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Speaker 1: Hey rain Drops.

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Speaker 2: On today's episode Reality for the King, we have a

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Speaker 2: double hitter.

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Speaker 1: One of the stories.

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Speaker 2: I feel horrible for even talking about it because she's

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Speaker 2: a friend of mine, but I know her so well

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Speaker 2: that she understands that we're all just.

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Speaker 1: Doing our job.

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Speaker 2: And I have an update in regards to Salt Lake

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Speaker 2: City that may surprise you. But first, please welcome back

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Speaker 2: my guest that caused so much controversy with his take that,

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Speaker 2: I was like, well, you.

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Speaker 1: Have to come back, belove it. Give it up you

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Speaker 1: guys for Jock Peterson.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me back like twice in less than

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Speaker 3: a month. I feel like I'm killing it.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're killing it because you are a journalist, hey, Portia,

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Speaker 2: and there's so much breaking news going on. It was

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Speaker 2: are somebody that's always breaking news and you can offer information.

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Speaker 2: It's about my friend Teddy Mellacamp, who recently filed for

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Speaker 2: divorce from her husband.

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Speaker 1: Edwin, And.

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Speaker 2: Look, she's my friend and I want to make sure

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Speaker 2: to show some respect to a very delicate situation. So

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about it. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 2: Jock do it because he is a journalist.

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Speaker 3: You're a mess, so that is why you hit me up.

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Speaker 3: You're like, come back on the pod, and I'm like, oh, now,

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Speaker 3: the agenda is clear. This feels very housewivesy, This is

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Speaker 2: I'm Teddy, Oh look, look you are somebody that has

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Speaker 2: So Teddy is not going to take this personally because

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Speaker 2: The only thing I know that is what she says.

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Speaker 2: So Teddy has filed for divorce from her husband, and

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Speaker 2: there's so many allegations and rumors that's out there. Teddy

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Speaker 3: Well, I will happily say it all dropped the bomb,

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Speaker 3: John says, has been on the phone with me because

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Speaker 2: Oh, but Jock, you were at the live podcast recently.

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Speaker 3: Now I was, and actually I left early. I went

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Speaker 3: with my friend Tamra got me in because I'm friends

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Speaker 3: So it was really floating there for like a week,

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Speaker 2: So the allegation is, like, I don't want to be

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Speaker 2: No, there's a lot going on right there, because, like

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Speaker 1: Right. So recently there was an article.

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Speaker 3: that they're both kind of there's something that's kind of

436
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 3: like uptight and serious about both of them, you know,

437
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 3: like and kind of very straightforward, and they get a

438
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 3: bit flustered when they go up against Yeah, and I

439
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 3: don't know there's something similar there, but I want to

440
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 3: see Teddy. I want to see Teddy hold Katie accountable

441
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 3: for whatever Katie's been doing.

442
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 2: Oh oh, okay, wait a second, Wait a second, i'dn't

443
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 2: think okay.

444
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 3: Do you want me to produce the next season evolution?

445
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 3: Hit me up?

446
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 2: Yes, so, all the producers who produce I'll see your listening,

447
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: please called Jock Peterson. He's local in Los Angeles, so

448
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: you don't have to like pay for his airfare.

449
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 3: Keep me up, do you know Luke?

450
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: Yes, he's one of my best friends. I love love. Hey, look,

451
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: hey girl.

452
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 2: Child, we are just getting started. This is reality with

453
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into

454
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: the show.

455
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Speaker 1: Jock, I never thought about this, the idea of Kate.

456
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 2: You know what's so funny. I'm gonna I'm gonna go

457
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: there with you. Katie and Teddy are ice queen?

458
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: Yes? Right? So what?

459
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Jock, you're really good at this? What

460
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 2: what we haven't really seen? I don't think ever in

461
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,479
Speaker 2: the history of housewives, if I'm really thinking about it,

462
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: you haven't seen a showdown between two ice queens who

463
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 2: don't yell. Do you know what I mean, like, who

464
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: don't yell after a certain octave, Like there's sort of

465
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 2: like very monotone but icy, but but but very listen,

466
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 2: very direct to shady and can read you but in

467
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: a very subtle direct way. I have never seen that

468
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: on Housewives, Have you No?

469
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 3: And I just think that OC has such an interesting

470
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 3: dynamic now, Like I know that you're a huge Jen

471
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 3: fan and sol my, I think Jen has had one

472
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 3: of the greatest sophomore seasons of all time. Like it's

473
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 3: it's so like by the time, you know, and look,

474
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: I'm friends with Tamra and I'm always right or die

475
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 3: for Tamra, so you know, it's my girl, but.

476
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: She's my friend in real life. I love her. Yeah.

477
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: Look, I even texted Tamorra after I watched part two

478
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 3: of the reunion. I was like, sorry, girl, and Jen

479
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: is killing this, Like.

480
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: And what does she say back to you? Are you

481
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: allowed to say.

482
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 3: Tamra ignore that Jen is good television?

483
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: Thank you? Okay.

484
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: I didn't want to say okay, okay, so okay. The

485
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: only thing I will say too is I have also spoken.

486
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: To Tamara about my love for Jen.

487
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: How great Jen is and Jock is one thousand percent correct.

488
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 2: I want you ought to know Tamra doesn't hate Jen.

489
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: Tamara is not a gen hater. She under listen. Tamar

490
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 2: is a legend who started the sort of what's what

491
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 2: I'm looking for, Jock, because Tamar's the first house.

492
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: She turned housewives into survivor. She created the modern formula

493
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: of housewives because it wasn't about drama before Tamara got

494
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: on the show.

495
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 2: And you better preach, So all of you guys who

496
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: hate Tamara, let's have a real conversation. Tamar Judge is

497
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 2: the first housewife to ever go there and brought drama

498
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 2: to the franchise because before Tamara it.

