1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,640 Speaker 1: Well, that's a lot of the guys said, they're like, 2 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: you're going viral. I was like, what does that mean? 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: You were going viral for things you had been doing 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: for years. It is my pleasure to be welcomed here 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: on the Colts Show by Colt's owner and CEO carly Ers. 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: Gordon carly We're here at the NFL owners meetings at 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: the Biltmore and Phoenix. I'm curious is you've kind of 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: gone around here, You've talked to people, You've just been 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: in this space. Have you reflected on the legacy your dad, 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: mister Ursay left on the league. Of other people came 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: up to you and said, like, you know, you know, 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: talk to you about your dad, about the legacy he 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: left on this great league. 14 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: That's a very full question we're starting. I've got I 15 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: love it. I've got lots of answers. I mean, it's 16 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: definitely a bittersweet, but I know one of the best 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: things is is you guys here at our staff dinner. 18 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: I think we're exactly where he would want us to be, 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: which would be carrying the torch forward. And you know 20 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: he's always talked about, you know, being a steward of 21 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: a franchise and it's just like in our game, it's 22 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: like the next man up or woman in this case. 23 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: But I think that certainly being here in Arizona at 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: the Biltmore, I mean the Breakers and Paul Meach is 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: another one where it's just loaded with not even just 26 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: memories of what he was doing in our business, but 27 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, growing up in this business, being the oldest, 28 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: just all the all the memories that we have as 29 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: a family coming here over spring break and during those meetings, 30 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: and I think my dad, you know, of course, owners 31 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: here they love that he spoke his mind. Sometimes maybe 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: a little too much, some people might say, but I 33 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: think he always That's one thing that I've always respected 34 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: about him and a lot of other ownership is that 35 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: he had a different perspective and he wasn't afraid to 36 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: share it. And I think that that's really important, especially 37 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: just being a consortium of thirty two different clubs. I 38 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: think it's really important to have those different perspectives. And 39 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: my dad even being you know, we lost him too 40 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: early at sixty five, but it's even funny for me 41 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: being forty five and that I've been coming to these 42 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: meetings for almost twenty five years and I know I'm 43 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: probably close to one of the youngest people in the room. 44 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: But what's so interesting is I've been coming to those 45 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: meetings for a lot longer than a lot of people 46 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: in the room. And I think a lot of that 47 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: thanks to my dad, because he, like I said, at 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: a young age, I remember being in undergrad and going 49 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: to my first meeting and he just like, sit and 50 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: listen and you just soak everything up like a sponge 51 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: and see how things work, and it's it's just very 52 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: It's a big honor I think to be here, you know, 53 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: carrying forward my dad's legacy. 54 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: That's great. When you look at this team, let's talk 55 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: about kind of the twenty twenty six Colts. Here. We're 56 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: kind of through the heavy part free agency. Obviously, there's 57 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: still a lot more to go with the draft, and 58 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: you know, Chris says the you know, cement's not dry 59 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: and a roster you know well into the season. But 60 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: what excites you about the opportunity this team has in 61 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. 62 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: So I think getting Daniel and Alec situated, I think 63 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: that was and the timing of it, I think, you know, 64 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: Chris did a great job getting that and staff getting 65 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: those deals done so that we could kind of then 66 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: pivot to free agency and you know, work with our 67 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: budget because obviously those are big chunks that came out 68 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: of it. But then also the rookie class last year. 69 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Tyler, you know, he I knew he 70 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: was going to be amazing, but I still think he 71 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: exceeded expectations. But then we've got other guys like Hunter Woller, 72 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: Justin Walley coming back, Traders coming back. I mean, it's 73 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: I think it's that part is because it's heartbreaking for guys, 74 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: especially their rookie year. You know, those first few years 75 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: for their development are it's so important, and you always 76 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: feel bad for guys like that because you know they 77 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: don't want to fall behind and miss, you know, miss 78 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: the opportunity to develop. But I think they've they've taken 79 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: it in stride and they've they've actually I don't know 80 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: if they would have become friends or not, but I 81 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: feel like they're like best buddies now because they were 82 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: like the two gimpy Gamberson's, you know, to buy. I mean, 83 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: it's hard to be it's hard to be part of 84 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: a team when you're injured. It's always it's I think 85 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: it's hard to still feel like you're a part of 86 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: things and you're not contributing. So I'm excited for them, 87 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: and obviously people like darden Key, I think he'll be 88 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: a great contributor. And then, you know, the most exciting 89 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: part is seeing what young talented people we get in 90 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: this year's draft. 