1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: This is the Bloomberg Daybake podcast, available every morning on Apple, 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Spotify or wherever you listen. It's Wednesday, the first of 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: May in London. I'm Caroline Hipkip. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: And I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today. Expectations grow that 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve will today signal a delay to rate cuts. 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: Japan's yen tovention fizzles in the face of dollar strength. 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: Plus Sunak's comeback bid. The Prime Minister does his best 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: to avoid a catastrophic result in tomorrow's local elections. 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: The Federal Reserve is expected to hold rates today and 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: signal no plans for cuts in the near future. Bloomberg 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: Economics also believes Charge your Own Pal will adopt a 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: notably more hawkish tone in his comments following the decision. 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: The expected hawkish pivot comes after a series of hotter 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: than expected inflation and economic data led traders to unwind 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: bets on multiple cuts in the coming months. The former 17 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: Reserve Bank of India governor Ragor and Rajan says FED 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: policymakers got ahead of themselves at recent meetings. 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 3: The fact that we are in a very uncertain world 20 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: that we've switched from soft landing to hard landing to 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: no landing and back. I think that would suggest a 22 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: little bit of caution when the FED tries to predict 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: the future, and it should, I mean, with hindsight, have 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 3: basically stayed with the We will know when enough is 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: enough and we can start cutting, but right now we're 26 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 3: not going to make strong predictions. 27 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: Ragora Rajan also hinted that the FED may need to 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: raise rates in future if data continues to come in 29 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: hotter than expected. We'll bring you the right decision live 30 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: here on Bloomberg at seven pm London time, with chargerown 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: Pals press conference thirty minutes later. 32 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: Interest rates remaining high in the US will continue to 33 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: drive strength in the dollar. On Monday, that appears to 34 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: have forced Japanese authorities to intervene to pop up the 35 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: yen for the first time since twenty twenty two. Bank 36 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: of Japan accounts analyzed by Bloomberg suggests intervention did take place. 37 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Garfield Reynolds says failing to step in could have 38 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: left authorities with a number of problems. 39 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 4: With the reverse argument would be what they hadn't intervened, 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 4: and you were starting from one hundred and sixty or 41 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 4: more yen per dollar, then who knows where you could 42 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 4: end up. One hundred and seventy would come into play 43 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 4: pretty rapidly, and that's the sort of thing that would 44 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 4: have a lot of impact on Japan's economy, on the 45 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 4: political situation. 46 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: Garfield Reynolds, speaking there on Bloomberg Television, recent yen swings 47 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: might be an indicator of worse to come, as the 48 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: Federal Reserve looks unlikely to cut interest rates during today's 49 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: policy setting meeting. Pressure on the currency could build even 50 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: further if fedchaed your own power takes that hawkish tonally 51 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: mentioned this evening, New. 52 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: York City police serage down to Columbia University's campus overnight, 53 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: arresting pro Palestinian demonstrators who'd barrow caided themselves into a building. 54 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: According to reports, dozens of people were detained and loaded 55 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 2: onto busses as chance continued, sir, who do you protect? 56 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 5: Sir? 57 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 6: Who do you protect? Sir? 58 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: Those were protesters at the scene, chanting. Their university leaders 59 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: said in a statement that they were left with no 60 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: choice but to call authorities. After Columbia's own security personnel 61 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: were forced out of the building. The police action capped 62 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: two weeks of rising tention at the university, which some 63 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: more than one hundred arrests. On April eighteenth. 64 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: Chancellor Jeremy Hunt has publicly criticized the UK regulators plans 65 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: to name and shame companies that it's investigating in a 66 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: rare political intervention. Hunt said that he hopes the Financial 67 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: Conduct Authority will relook at their decision after an industry backlash. 68 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: The Financial Watchdog says that firms and consumers would benefit 69 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: from knowing which issues are in the watchdog's sites, but 70 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: the FCA says that plans are still at the consultation stage. 71 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: Amazon's cloud unit posted its strongest sales growth in a year. 72 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: The first quarter results are assigned. Businesses are starting to 73 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: spend more on tech projects, partly driven by AI demand. 74 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Ed Ludlow explains. 