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Speaker 1: What is up everybody? Welcome to the Good Viest Charge Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by the Chargers Podcast Network. We have a special

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Speaker 1: show today, so as always, my name is Stephen and

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Speaker 1: I am the host, but we got to start with

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Speaker 1: mister Daniel Popper from The Athletic who covers the Chargers. Daniel,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us today, man, how are you doing today?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. I'm doing great. There's a there's

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Speaker 2: a different air about the podcast now. I just I

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Speaker 2: feel like I was there when you guys were getting

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Speaker 2: this thing off the ground, and I just I just

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Speaker 2: want to say congratulations to you guys for for everything

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Speaker 2: that you've accomplished. I know you got both you guys

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Speaker 2: and everyone involved with the podcast. You guys work really hard,

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Speaker 2: and I just I'm grateful that I've been able to

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Speaker 2: be a little piece of it as you guys.

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Speaker 3: Have worked your way up.

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Speaker 2: But I just wanted to say, off the top, congratulations

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Speaker 2: to everyone involved with the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thank you man, sincerely. That's that's very appreciated. You know,

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Speaker 1: we've uh kind of covered the charters around the same

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Speaker 1: time frame. You know, you obviously coming over from Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: and you know, so you were one of our first

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Speaker 1: guests on the show, and we appreciate your time always

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Speaker 1: and today, you know, making time for us after the

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Speaker 1: Charters Charity golf tournament, so you know you were over

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Speaker 1: there covering.

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Speaker 3: That and we're here.

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Speaker 1: Did you hit or did you just cover? Now?

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Speaker 2: We just I wrote around on a golf cart and

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Speaker 2: watched all of the players swinging their clubs. Well, I

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Speaker 2: didn't have to swing a club a single time and

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Speaker 2: avoided any embarrassment involved with that.

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Speaker 1: So that's good. That's the best way to play golf.

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Speaker 3: Something. Take yourself, not playing and only observing that. I agree.

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Speaker 1: Fun stuff, man, fun stuff. Tyler's here as well as

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Speaker 1: always Tyler, what's that man? How are you doing today?

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Speaker 4: Doing very well and just talking about everything about the

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Speaker 4: podcast and whatnot. I have to mention Argin here and

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Speaker 4: his big news today. He's a football analytics intern with

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Speaker 4: the New York Football Jets.

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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't a guess that happening so fast because we we

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Speaker 4: just asked him two years ago, hey do you want

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Speaker 4: to make some analytics videos for us?

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Speaker 5: And now he's working with the New York Jets.

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Speaker 4: So not bad, and I appreciate him for being a

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Speaker 4: part of our journey as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, big shout out to Arjen crushing it out there.

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Speaker 1: We're very excited for him on that next step as well.

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Speaker 1: So we have a fun show planned for you guys

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Speaker 1: today and excited to have pop A on with us

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Speaker 1: for the whole show. Before we get started, as always,

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Speaker 1: we do have to clarify that Tyler and I are

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Speaker 1: fans first and foremost, we are independent content creators for

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. We do not share the opinions of the organization,

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Speaker 1: and the things that we express today are not reflective

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Speaker 1: of that. Instead, they are our own opinions first and foremost,

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Speaker 1: So excited to dive in today. Before we get started

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Speaker 1: on the meat of our show, we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: to mister Popper about some things that came out from

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Speaker 1: the Chargers Charity golf course today. First and foremost with

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Speaker 1: the news that the Chargers have ongoing conversation with Justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert around his contract extension. Of course, that's nothing necessarily

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Speaker 1: Popper here who's done a great job covering that potential

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Speaker 1: obviously seen some extensions from other quarterbacks since your last

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Speaker 1: article about Justin Herbert's contract extension, most notably obviously Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts from this same quarterback class. So, Daniel, where are

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Speaker 1: you at in terms of potential time frame here and

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Speaker 1: in terms of like, has the number maybe changed for

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Speaker 1: we've had those other contracts come out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I wrote a little bit about the Herbert contract situation

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Speaker 3: That's based where the market's at right now.

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Speaker 2: I think the bigger discussion is how much you know

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Speaker 3: Those are two separate things.

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Speaker 2: Fully guaranteed signing means that's the money that he is

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, listen, they're they're they're negotiating

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Speaker 2: These are very very difficult contracts to negotiate because it's

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Speaker 3: So like is that a factor in it?

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Speaker 2: So it's very complex, but like he's gonna get paid,

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Speaker 2: like I don't think there's a whole lot of variability

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Speaker 2: Like the conclusion is set, like the Chargers are going

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Speaker 2: And it's just a matter of ironing out that contract.

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Speaker 2: That the talks are going to be ongoing, you know,

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Speaker 2: So nothing really new there. The big for me, like

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Speaker 3: The market is what it is.

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Speaker 2: You have to pay him what the market says, and

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Speaker 3: But I think him getting back on the field.