91 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: For the continuity between Chris Ballard Chanstyken and Daniel Jones. 92 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: That being in place, now, how do you envision that 93 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: trio kind of growing and build holding on the success 94 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 2: that they had over the first half of last season 95 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: together now in twenty twenty six. 96 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: So I think with Chris and Shane obviously, I think 97 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: one of the biggest pieces I always say is, you know, 98 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: we did a regression analysis a long time ago about 99 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, what is sort of the I don't want 100 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: to call it the kiss of death for where a 101 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: general manager and a head coach don't succeed. And one 102 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,799 Speaker 1: of the things that we found is when you simultaneously 103 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: hire them, and when you think about it, it makes total sense. 104 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: So imagine hiring one person has to do this another 105 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: person and you just are like, I hope you get along, 106 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: you know, versus I think that, you know, Chris with 107 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: his tenure with us, I think it was we were 108 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: able to go out when we found Shane and really 109 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: make sure that we had someone that complimented Chris's style, 110 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: and I think I think they have a great relationship. 111 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: I love working with them. But then I think with 112 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: Daniel too. I mean, I think some of the things 113 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: that he went through with other teams and really finding 114 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: that right chemistry with Shane and Shane being excited and 115 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: believing in Daniel's potential and his ability to kind of 116 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: take his first part of his career and really kind 117 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: of take it to the next level. And it's really 118 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, it stinks that what happened with his injury, 119 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,559 Speaker 1: but I think he's ready to hit the ball running. 120 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: He's hit the ground running and just continue to build 121 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: on the success that he had with for the first 122 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: half of the season. 123 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're so connected with you know, the 124 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: team and with the coaching staff and the players. Was 125 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: there something that you noticed about like Shane and Daniel 126 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: maybe if it wasn't right away, maybe like early in 127 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 2: the season of like, oh, these two guys like really 128 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: see it the same way and they've got that relationship 129 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: you need between a quarterback and a coach. 130 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: Well, I mean one of the things and everyone no Shane, 131 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: which I love his weirdness. It's like, you know he 132 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: going is off and he's like, ohh, I mean this 133 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: guy is like and off the charts, Like I sent 134 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: him like this install and come in and he's like, 135 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, he's already like gone through all of them. 136 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: He's like, what else I needed? What else do you 137 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: have for me to go through? And he's like okay. 138 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: I mean he's like, this is just exactly what I've 139 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: been looking for. Just even little throughout the week, you know, 140 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: he'd have these little ideas. He'd come in and say, oh, 141 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: I just want to make this little tweak here my footwork, 142 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh yeah, okay. I mean I think 143 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: just I think Daniel is an amazing student of the game. 144 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: And like I've said before, I mean, if you're saying, okay, 145 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: like on a scale of zero to ten, ten being 146 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: like the most obsessed person with football in the world, 147 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Shane would. 148 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: Be a ten. 149 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: And he just lives, eats, breathes football all the time. 150 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: Like I was saying, he's one of the only which 151 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: as I know that watches college games on the bus 152 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: to our game, like, like, did you watch the Missouri game? 153 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, I didn't, but I did. 154 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: They probably lost. Yeah, that's some busy grind. You've told 155 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: me in the past that you prefer to say you 156 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: like work with people that like people don't work for you, 157 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: that you're you describe yourself as kind of like a 158 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: horizontal leader with you know, retaining Chris and Shane and 159 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: kind of supporting them in this like how have you 160 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: led horizontally with them to support them in kind of 161 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: the charge that's been given to replicate the success of 162 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: the first ten games the last season and then kind 163 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: of fix some of the issues that led to the 164 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: seven game downfall, Like how have you supported them in 165 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,119 Speaker 2: those those instances. 166 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: So I think it goes back to when you first 167 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: started off in your career or your kind of entry level. 