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Speaker 1: Grantings a welcome in another beautiful night here.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with Me, Mike Harman,

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Speaker 2: No Jason Tonight back after the new Year, and for

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Speaker 2: me I Cap twenty twenty five as well, alongside the

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Speaker 2: sticking genius Arnie Span you for another night as we

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Speaker 2: seek some shelter from the storm. We got a game

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Speaker 2: with football scoring going on Arnie scoring. We got forty

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Speaker 2: five points in the first half. That's combined is better

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Speaker 2: than everything we had yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Let's stop pretending like we even care about that. And too.

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Speaker 3: How you doing the Happy day after Christmas? It's good

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Speaker 3: to hear from you again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we did that yesterday. I don't need to kiss

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Speaker 1: your ass.

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Speaker 3: It's four I was just gonna give you a compliment

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Speaker 3: saying you're really getting learning how to drive a show.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: I thinking about another eight to ten years, you'll get

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Speaker 3: the hang of it, So congratulations.

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Speaker 2: In eight to ten years, I hope to be sitting

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Speaker 2: on a porch or hanging out in a setup like

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Speaker 2: Hawkeye has got when he retreats from being an Avenger.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Linda Cardolini will be waiting there

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Speaker 2: for me, but we'll see you never can tell at

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Speaker 2: Stick and Genius one, what's en.

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Speaker 3: That's over my head? Mike, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Well, we gotta we gotta get you. You gotta have some

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Speaker 2: of the more current pop culture references.

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Speaker 1: We need to update you a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you want.

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Speaker 1: To give you a bunch of six seven references while.

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Speaker 3: We're at it? I know with that. Don't start with that, please,

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Speaker 3: that makes me sick of r.

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Speaker 2: Well, No, that just made me feel like you've at

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Speaker 2: least paid attention to something outside of some bogus Twitter accounts.

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Speaker 1: For the last couple of months.

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Speaker 2: At Sticking Genius one where you find them find me

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Speaker 2: over at swollen O my beloved Northwestern Wildcats with a

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Speaker 2: big Bowl victory earlier today. U that's about all I'll say,

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Speaker 2: Preston Stone, three touchdowns, six straight Bowl wins for the Cats,

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Speaker 2: because look, if I'm gonna sit in the and drive,

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Speaker 2: as you so actually call it, I've got to make

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Speaker 2: the show about me for a ure, Like if it

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Speaker 2: was a Mets Jets or whatever.

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Speaker 3: I thought we were gonna do four hours on the

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Speaker 3: on the game. That's why I was watching it so

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Speaker 3: intense so intently.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just take it all sorts of notes.

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Speaker 3: I was, you know, I actually had it on, and

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Speaker 3: then once they dominated, I'm like, I'm not why it

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Speaker 3: was like twenty one nothing. At one point, I'm like

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Speaker 3: to get this crap off. I can't believe.

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Speaker 1: I know what's funny though, it is like the first

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Speaker 1: quarter was terrible, right, it was punt punt. I don't

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Speaker 3: Believe that this is bringing in major ratings. I you

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Speaker 3: gonna have to show me.

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Speaker 1: You don't think it matters.

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Speaker 3: Do the math? Well, I guess they're making money off

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Speaker 3: of you. That matters.

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Speaker 2: But that's it, right, It's a TV show. It's like

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Speaker 2: all that, all the rest of it, right, So I mean,

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Speaker 2: we can start with the bowl games. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: winning him here in a moment. Pete Futec College Football

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Speaker 2: News will join us in about twenty minutes from now.

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Speaker 2: Uh talk about this hiring and and all that's going

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Speaker 2: on in bowl season as we get ready for the

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Speaker 2: Elite eight UH next week.

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Speaker 1: But you know, talking about the.

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Speaker 2: Bowl games and you know a lot of hand ringing

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Speaker 2: and and maybe it's not even drawing huge TV audiences,

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Speaker 2: but in the end, it's live programming, which means a

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Speaker 2: higher ad rate.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And folks that are going to stay with it, right,

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Speaker 2: you're not dipping even if the game starts getting out

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Speaker 2: of hand. As we've watched in many of these bowl games,

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Speaker 2: one decision here or there, you know, Northwestern not kicking

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Speaker 2: lot of folks holding tickets, Uh in states all over

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Speaker 3: Well, just if you're talking, damn, Look, the game was

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Speaker 3: so like all the other bowl games too. They're so meaningless.

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Speaker 3: It really doesn't make a difference other than meaningless.

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Speaker 2: Maybe to you, Well that to the Tell that to

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Speaker 2: the alums, Tell that to the administration. Tell that to

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Speaker 2: nobody's conference where the money flows back in off of

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Speaker 3: Nobody's spent go to that game. Nobody said I got

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Speaker 3: to go ahead and see, uh, Northwestern in a bowl

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Speaker 3: game take on Central Michigan. It's just it's not happy

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Speaker 3: and no offense against those schools. It's most of the

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Speaker 3: ball games are like that. Yeah, it's just not gonna

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Speaker 2: But it's it's the change that is inevitable in terms

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Speaker 2: the playoffs have taken over and will continue to expand.

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Speaker 2: But in the end, if if you're still in the black,

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Speaker 2: even if it's a smaller number, don't you continue to

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Speaker 3: No, because again, too many people. You see all the

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Speaker 3: people opting out. It's starting to get absolutely crazy. Coaches leaving.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know who's coaching who's not Cord.

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Speaker 2: But you can't tell me anybody's going to a bowl

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Speaker 2: a second string defensive end or a wide receiver opting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's mostly they are stars that are opting out, though, Mike.

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Speaker 3: And it's just it's it's opting way too much. How

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Speaker 3: many teams didn't even want to go to a bowl

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Speaker 3: game this year? What four or five?

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Speaker 1: You leave Notre Dame alone, they're still crying over in

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Speaker 3: That's that's also Iowa State, Kansas State. I believe it's

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Speaker 3: just it's become too much and it cost them a

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Speaker 3: you know, the cheerleaders and the band and all that stuff,

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Speaker 3: and it's just not worth it anymore. We've we've passed it. Look,

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Speaker 3: you've got to evolve and that's that's what we're doing.

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Speaker 3: That's why we have a playoff. Now, we'll go from

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Speaker 3: sixteen to twenty four, probably eventually end up with thirty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we get to thirty six, that would be a

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Speaker 1: Be dead and gone before that happens.

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Speaker 2: According to the report, they had nearly twenty eight thousand

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Speaker 3: They must have counted everybody three times. Then what can I.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps they did tickets sold versus those that attended versus

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Speaker 3: Family and friends only.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But it's all all of that to say is

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Speaker 2: it's still a TV show. It's still live programming for

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Speaker 2: three three hours. And if I financially it was absolutely

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Speaker 3: But it's not going away like you said.

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Speaker 1: It's like I said, someone's making money.

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Speaker 2: Even if somebody's making money but playing it, they're bleeding

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Speaker 1: It's like, we didn't make any money. It's like, how

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Speaker 3: You think watch that game from start to finish? Saying

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Speaker 3: And I'll even give you the people that made a

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Speaker 2: Generally people that bet don't they might not look at

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Speaker 3: So I just don't think there was much interest. Nobody cares.

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Speaker 3: And again that's I think that's what ninety percent of

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Speaker 3: the ball games now that we have a playoff, that's

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Speaker 3: what people want to see. That's what people are talking about.

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Speaker 3: And we still are getting that.

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Speaker 1: How people are getting on board that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well people were complaining about James Madison and Tulane

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's always going to be tweaks. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's a system that because you've got so many powers

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Speaker 1: Let's go through.

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Speaker 2: And then certainly the ratings and the game results didn't

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Speaker 2: it was opposite one ended up being a fantastic Bears

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Speaker 3: You know, you say that people are still watching these

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Speaker 2: It's five million people on a Saturday night in the holiday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it went up against the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And I love Lucy sixty years ago.

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Speaker 3: You know, look at the you know what so funny

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Speaker 3: we're talking about like ten shows that that those those

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Speaker 2: It was crazy, but yeah, but that's that's a long

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, buddy, I gotta call it what it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Now you're so fractured. Add to the fact that you

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Speaker 2: like that twenty eight thousand US for the ford Field

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Speaker 2: Bowl game today. But when we get into the fractionalization

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Speaker 2: have in terms of streaming and how you consume thing

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Speaker 2: and when when it counts? Right, if I watch it

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Speaker 2: a week after premieres, how does does it count differently

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Speaker 2: because I came in off what a mouth? Shouldn't they

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Speaker 2: Because that meant it must have meant something, you know

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Speaker 1: So it's it's just that curiosity, Like we.