499
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 1: Was really about like, oh, we are neighbors and living.

500
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 2: In the same gated commune and we've talked about our kids.

501
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: Now Tamar said hold on to your Daddy's Gretchen's here,

502
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 2: you know, like really really brought that. And every housewife

503
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: till today has used that formula. But I saw that

504
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: to say, I want the roll to know this too.

505
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: Tamra understands what Jen has brought to the show and

506
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: doesn't hate it.

507
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: And I'll leave it at that.

508
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: Yes, and they have their own and look, I do

509
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 3: think that I think Tamara is going to be vindicated

510
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: in the end. She often is because Tamara has a

511
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 3: good's Tama has a great bullshit detector. And as much

512
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 3: as I adore Jen, you know something in the middle

513
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 3: gain clean, Like it's a little shady out there, and

514
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 3: I think that Tamra will be vindicated. But I didn't

515
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 3: even know where I was going with this, but I

516
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 3: just want to say, Jen read Tamra Fulfilled at the

517
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: reunion and it was amazing. Sorry, Tamra, and I kind

518
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: of couldn't.

519
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: Okay, no, oh Shae, can you tell the audience well,

520
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 2: I was your favorite part about the read, like, can

521
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 2: you like and your gen boys give the read the of.

522
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: The party reader.

523
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: I don't remember it verbatim, but it was just like,

524
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 3: it's really hard to check Tamra. And one thing is

525
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 3: as well. And I've always said this, like a lot

526
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: of the girls, like Emily and Gina, who I'm big

527
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: fans of, and I've been fans of them since they

528
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 3: joined the show. I was never a hater of Gina

529
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 3: and Emily's ever, and they've had times where they've like

530
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: tussled with Tamra and they always back down, And I

531
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: was always saying to myself, like girls like follow through

532
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 3: with it. Tamra's a big girl, she's tough, she can

533
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 3: take it, go toe to toe with her. She's not

534
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: Lisa vander Palmp like where she's going to be pulling

535
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: all of this shit like she spa with her and

536
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: no one sees it through And Jen and I said,

537
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 3: quiet sweet, Jen was just like, girl, I am gonna

538
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: read you up and down and I don't give a

539
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: fuck and I'm not scared of you. And look, it's

540
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: worked out great. It's been an amazing season. Hammer is

541
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 3: more relevant than ever Jen is, you know, having the

542
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: show is popping. It's like everyone's favorite season right now.

543
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: It will probably be the best Housewive season of the year.

544
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's just it's so good. It's just such

545
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: a good cast. So throw Teddy in there instead of Alexis,

546
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: and you know, there's a.

547
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: Season, and there's a season, and I'll end with this.

548
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: Teddy has said that please give her some time while

549
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: she's dealing with this and for her children. So our

550
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,479
Speaker 2: thoughts in press grow out to Teddy Mellencamp. Jack and

551
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: I are whose fans of Teddy. We're Teddy Bears. And

552
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: we really want her back on TV, and we both

553
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: think the best thing to do, especially because Housewives of

554
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills is airing this week, so it only makes

555
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: sense that she goes back to OC because OC allegedly

556
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: is picking up cameras really, really soon, and you need to.

557
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: Capitalize on this.

558
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of capitalizing, I have been capitalized on my

559
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: rain drops, who has forced me to watch this season

560
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: of Salt Lake City because I wasn't going to give

561
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: it a chance because I'm a huge Monica fan and

562
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: Monica listen, I'll say it that I'll move on. Monica

563
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: turned that show out last season, and I was sad

564
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: to see her number turn. But I did watch the

565
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 2: premiere episode and I told my rain drops that Broadwind

566
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: was fantastic, and I saw that in the first episode.

567
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't like X, Y and Z, but

568
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: that Broadwind watch off of her. So recently they all

569
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 2: said to watch it. I spent the weekend binging, and

570
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: we have to talk about Salt Lake City and my adoration,

571
00:30:51,840 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 2: obsession and love for Broadway. I am obsessed, and we

572
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: have to talk about what she is bringing to this

573
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: season because it's campy and the best way.

574
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: Passablele it's campy, but she's also dominating in a way

575
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: where it's like the first cast trip and she's calling

576
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 3: the shots of like Heather, and Heather's like the like

577
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 3: Heather is like the you know, the Kyle or like

578
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 3: the force multiplier really of the show, and Bro's like, Heather,

579
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: you're not coming on the trip and Lisa, if you

580
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: don't get it together, you're going home too, bitch like,

581
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: and she's getting away with it, which is wild, by

582
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: the way, just backtracking one second to Monica, I was

583
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: really glad. I mean, I love Monica and that season

584
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: was phenomenal, but it just would have been too much

585
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 3: with Monica coming back and she's just two. She's two

586
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 3: in the blogs, she's too involved in all that. Monica

587
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: needs a pause, Like we can bring Monica back at

588
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 3: a time that's appropriate. But I thought they made the

589
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 3: right decision and watching the season, they absolutely did, and

590
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 3: we have like a whole fresh thing. We don't have

591
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: to rehash another season of Monica, which if they brought

592
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 3: Monica back like it honestly would have been repetitive. And

593
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: that's what will happen probably if they bring Alexis back,

594
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: No shade, alexis so roman is like you know, the

595
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: premiere episode, they had this scene where she went to

596
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: like get coffee with Lisa Balow and she was wearing

597
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: like this Vinyl leopard thing, which when I first when

598
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: I saw that, I was like, Oh, you're on the

599
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: wrong show. This is not selling Sunset. You're way too

600
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: thirsty and annoying. And I was ready to write her off.

601
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: But by episode two, three four, I'm like, she is

602
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: fucking incredible, and she has that like Durnda Medley Margaret

603
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 3: Joseph's kind of thing where it's like you came onto

604
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: the show late, but you feel like an og instantly,

605
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: Like she just like she just feels like she's been

606
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: there from the start, you know what I mean?

