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Speaker 1: What up bright Side Besties, Hello Sunshine. Today on the

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Speaker 1: bright Side, our segment, Grand Old Granny's is back with

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Speaker 1: parenting advice from Doctor Flow Rosen aka TikTok's very favorite Grandma.

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Speaker 1: Ask Bubby, it's Monday, April eighth.

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Speaker 2: I'm Danielle Robey and I'm Simone. Boys. This is the

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Speaker 2: bright Side from Hello Sunshine.

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Speaker 1: This is the first time we are recording apart sea money.

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Speaker 1: Where are you recording from? Are you stuck in a

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Speaker 1: little closet?

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Speaker 2: Where are you? I am at a hotel in Madina,

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Speaker 2: New York, because I am here to witness the total

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Speaker 2: eclipse of the sun later on today.

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Speaker 1: If I threw a dart onto a map, you think

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Speaker 1: I would find it.

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Speaker 2: It's a tiny, tiny little town. I have a lot

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Speaker 2: of my dad's family from here, so this is actually great.

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Speaker 2: I get to catch up with my family members that

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Speaker 2: I never see, and we're gonna watch this phenomenon take place.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited you're there because you're gonna give us

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Speaker 1: a first hand account of what it was all.

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Speaker 2: Like yes coming to tomorrow. You can hear my loud

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Speaker 2: breathing and reactions and oohs and ahs as I witness

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Speaker 2: the solar eclipse.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't mean to get deep, but I

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Speaker 1: do think that there's this amazing feeling that humans get

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Speaker 1: with awe awe, and so I hope you feel some awe.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to hear about it. That's what I'm looking for.

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Speaker 2: But first we're going to get into what's popping on

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Speaker 2: our feeds today. This is your morning drip, Danielle. We

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Speaker 2: have some very big news from our Hello Sunshine family.

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Speaker 2: Who is it? Big news and an exciting update for

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Speaker 2: all the Elwoods fans out there. So, a TV series

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Speaker 2: inspired by Legally Blond is currently in development at Amazon.

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Speaker 2: It is happening people.

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Speaker 1: We've all been wanting more el Woods, like I watched

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Speaker 1: Legally Blonde on almost every airplane ride.

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Speaker 2: I'm on now I'm going to get new content totally.

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Speaker 2: It's ubiquitous. It's a seminal film for feminists, for just

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Speaker 2: Hollywood in general. This comes up a lot though, when

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Speaker 2: we're working on the show and doing interviews with folks

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Speaker 2: on the show, they talk about how Elle Woods has

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Speaker 2: inspired them to pursue law or politics. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: impact is just immeasurable from this one character.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I realized it when I was growing

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Speaker 1: up because I just loved the movie. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was so fun and I loved watching her outfits and

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Speaker 1: her friendship with her sorority sisters. But I actually watched

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Speaker 1: recently on a plane ride to New York and realized

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Speaker 1: how well it stood up, Like not every movie from

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Speaker 1: how culture is spoken about, and it really does stand up.

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Speaker 2: And you can bet we're going to be getting that

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Speaker 2: same quality because Reese Wetherspoon is back as one of

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Speaker 2: the series executive producers. I mean, I cannot wait for this.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have to have some sort of bright Side

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Speaker 2: launch party for this.

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Speaker 1: She produces our podcast and legally Blonde the series How

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Speaker 1: Cool Is That?

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Speaker 2: Very also exciting.

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Speaker 1: Sex in the City is now available on Netflix, So

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Speaker 1: for those of you like me that love Sex in

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Speaker 1: the City, you'll remember it's triumphant run on HBO in

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Speaker 1: the late nineteen nineties and early two thousands, And I

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Speaker 1: think it's kind of surreal to see the sitcom vault

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Speaker 1: into the Netflix Top ten.

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Speaker 2: That means gen Z is watching too, I think.

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Speaker 1: And until last year, HBO had a policy where they

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Speaker 2: So now I think you.

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Speaker 1: Get to decide if you're a Carrie, A Miranda, Samantha, Charlotte,

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Speaker 1: or a mix on multiple platforms.

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Speaker 2: Which one are you?

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Speaker 1: I always felt like I was a mix between Carrie

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Speaker 2: How about you? I honestly don't know enough about it

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Speaker 1: I feel like we need a weekend to lay in

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Speaker 1: There is a huge lack of representation in the original series,

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Speaker 1: think that women who date their twenties and thirties see

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Speaker 1: what was my Sex and the City Girls.

