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Speaker 5: And I think the quarterback play on some of the

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Speaker 1: Uh right. I think they like that guy. A lot

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Speaker 4: It was a good game.

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Speaker 2: The number four Ohio State Buck Guys take go in

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Speaker 5: They upstanding, I mean, but they also have to understand

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Speaker 4: You have to beat Ohio State in a very long time.

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Speaker 4: Mean, that is the problem.

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Speaker 5: Listen again, if Ohio State to me, when I look

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Speaker 4: There's no way in hell this game should have been

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Speaker 5: The quarterback play in collegiate football right now is a

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Speaker 5: You put any you put cam Ward in that Ohio

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Speaker 4: What the hell you think it looked like?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because he got skill players. He got him

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Speaker 4: Man Ohio State one.

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Speaker 1: But it wasn't impressive on no. No.

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Speaker 2: But see, I think the thing is, O Joe, what

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Speaker 2: if it's in Ohio State, it doesn't matter if it's

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Speaker 2: Why what What is it about that? What is it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, Ohio State's loaded.

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Speaker 2: Every year, they're gonna because they got a twenty million

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Speaker 2: Franklin said, hey, he knows expectations comes along with this job.

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Speaker 2: Huh, So Penn State, Hey, they got to do they

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Speaker 2: what we what we paying you the big bucks for

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Speaker 2: you gotta win that game.

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Speaker 4: You're paying the big bucks. But you're going to do

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Speaker 5: It's all based on the personnel you have on the field.

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Speaker 4: They that much got damn better just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But that's that's that's where coaching come in. Think about

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Speaker 1: You see what coaching the big difference that coaching made.

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Speaker 2: Oh Georgia, Oh oh that year that Alabama beat them

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Speaker 4: You don't think they were equal?

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Speaker 2: Did you remember that defense that they had all the

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Speaker 2: Maybe even in the NCC the National Championship game where

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Speaker 2: He threw that pall the ball to Devonte Smith and

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Speaker 5: List if boosters get wrestless, tell them they open up

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you what, what's gonna happen. They're gonna

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Speaker 5: That but listen, get another coach doesn't fix an issue

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Speaker 4: If you're trying to win at the college level, you

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Speaker 2: Ain't shitting like, yeah, I can't say that I disagree

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Speaker 2: The team just dropped a one and four and Joel

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Speaker 2: seemed to have been delayed his debut this season, and

439
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 2: b won't play in Wednesday's night opener or the next

440
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 2: two games.

441
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 4: So he's upset about what the calumn this rope.

442
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 2: Yes, he said, I think, he said, whatever you do,

443
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: don't keep my dead brother's name and my son's name

444
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 2: out of your mind.

445
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 5: Our reporters are commeless, allowed to talk about family and

446
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 5: bring up things that have nothing to do with the

447
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 5: game of basketball. How about just stick to basketball and

448
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 5: sticking and talking about the player itself, nothing else and

449
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 5: nothing else outside of the game of basketball.

450
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 4: It should be off limits.

451
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: He said.

452
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: If I'm wrong, hold on, he said he wanted to

453
00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 2: hold on. He wants to leave a legacy for the boy.

454
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 2: Hold on. All the reporter is trying to provide context.

455
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: He says he wants to leave a legacy for his son,

456
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: who he named after his brother. That's all he's saying.

457
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: His brother tragically died Joel and Bee's first year in Philly.

458
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: Am I missing something changed?

459
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 4: Okay? I see what you're saying. But is that even necessary?

460
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 4: Of course, is it necessary to provide Yes, Oh, Joe.

461
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: They're the reason why you have reporters because it's about stories.

462
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 2: It's about That's why you have people that come in

463
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: on the game. They're not just saying, excell and no,

464
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: it's a storyline. Sports is about story. Say, he didn't

465
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: disparage his brother. He did disparage your son, he said.

466
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 2: Joe Ella said, I want to leave a legacy. Okay,

467
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 2: the legacy is what when people think of Joel and

468
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: Bee he named his son after his brother.

469
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: I don't. I can't.

470
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 5: I kind of see it and understand it depending on

471
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 5: the individual, depending on who you are. Listen, you can

472
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 5: get your point across without bringing up the legacy part

473
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 5: I'm talking about.

474
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: During during the interview Joe Ellis, he said Joel and

475
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: b consistently points to the birth of his son, Arthur,

476
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 2: as a major inflection point in his basketball career.

477
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: He often says that he wants to.

478
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: Be great, to leave a legacy for the boy he

479
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,239
Speaker 2: named after his little brother, who tragically died in an

480
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,719
Speaker 2: automobile accident when Embiid was in his first year.

481
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 5: You said, now, what you talk about is what he

482
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 5: said past tens in general, there's no need to bring

483
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 5: that up based on what's going on in the present

484
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 5: about him not playing and not being healthy to play.