168 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: I think you do so a lot of time listening 169 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: and observing and honestly going towards people that you admire 170 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: and you think they're doing a really good job at 171 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: whatever you're aspiring to do. And so I think with 172 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: Chris and Shane, I think I'm still very much a 173 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: student of the game. I feel like on a good day, 174 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: I might have like fifth grade reading level because I 175 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: can't just watch table day and do everything. And that's 176 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: okay because that's their job. But I think that having 177 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: having that the trust and kind of being in being 178 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: with them long enough and just even the meetings, being 179 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: able to ask questions and debate things and not always agree. 180 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: But then I think when we leave a lot of times, 181 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: I think that's the benefit is a GM versus the 182 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: head coach versuon owner, We're all going to have different perspectives, 183 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: We're all going to have different lenses that we're looking, 184 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, through, and I think that's where I think 185 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: that's where that kind of comes down to teamwork right 186 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: and making sure ultimately that we're aligned. But I think 187 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: part of it is the working with people is really 188 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: important because we're a football team, and you know, I 189 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: think you could say it's not that you know leaders. 190 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: You have to know who the leaders are. But I 191 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: also think what's really important is being able to build 192 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: a culture where good ideas can come from anyone, from anywhere. 193 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: And I think that's part of like when people say, 194 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: you know, with diversity, like why is diversity important. It's 195 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: important because your experience, whether if you're a woman or 196 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: your minority, your socioeconomic background, where you came from in 197 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: your career. It's the cognitive diversity that I think is 198 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: so important. And ultimately, I think when people have that 199 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: mutual respect and they're not thinking like, oh, you know, 200 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: well I'm not you know, a manager level, but I 201 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: have this idea or I have this thought about I mean, 202 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: even across our business, even in ticketing, it's like we 203 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: should have a culture where not to be, you know, disagree, 204 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: just to disagree and ruffle people's feathers, but you should 205 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: be able to, Like, I think people want to feel 206 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: like they're contributing, and why can't it. I mean, I 207 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: think it would be really not productive and not a 208 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: good use of our staff if people didn't feel like 209 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: they could just bring ideas, more thoughts about things. 210 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: I'm curious you brought up. But like you're sort of 211 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: like a like a fifth grade level. I think I 212 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: would I would frame that as like you're at a 213 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: really high level compared to where Chris and Shane are 214 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: in terms of their football knowledge. Like I always view 215 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: my job as like I'm never going to be close 216 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: to their knowledge, like if you're at a fifth grade level, 217 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: I'm in like pre K, but like it's knowing, but 218 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: it's it's knowing what like the right questions to ask 219 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 2: as an owner? Do you view that as kind of 220 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: like one of the more important tasks that you have. 221 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: It's just like knowing the right questions to ask to 222 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 2: create that discourse to then all come together for an answer. 223 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: Because yes, because you have to have I would say, 224 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: a basic vocabulary right around. I think I'm going back 225 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: sixteen to eighteen years ago when it's like first you 226 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: learn the personnel groupings, then you learn you know the 227 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: different route concepts than you I. 228 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: Mean there's different start eleven. 229 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: There's just different or even you know, looking at defense 230 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: and understanding the different types of coverages and eventually getting 231 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: you know, there's cover two, cover three, and then you 232 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: get into the cover five. Is something I can just 233 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: still it's it looks like cover three or three match 234 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: to me sometimes, but sometimes two players will also be like, 235 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: don't worry about it. It's like it's still the rule 236 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: is still this. It's like okay, well, I think like 237 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: a quarterback probably needs to know that. But I think 238 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: it's about having I think, starting with the basic vocabulary 239 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: so that you can at least like I know I've 240 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: said this before, but you need to be able to 241 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: tell when you're interviewing someone because people can say a 242 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: bunch of buzzwords, but how like they could memorize all 243 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: these things. But then how is it an action? Like 244 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: how is it when it's applied? Because ultimately what it 245 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: is is you could have the most amazing schemes and 246 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: an install thing, but like a if it's too many 247 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: plays in an installed a week and the players are like, wow, 248 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: this is a lot different than what we also install Mota's, 249 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: it's like, well, if we don't have time to actually 250 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: practice it and inculcated into the system and be ready 251 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: for it, then sometimes it has to be that balance 252 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: of like, Okay, this is an idea that we should 253 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: maybe we should have looked at this in training camp, 254 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: you know, versus I think that's the key is it's easy, 255 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: especially often sometimes the whole paralysis by analysis where because 256 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: you get to attack, so it's kind of like you 257 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: can over scheme sometimes. But again, like I think I'm 258 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: just there generally to see how the you can tell 259 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: when the system is being stressed in a certain way. 260 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, last off season I went through like a phase. 