75 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 7: The strategy is basically to be a place where other 76 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 7: companies who are interested in AI can build whatever software 77 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 7: it is they want on aws's platforms. 78 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 2: Ludlow ads are the company's fifteen point three billion dollar 79 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 2: operating profit is also down to CEO Andy Jase's cost 80 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 2: cutting program. Despite that Amazon's main e commerce business slightly 81 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: missing analysts estimates as consumers tried to save money. 82 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: And here in the UK, Isshsunak has urged supporters to 83 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: take part in the quote greatest comeback in political history, 84 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: as he trails badly behind in the polls. Bloomberg understands 85 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: that the Conservative leader attempted a rallying speech. Party campaign 86 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: is ahead of local elections tomorrow. Bloomberg's James Orcock has. 87 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 5: More since the nineteen nineties, if the opposition had been 88 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 5: ahead in the polls by more than five percentage points 89 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 5: a year out of the general election, they've taken over government. 90 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 5: Labor are currently twenty points ahead. So when Rischie Sunak 91 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 5: talks about the greatest comeback, that is the political gravity 92 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 5: he's trying to overcome. His remarks are also a tacit 93 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 5: admission of the electoral clobbering is expected to take in 94 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 5: Thursday's local elections, which some Conservatives think may then be 95 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 5: used to try and to seat him in London. James 96 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 5: Orcock Bloomberg Radio. 97 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: Well, in the moment, we're going to look ahead to 98 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: the federal reserve rate decision and also to tomorrow's local elections. 99 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: In England and Wales that James was discussing. But of 100 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: course there's always a few stories that have caught Ri 101 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: on the Bloomberg terminal this morning, and I think this 102 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: one's quite close to home for you, Stephen. 103 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 7: Yeah. 104 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 2: As of today, Ireland has no listed companies with the 105 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: female CEO. That's after the CEO of Irish Residential Properties 106 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: Reach PLC, margaretsween You retired yesterday, so she's been replaced 107 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: by a man. There are only thirty one list of 108 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: companies on your next exchange in Dublin, but now none 109 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: of them are led by a woman, and that makes 110 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: Ireland among you member states, only joining Luxembourg as having 111 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: no female CEOs of public firms. Now, the levels across 112 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: the EU aren't particularly high, or should we say across 113 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: the world. Europe is an underperforming in this level either, 114 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: but the lack of gender equality at the top of 115 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: companies listed on Ireland Stock Exchange is, according to the 116 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: thirty Percent Club, exacerbated by the fact that it's dominated 117 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: by traditionally male heavy industries like construction. Now it's worth 118 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: saying that representation on boards is improving. At the end 119 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: of November twenty twenty three. Female board representation was at 120 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 2: thirty nine percent in Ireland, which is up from eighteen 121 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: percent just five years previously. That's after a number of 122 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: government level steps that have been taken, and there are 123 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: other areas of the Irish economy that do seeta representation 124 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: of women, particularly the startup scene in particular. But then 125 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: Ireland also has the same listings problem that lots of 126 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: other parts of Europe have as well. Out of these 127 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: companies aren't choosing to list on the Stock Exchange in 128 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: Ireland when they are going public, They're choosing to do 129 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: so in the US, a story that we see in 130 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: lots of other parts. 131 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a very fascinating story and it's 132 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: a really interesting one also about you know, how much 133 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: the goals of government actually seep into business or not. 134 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: So Yeah, a very good story to have a look at. 135 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: On the Bluebig Tunnel this morning. 136 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: Well that's turned back to the Federal Reserve decision. Later, 137 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: officials expected to keep interest rates on hold, but markets 138 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: will be watching to see how your own paler as 139 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: colleagues are reacting to the recent higher than expected inflation data. 140 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: Bloomberg TV anchor Critty Group tos with us to help 141 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: us look ahead to that morning, Critty, can you remind 142 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: us first of all of the key data the FED 143 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: will be considering going into this meeting. 