1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Hike and everybody on Dan Horde and this is the 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast. I'm standing on the rooftop shouting out, baby, 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. Addition, as the Bengals try to 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: make this the week that they get their first win 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: under Zach Taylor, as they try to upset the first 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: place Ravens in Baltimore. Coming up, you'll hear three conversations. First, 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: it's my broadcast partner, Dave Lapham. We'll discuss the matchup, 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: the possibility of the Bengals trading veteran players, and we'll 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: do something a little different as each of us will 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: pick the player on another NFL roster that we would 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: most like to have in Cincinnati. With a qualifier, we 12 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: weren't allowed to select Patrick Mahomes. That would have been 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: too easy. My locker room conversation this week is with 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: wide receiver Auden Tate, who had his first NFL touchdown 15 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: catch last week, but as he was quick to point out, 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: he probably should have had two. We'll discuss his catch 17 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: and his drop. And in this week's No The Faux segment, 18 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: we'll get the lowdown on the Ravens from their longtime 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: radio play by play man, Jerry Sandusky, that's Jerry with 20 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: a G. All of that is straight ahead. But first, 21 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: here's a quick reminder that you can have the latest 22 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: edition of this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, 23 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,919 Speaker 1: or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, 24 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: or pod Bean. 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Now let's get to 33 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: my conversation with Dave Lapham, and we started with something 34 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: that isn't going to happen, but was fun to discuss. 35 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: Here's a question we are both going to answer. If 36 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: you could add one player to the Bengals roster off 37 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: another team, who would it be? With this qualifier, it 38 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: can't be a quarterback because we would both pick Patrick Mahomes, 39 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: you go first. A close second might be Russell Wilson 40 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: for me, that dude, he just seems to make plays 41 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: when he has to make plays. That son of a gun. 42 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: He's amazing. As a former offensive lineman, I'm going to 43 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: take the offensive side of the football and struggling up 44 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: front the offensive line. And the Indianapolis Colts went into 45 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: Kansas City and beat the Chiefs and they were just 46 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: physical with them, and they just you know, they mauled 47 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: the Kansa City Chiefs up front. They kept Mahomes off 48 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: the football field. And a guy that I think is 49 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: the lead to the pack there is Quintin Nelson, kid 50 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: out of Notre Dame. I just think I like everything 51 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: about him. I like his demeanor. He's the policeman out there. 52 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: He's the bodyguard for everybody. Anytime there's a little skirmish, 53 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: he's the first one in to support his teammates, pulling 54 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: guys apart or doing what he needs to do to 55 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: help his teammate. And h plus the fact that he's 56 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: a hell of a football player. I mean, run blocker, 57 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: great pulling guard, tremendous pass protector. Just need to start 58 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: to improve that. That up front, you know, get get 59 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: something done up front, and his style of play may 60 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: be contagious as well. Maybe that'll, you know, get get 61 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: somebody like a kingpin up front that has that kind 62 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 1: of mentality. As for me, if I knew he could 63 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: stay healthy and would play eight to ten more years, 64 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: I'd take Louke Keekley, But he's twenty eight and in 65 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: his eighth year in the NFL, So I'm going to 66 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: go with Quentin Nelson's Indianapolis teammate. Linebacker Darius Leonard, twenty 67 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: four years old, second year in the NFL, led the 68 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: league in tackles last year. Eight passes defended, seven sacks, 69 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: two interceptions. Give me a playbacking, a playmaking linebacker that 70 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: can go sideline to sideline, reading stuff and making plays. 71 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: When was the last time the Bengals defense was good 72 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: when Vont's perfect was still good. The Bengals desperately need 73 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: a guy like that. That's their two weakest positions, you know, 74 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: offensive line and linebacker though, where they need the most 75 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: help for sure. Dan. We had Andy Benoit, formerly of 76 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated, on one of our radio shows earlier this year, 77 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: and I asked him if the Rams style offense that 78 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: Zach was springing to Cincinnati would help the offensive line, 79 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: and he said, not necessarily, because the best runs that 80 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: Sean McVay likes to go to are outside zone runs, 81 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: and Andy said they require a threshold of athleticism that 82 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: the Bengals don't have upfront. Is that preventing the Bengals 83 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: from running the type of plays that Todd Gurley has 84 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: been so successful doing. I mean, yeah, you could. You 85 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: could say that the running game or the lackter of 86 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: with respect to the running game, my theory as having 87 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 1: played the position is I always love play action pass 88 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: because you're in max protection. It's very offensive line friendly 89 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: and usually very quarterback friendly because you're you're basically in 90 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: max protection of a fake, faking running back that basically 91 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: consumes somebody potentially if he runs a good enough fake 92 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: or can block the guy if he does blitz and 93 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the football. So that's your six blocker 94 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: picking up of a you know, an extra rusher, and 95 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: you're you're selling the run and that's making the defensive 96 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: line not too often rush the quarterback. So you know, normally, 97 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: if your running game's going, play action pass is great. 