261 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: I spent like a week just like watching YouTube videos 262 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: on Protections because I was like, this is something I 263 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: don't know enough about. It's yeah, I was like, oh 264 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: my god. 265 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: They're like off as the line where like the rocket 266 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: science serious level of and just even like the angle 267 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: of their foot in a past progression. 268 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: I mean it's tiny little details. What's something you've like 269 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: dug into maybe over the last couple of months or 270 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: even the last year or so, just of like, you know, hey, 271 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: this is something I really want to dig into, like 272 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: football wise, just to kind of grow with. And you know, 273 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: you have access to meeting rooms you can go in 274 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: and you can talk to lou An Arumo or Brian 275 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: Mason or Jimbob you know, Shane whoever. What's like one 276 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: of those things that you've kind of just been like, 277 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: I really want to learn more about this. And then 278 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: you went and like did. 279 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: It that's funny? You said, definitely Protections. I need to 280 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: do that again. And I also think we're really fortunate 281 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: because coach Tony is probably one of the most He's 282 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: a great teacher, but he makes things funny, like he 283 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: has like we have this ooz principle where it's like 284 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: it's almost like this combo where you shift, but it's 285 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: like it's called ooze because it's like, ooh, you slow, 286 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: you don't, you don't like shift as fast as like 287 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: another play. But it'll be like when you're watching tape 288 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: with them and like and now week or he'll you know, 289 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: like there's certain like certain thick plays with Quinney's like 290 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: look at that. He has all these sound effects that 291 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: actually makes it very entertaining and fun to learn because 292 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: it's you spent a long, long hours in there. And 293 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: then I would say, you know, obviously like special teams 294 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: because you know, we've changed some of the rules, but 295 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: continuing to look at look at that as special teams, 296 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: how we coach it, and even just how we utilize 297 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: personnel in certain weeks when guys have to come in 298 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: and out, and just getting a better understanding of that. 299 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: I feel like that's always an area like I enjoy 300 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: learning because it's it's hard to be a special teams coordinator, 301 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: especially when you get into the season and you know, 302 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: sometimes you won't find out you know, it's like we 303 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: had one time where it's like why we only have 304 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: so many guys that feel like how many other guys 305 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: like someone got hurt and someone forgot to tell them 306 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: and then they didn't do the substitution. So I mean, 307 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: it's a there's a lot of coordination for them and 308 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: kind of thinking of okay, and if if this happens, 309 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: then what if the you know what I mean, there's 310 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: a lot of scenarios they have to run through, so 311 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: that's definitely another area. And then just continuing obviously like 312 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback, just continuing to see how they just from 313 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: their footwork to the progressions to me are so fascinating 314 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: because like to me, I'm also like, okay, if it's 315 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: like this is one, two three progression a lot. Frank 316 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: would say, like you kind of think about it like 317 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: a triangle, and I'm like, I remember telling Matt Ryan. 318 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: I was like, but that doesn't look like a triangle 319 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: and he's like, well, I mean generally it's kind of 320 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: like a it's just it's just yeah, And then I 321 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: would say TCU coverage is another one you should research 322 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: because that one's most quarterbacks will tell you it's the 323 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: bay in the ass. 324 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 2: This is great because I'm glad you've said like I 325 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: should should research because the only reason why I asked 326 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: that question is because I was like, I need stuff 327 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: for me to research. So I was like, I know, 328 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna pick Carly's brain of like what 329 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 2: have you been looking up? Because you know what you're 330 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: looking for? And now great, Now I have like three things. 331 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: Rush angles Rushing that's one. I just I it doesn't 332 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 2: hit my brain. 333 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: But I think it's also this is where this is 334 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: where kind of the magic of coaching and working synergistically 335 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: with the player because like Tom Ala, like Jalen tom Lamu, 336 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: which I'm gonna go on record as his mom told me, 337 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: because everyone calls him JT. But his name isn't JT. Okay, 338 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: it's actually Jalen. So it was kind of a funny thing. 339 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: But everyone keeps calling him JT. And I'm like, do 340 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: you want to correct them? He's like, I mean, they've 341 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: just been calling me this for so long. I'm just 342 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: gonna like let it go. It's kind of like Bobby 343 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: okarag Yeah, when he went I mean everyone's calling him 344 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: okriky for like, and I said, why are you saying anything? 