485
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: So what was he supposed to report about it?

486
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 5: He thought about him not being in shape, not being

487
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 5: able to play. The guy, damn, he did he said.

488
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: O jo He said, the man says he wants to

489
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: leave a legacy, but him not being being he said

490
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 2: the reason why he All he did was provide car

491
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: the reason why Joel and Bed named his son Arthur.

492
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: He named his son after his little brother tragically died.

493
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 2: So he's providing context for why Joey said it's so

494
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: important for him to leave a legacy and he wants

495
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: to be remembered by something, and why and why he

496
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: named his son after his brother.

497
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: I don't think you.

498
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 4: Don't think that's a little intensitive though, because it listens

499
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 4: to you.

500
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: If it's not.

501
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 4: Insensitive, then there would be no reason for Joel to

502
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 4: get mad. So got worry about it.

503
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: I took it. I don't take it as being insense.

504
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 2: That's Joel how he took it. But I think the

505
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 2: thing is is that him talking about in order to

506
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 2: be great at your job, you first have to show

507
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 2: up for work. Joel Embiid has just been the opposite.

508
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 2: Now it is eleventh season, he has consistently been in

509
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: poor condition. The poor conditioning seemed to have delayed his

510
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 2: debut this season, and he won't play in Wednesday's opener,

511
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 2: so there realized the cruck. Okay, you say you want

512
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: to be great at your job, but at first you

513
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: got to show up for work with Joe ELLENB has injuries.

514
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 2: What he missed his first year. He's had back, he's

515
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 2: had meat, he's had ankle, he's had feet problems, he's

516
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: been had tony issues.

517
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: So what he's wanted to do, yes, funny.

518
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: Uh So I'm just I just like I said, I

519
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: like him. I can't tell somebody how they should react

520
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 2: in that moment. I think the thing is for me

521
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: being in the media and having a little better understanding

522
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 2: on this side, because a lot of times, Oh Joe,

523
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 2: we say things and we think it's innocent, and to

524
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: us it is, but to the individual, Yeah, but I

525
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 2: think it had more. I think it has more to

526
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: do with the criticism about Joel and Be constantly missing games,

527
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: Joel and B constantly being out of shape. I think

528
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: that rubbed Joel and B the wrong way.

529
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 4: He can't rub him the wrong way.

530
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 5: He's been playing the left years and he's missed multiple

531
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 5: games throughout the tenure of his entire career.

532
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 2: And whether this thinking about how many years he would

533
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 2: have played if he had to be if he had

534
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 2: to have been hurt. He missing half a season, he's

535
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: missing entire seasons.

536
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 5: Okay, but see that's the whole point, So it can't

537
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 5: be the criticism.

538
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: That's not the point. The point is for you to play,

539
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: not for you to miss games.

540
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 4: He can't help it. I'm just saying he can't help it.

541
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 4: It's a big man, he said, that's a man bigger

542
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 4: than Shack.

543
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: We were talking about if he bigger than Shack. I

544
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: don't know.

545
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no, no no, not not like that,

546
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: not like that.

547
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: How tall is him, be sep, Yeah, they're about the

548
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: same high.

549
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 4: God, damn, well he about thirty three hundred.

550
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: Oh he ain't no about man. You see how big

551
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: he is from from waist down.

552
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: So so he is about three hundred. Oh he over

553
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: three hundred.

554
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 4: That's a whole lot of weight. So we talked about

555
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 4: injuries and him missing time.

556
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: But no why but but see you applaud them for

557
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: eating McDonald's. You applauded for that.

558
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 4: Yes, Oh my bad.

559
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: Because yes you because when I said he's getting massages

560
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: and he's getting work, don't getting treatment eating McDonald's. But see,

561
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: you don't want to talk about that the injuries and

562
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: all he does is eat McDonald's and he has yet

563
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: to really play a full season. But you eat McDonald's.

564
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,239
Speaker 2: Keep on, You've done it this far. So how about this?

565
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: How about training that diet?

566
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 4: And you think you'd be changes die, he won't get

567
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: hurt on.

568
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm asking you. That's your level of expertise.

569
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: I don't know.

570
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 4: That's just that's just one player. Everybody else is like

571
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 4: ninety nine.

572
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: Oh, that's just one. That's not what you said. That's

573
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: not what you said. When people, when people change their

574
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: diet and start eating that's what I's what.

575
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 4: You're a different type of individual, a different type of

576
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 4: body type.

577
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 5: So it might not work for the hell I'm gonna

578
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 5: listen to me that it might not work for somebody

579
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 5: of that size.

580
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 4: That is that is a large human being, you know.

581
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 5: I think it's that's for people six feet six feet

582
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 5: in under the six three and under.

583
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 4: Now, once you.