607
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: Good point, No, you know, I'm really thinking about it,

608
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: especially Durenda Durrenda came on New York City and immediately.

609
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: Felt like an OG. So I understand the correlation. Yeah.

610
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: And I was looking up because I'm just curious about

611
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: Bromwin and I was looking her up today and I

612
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: went on this subreddit called Utah Influencer Drama and they

613
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 3: it's just a thing where they're obsessed with Utah influences,

614
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: and she had been on that subreddit for a while,

615
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: so she was known around Utah as just this fabulous

616
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: fashion Easta because I kind of thought, honestly, at first,

617
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 3: when I saw it the season, I thought, she's just

618
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 3: dressing up like this for the show, Like this is

619
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: just her being contrived for television, wearing these wacky outfits.

620
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: But she really had been dressing like that and doing

621
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 3: that for years. And I also spoke to someone that

622
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 3: has a close friend of hers, and they said, that

623
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: is Bronwin. That is who she is. She dresses like that.

624
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 3: She's fabulous. She was known around Utah for just throwing

625
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: all these fun parties and being in the fashion world,

626
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: and was probably only a matter of time before she

627
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: ended up on the show.

628
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: And she's just amazing, Like she's so good, she's so fantastic.

629
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: So let's get right into it, because this most recent episode,

630
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: let us talk about the trip I'm un deserves. We

631
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: talked about in a global aspect of this recap, and

632
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: for me, this is like a recap of the episode

633
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: more so like does me acknowledging to the audience that

634
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: I am now on the train of Salt Lake City

635
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 2: like I'm on it and I'm here for the ride.

636
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 2: When made me fall in love with her was two things.

637
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: When she wore the wacky costume and pick up her

638
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: husband and at the airport, like it's so funny and

639
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 2: silly that listen. I like a housewife who does not

640
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: take herself so seriously, and.

641
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: The fact that she could have fun with it, I

642
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: thought was great.

643
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: But also her comfortability level at checking people. So even

644
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: when Heather went over her house, all that poop was

645
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: on the floor and listen, Heather, by the way, heathernless gorgeous,

646
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: Like whatever you're doing, girl, keep doing it. You look

647
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: at me eaze, but you're right like Heather to me

648
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 2: was positioned to be the face of the show, and

649
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: I personally never saw that in terms of the reasoning

650
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 2: behind it, but I think it was shoved on our

651
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 2: throats that it is what it is, that it was

652
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: Heather Show. And I like to argue that the other

653
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: person I love and this will be unpopular, like Jock's podcast,

654
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: the name of it not the reception of the name

655
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: of It's.

656
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: On Patreon subscribe to.

657
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: It was unpopular for some people. And you don't give

658
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: a shit because I don't believe social media is the.

659
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 1: Real world anyway. But I digress. I'm obsessed with Lisa Barlow.

660
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: I am in love with a woman who has no

661
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 2: sense of reality, and I love it. I don't like

662
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 2: people who play to the cameras. I don't like people

663
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: who play to the audience who want to see them

664
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: just be perfect. I love the fact that she complained

665
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: about sitting in seventeen C. That's what I want from

666
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: a housewife. I want ridiculousness. I want over the top.

667
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: I want somebody who doesn't care that half the audience

668
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: would love.

669
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: To just be on a plane, because that's who she is.

670
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: And I'm going to say this, and I know it's

671
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 2: not popular, and I don't give a shit. I love

672
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 2: Lisa Barlow, and to me, Lisa Barlow is the first

673
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: multiplier of the show.

674
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: Go ahead, John, Okay, Look, I disagree with I think

675
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: Heather is definitely the false multiplier and I'm a huge

676
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 3: fan of Heather's but I do think that it's like

677
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 3: neck and neck, and I really think that it's kind

678
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: of like I think Heather and Lisa to me, like

679
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 3: the Karen and Giselle of like Salt Lake City, like

680
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: it's all the Kyle and Lisa Vanda pomp, all the

681
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like it's really.

682
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 1: Like those and Kim and Nini back in the home like.

683
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 3: It's and they sort of That's why they have ups

684
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: and downs in their relationship because they and one thing

685
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: I will say about Lisa Barlow. Love her, but I

686
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: think she is She's definitely like you know, delusional and

687
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 3: not self aware and stuff. But I also think she's

688
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 3: way more calculated than it comes across. Like I do

689
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: think she's rehearsing lines to say on the show.

690
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: Agreed, That's why I could not get into the premiere episode.

691
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 2: And again, Lisa, I love you, but I'm also gonna

692
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: read you in the best way possible and that means

693
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: the kindest.

694
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: Lisa Barlow's behavior or.

695
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: Should I say performance in the season premiere is where

696
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: it turns me off because I'm like, Lisa Barlow is

697
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: too conscious of her image to behave that way at

698
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 2: a party that is branded by her her liquor brand.

699
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: So I thought it was rehearsing all that shit when

700
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 2: she threw When she threw.

701
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: The glass was really bad.

702
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 3: It was like girl, like, I mean, I look, I'm sure,

703
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: production will like, all right, we lost Monica, you girls

704
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: better fucking bring it because we got rid of, you know,

705
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: the most dramatic person ever, so don't fuck around. So

706
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: I get why they felt the pressure to do it,

707
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: but it was like, yes, it was ridiculous. So I

708
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: think that. I think even like she's kind of like Ramona.

709
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: Like I talked to one of the New York Housewives.

710
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 3: I won't say who, but she was like, yeah, Ramona's

711
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 3: not a dummy like Ramone, even though people think like

712
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 3: Ramona is just so like has no self awareness and

713
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: is completely in her own world, which is like true,

714
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 3: but it's like you don't last like that long on

715
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: a reality TV show without kind of knowing how to

716
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 3: play the game. Like even Ramona understands the assignment, knows

717
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 3: like we're making a television show and I'm going to

718
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 3: do things for TV. So Lisa Bolo is definitely like that.

