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Han't wait. Live 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:43.680 from our studios inside Galette Stadium. Here's Hardy slipping and 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:46.160 slide and he was like a captain pop up bag. 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.560 And that's it. From Fox Burrow, where the Patriots dropped 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.840 their home opener to the Ravens, game number three on 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:59.200 the season, thirty seven, twenty six. The final is we 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.360 get ready to go here at Gillette Stadium, Hardy, Mike 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:05.440 do So, Paul Pirello. Patriots Postgame Show Join US eight 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:09.760 five five Pats five hundred, email Web radio at Patriots 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.280 dot Com. Start with you, Paul, your initial thoughts coming 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.600 on out of this game here today. Yeah, I mean, 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.200 I thought it was a winnable game. I thought the 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:22.320 Patriots did some nice things offensively, especially early on. I 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:26.040 thought getting the ball downfield was certainly part of the 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.479 game plan. DeVante Parker by far and away the best 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:31.520 he's looked all summer. I'm not even talking about just 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.560 the two games. The best he's looked, you know, as 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:38.800 a Patriot practice or no. But just too many mistakes, 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.160 too many turnovers. You can't turn the ball over against 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:44.440 a team like the Ravens. And we've talked a lot 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.240 about run defense, Mike. I don't want to take up 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.720 every point in my opening monologue here, but we talked 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.760 about run defense being a huge part of it. The 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.120 run defense still has some work to do. Yeah, I mean, 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:55.600 I liked how they came out. I mean, I thought 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:57.560 that they competed pretty well on both sides of the ball. 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:59.560 It looked like, man, they're you know, moving the ball, 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.840 placed a Parker a couple three and Outce Dietrich wise 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:06.000 looked unblockable early on in the game, and then they 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:07.920 just kind of started the run us team. I mean, 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.600 I like some of their fight. They you know, fought back. 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.000 I thought at the end of the first half they 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:13.799 could have kind of folded up. They still manage to 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:15.799 get a field goal there in response. I'd really like that, 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:17.519 you know, even at the end they fell into the 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:20.080 eleven point hole and they still you know, put together 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:22.640 some some drives to get down there and make it interestinct. 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:26.600 But you know, the mistakes, the mistakes, the mistakes, the interceptions, 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.400 the Nelson agil or fumble, it's just not enough. And 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.320 as you said, Paul Lamar Jackson's just too talented. You know, 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.720 he was the best guy on the field, and they 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:36.720 stopped him a few times, but they did not stop 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.160 him enough, and everybody else kind of got going eventually 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:41.519 as well. For the sake of not sounding repetitive in 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.360 the post game, I think when we start with our 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:48.639 good list here, let's just haven't understood up through about 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.160 half of the game, because I think that's what this 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.519 game was, you know, up through beyond, you know, just 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:55.640 beyond a halftime, Patriots looked pretty good and there were 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.160 a lot of good things to talk about. Not so 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.480 much after that. So again we so we don't have 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:03.760 to keep saying it over and over and over again. 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.440 It wasn't quite a tailor two halves, but it was 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:08.320 a team that looked good, as you said, Paul, a 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.639 winnable game that they got a little sloppy, they got 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.919 out executed on a few plays, and yeah, you ran 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:18.919 into Lamar Jackson who ran his way to a victory tonight. 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.640 It wasn't passing. Um, I mean he did complete some passes. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.200 It was both. I mean he completed four touchdowns. Yeah, 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:28.960 but for two hundred eighteen yards. Oh yeah, I always 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.680 I mean nine times. Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it's 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:33.880 not like he was setting the world on fire by 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.960 completing a lot of I thought. The troubling thing here 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:38.520 and we'll we'll get to it when he set it up, 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:43.600 is I think that the defense, I think a lot. 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:45.400 There's gonna be a lot of harping on the turnovers, 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:47.080 and rightly so, I mean they don't turn the ball over. 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:48.640 They would have had a really good chance to win 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.320 this game today. Um, so that's huge the turnout. You 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.320 can't four right, uh, I mean ended up being four 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.360 three picks and a fumble. Yeah, So that's the that's 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:03.040 the story, and I'm not trying to sugarcoat that, but 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:07.600 I think that the defense looked to have made some strides. 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:11.000 You know, there was some some promising points. I thought 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:14.240 in the first couple of games, not so much today. 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.640 I thought Baltimore did what it wanted to do offensively, 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:18.800 and I thought they could run it. I thought they 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:20.640 threw it when they wanted to throw it. They got 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.200 it to their best guy, Mark Andrews, which is something 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:27.120 that you always say Patriots, never let that happen. It happened. 