98 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: It's very very friendly. But if the running game gets 99 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: a lack of execution or whatever the case may be, 100 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 1: isn't working, or you're putting yourself and down in distances 101 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: where the running game isn't a factor, and you're, you know, 102 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: first in fifteen second and twenty too often like they 103 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: have been, you're going to drop back and throw it. 104 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: And this offensive line strength is not you know, pass protecting, 105 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: dropping back and throwing the football thirty times a game. 106 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: That's not that's not who they are at all. So, 107 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: you know, and he makes a great point. I mean, theoretically, 108 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: if you can establish some sort of a pressure point 109 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: with that outside zone or inside zone, they're much better 110 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: inside zone blockers than outside zone for the reasons Andy said. 111 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: You have to be you know, you have to be 112 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: able to move latterly, horizontally, athletically, you know, to be 113 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: able to get the stretch in the in the outside 114 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: zone that you're looking for. So until they get that 115 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: running game going, the theory of it being a very 116 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: offensive line friendly, quarterback friendly offense goes out the window 117 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: because you're stuck in down to distances where you're just 118 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: dropping back and throwing the football and people are teeing 119 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: off on you. You have made no secret of your 120 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: desire to see Giovanni Bernard more involved. Yeah, I mean, 121 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: I think whenever he plays, I like what he does. 122 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he can be a fact, a 123 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: very positive factor the organization. They don't give a guy, 124 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, an eight figure contract, not seven figures, an 125 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: eight figure contract because they just like you, and they 126 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: do like him. What's not to like about him? He's 127 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: a great guy. He's doing a lot of a lot 128 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: of good for people that need help with respect to water, 129 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, the bare necessities of life. You know, he's 130 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: providing people. And you know, how can you not respect 131 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: and like a guy like that. But you know, at 132 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: some point, okay, you think he's he's really a good 133 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: football player. You want him to be part of your 134 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: your football team. How about giving him some snaps, you know, 135 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: incorporate him. You're down in the game, the Bengals were 136 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: down to four receivers. They lost Alex Erickson and you know, 137 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: no offense to the third and fourth receiver. But why 138 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: why can't Gievarnie Bernard do at least what they're doing 139 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: in some formations or you know, two back sets, you know, 140 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: be a little creative, do some jets jets sweeps with him, 141 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: do some shovel passes with him. He's a guy that 142 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: could do this sort of thing and get on the 143 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: perimeter for you. So yeah, I'd like to see a 144 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: little more Giovanni Bernard involvement for sure, And I think 145 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: I think it would pay dividends. And nobody wants to 146 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: win any more than Giovanni Bernard does. And I'll guarantee 147 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: you he's frustrated, but you know the reason he was 148 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: elected captain. He's not going to verbalize his frustration. He's 149 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: frustrated about being oh and five, and I'm sure he's 150 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: frustrated about not being more of a remedy to solve 151 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: the problem. But you know, recently married, elected captain, eight 152 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: figure contract. Life's good lap. Let's talk about this year's 153 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: rookie class. Jonah Williams is obviously out. Nothing the Bengals 154 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: could do about that. Their second round pick, tight Andrew 155 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: Sample is in for fifteen snaps last week. He's played 156 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 1: sixty seven snaps on offense through five games. Third round 157 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: pick linebacker Jermaine Pratt in for nine snaps last week. 158 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: He's been in thirty four on defense through five games. 159 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: Is it time for that to change? I think it is. 160 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: I think it's time to take the reins off the rookies, 161 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: or take the training wheels off the bike and let 162 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: the rookies ride. You know. Lu and Umu in our 163 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: conversation that everybody in the media had with him earlier 164 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: in the week, was pointing out the fact that, look 165 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: what Arizona did. They ran ten personnel, one back, four wides, 166 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: no tight ends, you know, just one back, four wide 167 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: receivers a high percent of almost like sixty percent of 168 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: the time. Well, they lost a couple of receivers to injury. 169 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: They were going as much as twelve personnel, one back 170 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: and two tight ends, and they didn't even they weren't 171 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: even playing a tight end. They would go eleven personnel 172 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: with one of the tight ends twelve personnel and that 173 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: changed the gap responsibilities and the assignments in the running game. 174 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: And it took the Bengals a while to adjust, and 175 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: they really did never adjust to it all that well, 176 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: to the two to two hundred and sixty sixty yards. 177 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: So why not Cincinnati do the same thing, I mean, 178 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: why not give the Baltimore Ravens a little bit more 179 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: to think about. I mean, Baltimore utilizes their tight ends. 180 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: Three of their top five receivers are tight ends. So 181 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: they put them out there, they throw it to him, 182 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: and they have more than one out there to block, 183 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: and you know, why not go to a little bit 184 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: of that style of offense. Give them a taste of 185 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: their own medicine. I guess a little bit, because I mean, 186 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: you draft a kid in the second round, you don't 187 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: draft them just to block, you know, on short yarriage 188 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: and goal line situations or whatever the case may be. 189 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: And I think he's proven that. I think he can 190 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: be a factor. It can be a viable factor. So 191 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: let let him roll a little bit. And then you know, 192 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: at the linebacker position, with all the problems that there 193 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: they have at the linebacker position, I mean, pratt Is 194 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: is probably overall the most athletic of all of them. 195 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: And obviously, you