719
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think the whole cast is bringing it.

720
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 3: I mean, Mary is fucking sensational on this season.

721
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 1: So sensational, love love love love Mary.

722
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: It's it's mind blowing. I can't get over it. From

723
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 3: the Mary that was originally on like those early seasons

724
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: of Salt Lake, where she seemed like too weird to

725
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 3: even be on Bravo. It was like, this is not

726
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: Bravo's brand, Like why is this person here? Like she

727
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 3: should be one of the like the weirdos on like

728
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: ninety Day Fiance or something like this isn't working. You're

729
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 3: like toxic and insane. And now it's like she's like

730
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: a human being and she's like fully fleshed out and

731
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: she has like she has really great reads, like when

732
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: she reads Heather, I love it. And she really seems

733
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 3: to be able to cut through the bs. And then

734
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: we're seeing we're seeing this vulnerable side of her with

735
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 3: her son and her being a mom, and we're seeing

736
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 3: her friendship with Angie. And when I heard that her

737
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 3: and Angie had become friends, originally I'm like, this has

738
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: to be the thirstiest, fakest friendship like ever because he's,

739
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 3: you know, Angie's just desperate to who I love Angie

740
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 3: by the way, So this isn't shade to Angie. But

741
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, this feels very calful. Yeah, I was like,

742
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: this feels calculate. But then when I'm watching their friendship together,

743
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I get it. They seem like they

744
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: actually are friends. So yeah, it's really a phenomenal season.

745
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: And there's something very different about Salt Lake City to

746
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 3: the other shows, Like there's just something a little bit

747
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: like weird, a little bit like crazy. This is kind

748
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 3: of like it has a bit of a screw loose,

749
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: and I just love it. It's so good.

750
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: No, I mean, listen, I am now learning to embrace

751
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: the campiness of the show. And so I will say this,

752
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: Each Real Housewives franchise should feel different. Every each one

753
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: should feel like there's something different, whether that's through the

754
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 2: cast or through the editing of the show. So they

755
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 2: definitely play up the camp on Salt Lake City. And

756
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: after watching four consecutive episodes, I'm not as distracted as

757
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: I was before, you know, when they used to overplay it.

758
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: I now get that that's at staple, So whatever.

759
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: Fine.

760
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 2: What is fascinating, though, is the dynamic of the cast,

761
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: and you're absolutely it does a bron win bringing fresh

762
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 2: story to this season. And I think that's the reason

763
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: why a lot of people are like, Okay, we like it,

764
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: Like like we were not getting the same old, same

765
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: o that we could have gotten last season, but we

766
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 2: are getting something fresh and to fill Monica's shoes is

767
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 2: big shoes to Phil, and I like the fact that

768
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: bron isn't trying to be Monica, She's trying to be herself,

769
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: and she is being herself so much so that we

770
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: got to talk about her husband because I'm very intrigued

771
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: with your thoughts on exactly their dynamics. So she has

772
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: a husband named Todd, and Todd is super rich, super wealthy,

773
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: like does beyond like majorly wealthy. Right, the way he

774
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: talks to Bronwen is rubbing a lot of people off.

775
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: They feel like he talks down to her.

776
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 2: They feel like Bronwin will get a divorce next season.

777
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on their dynamic because even the

778
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: jokes she made at the dinner table about you know,

779
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 2: the state of their marriage instead, but I was joking.

780
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: You know, there's always some truth in a joke. So

781
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: what do you think, Jock?

782
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 3: Okay, So there's two things to this. One is that

783
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 3: if you're a younger woman with no money and you're

784
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: with an older, wealthier man, like you sort of have

785
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 3: to cater to him to a certain extent. Like that's

786
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,479
Speaker 3: that's the arrangement, you know what I mean? Like, you're

787
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 3: he's not picking you because you're you have equal power

788
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 3: in the relationship and you're wearing the pants and everything.

789
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: It's kind of like, yes, it is all about him

790
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 3: because he's funding a certain lifestyle for you, and you're

791
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 3: offering your kind of youth and what you bring and

792
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 3: he has his big wallet. But doesn't mean that relationship

793
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 3: can't work and have love and have all these things.

794
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: But there's going to be a power imbalance and that

795
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 3: just comes with those types of relationships. So there's that.

796
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 3: And then you probably haven't seen this yet, but on

797
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 3: YouTube they released a preview of next week's episode and

798
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: it's after the trip and todd sits Bromwan down and

799
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 3: he's like, you know, bromwhen the way that you were

800
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: behaving on this trip, when you were screaming at Lisa Balow,

801
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: He's like, I've never seen that side of you before.

802
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 3: I don't know what has got into you. It was

803
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: very unbecoming. I don't like it. I didn't think there

804
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 3: was going to be drama on this trip. And really,

805
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: what I think we have here is like, look, he's

806
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 3: an old man. He doesn't watch housewives. She wanted to

807
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 3: do the show. She obviously is a flashy, flamboyant person

808
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: who was out living a big life on Instagram, you know,

809
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 3: enough to get written about on the you know, the

810
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: reddits of the world. She's doing a show, and now

811
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: she's she's doing what's expected when you're on a show

812
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 3: like this, which is fighting with people and being around

813
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: a bunch of dramatic people, and it's I think the

814
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 3: clash is there. I don't think it's that he speaks

815
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 3: down to her. I think it's just like, you've never

816
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 3: been like this before, and now here we are with

817
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 3: cameras and now you're screaming next to someone at a

818
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 3: pool and storming off, and it's like, who are you?

