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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us. I want to let

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Speaker 2: you know in advance, I'm not going to be on

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Speaker 2: the third hour. I've got to travel, but it's not

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Speaker 2: going to be because I have been arrested, at least

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Speaker 2: not yet, for saying that any American patriot should vote

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Speaker 2: to nullify charges against Donald Trump that are one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent politically motivated. In my mind, in the case that

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Speaker 2: is beginning today in New York, and I believe if

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Speaker 2: you care about the future of this country, the idea

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Speaker 2: that we should be bringing political charges again, make no mistake,

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Speaker 2: these are one hundred percent politically motivated charges against people

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Speaker 2: who are running for president of the United States is

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Speaker 2: the antithesis of everything that this country represents. And so

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Speaker 2: jurors have the opportunity need to say no, this is wrong.

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Speaker 2: And so I think that's the case in New York.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the case in South Florida. I think

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Speaker 2: that's the case in DC, and I think that's the

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Speaker 2: case in Atlanta. Now it appears maybe only this New

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Speaker 2: York City case is going to go to trial, but

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Speaker 2: for saying that, many left wingers now are up in

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Speaker 2: arms demanding that I be arrested for jury tampering. So

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Speaker 2: I just think this is so important, And first of all,

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Speaker 2: I welcome it, all right, Alvin Bragg.

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Speaker 1: I welcome being arrested.

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Speaker 2: For saying that you are bringing a one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: political case, and that patriotic Americans who have the opportunity

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Speaker 2: to reject your one hundred percent political charges should, in

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Speaker 2: my opinion, do so. But think about what we've got now, Buck,

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Speaker 2: this is where Trump is right.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to stop with him.

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Speaker 2: Think about what these left wingers are now arguing about

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Speaker 2: with me, Buck. They're not only saying Trump should go

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Speaker 2: to prison over these bookkeeping errors that are being elevated

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Speaker 2: from a misdemeanor to a felony that are outside, by

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Speaker 1: There's all sorts of major legal issues here.

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Speaker 2: But they are now arguing that not only should Trump

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Speaker 2: be arrested for this, people who criticize their political process

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Speaker 2: should be arrested for what they believe is improper commentary

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Speaker 2: on their political charges.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's how expansive this is.

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Speaker 3: The Democrats want, or at least this Democrat who's a

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Speaker 3: member of Congress, Eric Swalwell, the ability to put in place,

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Speaker 3: effectively a universal gag order so that you're not allowed

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Speaker 3: to share your opinions. I'm not allowed to share mine,

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Speaker 3: and no one listening is allowed to share their opinions either.

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Speaker 3: None of you are allowed to have a public opinion

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Speaker 3: on the most absurd trial that even some Democrats who

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Speaker 3: just can't stomach how preposterous this is. Using an unnamed,

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Speaker 3: unproven federal charge to take what is usually a misdemeanor

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Speaker 3: campaign finance issue for New York State and elevated to

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Speaker 3: a felony, and then charged the same felony thirty three times.

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Speaker 3: These people are psychopathic. There is something wrong with them.

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Speaker 3: There's something wrong well. Swalwell is truly an imbecile. And obviously,

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Speaker 3: you know, let's just say a guy who can be

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Speaker 3: And by the way, I remember when Tucker used to

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Speaker 3: particular glee and pointing that out. But then you see

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Speaker 3: someone like Swawell. I mean, he deserves it. He's a

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Speaker 3: He's a bad guy in terms of what he stands

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Speaker 1: That's for sure.

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Speaker 3: But I think it also goes to there's going to

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Speaker 3: be an increasing desperation here. They're not going to back off.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna get nastier. Biden is a joke. We can

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Speaker 3: all see it. Biden is an absurdity. He is far

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Speaker 3: too old. Even in his best days, he was never

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Speaker 3: days are about twenty or thirty years behind him. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so we all know what's happening here. The polls are

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Speaker 3: going against Biden massively, and all of the swing states,

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Speaker 3: the legal stratagems they have unveiled against Donald Trump are

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Speaker 3: And this is why I don't think there's been enough

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Speaker 3: But he's supposed to get months in prison for not

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Speaker 3: testifying to Congress Alan Weiselberg, Trump's accountant. They sent him

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Speaker 3: don't even honestly know. You have to, you know, because

