1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Thank you vantage on the day when you get opportunity 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: game they can play. He don't touchdown Kansas City, the 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Chiefs all right in the thick of a baby. Hi everybody, 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: and welcome to this training camp edition of Defending the Kingdom. 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: Mitch alters with you voice to the Chiefs, along with 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: the man we call the shop, the Barbershop, the surpiber Man, 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: and senior team reporter Matt Stad himself Matt McMullan. Okay, 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: there's nothing better than doing a Defending the Kingdom podcast 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: from training camp the Nats Sound of the Moors. We 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: got the win going on. It has been a great 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: start to this camp in Saint Joe. And I'm gonna 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: ask you two guys, if you're seeing and hearing what 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm seeing and hearing, and that is a vibe around 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: this team. This is a team that is hyper focused 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: and in many ways rebooting well. My thought here, Mitch is, 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, this team has accomplished so 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: much over the last several years, four straight AFC Title 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: Game appearances, they won two of them, and of course 19 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl. So this team is a comp 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: a lot and you wonder when a team has accomplished 21 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: all of this, What did they have to keep motivating them? Well, 22 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: I think there's some disrespect out there from the national 23 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: perception of who the best teams in the NFL are 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: this season. And while for the most part they block 25 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: out all the outside noise, it's hard not to hear 26 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: that sometimes. And I think throughout OTAs in mini camp 27 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: and now to begin this training camp, we've seen a 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: team that's excited for this upcoming season and they're motivated 29 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: to go out there and prove that this is the 30 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: best team in football. It's fun to see the vibe, re, energy, azz, 31 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: more energy, a youth movement, however you want to call it. 32 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: Brett Veach has pressed the hard reset. He's brought in 33 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: some energy, some excitement, some guys and go sadline and 34 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: Sadeline on the defense side of the ball, and a 35 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: bunch of playmakers to help Pat Mahomes continue to maticulate 36 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: that ball down the field with mvs and also juju. 37 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see all three of these phases 38 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: come together. But I'm really excited to see the hard work, 39 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: the blood, sweat and tears, all the bricks be put 40 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: into place as we build that Kingdom build that Ford 41 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: up for the upcoming twenty twenty two season. Travis Kelsey 42 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: had his breast spring and summer in his ten years 43 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: in this league. I ask him, I go, dude, are 44 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: you trying to make the team, because it looks like 45 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: because he was given all this extra effort. He goes, 46 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: I'm re energized. I've rediscovered my love for football, and 47 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: he goes, I'm ticked off. I'm kind of ticked off 48 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: like everybody thinks the Chiefs are gonna be two and fifteen. 49 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: A reminder. Our podcast Defending the Kingdom from here at 50 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: training camp in Saint Joe, brought to you by NFL 51 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: Sunday Ticket dot TV. Football fans. 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We have 60 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: seen people including a family that comes to camp every year. 61 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: They're a missionary family from South America. Now you have 62 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: a chance to follow the Chiefs every week with this 63 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: NFL Sunday tiggot dot TV. Okay, quickly around the world, 64 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: let's go. We're now the epicenter of the Chiefs Kingdom 65 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: moves for three weeks to ride here at this spot 66 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: at Missouri Western State University in Saint Joe. But that 67 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: means the world revolves around here. What do we have 68 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: around the world? So thirteen names in places as always 69 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: in honor of thirteen seconds. So first we have Todd 70 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: and Black Diamond, Washington. He says he's infiltreating Seahawks territory 71 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs flag. Love that. We've got Ronda and Williamsburg, Virginia. 72 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: You like that one, Huh? Yeah? Her and her husband, well, 73 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: they're originally from Missouri but never made it to a 74 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: game ever, but now they're going to the Bills game 75 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: this year here in Kansas City and they can't wait. Yep. 76 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: We've got Dwayne and his dad, Robin. They're in Salt 77 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: Lake City, but they're originally from Rock Springs, Wyoming. His 78 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: dad does the whole reason he's a fan. Wanted to 79 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: give him a shout out here in DTK. Here today, 80 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: we've got Jeremy and Honolulu, Renee in Union City, New Jersey, 81 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: Michael and Tampa. He predicts that Raymond James Stadium is 82 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 1: going to be flooded with red and gold in week four. 83 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: Love that. We're gonna board that ship. Ye ship, Yeah, 84 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: I love it. We've got a listener who grew up 85 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: in North Kansas City and went to William Jewel, but 86 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: this is a new one. He now lives in North Pole, Alaska. Yes, 87 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: I know, still need Antarctica, but north Pole, Alaska is 88 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Describably our furthest north location right, there's 89 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: nothing of a point barrow. That's the north of North Pole. 90 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: Way to go. Got him, It's awesome. We've got Brad Simcox. 