819
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 3: And I'm curious to see where their relationship goes and

820
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 3: how strong the relationship really is, because if I truly

821
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: loved someone and they can provide for me and we

822
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: have a you know, a great No marriage is perfect,

823
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: but we have a great relationship. Like, I'm not going

824
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 3: to throw it away to be on television. So if

825
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 3: she stays on the show and he's against it, they

826
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 3: might get divorced just because she's essentially going I would

827
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 3: rather be on a television show than save my marriage.

828
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's that's major and you and you brought

829
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: up something important, which is listen, Bronwyn is obviously a

830
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 2: kept woman.

831
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: She doesn't hide it.

832
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: She mentioned one of the things she loves about him

833
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: is his black heart, and even he said, that's the

834
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: main reason you love So they're both in on the joke,

835
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: like he listen, when you are older, wealthy man and

836
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: you have a beautiful, young wife, you know that the

837
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: first thing is your wife loves you because of your money.

838
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: And that's not shay, it is what it is, right,

839
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: And the wife understands as well that this man is

840
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: with me because I'm young and pretty and I'm a

841
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: good trophy wife on his arm. So they're both in

842
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 2: on the joke, right. But you're right, this man has

843
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 2: never seen a housewife show. This man is in boardrooms,

844
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: this man is traveling private. This man is probably hanging

845
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: out with Elon Musk, do you know what I mean? Like,

846
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: that's how wealthy and accessible he is to that one percent.

847
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: So to see that your wife, Yeah, I like her.

848
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: She's over the top.

849
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: She's a great conversation piece when I have dinner with

850
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: my boring friends and their wives, Like she's the star

851
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: of the dinner table conversation and he loves that because

852
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: she likes upper room. What this man had no idea

853
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: was like, wait, what type of show is this? And

854
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: I think, what's happening? I think what's happening today? He's

855
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: watching these episodes at home and he's and he's seeing

856
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: her behavior before the trip, and he's right, he's not

857
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: watching how Browin was before the trip. And it's like,

858
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: wait a second, this is a type of show that

859
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: you're on. And I'm gonna say this, and I could

860
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: be wrong. I think braun Went is going to have

861
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: to make a choice because a man of Todd's stature

862
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 2: number one and number two, based on what he's showing

863
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: us in conversations with her, He's not like these other

864
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: husbands jockhed that you and I know watching the show,

865
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: who loves the cameras, right, who wants to fame sometimes

866
00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: more than their wives.

867
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: Right. Todd is not into it for that, And I.

868
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: Think there's a huge possibility that Bronwin may have to

869
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: make a choice between the show and her marriage.

870
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the only way they're going to work

871
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 3: it out is if and I think obviously bron Won

872
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: will get asked back on the show because she's phenomenal,

873
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 3: and I mean, that's a no brainer. They're going to

874
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: have to come to a thing where he's like, look,

875
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: I'm not filming. I'll do a Harry Hamlin thing where

876
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: you'll get maybe one scene of me coming out to

877
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 3: the barbecue and giving you a kiss and bringing out

878
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 3: the sausages and then going back inside, and that's it.

879
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: And this is like your thing, and you can just

880
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 3: do this without me involved, but do not talk about

881
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 3: our marriage and don't talk about He seems to have

882
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 3: a problem as well with she's made a storyline about

883
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 3: I think her daughter not knowing the biological father, and

884
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 3: he's very protective over that, and he doesn't seem to

885
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 3: be a fan of that being turned into television fodder.

886
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: So they're gonna have to come to an arrangement where

887
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 3: it's like she's allowed to come back, but she doesn't

888
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 3: show her home life, which of course, is going to

889
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: put production in a bit of a pickle because they're like, well,

890
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: you know, but they're making allowances for fucking Ronie. I mean,

891
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 3: they're making those allowances for Jenna Lyons, who is I'm

892
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 3: so boring and I feel like there's a lot I mean,

893
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people on Ronie that are keeping

894
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: private stuff off there. So if they can do it

895
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 3: for Ronie.

896
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: You don't see any of their husbands and their dynamics.

897
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: It's all about like the girls.

898
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yess so, yeah, that's what they're going to have

899
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 3: to do. Or her marriage. She's going to ruin her

900
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 3: marriage to be on television. It's like, you really got

901
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: to think about is this what you want? Because look,

902
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: if you're in a marriage that's not great and you're

903
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 3: still young enough, and you're like, you know what, I

904
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 3: could do this show for a few years, have fun

905
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 3: and get some fame. I know that I'm going to

906
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 3: get X amount when I get divorced. I'm still young

907
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 3: enough to meet someone else. Okay, girl, But if you know,

908
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 3: like you really have had a good marriage with this

909
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 3: man for a really long time and he's taking care

910
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: of you and you love each other, and you have

911
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 3: have this family unit and he's a father figure to

912
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: your child, do you really want to throw that away

913
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 3: to being on the Real Housewives for a couple of years.

914
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 3: I mean, you've already been on for one season and

915
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 3: had fun, Like you can take one season and make

916
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 3: like think of Liam McSweeney how big she was on

917
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 3: her first season of Rony and then how much she

918
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 3: was hated on the second Sea. If she had just

919
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 3: left after the one season, she would like there would

920
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 3: be a lot of doors open for her, you know,

921
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: so you can make and even monic like, you can

922
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 3: make a lot out of one season if you had

923
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 3: that a good season, even like Tiffany Moon on Dallas.

924
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: She was really popular for her one season and she

925
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 3: got a lot of social media following from it, and

926
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 3: like you see her at events and she pops up

927
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 3: at things and stuff like Bromin. It's not that big

928
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 3: of a deal to walk away after one year. Now

929
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 3: as a viewer, I want her to stay, but I'm

930
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 3: just talking about her personal life. Think about the cost.

