like girl, like, I mean, I look, I'm sure,

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 3>production will like, all right, we lost Monica, you girls

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:57.239
<v Speaker 3>better fucking bring it because we got rid of, you know,

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 3>the most dramatic person ever, so don't fuck around. So

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 3>I get why they felt the pressure to do it,

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 3>but it was like, yes, it was ridiculous. So I

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 3>think that. I think even like she's kind of like Ramona.

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Like I talked to one of the New York Housewives.

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 3>I won't say who, but she was like, yeah, Ramona's

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.320
<v Speaker 3>not a dummy like Ramone, even though people think like

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Ramona is just so like has no self awareness and

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 3>is completely in her own world, which is like true,

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 3>but it's like you don't last like that long on

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 3>a reality TV show without kind of knowing how to

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 3>play the game. Like even Ramona understands the assignment, knows

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:34.880
<v Speaker 3>like we're making a television show and I'm going to

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.880
<v Speaker 3>do things for TV. So Lisa Bolo is definitely like that.

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:42.359
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I think the whole cast is bringing it.

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:46.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Mary is fucking sensational on this season.

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:49.760
<v Speaker 1>So sensational, love love love love Mary.

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 3>It's it's mind blowing. I can't get over it. From

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.400
<v Speaker 3>the Mary that was originally on like those early seasons

0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:59.360
<v Speaker 3>of Salt Lake, where she seemed like too weird to

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 3>even be on Bravo. It was like, this is not

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Bravo's brand, Like why is this person here? Like she

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 3>should be one of the like the weirdos on like

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 3>ninety Day Fiance or something like this isn't working. You're

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:17.840
<v Speaker 3>like toxic and insane. And now it's like she's like

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 3>a human being and she's like fully fleshed out and

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 3>she has like she has really great reads, like when

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 3>she reads Heather, I love it. And she really seems

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:29.399
<v Speaker 3>to be able to cut through the bs. And then

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 3>we're seeing we're seeing this vulnerable side of her with

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 3>her son and her being a mom, and we're seeing

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 3>her friendship with Angie. And when I heard that her

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:39.359
<v Speaker 3>and Angie had become friends, originally I'm like, this has

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 3>to be the thirstiest, fakest friendship like ever because he's,

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:45.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, Angie's just desperate to who I love Angie

0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:47.400
<v Speaker 3>by the way, So this isn't shade to Angie. But

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, this feels very calful. Yeah, I was like,

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 3>this feels calculate. But then when I'm watching their friendship together,

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:53.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, I get it. They seem like they

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 3>actually are friends. So yeah, it's really a phenomenal season.

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:02.560
<v Speaker 3>And there's something very different about Salt Lake City to

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 3>the other shows, Like there's just something a little bit

0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 3>like weird, a little bit like crazy. This is kind

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 3>of like it has a bit of a screw loose,

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 3>and I just love it. It's so good.

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, listen, I am now learning to embrace

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 2>the campiness of the show. And so I will say this,

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Each Real Housewives franchise should feel different. Every each one

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 2>should feel like there's something different, whether that's through the

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:34.919
<v Speaker 2>cast or through the editing of the show. So they

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:39.720
<v Speaker 2>definitely play up the camp on Salt Lake City. And

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 2>after watching four consecutive episodes, I'm not as distracted as

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I was before, you know, when they used to overplay it.

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I now get that that's at staple, So whatever.

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Fine.

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.280
<v Speaker 2>What is fascinating, though, is the dynamic of the cast,

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 2>and you're absolutely it does a bron win bringing fresh

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:04.879
<v Speaker 2>story to this season. And I think that's the reason

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 2>why a lot of people are like, Okay, we like it,

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Like like we were not getting the same old, same

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 2>o that we could have gotten last season, but we

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:19.400
<v Speaker 2>are getting something fresh and to fill Monica's shoes is

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.840
<v Speaker 2>big shoes to Phil, and I like the fact that

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 2>bron isn't trying to be Monica, She's trying to be herself,

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 2>and she is being herself so much so that we

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 2>got to talk about her husband because I'm very intrigued

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 2>with your thoughts on exactly their dynamics. So she has

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 2>a husband named Todd, and Todd is super rich, super wealthy,

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 2>like does beyond like majorly wealthy. Right, the way he

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 2>talks to Bronwen is rubbing a lot of people off.

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 1>They feel like he talks down to her.

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:58.360
<v Speaker 2>They feel like Bronwin will get a divorce next season.

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:01.920
<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts on their dynamic because even the

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 2>jokes she made at the dinner table about you know,

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:08.320
<v Speaker 2>the state of their marriage instead, but I was joking.

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's always some truth in a joke. So

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:13.359
<v Speaker 1>what do you think, Jock?