345 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: It's like you know I didn't want to, So what 346 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: was the way? 347 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 2: What was the question we were talking about in it 348 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: was more of just like thank you for giving me 349 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: things to look up and go go research. I want 350 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: to do something fun here. So, like last year you 351 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: were kind of the recipient of quite a bit of 352 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: attention on social media. You're kind of like a social 353 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: media star last year. 354 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that's what I've heard. 355 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I imagine. I know you don't have a Twitter account. 356 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: I have one, but it's like in stasis, it's incased 357 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: in bose sight. 358 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 2: But like, did your kids come to you or like, 359 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 2: did people come to you and be like, like, look 360 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 2: at this, Like you're you're going viral for some of 361 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: the things, but you were going viral for things you 362 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 2: had been doing for years. 363 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: All right, well that's a lot of the guys said, 364 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: they're like, you're going viral. I was like, what does 365 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: that mean? Yeah, Taekwan and Grove They're like, no, I'm serious, 366 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: And I don't know. I mean, it's one of those 367 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: things where my biggest, my biggest concern is always like 368 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: I don't want to be a distraction of the guys, 369 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: And that was one of the things I asked, you know, 370 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: I still have a lot to learn down here, and 371 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, why they none of them? They're like, 372 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: why would you be a distraction? They're like, this is 373 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: what you've always done. So I don't know. I think 374 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: that's one of those things that's interesting where all of 375 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: a sudden, I feel like, in a lot of ways, 376 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm doing the same job I did before, but for 377 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: whatever reason, you know, I think when your title changes, right, 378 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: you know, I guess the buck does stop with me. 379 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: So I mean the TV cameras focus over to you 380 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: a little bit more, which then leads to if you 381 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: don't mind, I have a couple of print outs here, 382 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 2: it leads to certain reactions. So let's start with this one, 383 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 2: which we're gonna splash up on the screen on YouTube 384 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 2: if you're if you're listening to the know that these 385 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: are just some screenshots that we pulled out. So do 386 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: you remember this one? 387 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: Yes? I heard about this one. 388 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: What's going on there? 389 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: So I was charting and a play was called I 390 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: believe it was third Down, and I thought I had 391 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: a pretty good poker face, but I probably need to 392 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: keep working on that. So I guess I did have 393 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: a little bit of an opinion about the play that 394 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: was called and my eyebrows showed my fai. But you 395 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: never know like that. We were in other games where 396 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well that worked, but it was kind 397 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: of like one of those things where I was like, hmm, 398 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how this is going to play out. 399 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: But like when you have those opinions like you're not 400 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 2: then going to Shane or even like on that you're 401 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: not talking on the headset and being like what are 402 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: you doing? Like you you aren't like articulating that in 403 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 2: the moment, it's. 404 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: No, absolutely not, But then it's like on Monday, I 405 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: think you're and I think here's the thing that's You're 406 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: bringing up a good point. And it's part of what 407 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier, where when I think you 408 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: have a healthy system where you observe something and it's 409 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: sort of out of in a classical sense of maybe 410 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: the way that you would be progressing through down in 411 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: distance and where you are and what you're supposed to 412 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: do and what the analytics people tell you to do. 413 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: I think one of the things that Shane does really 414 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: well is I would chart this and then say, hey, 415 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, what was it? Thinking here, not like how 416 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: dare you do that? How dare you. 417 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: Run the ball on curiosity not chudge? 418 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, and his his. I think the part where you 419 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: can kind of go is this red flag is when 420 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: if someone can't explain to you why they tried something 421 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: different that's out of the ordinary, then that's a little 422 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: bit like what were you really thinking? Were you're just 423 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: being impulsive or just feeling desperate, like you had no 424 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: freaking clue what to do, and you're just like, I'm 425 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: just gonna throw this out there and see if it 426 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: sticks versus I think the best thing about Shane is 427 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: he's like, well, we had looked at this scheme me, 428 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: it's this team, and I was thinking ahead to the 429 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: next thing, and I just thought, okay, this had worked 430 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: with some other obscure game, and I just figured we'd 431 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: in a couple other series we'd done something different, and 432 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: I didn't want them to think, Okay, now they know 433 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do, and so that's why I tried this. 434 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: And I was like, that makes notal sense. But sometimes 435 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Sometimes you have to try 436 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: new ideas and they don't always work. And sometimes you 437 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: try a new idea and you're like wow, I mean. 438 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I got another one here. This is 439 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: This was a fun one. This wasn't from a TV broadcast, 440 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: but this is from the Coltspar in Berlin. 