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Speaker 2: Got beat futech coming up in a couple of minutes,

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Speaker 2: but a quick reaction as we get the conversation started tonight,

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Speaker 2: Winningham get headed to the University of Michigan. You go

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Speaker 2: back into the timeline. Sharon Moore was fired on December tenth.

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Speaker 2: Winningham resigned on December twelfth. There was a coach in

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Speaker 2: waiting that was put in place there at Utah in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, Scalley. So he's been waiting for his opportunity,

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Speaker 2: and as we know from historical precedence, guys get a

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Speaker 2: incumbent is going to stay. The private equity terms were announced,

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Speaker 2: and then Winningham doesn't say he's retiring, It says he's

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Speaker 2: You had bra you had, as you mentioned debor like

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Speaker 2: Some of it it becomes the what what's going to

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Speaker 1: No, I'm saying there's room for growth.

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Speaker 3: He's gone anyway, so they're gonna have to get them.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Pete, how you doing? My friend? It's good to

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Speaker 7: I know I settled buying to this post narrative that

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Speaker 1: Pete. That was one of the things we're talking about

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Speaker 7: uh yeah, you know who cares all the sausages. Maybe

441
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Speaker 7: got a national title under Harbaugh and all that, so yeah,

442
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Speaker 7: you got you want a fresh start. And you know,

443
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Speaker 7: outside of you know the basic you know, normal you know,

444
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Speaker 7: big college little stuff here and there. There hasn't been

445
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Speaker 7: a whiff of scandal at Utah. There's those issues there.

446
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Speaker 7: And I go on a bunch of radio stations in

447
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Speaker 7: Utah over the years, and I've always comped what he's

448
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 7: been doing to being like a big, big ten program,

449
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 7: like he made Utah essentially the new Wisconsin back when

450
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Speaker 7: Wisconsin was Wisconsin, where big guys on the line. You know,

451
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Speaker 7: it's grew up on penalties or turnover. As you win

452
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 7: the time possession battle, you run, run, run. You have

453
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Speaker 7: guys up front who are more powerful than everyone else,

454
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Speaker 7: play tough defense, and that's possible to do if you

455
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Speaker 7: have an ultra culture discipline team and the side that

456
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Speaker 7: they were able to get worked great. They made a

457
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Speaker 7: tweak to more of a pro style offense. Unfortunately had

458
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Speaker 7: a hard time finding the right quarterback with Cam Rising

459
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Speaker 7: always hurt. So now let's see what they do. I

460
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Speaker 7: can't imagine the price Underwood takes off. And if he

461
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Speaker 7: does find just go get another quarterback, because again you're Michigan,

462
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Speaker 7: you can pretty much get whatever you want there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but Kim Rising does have another year left.

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Speaker 7: I saw that.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Is that that's let me ask you about Underwood. I

467
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Speaker 3: thought he was going to leave. What did you think

468
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Speaker 3: about him when when he signed a year ago? And

469
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Speaker 3: what do you think about him right now? It doesn't

470
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Speaker 3: sound like you're really would be broken up if he

471
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Speaker 3: ended up leaving.

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Speaker 7: I'm not broke. I mean really, it's about just the

473
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Speaker 7: position and the program and you can get to quarterbacks

474
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Speaker 7: that there's so many quarterback out there in the system, right,

475
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Speaker 7: It's so crazy all these guys who are jumping into

476
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Speaker 7: the portal, like where do they think they're going to go?

477
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Speaker 7: Like there are only so many jobs that are open

478
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Speaker 7: and Okay, so maybe they're looking for extra money. Maybe

479
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Speaker 7: they're looking for the deal like Darius meant to got

480
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Speaker 7: last year jumping from Tulane to Duke and you know,

481
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Speaker 7: got paid a big ton of money and hey won

482
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Speaker 7: an ACC championship. He was really good for the Blue Devils.

483
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Speaker 7: Maybe that's what some of these guys are looking for.

484
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Speaker 7: But all these guys are in the portal. Okay, well,

485
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Speaker 7: let's see if they can fit certain places. And then

486
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Speaker 7: all of a sudden, what happens. Do you have a

487
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Speaker 7: Trinidad Chambliss or someone like that who comes from out

488
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Speaker 7: of nowhere and is one of the Heisman savorites, or

489
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Speaker 7: even Fernando Mendozo was a hot prospect but definitely not

490
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Speaker 7: quite this. So you never quite know. And so all

491
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Speaker 7: these big time guys who you have all the talent

492
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Speaker 7: in the world. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: You know.

494
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Speaker 7: Sometimes you have a guy like Dante Moore who wasn't

495
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Speaker 7: really that great at UCLA, came back set for a

496
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Speaker 7: year and all of a sudden, boom it works. But

497
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Speaker 7: I don't fail that to say that I don't think

498
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Speaker 7: Underwood would.

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Speaker 2: Leave now Jason Smith Show with Me, Mike Harman, the

500
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Speaker 2: Venerable Arnie Span you're in for Jason Smith. Pete deferred

501
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: to him like you know all non Western cultures to

502
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Speaker 2: their elders. The way this thing started at College Football

503
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Speaker 2: News is where you find him at Pete futec Pete.

504
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 2: Let's go to the world of litigation, where you've got

505
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Speaker 2: Pavia looking to get.

506
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Speaker 1: Himself an extra year.

507
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: Going off to James Nausey move drafted in twenty twenty

508
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 2: three to the NBA Draft, traded, his rights are part

509
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 2: were conferred to the Knicks, and now he's gonna go

510
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Speaker 2: become a Baylor Bear. Why do you think this plays out?

511
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: And did his Heisman Shenanigans costume?

512
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Speaker 7: I don't have the problem with that. The Heisman thing is,

513
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Speaker 7: you know, just immature. Okay, fine, but I kind of

514
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 7: you know, he basically did what every Heisman loser really thinks.

515
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Speaker 7: They just don't say it out loud. But that's of course,

516
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 7: you see to look at like Peyton Manning Space or

517
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 7: you know, some of these other guys who thought they

518
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Speaker 7: were going to win and didn't even though he wasn't

519
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Speaker 7: gonna win the Hide of this Year Pavio, So uh, yeah,

520
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,479
Speaker 7: there's a little delusion there, But yeah, I'm getting these

521
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 7: are still you know, relatively young kids, you know, to

522
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Speaker 7: the most parts of probably who's like, what's forty two

523
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Speaker 7: at this point? I mean, it's uh good, go get

524
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Speaker 7: a job already, I guess, or just stay or just

525
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Speaker 7: stay in college as long as you can. What I

526
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Speaker 7: get it, You know, I would be not looking back.

527
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Speaker 7: I'd love to be back in college and live the life.

528
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Speaker 7: You know again, who.

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Speaker 2: Would look for it to John Cougar Mellencamp, hold on

530
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Speaker 2: to sixteen as long as you can.

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Speaker 7: Especially getting paid for it now, I mean, like it's

532
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Speaker 7: a great deal. I mean, you get paid more than

533
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Speaker 7: you get paid as an NFL rookie, So, uh, I

534
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Speaker 7: get it. So give it a shot, see what you

535
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Speaker 7: can do. But at some point this is getting kind

536
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Speaker 7: of ridiculous, Like I still think the most the craziest

537
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Speaker 7: part through all this is during this Bowl season, a

538
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 7: lot of teams had to opt out. Why because they

539
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 7: couldn't find their players because they scattered. And like when

540
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Speaker 7: this happened, every other college kid on the planet was

541
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Speaker 7: studying for finals. Like you're so these guys aren't like

542
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Speaker 7: studying for finals.

543
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Speaker 4: You can't grab enough students.

544
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Speaker 7: Who are you know, college students to play college football.

545
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Speaker 4: I mean, so it's just.

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Speaker 7: Like, come on, It's just it's just getting kind of

547
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Speaker 7: ridiculous at this point when you get guys who just

548
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Speaker 7: won't leave.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, pet of course, before I say, oh,

550
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Speaker 3: let's break down the playoffs in the Miami Ohio State

551
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Speaker 3: and Oregon, Texas Tech and stuff like that, if I

552
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Speaker 3: told you we're going to spend the next twenty minutes

553
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 3: breaking down FIU in Texas, San Antonio and then switch

554
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Speaker 3: over to the Central Michigan Northwestern game and then Minnesota

555
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Speaker 3: New Mexico, You're going to hang up the phone on me.

556
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Speaker 3: Enough is enough? Enough enough?

557
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Speaker 1: We did money.

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Speaker 7: I don't care if it's Indiana perfect by you over, Pete,

559
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Speaker 7: you know, day over.