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:16.799
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So there's two things to this. One is that

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:20.319
<v Speaker 3>if you're a younger woman with no money and you're

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 3>with an older, wealthier man, like you sort of have

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 3>to cater to him to a certain extent. Like that's

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:30.479
<v Speaker 3>that's the arrangement, you know what I mean? Like, you're

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:34.320
<v Speaker 3>he's not picking you because you're you have equal power

0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 3>in the relationship and you're wearing the pants and everything.

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:38.680
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like, yes, it is all about him

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:43.239
<v Speaker 3>because he's funding a certain lifestyle for you, and you're

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 3>offering your kind of youth and what you bring and

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:48.320
<v Speaker 3>he has his big wallet. But doesn't mean that relationship

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 3>can't work and have love and have all these things.

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 3>But there's going to be a power imbalance and that

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.919
<v Speaker 3>just comes with those types of relationships. So there's that.

0:42:56.440 --> 0:43:00.040
<v Speaker 3>And then you probably haven't seen this yet, but on

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 3>YouTube they released a preview of next week's episode and

0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 3>it's after the trip and todd sits Bromwan down and

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 3>he's like, you know, bromwhen the way that you were

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 3>behaving on this trip, when you were screaming at Lisa Balow,

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I've never seen that side of you before.

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what has got into you. It was

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:22.600
<v Speaker 3>very unbecoming. I don't like it. I didn't think there

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:24.920
<v Speaker 3>was going to be drama on this trip. And really,

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 3>what I think we have here is like, look, he's

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 3>an old man. He doesn't watch housewives. She wanted to

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:35.320
<v Speaker 3>do the show. She obviously is a flashy, flamboyant person

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 3>who was out living a big life on Instagram, you know,

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 3>enough to get written about on the you know, the

0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 3>reddits of the world. She's doing a show, and now

0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 3>she's she's doing what's expected when you're on a show

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 3>like this, which is fighting with people and being around

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of dramatic people, and it's I think the

0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:57.360
<v Speaker 3>clash is there. I don't think it's that he speaks

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 3>down to her. I think it's just like, you've never

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 3>been like this before, and now here we are with

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:05.840
<v Speaker 3>cameras and now you're screaming next to someone at a

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 3>pool and storming off, and it's like, who are you?

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:15.359
<v Speaker 3>And I'm curious to see where their relationship goes and

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:20.760
<v Speaker 3>how strong the relationship really is, because if I truly

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 3>loved someone and they can provide for me and we

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 3>have a you know, a great No marriage is perfect,

0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 3>but we have a great relationship. Like, I'm not going

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 3>to throw it away to be on television. So if

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 3>she stays on the show and he's against it, they

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:40.359
<v Speaker 3>might get divorced just because she's essentially going I would

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:43.279
<v Speaker 3>rather be on a television show than save my marriage.

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:47.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, that's that's major and you and you brought

0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 2>up something important, which is listen, Bronwyn is obviously a

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:52.280
<v Speaker 2>kept woman.

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:53.799
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't hide it.

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 2>She mentioned one of the things she loves about him

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 2>is his black heart, and even he said, that's the

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:03.000
<v Speaker 2>main reason you love So they're both in on the joke,

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:07.400
<v Speaker 2>like he listen, when you are older, wealthy man and

0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:10.319
<v Speaker 2>you have a beautiful, young wife, you know that the

0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 2>first thing is your wife loves you because of your money.

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 2>And that's not shay, it is what it is, right,

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 2>And the wife understands as well that this man is

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 2>with me because I'm young and pretty and I'm a

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 2>good trophy wife on his arm. So they're both in

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:30.919
<v Speaker 2>on the joke, right. But you're right, this man has

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:34.319
<v Speaker 2>never seen a housewife show. This man is in boardrooms,

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 2>this man is traveling private. This man is probably hanging

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:40.920
<v Speaker 2>out with Elon Musk, do you know what I mean? Like,

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 2>that's how wealthy and accessible he is to that one percent.

0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:48.719
<v Speaker 1>So to see that your wife, Yeah, I like her.

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 1>She's over the top.

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 2>She's a great conversation piece when I have dinner with

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:56.560
<v Speaker 2>my boring friends and their wives, Like she's the star

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 2>of the dinner table conversation and he loves that because

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 2>she likes upper room. What this man had no idea

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 2>was like, wait, what type of show is this? And

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 2>I think, what's happening? I think what's happening today? He's

0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:16.400
<v Speaker 2>watching these episodes at home and he's and he's seeing

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:21.840
<v Speaker 2>her behavior before the trip, and he's right, he's not

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 2>watching how Browin was before the trip. And it's like,

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:28.560
<v Speaker 2>wait a second, this is a type of show that

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 2>you're on. And I'm gonna say this, and I could

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:37.880
<v Speaker 2>be wrong. I think braun Went is going to have

0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 2>to make a choice because a man of Todd's stature

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:46.800
<v Speaker 2>number one and number two, based on what he's showing

0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 2>us in conversations with her, He's not like these other

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 2>husbands jockhed that you and I know watching the show,

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:58.440
<v Speaker 2>who loves the cameras, right, who wants to fame sometimes

0:46:58.440 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 2>more than their wives.