know, like Lewis talking about earlier again, 196 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, I'm telling them just this one gap, don't 197 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: worry about anything else. Just hit this gap. And it's 198 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: not one hundred percent of the time that maybe maybe 199 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: he's doing it, because you know, he's he said, he's 200 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: a kid that wants to please people, and maybe he's 201 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: trying to do too much, maybe he's press them a 202 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: little bit. But at some point you get to let 203 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: them get out there. And the only the only way 204 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: you can improve in the NFL is to experience it. 205 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: To stand there and watch it is nothing. Believe me, 206 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: it's nothing like being out there and experiencing what it's like, 207 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: the speed of the game, how quickly you have to 208 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: adjust all the things you have to do, both mentally 209 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: and physically. So I think it's it's time to let 210 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: these guys, uh, you know, step up and see what 211 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: they can do. The Baltimore Ravens are a three four 212 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: defense with two massive defensive tackles up front three hundred 213 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: and forty five pounds and three hundred and thirty six pounds, 214 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,599 Speaker 1: and they're probably bigger than that. If you were a 215 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, philosophically, would you be a three four guy 216 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: or a four three guy? It would depend on my personnel. 217 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: I mean, if I if I came to an organization, 218 00:11:55,040 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, blank slate, I mean, I think the three 219 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: four defense is you have you have to draft well 220 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: for it. You have to draft the right guys. Um, 221 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: you know, I see, I see benefits to both of them. Um, 222 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: having played the center position, if you have a nose guard, 223 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: they can dominate. I can tell you that that that 224 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: that makes it tough on everybody when you have it, 225 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: when you have a big old beast that's inverting the 226 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: center all the time. Um, you know, it's just like 227 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: anywhere you want to be solid up the middle and 228 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: baseball shortstops center field, you know, catcher and if you 229 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: can be solid up the middle of a lacious nose guard, 230 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, in a like an inside linebacker at the 231 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: next level to boot and a safety that's that's assaulting 232 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: in the middle of football field. Man, that you know, 233 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 1: you're making people go side and the sideways go go outside. 234 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, unless like unless I have 235 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: two beasts inside a defensive tackle, I mean that you 236 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: know that that's that's great as well. But I just 237 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: think that in a three to four it's I think 238 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: it's harder to run against. I think it's harder to 239 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: get that initial push on him, you know, But you 240 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: better have dan good linebackers to people in a throat 241 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: on you, they're going to isolate your linebackers in a 242 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: three to four defense. If you go base three four, 243 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: they're going to isolate those linebackers, and you better better 244 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: be able to be up to snuff. I'd be a 245 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: three four guy for a lot of the reasons that 246 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: you just described. Secondly, it makes you better on special 247 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: teams because you carry more linebackers, and they are ideal 248 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: special teams guys. Darren Simmons wouldn't agree with with the 249 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: with the Bengals right now. The linebackers agree with the philosophy. 250 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: Not necessarily team, no doubt. But I mean, you know 251 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: he's got some my JP Ryan. You know, he's got 252 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: a running back making huge contributions. He has players at 253 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: other position groups. Darren Simmons, in my mind, does such 254 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: an unbelievable I know we're getting off on a totally 255 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 1: different subject, but he, of any special teams coach in 256 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: the National Football League piece meals different positions into his 257 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: special teams more so I mean others. It's cookie cutter. 258 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: You know, I got these tight ends, I have these linebackers, 259 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: I have these defense about you know, it's it's like 260 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: I've got X y Z. You know, Darren will he'll 261 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: pull a receiver out of there, He'll pull a running 262 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: back out of there if he has to. I mean, 263 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: he's not a shy er embarrassed to try other things 264 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: like that. But I agree with you. Usually linebackers are 265 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: some of the best athletes on your football team from 266 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: a size speed ratio, you know kind of thing. They're 267 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: getting smaller in the NFL, but they're also getting faster, 268 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: smaller and faster. So special teams now they've taken away 269 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: double teams, they've taken away the wedge. I mean, it's 270 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: just all about matching up in space. The whole NFL 271 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: is offense defense, special teams. Who can match up in space, 272 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: who can block speed in space? Who can defeat blocks 273 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: in space? I mean, who can It is. It's all 274 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: about spreading people out as wide as you can and 275 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: in creating as much space as you can, and you 276 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: need guys that have speed and the short space quickness. 