144 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 8: Well, it's so funny because we should be considering the CPI, 145 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 8: that's the no brainer rate, even the PCE which kind 146 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 8: of takes out some of those core costs as well. 147 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 8: Now they have other pieces of data that they have 148 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 8: to take into account. This isn't They can't blame it 149 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 8: on just anomalies. And I think the greatest example of 150 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 8: this is just within the last twenty four hours, the 151 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 8: employment costs index over in the States coming in really 152 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 8: really hot. Now, for those of you who aren't familiar 153 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 8: with kind of this data set, it's what the name's just. 154 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 8: An employment cost index is quite literally the kind of 155 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 8: amalgamation of what costs look like from a more wage 156 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 8: perspective across the fifty states. Now, this number came in 157 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 8: hot because wages are rising in the States, and we 158 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 8: know that we kind of knew that was going to 159 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 8: happen with a lot of these minimum wage decisions that 160 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 8: have been made across I think like twenty five states 161 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 8: or so out of fifty, So we knew that there 162 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 8: was going to be this push anyway. The problem is 163 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 8: the numbers came as significantly hotter than we'd expected just 164 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 8: from those minimum wage increases. So that's where you're starting 165 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 8: to see a little bit of kind of spooking in 166 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 8: the markets. And then you saw a real market reaction 167 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 8: off of that data because it suggests that some of 168 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 8: the inflationary numbers that we're seeing are not one offs. 169 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 8: You are seeing the spread across the economy. You're seeing 170 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 8: it spread across regions more importantly, and that's a really 171 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 8: important piece of this equation because now the Federal Reserve 172 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 8: can look at the state and say, this is not 173 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 8: just goods driven inflation, services driven inflation, and this is 174 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 8: wage driven inflation, when for years they were really trying 175 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 8: to combat the inflationary story because weges weren't keeping up. 176 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So how likely is that then to play into 177 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: the press conference and into the statement and the decision making. 178 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 8: Well, I imagine he'll be asked about that in the 179 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 8: press conference, specifically in terms of what the data points 180 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 8: he's actually looking at. 181 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 6: Caroline. 182 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 8: The very ends, even the very first questions that you 183 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 8: guys asked me, simply because they are known famously to 184 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 8: only kind of really zero in on that PCE deflator number. 185 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 8: So now that they're seeing different pieces of it, is 186 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 8: this still a commodity driven story? Is this a kind 187 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 8: of labor market story still? Or do we need to 188 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 8: look at other pieces of the policy tools? So if 189 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 8: we're not looking at rate decisions, do we need to 190 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 8: look at QT for example? Do we need to look 191 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 8: at what's going on with the treasury? Is election risk 192 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 8: even relevant to the Fed? They'll say no, but I 193 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 8: imagine they'll be pressed on it regardless. 194 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: Anythink as that markets'll be watching that. 195 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 8: For Definitely, the story on the QT is important, but 196 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 8: I think the treasury may be more important. And there's 197 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 8: a lot of questions about the deficit story. There's a 198 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 8: lot of questions, But how that's kind of seeking or 199 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 8: I should say creeping up? I think is the worth 200 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 8: of looking for creeping up? The coffe hasn't quite hit yet, 201 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 8: Bear with me creeping up on a lot of investors 202 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 8: simply because it has a lot to do with treasury 203 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 8: supply and it has to do with these buyback announcements. Remember, 204 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 8: before we get the FED decision, we also get that 205 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 8: refunding announcement. From the Treasury literally thirty minutes prior. So 206 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 8: you're going to see the markets be very bouncy this 207 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 8: morning in terms or this afternoon you say, in terms 208 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 8: of how they are reacting to what the government is doing. 209 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 8: But we actually had a guest onm Blomber TV said 210 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 8: this very eloquently that it might just be Janet Yellen 211 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 8: who may be more in charge of policy. 212 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 6: Than j Powell. 213 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 8: And that seems to be the going concern at least 214 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 8: in terms of what investors are really watching. 