91 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: He's one of those arrowhead abroad. He's been here before 92 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: I met Brad um. He wants to to send him 93 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: a defending the Kingdom shirt in the United Kingdom. So 94 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: we're still working on that. We're working on that idea 95 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: is in motion. It's going to happen. And Rique is 96 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: listening in Bloomington Minnesota, but he's originally from Mexico City. 97 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: Pretty cool. Wesley is from Alatha, but they're claiming Briarwood 98 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: as b Dub Kingdom. That's awesome. Matt is from southern California. 99 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: He's a third generation Chiefs fan. His dad and his 100 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: grandparents lived in Kansas City. He doesn't, but he's continuing 101 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: the Chiefs legacy. Love's pretty cool. I love all those stories, 102 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: those generational transfers. Great, it's the best. We've got Skyler 103 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: in South Korea, and then Terry and Bangkok. And lastly, 104 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: I met a fan twenty minutes ago who asked if 105 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: I could wish Tracy Gage a happy birthday in August first. 106 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: So happy birthday to you, Tracy? And where does Tracy Gage? 107 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: Lou didn't get that information, but it's a birthday in 108 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: August first. It could be anywhere in the world we 109 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: know there's a defending of the kingdom. Maybe North Poul, Alaska. Well, 110 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: let's so many times through this spring and summer. This 111 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: goes back to our Vibe discussion to open the podcast. 112 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: I have been in private end public conversations saying, well 113 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: if the Chiefs, if the defense, if well, if the 114 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: defense if the defense. This starts a series of defending 115 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: of the kingdoms. We're gonna call him if the defense, 116 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: and part one will be the defensive backs. But the 117 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: three of us have heard this, everybody kind of dissing 118 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: the defensive If the defense, if they could so the 119 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: defensive backs are well will start. But let's just get 120 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: a global thought here, because Matt, you're a discussion about 121 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: disrespect and the vibe on this team almost starts with 122 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: the defense, Sean, because everybody's thinking, gosh, the defense hasn't 123 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: been any good for five years. They were number one 124 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: or three in the league last year in the final 125 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: eight games of the year in points allowed. Yeah, it's 126 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: how you finished now and how you start the season. 127 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the defensive coordinator are the players 128 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: know that it's a it's a building. It's a building 129 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: up to play in playoff football. That most fans that 130 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: watch stats don't really account for it. They want to 131 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: know overall, where do you list where do you rank 132 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: defensively as far as points giving up, points allowed and 133 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. Well, as we know from 134 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: the playoffs, the number one points allowed defense gave up 135 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: in thirteen seconds a field goal that went into overtime 136 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: where you won the game. So if that's the type 137 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: of defense we're trying to aim for, that's not the 138 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: defense I want. I want a team that's gonna rise occasion, 139 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: that's gonna make big stops, make big plays, put quarterbacks 140 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: on the ground, make pick sixes, play consistently. I'm sound 141 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: football throughout the season. And to do that, sometimes you 142 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: gotta take a couple of stumbles and falls in the 143 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: first couple of weeks. It's a building block, it's a 144 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: building process, but you build upon some good days, some 145 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: some bad days. But what you want to do is 146 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: make sure at the end of the season you're playing 147 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: playoff football and that's accountable, that's fast, quick, that's making 148 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: plays all over the field, and I believe we have 149 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: the personnel at all three levels to do that. Yeah, 150 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into that very thought over the next 151 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: several of defending the Kingdoms. But you can also go back. 152 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: You can find our live stream that we did here 153 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: in camp archive with the three of us, and we 154 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: also get into that of the very thing that you mentioned, Matt. 155 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: If the defense, if the defense defensively, we have seen 156 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: this defense do great things at times, but you've heard 157 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: the same thing. Everybody's thinking, Gosh, the defense won't be 158 