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Right. Todd is not into it for that, And I.

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Think there's a huge possibility that Bronwin may have to

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:09.680
<v Speaker 2>make a choice between the show and her marriage.

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:11.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the only way they're going to work

0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:14.799
<v Speaker 3>it out is if and I think obviously bron Won

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 3>will get asked back on the show because she's phenomenal,

0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 3>and I mean, that's a no brainer. They're going to

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:22.200
<v Speaker 3>have to come to a thing where he's like, look,

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:24.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm not filming. I'll do a Harry Hamlin thing where

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 3>you'll get maybe one scene of me coming out to

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 3>the barbecue and giving you a kiss and bringing out

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 3>the sausages and then going back inside, and that's it.

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 3>And this is like your thing, and you can just

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:38.920
<v Speaker 3>do this without me involved, but do not talk about

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:41.920
<v Speaker 3>our marriage and don't talk about He seems to have

0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:45.400
<v Speaker 3>a problem as well with she's made a storyline about

0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:49.319
<v Speaker 3>I think her daughter not knowing the biological father, and

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:51.839
<v Speaker 3>he's very protective over that, and he doesn't seem to

0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 3>be a fan of that being turned into television fodder.

0:47:57.320 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 3>So they're gonna have to come to an arrangement where

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:01.760
<v Speaker 3>it's like she's allowed to come back, but she doesn't

0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:03.440
<v Speaker 3>show her home life, which of course, is going to

0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 3>put production in a bit of a pickle because they're like, well,

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:10.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, but they're making allowances for fucking Ronie. I mean,

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:13.359
<v Speaker 3>they're making those allowances for Jenna Lyons, who is I'm

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:16.960
<v Speaker 3>so boring and I feel like there's a lot I mean,

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:19.440
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of people on Ronie that are keeping

0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 3>private stuff off there. So if they can do it

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:22.480
<v Speaker 3>for Ronie.

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 2>You don't see any of their husbands and their dynamics.

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 2>It's all about like the girls.

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:29.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yess so, yeah, that's what they're going to have

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:32.080
<v Speaker 3>to do. Or her marriage. She's going to ruin her

0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:34.439
<v Speaker 3>marriage to be on television. It's like, you really got

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 3>to think about is this what you want? Because look,

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:40.600
<v Speaker 3>if you're in a marriage that's not great and you're

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:43.120
<v Speaker 3>still young enough, and you're like, you know what, I

0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:45.480
<v Speaker 3>could do this show for a few years, have fun

0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 3>and get some fame. I know that I'm going to

0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:49.799
<v Speaker 3>get X amount when I get divorced. I'm still young

0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 3>enough to meet someone else. Okay, girl, But if you know,

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:56.400
<v Speaker 3>like you really have had a good marriage with this

0:48:56.480 --> 0:48:58.399
<v Speaker 3>man for a really long time and he's taking care

0:48:58.440 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 3>of you and you love each other, and you have

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:03.480
<v Speaker 3>have this family unit and he's a father figure to

0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:05.600
<v Speaker 3>your child, do you really want to throw that away

0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:07.720
<v Speaker 3>to being on the Real Housewives for a couple of years.

0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:10.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you've already been on for one season and

0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 3>had fun, Like you can take one season and make

0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:17.160
<v Speaker 3>like think of Liam McSweeney how big she was on

0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:19.279
<v Speaker 3>her first season of Rony and then how much she

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 3>was hated on the second Sea. If she had just

0:49:21.160 --> 0:49:24.839
<v Speaker 3>left after the one season, she would like there would

0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:26.480
<v Speaker 3>be a lot of doors open for her, you know,

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:29.480
<v Speaker 3>so you can make and even monic like, you can

0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:31.359
<v Speaker 3>make a lot out of one season if you had

0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:34.840
<v Speaker 3>that a good season, even like Tiffany Moon on Dallas.

0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 3>She was really popular for her one season and she

0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:39.160
<v Speaker 3>got a lot of social media following from it, and

0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:41.839
<v Speaker 3>like you see her at events and she pops up

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:45.359
<v Speaker 3>at things and stuff like Bromin. It's not that big

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:47.160
<v Speaker 3>of a deal to walk away after one year. Now

0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:48.839
<v Speaker 3>as a viewer, I want her to stay, but I'm

0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:52.400
<v Speaker 3>just talking about her personal life. Think about the cost.