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Speaker 2: And team drills is a huge deal considering, you know,

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Speaker 4: What seems to be the workload for him heading into

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the way he described it today is that there's

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Speaker 2: Everything, but you know, currently in line to be participating

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Speaker 3: I think it'll be great for him to get some

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Speaker 2: You know, it's not full full speed, it's only seven

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got some new toys to play with this

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Speaker 1: Just in terms of time frame, I'm obviously you seem

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Speaker 1: Is this more of a Derwin Keenan situation in terms

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's always the potential that it goes into

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Speaker 2: he's gonna operate. He's going to leave it up to

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Speaker 2: sort of how how negotiations are going, because you know,

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Speaker 3: Share that type of information.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's gonna I think it'll probably push

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Speaker 3: I think it'll be something similar to that.

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Speaker 2: You know, but even even with the Drwin deal, right

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Speaker 2: like he's he's holding in you know, that deal was

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Speaker 2: like structure wise, did not deviate very far during the Holden.

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Speaker 2: It's not like there was some like like watershed moment

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Speaker 2: not hard to figure out like the big picture stuff

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Speaker 2: with these contracts, right Like Derwin wanted to be the

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Speaker 4: I know there's all those qualifiers because yes, shorts and

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be digs, digs, slants, comebacks, and posts, like,

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Speaker 1: There we go. So some great stuff there from mister

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Speaker 1: Danga Popper. Uh covering ot as again, if you are

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no big surprises on my end.

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Speaker 4: I know our opinions don't always reflect those of the Chargers,

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Speaker 5: And I'm taking Justin.

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Speaker 4: Herbert first here. I'll respect everybody else on the roster.

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Speaker 4: I'll take that Justin Herbert guy.

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Speaker 1: He seems to be okay, yeah, pretty decent, pretty decent,

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Speaker 5: He will not hold out in my.

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Speaker 3: Situation either, So I love it.

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Speaker 2: I will take my turn. I'm going yes, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: He's pretty good too, pretty good too, Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy. Okay, So top two players off the

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Speaker 1: I would take the safety at the center.

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Speaker 3: Is that what you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

439
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,359
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell over here, all right, I will take Joey

440
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,240
Speaker 2: Bosa on the board at five.

441
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, give me that edge rusher and left tackle.

442
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, to the two most premium positions behind quarterback.

443
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 1: What are you What do you make of Joey coming

444
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,000
Speaker 1: back off of the injury last year? I know, obviously

445
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,720
Speaker 1: a lot of charges fans are kind of salty about

446
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 1: the way that his performance ended with the Jaguars game.

447
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 1: So what what do you expect of Joey this? Yeah?

448
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 3: I mean it's gonna come down to if he can

449
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:04,399
Speaker 3: stay healthy.

450
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 2: But if he's healthy, he's a top ten all around

451
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 2: ed rusher in the league, like consistently, you know, you know,

452
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 2: I I think this is just based off what he said,

453
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 2: and Joey's always very honest, and he said that like

454
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 2: he was dealing with significant issues in his growing area

455
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 2: abdomen however you want to describe it, right, like all

456
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 2: those abductor muscles, and you know, he'd been dealing with

457
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,640
Speaker 2: chronic pain, like severe, significant chronic pain that affected how

458
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,400
Speaker 2: he performed on the field, but also how he could

459
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 2: work out in the off season everything you know, you know,

460
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 2: getting out of bed, you know, walking around all that.

461
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 3: Kind of stuff, you know was painful.

462
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 2: And he said that after the surgery was done and

463
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,479
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of that pain was gone. And

464
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 2: so like in theory, if he's being honest about all that,

465
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 2: like in theory, like he should be a really fresh

466
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 2: version of himself and that that's like very exciting because

467
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 2: he's an outstanding, outstanding player. Like losing him last year

468
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 2: was huge because the whole I think the whole vision

469
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 2: behind the defense was, you know, they're gonna have to

470
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 2: double either Joey or Khalil, and that was going to

471
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 2: open things up for the guy on the other side,

472
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Speaker 2: and that's just we never got to see that, Like,

473
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 2: we just never got to see that, you know. And

474
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Speaker 2: so I think they have a deeper group and I

475
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Speaker 2: would expect big things from him just based on you know,

476
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 2: what he said in terms of how the groin surgery

477
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 2: sort of affected his long term prognosis health wise.

478
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 1: There we go. So for our audio audience, we have

479
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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert Rashaan Slater, Derwin, James, Corey Lindsley, and Joey

480
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 1: Bosa off the board at Tyler again gets to snaky here,

481
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 1: so you get back to back picks here, Tyler, where

482
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Speaker 1: are you going with your second pick?

483
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, going defense here would be probably the smart thing

484
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 4: to do, but I think it's infinitely more hilarious to

485
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 4: leave you guys rudderless. So I'm gonna go Keenan Allen

486
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 4: and Mike Williams right here, and we're gonna throw it.