277 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: You know, you're looking for as many of those type 278 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: athletes as you can find. The Bengals defense has struggled 279 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: this year, and this Sunday they face Lamar Jackson and 280 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. Jackson has eleven touchdown passes so far. 281 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: That is as many as Patrick Mahomes. He has also 282 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: rushed for three hundred and eight yards. That's a pace 283 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: for nine eighty six this year. What is the formula 284 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: for preventing Lamar Jackson from having a monster day? And 285 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: he's rushed it in the first five games fifty times. Now, 286 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: it's not all design runs. There's scrambles in there, but 287 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: I bet half of it minimum is design runs. And 288 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: we saw it. We were the first team to see 289 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: it when he had his first NFL start. We saw 290 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: quarterback sweep, quarterback draw, quarterback counter, quarterback power. I mean, 291 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: they used him as a running back. And the thing 292 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: about it is when the quarterbacks running the football like that, 293 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: it's eleven on eleven football. It's not ten on eleven 294 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: quarterbacks not handing off and not doing anything. So you 295 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: can get an extra helmet at the point of attack, 296 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: pulling lineman and getting an extra helmet out there to 297 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: outleverage the defense. And that's that's the problem he you know, 298 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: he presents. He's averaging six point two yards to carry 299 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: on those fifty carries, so and that's part. That's a 300 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: big part of his game. But I think his pocket 301 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: presence is getting better. I think his ability to throw 302 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: the deep ball with accuracy has gotten better. I think 303 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: he's become a better quarterback, although I think he's thrown 304 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: an interception in three out of the last fourth series 305 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: that he's been on the field for the Ravens. But 306 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens were crying about a couple of the interceptions 307 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers had should have been a one should have 308 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: been a rule non catch on the interception. The other 309 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: one should have been past interference. But you know they 310 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: go on the record books as interceptions, so I guess 311 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: they're not blatant interceptions where he's forcing into a spot 312 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: where he shouldn't force, which he had done a little bit. 313 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: I think he's becoming more of a quarterback and man. 314 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: Two guys back to back that are basically the epitome 315 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: of what you're looking for in the NFL quarterback today. 316 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: Feet and throwing on Kyler Murray last week, Lamar Jackson 317 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: this week. There's no question it's hard to stop and 318 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: very effective from an offensive standpoint. The question is is 319 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: it sustainable? Can those guys do that week after week 320 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: after week and stay on their feet? You know? The 321 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: only the thing the thing that Michael Vick did RG 322 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: three was a straight line runner, so RG three could 323 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: not avoid contact. He got blown up. I mean it 324 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: was like you watch him running. Even at Baylor, I'd 325 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: watch him running and there was no dipsy due to it. 326 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: It was just I mean, he was an Olympic caliber hurdler. 327 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: So I'd watch and I'd think, oh, man, this could 328 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: be you know, like an AUTOBONND collision. I mean, the 329 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: got there's two people on it, a high rate of 330 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: speed in it, and he took some shots, you know, 331 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: and he would stay in bounds and take the shots, 332 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: and I'm like, uh, that's not gonna bode well. These guys. 333 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: You can't get a straight hit on them if you 334 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: if it's like it's like James Brooks would say to me. 335 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 1: I'd say, JB Man, pooh, gotta put a shot. That's me, man, 336 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: that's my bad. I can't let guy take a hit 337 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: like that on me. He said. I gotta I gotta 338 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: make them. I gotta make it a glancing blow. I 339 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: can't take a full force, you know, facial shot like that. 340 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: That's what these quarterbacks do. They're so quick with short 341 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: space quickness. It's like and if you're hitting them, you 342 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: don't run up there one hundred miles an hour, like 343 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: they're run up to r G three. You have to 344 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: break it down because they'll juke you. If you're going 345 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: one hundred miles an hour and they juke you, you're 346 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: you're off in space. So I think that they have 347 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: a better chance because of those kind of things, but 348 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: they're still gonna get cought in traffic, caught in a pile. 349 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: Those are the kind of things when you get you know, 350 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: you get caught in something that you really can't control, 351 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: and somebody falls on your leg awkwardly and stuff, and 352 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: backs don't normally unless in the pocket, you know, when 353 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: the protections collapse and they may find out, but they 354 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: don't find that, you know, seven yards down the field 355 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: where four guys are gang tackle. Now you got to 356 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: worry about all these bodies in a pile and how 357 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: am I going to get contorted and twisted? So I 358 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: just keep going back to the to the same thought. 359 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: In the NFL, one hundred percent of the players are 360 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of injury risk one hundred percent of 361 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: the plays. And the little you are, the more susceptible 362 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: you are. But if you're quick as a cat, you 363 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: know that that kind of balances it out a little bit, 364 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: but man, the more you run them, the odds are 365 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: increased and they're gonna get smoked. The Baltimore Ravens have 366 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in the NFL. That is 367 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: usually the case, but Andy Dalton has historically done well 368 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: against Baltimore as a winning record against the Ravens last 369 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: year in two games, six touchdown passes, no interceptions. Why 370 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: does the red Rifle do well against the Ravens? Well? 371 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: The Thursday night game here and since and Andy last year, 372 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: they were blitzing him to death and he was tearing 373 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: them up. Aj Green had three touchdown catches in the 374 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: first half and they just backed off the blitz because 375 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: Andy was destroying them. And I'd never seen Baltimore back 376 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: off the blitz for as many snaps as they did. 377 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: When you look at last week's game, you know against Arizona, 378 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: the touchdown drive before the forty two yard touchdown to Boyd, 379 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: they were blitzing like crazy. They were bringing all their 380 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: pressure packages. That's when he played the best. He got 381 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: rid of the football. He can really pre snap, diagnose 382 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: the blitz pretty well and know the vacated spot that 383 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: he has to go to. At the football and he 384 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: does it very well. He does it as well as 385 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: most quarterbacks in the NFL. So I think it's going 386 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: to be interesting to see if Baltimore comes out with 387 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: as heavy a blitz percentages as they have in the past, 388 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: because he torched them with it twice last year, really, 389 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: particularly in that Thursday night game, and I thought his 390 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: best drive of quite a few quarters came against a 391 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: pot of we're gonna get after him, we're gonna blitz him, 392 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: and he made him pay. They went on a nice 393 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: touchdown drive there where they mixed the run in the 394 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: pass and as he's releasing the ball, he's getting stung. 