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Speaker 2: That was my version. It was like a little bit quirkier,

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Speaker 1: I didn't love the show as much. I hear what

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, Danielle. Personal question, how many group chats

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like that's that personal. I'm involved in

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Speaker 1: probably like four group chats. One is with my family.

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Speaker 2: you know, that's a good question. I feel like a

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Speaker 2: let's talk about a group chat that has five members

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Speaker 2: Because Melby from The Spice Girls recently revealed that she

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. This is egregious. Can you believe it?

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Speaker 1: The Spice Girls are five girls. You can't have four

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Speaker 1: girls and the Spice Girls. Okay, Well, she wasn't actually

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Speaker 1: the group chat. And here's why this is her crime.

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Speaker 1: She apparently leaked intel from the chat about a possible

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Speaker 1: Spice Girls reunion tour. So this is actually very very

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Speaker 2: She can't be trusted. Group chats are sacred. I'm still

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Speaker 2: stuck on the fact that a thirtieth reunion tour might

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Speaker 2: be in the works. Are you gonna be there?

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Speaker 1: Spice Girls set up my entire life, Like I was

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Speaker 1: Spice Girls obsessed. I watched that movie over and over again,

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Speaker 1: Spice World, Oh my God. I wanted to look like them,

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Speaker 1: and dress like them and eat lollipops like them.

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Speaker 2: I was obsessed eat lollipops like them. I'm sorry, can

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Speaker 1: They had Spice Girls lollipops, and I just begged my

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Speaker 2: That is so obscure. The Spice Girls are woven into

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Speaker 1: I do think there's something actually, like culturally deeper here,

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Speaker 1: Spice Girls actually had more to do with feminism than

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Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred percent, Which Spice girl do you identify

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Speaker 2: with the most now or then? Then? Well, actually I

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Speaker 1: Okay, Then I was obsessed with Ginger. I loved her

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Speaker 1: these like sexy outfits. It's with her, like British flag

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm in sneakers and workout clothes.

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Speaker 2: How about you? This question is a little bit triggering

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Speaker 2: for me because as a biracial girl with curly hair,

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Speaker 2: like that in your friend group, at least where I

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Speaker 2: grew up. Yeah, you have no choice, but to be

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Speaker 2: and no shade to Melbe. But I just wanted to

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Speaker 2: had an affinity towards Baby. We actually share the same birthday.

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Speaker 2: But now I totally agree. I am sporty spice in

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Speaker 2: my day to day life. Yes, no, you really are

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Speaker 2: like crop tops, sports spras cargo pants. I'm all about it.

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Speaker 1: We both lean heavy into the sports girl aesthetic.

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Speaker 2: girl group Speaking of girl groups, Okay, I actually do

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Speaker 2: have a few group chats in my phone right now,

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Speaker 2: and one of them is all about a bachelorette party

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Speaker 2: and it's kind of taking over my whole life. Oh

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Speaker 2: my god.

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Speaker 1: Bachelorette parties are the bane of my whole existence. I

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Speaker 1: have friends now, like my really close friends know not

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Speaker 2: And why are you laughing? That's not a great thing.

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Speaker 1: No, it's a loving thing, because then I don't have

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, keep going, keep going. I never want

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Speaker 2: to be seen in a penis hat. Ever. I here's

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Speaker 1: I was invited to a bachelorette my good friend Chelsea,

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Speaker 1: So I couldn't say no, because it's like for sometimes

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I went.

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Speaker 1: It was in Nashville. She rented the most gorgeous airbnb.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, let me tell you about this new trend

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Speaker 2: might be your opt out please for bachelorette parties. Okay, so,

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Speaker 2: instead of a bachelorette party, apparently, wellness weekends are the

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Speaker 2: new thing to do. So you don't have to have

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Speaker 2: this like blowout, hangover style epic bachelorette weekend, but you

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Speaker 2: can just host a slower, soothing wellness centered weekend where

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Speaker 2: you and your bridal party just get to relax. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with this.

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Speaker 1: That sounds great, right, Invite me to get a foot massage,

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Speaker 1: Invite me to the South of France. Sure, I'm saying

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Speaker 1: yes to all of those things.

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Speaker 2: Guided meditation, Yeah, group, sound bath.

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Speaker 1: I'm in all the woo woo. Let's light some candles

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Speaker 1: and say are prayer together.

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Speaker 2: So I have a theory that age is a really

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Speaker 2: in my mid thirties, I think it's just harder and

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Speaker 2: harder to go to a bachelorette party.