584
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: Get Henry, you got to change the diet. Do you

585
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: hear about deack Henry? No gluten, no fried food, no deairiry,

586
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: nothing processed. How that working out for him?

587
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: Jo Dereck Henry King Henry, I.

588
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 4: Don't know, how it's working for him is broking good,

589
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 4: ain't it.

590
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: I'm asking you he doesn't eat processed food, he doesn't

591
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: eat fried food, he doesn't eat anything with gluten, he

592
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 2: doesn't eat anything with dary.

593
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: I'm asking you. I don't you know what. I don't

594
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: believe him? How about that?

595
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 4: I don't believe what Dereck Henry from Derek.

596
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: He from from Florida. He's from the crib. Yeah, he

597
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: from like a Jacksonville area. You dead ask Yeah?

598
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 4: And that nigga lying man? Listen at listening to him?

599
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: Man, stop lying, man?

600
00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I mean, I think thing is ojo

601
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: when you take that. Think about it. Derrick Henry had

602
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: almost fourteen hundred carries in high school. I saw talk

603
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: with another another six hundred in college, talk on with

604
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: another two thousand in the NFL.

605
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Here, I'll lie to y'all. I don't know if

606
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: he eating fast food. Hey, listen, listen.

607
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 5: He might not be asked fast food, but everything he

608
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 5: ran off and might have said for media wise, for

609
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 5: good context. But look what I'm eating, and which is

610
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 5: why I'm playing. Well, I ain't believing that shit. I

611
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 5: can tell you that.

612
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think no no, No, I totally can

613
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: believe it because I was like that during the season.

614
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't eat anything fast food. I stuck

615
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: to the tougherware.

616
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: Uh. And then I had a situation where.

617
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: Maybe it's like for like two weeks three weeks in

618
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: the off season, I would eat whatever I want, not

619
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: every single day, but if there's a couple of days

620
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: I wanted to go to the Houston, which was one

621
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: of my which is my one of my favorite restaurants,

622
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: I would go there and get the chicken back then

623
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: each have chicken tenner they don't have them anymore, or

624
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: I'll get the burger that's steal my staple now. But

625
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: for the most part, for me, it was in my

626
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: mind because I felt once I once I altered my diet,

627
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: I felt I played better, and so now my brain

628
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: has convinced me that I played better on it.

629
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 4: That's called that's called mind fucking yourself.

630
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 5: You mind yourself and feeling like what you're consuming is

631
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 5: improving your plate when that really had.

632
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: Nothing the same way your mind you mind fucked yourself.

633
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: And say mcdonald'sn't mess up your mind.

634
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 4: No, no, no, listen, listen, listen, stay with me.

635
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 5: Now, there's a certain skill set that you've honed and

636
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 5: perfected when you started at Savannah State until you got

637
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 5: to the NFL, when you was with Denver, you worked

638
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 5: on that craft and you perfected it to a point

639
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 5: where you became all the famer what.

640
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 4: You your body ain't changing none of that.

641
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: Yes, it will won't, God damn.

642
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 4: It, it won't. I promise you.

643
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: Men argue the master. So you did, you did so.

644
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: You didn't improve, You didn't do anything different.

645
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: You ran the same You did the same drills in

646
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: high school and college that you ran that you got

647
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: your NFL.

648
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: You changed absolutely nothing. No, but you have to understand

649
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: it's no, no, no, hold on, wait a minute, Wait

650
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: a minute. So from high school you changed absolutely nothing.

651
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: You did the exact same thing in high school, college

652
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: and the NFL.

653
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 4: As far as as far as routine when it comes

654
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 4: to training.

655
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: Did you change anything from high school, college to the NFL?

656
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: Yes? Why because you had already you hone your craft

657
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: over years and years and years, So why would you change?

658
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 5: Hold stay with me, now, I'm talking about my training regimen.

659
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 5: I'm not talking about what I can assume.

660
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: So why would you change anything that's my point.

661
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 4: Okay, it worked for me. I see what you're saying. Okay,

662
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 4: I'm with you a little bit. I'm with you a

663
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 4: little bit. I'm with you. Talk to me now, come on.

664
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: So but what I'm what I'm saying the old Jess

665
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: is that if you know better, you do better. And

666
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: I'm not because a lot of times, a lot of people,

667
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: You're right, people get like, okay, trial, I'll do this.

668
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: I've been doing this, and when they try something else.

669
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: Look at Michael Jordan when he changed, when he got

670
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: with Tim Grover Kobe. That's why guys went to that way.

671
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: And so now you see a lot of guys they

672
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: have their physio what they didn't have in college, what

673
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: they didn't have as high school players, because they say,

674
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: you know what, I need to be better, so I

675
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: know better, I can do better.

676
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: The way guys eat. I mean some guys they look.

677
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you have to be as as strict

678
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: as Lebron or somebody like that, or Tom Brady.