0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I think so till because the thing is this,

0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:59.480
<v Speaker 2>The thing is this in order for you to afford

0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:02.279
<v Speaker 2>those are elaborate outfits that I love to see, Like

0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:06.759
<v Speaker 2>the girl is dripped in in wealth, whether it's in

0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 2>her interview looks or in a scene or or pool side,

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:17.200
<v Speaker 2>like she always looks amazing unless you're gonna get half

0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 2>of this man's money. Because what did come out is

0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:22.480
<v Speaker 2>did I get this right? Heat she did not sign

0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:23.000
<v Speaker 2>a print up?

0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Is that correct? Yeah?

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:26.839
<v Speaker 3>They did talk about that. I think she didn't know.

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, so she could.

0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you could, you know, but but but but unless listen,

0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:38.360
<v Speaker 2>unless you're Diana Jenkins.

0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean?

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Like I the reason why I'm not mad at Diana Jenkins.

0:50:42.920 --> 0:50:44.040
<v Speaker 3>Honey, I love Diana.

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:48.759
<v Speaker 1>She said, I thought this will be fun and interesting.

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I brought them Elton John.

0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm I have more money than all these girls combined

0:50:55.760 --> 0:51:00.160
<v Speaker 2>times ten. And what I do respect about her is

0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:03.960
<v Speaker 2>she had a very bad first season. When I say bad,

0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean the audience perception of her. And she walked

0:51:07.160 --> 0:51:10.600
<v Speaker 2>away so much so she didn't show up to the

0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:14.719
<v Speaker 2>re union. Allegedly she had COVID. But I love the

0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:17.000
<v Speaker 2>fact that she never once was on watching happas Live

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:19.040
<v Speaker 2>like I think she I think.

0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I think Diana.

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:23.479
<v Speaker 2>Jenkins realized this isn't worth it and I would rather

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 2>live my wealthy life without cameras and brawent. You're gonna

0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:30.920
<v Speaker 2>have to ask yourself that question if you are served

0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 2>with some sort of automatum.

0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:36.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, with Diana. I won't say who, but

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 3>I talked to one of the cast members that was

0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:40.000
<v Speaker 3>friends with Diana, and it kind of filled me in

0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 3>on die the thing with Diane. I loved Diana. I

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:46.360
<v Speaker 3>thought she was so good, but like she was not.

0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:50.280
<v Speaker 3>She wasn't playing the game, like she wasn't letting people

0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 3>produce her, and she wasn't playing the game. She was like,

0:51:53.239 --> 0:51:58.319
<v Speaker 3>I am gonna behave exactly as I would in real life.

0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:00.279
<v Speaker 3>And that's why when she suck because something is a

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:02.760
<v Speaker 3>fucking mess Like I love Stan, but someton is so messy,

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:05.279
<v Speaker 3>and Suton plays the game and pokes and stuff, and

0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 3>like when she had that sit down with Sutton and

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:10.200
<v Speaker 3>Sutton's apologizing and Diana wouldn't take it. It's like, obviously,

0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:12.440
<v Speaker 3>if you're on a television show with someone, it's like, okay,

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:16.880
<v Speaker 3>conflict resolution, that's the formula. But Diana's just like, no, bitch,

0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 3>Like if you did this to me in real life,

0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:21.280
<v Speaker 3>it would be like one and done and I would

0:52:21.280 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 3>move on. And like she so I thought there was

0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:26.839
<v Speaker 3>something just like so real about Diana. But you know,

0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:30.560
<v Speaker 3>the audience didn't play well with the audience, and you

0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:33.600
<v Speaker 3>know it's probably not great for TV. But and can

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:36.439
<v Speaker 3>I ask you one thing real quick, what is your

0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:39.840
<v Speaker 3>take on even just like a quick take on the

0:52:39.840 --> 0:52:42.319
<v Speaker 3>current season of Potomac, because I fucking love the new

0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:45.840
<v Speaker 3>season of Potomac. I think it's so good. It's so good,

0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:48.080
<v Speaker 3>it's so fun, it's so good.

0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 2>It's it's a much lighter season, it's not dark. I'm

0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:52.880
<v Speaker 2>loving Stacy.

0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:56.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, Stacy's and I know Stacy's a fucking icon,

0:52:56.520 --> 0:52:57.959
<v Speaker 3>like obsessed.