487
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,959
Speaker 4: The age is definitely a concern, of course, and that's

488
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 4: why I didn't take them. I wouldn't have taken them,

489
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Speaker 4: I mean really in that order. The first five guys

490
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 4: probably taken before them, but at this point, I couldn't

491
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 4: separate Allen from Herbert, and then I don't want the

492
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 4: wide receiver group to dry up. I do know a

493
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 4: lot more about these guys than Quentin Johnson. Yes, I'm

494
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 4: very happy for him, but you know, there's a reason

495
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 4: he felt a twenty one. There's a reason he wasn't

496
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 4: ranked one, two, maybe even three in the draft. So

497
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the sure things and pair him with

498
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 4: my quarterback.

499
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: Damn heart decision there.

500
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 5: Hmm you taking two edges here?

501
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 2: Uh?

502
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 5: Daniel?

503
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: I might?

504
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 3: I might? I might. That's what I'm thinking. That's what

505
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 3: I'm thinking. I don't know.

506
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 2: This is because I was gonna go receiver there, so

507
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 2: now I'm thinking about it.

508
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 3: Corner is interesting.

509
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 2: Corner is interesting, and there's one corner I definitely would

510
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 2: take here out of the group that they have. Is

511
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 2: a little early. I'm probably giving away now my draft strategy.

512
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: And then Steven's got two picks coming up. But hey, listen,

513
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 2: all right, we're talking about expansion team premium positions. Okay,

514
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 2: if I'm starting and I can't get the quarterback off

515
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 2: the roster, if I'm starting a team and I can

516
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 2: get a lockdown all pro left tackle and a dominant

517
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: Edgresher pairing to start my expansion team.

518
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 3: That sounds great to me. So I will be taking

519
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 3: Khalil Mack here round.

520
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 4: Nice nice, Steven's Jesus, very cool. You took the center, man,

521
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 4: I know I did. I'm very happy with.

522
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 3: Study. This is a case study and positional value here

523
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 3: for Steven.

524
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: I'll take my my expansion money and go sign Jadavian

525
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 1: Clowney or something like that in this.

526
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, Cameron Dicker's next, go.

527
00:23:54,400 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: For it, Cameron, Hey, not that much. Okay, let's see here.

528
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 1: I'm curious. You know, Daniel is over here talking about

529
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: corners already. So I'm thinking about or the mental game.

530
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: First psychology, trying to get you to take a corner

531
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 2: so that I can get the guy I really want.

532
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

533
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you're not getting the corner if you're waiting

534
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 4: on one, because I'm taking with it.

535
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: Well, I have two picks here, so that's that's.

536
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: What I'm tick and then I'm coming before and then

537
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 2: I picked before Tyler again.

538
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: Okay, I I'm going to value the rookie contracts here.

539
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 1: I have two very expensive first picks, so I am

540
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: going to go with Clinton Johnston here, understanding that this

541
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: is maybe a risk for for this time slot, but

542
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: I want to make sure I don't end up with,

543
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: you know, the a dire receiver situation, with potentially my

544
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: quarterback situation. Okay, and then I'm going back to the

545
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: non premium position. Well, I'm taking Zion Johnson. I want

546
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: to make sure I have a great offensive line. Those

547
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: loyal listeners of the show. No, I loved Zion Johnson

548
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: coming out, so I guess that should not be a

549
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: surprise plane to the brand here. So I get Johnston

550
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: and Johnson back to back.

551
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna take my corner here. I'm going with

552
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 3: Vato Davis.

553
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: Oh m hm.

554
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 3: I don't I. I you know, J. C.

555
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 2: Jackson obviously would be the other consideration here, but I

556
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: just worry about that injury and what he's going to

557
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 2: look like like you could very easily be the same player.

558
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: But if we're picking right now, I'm gonna take a

559
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: guy who I think really established himself as a premier

560
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: number one corner last year in the second half of

561
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 2: the season, and a guy who you know, we'll see

562
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 2: last year of his deal.

563
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 3: We'll see what kind of money he makes.

564
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: But you know, I think, like my thought process is,

565
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 2: as an expansion team, you're going in and you have

566
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 2: whatever two hundred and change million to spend on players.

567
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 2: I think getting quality players is a little bit higher

568
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 2: value for me than look for those.

569
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 3: Types of good deals with the rookie deals. That's my

570
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 3: thought process now.

571
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: And he's he's a bargain on the free agent market

572
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: when you're looking at how much he's making.

573
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 3: For this season. Yeah, for this season. Absolutely, We'll see

574
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 3: what he makes on the open market.

575
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,239
Speaker 2: If he has another year like he did, Like, if

576
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: he can put together a full season of what he

577
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: did in the second half last year, then he's gonna

578
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: make a good chunk of change in the open market,

579
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: I think.