395 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they're hitting him hard, but he realizes, you know, 396 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: I got to stand in there and throw it and 397 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to throw it to where that guy should be. 398 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: He was hitting me and he did it very well. 399 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: The trade deadline is three weeks away. It's two days 400 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: after the London game in Week eight. What would it 401 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: take for the Bengals to consider trading some of their 402 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: best veterans. You know, in a league where it's very competitive, 403 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: fifty percent of the games are decided by a touchdown 404 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: or less. Twenty five percent of decided by a field 405 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: goal or less, and the Bengals were looking at that 406 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: kind of ratio. Unfortunately, they haven't won any of those 407 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: close ones. So you're saying, what can we do to 408 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: get better? Everybody's always trying to get better, and not 409 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: just necessarily the last third of your roster, the bottom third. 410 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: What's wrong with improving anywhere in your roster? So to me, 411 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I certainly wouldn't disconnect my phone. I'd listen 412 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: to phone calls. I mean, I'd listen to people. I'd 413 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: see what they're talking about. Anyway. That wouldn't necessarily mean 414 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: I'd pull the trigger on anything, but man, I'd at 415 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: least see what the market is bearing out there, you know, 416 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: I mean, why not explore that and you know, and 417 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: maybe initiate something. You don't have to do it, but 418 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: call and say, anybody on our roster that appeals to you? 419 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: And if so, what do you got for me? What 420 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: are we talking about here? I mean, there's nothing wrong 421 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: with exploring it. You know, players understand, particularly the dollars 422 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: in the NFL now fourteen billion dollar industry. The players 423 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: know they're independent contractors on a weekly basis. It's a business. 424 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: So I mean, if you know, if it's not here, 425 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: it might be somewhere else. People move all the time. 426 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: Trades aren't a real big, high percentage thing in the 427 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: National Football League as the salary cap consequences and all 428 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: those kinds of things. But I mean, you never know 429 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: till you explore. If you just if you sit idly 430 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: by and do nothing, who knows what might have been 431 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: a possibility Thanks Lap. The Baltimore Ravens have one of 432 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: the top cornerbacks in the NFL and Marlon Humphrey, and 433 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: he typically shadows the other team's top receiver. In the 434 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: last two weeks, that's been Odell Beckham Junior of the 435 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: Browns and Juju Smith Schuster of the Steelers, and they 436 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: combined for a total of ninety five yards against the Ravens. 437 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: That means it could be tough for Tyler Boyd to 438 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: put up huge numbers this week. If Andy Dalton looks elsewhere. 439 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: One of his primary targets figures to be Auden Tate. 440 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 1: I spoke to the second year receiver out of Florida 441 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: State this week. We are in the locker room Bengals 442 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: wide receiver Auden Tate, who caught his first career touchdown 443 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: passed last week. How big of a moment was that 444 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: for you? It was a big, big moment for me, 445 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, getting that first says down. I hit a 446 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: little bit of sweet because I dropped the first one, 447 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: But no, it's good to get that first one out 448 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: of the way. You've been very hard on yourself about 449 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: that drop, A little slant on the opening possession. I 450 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: guess in your own mind, if you hold under that ball, 451 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: there's no question you're in. Oh yeah, no question, no question, 452 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm in right to two yards away that point, I 453 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: could pretty much just try to care man, just getting 454 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: the ends on. So yeah, I was pretty sure I 455 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: was gonna get in there. You're talking to y'ard and take. 456 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: It was kind of shocking because since you've been here 457 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: at the beginning of last year, the one thing you 458 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: haven't done is drop anything. Uh yeah, you know. It 459 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: was just thing, you know, a little high violations taking 460 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: taking my eyes off the ball too soon, looking to 461 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: get up Phil, I'm gonna get into pain just you know, 462 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: got to focus on the ball mode. Nay J. Green 463 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: is obviously still out, Sean Ross is out as well. 464 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: You've become a focal point of the passing game right now. 465 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: I guess that's something that you dream of when you 466 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: get the opportunity to play in the NFL. You know, definitely, 467 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: you know, definitely, you know, coming into the NFL, starting 468 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: to be more in a game planning and offense, you know, 469 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: definitely something you know you work for and you know 470 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: dream about, you know, since he was young. So you know, 471 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm just happy for the opportunity. It's just ready to 472 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 1: take full advantage of top two passing weapons right now 473 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: have been you and Tyler Boy. Tyler had ten catches 474 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: last week. He's on a pace for one hundred and 475 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: eighteen this season. What do you notice most when you 476 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: observe him, I says, mentality. You know, you gotta you 477 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: gotta real kill mentality. You know anything as well, you know, 478 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: you just try to kill it, no no matter how big, small, 479 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: whatever it is. You just gotta real kill mentality. And 480 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: I think you know everybody see it. On Sundays, smile 481 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: came to your face when you talked about that killer mentality. Yeah, yeah, 482 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: because that that man is a funny guy. If you 483 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: was around him, like, you don't know what I mean, 484 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: but yeah, you gotta killer mindset. We're on that field. 