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Speaker 1: It's really hard to take the time off work. And

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Speaker 1: I think the expense has gotten so out of control.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to take the time off of work. I'm

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Hi.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: Are we allowed to call you Bubby?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely an honor.

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Speaker 1: How does it feel to be the internet's bubby? That's

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Speaker 2: What do you think it is that was drawing people

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Speaker 1: Tell me about this, because so I don't have kids yet.

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Speaker 2: meet your baby and hold your baby for the first time.

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Speaker 2: You just don't know which ways up, which ways down.

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Speaker 2: And I think to impose on a new mother and

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Speaker 2: say like, we got to come by and see the

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Speaker 2: baby when they're two weeks old or three weeks old,

444
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Speaker 2: or even a week old, it's just too much. Like

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Speaker 2: so my advice to all mothers out there, new moms,

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Speaker 2: like you tell people when it's okay for them to come.

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Speaker 4: Well, I agree completely, but what you're really saying. The

448
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Speaker 4: message there, this is really important for all new moms

449
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Speaker 4: is set limits. Yes, And I found and I think

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Speaker 4: that new parents have the right to set whatever limit

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Speaker 4: they want. They don't have to explain it, they don't

452
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Speaker 4: have to just defy it. They can set their limits

453
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Speaker 4: and quite honestly, if someone doesn't respect it, then you

454
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Speaker 4: don't have to have them in your house.

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Speaker 2: I want to give Bubby a standing ovation. That is

456
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Speaker 2: such important advice because you can you can be consumed

457
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Speaker 2: by this guilt of like, oh, I've got to oblige.

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Speaker 2: I've got a people, please, I've got to let people

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Speaker 2: come over and see. The baby doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: It's all about you, Okay, And that is absolutely key.

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Speaker 1: Bubby, talk to me about gentle parenting. It's a term

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Speaker 1: that I've heard over the last few years, getting an Irol.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into everyone listening. We're getting an eyrol Bubby

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Speaker 2: as my people. I can tell by her reaction to

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Speaker 2: everything that we have talked about today.

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Speaker 1: I just want to I want to give like a

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Speaker 1: little background on this. So my parents were not gentle parents.

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Speaker 1: They were very much throw you into the fire. I

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Speaker 1: think at multiple points my father said to me, nobody

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Speaker 1: cares about your feelings.

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Speaker 3: What are the facts?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so he was not a gentle parent. I'm really sensitive.

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Speaker 1: I think I might have done well with a little

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Speaker 1: more gentle parenting. And I can't figure out what the

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Speaker 1: balance is.

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Speaker 2: What's your take?

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Speaker 3: Here's my issue with this.

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Speaker 4: Gentle parenting is really that you don't raise your voice

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Speaker 4: to your child.

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Speaker 3: You certainly never raise a.

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Speaker 4: Hand to your child, and you try to talk to

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Speaker 4: your child about what's going on and their feelings and

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Speaker 4: working it out.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: I think that's all well and good in theory, but

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Speaker 4: a two year old that's upset and throwing a temper

487
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Speaker 4: tantrum is not in any position to sit there and

488
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Speaker 4: have an intellectual discussion about what their feelings are.

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Speaker 3: So you have to take some of.

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Speaker 4: The good parts of gentle parenting, but applied them appropriately.

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Speaker 4: So if you have a child, a two year old

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Speaker 4: who's having an absolute meltdown, let them melt down. They

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Speaker 4: have to get those feelings out, and then maybe after

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Speaker 4: they've calmed down, you can sit there and say, I

495
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Speaker 4: know you were really upset, and that's why you know

496
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Speaker 4: you were crying. You tell mommy what upset you and

497
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Speaker 4: then try to talk about Well, maybe a better way

498
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Speaker 4: to handle this would be if you had told mommy

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Speaker 4: that you really wanted another cookie or whatever it was.

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Speaker 4: But to do it in the heat of the moment

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Speaker 4: is not going to work. A two year old is

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Speaker 4: not going to be able to navigate that and have

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Speaker 4: a full discussion on it.

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Speaker 2: And also to try to do it whenever you're out

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Speaker 2: in public and your kid is having a meltdown or

506
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Speaker 2: causing a scene, I mean, it's just impossible. You've got

507
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Speaker 2: to do what you've got to do in that moment. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: I totally agree with you said not raising a hand

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Speaker 2: to your child, and I also think a lot of

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Speaker 2: this is dependent on the child. If you have a

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Speaker 2: spicy child, gentle parenting is not going to work on

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Speaker 2: that child. I think gentle parenting works well for gentle kids.