580
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 3: But we'll see one hundred percent.

581
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: We talked a lot about that resurgence down the stretch

582
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: for him on our show last year. All right, Tyler again,

583
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: you get your fourth and fifth fifth selections here where

584
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: your where's your head at right now?

585
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 3: Yea.

586
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 4: I'll try to keep it reasonable with the contracts. So

587
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 4: I'll go as Sante Samuel Junior over J C. Jackson

588
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 4: because of the contract, and then I will go Trey

589
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 4: Pipkins at right tackle.

590
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 3: That was my next pick.

591
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: I gotta expand the sheet a little bit, all right,

592
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: mister Trey Pipkins coming off the board.

593
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 5: So I have guessed that a year ago. I'll tell

594
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 5: you that right now.

595
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: That all right, paper, where you headed here?

596
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: I don't know yet.

597
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: This is probably where it gets a little dicey for sure.

598
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm taking Austin Eckler in the fifth round. And

599
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: here's my thought process. Thirty eight touchdowns in the last

600
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: two seasons.

601
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 5: That's a lot.

602
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: That's the whole that's the whole process. Money, I guess,

603
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: so I obviously need offensive weapons and playmakers. I personally

604
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: think obviously what happened this offseason happened, right. You know,

605
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: Austin wanted more money. Chargers said, feel free to go

606
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 2: find it if you could find it. He went on

607
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: the open market, couldn't find it. Still a really productive

608
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,239
Speaker 2: player who brings a lot to the table, and in

609
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: my opinion, has at least two really good seasons left

610
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: before we start to see that drop off. And I

611
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 2: could be wrong, but you know, you're talking about a

612
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: guy that can affect the game in a number of

613
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: different ways. And I think, you know, considering I have

614
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: zero pass catchers on my roster right now.

615
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 3: I think he'd and no one to throw them the ball.

616
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I needed to go for effectively the

617
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 2: best offensive weapon left, and that was Austin.

618
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 1: So there you go. Now that makes sense. You're just

619
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: going to recreate the twenty twenty two charters offense and

620
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: throw him one hundred and ten targets again.

621
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the plan.

622
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the plan. All right. Well, I want to

623
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: make a better protection, yes, hopefully, hopefully. I want to

624
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: make sure I don't get left in the cold with

625
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: the cornerback market. So I'm going to take a bet

626
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: on j. C. Jackson's recovery and hope we can get

627
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: him back to that premium corner performance that we saw

628
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: before his injury with the Patriots. And then next pick here,

629
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the offensive line. So

630
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: Tyler took all the receivers, I'm taking all the offensive linemen,

631
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: and I'm going to go with jam Sawyer And he

632
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: might just be he might just play offensive tackle for

633
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: me in this situation. I'm not sure.

634
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, he's he's absolutely a starting right tackle on

635
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: an expansion team, no doubt.

636
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: Maybe even Yeah, he might even play left tackle for

637
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: your teams.

638
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe. Well, I guess we'll see if I can

639
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: go steal somebody else on the free agent market.

640
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 4: You keep talking free agents like that's a thing we

641
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 4: can actually do. Like, yes, I know, I'm just like,

642
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 4: you know, just playing with a bit.

643
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: Yeah hmmm.

644
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: Mm hmmmmmmmm mm hmm. Okay, I will go. Mm hmm.

645
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: This is tough because I feel like I feel like

646
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: I need a receiver. I feel like I feel like

647
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: a receiver. All right, yeah, okay, I will go. I'll go.

648
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 4: Josh Palmer, all right, there was no shot I was

649
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 4: taking one, by the way, So yeah, I.

650
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: Just Steven could come back. I just yeah, I guess

651
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: I could have gotten them around later. You never know, though,

652
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: I mean you from the get go, you were just

653
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: trying to create chaos.

654
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 5: It would have been funny.

655
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could have.

656
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: Very easily this Pickmen like, well, I'm just trying to

657
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: make popps like games, So listen, I'm focused on myself.

658
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: I'm not focused on anybody else. I'm looking for the

659
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: best player available.

660
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: And great, great draft talk right there for sure. Yeah

661
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: all right, Tiler're back to back picks again.

662
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 5: Okay, cheaper contract.

663
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: I'll make you type it to lead to whippo to

664
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 4: I do need an edge player here, and I'm worried

665
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 4: about them running out, so I'll make sure I get him,

666
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 4: and to solidify my pass rush, I will add Morgan

667
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 4: Fox Nice relatively inexpensive for him, and then the rookie deal.

668
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 5: Actually well technically.

669
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 3: Not on any deal, but yeah, yeah, right.

670
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 4: Again in my franchise is let'll be taken care of tomorrow.

671
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, there you go. All right, so too,

672
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: Lee and Morgan Fox coming off the board here. Popper

673
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: is back on the board in the seventh round for

674
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: his selection.