679
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: Tom Tom is that it's way and there's you way

680
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: over there.

681
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: And there's some people that's kind of like in the middle,

682
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: and some people that lean a little bit more towards Tom.

683
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: There's some people that lean a little bit more to you.

684
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: But my thing is ojo is that I was willing

685
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: to try and to see. Like you said, your mind,

686
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: you convinced yourself that McDonald's had no negative benefit. I

687
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: had convinced myself that eating correctly in a healthy lifestyle

688
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: gave me great benefit. It's still the mind that I've

689
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: convinced myself, convinced this body that my play would be

690
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: improved if I ate a certain way. You convinced your

691
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: play would not be changed if you ate this. Yeah,

692
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 2: you see, like you said, But it's the mind.

693
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 5: Right, This is what I don't like most of the time.

694
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 5: You put out these these for context purposes. I'm playing

695
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 5: up as I am based on what I.

696
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 4: Consume and to eat.

697
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 5: Then it had believing that, well, if I eat this way,

698
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 5: then I'm going to be great as well.

699
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 4: When it has nothing to do with you put in

700
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 4: your body, it's all about skill.

701
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: No, you still gotta work, work. Then you got to know.

702
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 5: What you're working on. You can't just be abut to

703
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 5: do doing it, just to do it and think all

704
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 5: of a sudden, well I'm gona look like goddamn Derrick

705
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 5: Henry because this is what he easiness, what he does.

706
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 5: That's not the way it was.

707
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: Wass no, no, because you're not gonna be You're not

708
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: the first of all, you're not gonna be able to

709
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: work like that.

710
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: You gotta fact.

711
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: You got the fact that that is, you're not gonna

712
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 2: be able to work like that. And plus your body type.

713
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 2: See Joel and B can't eat fast food. He's already

714
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: three hundred.

715
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: And you think he eat it for real though, Oh Joe,

716
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: he's on the table. Yes, that's what he eats a lot.

717
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: You have to understand. After the game, he.

718
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 4: Saw time, but does he really do it like all

719
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 4: the time?

720
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: I think maybe time there's a read everybody everybody said this,

721
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: if Joel and B took his nutrition serious, the same thing,

722
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 2: what do they say about Zion? He needs to take

723
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: his nutrition serious because, like you said, nightly, basis up

724
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: and down that court a man three hundred plus pounds

725
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: up down, up, down, up down eighty two nights, so

726
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: eighty two games a year, and sometimes those games are

727
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: back to back. You play on a Tuesday, you play

728
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 2: on a Wednesday. That's a lot of pounding. So and

729
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: you know when you were there after the game on

730
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: the road. Ain't nothing in the boxing nutritious. It's sandwiches,

731
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: it's fried chicken, it's honey buhuns, it's potato chillestiments. You look,

732
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: you would not been in locker rooms, in the NFL

733
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: locker room for over a decade, both of us. We

734
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 2: know what's on the training table. So now think about

735
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: a basketball player. They get they pick up after the game,

736
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: they grab their workout, they pick up that box. They

737
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: on to the next city, O Jo, at least we

738
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 2: going home. You get to the next city, you hungry.

739
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: What you think you think they're ordering grilled chicken. You

740
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 2: think they ordered rice and veggie, or they're getting a pizza,

741
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: or they're getting wings. Now, as you can see, ways

742
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: start to start to creep up. Because you got to remember,

743
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: O Joe. In the off season, that's when you work

744
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: your hardest, You putting in the two hours three hours

745
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 2: a day of training. Now, what happens if you get

746
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 2: nicked and you can't train and you can't play. What

747
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: happens then, oh y'all, if you eating, if you eating

748
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: not sustainable, not a healthy lifestyle, the weight does because

749
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: you know it's gonna get cold in most places. Cincinnati

750
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: it got cold, Denver, Baltimore it got cold. So you

751
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: don't sweat as much. You don't sweat as much, and

752
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 2: you still eat the same.

753
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 4: What happened on y'all big So I got hey, listen,

754
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 4: marvel Lewis, find me.

755
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 5: But hey, I got the damn there two thirty five

756
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 5: when it got cold, I got fu.

757
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 4: You got.

758
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: So for me? I mean, my weight, I was just saved.

759
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: I waited, you know, for the most part of my career.

760
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: I was somewhere between twenty five and twenty eight.

761
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 4: Oh we're about to say okay, okay.

762
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: And then you know, come into the season. I always

763
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: had a wait. My report weight was two thirty two.

764
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: My first way in was two twenty eight.

765
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: I maintained.

766
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 4: Year off, doing training camp, all that running in.

767
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: I would yeah. But see the thing was I would lose.

768
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: I would weigh in. I would weigh in at thirty two.

769
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: Way out of practice is like twenty five I lost.