560
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,479
Speaker 3: No, enough is enough. Nobody cares about the game. I

561
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 3: really don't believe that it has television numbers. Nobody's going

562
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Speaker 3: to the game. They tried to tell me that twenty

563
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Speaker 3: three thousand or the Northwestern game. I'm not buying it.

564
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Speaker 3: I just don't think we need it anymore, especially when

565
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Speaker 3: we started expanding the playoff. I mean, seriously, Pete, anybody

566
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Speaker 3: asking you to break down any of these or any

567
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Speaker 3: of these other Bowl games. I mean tomorrow we got

568
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Speaker 3: a whole slew of them. Not what makes a difference,

569
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Speaker 3: Not one care you care about Pete.

570
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Speaker 7: Well here's the thing, yet, we kind of maybe care

571
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 7: about Clemson ten State if you're you know, a nationally,

572
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 7: But there's so many of them, and look, what else

573
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 7: are you gonna do? Talk to your family? I mean,

574
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 7: what else you got going on? I mean, especially if

575
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 7: you live in a place that's cold. I mean, you know,

576
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 7: there's nothing to do. You're you're gonna watch you know

577
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 7: another you know, the born identity, the marathon that keeps

578
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Speaker 7: happening on start. I mean, like, look, here's the thing.

579
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Speaker 7: First of all, the problem is these bowl games unlike

580
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 7: that other than the Hawaii Bowl and this the rate

581
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 7: Ball between New Mexico and Miss Minnesota, these bowl games

582
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 7: have been awful. So the big, the bigger problem is

583
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Speaker 7: that just you know, who's watching these things? Who's staying

584
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 7: watching these things? Because they're just so bad and there's

585
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Speaker 7: no real reason for it because last year they were

586
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Speaker 7: really good, Like every game was competitive, every game. I mean,

587
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 7: it's not like they're not trying or anything. But you

588
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 7: just have so many disjointed teams with so many coaches

589
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 7: who are gone so many players who are you know,

590
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 7: Missmasha players who are going So it's just fun. It's like,

591
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 7: you know, trying to handicap preseason games. But like I said,

592
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 7: who's watching these things? I can tell you a very

593
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Speaker 7: large segment of the public who's trying to pay off

594
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Speaker 7: their holiday gift giving.

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Speaker 4: What's going on as we speak.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, And Pete does spots all over the country, so

597
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 2: he's got to know everything about Central Michigan and teams

598
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: of that. All right, Pete, so really quickly as we

599
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Speaker 2: get to the playoffs, you still got some days to

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Speaker 2: chop this up. What stands out amongst the four games,

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Speaker 2: you know, in terms of where you're looking for an

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Speaker 2: upset and maybe a little bit of chaos.

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Speaker 7: I'm Texas Tech. I'm really curious about it. It's gonna

604
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 7: be about the pass rushing in all these games. I

605
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 7: don't think, oh, this is going to have what it

606
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Speaker 7: takes to hang with Georgia. It's just they got their

607
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Speaker 7: fun out of the way. They got their exorcism with

608
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Speaker 7: Layne Kiffin against Kalaane, so now they got the win.

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Speaker 7: It's been a good, good run. I think they have

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Speaker 7: a problem with Georgia. I mean The problem with Indiana

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Speaker 7: Alabama is it's still Alabama. It's just hard. I don't

612
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Speaker 7: care if you can analyze it to death or yeah,

613
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Speaker 7: of course Indiana should beat this Alabama team. That isn't

614
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Speaker 7: that great. It's still Indiana versus Alabama.

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Speaker 4: It's just hard.

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Speaker 7: But I do think Indiana pulls that off. So the

617
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 7: real key is here the pass rush. For we all

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Speaker 7: the NFL talent on the Miami defensive front and all

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Speaker 7: the talent on the Texas Tech defensive front, can those

620
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Speaker 7: can that be the neutralizing factor against these Big ten teams?

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Speaker 7: And I honestly don't think anybody watched one Texas Tech

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Speaker 7: game this year. I sure know if the College Football

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Speaker 7: Playoff Committee didn't until the Big Twelve Championships is like,

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Speaker 7: oh wow, that's that seems like a yeah, this team

625
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 7: is really good, you know, it's almost it's it's.

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Speaker 4: Got the talent.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if it has the quarterback situation. Barrymoreton's

628
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Speaker 7: a nice veteran, I don't think he's quite there. And

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Speaker 7: now it's about the Big Ten. I mean, look, Ohio State,

630
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Speaker 7: Indiana and in Oregon. They could pretty much set the

631
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Speaker 7: tone for the rest of college football. By being like,

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Speaker 7: all right, we only got a few teams in, but

633
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Speaker 7: all of them are pretty good, and let's see what

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Speaker 7: they do going forward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for Texas Tech, it just means they need a

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00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: better lobbyist in that room for next year peak, you know.

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Speaker 7: But the higgest part about that is also is that

638
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 7: everyone's be oh, well, this is the best team money

639
00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 7: can buy, like compared to Alabama, like compared to like Oregon,

640
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 7: who is like the forefront of you know, sports marketing,

641
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 7: and they look, it's all legal, it's all above board now.

642
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 7: But oh well, they bought themselves with people so everyone

643
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:09,239
Speaker 7: could do that.

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00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 4: Everyone could have.

645
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 7: Had David Bailey, Romelo Heights, great players of Texas Tech

646
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Speaker 7: got they just did it really well this year, or

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Speaker 7: you go.

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Speaker 2: Back in time and start comparing them to teams from Alabama,

649
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Speaker 2: Georgia and others.

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Speaker 1: Of the best.

651
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Speaker 2: At Pete feed Tech where you find him on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Pete enjoy the holiday run, blessed time with you and

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Speaker 2: your family, and we appreciate.

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Speaker 1: You being part of the show.

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Speaker 7: I'm going guys.

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: He's the best. Joins us each and every week on

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Speaker 1: the hotline.

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Speaker 2: College Footballnews dot Com is the website he's a stinking

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Speaker 2: genius at Arnie Spanner. You see how excited he was

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Speaker 2: to talk to you. Well, she went straight to me.

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Speaker 2: I felt offended. Let's go over to the news desk

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Speaker 2: to a man who is above reproach, a man that

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Speaker 2: we all cower in his presence because he's so mighty.

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Speaker 3: Said Off.

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Speaker 1: You gave him yesterday. Off I did, and yet I

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Speaker 1: still worked.

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Speaker 8: By the way, as you brought up that I'm sitting

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Speaker 8: at a news desk, I'm glad you brought that up.

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Speaker 8: The reaction to Arnie appearing on the show tonight by

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Speaker 8: the guest was Pete, which just went nuts at the

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Speaker 8: greatest thing.

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Speaker 3: Again, how about that, I'm a pretty big deal. Just

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Speaker 3: ask me.

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Speaker 8: That is the definition of news. Nobody has reacted to

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Speaker 8: Ardy that way. In the late Bowl game tonight in Dallas,

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Speaker 8: ut San Antonio is still up thirty one fourteen over

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Speaker 8: Florida International, which has about fifty yards passing fifty yards rushing.

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Speaker 8: UTSA was actually down fourteen to nothing early in this one,

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Speaker 8: including giving up a punt return. TD in Phoenix, Minnesota

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Speaker 8: in overtime beat New Mexico twenty to seventeen. Northwestern beat

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Speaker 8: Central Michigan thirty four to seven in Detroit. The Wildcats

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Speaker 8: led seven nothing late first tap. They have won six

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Speaker 8: straight bowl games. There are eight bowl games on Saturday,

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Speaker 8: including Penn State at Yankee Stadium against Clemson and at

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Speaker 8: Fenway Pack It's Yukon again, Army. It is official. Michigan's

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Speaker 8: new head football coach is Kyle Whitting him from Utah,

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Speaker 8: where he spent the last twenty one years. There are

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Speaker 8: two NFL games on Saturday, Texans at Chargers and then

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Speaker 8: Ravens at Packers. Green Bay quarterback Jordan Love will not

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Speaker 8: play Saturday night due to his concussion, so Malik Willis

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Speaker 8: will start, but he's been limited at practice this week

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Speaker 8: with the shore shoulder. And quarterback for the Ravens Lamar

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Speaker 8: Jackson doubtful for the game with the bruise back, so

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Speaker 8: Tyler Huntley could start.

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Speaker 1: The big game.