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: any good. What's interesting about this year as we said 159 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: goodbye to a lot of players that were on this 160 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: defense for a long time and they made great contributions 161 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: to this team. But we've turned the page now and 162 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: there's been an infusion of youth and talent and athleticism 163 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: on this defense. So outside of just defensive backs, all 164 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: players on this defense, I'm going to list off all 165 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: of these names. These guys are all either twenty five 166 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: years old or younger. Nick Bolton, Willie Gay, Legarius Sneed, 167 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: George Carloftus Rashad Finton, Joshua Williams, Brian Cook, Leo Chanel, 168 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: Jalen Watson. There's more. Think of all those players. All 169 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: of those guys have made plays in this camp. All 170 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: of those guys have a chance to make a real 171 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: impact on this team this year, and they're all super young, 172 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: and they're excited for the opportunity to just be in 173 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: the NFL and to compete on this defense. And while 174 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: there's been struggles in the past at times, we've been 175 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: seeing these guys who are young riots to the occasion 176 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: and They're not playing like players who were young. They 177 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: look like players that have been around a long time, 178 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: and that's very encouraging. That, to me, is the biggest 179 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: point of those guys you mentioned, because you're thinking, wow, 180 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: that defense is so young. We have seen their athletic ability, 181 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: but even more than that, what I've noticed from these 182 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: guys is their emotional maturity and their mental maturity to 183 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: start their careers in many cases or expand their careers. 184 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: That is very prevalent on this team, and that's what 185 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: the rest of the league does not see. You look 186 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: at the number and go east, twenty four, he's twenty three. Well, 187 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: sometimes you can be twenty three and act like you're ten. 188 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes you can be twenty three and act like you're 189 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: a seven year veteran. Justin Reid comes to mind. So 190 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: let's get into the defensive backs here. There are eighteen 191 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: in this camp. Rashad Fenton's on pup right now, physically 192 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: and able to perform. We've seen him make plays and 193 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: maybe the biggest play you've forgotten about in Super Bowl 194 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: fifty four when he corral Jimmy Garoppolo on the first 195 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: defensive stop that led to the avalanche in the Chiefs 196 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: winning that game. But let's go into this team now. 197 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: So jumping to the other seventeen hundred's, however, you depend 198 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: where you put Nassi Johnson as a safety or a corner. 199 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: It's split almost down in the middle nine nine. But 200 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: let's go into the safeties because this is where I'm 201 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: really excited about this team. Shop will start with you 202 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: what a Justin Reid can do, what a one Thornhill 203 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: who's back, or maybe the one Thornhill twenty nineteen or 204 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: his days at Virginia can do. And then some of 205 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: the younger guys or so you know, I mean, why 206 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: on Thornhill being from Uva, being from my hometown, obviously 207 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: I took a special interest in that young man when 208 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: he first entered the Kingdom and when I had a 209 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: phenomenal rookie year, and then in year two obviously that 210 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, that injury, UM kind of you know, shorting 211 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,599 Speaker 1: that that that that second year or that end of 212 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: the first year which led into year two, coming coming 213 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: back off an injury just really didn't seem like the 214 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: same explosive player I saw um coming out of college. 215 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: And so it was almost an identity crisis, like what 216 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: are we going to see this year. And I mean, 217 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people don't believe in going 218 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: out on social media and talking your own self, patting 219 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: yourself up up, or talking yourself up, but I was. 220 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: I was encouraged to see him do that. Um, he 221 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: promised the media he went out there and say, look, 222 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna see a different one thorn here. You're gonna 223 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: be seeing the guy that's gonna go a sideline and 224 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: sideline making plays in the box from a deep safety position, 225 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: a playmaker. It can do it all over the field. 