931
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think so till because the thing is this,

932
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: The thing is this in order for you to afford

933
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: those are elaborate outfits that I love to see, Like

934
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 2: the girl is dripped in in wealth, whether it's in

935
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 2: her interview looks or in a scene or or pool side,

936
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: like she always looks amazing unless you're gonna get half

937
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: of this man's money. Because what did come out is

938
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: did I get this right? Heat she did not sign

939
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 2: a print up?

940
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: Is that correct? Yeah?

941
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 3: They did talk about that. I think she didn't know.

942
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, so she could.

943
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah you could, you know, but but but but unless listen,

944
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 2: unless you're Diana Jenkins.

945
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

946
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 2: Like I the reason why I'm not mad at Diana Jenkins.

947
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 3: Honey, I love Diana.

948
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: She said, I thought this will be fun and interesting.

949
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: I brought them Elton John.

950
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: I'm I have more money than all these girls combined

951
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 2: times ten. And what I do respect about her is

952
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: she had a very bad first season. When I say bad,

953
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: I mean the audience perception of her. And she walked

954
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: away so much so she didn't show up to the

955
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 2: re union. Allegedly she had COVID. But I love the

956
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: fact that she never once was on watching happas Live

957
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: like I think she I think.

958
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: I think Diana.

959
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 2: Jenkins realized this isn't worth it and I would rather

960
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: live my wealthy life without cameras and brawent. You're gonna

961
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: have to ask yourself that question if you are served

962
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: with some sort of automatum.

963
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 3: Well, you know, with Diana. I won't say who, but

964
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 3: I talked to one of the cast members that was

965
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: friends with Diana, and it kind of filled me in

966
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: on die the thing with Diane. I loved Diana. I

967
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 3: thought she was so good, but like she was not.

968
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 3: She wasn't playing the game, like she wasn't letting people

969
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: produce her, and she wasn't playing the game. She was like,

970
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 3: I am gonna behave exactly as I would in real life.

971
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 3: And that's why when she suck because something is a

972
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 3: fucking mess Like I love Stan, but someton is so messy,

973
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 3: and Suton plays the game and pokes and stuff, and

974
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 3: like when she had that sit down with Sutton and

975
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 3: Sutton's apologizing and Diana wouldn't take it. It's like, obviously,

976
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 3: if you're on a television show with someone, it's like, okay,

977
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 3: conflict resolution, that's the formula. But Diana's just like, no, bitch,

978
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 3: Like if you did this to me in real life,

979
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 3: it would be like one and done and I would

980
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 3: move on. And like she so I thought there was

981
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 3: something just like so real about Diana. But you know,

982
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: the audience didn't play well with the audience, and you

983
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 3: know it's probably not great for TV. But and can

984
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 3: I ask you one thing real quick, what is your

985
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 3: take on even just like a quick take on the

986
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 3: current season of Potomac, because I fucking love the new

987
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 3: season of Potomac. I think it's so good. It's so good,

988
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 3: it's so fun, it's so good.

989
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: It's it's a much lighter season, it's not dark. I'm

990
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 2: loving Stacy.

991
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Stacy's and I know Stacy's a fucking icon,

992
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:57,959
Speaker 3: like obsessed.

993
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: Tell me, okay, I want to knock you and the

994
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: beauty of our friendship. We agree a lot and we

995
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: disagree a lot, but we do respectfully. Can you tell

996
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 2: me the moment you fell in love with Stacey? Because

997
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 2: I have the moment what I said, Oh, she's a

998
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 2: star and I'm gonna ride for her.

999
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 1: Go ahead, But do you know.

1000
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 3: This is the second I mean the second she opened

1001
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 3: her mouth with that weird news rate of voice, Like

1002
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 3: I was like, there is just something sometimes it's just

1003
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 3: like you just instantly love a housewife and you kin'd

1004
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 3: of even put your finger on it. You just like,

1005
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 3: she's it. She's that girl, no said say to you.

1006
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 2: The moment I was like, it's official, I love this

1007
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 2: woman is she was in her interview chair and she's

1008
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: recapping the scene that she's and about the revelation that

1009
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 2: me is a stripper, and she goes, yeah, the allegations

1010
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 2: about strippers, and so Waite was me a stripper?

1011
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: Oh she was a stripper? Well, I mean okay.

1012
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 2: Like like so innocent, so like, well, I'm trying to

1013
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 2: have her back, and it goes to show you this,

1014
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: you don't have to be over the top to be interesting.

1015
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 2: Stacy is not loud, she's not aggressive, she's not trying

1016
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 2: to be the moment.

1017
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: She is so.

1018
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 2: Like and when I say this is the compliment, So

1019
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: this is not negative. But I like her wackiness and

1020
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 2: her aloofness and it works for her, and it's working

1021
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 2: for a Potomac. And dare I say, you know, this

1022
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: is my favorite season a long time because I don't

1023
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: have to watch a season where women are in the

1024
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:47,919
Speaker 2: same room and then.

1025
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: Not speaking to each other. That drives me nuts.

1026
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: And I like the fact that they're playing on the

1027
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 2: comedy more and I'm here for it.

1028
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 3: It was like the producers know exactly who I mean.

1029
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 3: I love Candice and I did like, I mean, Robin

1030
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 3: should have gone because of the stuff she was hiding

1031
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 3: from the show. But like they knew exactly who to

1032
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 3: take out, and then clearly there was a conversation between

1033
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 3: production and the women, and then I think the women

1034
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 3: amongst themselves to be like, we need to tone it down,

1035
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 3: we need to be less toxic. We don't want to

1036
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 3: end up like New Jersey. So like Wendy, who I

1037
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 3: think is so annoying, and just like I can hardly

1038
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 3: even bear to watch Wendy, Like she's toned it down

1039
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 3: so much this season where she's actually just like really likable,

1040
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 3: Like she's still Wendy, but like she's it's just a

1041
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 3: more chill Wendy, and it's like, good, you're not being

1042
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 3: so extra, you're not doing the like TikTok thing and

1043
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 3: you know, coming in with your contrived stuff. And then

1044
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 3: Giselle is like Gizelle, still being Gizelle, still being messy

1045
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 3: and shady, but it's not to like a level where

1046
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 3: it's like crazy, and like, you know, Karen's still Karen,

1047
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 3: but I feel like she's not Karen likes to hide

1048
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 3: a lot of things, but she's sort of being a

1049
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 3: little bit more open by Karen and standards and everyone

1050
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 3: just like gets it and they want to make a

1051
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 3: good show and they're just having more fun and the

1052
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 3: personal story is great. And then like I loved when

1053
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 3: Stacy came up to ask Karen about the duy and

1054
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 3: she's like, do I need to be concerned about you?