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Speaker 3: as a tax thing in the first place, Hunter Biden

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Speaker 3: launder it's tax day, everybody. Let's talk about this for

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Speaker 3: a second. Hunter Biden should have been hit with money

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Speaker 3: laundering charges. He was actively hiding millions of dollars of income,

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Speaker 3: and they thought that they would just make the whole

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Speaker 3: what they're doing against Trump with any you know, as

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, the more you think about it, I mean,

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Speaker 3: we just have to keep going here and you know,

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Speaker 3: It's anger inducing what they're doing to Trump, and I

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Speaker 3: think more and more people are seeing that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again this is it's gonna be funny.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how long this demand that I be arrested

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Speaker 2: for saying that no one should vote to convict Trump

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Speaker 2: will go on. But it is really kind of crazy

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Speaker 2: because really what it's about is restricting your ability to

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Speaker 2: try to say, oh, you can't say that, and come

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Speaker 2: after you in that respect. And I just any American

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Speaker 2: and keep him in trial. Judge Marshand just said if

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Speaker 2: every day of this as this is going on, that

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Speaker 2: he will arrest Trump.

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Speaker 1: So he only gets to campaign on Wednesday. Right, This

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Speaker 1: is for months now.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be in a courtroom in Manhattan sitting

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Speaker 2: This is clear election interference, and they're claiming that Trump

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Speaker 2: so I just I don't see this as a tough

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Speaker 2: care about the future of America.

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Speaker 1: This has never happened before. Buck.

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Speaker 2: We talk about unprecedented things a lot in the two

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Speaker 2: hundred and forty plus year history of the United States

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Speaker 2: as an independent republic, we have never seen the chief

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Speaker 2: political opposition try to put their opponent in prison for

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Speaker 2: the rest of his life. Everyone to your point, surrounding him,

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Speaker 2: including a radio guy who's just telling you, Hey, I

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Speaker 2: think this is all wrong and that jury nullification to

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Speaker 2: me makes sense here, I think you should. They're no

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Speaker 2: a rig system already, They're not gonna get twelve jurors

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Speaker 1: But this is a no brainer to me.

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Speaker 3: Well, someone would also have to explain how it's not

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Speaker 3: jury tampering. Then for an MSNBC host to say Trump

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Speaker 3: should be convicted. Of course, I mean so in the

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Speaker 3: other direction, they'll have no problem with it. Right, it's

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Speaker 3: jury tampering. According to Swallwell, the idiot if you say

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Speaker 3: it's jury tampering. If somebody with a platform on the

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Speaker 3: they've said everything about the guy, and they've they've completely

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Speaker 3: lost all credibility to anybody who's trying to approach this

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Speaker 3: that there's a sensitivity right now, you're gonna see more

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Speaker 3: than It's worse than a mistake. It's a blunder. That's

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Speaker 1: Worse than a mistake. It's a blunder because it looks

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Speaker 3: Charging a presidential care The first trial they roll out

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Speaker 3: is is this And as I've said all along, if

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Speaker 3: it was reportable as campaign as a campaign expense.

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Speaker 1: They tried this actually.

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Speaker 3: Against John Edwards, something similar ish, right, getting money to

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Speaker 3: reel Hunter? Right, wasn't that her name? Make sure we

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Speaker 3: the scummy ambulance chaser John Edwards. And scummy for a

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Speaker 3: whole range of reasons. Remember Clay, he only cheated on

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Speaker 3: They brought this, They got this money to his the

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Speaker 3: of like a new age you know, wind chime healing

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Speaker 3: the whole thing was kind of a rebuke of the

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Speaker 3: federal government going after somebody in this way. It was overreach,

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Speaker 3: and now they're trying this on the local level, leveraging

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Speaker 3: We don't even know what the federal the federal violation is,

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Speaker 3: and I mean we can guess, but they haven't even

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Speaker 3: made it clear. This is this is Leventzi Bert. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: I'm really going heavy with the quotes to that this

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Speaker 3: is Lovenzi Barrier. You show me the man, I'll show

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Speaker 3: you the crime and we can all see it.

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Speaker 1: Everyone can see it. What's going on in New York

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Speaker 1: City right now, and I don't know where it ends. That.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing that is so interesting about all of this.