441 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: So with this one, I think I got to give 442 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: kudos to my dad because I think that was I 443 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: was there with Pete order Coo and I think, you know, 444 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: when you're in Germany and Berlin and you were there, 445 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: and I think part of the fun is going to 446 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: going to a bar and meeting different fans, beeting fans 447 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: from Germany, and you know, it's kind of like to me, 448 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: it just seemed like a culturally appropriate thing to do 449 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: would be to buy everyone there a round of drinks 450 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: for showing up to our event. And those are like 451 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: the little things I feel like, my what my dad 452 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: would always do, because I feel like it's, you know, 453 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: just everyone's having fun. And I think the event that 454 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: we hosted. 455 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 2: There it was amazing. 456 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: It was amazing, just the fervor and the energy and 457 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: the passion of all the fans from Berlin. So it 458 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: just seemed very appropriate to buy the round of drinks. 459 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: But don't ask me to say it in German again, because. 460 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: I won't yeah, well you practiced in German before you 461 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 2: got in stage with me, and I was just like, 462 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: that is going out in front of a bunch of 463 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: people and speaking in German, a lot of whom speak German. 464 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: That was that was impressive. That's very impressive. All right, 465 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 2: one more here. This is kind of the this is 466 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: the classic one, the last one. It's for our listeners. 467 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: It's your your arms are raised up in the air 468 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: signaling a touchdown. I think that was from week one. 469 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was from week one. 470 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: Was what was going on there? 471 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: So I think, like I said, I'm trying. I think 472 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: my poker face looks pretty good there. But I think, honestly, 473 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: part of the fun of our game is it's emotional, 474 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: and I try to I always like to take Gilly 475 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: stuff on Gilmore's. His secret to success was always like, 476 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: don't get too high, don't get too low. So it 477 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: just seemed like, Okay, this is a way to sort 478 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: of silently celebrate without you know, going crazy. But honestly 479 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: just kind of like like it was almost like a 480 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: just a reaction that happened. And I like, honestly, and 481 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: until someone showed me this, I didn't even realize that 482 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: I had done that. 483 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 2: That's great. Yeah, all right, I got one more and 484 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: it's the same pose, but it is Coldswide receiver Coleman 485 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: Owen dressed up as you for the Colts Halloween party. 486 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: I mean he looks better than me in my opinion, 487 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: and his kudos to Coleman's wife, because I mean he 488 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: had the wig, he had the same, I mean, the 489 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: glasses looked similar. I mean it was and I don't 490 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: even know where he would find a dress with like 491 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: if you're like ripped here, I'm like, how did he even? 492 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: Where did he find? Where did she find a dress 493 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: that would fit a professional athlete? 494 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: It's it's it's that I'm going to have to have 495 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: him on the podcast and get to the bond by 496 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 2: that too. 497 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: No, I mean he had everything down, like even to 498 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: the hat, like he said, the hat, the glasses, and 499 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: the the address with buttons and then like this white 500 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: little dicky thing. I don't even know. It was amazing. 501 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: I mean there were like kids dressed up as you 502 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: for Halloween too, not just like your own players, but 503 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: like kids walking around. I saw a couple come to 504 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: my house trick or treating you did. 505 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, honestly, That was one of the things 506 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: that really made because, as Chris will say, I'm like, 507 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm more of a stoic, non emotional person, but that 508 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: really resonated with me because the fact that little girls 509 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: are dressing up like me was kind of it was 510 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: kind of blown away. Honestly, I don't know why they 511 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: would be doing that, but it definitely it was definitely like, Wow, 512 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: I can't that's kind of amazing. 513 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: Needless to say, they got extra candy at the stink 514 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: of his household. 