675
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna invest in the trenches here and go with

676
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: Sebastian Joseph Day Nice. Just a just a really really

677
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: solid player, excellent run defender. I think what he brings

678
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: in terms of leadership in the locker room, on the field,

679
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: his passion, his effort, you know, his pedigree, all of

680
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: those things are would be like a tremendous addition to that.

681
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: This is very serious, but like it would be a

682
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: tremendous addition to uh, like an expansion team. He's the

683
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: type of guy that you want, like you want as

684
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: a captain, the leader of a team.

685
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: So Sebastian Joseph.

686
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: Day, there we go. So defensive line talent drying up

687
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: pretty quick here.

688
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: The interior your d line run round?

689
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, player, do you want Steven?

690
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? That's the thing here is we think Austin Johnson

691
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: is going to be recovering just fine, but you know,

692
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: we don't know their Scott Matt Locke, I think is

693
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: an interesting rookie, but I think I'm probably avoiding interior

694
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: defensive line this way. I don't have any defensive lineman

695
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: right now, so I guess I could.

696
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 3: Take three fifths of an offensive line.

697
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you might as well just collect all the stones, Stephen,

698
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 4: collect all of them, clearly, clearly an offensive line guy,

699
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 4: if that has not been any more clear today.

700
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: So next one here, I'm gonna go back to this

701
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: skill player, and I'm gonna take Gerald Everett. Not necessarily

702
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 1: an elite tight end, but I think he does some

703
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: really good things, and I think he's a tight end

704
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: that you can definitely start in this thing, as we've

705
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: seen our last last couple of seasons with the Chargers

706
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: in Seahawks, where he's kind of like that eight to

707
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: twelve range at tight end. I just want to make

708
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: sure I have a reliable body over there, and then

709
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: next pick here this is this is where I was

710
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: hoping to Lee would drop. That didn't happen. So thanks, Tyler,

711
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: You're welcome. Okay, I I'm gonna take a guy that

712
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: I like who is probably not necessarily looked at as

713
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: like a starter. But I really liked what I saw

714
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 1: from Jesse here Taylor last year. I want to make

715
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: sure I can get some flexibility on defense in my

716
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: secondary since I don't have any defensive linemen and I

717
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: don't love the defensive lineboard at this point. So going

718
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: back to the secondary, well here.

719
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: That was my pick.

720
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 5: It would also been my If that makes you feel better,

721
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 5: there you go.

722
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: What am I gonna do here? So, like, what's the

723
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: premise here? I like, if I don't take a quarterback,

724
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: like what happens.

725
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 5: Everyone gets in mind? Anyway, it doesn't matter.

726
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: Is this like pre draft, Like would have the opportunity

727
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 2: to draft the quarterback like hypothetically right, it would probably

728
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: be before the draft?

729
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

730
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,959
Speaker 2: Or is it like no, this is like you're going

731
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: into the season with ten players on your roster.

732
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: Figure it out.

733
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess we should have solidified that beforehand,

734
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: before we figured out if I had to take Max

735
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: dug in an eastern stick here, Tyler, what do you think? Yeah? Yeah,

736
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: Do we have to take quarterbacks here?

737
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: No?

738
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 5: I guess not, Guys. I thought that's what we were doing.

739
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 5: But we do not have to. That'd be ridiculous.

740
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 4: I think Eckler can throw the palmer, and I think

741
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 4: Durwin can.

742
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 5: Throw to uh To. I don't know Zion for a touchdown.

743
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: I think Gerald Everett was the high school quarterback if

744
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, so he might be mine.

745
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 5: Here you go? Yeah, good Keenan.

746
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 4: Allan's playing safety for me, by the way, my wide receiver.

747
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: Okay, so Bob and I do not have to take

748
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback. But if you like Max, Stegan and Easton's

749
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: take enough. Feel free.

750
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: Okay, this is interesting. This is interesting. We've gotten to

751
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: an interesting point in this exercise. M Now, Okay, I'll

752
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: go through. I'm thinking as I sort of think this

753
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: out live. Okay, don't don't have a safety yet, right,

754
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: so I could take low Gilman. I think he's a

755
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 2: really solid player, still on a rookie deal at this point.

756
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: Don't have a tight end. Could go tight end. I

757
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 2: think Parham would be my pick there. Now, I say

758
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: that out loud, that is actually a decent pick, you know. Alternatively,

759
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: what else I could go dayone Henley? You know, but

760
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: I'd also like, I'm a little bit worried about taking

761
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: guys that I haven't seen play yet at this level. Yeah,

762
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: but I feel like I've got some I've got some

763
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 2: pieces here. I've got interior, defensive line, wide receiver, running back, corner, edge,

764
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 2: offensive line. I'm probably not going to take a backup

765
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 2: offensive lineman, but could go with Will Clap probably better to,

766
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: you know, go in that direction than try and find

767
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 2: one on the open market. Or and this is the

768
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: last one is but going wide receiver, getting some speed

769
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: on my roster, and going with either Jail and Getting

770
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 2: or Darius Davis.