0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:00.759
<v Speaker 2>Tell me, okay, I want to knock you and the

0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 2>beauty of our friendship. We agree a lot and we

0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 2>disagree a lot, but we do respectfully. Can you tell

0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:11.839
<v Speaker 2>me the moment you fell in love with Stacey? Because

0:53:11.920 --> 0:53:15.799
<v Speaker 2>I have the moment what I said, Oh, she's a

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:17.319
<v Speaker 2>star and I'm gonna ride for her.

0:53:17.520 --> 0:53:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, But do you know.

0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:22.480
<v Speaker 3>This is the second I mean the second she opened

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:25.000
<v Speaker 3>her mouth with that weird news rate of voice, Like

0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:29.759
<v Speaker 3>I was like, there is just something sometimes it's just

0:53:30.040 --> 0:53:32.560
<v Speaker 3>like you just instantly love a housewife and you kin'd

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:34.360
<v Speaker 3>of even put your finger on it. You just like,

0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:39.200
<v Speaker 3>she's it. She's that girl, no said say to you.

0:53:40.120 --> 0:53:42.400
<v Speaker 2>The moment I was like, it's official, I love this

0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:48.239
<v Speaker 2>woman is she was in her interview chair and she's

0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:52.680
<v Speaker 2>recapping the scene that she's and about the revelation that

0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:55.840
<v Speaker 2>me is a stripper, and she goes, yeah, the allegations

0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:58.760
<v Speaker 2>about strippers, and so Waite was me a stripper?

0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:03.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh she was a stripper? Well, I mean okay.

0:54:04.760 --> 0:54:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Like like so innocent, so like, well, I'm trying to

0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:10.879
<v Speaker 2>have her back, and it goes to show you this,

0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:15.040
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to be over the top to be interesting.

0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Stacy is not loud, she's not aggressive, she's not trying

0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:20.400
<v Speaker 2>to be the moment.

0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:22.279
<v Speaker 1>She is so.

0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:26.799
<v Speaker 2>Like and when I say this is the compliment, So

0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:30.560
<v Speaker 2>this is not negative. But I like her wackiness and

0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:35.320
<v Speaker 2>her aloofness and it works for her, and it's working

0:54:35.360 --> 0:54:39.439
<v Speaker 2>for a Potomac. And dare I say, you know, this

0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 2>is my favorite season a long time because I don't

0:54:44.680 --> 0:54:47.040
<v Speaker 2>have to watch a season where women are in the

0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:47.919
<v Speaker 2>same room and then.

0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Not speaking to each other. That drives me nuts.

0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:54.920
<v Speaker 2>And I like the fact that they're playing on the

0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:57.400
<v Speaker 2>comedy more and I'm here for it.

0:54:57.400 --> 0:55:00.239
<v Speaker 3>It was like the producers know exactly who I mean.

0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:02.440
<v Speaker 3>I love Candice and I did like, I mean, Robin

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:04.480
<v Speaker 3>should have gone because of the stuff she was hiding

0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:07.400
<v Speaker 3>from the show. But like they knew exactly who to

0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:11.240
<v Speaker 3>take out, and then clearly there was a conversation between

0:55:11.680 --> 0:55:13.839
<v Speaker 3>production and the women, and then I think the women

0:55:13.880 --> 0:55:16.680
<v Speaker 3>amongst themselves to be like, we need to tone it down,

0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:18.400
<v Speaker 3>we need to be less toxic. We don't want to

0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:21.440
<v Speaker 3>end up like New Jersey. So like Wendy, who I

0:55:21.480 --> 0:55:25.400
<v Speaker 3>think is so annoying, and just like I can hardly

0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:28.319
<v Speaker 3>even bear to watch Wendy, Like she's toned it down

0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:31.080
<v Speaker 3>so much this season where she's actually just like really likable,

0:55:31.120 --> 0:55:35.160
<v Speaker 3>Like she's still Wendy, but like she's it's just a

0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:37.359
<v Speaker 3>more chill Wendy, and it's like, good, you're not being

0:55:37.360 --> 0:55:39.840
<v Speaker 3>so extra, you're not doing the like TikTok thing and

0:55:39.920 --> 0:55:42.879
<v Speaker 3>you know, coming in with your contrived stuff. And then

0:55:43.440 --> 0:55:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Giselle is like Gizelle, still being Gizelle, still being messy

0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:49.239
<v Speaker 3>and shady, but it's not to like a level where

0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:52.360
<v Speaker 3>it's like crazy, and like, you know, Karen's still Karen,

0:55:52.400 --> 0:55:56.520
<v Speaker 3>but I feel like she's not Karen likes to hide

0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:58.360
<v Speaker 3>a lot of things, but she's sort of being a

0:55:58.360 --> 0:56:02.600
<v Speaker 3>little bit more open by Karen and standards and everyone

0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:05.200
<v Speaker 3>just like gets it and they want to make a

0:56:05.200 --> 0:56:08.080
<v Speaker 3>good show and they're just having more fun and the

0:56:08.160 --> 0:56:12.080
<v Speaker 3>personal story is great. And then like I loved when

0:56:12.120 --> 0:56:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Stacy came up to ask Karen about the duy and

0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:18.400
<v Speaker 3>she's like, do I need to be concerned about you?