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Speaker 8: Sunday on Fox TV Philadelphia at Buffalo for the Eagles,

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Speaker 8: linebacker Nakobe Dean out with a hamstring injury, tackle Lane

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Speaker 8: Johnson still out with a foot injury. Bill's quarterback Josh

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Speaker 8: Allen is due to play despite a foot injury. He

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Speaker 8: practiced fully today. Buffalo kicker Matt Crater is still out

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Speaker 8: with a quad injury. The Patriots say there's still a

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Speaker 8: chance running back Traveon Henderson plays Sunday after a concussion

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Speaker 8: last week, but they'll be missing two injured wide receivers.

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Speaker 8: The Raiders will not play defensive end Max Crosby on

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Speaker 8: Sunday against the Giants due to a knee injury, and

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Speaker 8: tight end Brock Bowers is on ir Steelers pass rusher TJ.

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Speaker 8: Watt will miss another game this weekend after the lung injury.

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Speaker 8: Butt linebacker Nick Herbig does return.

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Speaker 3: In the NBA.

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Speaker 8: Boston won at Indiana, won forty to one twenty two.

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Speaker 8: Jalen Brown thirty points is eight straight thirty point game

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Speaker 8: Chicago over Philadelphia thanks to a ten oh run at

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Speaker 8: the end one oh nine, one o two, despite thirty

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Speaker 8: one points from Joel Embiid at Memphis, tenn assists for

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Speaker 8: John Morant in a win against Milwaukee. Victories from Miami, Charlotte,

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Speaker 8: and Washington, which was five and twenty three. Geez, but

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Speaker 8: shot fifty nine percent from the floor in rep. Toronto

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Speaker 8: one thirty eight to one seventeen. Wow, I've just gone.

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Speaker 8: Final Phoenix wins at New Orleans one fifteen, one oh

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Speaker 8: eight thirty points for Devin Booker halftime Detroit with a

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Speaker 8: record of twenty four and six lead sixty eight sixty

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Speaker 8: seven at Utah and the late game through one quarter

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Speaker 8: at Portland as the Blazers head of the Clippers thirty

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Speaker 8: five to twenty five. College basketball, still on Christmas, break

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Speaker 8: back to.

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Speaker 2: You, appreciate you. That's Steve Disager at the news desk.

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Speaker 2: We got Ian, we got Alex, who got Shay in

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Speaker 2: the back, and of course that's the stinking genius over

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Speaker 2: there already. Span you're out, Mike Carmen, thanks for being

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Speaker 2: with us here tonight as you celebrate the holidays. If

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Speaker 2: you're on the roads, be smart, be safe weather all

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Speaker 2: across this great land. Just let it take a little

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Speaker 2: bit longer. You'll get there and it'll be okay. I

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Speaker 2: had to basically do a you know, the old traffic

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Speaker 2: cone test when you're doing your driving tests. Yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I had to do that today because some idiot must

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Speaker 2: have been flying down the highway and plastic and glass

739
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Speaker 2: was all over the roadway. So let's be smart out

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Speaker 2: there people as we go. Hey, and as you're doing that,

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Speaker 2: also mind your tires. For over forty years Tyrerack's been

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Speaker 2: helping customers find the right tires for how, what and

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Speaker 2: tire act dot Com the way tire buying should be.

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Speaker 2: As we continue, we'll take a stay in the NBA

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Speaker 2: for a minute. Steve gave you some updates from the games.

748
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Speaker 2: I want to talk about what happened last night. As

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00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: we were getting off the air, clips started circulating of

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Speaker 2: a certain coach who has an issue with my usual

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Speaker 2: co host.

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Speaker 1: They got beef. Maybe we can revisit that coming up

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Speaker 1: next here on Fox.

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Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 6: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 6: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 1: Our two of the program.

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Speaker 2: As we roll on Fox Sports Radio on a beautiful

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Speaker 2: Friday night, Mike Harmon alongside Arnie Spander, Jason Smith off

760
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: till the New Year. Teams assembled, alex and Ian and

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Speaker 2: Steve Desager's over at the news desks in the back.

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Speaker 2: We got the road Runners are up forty to twenty

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Speaker 2: in this game. Because you have to make mention of

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Speaker 2: the Serve Pro Serve Pro first responderble right, because they're

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Speaker 2: one of many bulls.

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Speaker 3: You know, people are working, that's today is not a holiday.

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Speaker 3: I just don't understand where you think people are taking

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Speaker 3: the day off except for Jason Smith and are saying

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Speaker 3: I got to sit home and watch some of these

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Speaker 3: Bowl games. I I just don't know where you guys

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Speaker 3: are where your head's out of it?

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Speaker 2: Well, Jet, Look, I'm not saying a bunch of people

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Speaker 2: didn't go back to work.

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Speaker 1: I know plenty of folks did.

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Speaker 2: I know plenty of people that are also sitting on

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Speaker 2: their ass, still hungover from yesterday and watching Bowl games

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Speaker 2: or the end of it. It's a wonderful life. Marathon

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Speaker 2: or Ralphie or whatever else is on. I think Marathon

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Speaker 2: Twilight Zone. Of course, there's a gremlin on the wing

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Speaker 2: of the plane.

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Speaker 3: Your favorite one.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty good one, that's not bad. There's a

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Speaker 1: few of them.

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Speaker 2: It's been a while since I've really gone down that catalog,

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Speaker 2: but so far ahead of its time.

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Speaker 3: I loved it. I like the William Shatner one too,

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Speaker 3: where they were in the they're in the cafe and

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Speaker 3: keep putting a penny into the box where they read

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Speaker 3: your fortune. Whether you can leave the town or not.

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Speaker 3: It was great.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty good because it's me and you and Steve's

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Speaker 2: nodding his head and Ian and Alex are looking at

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Speaker 2: us like, what the helly is? What are so the

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Speaker 2: divide here on Fox Sports Radio at Sticking Genius one,

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Speaker 2: find me over at Swollen Dome. You also have an

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Speaker 2: ELF marathon. I mean, depending on where you want to go.

797
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 2: It's all over the place. Pete referenced born identity kind

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Speaker 2: of things, so you know, pick your poison. You got

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Speaker 2: some NBA games deep into the night. Whatever you're doing,

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Speaker 2: however you're doing, and thanks for being with us here

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: It's not lost on us.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you giving us the greatest gift that you

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Speaker 2: possibly can your time on the iHeartRadio app all our

805
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Speaker 2: affiliates nationwide, thanks to the pds that keep plugging us

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Speaker 2: back into the schedule and all the work that our

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Speaker 2: team does behind the scenes as we get ready for

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Big story coming out of the NFL

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Speaker 2: earlier today, it's the battle for the number one pick

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Speaker 2: overall Arnie, but we had Max Crosby sent home. The

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Speaker 2: report from Jay Glazer was they said Hey, it's it's

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Speaker 2: been a good run. Congratulations on a job done for

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Speaker 2: the year, but it's time for you to take your

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Speaker 2: leave and go home. Here was his scoopage. Raiders told

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Speaker 2: Max Crosby they want to shut him down the last

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Speaker 2: two games. Crosby, he's played with injuries much of the year,

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Speaker 2: v emently disagreed, has left the building. NFL on Fox

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Speaker 2: has learned. This could lead to questions on his future

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Speaker 2: in Vegas, which were already swirling a bit as they

820
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Speaker 2: looked at the new direction, new new players, whether the

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Speaker 2: coaching staff has retained all of that as management kind

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Speaker 2: of shuffles under Davis Brady, et cetera. But when we

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Speaker 2: look at Max Crosby being shut down, his presence, he's

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Speaker 2: one of eleven. And while he may be fantastic, their

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Speaker 2: defense was not to be kind about it, and whether

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Speaker 2: he wanted to play or not. And you talk to

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Speaker 2: most football players, I mean, they're football players. They play

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Speaker 2: through pain, They played through injuries. As soon as we

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Speaker 2: get the guys off the line the first couple of

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Speaker 2: reps of the preseason, they're no longer in mint condition anymore, Arnie,

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Speaker 2: and now it's just a battle of what's your pain

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Speaker 2: tolerance threshold, and whether you're hurt slash injured and all

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Speaker 2: of that diatribe. But for Max Crosby's there's nothing to

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Speaker 2: be gained for the Raiders at this point. You've got

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Speaker 2: a contract or, you've got the trade potential in the offing.

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Speaker 2: The last thing you want to have happen is for

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Speaker 2: him to get hurt in the game against the Giants.

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Speaker 3: Right right. You don't want him to get hurt. You're

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Speaker 3: at the bottom, you're fighting out for the number one pick.