1055
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1056
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: I'm so serious about She was so but what I'm

1057
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: talking about. She was so concerned. She's like, I'm hearing things.

1058
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: Should I be concerned that you're going to rehab? And

1059
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: you know, she like means it.

1060
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 2: And the best part, I'm laughing the entire time. It

1061
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 2: was funny and it wasn't meant to be funny. And

1062
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 2: that's why Stacy is a great housewife because look, it's

1063
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: giving Potomac this sort of like makeover in terms of

1064
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 2: like what the future of the show can be and

1065
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 2: between Jazzy Stacy, kk.

1066
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: Mia coming in, you know this.

1067
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 2: I think her fourth season is now, but it's sort

1068
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 2: of like there's this new flavor in town and I

1069
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 2: don't want them to mess it up.

1070
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: I feel like this was was.

1071
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: A smart move to bring the audience something new. And

1072
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: I'm an advocate for this show being watched by millions.

1073
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think the ratings have actually been good

1074
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 3: and from what I'm seeing online, like the audience feedback

1075
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 3: is pretty good. And I think they played this season

1076
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 3: really smart as well, because a lot of us had

1077
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 3: very low expectations. And when I saw the trailer, I

1078
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 3: didn't like the trailer at all. I thought the trailer

1079
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 3: was so boring and I was like, oh, me too. Yeah,

1080
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, this is gonna be like this

1081
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 3: is unwatchable, Like how did this go from being you know,

1082
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 3: it was like the best Housewives show in sort of

1083
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 3: season like three and four around then It's like I

1084
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 3: went from being the best of being the worst. And

1085
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 3: I think I only even watched the premieu. I'm like, oh,

1086
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 3: I need something to talk about on Patreon this week,

1087
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 3: so let me watch it. And I'm like, wait, this good.

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00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 3: And now it's like my favorite, Like it's the one

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00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 3: that I'm literally like looking forward to watching the most

1090
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 3: because I just know it's gonna be like funny, it's

1091
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 3: gonna be shade. And did I tell you that I

1092
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 3: saw Karen Hugo at a party and I hung out

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00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 3: with her. She was by herself at the US Weekly

1094
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: party by herself. Yes, Karen by herself. I didn't see

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00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 3: her drink by the way, I asked her, do you

1096
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 3: want me to get you a cocktail? She goes, no,

1097
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 3: it's fine, and she was sitting there alone and this

1098
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 3: was like, there's a lot of people there. Later on,

1099
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 3: she actually spent the rest of the night with Monica,

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00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 3: which was so funny seeing them together. But there was

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00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, like reality people. That was

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00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 3: like there were not any de Fiance people, Bravo people,

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00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 3: Bachelor people. And Karen came and she was sitting by herself,

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00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 3: and I had, you know, had a few drinks and

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00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 3: then I was like, oh, should I go over and

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00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 3: chat to Karen? And yeah. I went down there and

1107
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 3: was like and I told her, I said, girl, I

1108
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 3: thought the trailer was so boring, but I just watched

1109
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 3: the premiere and it was so good and you guys

1110
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 3: are killing it. And she was so nice. She told

1111
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 3: me she's working on a new fragrance to follow up

1112
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 3: to La Dame. And the reason that I ended up

1113
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 3: leaving her was because the music was really loud and

1114
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 3: she wasn't talking loud enough, and it's like I kind

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00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 3: of couldn't hear what she was saying, so I started

1116
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 3: doing the thing you know, when like you can't hear

1117
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 3: someone properly and you're just like smiling and nodding, pretending

1118
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 3: you know what they're saying. I was doing that for

1119
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 3: like ten minutes with Karen, and then eventually I'm like, well,

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00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 3: it was nice hang out with you by and left

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00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 3: her alone over there until Monica rescued her. But she

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00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 3: was lovely. I was surprised. I thought she might be

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00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 3: more aloof but she was very nice.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, Karen.

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Speaker 2: I've had the pleasure of meaning Karen, Giselle, Robin, me

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Speaker 2: uh I, and Athlee, and I have to say they're

1127
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 2: all nice, Like all of them were so nice and

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00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 2: just so like fun to be around. So I'm not

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00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: surprised that Karen was like that. I almost shocked that

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00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 2: she's by herself, I felt, because she is the grand dom.

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01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: And I'm also I also love hearing that, you know,

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01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 2: like you said you didn't see her drink anything, and

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01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 2: you offered her a cocktail she said no, thank you.

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01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 2: So I think that just says a lot to Karen's journey.

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01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 2: And again I'm not here judging her what her journey

1136
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 2: looks like. Only she knows what she what that looks

1137
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: like for her. But it is nice to hear that

1138
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: versus the other stories we're.

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Speaker 1: Hearing on the show.

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Speaker 2: So look, I love the fact that you and I

1141
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 2: are able to spend more than an hour talking about

1142
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: what we did oc Teddy's drama, Potomac, sal Leg City.

1143
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: We brought up some of New York stuff, but we

1144
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: probably let you go. We probably let you go. Real

1145
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 2: Housewaves in New York City is having.