0:56:18.680 --> 0:56:18.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:23.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm so serious about She was so but what I'm

0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:26.560
<v Speaker 1>talking about. She was so concerned. She's like, I'm hearing things.

0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Should I be concerned that you're going to rehab? And

0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:33.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, she like means it.

0:56:34.080 --> 0:56:39.880
<v Speaker 2>And the best part, I'm laughing the entire time. It

0:56:40.000 --> 0:56:42.799
<v Speaker 2>was funny and it wasn't meant to be funny. And

0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:47.839
<v Speaker 2>that's why Stacy is a great housewife because look, it's

0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:53.480
<v Speaker 2>giving Potomac this sort of like makeover in terms of

0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:56.319
<v Speaker 2>like what the future of the show can be and

0:56:56.520 --> 0:57:00.120
<v Speaker 2>between Jazzy Stacy, kk.

0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Mia coming in, you know this.

0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:07.919
<v Speaker 2>I think her fourth season is now, but it's sort

0:57:07.960 --> 0:57:11.279
<v Speaker 2>of like there's this new flavor in town and I

0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:13.279
<v Speaker 2>don't want them to mess it up.

0:57:13.600 --> 0:57:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel like this was was.

0:57:16.000 --> 0:57:20.840
<v Speaker 2>A smart move to bring the audience something new. And

0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm an advocate for this show being watched by millions.

0:57:24.080 --> 0:57:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think the ratings have actually been good

0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:29.400
<v Speaker 3>and from what I'm seeing online, like the audience feedback

0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:32.120
<v Speaker 3>is pretty good. And I think they played this season

0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:35.440
<v Speaker 3>really smart as well, because a lot of us had

0:57:35.560 --> 0:57:37.880
<v Speaker 3>very low expectations. And when I saw the trailer, I

0:57:37.880 --> 0:57:39.720
<v Speaker 3>didn't like the trailer at all. I thought the trailer

0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:42.200
<v Speaker 3>was so boring and I was like, oh, me too. Yeah,

0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:43.560
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, this is gonna be like this

0:57:43.640 --> 0:57:46.320
<v Speaker 3>is unwatchable, Like how did this go from being you know,

0:57:46.400 --> 0:57:48.440
<v Speaker 3>it was like the best Housewives show in sort of

0:57:48.440 --> 0:57:50.760
<v Speaker 3>season like three and four around then It's like I

0:57:50.840 --> 0:57:53.400
<v Speaker 3>went from being the best of being the worst. And

0:57:53.640 --> 0:57:55.880
<v Speaker 3>I think I only even watched the premieu. I'm like, oh,

0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:57.800
<v Speaker 3>I need something to talk about on Patreon this week,

0:57:57.840 --> 0:58:00.439
<v Speaker 3>so let me watch it. And I'm like, wait, this good.

0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:02.480
<v Speaker 3>And now it's like my favorite, Like it's the one

0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:05.360
<v Speaker 3>that I'm literally like looking forward to watching the most

0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:07.560
<v Speaker 3>because I just know it's gonna be like funny, it's

0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:10.560
<v Speaker 3>gonna be shade. And did I tell you that I

0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:14.439
<v Speaker 3>saw Karen Hugo at a party and I hung out

0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:17.040
<v Speaker 3>with her. She was by herself at the US Weekly

0:58:17.160 --> 0:58:21.640
<v Speaker 3>party by herself. Yes, Karen by herself. I didn't see

0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:23.040
<v Speaker 3>her drink by the way, I asked her, do you

0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:24.600
<v Speaker 3>want me to get you a cocktail? She goes, no,

0:58:24.680 --> 0:58:28.520
<v Speaker 3>it's fine, and she was sitting there alone and this

0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:31.400
<v Speaker 3>was like, there's a lot of people there. Later on,

0:58:31.480 --> 0:58:33.880
<v Speaker 3>she actually spent the rest of the night with Monica,

0:58:34.640 --> 0:58:37.600
<v Speaker 3>which was so funny seeing them together. But there was

0:58:37.640 --> 0:58:40.520
<v Speaker 3>a lot of you know, like reality people. That was

0:58:40.560 --> 0:58:43.240
<v Speaker 3>like there were not any de Fiance people, Bravo people,