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Speaker 2: I think there's panic setting in because they're recognizing that

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Speaker 2: the likelihood of there being a.

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Speaker 1: Of their being an ability to.

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Speaker 2: Get a conviction in DC, Atlanta or South Florida every

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Speaker 2: single day is becoming less likely.

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Speaker 1: And as a result, way if.

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Speaker 3: They bring all these and they don't get any convictions,

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Speaker 3: that's saying for the election, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I think it's you know, it's like you come at

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Speaker 2: the King and you miss the line from the wire.

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Speaker 2: If you come at the King, you best not miss.

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Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing, Mom, that's the line. Yeah, they came at Trump.

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Speaker 3: We were talking to you a little bit about the protesters.

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Speaker 3: One of them or some of them went up to Fetterman.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Bock Sexton Show. Okay, let's

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Speaker 2: talk this Aaron Israel situation that I'm sure many of

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Speaker 2: It's one thing if we have a super secret attack

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Speaker 2: I can't remember an adversary which Iran clearly is attacking

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Speaker 3: Well, what makes this new is the direct strike from

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Speaker 1: I mean it's terrorists that they did that.

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Speaker 3: This is why Iran funds funds trains, works with coordinates

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Speaker 3: a front in the north of Israel simultaneously to an

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Speaker 3: Iranian strike like this, they may be able to overwhelm

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Speaker 3: the defense capabilities of the IDF, including the you know,

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Speaker 3: Jordanian Air Force helped out here. There were there were

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Speaker 3: a number of of you know, allies that also stepped

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Speaker 3: in to prevent this strike from from happening or from

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Speaker 3: you know, hitting any casualties. But now you get to

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Speaker 3: a why do this right? I mean, the do the

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Speaker 3: Iranians really think that they were going to get through

447
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Speaker 3: and they were going to be able to hit them

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Speaker 3: or was this all just essentially.

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Speaker 1: For show?

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Speaker 3: You know, the Iranians had something similar to this if

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Speaker 3: you remember when Trump ordered the strike on Costom Solomani

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Speaker 3: in in Iraq, and Costom Solomoni was the head of

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Speaker 3: the Iranian Revolutionary Guards KODS force and was very well

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Speaker 3: known throughout the Middle East for being kind of like

455
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Speaker 3: the prince of evil in the sense, I mean he

456
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Speaker 3: was behind a lot of the terrorist factions and the

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Speaker 3: murder of US troops in Iraq. For example, Remember we

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Speaker 3: weren't at war with Iran, but the Iranian government was

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Speaker 3: assisting in the creation of these explosively formed penetrators e FPS,

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Speaker 3: which is a specific munition and explosive meant to breach

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Speaker 3: the wholes of US vehicles and to kill American servicemen,

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Speaker 3: just to kill people, just to kill our people, just

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Speaker 3: because the Iranians wanted to so did that. And then

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Speaker 3: there there were those strikes on the American airfield in Iraq,

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Speaker 3: and I don't believe anybody.

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Speaker 1: Was killed in those. I have to go back and

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Speaker 1: check and see.

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Speaker 3: But this is a we are showing you that we

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Speaker 3: can do something too moment by Iran. The bigger issue

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Speaker 3: is over the long run, does it escalate, does it

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Speaker 3: become something that the Iranians aside. Well, now we know

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Speaker 3: that we can hit them directly, and since we can

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Speaker 3: hit them directly, maybe we'll do more the next time around.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we'll coordinate. As I said with Hesblo would be

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Speaker 3: the one that's particularly just because of the proximity and

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Speaker 3: the amount of munitions they have. But they can just

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Speaker 3: fire so many rockets in the air that it's just

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Speaker 3: impossible for the Israelis to be able to shoot them

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Speaker 3: all down. But this is all just posturing by the

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Speaker 3: Iranians around the issue of Gaza and the Palestinians and Hamas.

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Speaker 3: I think that it will likely calm down a bit.

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Speaker 3: And I thought all along that Iran will make noises

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Speaker 3: and saber rattle if you will. That's the term they

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Speaker 3: was used international relations. I don't see this spiraling out

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Speaker 3: on becoming a bigger thing. People are saying, well, what

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Speaker 3: if Israel hits them back? Well, if Israel hits them back,

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Speaker 3: first of all, it is really very quiet about it.