771
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: I guess that obviously depends how you feel Kitan would

772
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: recover from his.

773
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: Injury correct or you know, take a take a shot

774
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: with Kenneth Murray. I feel like my defensive coaches might

775
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: be able to get the most out of.

776
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: The athleticism.

777
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 5: There really good coaches.

778
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: I heard about that, Yeah, really good coaches.

779
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: The best.

780
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: Probert's got Vic Vangie in this in this sentsence.

781
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, okay, all right, okay, I'm taking Donald parm.

782
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 5: All right, awesome, I've just this in this scenario.

783
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: Might as well take a shot there.

784
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've spent enough time taking four straight players who

785
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 4: are relatively inexpensive at least under ten million dollars.

786
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: Eric Kendricks here, Yeah, that was I was thinking him too, So.

787
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 4: At this point I'm gonna go with Eric Kendricks there

788
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 4: at eight get the position value kind of, you know,

789
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 4: But at this point, if I'm this late and he's

790
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 4: not taken yet, I'll go with him.

791
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 5: And then I.

792
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 4: Would like a safety that I can trust, So I'm

793
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 4: going with a low heet Gilman here, who I don't

794
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 4: want to say I'm like higher on the most, but

795
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,959
Speaker 4: I feel like I've appreciated watching him more every single year.

796
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 4: So I finally got someone else to play safety for me.

797
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 4: So I will be single high one corner and uh

798
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 4: you know that a bit.

799
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, We've talked about Alohi Goman a lot on our show,

800
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: especially recently, Daniel, But what do you what do you

801
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: make of the charters safety room right now? With him

802
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: being presumably the starter alongside Derwin and then JT being

803
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: maybe that third guy behind him.

804
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a little thin honestly. You know,

805
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: Aloe played out standing football down the stretch like he was.

806
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: He earned that job over nas for the for the

807
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: Jacksonville game, and I was really impressed with how just

808
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: solid he was, Like, I just didn't see a whole

809
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: ton of mistakes.

810
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: I think he can communicated really well.

811
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: I think he proved that he's a highly intelligent player

812
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: in terms of his ability to read and react both

813
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: you know, pre snap, post nap, all of that kind

814
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: of stuff. Now, my only concern is if they are

815
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: moving Derwin around, which they do right, they're gonna they're

816
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 2: gonna move him into the slot. They're gonna move him

817
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: in to play money and die. That means they're gonna

818
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: have to bring a safety in, right, and so that

819
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: means JT. Woods is going to be that safety in

820
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: sub pack wage is last year that was a LOGI

821
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: And so you know what it tells me is that

822
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: they really believe in their ability to.

823
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 3: Get the most out of JT. Woods. I have to

824
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: see it.

825
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: They've seen him in practice every day, so obviously there's

826
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: something there that's telling them that He's capable of doing

827
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: it from what I've seen in training camp last year

828
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: and then when he got on the field in games

829
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: this year. I haven't seen it yet, but you know,

830
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: we'll have to wait till we get the training camp

831
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: and then get into these preseason games to see if

832
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 2: he's really, you know, taking that next step in terms

833
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: of his ability to tackle, because that's my concern. I

834
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: think he can probably operate in the deep part of

835
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: the field. I think he has those type of ball

836
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 2: skills and that athleticism. But if you can't tackle and

837
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: you are one of the eleven defensive players in the field,

838
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: opposing offenses will find you, like we saw that last

839
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 2: year with the Sante Like they will find you. The

840
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: good offenses and the good schemers will find that player

841
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: and they will force him to tackle. And if he

842
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: can't tackle consistently, you're going to get big gains. And

843
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: so that's really my big concern, and so we'll see,

844
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 2: you know, I think it's I like AlOH, he has

845
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 2: a starting safety next to Derwin. I worry about JT

846
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: as that guy coming in and sub back gages and

847
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: how opposing offenses could potentially exploit that.

848
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, under I think that's really well said. All right,

849
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: round number nine for you, Daniel Popper, where you headed here?

850
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: I don't love how I've gone about the back end

851
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: of this draft. However, I'm going to change that here.

852
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: I I'm gonna take a receiver here. I need a

853
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: little bit of speed, and I got a lot of

854
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 2: faith that that Jalen Gitan's going to come back and

855
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: be a weapon.

856
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: So I yeah, yeah, Jalen Giten.

857
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 4: Do you think they're carrying six wide receivers this year

858
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 4: and then who gets the position spot removed on their

859
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 4: depth start this year?

860
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: I think they will.

861
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 2: I haven't really gotten into my fifty three man projection,

862
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: but if I recall correctly, they did.

863
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 3: They did do six receivers.