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Speaker 3: Not great season, I mean, the worst season in housewives

1147
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 3: history possibly.

1148
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Speaker 2: And a lot of people have been saying that a

1149
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 2: lot of people have been saying that last question for you,

1150
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 2: was this reboot a mistake?

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01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: Oh?

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01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely. It is so bad and it's funny watching

1153
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 3: like watching Potomac. That shows how you make a show light,

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01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 3: Like that's light done right, like when you lighten up

1155
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 3: a show and make it fun. And they obviously with

1156
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 3: Ronnie they're like, yeah, let's make Ronnie light again. And

1157
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 3: they went so far in the other direction where it

1158
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 3: is so boring. I mean, you've got that what's the

1159
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 3: annoying one that's always like horny and floating with Brin

1160
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: and she's just lying on camera to make drama like

1161
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 3: she's just going, oh, this one said that about you

1162
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 3: and it never happened. And then they just laugh about

1163
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 3: it like nothing is happening. What I think they should

1164
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 3: do is I think they should do. I mean, look,

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01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 3: I think they should just cancel it, but they won't

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01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 3: because it's like it has too much of a legacy name.

1167
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 3: Whereas I feel like I feel like it probably does

1168
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 3: okay like streaming wise, like internationally and everything just overall

1169
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 3: because of their brand of Rony. But I think between

1170
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 3: this season and next season, I think they should do

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01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 3: an Ultimate Girls Trip with the old a mix of

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01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 3: the old cast and the new cast. And I just

1173
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 3: think that would be fun and I think it would

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01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 3: kind of like it would show us maybe a different

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01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 3: side of some of the new Girls. And then I

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01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 3: think going into the third season, it needs a major

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01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 3: retooling because it's just not working. I know that Bravaro

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01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 3: probably doesn't want to go backwards and bring back, you know,

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Speaker 3: old people, but they've got to do something because it's

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Speaker 3: so bad.

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01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: That's the only I think that's the only way it

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01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: can work. I think you have to bring back someone OG's.

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01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 2: I think you have to sort of one thing Rob

1184
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 2: was fantastic at is always surprising us with great.

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Speaker 1: Changes. You know.

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Speaker 2: Look, I think the Valley is a good example of

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01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 2: a show that came back with some complicated and controversial

1188
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 2: stars and people love the show. So I think it's

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01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 2: time to bring some of the oji's back. I think

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Speaker 2: Luanne is great, Sonya's great.

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01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 3: They wouldn't hang out with like, it's not their friend group.

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01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing. That's the thing. I think. This

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Speaker 2: is my opinion. I think you're rid of all the

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01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 2: new girls. I'm just I'm not interested in any of

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01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 2: their personal stories and I'm not invested, do you know

1196
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, I yeah, there's not one of

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Speaker 2: them and they're all like great people.

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Speaker 1: So that's that.

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Speaker 2: But as a viewer, I'm not rushing home to watch

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Speaker 2: something that I just can't get enough of.

1201
01:03:55,320 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: They don't have that ability to carry the show anymore.

1202
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 3: What they kind of needed. I mean, obviously this could

1203
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 3: never happen because she's suing Bravo. If Leah had ensued Bravo,

1204
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 3: I really think that, Like if you're just throwing Lea

1205
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 3: in the first season, I think, and maybe like one

1206
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 3: other one, like if you just kept like I mean,

1207
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 3: I know that Tinsley's left, but it was just like

1208
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 3: Lea and Luan or something, and then some of these

1209
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 3: new girls, like Ci, I think is good. I think

1210
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 3: Aaron's good, Like I think they could have made it work.

1211
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 3: They just needed I don't know, but it's it's just bad.

1212
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 3: And some of the girls are interesting on their own,

1213
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Speaker 3: Like I actually do think that Aaron. I do like Aaron,

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01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 3: and I do like Ci. I think they're kind of

1215
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 3: the two breakouts, but the rest can go. I mean,

1216
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 3: Brin girl, like I cannot.

1217
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: I love brand first season, but I think what happened

1218
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 2: is which happens with a lot of girls. She became

1219
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 2: a caricature of herself because she played up into what

1220
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: the audience wanted to see or what she thought they

1221
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 2: wanted to see, and she wasn't being herself. And that's

1222
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 2: sort of like the destruction of a second season reality star.

1223
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah it's I mean, I'm very curious just to see,

1224
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 3: from like a business production standpoint, what are you guys

1225
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 3: going to do? Because they can't just bring this cast

1226
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 3: back for a third season, Like the ratings are in

1227
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 3: the toilet and everyone hates it, so like they're going

1228
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 3: to do something, I just have no idea what it

1229
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 3: will be. And it's just the roney Ogs. They're kind

1230
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 3: of too old to mix with this crowd except Leah

1231
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 3: who's suing Bravo or Ebonie. Like Lea and Ebnie aren't

1232
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 3: coming back, So.

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Speaker 1: What do you do?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, well look, you and I will be

1236
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 2: the first one to talk about it once a decision

1237
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: is made. So thank you Jock Bird stepping into the

1238
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 2: podcast to talk to me once again. Let the rain

1239
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 2: drops know where they can support your podcast on Patreon

1240
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 2: and also follow you on social media.

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01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 3: Yes, follow me on Instagram, guys at Popular JP and

1242
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 3: then my link tree is there with my Patreon. I

1243
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 3: do a weekly Patreon episode and it's just a lot

1244
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 3: of housewives stuff and I have a chat in there,

1245
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 3: so if you want to like, leave comments, so leave

1246
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 3: you know, questions or want any tea like I'm spilling

1247
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 3: it there. So yeah, I'm Popular JP. Check me out there.

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01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 3: Thanks guys, All.

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01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 2: Right, thank you Jock and I'll see you the next time.

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01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 3: Bye.

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