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Speaker 3: But they've been doing stuff against Iran for quite some time.

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Speaker 3: Unless they had some massive aerial campaign, it would have

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Speaker 3: to be a campaign against Iran hitting let's say, nuclear

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Speaker 3: facilities or something like that. I don't see this becoming

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Speaker 3: a more all out war situation. I think that this

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Speaker 3: is probably just a new phase we're in.

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Speaker 2: So the big question I think going forward is the

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Speaker 2: But this is why Iran wants nuclear weapons, because their

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Speaker 2: idea is once they have them, then the likelihood of

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Speaker 2: them being attacked becomes very low. For instance, Ukraine gave

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Speaker 2: up its nuclear weapons and as a part of giving

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Speaker 2: up its nuclear weapons. If you remember Buck, Basically the

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Speaker 2: United States said, hey, hey, we'll protect you. Do you

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Speaker 2: think Russia would have invaded Ukraine if Ukraine had maintained

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Speaker 2: its nuclear arsenal.

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Speaker 3: Of course, and that's why the Buddhapest Memorandum, man A,

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Speaker 3: that's a tough lesson to learn. Ukraine had the third

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Speaker 3: most nukes in the world at the fall of the

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Speaker 3: Soviet Union and Russia. The UK and America were like,

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Speaker 3: don't worry, Ukraine, hand over your nukes. We've got your back.

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Speaker 3: Fast forward many decades or several decades, and Russia's like, well, actually,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna invade and take and take over your country. Yes,

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Speaker 3: And so I think Iran has taken the lesson that, eventually,

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Speaker 3: if they are able, and by the same goal that

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Speaker 3: North Korea has, that the number one way to secure

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Speaker 3: your borders and avoid anyone ever trying to overthrow your

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Speaker 3: government is to have nuclear power. I am somewhat encouraged

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Speaker 3: that Saudi Arabia and Jordan, among others, were involved in

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Speaker 3: helping to shoot down these Iranian missiles, but it definitely

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Speaker 3: feels it definitely feels as if to me this was

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Speaker 3: all one big show and there's a report out there

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Speaker 3: that Biden knew everything about this and basically said, you

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Speaker 3: can attack, but you can't attack that much, which feels

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Speaker 3: very political to me because Biden is underwater in Michigan

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Speaker 3: and he's in a really tough spot between how Jewish

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Speaker 3: voters are going to go and make decisions when they

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Speaker 3: go to the polls and how all of this is

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Speaker 3: going to play out, and so to me, like, it's

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Speaker 3: really kind of intriguing to think about in terms.

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Speaker 1: Of how this is all going to shake down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I also think that unfortunately, in the media environment

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Speaker 3: in which we all exist, the incentive is always to overstate,

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Speaker 3: you know, well this could turn into you know, people

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Speaker 3: have been calling for China's imminent invasion of Tyrene, know,

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Speaker 3: saying that it's about to invade Taiwan for like twenty

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Speaker 3: years now, I mean, and somehow it hasn't happen. Right,

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Speaker 3: World War three as a headline gets clicks. Anybody who

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Speaker 3: has I was actually reading about World War One up

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Speaker 3: the weekends, is what I do. Anybody with any familiarity

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Speaker 3: about either those conflicts knows we want to do everything

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Speaker 3: possible to avoid anything even remotely resembling what the country

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Speaker 3: went through in the first half of the twentieth century,

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Speaker 3: so we're a long way away from that right now.

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Speaker 3: I know it's unsettling what's going on in the Middle East,

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Speaker 3: but unfortunately for the Middle East, this is this is

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Speaker 3: how it goes.

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Speaker 2: It's also interesting that there was a great deal of

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Speaker 2: faith in Israel's Iron Dome to be able to protect

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Speaker 2: itself from this direct attack. Now again, I know, the

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Speaker 2: United States, maybe England, also Jordan, in Saudi Arabia i've

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Speaker 2: seen reportedly were involved in this as well. But if

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Speaker 2: Israel couldn't defend itself, then there would have been thousands

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Speaker 2: of deaths based on the sheer volume of missiles and

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Speaker 2: drones that Iran sent into Israel. Well, this had been

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Speaker 2: true for a lot long time of Hamas as well.