485 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: Ardy came from Florida State, won a lot of games there. 486 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: How difficult it isn't one and five started for you personally? Um, 487 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's difficult to know, mostly for the summer 488 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: fact of knowing that you know, we're not an O 489 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: and five team, but you I mean, that's what I record, 490 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: so so I mean that's what we are. But you know, 491 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: knowing how easily you know, this easily could be three 492 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: and two or you know, maybe something else. So that's 493 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: really the only disappointing thing other than that, you know, 494 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: we know what we can do, and you know we're 495 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: just ready to get back on track. We score touchdowns 496 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: in your final two possessions in last week's game against 497 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Did that generate any sort of momentum going 498 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: into Baltimore this week? Oh? Yeah, I think it did. 499 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: I mean, especially how fast we scoring, how effortlessly. It 500 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: kind of looked, you know, it looked like we just 501 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: kind of just planning, you know, we weren't thinking doing nothing, 502 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 1: just planning. So I think it definitely does build up 503 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: something that we could use going into Baltimore. She get 504 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: the Ravens this week. Historically, a very good defense. Not 505 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: off to a great start defensively this year. But Marlin 506 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: Humphreys playing great at cornerback. Where are you impressions of him? 507 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: Got a good skill set, you know, it's talented a 508 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: corner you know, it pays plays press, real physical, you know, 509 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: just want you know, just win against Himore Man. Maybe 510 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: we're going against a lot of good corners here too, 511 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: so I think you know we'll be there for and 512 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: a veteran safety in the middle. Now that they picked 513 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: up ear Old Thomas, who of course had so many 514 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: great years out in Seattle, what do you notice about him? 515 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: Real savvy. You know he ain't the biggest person on 516 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 1: the field, but he played big. You know he got 517 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: he got that killer, killer instinct type of mind, sat 518 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: too when he bat well. Like I said, you know, 519 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: he's just going Now, just do what we gotta do, 520 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 1: prepare ourselves. You know we'll be fine. A couple more 521 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: questions for Auden take one of the big plays last 522 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: week was the touchdown past the Tyler Boyd and you 523 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: help make it happen with a block. It seems like 524 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: that's a part of your game that you embrace. Oh yeah, yeah, 525 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with, you know, going in 526 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: out blocking some of the bigger guys. I was asked 527 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: to do a lot of fluid state or something up 528 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: comfortable and congrats on that TV last week. I hope 529 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: there are many more. And best of luck against the Ravens. Yes, sir, 530 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: will be that's home to take. Now time for this 531 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: week's No the Foe interview as we do a deep 532 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: dive into the Bengals upcoming opponent with somebody that knows 533 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: the team. This week it's the voice of the Ravens, 534 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: Jerry with a G. Sandusky. He joined Lapping Me on 535 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: the Bengals Game Plan show this week and made Bengals 536 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: Radio Network history by doing the interview while getting his 537 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: hair cut. Our first topic the play off quarterback Lamar 538 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: Jackson through Baltimore's first five games this season. Well, I 539 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: think what you see with Lamar Jackson is pretty traditional 540 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: what you see in the journey of a young NFL 541 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: quarterback in that he opened up with much better skills 542 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: than anybody anticipated. His development was far above what anybody 543 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: thought from a year ago. And then in the last 544 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: two weeks we have seen teams adjust what they're doing 545 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: defensively they've grown some different looks. He hasn't adjusted quite 546 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: as well. This last week against the Steelers, he had 547 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: his lowest quarterback rating, his highest interception count, and then 548 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: most sacks he's taken in the game. So he did 549 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: not have a particularly strong game, which is going to 550 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: happen to young guys. But the thing I like the 551 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: most about Lamar Jackson is he has a quality that 552 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: I haven't seen in young quarterbacks since Dan Marino. And 553 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: I'll take get back to Marino in the eighties with 554 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: the Dolphins because my dad was the offensive line coach 555 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: and he used to always say Marino as a young 556 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: player if he had a three interception game, which is rare, 557 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: but on a third interception, he walked to the sideline 558 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: be all mad, cussing my dad and say, bleeve be bleep, 559 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 1: Now I've got to throw four touchdown passes to win. 560 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: He always had the mindset up what he had to 561 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: do yet to win the game. And Lamar Jackson has 562 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: that same thing. He doesn't get all hung up in 563 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: his quarterback rating or I've thrown to three interceptions. It's 564 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: always what do I need to do next to make 565 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: sure we win the game. So in the overtime of 566 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: the Steelers game, he's in danger of his sixth sack 567 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: that's going to knock the Ravens out of field goal range, 568 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 1: and instead he just makes a quick heads up decision 569 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: to scramble to the left where he can get back 570 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage and preserve the field goal range. 571 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: So that's the thing I do like about him, even 572 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: as he goes to his learning curve. By the way, 573 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: your dad was a hell of an offensive line coach. 