226 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: And that's the guy that I knew we drafted when 227 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: he first got here. And so to see him back 228 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: to his own that natural swagger that he had when 229 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: I when I when I saw him come out, I'm 230 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: so delighted to see that we're gonna get that version 231 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: of that young man coming back with a little chip 232 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: on the shoulder again. A little sign of disrespect is 233 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: a good thing when you use it in a positive way. 234 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of our players for different reasons, 235 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: have been disrespected in the public eye around the league 236 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: as far as what this team defense is kind of 237 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: on paper schedule to do. And I think the guys 238 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: are using it in a way to really motivate themselves 239 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: and have come into camp mentally and physically prepared to 240 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: go out there and dominate Matt. You've spent a lot 241 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: of time with Justin Reid since he signed here as 242 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: a free agent. To me, this might be one of 243 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: the more sneaky not just for the Chief's Kingdom, but 244 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: in the entire National Football League, not just his ability 245 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: with that maturity and his ability to take responsibility beyond it. 246 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: So the tricky part of the NFL offseason calendar is 247 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: the free agency stuff all happens way back in March, 248 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: and I think we kind of forget almost like, oh yeah, 249 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: Justin Reid's here. And if you're ever wondering what's this 250 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: defense going to look like this season, just listen to 251 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: a Justin Reid pressor and you're going to leave that 252 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: feeling really good about what you heard. That guy's awesome. 253 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: He's a leader, he's insightful, and he's also one of 254 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: the best young safeties in all of football. And I 255 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: mentioned all the young players on this defense, they're looking 256 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: at him. They're looking at wan Thornhill as well, but 257 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: they're looking at the guy like Justin Reid, a veteran 258 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: that comes in here, signs a big contract. They're looking 259 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: at him for direction. And the beautiful thing about Justin 260 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: Reid is he wants to give that direction. So he 261 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: spoke to the media a few days ago when I 262 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: came away with just a bunch of notes about things 263 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: that really impressed me about him. First of all, you 264 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: have tape on your wrists, obviously, right. He writes notes 265 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: every single practice about things he wants to emphasize or 266 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: get better at. So a few days ago it was 267 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: communicate on one wrist and then backpedal and finish at 268 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: the ball on the other one. Really cool that he 269 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: was doing that. Other players will see that and go, 270 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: that's a guy that got a big contract and yet 271 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: still us to remind himself about little things when he's 272 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: out there. That's leading by example there. But also Justin 273 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: was talking about how the defense has gotten off to 274 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: a slow start in recent years. He took ownership of that, 275 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: even though he wasn't even here, He wasn't on those defenses. 276 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: That wasn't his fault, but he took ownership of it 277 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: and said, I don't want that to happen this year. 278 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: From week one. We want to go out there and dominate. 279 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: We want to be an attitude defense that when we 280 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: go out there, offenses know that we're gonna bring it 281 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: every single time. We don't want to take some time 282 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: to figure out, you know, how's this defense going to look? 283 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: From day one. He wants to be that dominant defense. 284 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: And of course it was going to be growing pains, 285 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: a lot of new players, a lot of young players 286 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: on this defense. You expect that, but the mentality is 287 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: the important thing. And every single day he's been coming 288 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: out here and saying, we are only as good as tomorrow. 289 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: One more thing on him. Obviously, once again, a big 290 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: name free agent has all the talent in the world, right, 291 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: so he can come out here and just do his 292 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: thing and ball out right now. You don't want that. 293 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: You want your guys to buy into Steve Spagnolo's system. 294 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: And it's possible that older guys might not want to 295 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: do that because they're like, I know what works, I 296 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: don't need to do that. But he picked off a 297 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: pass during seven on seven drills in the end zone 298 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: a few days ago, and he was asked about it 299 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: after practice and he said, I'm just playing the defense. 