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Speaker 2: When they would fire these rockets, they get shot out

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Speaker 2: of the sky, and people started to almost accept this

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Speaker 2: as a new status quo. But it can't be the

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Speaker 2: status quo that you have to keep stopping somebody from

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Speaker 2: killing your people, right, that's an unacceptable status quo. And

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Speaker 2: we'll see if Iran tries to. You know, Iranian technology

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Speaker 2: is basically you know, in terms of its missiles, a

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Speaker 2: lot of it's like Soviet era stuff and North Korean

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Speaker 2: borrowed or bought stuff. So you know, they're not that

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Speaker 2: sophisticated Iran as a conventional military power. And look, there's

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Speaker 2: a reason they use these proxies because ultimately a lot

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Speaker 2: of these proxy forces that are backed by Iran, you know,

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Speaker 2: AK forty seven who have no ability to defend themselves.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's really that's where Iranian you know, the

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Speaker 2: Iranian mullahs and the evil regime that runs that country,

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Speaker 3: But I would think that that he would be maybe

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Speaker 2: I would hope that Julie Kelly would cover the trial too,

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Speaker 2: the awful sketch the sketch artist the sketch artists started doing.

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Speaker 2: Remember the ugly Brady's sketch artist. I mean what I

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Speaker 2: don't want that guy if he made Tom Brady look

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Speaker 2: ugly in the courtroom sketch, I mean, what would he

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Speaker 2: do to me? I would be uh, I would I

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Speaker 2: would look I would look like the scariest human who's

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Speaker 2: ever existed. By the way, this could turn into a story.

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Speaker 2: Buck Trump has requested a day off to attend Baron

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Speaker 2: Trump's high school graduation, which is set in May.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen years old. I believe graduating from high school in May.

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Speaker 1: Six foot ten.

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Speaker 3: By the way, too, have you seen that kid in

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Speaker 3: photos recently? Kids should be playing for the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he could play the four or the five based

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Speaker 2: on his size. Certainly in high school he'd maybe the

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Speaker 2: greatest WNBA player of all time if he decided to

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Speaker 2: identify as a woman, but the court has not said

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Speaker 2: whether they will allow that, And if he can't go

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Speaker 2: to his son's high school graduation next month, then merchand

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Speaker 2: has said if Trump didn't show up that he would

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Speaker 2: arrest him. So Trump might get arrested for going to

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Speaker 2: his son's high school graduation based on the discussions that

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Speaker 2: are taking place in this courtroom right now. He has

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Speaker 2: not said whether he would grant Trump's ability to not

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Speaker 2: be in court that day. And so if Trump decided, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna go see my son graduate,

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Speaker 2: Merchant is saying he would arrest him at the graduation ceremonies.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what are we doing here.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna arrest a guy for going to his eighteen

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Speaker 2: year old senior son's graduation. You gotta arrest a guy

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Speaker 2: on the radio for saying that this is an affront

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Speaker 2: to American justice to be trying to put him into

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Speaker 2: prison in the first place. This is where absolutism leads.

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Speaker 2: You don't get more rational once you become an absolutist.

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Speaker 2: You like history, buck the French Revolution, They end up

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Speaker 2: guillotining themselves. Before all is done, Rose Pierre makes everybody

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Speaker 2: march there, and.

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Speaker 3: Then he ended up getting idiot safety man deciding who

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Speaker 3: gets their head chopped off behind closed doors all of

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Speaker 3: the revolution.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the notes bear got it himself, no surprise,

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Speaker 1: so we'll see. I'm not being arrested yet.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be in Atlanta tomorrow in case the Da

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Speaker 2: Bragg needs to arrest me there, and then I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: be out. I'm speaking at an event in Georgia, and

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Speaker 2: then I'm flying out for our friends at Hillsdale. I'll

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Speaker 2: be in Seattle, so if Alvin Bragg needs to arrest

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Speaker 2: me there, I don't want it to seem like I'm

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Speaker 2: fleeing OJ style all over the country. Go into Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: I'll be on the show from Atlanta tomorrow, and then

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Speaker 2: I'm going to Seattle to speak out there. So if

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Speaker 2: Alvin Bragg needs to arrest me, i will not be

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Speaker 2: at the house. There's no need to kick the door in,

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Speaker 2: there's no need to raid the Travis family home. I

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Speaker 2: will be in Atlanta and I'll be in Seattle.

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