215 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, and another piece to that, big reaction expected 216 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: potentially in the s and P at least Film City, 217 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: biggest FED day move, that's the expectation. So it's really 218 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 1: going to be hotly watched. The decision at seven pm 219 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: London time, the press conference half an hour later, Pritty 220 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: groups of Bloomberg's TV and can thank you so much 221 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: for being with us. 222 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: Well here in the UK, voters will be going to 223 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: the polls tomorrow in England and Wales in local mayoral 224 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: and police and Crime commissioner elections tomorrow, some of which 225 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: are seen as a bellwether for the Conservative Party's prospects 226 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: at a general election. We're expecting later this year with 227 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: the details, We've got Bloomberg's UK correspondent Lizzie Burden with 228 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: us in studio Morning Lizzie. So for the Conservative Party, then, 229 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: what are the key goals that they'll be hoping for. 230 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: What are they going to be looking out for when 231 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: it comes to what could inter be interpreted as a 232 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: win or a big last for them? 233 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 9: Will you talk about these local elections as a barometer 234 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 9: for the general There are two elements that define the 235 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 9: point at which Sunak's team around him and the wider 236 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 9: party will lose hope of staying in power beyond the general. 237 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 6: First of all, do the Conservatives. 238 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 9: Lose half of the just under a one thousand seats 239 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 9: that they won in twenty twenty one across local councils? 240 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 9: And secondly, do they hold on to Andy Street, the 241 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 9: Tory mayor in the West Midlands and Ben Houchin, the 242 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 9: Tory mayor in Tees Valley, because those two mayors really 243 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 9: represent the party's ability to compete in labor facing areas. Now, 244 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 9: the latest yug of polling actually suggests that bit Street 245 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 9: and Houchin are going to cling on and that would 246 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 9: be a major victory for Rishi Sunak because it would 247 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 9: calm the nerves about the general election being some sort 248 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 9: of extinction event. 249 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 6: But on point one, this could still be a bloodbath 250 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 6: for the Conservatives. M okay. 251 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: Will the local election result then put Labor on course 252 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: to win the general election? How much of a kind 253 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: of wind in the sales of what is already a 254 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: pretty speedy Labor boat. 255 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, very much on that course already, aren't they. 256 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 9: Sunak's really failed to put a dent in Labour's twenty 257 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 9: point pole league, despite the fall in inflation and the 258 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 9: turnaround in growth. 259 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 6: His advisors say. 260 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 9: That last week was his best in off, But the 261 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 9: problem is he hasn't been able to sustain a positive 262 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 9: news cycle since getting the keys to number ten, and 263 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 9: therefore he's failed to placate the right wing of his party. 264 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 9: Even when he's been preaching to the choir, you know, 265 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 9: with policies like deporting asylum seekers to Rwanda, he still 266 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 9: hasn't managed to keep the likes of Penny Mordant happy. 267 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 9: And while he's had this ongoing failure to launch, at 268 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 9: the same time, the opposition Labor leader Kirs Starmer, has 269 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 9: just had another boost because Scotland's first Minister Humsa Yusuf 270 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 9: has resigned. Now north of the border, Labour's only managed 271 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 9: to get one seat in the. 272 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 6: Twenty fifteen and twenty nineteen general. 273 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 9: Elections, but now with the SMP pretty much rudderless, things 274 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 9: are looking up for Labor in Scotland and it means 275 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 9: that the path to Downing Street for kir Starmer looks 276 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 9: even clearer, and it seems it's going to run through Scotland. 277 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: Could these local election results be a cat lists though 278 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: for the Tory Party actually ousting Richie Sunak as their leader. 279 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 9: Well, Sunak's critics on the Tory right are really going 280 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 9: to use any bad result in these local elections as 281 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 9: evidence to argue the only way to win the general 282 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 9: is to change leader, because otherwise they'll have a total wipeout. 283 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 9: But even if he does get hammered in these local elections, 284 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 9: he could actually stay in number ten because remember, there's 285 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 9: no obvious candidate to replace him and the Conservatives are 286 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 9: already on their third prime minister since Boris Johnson won 287 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 9: the twenty. 288 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 6: Nineteen general election. 289 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 9: The thing is, Conservative party rules mean that the rebels 290 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 9: only need just over fifty letters from Tory MPs to 291 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 9: trigger a no confidence vote in the party leader, so 292 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 9: Richie Sunac cannot take his place for granted. 293 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 6: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. 294 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: You're morning brief on the stories making news from London 295 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: to Wall Street and beyond. 296 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apple, Spotify, 297 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 298 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: You can also listen live each morning on London Dab Radio, 299 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 300 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 301 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa devices. 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