770
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: I lose an average of seven pounds. Now the one

771
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: practice I lost like twelve pounds, and then I had

772
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 2: to get five bags of ivy fluid yet to replacement

773
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: because and that's and that was the thing because you know, hey,

774
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 2: we ran. Yeah, it wasn't no. You catch your pass

775
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: and you finished five yards. You catch a pass in

776
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: the West Coast, you going forward every time. I don't

777
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: care if you catch a shallow cross. I don't care

778
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: if you catch a stick round. I don't care if

779
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: you catch a slam, because Mike was way down there

780
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: and you had to run past making to have it,

781
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 2: make it happen. Yeah, man, hey, Jerry started that bullgime.

782
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: Well it wasn't bullgized, but Jerry was the one that

783
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: started what they called finished. And so now that was

784
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: the expectation of anybody in that West Coast top is now.

785
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 2: I think some some teams have kind of like backed

786
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: off that a little bit, but Mike Shannon had damn

787
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: sure him back off that because he had three years

788
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: with Jerry, and when he came back, he brought.

789
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: That with us.

790
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: And so that was a that was That's the That

791
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: was the biggest thing, O Joe, because I knew it

792
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 2: was gonna get cold, and so my, my, my, my,

793
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: my training, my eating had to be up to par

794
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: because the last thing I wanted to do is to

795
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: get nick and not be able to trade but I hope. Look,

796
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 2: I think it's frustrating, O Joe. Look, nobody likes being

797
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: talked about unless it's good and right now, Joel, Look,

798
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: because think about it, O Joe.

799
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: He was hurt into the playoffs.

800
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: Remember he played, he played in Paris, and now it's like,

801
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: hold on, you was healthy enough to play in Paris?

802
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 4: He didn't. He didn't play as many minutes. Now he played.

803
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: How many minutes have you played for the Sixers? None yet? Now?

804
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: Which one pair? Which one pair? And he just signed

805
00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: an extension three years.

806
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 2: There's one hundred million on top of the so he's

807
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: about to make two hundred and ten about two hundred

808
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: and fifty million over the next five years, and the

809
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: fans like, hold on, bro, Yeah, what's what's really good?

810
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 5: You know what else could be frustrating is the fact

811
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 5: that what he's getting hurt and I'm sure he wants

812
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 5: to play, so he's frustrated of that, and then having

813
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 5: to hear from the media and in the pundits about

814
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 5: him not being able to play.

815
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 4: Well here, you think I want to be goddamn hurt?

816
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 5: You think I want all these issues that I've had

817
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 5: with my body failing me?

818
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, how about this.

819
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: There there's a simple there's a simple saying, do what

820
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: you're always done, you get what you always got. So

821
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: what is he doing that continues to get him what

822
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 2: he's always gotten? O?

823
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: Yoe?

824
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 5: And you know, when I think of NBA players, I

825
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 5: think of them having all the resources because they have

826
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 5: the money to do so and do everything they can

827
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 5: to prepare themselves to play. Getting his shape, whether it's stretching,

828
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 5: they have, they have the best of everything.

829
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 4: So I'm sure Embeid takes.

830
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 5: Those necessary steps to be able to be able to

831
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 5: be ready to play, you know, preparing for training camp, whatnot.

832
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 5: And it just hasn't been able to work for him,

833
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 5: which is why he's missing the first game and probably

834
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 5: the next two games after that.

835
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: But ohthough he done miss more than the first game.

836
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 2: The first the start of the season was way way back.

837
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: I would be me and my daughter went to start

838
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: of the season game that was like a what two

839
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: weeks ago?

840
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: The NBA season is two weeks old now, ain't it? Yo?

841
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: It's two weeks old.

842
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 2: But I think that's the thing, Oh Joe, if I

843
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: can't fault you, oh y'all, if you don't know better,

844
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: and you don't do better.

845
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: It's when you know better and choose not to do better.

846
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: He knows, like you said, he has the resources. I

847
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 1: just and I look, it's frustrating. Look, you've never been injured.

848
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: I've been injured.

849
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: I've had the injuries my ankle and I thought, but

850
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: the ankle was going to force me to early retirement

851
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: because you know, at some point one time the doctor

852
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: said with Shannon, we just can't keep shooting your ankles

853
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: up so you can play.

854
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to at some point in.

855
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 2: Time, you're gonna have to get this antle healthy or

856
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: you know you're gonna yeah, because they're gonna be there.

857
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: Long terms effect, man, I ain't got what man, What

858
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 2: I tell you what the long term effect is my

859
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 2: grandmother been pouring, going to the ourthouse and going out

860
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 2: to the wood for forty fifty years. That's the long

861
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: term effect. And to have my family living like they live,

862
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 2: that's the long term. That's the trauma that I grew

863
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: up with. So I worry about the amputation at a

864
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 2: later day and time. In the meantime, when you stop

865
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: talking me to death, so.