515 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: What they did. 516 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, take as much as you want, 517 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: this is great. One showed up like this is a 518 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. We showed up into Kevin the 519 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 2: Tumbo jersey, and I just like could take everything. It's 520 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 2: an incredible, incredible thing, all right, Which brings me to 521 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: the last thing we're gonna do, because I just remembered 522 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: a guide to Kevin Btumbo. One of my favorite things 523 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: to do, Carly is play the Immaculate grid. Have you 524 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 2: ever seen these before? 525 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: Now? 526 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 2: So it is I did this with Daniel Jones, So 527 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 2: listeners of the pod veeers of the pod, No, I 528 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 2: did this with. 529 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: Dj So she's probably way better than me. 530 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: Well, so Daniel. Daniel used one of our categories was 531 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: Duke played in March Madness, and he used his brother 532 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: Bates Jones, which was like, I was like, that's amazing. 533 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: He was like that probably like point one percent and 534 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 2: people would have used Bates Jones. But the goal of 535 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: this is you can't use the same player twice, and 536 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: you need to you know, kind of like it's just 537 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 2: a great opportunity to remember some players. You know, your 538 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: favorite players, favorite Colts, favorite guys from around the NFL. 539 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 2: So let's start with the first one. There a player 540 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: who played for the Colts and a player who played 541 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 2: for the U University of Miami. 542 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: So that one is that was definitely an easy one. 543 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: Reggie Reggie Wayne. 544 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 2: There are a lot of guys who could go there, 545 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 2: but Reggie Wayne's a good on there. Now, you do 546 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 2: have played for the played for Miami and had a 547 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: thousand yard receiving season. You already used Reggie Wayne. You 548 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: can't use them again, so you can. 549 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: Use another person that played dress I'll be too briefly, 550 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: Andre Johnson. 551 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: That's right, you had that one year with the Colts. 552 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 2: That's great. Hall of Famer. 553 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: Reggie's roommate in college. 554 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 2: Ed Reid for that would be Hall of Famer play for. 555 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: Miami, and he has amazing straw hats. 556 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: I mean, Reggie and Ed Reid's roommates. 557 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: Is like, can you imagine them as roommates. 558 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: That's insane. I mean the should two hall two should 559 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: be Hall of Famers there one right now obviously, but 560 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: hopefully Reggie gets in soon because those Miami teams are stacked. 561 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: All right, let's move down to the next row. Well, yeah, 562 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: not against you. Did you go to that? 563 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: That was so fun? I saw it was so crazy. 564 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: A fan in front of us, and actually he's like 565 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: a partner I think at Ice Miller, so he's like 566 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: probably I don't know, in his early fifties. But he 567 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: was so moved that he ripped off the seat in 568 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: the stadium and took it home with him. And I 569 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: was just thinking, you know, and then just people like 570 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: I said, how many years you would know this? But 571 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: I know it's decades. How many years? Was people from 572 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: my U, I mean the alumni base and just like 573 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: adult men just crying, sobbing, openly sobbing and hugging each other. Yeah, 574 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: it was just it was such an incredible that's amazing 575 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: game to be therefore, it was amazing. 576 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: All right. So the next one is played for the 577 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: Colts and played for the team that your family initially bought, 578 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 2: which is the Rams, and then was promptly traded for 579 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: the Colts in the first and only trade of franchises 580 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: in American professional sports history. 581 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: I would assume my grandpa used to say it got 582 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: decided in a poker game. Not sure if that's true, 583 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: but he was good at telling lots of tall tales 584 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: and someone you just never knew why that's true in 585 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: which one wasn't. So I will go with Eric Dickerson. 586 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: A great football player in the Colts Ring of Honor, 587 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: and that was That was one of the big trades 588 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: your dad executed when he started off as GM was 589 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: trading for Eric Dickerson, very excited about it, made the playoffs, 590 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 2: first playoff appearance with the Colts. There. Next one up 591 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 2: would be played for the Rams and had a thousand 592 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: yard receiving season. It's kind of testing your football history 593 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: knowledge here. 594 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: So I'm going to go with Isaac Bruce. 595 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: Isaac Bruce, good player, the greatest show on turf. Rams. 596 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: Those were Those are like my Those are like my 597 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 2: formative years watching football. Really yeah, those are like the 598 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: coolest teams ever. 599 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: I was like, I'll just never forget Jerome Bettis on 600 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: the earlier and then being on the field before the 601 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: game and just seeing like going and standing next to 602 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: him because I remember what I was working more in 603 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: scouting too. It's like same thing with like von Miller 604 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: because you watch von Miller on TV and it's like 605 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: he doesn't really look that big, and I remember when 606 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,719 Speaker 1: I were scouts at the time. I was like, just 607 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: go stand by him and see if you still feel 608 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: that way, and I was like, he's actually really big. Yeah, 609 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm taking that deforce. 