300 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: That's where I'm supposed to be. I'm bought into this 301 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: defense and I was rewarded with an interception. Just got 302 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: to catch the ball when I'm there. And once again, 303 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: if a veteran is saying that, if you're a young 304 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: player like Brian Cook or Joshua Williams, you're like, I'm 305 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: gonna buy into this defense too. If he's doing it, 306 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. And for all those reasons, I 307 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: could go on and on, Justin Reid has just been 308 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: great for this defense and I can't wait to see 309 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: it translate to the field on game day. Wouldn't be 310 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: stune some day as a US Senator from Louisiana. But honestly, 311 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: he is the exhibit A when I talked about emotional 312 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: and mental maturity at a young age. He is the 313 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: guy to me. You mentioned one Thornhill when he was healthy, 314 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: go back at fifty seven tackles, three interceptions, You remember 315 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: the pick six against the Raiders. Then he tore his 316 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: acl in the final regular season game and had to 317 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: set out that run to the Super Bowl fifty four championship. 318 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: I saw him in the locker room after the game 319 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: and he was happy, but he was he goes, man, 320 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: I just didn't feel like I was a part of it. Well, 321 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: now he's excited as he's been since he signed or 322 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: was drafted by this team. A couple more safeties want 323 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: to mention here, and then we're gonna move on to 324 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: the corners. In this episode of Defending the Kingdom called 325 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: If the Defense Part one with the dbs and that 326 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: are a young safety and a guy that the Chiefs 327 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: another sneaky pickup in free agency. The sneaky pickup is 328 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: Dion Bush from the Chicago Bears, a four core special 329 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: teams guy. With the Bears, he had seven hundred and 330 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: sixty sorry seven special teams plays, but three hundred and 331 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: sixty on defensive plays and was productive, including two interceptions. 332 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: And then Brian Cook, this is the favorite guy of 333 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: Matt McCallan in the whole draft, and when we drafted him, 334 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: we were having art, we had our own old draft room. 335 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: We were going crazy. Let's let's start with you shop 336 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: with these two guys, A veteran and Bush, four core 337 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: teams guy that could play when the Chiefs go to 338 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: extra safeties. We see Spags do that a lot. You'll 339 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: play nickel and dime with three safeties, which teams don't 340 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: normally do. And then a guy like Brian Cook and 341 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: save some of the Brian Cook from Matt because it'll 342 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: take the rest of the podcast. Well, I'm gonna, I'm 343 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: gonna throw out a name when you talk about Brian Cook, 344 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: Um he reminds me a lot in it and apologize, 345 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: but he reminds me of like Brian Dawkins. So I'm 346 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna put that that image in your in 347 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: your your in your mind and let you mull over 348 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: that while I talk about Bush, because that's a that's 349 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: a name that when you throw it out there and 350 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: you put Brian Dawkins image in your head and you 351 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: think about what SPAGS has done over the over the 352 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: years with a player like Brian Dawkins with that hittability 353 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: and that that that ferocity and to be able to 354 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: lay layout receivers the way he has to be an 355 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: inbox outbox free safety. The versatility of a player like that, 356 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: that's what jumped into my mind when I saw his 357 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: highlight film when we drafted him. But with Bush, Bush 358 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: is the guy that's gonna give coach Tobe Uh He's 359 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: gonna sleep a little easier. He's gonna be able to 360 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: go a go ahead and no, he can put that gunner, 361 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: put him on the wing, put him at the up back. 362 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: He's gonna be a guy that really absorbs our special 363 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: teams and probably will end up being one of the 364 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 1: special teams captains as we go into the season. Um, 365 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: you just you need four or five guys on your 366 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: team that know that, Yeah, if I don't start on 367 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: the offensive or defensive side of the ball, I am 368 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: just as important to this team because I'm a starter 369 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: in the third phase, which is special teams. And so 370 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: he's gonna be what we've we've noted a tip of 371 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: the spirit guy. He's gonna be the first first one in, 372 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: first one out. He'll be a guy that you know 373 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: is studying long studying Tennessee's on special teams. Account for 374 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 1: this young man to make multiple game changing plays in 375 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: that third phase, which is special teams. And not to 376 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: say that he can't back up one of our safeties 377 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: and be very intricral in our normal defensive downs as 378 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: a solid back in safety. Also, and Busch started, I'm 379 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: sorry not Bush, but Kuk started his career in College 380 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: of Howard, a very highly regarded HBCU before transferring to 381 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: that awesome secondary the Cincinnati Barracas. You jump in here 382 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: with Cook because you sent me the video, and go, 383 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: have you swatched Cook yet? I said no, but I will, 384 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: And then I couldn't take my eyes off. I mean, 385 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: you were spotting this guy all along. You guys are 386 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: ready for my Brian Cook monologue. Now that the date 387 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: was like April third or April fourth, And I texted 388 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: you while watching safety film as you just alluded to, 389 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: have you watched Brian Cook? And the next thing I 390 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: said was, this guy reminds me of Cam Chancellor. That's 391 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: a lofty comp that's tough, but he did. Just watching 392 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: his film all right. Fast forward to after we had drafted. 