866
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: I could go out there and drop these bombs on

867
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: the Chargers, the Cheese, the Raiders, or whoever they else.

868
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: We down, Man, I ain't trying to hear. I ain't

869
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: lying on Joe. But look, look and Joe, and I

870
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: get it.

871
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: Bro I get it that you're frustrated because there's no

872
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: quest Joe when he's at his bed. Yeah, you're not

873
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: finding two three players better than Joe Eliban because he

874
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: can give you fifty and give you twenty rebounds and

875
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 2: block your five shots and have your three steals.

876
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: On the other end, he plays both ends of the core.

877
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: I get that.

878
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 2: And it's frustrated because for the most part, he's never

879
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 2: had an entire season where he's been like, I'm healthy,

880
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: I'm healthy.

881
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: He hasn't had that. I got a question.

882
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: Yes, has been able to do it. Oh, he has

883
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: a totally different body. He's not as tall, he's not

884
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 2: as tall, but he's not as heavy. Hey, he looked

885
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: he looked like lethargic, and he just looked like he does.

886
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: He just looks like he's just there. He doesn't if

887
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: you look at the type of game that he plays,

888
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 2: he doesn't play an explosive game. Joeanna be got quick twitch? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

889
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: he has quick twitch. Fibers or a man that size.

890
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: Same thing with Zion. Zion has a quick twitch. That's

891
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 2: why he could leave the floor so quick. But that's

892
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 2: also just imagine you're taking an eighteen wheeler, getting it

893
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: up to fifty miles an hour and just slamming on

894
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 2: the bread and then get it up to fifty miles

895
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: an hour and slam it on the break.

896
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: Now you take that with a Sedainon or a nest Uv.

897
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: You see the difference.

898
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 2: That's the difference between Joel and band of Zion Williamson's

899
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: body and some of these other guys. That's why Kareem

900
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: was able to play so long. You see the way

901
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: Kareem Bill Kareem seven to two. But look at Kareem

902
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 2: is that he probably only like twenty maybe ten pounds

903
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: eavery year than what he was when he played. But

904
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: Kareem was yoga, he watched what he ate. But I

905
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: just think that that's the thing, that's what you have

906
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: to do, especially if you want of those ginormous seven

907
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 2: foot three hundred plus. Oh Joe, if you seven foot

908
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: three hundred pounds at twenty twenty one, what you think

909
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: you're gonna be at thirty? You think you're gonna be

910
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: at forty if you don't watch your you don't watch it,

911
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: you'll eat because you definitely can't eat the same if

912
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: you're not doing the same activities.

913
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: That's why we see so much. May I see some DV?

914
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, were you a d libel? Whole line?

915
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: Ain't no way you play DV looking like this. You

916
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: see about y'all. You've seen some of the guys that way.

917
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 2: And now in two forty five, two sixty because you

918
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 2: kept the same eating habits with not the same training schedule.

919
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: Right when you leave the game, you either gotta work

920
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: out harder or eat less or both. Those are your

921
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 2: only ores. But I hope hopefully. I mean because earlier

922
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: it was reported that he punched a reporter. Either way

923
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 2: he there's probably gonna be some disciplinary action. Adam Silver

924
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: is probably gonna come down because he doesn't want this,

925
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: because that's what punishment is about. Punishment is not only

926
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 2: for the offender, is also to deter others from doing

927
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: such such a I have.

928
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 5: A question, though, is there any type of discipline for

929
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 5: the reporter based on what he wrote or are you

930
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 5: sticking with an understanding on what he what he said

931
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 5: for contact.

932
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: No, No, I don't believe that it's going to be

933
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: any any like I said how he handled it. I

934
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 2: probably wouldn't handled it like that, but I'm not in

935
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: that situation exactly.

936
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: Do I believe? Do I believe there will be discipline

937
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: for the reporter? I do not. I do not.

938
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 4: Okay.

939
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: Also, we had another incident though Joe.

940
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: Video has emerged this morning showing Jason Kelsey walking near

941
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: Penn State Beaverstadium and getting approached by a college student

942
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: shouting his name and asking for a fist bump.

943
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: Excuse me.

944
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 2: One person can be heard heckling Kelsey, using the derogatory

945
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 2: language about his brother Travis and girlfriend Taylor Swim At Kelsey,

946
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: how does it feel that your brother is a you

947
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 2: know the slur for Danny Taylor swill, The person yell.

948
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: Jason was not having any of it as he turned, stopped,

949
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: turn around, grab the person's phone and slam it to

950
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: the ground. As Jason goes to pick the phone up,

951
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: the guy shoves it so and Jason had the phone

952
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 2: back to it says who's the f now.

953
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: To the person fight back, Jason, don't do that.

954
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 5: Don't put your phone in people's faces, Give people space,

955
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 5: show respect.