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Speaker 3: We'll find out where they have it. Certainly I would

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Speaker 3: sit him down to find the Raiders I want that

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Speaker 3: number one pick. This is their way of tanking to

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Speaker 3: get that number one pick. And if they don't get

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Speaker 3: the number one pick, they can use Max Cosby to

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Speaker 3: trade on up to get the number one overall pick

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Speaker 3: if they so desire, if that's the quarterback they want.

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Speaker 3: So I certainly understand where the Raiders are coming from.

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Speaker 3: I understand where Max is coming from. Good for him,

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Speaker 3: he's a player, he wants to be out there with

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Speaker 3: his teammates. Unfortunately, it does the Raiders no good to

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Speaker 3: risk that type of stuff or risk his injury. I

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Speaker 3: think he'll end up getting traded anyway in the offseason.

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Speaker 3: To be honest with you, they don't need a contract

854
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Speaker 3: like that, and they certainly have to take care of Bowers.

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Speaker 3: He's certainly going to get the big, big money. They

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Speaker 3: have to get themselves a quarterback. If they don't get

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Speaker 3: one in the draft, maybe they get themselves a veteran quarterback.

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Speaker 3: So I understand where the Raiders are coming from, and

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Speaker 3: I'm buying them on this one.

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Speaker 2: You'd already shut down Bowers for the year. Crosby's in

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Speaker 2: the first of a three year deal, three years, one

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Speaker 2: hundred and six million dollars extension. So you talk about

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Speaker 2: the investment, and we do this all the time, trying

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Speaker 2: to ascribe value to me. It always comes back to you.

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Speaker 2: I need a detector, I need a thrower, and I

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Speaker 2: need an attacker my tap or pat system, depending on

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Speaker 2: how you want to do it. Right, Protector, attacker, thrower.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Those three I need solidified, and then I start building

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Speaker 2: from there. Well, they've got the attacker, the rest of

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Speaker 2: it not so much. Genti's been pretty good in spots.

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Speaker 2: Jenoby Myers more or less had a sign on his

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Speaker 2: back that said trade me for weeks before they finally

874
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: got rid of him to Jacksonville. He goes to Jacksonville,

875
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 2: has a couple of big games, a couple of big

876
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: blocks to free up their run game, and suddenly he

877
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: gets a massive extension. But for the Raiders, you're in

878
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: a division where you're chasing all three teams, even in

879
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: Kansas City. As they go to retool, rebuild, whatever that becomes.

880
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey seems like he's finishing the string. Whether he

881
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: gets his fifty seven yards this next week or not

882
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: remains to be seen. But Patrick Mahomes is on the

883
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: way back from a big rehabilitation process. Needs an offensive

884
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: line wide receiver, but you still have Andy Reid at

885
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: least for now. Everything keeps plugging along. You look at

886
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: what Denver has been able to build as they get

887
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: out from under what Russell Wilson's contract was, Bo Nicks

888
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: and the fourth quarter magic that they have. It would

889
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 2: have been a better game if Courtland Sutton had held

890
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 2: on to that touchdown pass. See I got you, Fantasy owners,

891
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: I got you.

892
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 3: R J.

893
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: Harvey looks like a pretty good player. And then we

894
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: talk about the Chargers and the depth they have there

895
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: and Eventually the offensive line will either be reconstituted and

896
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 2: regenerated or they'll go find new guys. Right, so you're

897
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 2: chasing in division, let alone the rest of the AFC.

898
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 3: No, you're right, and it's going to be a tough

899
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: climb up except for now the Kansas City. You saw

900
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 3: what happened to Mahomes. How much long is Andy Reid

901
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: going to be around? My question is this forget about

902
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 3: how long Andy Reid's going to be around. What's gonna

903
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 3: happen to Pete Carroll? Do you make that move? I

904
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: don't need p Carroll rebuilding my team. I think it's

905
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: time to just move on without him. Yeah, I'm looking

906
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 3: at age here. He's certainly too old. Time has passed

907
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 3: him by. Who's the guy that could turn around the

908
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: Raiders and lead him out of where they are right

909
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 3: now with a two and thirteen record, maybe finishing at

910
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 3: two and fifteen. Who's the guy that you know says

911
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 3: I'll get myself as a quarterback and we'll turn this

912
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,479
Speaker 3: thing around. Tom Brady's gonna have to make the move.

913
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: Didn't do it right with the Chip Kelly higher. But

914
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 3: something's got to give, and I don't know where to

915
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: begin this thing.

916
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still want to that onion peel back a

917
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: little bit. If I can get an in season hard

918
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: knocks with whatever footage they can call from the Raiders facilities,

919
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: I think that would be fun. The Chip Kelly stuff

920
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: and Pete Carroll and going on current odds, Clint Kubiak

921
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: is the leader, Todd Monkin second, Joe Brady of the Bills, Third,

922
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury, Stenovich vance, Joseph Brian Flores gone down the line.

923
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy at eighteen to one. Wow, big long shot

924
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: on the board was Dan Lanning at thirty three to one.

925
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: What are the odds of them keeping Pete Carroll and

926
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 3: just saying we'll go with him one more year?

927
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: Well, and that's the thing, right.

928
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 2: You have to decide, how does the long road begin

929
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: with just the first step of changing out the coach

930
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 2: or do you need to rebuild your infrastructure before you

931
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: start pushing ahead?

932
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 3: Any odds on Tom Brady being the coach? Any odds

933
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: on Tom Brady Brady be in the quarterback? You tell me.

934
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 2: He certainly wouldn't have taken as many sacks as Gino did.

935
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: He certainly wouldn't have turned the ball over as many

936
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: times as Gino did.

937
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: Look.

938
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: We talked about this a lot yesterday, the dearth of

939
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: quality quarterbacks, particularly as you go down to the second

940
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: and third tiers and the second and third strings to

941
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: where Philip Rivers looks really good compared to a lot

942
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: of other guys that have taken snaps. And we're into

943
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: the mid fifties in terms of quarterbacks who've taken a

944
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: start this season. But yeah, the Pete Carroll will he

945
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: stay or will he go? Is really one of the

946
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: intes interesting things here over these next couple of weeks

947
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: as the Tom Brady Spy Tech again unfortunate surname or

948
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: a really good one depending on your point of view. Uh,

949
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: the GM of the Raiders that they installed, you know,

950
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: how quickly do they think they can rebuild this or

951
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: do you just need to keep someone I don't want

952
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 2: to say status quote because your team's.

953
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 3: Terrible, right, you can't keep forget about.

954
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 2: But it's more just the idea of is there something

955
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 2: from what Pete Carroll's done this year that you think

956
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: is a net positive long term or has it just

957
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: been an abject failure?

958
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 3: And who calls the shots too? Is it going to

959
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 3: be Davis. Is tom Brady gonna go into Davis's office

960
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 3: and say, hey, this is what we got to do,

961
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 3: so this is the way we're riding the ship.

962
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would guess shots here, Yeah, I would guess

963
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 2: that Davis and the other owners of the Raiders, there's

964
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: all deference to Tom Brady and whatever he says and

965
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: spy tech right, so to.

966
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 3: Him for sure.

967
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: No, but in the end you've entrusted them. I mean,

968
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: you bring in Tom Brady as part of your group

969
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: and give him some clout and personnel decision making sitting

970
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: in the booth. Remember when that was such a big deal. Yeah,

971
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 2: got that advantage play out. Yeah, we're harry that we're

972
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: doing so much of that.

973
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 3: Raiders are gonna go seventeen to zero because of that.

974
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: You know the dumbest thing I ever heard. Yes, tom

975
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 2: Brady's in the meetings. It's gonna translate what's gonna translate

976
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 2: to someone's got a one funny one liner about the

977
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: guy's nighttime proclivities. I mean, yeah, you still need players,

978
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: which they clearly did not have. He could have had

979
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 2: all the answers to the test with this roster. It

980
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 2: was still gonna be terrible.

981
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 3: And Tom Brady, you know, he's obviously very competitive. He

982
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 3: doesn't want his legacy to look like this. He's got

983
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: to say something because right now people are pointing the

984
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: finger of them over the Chip Kelly.

985
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: Well, because that's the other part of it.

986
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: Right, He's watched the other goats from pick A Sport

987
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: go down to Michael Jordan ownership highway right right, made

988
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 2: a lot of money, but when he tried to press

989
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: on the scale to bring in guys he liked. They

990
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: might have all been great college players, they might have

991
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 2: been the you know, the right stuff between the ears,

992
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: but they couldn't play right one after another. So now

993
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 2: it just becomes that question for the Raiders as you

994
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 2: go to rebuild this thing, do you think you need?