393 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: We're throwing up Brian Dawkins go ahead, yeah, yeah. Why 394 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: We're at draft Fest and I'm talking to him a 395 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: little bit and I'm like, just curious, who is your 396 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: favorite player growing up? Who's the guy that you try 397 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: to go out there and emulate on the field. And 398 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: he's like, honestly, Cam Chancellor, And I'm like, my man, 399 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: I said this about a few weeks ago. I love 400 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: his combination of being able to play the run, in 401 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: the pass so at Cincinnati last year, four hundred and 402 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: fifty one snaps and coverage and four hundred and forty 403 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: four snaps against the run. He was one of only 404 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: four defensive backs in the FBS to tally ninety five 405 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: tackles and tenant passes. Defense last season did a little 406 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: bit of everything. Think of how SPAGS runs this defense, 407 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: think of Daniel Sorenson's role as a hybrid linebackers safety 408 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: out there a lot in big nickel. Brian Cook was 409 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: born for that role. Now. I don't know how much 410 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: Spags will use him early on, but I know that 411 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: as long as Brian can pick up the playbook, he 412 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: physically can handle that position. And I'm very excited to 413 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: see how he can do over the course of this season. 414 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: I am confident he's going to make some plays for 415 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: us this year. And Deon Bush kind of a sneaky 416 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: offseason signing. I think he's one of those guys that 417 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: if you come up to training camp and you follow 418 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: the Chiefs but haven't been following every single signing, you'll 419 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: be like, who's twenty six out there on defense? As 420 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: Deon Bush? And I think he can make some plays 421 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: for US this year as well, both on defense in 422 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: those big safety looks as maybe an extra safety, or 423 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: also on special teams, as we've talked about, because you 424 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: need core special teamers. One thing we haven't talked about 425 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: much is a lot of player that played a lot 426 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: of special team snaps for this team last year are 427 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: no longer here. Yeah, and you want guys who are 428 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: experienced in that role because the margin of error in 429 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: the NFL is so slight that if you have a 430 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: mistake on special teams, that's the difference between winning and 431 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: losing special exactly. You want to experienced players that know 432 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: what they're doing, can go out and execute coach Tobe's 433 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: vision on special teams, and Deon Bush can do that. 434 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: I had that very discussion with coach Tobe and Andy 435 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: Hill just the other day about all the guys that 436 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: have to be replaced. But then it goes back to 437 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: the athleticism we've talked about, which this is a much 438 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: more athletic team and that usually leads to good special teams, 439 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: even though there won't be perfect all along. All right, quickly, 440 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: the rest of the safeties here, I'll just mentioned him. 441 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: Nazi Johnson's kind of is a safetier corner thundering Herd. Yeah, 442 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: there he is, Marshall, Zane Anderson played some last year. 443 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: Chris Lamon's back with this team. Could be a corner, 444 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: could be safety awesome and special teams then also Devin 445 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: Key and Nasira career. Now let's jump into the corners 446 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: just a few minutes here as we close out this podcast. 447 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: But the corners this is where again you talk about 448 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: teams or fans coming out to camp going who's twenty six? 449 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: They're going, well, who's twenty three at corner? Rookie Joshua 450 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: Williams there, Trent McDuffie at the other corner. We know 451 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: that LJ. Sneid could be probably top three slot corners 452 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: in the league. So let's start with you shop with 453 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: this cornerback crew again a redo reboot. But I'm liking 454 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: what I'm seeing so far. Yeah, I just I hope 455 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: that the mentality from a cornerback is to use training 456 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: camp to build some confidence. I want my safeties to 457 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: know when I'm inside of the lineman and I got 458 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: helped you outside, I'm gonna use you when I'm outside 459 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: of a linement and you're coming down as a whole safety. 