0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:47.040
<v Speaker 3>Bachelor people. And Karen came and she was sitting by herself,

0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:49.640
<v Speaker 3>and I had, you know, had a few drinks and

0:58:49.680 --> 0:58:51.320
<v Speaker 3>then I was like, oh, should I go over and

0:58:51.480 --> 0:58:55.120
<v Speaker 3>chat to Karen? And yeah. I went down there and

0:58:55.320 --> 0:58:57.880
<v Speaker 3>was like and I told her, I said, girl, I

0:58:57.920 --> 0:58:59.880
<v Speaker 3>thought the trailer was so boring, but I just watched

0:58:59.880 --> 0:59:03.120
<v Speaker 3>the premiere and it was so good and you guys

0:59:03.120 --> 0:59:05.640
<v Speaker 3>are killing it. And she was so nice. She told

0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:07.880
<v Speaker 3>me she's working on a new fragrance to follow up

0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:11.320
<v Speaker 3>to La Dame. And the reason that I ended up

0:59:11.400 --> 0:59:13.880
<v Speaker 3>leaving her was because the music was really loud and

0:59:13.880 --> 0:59:16.000
<v Speaker 3>she wasn't talking loud enough, and it's like I kind

0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:18.080
<v Speaker 3>of couldn't hear what she was saying, so I started

0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:20.240
<v Speaker 3>doing the thing you know, when like you can't hear

0:59:20.280 --> 0:59:22.680
<v Speaker 3>someone properly and you're just like smiling and nodding, pretending

0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:24.880
<v Speaker 3>you know what they're saying. I was doing that for

0:59:24.920 --> 0:59:27.400
<v Speaker 3>like ten minutes with Karen, and then eventually I'm like, well,

0:59:27.400 --> 0:59:29.560
<v Speaker 3>it was nice hang out with you by and left

0:59:29.640 --> 0:59:32.360
<v Speaker 3>her alone over there until Monica rescued her. But she

0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:34.640
<v Speaker 3>was lovely. I was surprised. I thought she might be

0:59:34.720 --> 0:59:36.400
<v Speaker 3>more aloof but she was very nice.

0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, Karen.

0:59:37.920 --> 0:59:44.320
<v Speaker 2>I've had the pleasure of meaning Karen, Giselle, Robin, me

0:59:44.680 --> 0:59:50.880
<v Speaker 2>uh I, and Athlee, and I have to say they're

0:59:50.920 --> 0:59:53.640
<v Speaker 2>all nice, Like all of them were so nice and

0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:56.680
<v Speaker 2>just so like fun to be around. So I'm not

0:59:56.720 --> 0:59:59.280
<v Speaker 2>surprised that Karen was like that. I almost shocked that

0:59:59.280 --> 1:00:02.000
<v Speaker 2>she's by herself, I felt, because she is the grand dom.

1:00:02.440 --> 1:00:06.920
<v Speaker 2>And I'm also I also love hearing that, you know,

1:00:07.000 --> 1:00:08.760
<v Speaker 2>like you said you didn't see her drink anything, and

1:00:08.800 --> 1:00:12.080
<v Speaker 2>you offered her a cocktail she said no, thank you.

1:00:12.560 --> 1:00:15.320
<v Speaker 2>So I think that just says a lot to Karen's journey.

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<v Speaker 2>And again I'm not here judging her what her journey

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<v Speaker 2>looks like. Only she knows what she what that looks

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<v Speaker 2>like for her. But it is nice to hear that

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<v Speaker 2>versus the other stories we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Hearing on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>So look, I love the fact that you and I

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<v Speaker 2>are able to spend more than an hour talking about

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<v Speaker 2>what we did oc Teddy's drama, Potomac, sal Leg City.

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<v Speaker 2>We brought up some of New York stuff, but we

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<v Speaker 2>probably let you go. We probably let you go. Real

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<v Speaker 2>Housewaves in New York City is having.

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<v Speaker 3>Not great season, I mean, the worst season in housewives

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<v Speaker 3>history possibly.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of people have been saying that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people have been saying that last question for you,

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<v Speaker 2>was this reboot a mistake?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, absolutely. It is so bad and it's funny watching

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<v Speaker 3>like watching Potomac. That shows how you make a show light,

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's light done right, like when you lighten up

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<v Speaker 3>a show and make it fun. And they obviously with

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<v Speaker 3>Ronnie they're like, yeah, let's make Ronnie light again. And

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<v Speaker 3>they went so far in the other direction where it

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<v Speaker 3>is so boring. I mean, you've got that what's the

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<v Speaker 3>annoying one that's always like horny and floating with Brin

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<v Speaker 3>and she's just lying on camera to make drama like

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<v Speaker 3>she's just going, oh, this one said that about you

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<v Speaker 3>and it never happened. And then they just laugh about

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<v Speaker 3>it like nothing is happening. What I think they should

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<v Speaker 3>do is I think they should do. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I think they should just cancel it, but they won't

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<v Speaker 3>because it's like it has too much of a legacy name.