995
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 2: How special is Pete Carroll without John Schneider eight seven

996
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 2: to seven nine as we go through right, because how

997
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: much blame credit whatever term you want to use, you know,

998
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: how much credit does he get when you go back

999
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: to the way those teams were structured because John Schneider

1000
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: in a second act.

1001
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: It took a couple of years.

1002
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: But now that he's fully picking the groceries and making

1003
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: the decisions back and seeing look at where they are again,

1004
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: a lot of the Allen on both sides in the

1005
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: ball and rising.

1006
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 3: I think I got to let the season play out.

1007
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: See if I have the number one or number two pick.

1008
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 3: If I have the number two pick, and I slowly

1009
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 3: want the court back from Indiana, I made trad Max

1010
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: cause me to move on up. I've got to say

1011
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: goodbye to Pete Carroll. It's time for him to go.

1012
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna rebuild with somebody else, somebody who's a lot younger,

1013
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 3: maybe like a Dan Campbell type or something like that,

1014
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 3: and just started from the very beginning and work it

1015
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 3: up and you see what Tom's got to say, and

1016
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 3: see which direction he wants to go on. But I've

1017
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 3: got to make a movie. Like you said, you know,

1018
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 3: it's insanity to think that things are gonna change if

1019
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,479
Speaker 3: I bring Pete Carroll back, it's's not gonna happen.

1020
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 2: Well, it'll be fun to go through the tape and

1021
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: what it's showing us right as opposed to look, he

1022
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 2: won the Heisman Trophy. He's right now, he's on top

1023
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: of the world in Mendoza and what he's been able

1024
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: to do. They're undefeated going into the playoffs. It's all

1025
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 2: great against the better teams. Wasn't transcending, right they got

1026
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: W's take nothing away from it, but it becomes one

1027
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: of those all right into tape?

1028
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 1: What am I seeing?

1029
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 4: Right?

1030
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 2: Is he that guy at the next level? Or is

1031
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: he just the best of what has become a thinner

1032
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: crop of quarterbacks?

1033
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: I like him, I like his size, I like look,

1034
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 3: is arch Manning the guy that you'd want to take?

1035
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 3: I mean, we're gonna question everybody that comes out.

1036
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: We always do, and we should, right, the whole point

1037
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: of being behind these microphones and trying to have a

1038
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: conversation the eye test and where it goes to the

1039
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 2: next level, right, because thirty three and six nearly three

1040
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: thousand yards Mendoz has been fantastic. But once upon a

1041
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 2: time when we look at what this quarterback class was, right,

1042
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: everybody was like, hey, twenty six will be great. And

1043
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, one by one, nuss Meyer

1044
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: got benched. He just had a b arch Manning ended

1045
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: up having an okay season. He's gonna go and and

1046
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 2: play in the Sitchers Bowl this coming week against Michigan.

1047
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 2: But all they want the players that were expected, all

1048
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: the Heisman favorites. All the guys that we were looking

1049
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: as the all right, they'll come out and they'll be

1050
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,959
Speaker 2: top five picks. And we know the way works. There's

1051
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 2: only maybe one or two that'll grade out as first

1052
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 2: round picks. But guess what, you need a quarterback? Five

1053
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 2: guys I get drafted in the first round.

1054
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: Especially if you're a Raiders, you need the quarterback.

1055
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: But you definitely need that, right, So do you overreach?

1056
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: Is it an overreach? Is it?

1057
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: You know?

1058
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 2: And who's the person to bring them along? Because as

1059
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 2: we've seen, that's instrumental. Right, Caleb Williams a year ago

1060
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 2: and the bad decision making sack wise didn't turn the

1061
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 2: ball over a ton that was great, but also didn't

1062
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 2: push the ball down the field nearly at all.

1063
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 3: If the Giants had the number one pick, would they

1064
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 3: dare give say we're just gonna take Mendoz and we'll

1065
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 3: just pass on Jackson Dart and we'll trade him or

1066
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 3: something like that.

1067
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 2: Well, that's topic we can bring up. Well, we visit

1068
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: that one next hour. We'll put a pin into that.

1069
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: Maybe we could ask our next guest as we traverse

1070
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,399
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1071
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Speaker 3: on now that's you.

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Speaker 1: I actually sent you the recording one.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't get something a little more ferocious and mean. I know,

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Speaker 2: Willie looks all smiling and all that's about the Tischer's

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Speaker 2: just got shakes his head and says, beat it all. Right,

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Speaker 2: So that's what we'll do. Let's go out to the hotline. Next,

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Speaker 2: our guy, Jason Gole, is gonna join us. It's the

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Speaker 2: Jason Smith Show with Me Mike Harmon. Already span you're

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Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 6: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 1: Pauley Foods Go here with Tony Foodsco. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: But instead of us telling you how great we are,

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Speaker 3: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Were interrupting our promo? Yeah, he wasn't talking about you.

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Speaker 6: You took those clips totally of context.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well after this promo, I'm gonna take you

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Speaker 5: out and beat you.

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Speaker 1: Let me put this into context. Shut up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, anyway, just listen to the Paully and Tony Fosco

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Speaker 1: Apple podcasts, but you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Yee hey, Welcome back in it's Fox Sports Radio Jason

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Speaker 2: Smith Show with Me, Mike Harman, No Jason Tonight in

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Speaker 2: his stead our guy Arnie Spanier, the stinkin Genius, and

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Speaker 2: basketball bracket challenge from each March. We decided to do

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Speaker 2: a bracket challenge for the college football Playoff's right now,

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Speaker 2: they're eight teams left standing, so it's Bracket Challenge time.

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Speaker 2: Compete against all our Fox Sports Radio hosts, including the

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Speaker 1: Arnie.

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Speaker 2: Now it's time to take a trip, because you never

1138
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: know where this is gonna go. It's kind of like

1139
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: a ride along with you on Fox Sports Radio. I

1140
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 2: got to the hotline of Buddy thirty third Team. Go

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Speaker 2: to Amazon buy one of his many beautiful books. Beautiful Books,

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Speaker 2: Our Guy, Jason Cole had Jason Cole sixty two.

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Buddy, How are you wow?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

1145
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 4: There we go. We're so ready for this.

1146
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: There you go.

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00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: Week seventeen of your National Football League, Buddy. Three games

1148
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Speaker 2: in the books, all barn Burners.

1149
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 4: There's a Christmas Day? Was something, wasn't it? For the.

1150
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: Snoop dog was pretty good?

1151
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1152
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 4: Snoop Dogg was great. When you say that the halftime

1153
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 4: show was was was the major event that tells you

1154
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 4: about the games?

1155
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 2: Snoop Dogg and Duck Hodges because he was riding in

1156
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 2: Santa Sleigh alongside his fiance Laney Wilson.

1157
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Speaker 4: It was beautiful time.

1158
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful time.

1159
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 4: I was and tears.

1160
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: So did you try?

1161
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 4: How are you going to feel Sunday night? I want

1162
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 4: to know how you're going to be Sunday. Are you

1163
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 4: going to be so nervous that you can't handle it?

1164
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 4: Is that what it's going to be?

1165
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1166
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to watch Saturday Night when Malik Willis takes

1167
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 2: on Snoop Huntley and that'll decide how much I'm really

1168
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: excitable or nervous on Sunday night.

1169
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 4: You still got to win that game. You still got

1170
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 4: to like improve it to the Bears no matter what.

1171
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 2: Well, I get that, But in terms of securing the

1172
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 2: first item on the checklist of winning the division, all

1173
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 2: you need is Snoop Hunley and Derrick Henry to outplay

1174
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 2: Malik Willison whoever shows up.

1175
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Speaker 1: For the Packers.

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00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true, but I'm I'm kind of thinking, I'm

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Speaker 4: kind of thinking the Packers take that game. Just kind

1178
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 4: of thinking.

1179
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 2: But you're just trying to say that because you want

1180
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 2: to get me all agitated.

1181
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 4: I want I want drama. I want drama on Sunday.

1182
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 4: It's no fun that there's no drama. And the other

1183
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 4: thing is I want that three way tie in the West.

1184
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 4: I want somehow the forty nine ers to to win

1185
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 4: that division and create a three way tie at the

1186
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 4: top because and somehow win that division because they're not

1187
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 4: the strongest team there, but it would be it would

1188
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 4: be sort of fun to watch.

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Speaker 3: By the way, if I don't jump in, Mike's not

1190
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 3: gonna let me talk Jason, But is it we can

1191
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 3: have all the teams already in the playoffs. By the

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00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 3: games on Sunday, we'll have all the spots taken. This

1193
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 3: is the worst uh uh you know run for the

1194
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 3: playoffs I've ever seen. It's horrible. There's no good race

1195
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 3: is going on.