574 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: I had him in one of the College All Star Games. 575 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: A great dancer too. He get up and cut a 576 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: rug now at one of the one of the dinners. 577 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: That was pretty outstanding. He had great feat was right, great, 578 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,479 Speaker 1: look my dad. Now you can hear the buzzers going, 579 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: good now my dad. That I'm always of NBA three. 580 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: Really he was a great coach. But he could dance 581 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: and he could oh yeah, yeah, you're right, he was. 582 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: He had he had like a Pavarotti caliber voice, and 583 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: he could dance. And because I was always fascinated by 584 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: the fact that my dad was this huge man, a 585 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: former pro player and he could dance so well. From 586 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: that point forward, I personally think the combines a waste 587 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: of time. If you want to find out who is 588 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: eligible to play offensive line in the NFL, take him, 589 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: put him on a dance floor, and see who's light 590 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: under feet, because I think that is a truer test 591 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: of who has the DNA necessary to be an NFL 592 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Dancing with the stars NFL combine style. I 593 00:30:52,160 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: love it. Maybe that part of the exactly exactly so 594 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: obviously the running game is making a life a lot 595 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: easier for Lamar Jackson. He's a big part of the 596 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: running game. Ingram has seventy four carries, He has fifty, 597 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: Edwards has thirty eight. I mean that is a three 598 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: headed monster in anybody's book. That all of them are averaging, 599 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: you know, great yards per carry Ingram six rushing touchdowns, 600 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: tied for second most in the NFL. How good has 601 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: that rushing game been, averaging over one hundred and ninety 602 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: two yards a game and leading the NFL and points 603 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: scored as a result of it. It's been spectacular because 604 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: it's not just a one dimensional running game. When they 605 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: were not got mark Ingram, they really completed their ability 606 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: to run at any angle around the field. Mcgus Edwards 607 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: is a wrecking ball. He's going to go between garden center. 608 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: He's just going to He's one cut, he's gonna slam 609 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: right at the middle. Ingram takes you all the way 610 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 1: out to the tackle, and then Lamar takes you all 611 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: the way to the sideline. So the ability to stretched 612 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: defenses out with very different styles of runners, you know, 613 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: it makes it really hard for a defensive coordinator say, Okay, 614 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna take this area of the field away from 615 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: this running back. You can do that, but you still 616 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: are going to be vulnerable in other areas. We are 617 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: visiting with the voice of the Ravens, Jerry Sandusky. Statistically, 618 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: Baltimore has struggled against the pass, giving up two hundred 619 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: and eighty yards a game. But I wonder if that's 620 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: just because teams have a hard time running against those 621 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: gigantic tackles. How tell me how accurate the statistics are. 622 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: They're unfortunately very accurate. Then the Ravens path defense has 623 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: had some scaping holes, and the fluke of the running 624 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: numbers was the one game when Brandon Williams wasn't able 625 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: to go because of a knee injury. He's the difference 626 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: maker in the run defense. When he's in there, they 627 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: give up on average about ninety four yards a game. 628 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: When he's not in there, they gave up one hundred 629 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: and seventy four yards a game. So the one game 630 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: when he's not in there, Yeah, those numbers are a 631 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: little bit misleading, but the secondaries numbers are I would 632 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: say very accurate. I mean, they have not been good 633 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: in the secondary. The effect communication breakdown, They've had coverage breakdowns. 634 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: Their pass rush has been inconsistent, quarterbacks have had way 635 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: too much time to throw, and they have been beating 636 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: that secondary for chunk plays, which is just so unusual 637 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: for the Ravens on all levels that you know, the 638 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: numbers are real and the concern is real as well. 639 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: I want to go back to the offense for just 640 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: a second and talk about the tight ends. You guys 641 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: have had some great tight ends, you know, individual players 642 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: in your franchise history. But this group of tight ends 643 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: is it as good as you've had. I mean, three 644 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: of the top five receivers for Jackson or tight ends, 645 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at Andrews, He's got fifteen third down 646 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: catches on twenty eight receptions. I mean that's you know, 647 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: he's Number one in the NFL and third down catches. 648 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: He's got three touchdown receptions. The tight ends seem to be, 649 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: you know, not only a factor in the running game, 650 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: but they can catch the football pretty damn well you 651 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: hit it right on the head. And that not only 652 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: do they have three good tight ends, but just like 653 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,239 Speaker 1: the running backs, the three tight ends compliment each other. 654 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: Nick Boyle is a power blocker. He is the kind 655 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: of guy who can line up in the backfield on 656 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: the wing as a fullback and bring the noise. Mark 657 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: Andrews has a unique skill that only football players will understand. 658 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: This he's ordinary. Looking at OTA's coming out of college, 659 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: I even thought, why did the Ravens draft his kids 660 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: in the third round? There's nothing special about him. And 661 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: then when you put them on pad pads put him 662 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: in a game. He has the ability to find the 663 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: open spot in the zone and to settle down better 664 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,720 Speaker 1: than anybody I've ever seen since maybe Todd Heap, Shannon 665 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: Sharp that that good of a player, and then Hayden 666 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: Hurst last years number one. Tick has really started to emerge. 