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Speaker 2: But I think there are a lot of great things

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Speaker 2: that have come out of it. I think all the

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Speaker 2: intentionality around helping your kids become better communicators, helping them

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Speaker 2: talk about their big feelings, that's great.

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Speaker 3: You know, there is a.

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Speaker 4: Lot to be said about that. Not that I think

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Speaker 4: you need to toughend kids up, but you know, as

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Speaker 4: a baby boomer parent, every kid was a winner, every

521
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Speaker 4: kid got a trophy. I think we get we did

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Speaker 4: a great disservice to our kids, and in fact, studies

523
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Speaker 4: have shown that kids that have to do chores, kids

524
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Speaker 4: that don't always get what they want, kids that have

525
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Speaker 4: to work for something end up being much happier adults.

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Speaker 4: I think you certainly want to respect your children's feelings.

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Speaker 4: You always want to address that, and you want to

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Speaker 4: do what you can to help your children understand. You

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Speaker 4: know how to navigate the world. But I think giving

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Speaker 4: into every whim is absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: The way to do it.

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Speaker 2: We have to help our kids adjust to the idea

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Speaker 2: of failure and get comfortable with failure because I think

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Speaker 2: failure is the only way to grow. You have to

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Speaker 2: grow confidence.

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Speaker 3: I think that's absolutely true.

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Speaker 4: There's always been these different theories on how to do it,

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Speaker 4: but the end result is really what you said. Kids

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Speaker 4: have to learn failure. That's how they grow, and that's

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Speaker 4: how they get motivated to succeed the next time. And

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Speaker 4: I think every kid is a winner just doesn't work

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Speaker 4: in the long run.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a bar, really is Bubby. You are filled

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Speaker 2: with endless amounts of wisdom. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: sharing some of it with us today. On the bright side, well,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: Bubby is a pediatrician turn content creator and she's on

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Speaker 2: Instagram and TikTok as. Ask Bubby all.

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Speaker 1: Right, bright side Besties, Grandma's give out some of the

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Speaker 1: best advice of anybody that we know. So we're going

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Speaker 1: to be doing a monthly advice segment with our very

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Speaker 1: favorite grandmas.

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Speaker 2: If you have a.

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Speaker 1: Question or a conundrum or an amazing, Grandma. Hit us up,

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Speaker 1: send us a voice memo or an email at Hello

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Speaker 1: at the bright Side podcast dot com.

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Speaker 2: We're back, Danielle. All that parenting advice got me thinking,

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Speaker 2: I need to know more about how you grew up.

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Speaker 2: I want to know about how you grew up too. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I have an idea. Let's play a little this or

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00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: that game so we can both get to know each

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Speaker 2: other better in our upbringing styles. Okay, first question, did

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Speaker 2: you have a curfew growing up? Or were you allowed

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Speaker 2: to come and go as you pleased.

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Speaker 1: I think I had a curfew that was like midnight

567
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Speaker 1: in high school and then if I came home after

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Speaker 1: I just had to let them know because my dad

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Speaker 1: could not go to bed until my brother and I

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Speaker 1: were in our beds, locked in the house.

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Speaker 2: All he had anxiety about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he was big on safety. I think

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Speaker 1: he was just nervous.

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Speaker 2: Not your mom. Your mom wasn't that way.

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Speaker 1: My mom passes out. She probably did care about safety

576
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Speaker 1: but was too tired.

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Speaker 2: My poor mom is the exact way your dad was.

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00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 2: Could not sleep unless I was in the house in

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Speaker 2: my bed And wait, did you have a curfew? Though

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Speaker 2: I did have a curfew. I think it was like

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Speaker 2: eleven or something. Yeah, definitely curfew. I mean, can't imagine

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Speaker 2: a world in which a parent doesn't have a curfew

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Speaker 2: for their kids, right.

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Speaker 1: I had some friends who didn't have curfews, but I

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Speaker 1: don't know if.

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Speaker 3: That ended up.

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Speaker 2: Well, where where are they now? Where are they now? Okay, allowance?

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Speaker 1: Did you get a regular allowance or were you working

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Speaker 1: a part time job to hustle up some extra cash.