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Speaker 4: Well that's an uplifting question, Arnie. There, that's the way

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00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 4: to keep you going.

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Speaker 1: You just talking about drama and you just.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like I was really trying to set it up.

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Speaker 4: I was. I was just like, hey, we could have

1201
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 4: some fun with this. This could be great, Arnie, but

1202
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 4: it can all be boring.

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00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 3: It could all be wrapped up.

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00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 4: Way way to go, Arnie? Where you go?

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00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 2: He couldn't you with the TUA question that he had, Yeah,

1206
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: there you go?

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00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 4: Oh my god, there we go. All right, Arnie, You're

1208
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 4: you're normally a little bit more excited about this stuff

1209
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 4: than that. So I'm thrown a little bit here. I'm

1210
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 4: really thrown by your attitude here right now.

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Speaker 3: Because I'm a Dolphins fan. I've had nothing to root

1212
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 3: for for a long long time, so it's been.

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00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, Arnie, that's your fault. You choose you

1214
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 4: want to be a fan. That's okay, that's that's your life.

1215
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 4: You ruined it. I'm sorry, Well, what do you want

1216
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 4: me to tell you?

1217
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 3: You're born into it, to tell me what you think

1218
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 3: about two of them? Because I mean, are they gonna

1219
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 3: move him for a little more Jackson? Are they gonna

1220
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 3: move him for Murray? Are they just gonna move him

1221
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 3: and go in a different direction? What are they going

1222
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 3: to do with him?

1223
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 4: Who wants him? Oh?

1224
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 3: I think a lot of teams want.

1225
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Speaker 4: Him, Yeah, but they're not can trade for him. I mean,

1226
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 4: that's not happening. I mean, like it's gonna let him

1227
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 4: get and because they're not only be a part of

1228
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 4: that contract.

1229
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 3: Right, that's true.

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00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 4: And so so like you know, the people who think

1231
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 4: he has values somehow, that's not that's just not the case.

1232
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 4: Not at that contract. He has valued a smaller contract,

1233
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 4: a prove it deal with somebody else, which is fine.

1234
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 4: That's you know, go do that. I think that you know,

1235
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 4: Tua still has the ability to be a league average

1236
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 4: quarterback for somebody and if everything comes together, you can

1237
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 4: make the playoffs. Tua. That's that's you know, like that's

1238
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 4: not you know, that's not really a problem. The problem

1239
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 4: for Tua is he's not going to make enough plays

1240
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 4: in the playoff situation that you can actually win it.

1241
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 4: And the other thing is he's going to be injured

1242
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 4: a lot, so we know the story of what Tua is,

1243
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 4: what the Dolphins do to replace Tua. I mean, do

1244
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 4: you really think Baltimore's moving off from wal Mark Jackson? Yes?

1245
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 3: I do, Yes, I do. I don't think he'll be

1246
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 3: a member of the Ravens, no matter if it's Miami

1247
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: or wherever he goes. I don't think he's going to

1248
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 3: be on that team next year.

1249
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 4: I have no idea where you get that idea.

1250
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 3: I think think there's a lot of bad blood right now.

1251
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 3: I don't. I think there's a lot of bad blood,

1252
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 3: not only with Lamar, with the team. I think there's

1253
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 3: bad blood that's being leaked out about him getting practice changed.

1254
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 3: I think the fans now are starting to turn on

1255
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 3: him and he's starting to feel it. I totally think

1256
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 3: it's a bad situation right now out there.

1257
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Steve Bashatti is the smart enough man

1258
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 4: to go, yeah, we need the quarterback, and we're going

1259
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 4: to keep that guy and we'll make him happy somehow,

1260
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 4: some way. Steve Bashatti is a very very smart man,

1261
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 4: and so your dream scenario here, which is you get

1262
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 4: rid of Tua, which is your first step, and then

1263
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 4: you get Lamar Jackson to come home. That ain't happen

1264
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 4: in power. It's just not happening. And I hate to

1265
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 4: rain on your parade. But after you talk to me

1266
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,959
Speaker 4: about there's no drama here, this is what you get.

1267
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: Well, he tried to create.

1268
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 2: Some drama, right saying well, Lamar will be gone. What

1269
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 2: about John Harbaugh? Seems like all the bad blood about

1270
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: someone ought to be fired and shifting from Mike Tomlin

1271
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 2: over to Baltimore.

1272
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 4: Well, because they had lost that game to Pittsburgh and

1273
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 4: Lamar Lamar's Lamar has had a rough year, no question

1274
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 4: about it. But this is a team that was on

1275
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 4: the edge of the Super Bowl the last couple of years. Again,

1276
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 4: I come back to everybody can say all they want

1277
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 4: to say, but nobody ever talks directly to Steve Bashadi.

1278
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 4: And I met Steve Bushatti a bunch of times, and

1279
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 4: that's a really clever dude. Okay, He's really good at

1280
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 4: reading people and understanding what they do. He's one of

1281
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 4: the smartest owners in the league. And he's he's stood

1282
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 4: pat with John Harbaugh and he's created a culture there

1283
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 4: that supersedes short term tantrums, and that's everything that he's

1284
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 4: tried to do, all right, And so he'll come in

1285
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 4: and he's smart enough and rich enough, and powerful enough

1286
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 4: and convincing enough if you listen to him and you've

1287
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 4: ever sat with him, and he can get people settled down,

1288
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,959
Speaker 4: and he can get people to say to come back

1289
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 4: to the table, and he can look at Lamar and say, Lamar,

1290
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 4: you're going to go to another team that doesn't know

1291
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 4: how to build around you. We have built an entire

1292
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 4: system completely for you, dedicated everything, and John Harbaugh has

1293
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 4: been the guy. You guys are letting a little bit

1294
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 4: of short term pressure and you know, a bit of

1295
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 4: short term failure, you know, which is said by the

1296
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 4: fact that you've been hurt this year, which is a legitimate.

1297
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 4: Nobody's blaming you for being hurt, but you know you've

1298
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 4: let that get to potentially ruining it, ruining a good thing.

1299
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 4: Let's not do that. Now you can go back and

1300
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 4: you can micromanage it, Dren Harbaugh and say he didn't

1301
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 4: even handle this game, or he didn't do this. Hey,

1302
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 4: look there's a bunch some mistakes to go around with

1303
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 4: Baltimore for the last few years. A lot of them

1304
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:09,479
Speaker 4: fall in Lamar's lap, a lot fall in Harbaugh's lap,

1305
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 4: A bunch of them fall into Mark Andrews's lap, right, Yeah,

1306
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 4: the offensive Yeah, the offensive coordinator gets his share for

1307
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 4: some bad play calling. You know, Zay Flowers got you know,

1308
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 4: got fumble in there. Okay. I mean there's a lot

1309
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 4: to go around and how they did not end up

1310
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 4: winning a Super Bowl here in the last couple of years.

1311
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 4: But don't throw the whole way just because you had

1312
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 4: one rough year. I mean, that'd be like the Kansas

1313
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 4: City Chiefs saying we're going to tear every you know,

1314
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 4: we're trading you know, Patrick Mahomes after this.

1315
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, Arnie, Arnie posited that last hour,

1316
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: what are you doing?

1317
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 4: Had already had Mahomes going to Miami?

1318
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 3: No, I did.

1319
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: He's got everybody, He's got pages would if you don't

1320
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 2: think Jackson's gone, what about somebody like Kyler Murray?

1321
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I've got to assume that he's gone.

1322
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 4: For the why why we always like, why are we

1323
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 4: like somehow equivocating Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray? Like, you know,

1324
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 4: one of these things is not like the other. One

1325
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 4: of them doesn't belong and that's Kyler Murray. Okay, all right,

1326
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 4: Tyler Murray is not Lamar Jackson. Kyler Murray is a

1327
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 4: guy who hasn't put the work in, who hasn't done

1328
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 4: what he needed to do, got hurt as well, all right,

1329
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 4: but never has accomplished anything close to what Lamar Jackson

1330
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 4: has accomplished in this league. It's had some moments that

1331
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 4: has done some interesting things, but you know, he's never

1332
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 4: been on that kind of pedestal. You know, like Kyler

1333
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 4: Murray is not as good as Tua, So whoa, he's not.

1334
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 4: He's just not, I mean, and and neither one of

1335
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 4: them is good enough to win a championship for you. Now,

1336
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 4: somebody's gonna take a chance on because there's not enough

1337
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 4: quarterbacks to go around, right But Arizone is done with it, okay,

1338
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 4: so you know that. But like Arnie in your world,

1339
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 4: you're like saying that the Dolphins are going to trade

1340
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 4: like a second or third round pick to get Andy

1341
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 4: Reid and Patrick Mahomes And that's just not happening. Okay.