610 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: Buckner's like that. We're like buck Is. Buck's a big guy, 611 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 2: but like when he's got his pads on and walking 612 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: by your leg well, and. 613 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: Like the joke is I was joking them his hands 614 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: are dinner plates because you know, dinner plate is eleven inches, 615 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: so it's like his hand is the size of a 616 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: dinner plate. 617 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 2: I believe Lara Overton once referred to his hands as 618 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: being dinner plates on a previous Colts podcast, So shout 619 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: out to Lara. Yeah, it's accurate, it's true. The last 620 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: one here played for the Rams, and is in the 621 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame. 622 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: One of the greatest underdogs. 623 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: Kurt Warner, great great quarterback that I mean that night 624 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 2: that the was at the ninety nine Rams team. 625 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like, this was an amazing story too. 626 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, stocking shelves. 627 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: It was a great at bagging groceries and throwing the ball. 628 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: Those are two skills I'm not very good at all. Right, Then, 629 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: last one here is played for the Colts and at 630 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: a thousand yard rushing season for the Colts. 631 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: Joseph Die when Joseph. 632 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that you you could There are a 633 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 2: lot of options there, Frank Gore, Jonathan Tab, Marlon Mack 634 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 2: in recent years. And then this is a tough one. 635 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: So a thousand yard rushing season and in the same 636 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 2: season also had a thousand receiving yards. There are only 637 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 2: three players who've done it in NFL history. 638 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: That is an amazing feat. But this one, I would say, 639 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: is it's easy because he's just a freaking athlete. Christian McCaffrey. 640 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: Yes, he's the most recent one to do it. Marshall 641 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: Fulk and Roger Craig are the other two. 642 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: What did Roger Craig play? 643 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: He would have been what in the eight eighties, Roger Craig, 644 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: Steve Campbell's nodding his head. That's good because I was like, 645 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 2: I think it was a little before mind. But hall 646 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: of Famer this year, that's amazing. He'll be a part 647 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: of that class as well. With that minitary And then 648 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,239 Speaker 2: the last one there is a thousand rushing guards and 649 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. So there's 650 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 2: literally any running back we don't. 651 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: Have to go with. One of my favorite ones. Then 652 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,719 Speaker 1: Edrin James. 653 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 2: Is he is he like one of the coolest colts 654 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: to ever come through our organization. 655 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: Well, yes, I'll never forget too, because it's like I 656 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: remember my dad saying, he grew up like like. 657 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 3: His workout routine, it's absurd like, but then in the 658 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: summers he's just like in this like fuck because my 659 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 3: dad hated anything hot, Like he would like to go 660 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 3: outside like where we are in zone and now, but 661 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 3: then he'd have to come in. 662 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: And you know the hilarious story. My sisters will all 663 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: agree that our windows, like when we were growing up 664 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: in the summer would be like fogged up because he 665 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: would turn it down to like fifty five degrees and 666 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: my mom actually like had one of the contractors set 667 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: it so that he could like turn it down to 668 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: like he'd turn it down to like forty two, and 669 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,479 Speaker 1: it was but it was like governored, so it would 670 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: just really only go down to like sixty three. But 671 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: he'd be but he was so like he said, Edrance, 672 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 1: a shit, he just like out picking watermelons, and I'd 673 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: be like, I mean that probably would put. I can't 674 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: even like watermelons are huge. I can't imagine like farming 675 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: watermelons by hand. 676 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 2: All right, Well, that's a great job on that grit 677 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 2: Carly like excellent ball knowledge on it. 678 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm not as good as Daniel, I'm sure, though. 679 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: Daniel Daniel was really good. 680 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: He was. 681 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 2: Pete Ward would win probably the company wide challenge for this, 682 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: but that's just because he is more cults knowledge than 683 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 2: probably any human on the planet. 684 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: He's a walking in cyclist. John Scott, I retired quiment manager, 685 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: would also Yeah, he's very good at Jersey numbers. You 686 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: can remember so many. 687 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. I can do that for like I do the grid, 688 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 2: but I can do it with like white Sox players, 689 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 2: which is a completely useless skill for anyone except me. 690 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 2: When I do the baseball one, and then it just 691 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: turns into like, who am I doing this for other 692 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 2: than like Harber, that guy that was great. That's hilarious, 693 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 2: just sitting here remembering guys. All right, Carly or Gordon, 694 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 2: thank you for the time here on the podcast. Really 695 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 2: appreciate it, and uh, we look forward to the next 696 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,760 Speaker 2: one of the next owner's meetings.