864
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: Two years ago when Mike had the ac joint spring

865
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: coming out of training camp, they went with six receivers

866
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: off the bat.

867
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 3: But that's a good question.

868
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: I don't know where they would they would find that spot.

869
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: I have to go look at that roster from two

870
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: seasons ago to see where they found it. It'd probably

871
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: be one less offensive lineman, or it could be one

872
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: less quarterback, right, it could only be two quarterbacks.

873
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 3: But then you have this but you do have this new.

874
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: Rule about having three quarterbacks, right, Yeah, so they might.

875
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 3: They might try and exploit that.

876
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, but like if you really wanted to,

877
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 2: like if you go in with Justin and Easton, that

878
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 2: freeze up that spot. But yeah, I haven't started doing

879
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: my my fifty three man roster calculus yet, still too

880
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: early for that, Tyler.

881
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, defensive tackle obviously an interesting one this year to watch,

882
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: obviously with the injuries and how they get designated yeah

883
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: and things like that. Yeah, speaking of defensive tackle, I'm

884
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 1: going to take the last Chargers defensive starter and take

885
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: Austin Johnson here. I know he's got kind of a

886
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 1: worrisome injury, but you know, it seems a bit more

887
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: positive than some of the other injuries, and you know,

888
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: he's been at practice and things like that. He's been running.

889
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take their best run defender from the

890
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: first eight weeks last year and hope he can be

891
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: healthy heading forward. And then, since I don't have to

892
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: take a quarterback, I'm gonna debate here and just kind

893
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: of think out loud between Joshua Kelly and maybe Chris Rump.

894
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't have a pass rusher yet at all. You know,

895
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: Chris Ruff has been kind of up in Yeah, Chris

896
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: Rump has been up and down. Yeah, definitely a bold move.

897
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: I went more offensive line, so you know, it is

898
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: what it is. Probably should have taken Joey looking back

899
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: at this, but you know, I can't give any So

900
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: just just like positional value, I'm gonna take. I'm gonna

901
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: take Chris Frump and hopefully I can get the most

902
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: out of him and his develop had some weight on

903
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: his frame, get him from a string breing maybe to

904
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: like an asparagus stock or something like that.

905
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: Cool, all right, I would say Joshua Kelly, that was

906
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: my that was my pick here.

907
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: Multiple multiple running.

908
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 2: I say, well, at this point, I'm just thinking like, okay,

909
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 2: who are the best players left?

910
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

911
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: You know, and and to me.

912
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: Like I, I I have been high on Joshua Kelly

913
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: ever since he got drafted.

914
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 3: I I have been I have been the guy right

915
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 3: like because.

916
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: I I just see it, and I think we would

917
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 2: have saw we would have seen him have like a

918
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: big year last year if he didn't get hurt in

919
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: that Broncos game. He was blocking on a kickoff return

920
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: and got rolled up on and sprained his m c

921
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: L and but the week before that was Cleveland and

922
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 2: he had that touchdown in the red zone like he

923
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 2: was running hard, Like I really feel like he was.

924
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 3: He was poised to have a huge year.

925
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: And I just think he's very talented. I think that

926
00:43:54,560 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 2: he's improved significantly as a as a pass protector. And yeah,

927
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: just looking for the best talent I can get at

928
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: the stage, and I think he fits that.

929
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that. You know. Also, I just I

930
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: don't love looking at the second half and seeing the

931
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: usage rate either. So you know, if Joshua Kelly can

932
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: get some more touches, I think you can be more

933
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: valuable than he showed last year. All right, Tyler, you

934
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: got the last pick here? Round us out.

935
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, if you don't need a quarterback, I don't

936
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 4: really need to finish up my offensive line, So I'm

937
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 4: going with Isaiah Spiller. Here, a cheap, expensive player needed

938
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 4: a running back. He's the other guy left, So I'm

939
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 4: going with Isaiah Spiller.

940
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 5: Ah, there you go, there we go.

941
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 1: All right. Tyler is a big believer in Isaiah Spiller.

942
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: This year, Mister Daniel Popper declared him RB two on

943
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 1: this feed a couple of weeks ago.

944
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: Eventually, honestly, I was always confused by the whole I mean,

945
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: obviously Austin coming back changes things, but there was kind

946
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: of this narrative developing online at least that like if

947
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: Austin doesn't come back, like the like they're screwed at

948
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: running back, or like even if Austin comes back, that

949
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: they have to take a running back. Like in the draft,

950
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Isaiah Spiller is like he was twenty years

951
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: old when he got drafted, like they like they literally

952
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: said as soon as they drafted him, they were like, yeah,

953
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 2: this is gonna take it a little bit. Like he's

954
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: very young, he's got to fill out his frame, he's

955
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: got a lot to learn. And then he sprained his

956
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: ankle in the preseason, like right when he was starting

957
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 2: to like play, he hurt his ankle, and you know

958
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 2: that really derailed the first half of his regular season

959
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: and so almost like a red shirt ear for him.