956
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: It's okay. If the guy doesn't want to fist bump

957
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 2: you guys, it's okay. It's not the end of the world.

958
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 4: Saw the video he all he had, he got the

959
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 4: phone all out, all in the all in the man's space.

960
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: Man, y'all, y'all, come on, come on. See. I used

961
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: to think, say, we're better than this, but we're not.

962
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: Because after a certain point in time, Oh yo, this

963
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: is who we are, right, this is who This is

964
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: what we've become as a society because because what the

965
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 2: Internet is, the Internet is done.

966
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: It's made so many people famous, and so many people

967
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:05,959
Speaker 1: want their.

968
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 2: Ten fifteen minutes of fame that they're willing to cross lines.

969
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: In order to achieve it. But sometimes you can make

970
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: the wrong play on the wrong day. Depend know who

971
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: the people alone. I look, I just I get it.

972
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: Oh yo.

973
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: Sometimes when we do our job, we have to talk

974
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: about people, and we have to talk about the football.

975
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: And like we talked about the Tom Brady situation and

976
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: his wife. They're moved on. They going their separate ways

977
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 2: in X, Y and Z. But I'm just trying to

978
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 2: figure out Travis Kelsey dating Taylor's will that impacts this

979
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: gentleman's life. And why would you say, why would you

980
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 2: call that man out of his say, his brother, out

981
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 2: of his name? So how do you think the man

982
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: was going to respond?

983
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: Why?

984
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: I mean, why would you do that? You with them,

985
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: with the person to try to get a reaction out

986
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: of Kelsey, out of Jason.

987
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: Why do why? Why?

988
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 5: I mean you got to think these it's the college

989
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 5: kids though, so you already know how they are. They're

990
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 5: not thinking straight, they not thinking, they saying the first

991
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 5: thing come to mind.

992
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: You know, so the college kids are they gonna be

993
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 1: adults at some point.

994
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 4: But come on, think about what you did in college.

995
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 4: Now you know you was wild?

996
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: Now you know?

997
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I ain't called nobody but oh yo, because

998
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 2: like I said, I'm I'm look, I'm big on respect.

999
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: I ain't going to nobody face being disrespectful. And if

1000
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: I don't like somebody, I'm not talking to that.

1001
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 5: You you have to understand the world we're in today.

1002
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 5: You have to understand these kids in the area. You

1003
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 5: just say it yourself. You mentioned media going viral Internet,

1004
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 5: How can I make a name for myself?

1005
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 4: I mean, just just all that stuff tied in today.

1006
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 5: You those kids on not Act and you know this

1007
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 5: is this is there of cell phones are recording every guy.

1008
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: Damn they do everything.

1009
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 2: It is. We've gotten to the point we put everything

1010
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: on the internet. We put what we're eating, what we're wearing,

1011
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 2: and X, Y and Z. It's just gotten to the.

1012
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 4: Point, man, it's just got to tweet everything, you know.

1013
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: I just I just don't. I just don't know.

1014
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 2: I just wish uh uh Jason wouldn have had yelled

1015
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 2: those words back to it. Just just kept it moving.

1016
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: Just grab him. He did what he did, But just

1017
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 2: keep it moving. Don't don't. Don't lower yourself to the level. Yeah, yeah,

1018
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,479
Speaker 2: I just I just I just hated that some people

1019
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 2: go out go out of their way trying to get

1020
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: a celebrity or an entertainer or somebody famous to get

1021
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: a reaction out of them.

1022
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: I hate that that's where we are right now. Oh y'all.

1023
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 2: If it's somebody that I don't like, I don't follow them.

1024
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: They something come up on my fee I strolled right

1025
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: past it. I don't listen to their music. I don't

1026
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 2: watch their films. Okay, I don't. We don't jive, we

1027
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: don't get along, how to look kind of like what

1028
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: you stand for. Okay, ain't no harm, no foul. And

1029
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 2: I'm definitely not gonna seek that person out to try

1030
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: to start a confrontation or try to get out there something.

1031
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 2: I just you know, you're just aboord the situation. But

1032
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: I just don't get many people now, damn.

1033
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: Uh. And I could.

1034
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: Joe, I said before we started, this is who we

1035
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 2: are now, because you don't you remember saying are we

1036
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: really that bad?

1037
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: And we really like this?

1038
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: At some point in times you got to come to

1039
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: conclusion this is who we are, this is this is

1040
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: what we've become as a society.

1041
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 4: Hey, I remember you, Hey remember you got mad with

1042
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 4: dud in the airport when you had a bear?

1043
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, with the dog. Yes, yes, yes he wanted it.