667 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: I think he probably is the best hands of the group. 668 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: So you've got three different guys who can stretch the fields. 669 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: Who can do the blocking, who can really open up 670 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: number to number for Lamar Jackson, And they're set up 671 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: by Hollywood Brown Speed. So that's the conundrum, you know. 672 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: Moving forward, we talked about the defense and making some adjustments. 673 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: I think you'll see the Ravens make some adjustments starting 674 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: this week. Look at you want to take Hollywood Brown 675 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: Speed away. That means you've got to take your safeties 676 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: far to on the field. You can't put him fifteen 677 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: yards off the line of scrimmage. And once you do that, 678 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: then you open up that middle area. And that's why 679 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: the tight ends are having so much success because you 680 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: can't take away three tight ends and Hollywood Brown. There 681 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: just aren't enough guys in the back end of a 682 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 1: secondary to do that. Right. We're visiting with a voice 683 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: of the Ravens. Jerry Sandusky will have a great looking 684 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: haircut when he's in the booth on Sunday clippers in 685 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: the background. Hats My hair is great, but I don't 686 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: have great hair, so you can only do so much. 687 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: Trust me. I feel your pains unfair, Sorry about that, Yeah, 688 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,760 Speaker 1: that's all right. Justin Tucker is the best kicker in NFL. History. 689 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: He hasn't missed a kick yet yet this year, field 690 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: goal or extra point. But I'm intrigued by the kickoffs 691 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: because he has become the best weapon at pinning teams 692 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: deep in their own territory in the league. Describe what 693 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 1: the Ravens are doing when they kick off. So it's 694 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: really a great move by Christ their special teams coordinator, 695 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: and John Hardball, who has a special team's background, And 696 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: we've all kind of grown customs the last couple of 697 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: years of the day rigger kickoff, touchback, kickoff, touchback. Well, 698 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the Raibos started to ship 699 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: and they use this really high, short kickoff and the 700 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: first time I saw it, I thought, whoa, he must 701 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: have gotten too low under the ball, and then I realized, no, 702 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: that's totally intentional. They're using the punt mentality on the kickoff, 703 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: and they're forcing teams to return kicks that they have 704 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: to catch the five yard line, but they have no 705 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: time to set up any kind of blocking, so the 706 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 1: return is getting only out about the fifteen sixteen yard line, 707 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: And instead of teams starting on the twenty five, they're 708 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: starting inside their own twenty because of the way Tucker 709 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,479 Speaker 1: has been able to make the adjustment to pin people 710 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: back with a high short kickoff fifteen point six yards 711 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: per kickoff return, second best in the NFL due to 712 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: that strategy. And yeah, I mean leave it to John 713 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 1: Harbaugh and others to utilize. You know this this guy's talents. 714 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: He is without a doubt. I mean, the way he 715 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: played that wind in Pittsburgh, all the fans in the 716 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: end zon't going crazy. You think it's gonna go, you know, 717 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: wide left, and just plays that plays that fade right 718 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: back through the uprights and broke their hearts. I mean, 719 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: this guy is He's is dominant his position. I think 720 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: as anybody is at their position in the NFL, I 721 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: would agree. I mean, statistically he's the most accurate. But 722 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,919 Speaker 1: you know the statistics can lie. What doesn't lie about 723 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: Justin Tucker is we were talking about my dad was 724 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: a great singer. We Justin Tucker is an opera singer too, 725 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: and he right the stage. He loves the spotlight, he 726 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: loves the performance. So when the spotlight is on him, 727 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: when the game is on him, when that pressure that 728 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: cracks a lot of kickers is on him, it brings 729 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: him to live and he just kind of steps into it, 730 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: and he's so natural. He loves that moment, and he 731 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: has proven he is quite good at that moment. So 732 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: in your I know, it's early in the week, and 733 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how many conversations you've had, you know, 734 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: with members of the Baltimore organization, particularly the coaches. I 735 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: just curry. Has anybody said anything about the on five 736 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: start and what they think of the Cincinnati Bengals at 737 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: this stage of Zach Taylor's tenure. You know, it's really interesting, Dave, 738 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 1: because if you were, let's say you were a team 739 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: winner player all the time, say you were the Denver 740 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: Broncos or maybe the La Rams, and you were off 741 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: to an on five start, there'd be a lot of 742 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: talk about that, especially with a rookie head coach. But 743 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: because you have so many players who are familiar that 744 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: the Ravens have played against, and because the Bengals have 745 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: been so successful against the Ravens and the Ravens frustrations 746 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: have been consistent and enormous, there is literally nobody talking 747 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: about the Bengals record. The only record they're focusing on 748 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,720 Speaker 1: is the record the Bengals have had against the Ravens. 749 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: In recent years, so the respect is a lot higher 750 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: than you might expect with an on five record. Bengals 751 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: and Ravens have split the regular season matchups in each 752 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: of the last three years, but prior to that, Cincinnati 753 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: beat Baltimore five straight times. That's going to do it 754 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: for this edition of the podcast. If you haven't done 755 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: so already, don't forget to subscribe, and if you have 756 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: a minute, give it a rating or share a comment. 757 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: Five star ratings help more Bengals fans find this podcast. 758 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm Dan Horde and thank you for listening to The 759 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth podcast.