460 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna stay on my leverage in my 461 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: man coverage throughout the echoed the whistle out. There's not 462 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: gonna be a point where I let up. I'm not 463 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: gonna glance back at the quarterback to Tom and abandon 464 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: you as a as as as a cornerback. I'm gonna 465 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: play my position the way it's supposed to be played. 466 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: And if I can build that confidence up in my secondary, 467 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: it allows the safeties to be free rangers, to be 468 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: able to show disguises and coverages because I know that 469 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: you know what you're supposed to do. And that's the 470 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: one thing in training camp you build that confidence in 471 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: each other. And then as far as mirability, you got 472 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: to be able to stay in front of these receivers 473 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: and not let them go up the field. You gotta 474 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: prevent them from getting in their route to give our 475 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: pass rush, to give the pass rushers and the green 476 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: dogs and the linebackers time to get to the quarterback 477 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: and make that quarterback a little bit get him off 478 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: his spot. So it goes hand in hand. The pass 479 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: rush and the coverage goes hand in hand. But it 480 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: comes down to communication, trust, and then accountability. You gotta 481 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: know your alignment, your assignment, and then you gotta go 482 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: out and execute. So I'm looking forward to seeing these 483 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: young guys getting put in some base coverage if needed to, 484 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: but then a lot of their raw skills to take 485 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: advantage allot of their raw skills, to show what it 486 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: is to be young and aggressive and even if you 487 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: gotta make some mistakes, this is the time where you 488 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: cut your teeth. This is the time where you learn 489 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: your lessons as a young corn in the league about 490 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: how does it feel to try to climb up a 491 00:22:55,359 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: six foot four wide receiver that has an amazing catch radius, 492 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: and how is the field to go against a four 493 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: two sky more going down the field, test your test 494 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: your limits. I'm push your limits. Fail a little bit, 495 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,239 Speaker 1: It'll make you a much better player and then make 496 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: you a much more consistent corner come game day during 497 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: the season, especially with the teams the Chiefs will play 498 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: this year in the AFC and the six games in 499 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: the AFC West. You just described, Mike Williams. You just 500 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: described guys at quarterbacks in this league that want to 501 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: hit you at that third level. Okay, Joshua Williams Division 502 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: two to me, I lose sleepover a lot of stuff. 503 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: If I'm losing sleepover these guys, it's because I'm excited 504 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: and not anxiety, just because I've seen more than I 505 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: thought I would see at this point. And with Trent McDuffie, 506 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: we know about sneat in the slot, but these corners, 507 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be perfect, it's not gonna be instant oatmeal. 508 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: But I think the upside is as since Andy's been here, 509 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure there hasn't been this much upside 510 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: at corner. You know, what makes it easier to cover 511 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: a six four receiver as if you're six foot three 512 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: like Joshua Williams. Is certainly helps. And the Chiefs over 513 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: the years just haven't had a lot of very super 514 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: tall corners. That's fine, I mean, they made up for 515 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: it with athleticism. But this offseason there seemed to be 516 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: an emphasis on trying to get some longer corners in here. 517 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: And for example, last year, the Chiefs didn't have any 518 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: corners over six foot two. They have three in this camp. 519 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: Joan Watson out of Washington State, Lonnie Johnson from the 520 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: Houston Texans, and of course Joshua Williams out of Fayetteville State, 521 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: and we were curious, with Joshua coming from a smaller school, 522 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: how quickly can he adapt to NFL football. And we're 523 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: watching OTA's Mitch and we're like, oh, he can kind 524 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: of hang right now, like already, and let's see how 525 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: it translates to camp right and so far, I mean, 526 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: he's been looking really good. There's that video out there 527 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: of Juju Smith Schuster making a great catch deep down 528 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: in the field. Well, Joshua Williams. What made that play 529 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: so great for Juju is Joshua Williams was in perfect 530 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: coverage on that play. Juju just made a great play 531 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: on the ball. But the important thing Coach Reid has 532 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: mentioned this is that there are bodies on bodies. They're 533 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: making it difficult these receivers. Joshua Williams is a rookie 534 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: in this league. He didn't play any caliber competition like 535 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: this when he was in school, and yet he is 536 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: adapting already to the game. And he gets back to 537 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: Justin Reid. Reid mentioned that Joshua is buying into the system, 538 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: and that's all you can ask for from these players. 