960
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 3: But super talented, young, a lot of upside.

961
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 2: Like I And then you know, obviously everyone knows how

962
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: I feel about Josh Kelly at this point, so like

963
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: I felt like they had pieces there and you know,

964
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 2: guys like really could take the next step this season,

965
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: as long as they stay healthy.

966
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: And I think Isaiah Spiller fits that mold.

967
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's some very valuable reps for him this spring

968
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: without Austin Eckler at Ota is normal for him, all right.

969
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: So just recapping things here, especially for our audio audience.

970
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: This is our top an expansion draft featuring Daniel Popper

971
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 1: with Chargers players only. Uh SO, first and foremost, Tyler

972
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: had the first pick, got to take Justin Herbert. In

973
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: the second round, he took Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, after that,

974
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: Sante Sammy Jr. Trey Pipkins, two, Lee Twoeet below to

975
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: Morgan Fox, Eric Kendricks, Heelohi Gilman, and Isaiah Spiller to

976
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: round out his roster. Uh Daniel Popper joins us today

977
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: and with his first pick he took with Shaun Slater.

978
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: No brainer there. Joey Bosa was next, and then Khalumack,

979
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: Michael Davis, Austin Eckler, Josh Palmer, Sebastian Joseph da Donald Parham,

980
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: Jalen Giton, and Joshua Kelly and then draft third. Yeah,

981
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: that is a pretty good draft draft.

982
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,479
Speaker 5: You're getting second in the poll.

983
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, for sure there.

984
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: We'll tweet went out. We'll tweet went out, you know,

985
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: and when once the second.

986
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna lose because everybody be like that guy

987
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: chose anything vote against me.

988
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll see how it goes. I mean, you

989
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: don't have Justin Herbert man, but you gotta probably the

990
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: great three rounds after that. So I was last in

991
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: this and again we we snake drafted, so I had

992
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: third and fourth picks overall. I took Derwin, James, Corey Lindsley,

993
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: Quentin Johnston, Zion Johnson, j C. Jackson, Jamari Sawyer, Gerald Everrett.

994
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 1: Just see your Taylor, Austin Johnson and Chris Rumph Tyler,

995
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: what's your what are your thoughts here?

996
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: Man?

997
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: As we finish up this episode with Daniel Popper here.

998
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 4: It's an interesting influx of young talent for the Chargers

999
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 4: and they have to hit this year. Some guys that

1000
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 4: we took like round six through ten. You know that

1001
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 4: we didn't really have as high as some of the

1002
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 4: you know, the veteran guys. But those guys gotta play

1003
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 4: and they gotta play well. So, like John Taylor, a

1004
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 4: loss needed out of him.

1005
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 5: This out of him this year.

1006
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 4: Jamari Sawyer switching sides was really solid last year, but

1007
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 4: needs to be great now at guard. You know, Isaiah Spiller,

1008
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 4: Jeff mc kelly, Chris Rump, like all these guys have

1009
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 4: to step up because if this team wants to take

1010
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 4: the next step forward, that young influxive talent has to

1011
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 4: take that next step.

1012
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: Two. Yeah, well said there, all right, Daniel Popper, thanks

1013
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: so much for joining us tonight.

1014
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: Man.

1015
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: What's coming down the pipeline? What can we look forward

1016
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: to over on the Athletic.

1017
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I've takeaways off OTAs and then obviously bunch

1018
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: of stuff coming out of Mini Camp June thirteenth and fourteenth,

1019
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: working on a couple bigger feature things that should be

1020
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: coming out closer to training camp.

1021
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'll have everyone fully covered from.

1022
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: The final two OTAs open to the media, and then

1023
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,959
Speaker 2: obviously two day mini camp mandatory. All the veterans should

1024
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 2: be there. We'll get a chance to talk to Austin

1025
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 2: Eckler for the first time. So all my takes and

1026
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: takeaways and all that good stuff coming from OTAs in

1027
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 2: Mini camp, and then get some time away, take a

1028
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: little vacation, get home and see the family, and then

1029
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 2: we'll be ready to roll July twenty sixth around.

1030
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 3: Then be back and then we'll have daily.

1031
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 2: Training camp notebooks coming for you, which I certainly love doing.

1032
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 2: I know everyone loves reading, so we look forward to that. Yeah,

1033
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: looking forward to that. So lots of good stuff to come.

1034
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we love training camp is a great time. We

1035
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: look forward to getting out there ourselves and hopefully we

1036
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: can connect after that as well. So, guys, thanks so

1037
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: much for listening. Thank you for Tyler and Danny Popper

1038
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: for their time today. Appreciate Greg and the Chargers team

1039
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: producing the show as always, and that's going to do

1040
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: it for us today. We'll see you guys next week.

1041
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: Have a great one and as always, bolt up.