1044
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 2: Because I still don't know how you know, like I said,

1045
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: he must he must have been expecting somebody else was there,

1046
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 2: because nobody knew I was there that day. Because normally

1047
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 2: I get a service to take me. I drove myself,

1048
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: so nobody kept him. Sometimes they'll ay, I'm picking up

1049
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: Shannon Sharp or somebody a restaurant said, oh, reservation Shannon

1050
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: Sharp O Cho Sinko made reservations and the proper rock

1051
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 2: still show up. Sometimes they have you know, uh assistance

1052
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 2: or that all alert the propriising so they can get pictured.

1053
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: So I was very cautious that day to make sure

1054
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: that I drove myself. And normally when I go to

1055
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: the airport or even anything in that I have someone

1056
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: to have someone to drive for me. But I was

1057
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: cautious that day, and I noticed him earlier. O cha,

1058
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: But I say, well, you know what, nah nah nah.

1059
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: And the thing was is that, like I said, the

1060
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: lady had come because she had to pick the dog

1061
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 2: up from one country. She had to fly from one

1062
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: go to another country to get the dog, bring the

1063
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: guy the dog back to me. She was only going

1064
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 2: to be in the airport for like ten hours because

1065
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: the next flight was going to leave. So my thing is,

1066
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 2: I'm giving this lady a lot of money. I need

1067
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 2: to make sure she gets back through security. So I

1068
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: was like, ma'am, do you mind if we do the

1069
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 2: transaction over there? And she's like sure, no problem. Because

1070
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: at first I didn't see her because she had she

1071
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: had Teddy in a carrier. So I'm looking up like

1072
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: and I called shell Shelley. I don't see this lady

1073
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 2: Shelley get on the phone.

1074
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: Called the lady. She said, Well she standing at X

1075
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: Y and forth song. She got on this. She got

1076
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: on this.

1077
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: I turned around, I see I got and I'm like,

1078
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 2: but he looked he wanted reaction. I mean I gave him.

1079
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: I mean I guess he wanted me to shove him

1080
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: or something. I gave him what he looked for. He

1081
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: got his little you know, he got his moment of fame.

1082
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: But I mean to call somebody brother a name derogatory

1083
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: and what what?

1084
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: What did? Come on? Bro? Come on you in college?

1085
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 4: You got to start legs dropping these foods.

1086
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 1: Man, well that's what happened.

1087
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 2: I mean people people get really disrespectful because they ain't

1088
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: never been slapped before, so you know.

1089
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 4: To make an example.

1090
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I just that's why you think I stay

1091
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: in the house old Joe. People like me, No, because

1092
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 2: I just I just because I just want to be

1093
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: letty you hey, you know a I get from point

1094
00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: to point back, I walked, Oh yeah, because Jordan's you

1095
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 2: know Jordan if he worked for the ever whatever airline

1096
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: we were flying on, because he got to get everybody

1097
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 2: their bags me and asked him got out the fly.

1098
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 4: I like, hey, what their is?

1099
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: Jordan? I said, don't worry about it. You could wait.

1100
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: I'm gone, You're out of there. He getting everybody's bag.

1101
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: You need your bag, ma'am? There you go? So you

1102
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: need your bag? Which one is your? Jordan? Behave you

1103
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: do not work for this airline?

1104
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 4: It's Samaritan man being a good Marian.

1105
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: Dude there, so now you don't, Jordan, I fly, we

1106
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: get two bulls and such transportation.

1107
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: Oh so you leaving him?

1108
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 4: He can stay there and do all that.

1109
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, he do all that. He gone. I'm gone, right,

1110
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm gone. That's funny. You're not for me out here?

1111
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 2: Take yourself on a pigeon in fifteen autograph because while

1112
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: you passing that baggage, I said, did they at least

1113
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: tip your so you should have some extra money. But

1114
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: I feel look, Kelse, I mean you're a different spot now.

1115
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: You never kind of had this kind of attention. I understand,

1116
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: you know, hey, he was an outstanding center for the Eagles.

1117
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: But TV T TV fame is different than than sports fans.

1118
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 2: It's a whole different ball game, especially now I'm not

1119
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 2: obviously a Lebron and a Tom Brady's something like that.

1120
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 2: But for for an offensive lineman to get this kind

1121
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: of level of fame because the only time his thing

1122
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 2: got mentioned and when he held that he had to

1123
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: do something bad for them to talk about.

1124
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey.

1125
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 2: Now he's on ESPN. He has a great part with

1126
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 2: his brother, with his brother. Yeah, he used to commercials.

1127
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 2: So yeah, like I said, the only thing I just hate,

1128
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: I just hate that he uttered the word back. What

1129
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 2: the gentleman said. That's that's it. If he you know,

1130
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 2: gave him a quick, you know, quick elbow to the throat,

1131
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 2: Adam Fang, that'd have been like free free Jason Kelsey saying,

1132
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 2: you be idol.

1133
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: Here be.

1134
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 4: The volume. Mm hmm