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Speaker 2: I think I got an allowance up until the point

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Speaker 2: when I actually could get a part time job, and

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Speaker 2: then I started working my first job. Danielle, Yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: not going to believe this. This is wait, I want to

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Speaker 2: guess this is stranger than fiction. What I was a

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Speaker 2: I worked at a haunted corn maze in Memphis, Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: A haunted corn maize. Yeah. It was a seasonal gig,

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Speaker 2: and I worked in the concessions during daylight hours, but

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Speaker 2: then when night fell, I dressed up as a zombie

599
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Speaker 2: cheerleader and had to scare people out of a garbage can.

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Speaker 2: At least you had a cute costume.

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Speaker 1: Zombie cheerleader is probably the best out of all the

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Speaker 1: options there.

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Speaker 2: I get corn maze, it built character.

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Speaker 1: My high school job was I was a dancer for

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Speaker 1: bar and bought Mitzvah's for birthday parties. Get out, I

606
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Speaker 1: got the crowd going. My friend was the DJ, and

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Speaker 1: so he would hire like three of our friends and

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Speaker 1: we were dancers.

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Speaker 2: Do you still know any of the dances? Uh?

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Speaker 1: No, they weren't like line dances. It's audio, so this

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00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: is hard to explain. But they were just more like

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Speaker 1: getting the crowd going, like pumping your fists.

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Speaker 2: Okay, books are boys, Danielle. Did your parents stress education

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Speaker 2: over dating or were you allowed to explore your options?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not gonna be boring, but I'm going to

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Speaker 1: say both. Okay, my parents really valued education, still do.

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Speaker 1: My grandmother was a teacher, my grandfather was a professor

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Speaker 1: and a principal.

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Speaker 2: Education was huge in our house.

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Speaker 1: But my mom was always telling me to like go

621
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Speaker 1: out and date, and she would she is like more

622
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Speaker 1: fun than me, you know, So she was like.

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Speaker 2: Go go be in high school, go live your life.

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Speaker 1: But she wanted all the tea and I was always

625
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Speaker 1: so private, I'd never tell her anything.

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Speaker 2: I hit all my boyfriends, so I didn't date at

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Speaker 2: all in high school. You weren't allowed or want to.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't that I wasn't allowed, but I grew up

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Speaker 2: in such a sheltered, conservative Christian house that my parents

630
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Speaker 2: barely even talk to me about sex and relationships. So

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Speaker 2: it was just a topic that didn't ever really come up.

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Speaker 2: And also I moved around so much that I was

633
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Speaker 2: like so awkward, and I was like really tall and

634
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Speaker 2: gangly andlinky and awkward, that I just it never really happened,

635
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: never really dating, never really happened for me. So but

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Speaker 2: education has always been such a huge priority in my family,

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Speaker 2: going back several generations. So I'm grateful for that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I learned from my mom keeps talking about

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Speaker 1: the story that you told about your grandmother.

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Speaker 2: It's very clear that you.

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Speaker 1: Come from a long line of really smart, thoughtful people.

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Speaker 2: Thank you you too. Birthday bashes or birthday blues.

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Speaker 1: Were you always having a big blowout birthday as a

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Speaker 1: kid with all your friends or did you want something

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Speaker 1: small and kind of you know, or did you want

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Speaker 1: something small?

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Speaker 2: I had some really fun, big blowout birthdays as a kid,

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Speaker 2: And actually, you know what's funny when I think about

649
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: the themes and the activities that I made my friends

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Speaker 2: do I still do this to this day. Like, one

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Speaker 2: of my fondest memories is this shaving cream fight birthday

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Speaker 2: that I had with all my friends. So fun. It

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Speaker 2: was so fun, and now I still love making my

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Speaker 2: friends do like field day games and sloppy games. Danielle,

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Speaker 2: you seem like you would just love that. I was

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Speaker 2: gonna say, please, don't invite me to your birthday. I'll

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Speaker 2: take you for dinner.

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Speaker 1: I felt really actually lucky. I'm not a huge birthday

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Speaker 1: person now, but when I was a kid, my mom

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Speaker 1: always I grew up in Chicago, and almost all my

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Speaker 1: family was in Chicago, and so we would do a

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Speaker 1: friends party and then a family party. And so the

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Speaker 1: family parties were my favorite because like grandparents, cousins, uncles, aunts,

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Speaker 1: everyone was together and I just felt like so loved,

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Speaker 1: and so that's where I.

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Speaker 2: Felt most comfortable. That's so sweet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really special. I didn't realize till later

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Speaker 1: how special that was.