1342
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: He just wants something new, is all j Cole.

1343
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 4: That's all he want. Look, if I was a Dolphins fan,

1344
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 4: and look, I covered that team for a long time,

1345
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 4: you know, nineteen ninety two to two thousand and six.

1346
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 4: They got a lot of friends associated with that that team. Okay,

1347
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 4: even though it's been twenty years since I've been in

1348
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 4: South Florida, thank God. But you know, like you know,

1349
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 4: as much as you know that I I understand, you know,

1350
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 4: I understand. I understand where you're coming from. Like it's

1351
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 4: been bad for a long time in Miami. It's you know,

1352
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 4: and it's it's sometimes at the edge of hopeless. Okay,

1353
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 4: But there's not a quick fix that's coming. Like they

1354
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 4: have to they have to do a lot of things,

1355
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 4: starting with higher GM make a decision on what they're

1356
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 4: going to do here with the head coach, you know,

1357
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 4: is there going to be another coach who comes out

1358
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 4: of the woodwork that the owner is going to like better?

1359
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 4: Is the owner ever going to come up with a

1360
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 4: sort of consistent philosophy. Is the GM that they hire

1361
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 4: going to match up with keeping McDaniel's or you know

1362
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 4: McDaniel or is he going to be a guy who

1363
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 4: butts heads with him? Like there's a there's a lot

1364
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 4: in motion there Okay, Now, I would have thought he

1365
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 4: would have gotten rid of McDaniel, but he hasn't, right,

1366
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 4: and I don't think he has a lot. I mean,

1367
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 4: the problem is, as long as he has been the owner,

1368
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 4: he has not really learned a lot about how football

1369
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 4: works because he spends most of the time concentrating on

1370
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 4: his real estate business. And frankly, I don't blame him.

1371
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 4: You know, it's a lot of money tied up in

1372
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 4: that real estate business. Okay, but but you know, like

1373
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 4: he just this is he is an example of an

1374
01:05:55,200 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 4: owner who doesn't really understand how football operates. And he

1375
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 4: usually is the owner who listens to the guy who

1376
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 4: sits next to him bearing games and who I don't

1377
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 4: know who that is right now, I don't know who

1378
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 4: consistently has his ear. But that's the most powerful person

1379
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 4: in that organization, which tells you a lot about how

1380
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 4: impulsive that organization is.

1381
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to photoshop a picture of Arnie Span You're

1382
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: sitting next to him for the.

1383
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 4: Next at Jason Played Home Trade from my Home.

1384
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 2: At Jason Cole sixty two, where you find him the

1385
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 2: thirty third team long time NFL scribe, Hall of Fame

1386
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: voter and of course, the author of many books you

1387
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 2: can purchase to add to your collection at Amazon dot com.

1388
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 2: J Cole, friend of the family. I appreciate you more

1389
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 2: than you know. Appreciate you cutting jumping on with us today.

1390
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 4: All right, guys, Yeah, we're bringing you nights back to

1391
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 4: the Dolphins. Cirgo there you go.

1392
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: Be good, buddy.

1393
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 2: Yah at Jason Cole putting Arnie in his place. He's

1394
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 2: training for everybody. You can have nine for a competition. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

1395
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 2: All right, let's go over to the news desk and

1396
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 2: Steve de Seger. He's gonna put some sanity back into this. Steve,

1397
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 2: you got anybody you want as a Dolphins quarterback?

1398
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, all of.

1399
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 2: Them, Bob Greasy, Yeah, everybody's bulto moral, all of them.

1400
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 8: Sunday, the big game on Fox TV is Philadelphia at Buffalo.

1401
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 8: You know there are only two late games on the schedule.

1402
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 8: It's that and the Raiders and the Giants, who each

1403
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 8: lost nine.

1404
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: In a row, both with high stakes. So I look

1405
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: this up.

1406
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 8: Most people are not getting a late doubleheader from the

1407
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 8: other network. So almost literally the whole country is getting

1408
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 8: the Philadelphia Buffalo game on Fox TV. The only exceptions are.

1409
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 8: Part of Nevada is getting the Raiders. Part of the

1410
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 8: Greater New York Connecticut area is getting Giants Raiders.

1411
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 3: And me, that's my area. What are they doing to me?

1412
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: To me, that's right? I won? Okay, so one person

1413
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: in the Greater New York. Yeah.

1414
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 8: And also Indianapolis area is getting Giants Raiders because it's

1415
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 8: for the number one pick and the Heisman winner from

1416
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 8: Indiana might be taken in that.

1417
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: After that game, Michigan was great.

1418
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 3: It was crazy. I get two CBS games when there's

1419
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 3: a lot of games in the afternoon because we have

1420
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 3: two CBS channels, one for New York and one for Connecticut.

1421
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 8: Oh that is great because you know when we had

1422
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 8: the old aeriol and picking stations out of the air

1423
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 8: as the little kid, you could get like the Santa

1424
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 8: Barbar station.

1425
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: Or the LA or the Palm Springs or this. It

1426
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 1: was all completely different.

1427
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 4: Earlio.

1428
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: It's exactly.

1429
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 8: By the way, there is that Saturday night Ravens at Packers.

1430
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 8: Green Bay quarterback Jordan Love will not play due to

1431
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 8: his concussion and Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson doubtful with the

1432
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 8: bruce back. Michigan's new football coach is Kyle Whittingham from Utah,

1433
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 8: and we've got the late bowl game going on with

1434
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 8: about eight minutes to go in Dallas, ut San Antonio

1435
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 8: forty seven into twenty over Florida International, which apparently we'll

1436
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 8: finish seven and six this year, Minnesota was only seven

1437
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 8: and five. We got an overtime win, and it's bowl

1438
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 8: game in Phoenix against New Mexico twenty to seventeen. Northwestern

1439
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 8: finishes seven and six after pounding Central Michigan in Detroit

1440
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 8: thirty four to seven. Eight more bowl games on Saturday,

1441
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 8: including for those who want to sit outdoors in sit

1442
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 8: Yankee Stadium in Fenway Park.

1443
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: Okay, yay to the NBA.

1444
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 8: We've got two late games seven minutes to go, Utah

1445
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,839
Speaker 8: holding on against Detroit one twenty to one, seventeen, Lowry

1446
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 8: Market and thirty points.

1447
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: He's from what school did he go to?

1448
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 2: Come on.

1449
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 8: At Portland. It's mid third quarter. Blazers lead the Clippers

1450
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 8: seventy two sixty two. If the Clippers lose this, they will.

1451
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: Be eight and twenty two this year. Eat the Lakers.

1452
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 8: Austin Reeves of the Lakers out at least one month

1453
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 8: with a calf injury. You were talking about the lack

1454
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 8: of defense there, which is, you know, painfully. It reminds

1455
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 8: me actually seeing Lakers and Cowboys play the same day yesterday.

1456
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 8: They remind me of each other because the Cowboys offense

1457
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 8: is quite good, thank you. They have elite wide receivers

1458
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 8: that can score twenty eight thirty points a game and

1459
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 8: give up thirty points a game, so you can't take

1460
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 8: them seriously. Anthony Davis and the manst to miss a

1461
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 8: few games with a string growing college basketball still on Christmas,

1462
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 8: break hl off tonight back to you.

1463
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 2: That's our guy, Steve disagre at the newsdask Gar executive

1464
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 2: producer Ian Roddy at Ian Roddy underscore part of our

1465
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 2: I Watch Flex podcast Fantasy Week seventeen preview up for you.

1466
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 2: Alex Tyshert. He's got myriad things going on there. I'll

1467
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 2: figure out his handles later on. For the moment, it's

1468
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 2: just unless he wants to tell me.

1469
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: Now, no socials. He's quit social at least for another week.

1470
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: It's been like a year. Is it really good? Thing you?

1471
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 4: Steve?

1472
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: I have zero social media for you.

1473
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1474
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm just a shameless self promoter because I want people

1475
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 2: to tell me, I'm smart and pretty.

1476
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 4: Guy.

1477
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 2: The bridge happens, except right there, cut and print that

1478
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: one for him, and you find Arnie at Stink and

1479
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 2: Genius One. People tell him he's smart all the time. Yes,

1480
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 2: unless they don't. As we continue here Fox Sports Radio,

1481
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 2: Arnie's got a story he wanted to tell us about

1482
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 2: playing with a legend.

1483
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. You're a master of tall tales. Gosh.

1484
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 2: We'll see if he's doing some fictional work here. As

1485
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 2: we continue here on Fox Sports Radio,