539 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: Go out there, know the playbook, buying into the system 540 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: and just get better every single day, work on your communication, 541 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: grow as a defense together, and we're seeing that so 542 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: far from him. One thing, and I'd excite you about 543 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: the opening game against Arizona's LJ. Sneety has five career interceptions, 544 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: four against NFC teams. Just tell him he's going to 545 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: play the NFC all the time. But he's a very 546 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: good slot corner. You mentioned Jalen Watson, you mentioned Lonnie Johnson. 547 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm just going to mention the other corners here. DiCaprio Bootle, 548 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: former Nebraska Cornhusker, played some with this team last year. 549 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: Same with DeAndre Baker, also a local kid. In fact, 550 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: his mom I sat with his mom on today's practice. 551 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: Brandon Dandridge who played at Missouri Western here in Division two. 552 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: So neat kid. And then don't sleep up on Rashad 553 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: Fenton's on P p P right now. But he made 554 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: the play to start the Avalanche in Super Bowl fifty 555 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: four when he contained Jimmy Garoppolo on a third down scramble. 556 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: And so Fenton's made big plays for this team. So overall, 557 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: as we close it, just this thought on if the 558 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: defense and the DBS and where you want to see 559 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: this camp go from you two guys who will wrap 560 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: it up? Well, I'll started. I mean, listen, where you 561 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: started at didn't have anything to do with your destination. 562 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: I started at University of Richmond, small school ten years 563 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: later and spide us but ten years later, had a 564 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: great career in the NFL, And I look forward to 565 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: the Fentons and the Williams and all these under underappreciated, 566 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: underdrafted Gays. If you if you got some air and 567 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: opportunity right here on the field, this is where you 568 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: prove that you belong and this is where you accelerate 569 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: and go out there and make play. So if you 570 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: ask me what if, I'll say the defense, why not? 571 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: Why not us? Why not now? Why not? Right now? 572 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: Be one of the top defenses in the league. And 573 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: it's not about doing anything special or anything unique except 574 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: for playing hard nose, smart football, being accountable to your 575 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: teammates in the position you know you're supposed to be in, 576 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: and then finishing the play. That is what you need 577 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: from a player to player to build some confidence in 578 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: one another. And then, like Reed said, we got to 579 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: have great communication. We got a backpedal, we need it. 580 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: But then we got to be able to finish the play, 581 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: finish the play strong, and if you can have that 582 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: kind of trust in each other, it is no doubt 583 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: we're not gonna lose any sleep for this twenty twenty 584 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: two defense. Yeah, I just say, you know, it's only 585 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: day four for the veterans, stay seven for the rookies. 586 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: But I'm super encouraged by what I've seen out of 587 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: this defense so far. And when you have so many 588 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: young players, to see them out there being on their spot, 589 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: following their assignments correctly as far as we can tell, 590 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: and making plays, it's just really exciting. Now. The next 591 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: big test is the pads come on on Monday, August first, 592 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: the pads will be on, and we'll learn something new 593 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: about these guys when they're actually playing football out there. 594 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: But at least, so far, so good for these dbs. 595 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: I'll buy you both lunch. If any of these guys 596 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: we mentioned shy away when the pads are on, I 597 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be just the opposite defense. I've talked 598 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: to speech Steve Spagnola many times in just private discussions. 599 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: Defense has change in the NFL the days of the 600 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: eighty five Bears and the two thousand Ravens are over. 601 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: But if you have a defense that is explosive and 602 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: can make turn on you place, think about the Nick 603 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: Bolton scoop and score against Denver. Those are the defenses 604 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: that are dangerous and win championships. The Chiefs are working 605 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: on one right here for Matt mcfonland and Sean Barbera. 606 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm Mitch Holtis. We'll have some more podcasts coming up. 607 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: Just stay hooked in with us. I'm training camp right 608 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: here on defending the Kingdom. Touch down, walking down, and 609 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: the celebration begins in their hand