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Speaker 2: Where do our birthdays go wrong? It seems like a

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Speaker 2: lot of us bring birthday baggage into adulthood. But she

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Speaker 2: did do a whole episode on birthday baggage. I would

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Speaker 2: love to dig into it. Let's dive in I like

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Speaker 2: that word birthday baggage. It's true Fiji or rated R.

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Speaker 2: Did your parents heavily monitor what you watched on TV?

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Speaker 2: Or could you press play on anything you wanted?

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Speaker 1: My mom says that she made two errors as a mother.

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Speaker 1: She said she didn't really teach us how to cook,

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Speaker 1: which she regrets. And she took me to see Romey

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Speaker 1: and Michelle's high school reunion when I was in kindergarten,

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Speaker 1: and she looked around in kindergarten, yes, and she looked

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Speaker 1: around and she was like, everyone here is much older.

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Speaker 1: But I begged her for like for months. All I

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Speaker 1: wanted to see was that movie.

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Speaker 2: You begged your mother when you were in kindergarten. Yes,

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Speaker 2: how is it even on your radar?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. All of my friends were third children.

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Speaker 1: I was the only firstborn, and so I think they

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Speaker 1: were all like more ahead of the curve. Okay, And no,

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Speaker 1: they let me. I watched Sopranos, I watched Sex in

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Speaker 1: the City. I would like beg them to stay up

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Speaker 1: and watch things.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you did not have black mom. That's I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: say about that. Your mom was super strict. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I couldn't read Harry Potter. You're kidding, could not read

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Speaker 2: Harry Potter. It was witchcraft. This is incredible. This is

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Speaker 2: a thing. Though. If you other people, they will come

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Speaker 2: out of the woodwork when I'm talking about this. They

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Speaker 2: will tell you this.

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Speaker 1: So when did you start, because you're very pop culturally fluent,

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Speaker 1: when did you start watching things?

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Speaker 2: It's it's really funny because my mom was an actor,

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Speaker 2: so she knows the benefit of the arts and of

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Speaker 2: creative expression, but she still came from such a conservative

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Speaker 2: background that she felt the need to be really strict

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Speaker 2: about what I watched or what I took in. It

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Speaker 2: was more religious than anything.

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Speaker 1: In hindsight, Do you think any of it was valid? Like,

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Speaker 1: do you think it was good that you were sheltered

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Speaker 1: a bit?

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Speaker 2: Not really? I mean I think you should. I think

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Speaker 2: you should spare your kids from certain things that are

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Speaker 2: like too sexually revealing or too mature for them. You

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Speaker 2: don't want them having questions about things that they shouldn't

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Speaker 2: have to question yet. But whatever, I turned out all right?

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Speaker 2: You did.

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Speaker 1: Also, it's kind of interesting because in Europe, like they

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Speaker 1: sensor violence more and in America we censor like sexual

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Speaker 1: stuff more. And I always think that it's interesting in

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Speaker 1: terms of what we value or think is you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the funny thing. Because I would go

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Speaker 2: to at home, I wasn't allowed to read Harry Potter,

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Speaker 2: but then we would go to a friend's house from

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Speaker 2: our church and they'd have Brave Heart on, you know,

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Speaker 2: and it was extremely violent, but of course you can

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Speaker 2: make an exception for that because of the themes in it.

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Speaker 1: I guess I actually haven't thought about so much of

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Speaker 1: this stuff in years.

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Speaker 2: This was kind of interesting, you know, it really was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for the therapy session producers.

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Speaker 2: Yes, our producers did a great job. I had to

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Speaker 2: dig deep into the memory banks for this one. I

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Speaker 2: keep thinking about Bubby's second act, Danielle, and how she

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Speaker 2: became this TikTok star when she least expected it, and

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Speaker 2: that makes me think of one of my favorite mantras,

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Speaker 2: and that is it's never too late. It's powerful. It

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Speaker 2: really is.

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Speaker 1: It's a short sentence and it's powerful. After forty two years,

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Speaker 1: she made the pivot. She was a pediatrician turned TikTok star,

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Speaker 1: and it's really inspiring.

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Speaker 2: There's no expiration date on second acts. Ooh, I like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we got to end on that. That's

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Speaker 1: it for today's show, thanks to our partners at Airbnb.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow talking about the new Apple TV

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Speaker 1: film Girls State, which documents the summer program where young

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Speaker 1: women create a mock government. We're joined by co director

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Speaker 1: Amanda McBain and one of the Girls State participants, future

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Speaker 1: leader Emily Worthmore.

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Speaker 2: Voice at Simone Voice and.

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