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas I feel like I feel like it probably does

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<v Speaker 3>okay like streaming wise, like internationally and everything just overall

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<v Speaker 3>because of their brand of Rony. But I think between

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<v Speaker 3>this season and next season, I think they should do

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<v Speaker 3>an Ultimate Girls Trip with the old a mix of

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<v Speaker 3>the old cast and the new cast. And I just

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<v Speaker 3>think that would be fun and I think it would

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like it would show us maybe a different

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<v Speaker 3>side of some of the new Girls. And then I

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<v Speaker 3>think going into the third season, it needs a major

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<v Speaker 3>retooling because it's just not working. I know that Bravaro

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<v Speaker 3>probably doesn't want to go backwards and bring back, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>old people, but they've got to do something because it's

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<v Speaker 3>so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the only I think that's the only way it

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<v Speaker 2>can work. I think you have to bring back someone OG's.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you have to sort of one thing Rob

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<v Speaker 2>was fantastic at is always surprising us with great.

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<v Speaker 1>Changes. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I think the Valley is a good example of

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<v Speaker 2>a show that came back with some complicated and controversial

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<v Speaker 2>stars and people love the show. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>time to bring some of the oji's back. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Luanne is great, Sonya's great.

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<v Speaker 3>They wouldn't hang out with like, it's not their friend group.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's the thing. That's the thing. I think. This

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<v Speaker 2>is my opinion. I think you're rid of all the

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<v Speaker 2>new girls. I'm just I'm not interested in any of

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<v Speaker 2>their personal stories and I'm not invested, do you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Like, I yeah, there's not one of

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<v Speaker 2>them and they're all like great people.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that.

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<v Speaker 2>But as a viewer, I'm not rushing home to watch

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<v Speaker 2>something that I just can't get enough of.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have that ability to carry the show anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>What they kind of needed. I mean, obviously this could

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<v Speaker 3>never happen because she's suing Bravo. If Leah had ensued Bravo,

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<v Speaker 3>I really think that, Like if you're just throwing Lea

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<v Speaker 3>in the first season, I think, and maybe like one

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<v Speaker 3>other one, like if you just kept like I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I know that Tinsley's left, but it was just like

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<v Speaker 3>Lea and Luan or something, and then some of these

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<v Speaker 3>new girls, like Ci, I think is good. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron's good, Like I think they could have made it work.

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<v Speaker 3>They just needed I don't know, but it's it's just bad.

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<v Speaker 3>And some of the girls are interesting on their own,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I actually do think that Aaron. I do like Aaron,

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<v Speaker 3>and I do like Ci. I think they're kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the two breakouts, but the rest can go. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Brin girl, like I cannot.

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<v Speaker 2>I love brand first season, but I think what happened

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<v Speaker 2>is which happens with a lot of girls. She became

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<v Speaker 2>a caricature of herself because she played up into what

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<v Speaker 2>the audience wanted to see or what she thought they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to see, and she wasn't being herself. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like the destruction of a second season reality star.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it's I mean, I'm very curious just to see,

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<v Speaker 3>from like a business production standpoint, what are you guys

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<v Speaker 3>going to do? Because they can't just bring this cast

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<v Speaker 3>back for a third season, Like the ratings are in

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<v Speaker 3>the toilet and everyone hates it, so like they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to do something, I just have no idea what it

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<v Speaker 3>will be. And it's just the roney Ogs. They're kind

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<v Speaker 3>of too old to mix with this crowd except Leah

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<v Speaker 3>who's suing Bravo or Ebonie. Like Lea and Ebnie aren't

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<v Speaker 3>coming back, So.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, well look, you and I will be

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<v Speaker 2>the first one to talk about it once a decision

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<v Speaker 2>is made. So thank you Jock Bird stepping into the

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<v Speaker 2>podcast to talk to me once again. Let the rain

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<v Speaker 2>drops know where they can support your podcast on Patreon

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<v Speaker 2>and also follow you on social media.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, follow me on Instagram, guys at Popular JP and

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<v Speaker 3>do a weekly Patreon episode and it's just a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of housewives stuff and I have a chat in there,

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<v Speaker 3>so if you want to like, leave comments, so leave

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<v Speaker 3>you know, questions or want any tea like I'm spilling

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<v Speaker 3>it there. So yeah, I'm Popular JP. Check me out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks guys, All.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, thank you Jock and I'll see you the next time.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye.

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