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.640 So yeah, this, I think there was a lot of 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.840 breakdowns today, but the top of the list hard. He's right, 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.520 it's it's the turnovers. I mean, like, you can't have 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:39.200 four turnovers. All right, let's let's let's get into a 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.320 good bad injured. Here we go. Now it's time for 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:50.200 the good, pretty good per the bad who in the injured? 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:56.720 Ah ah, you are right, gay, good, the bad the 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:58.680 injured brought to buy the good players the bad players, 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:00.400 and one of the injured players not to bury the 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:04.520 lead here, Mac Jones hopping off the field on one leg, 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.040 taken directly to the locker room before the game was over. 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:09.720 So we'll certainly keep an eye on that. We'll keep 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:11.800 an eye on this Buffalo Miami game, which is coming 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.240 down to the final seconds. The Bill's trailing by two. 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:16.760 They've got a third and ten coming up, but just 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.360 a few yards outside of field goal range. So we 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:22.360 got but only eighteen seconds left, which means you have 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.440 to get out of bounds if you don't get the 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:28.280 first down. So that's gonna be a difficult situation. But 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.839 you know, we've we'll move on to rid zone Paul later. Yeah, 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:35.000 I've seen sicker dogs in that lab. Well what I 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:36.599 like that? You know you don't like that? All right, 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:40.320 start with a good iduce. I'm gonna mister positivity. I'm 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.640 gonna take the layoup with Vante Parker. Five catches, one 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.080 hundred fifty six yards, consistent throughout. I mean, had a 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.640 couple early on, also had some of the second half, 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:50.560 so he was you know, he was exciting. I didn't 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.120 I didn't really expect that out of him in terms 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.240 of just the you know, the middle of the field 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.560 kind of production overall. So really nice day for him. 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:01.000 You know, Unfortunately it's gonna get over shadow. But Agalore 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:02.719 last week having one hundred yard day, him having one 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.360 hundred yards today, um that that's definitely a big, a 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.880 big positive coming out of this one. And they failed 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:10.600 to get out of bounds there, right, and they're not 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.640 going to have time because they're not gonna be able 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:17.400 to spike it. No, that's the game. I think the 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:22.000 Dolphins remain undefeated. Unbelievable. Dolphins pick up a win at 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:27.839 home over the Bills twenty one nineteen and uh there 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.000 we go three and oz on this season and the 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:35.200 Bills are handed their first loss. Hmmm. Very interesting. Also, 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:37.560 the Lions, who had jumped out to an early lead, 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:42.120 now trail at Minnesota twenty eight, twenty four. Paul just 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:43.680 turned to me and said, Hardy's going to be happy? 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:45.920 What was that? What was that talk? Parilla? Well, well, 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.960 they had a ten point lead, the Lions said. Wait, 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.640 say Lions got the ball there at midfield? How much times? 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:55.360 Don't worry about a guy? All right, guy, listen, I'm 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.280 lost this way before many times. What are you worried 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:01.720 about for? It's like my standard line when you know, 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.320 just barely in the rough, you know, after my t shot, 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.880 I'm like that I can make six from here, No worries. Yeah, 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.080 what is the first time I ever played out of 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.960 the rough. Yeah, don't worry. Yeah, that's I can still 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.320 make double from one hundred and fifty out just off 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.480 the fairway. Don't you worry about that. Um. From the 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:21.040 very first reception of the game, it's like Parker interesting, 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.680 you know, big catch, looked like he was maybe a 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.440 poised for something today. It didn't mean anything, but it 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.080 certainly ended up meaning something as they went to him 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.600 time and time again. And one of the interceptions was, 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:35.920 of course, you know, a throw to Parker in the 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:39.040 end zone there in the fourth quarter. Not I mean, 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.120 it was a bad throw and Mac needs to play better. 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.880 But as we will get to later on in the 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:46.760 bad list, it was the play calling leading up to 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:48.520 it that I just you know, oh yeah, we'll get it. 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.160 We'll get to that, we'll get to all that. I 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:54.160 guess it's just I got some festive his grievings to uh, 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.240 the grievances. But DeVante Parker first on the good list 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.200 I co signed. I'm sure Paul does too. Paul, what's 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.680 your first good Uh, let's see, I'm gonna go Dietrich Wise. 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.560 Did I miss that? I have him? Sometimes when I'm 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.640 buried in red zone, I miss things no, I have 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:10.600 him as my second good Also, yeah, I didn't know 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:11.960 if anybody had already said it. And I know we 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.720 had three sacks, and you know, sometimes those are kind 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.360 of circumstantial, like you know, they had a couple of 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.440 sacks today that were really kind of runs that would 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.720 stopped for no game. But Dietrich Wise made a couple 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:27.160 of plays on the run that were amazing. Um. Sorry, 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:32.320 hardy Um. I thought, I think he has been arguably 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.520 the Patriots best defensive player in the first three weeks 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:38.040 of the season. Is that? Is that an overstatement? Mike? Sorry, 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.400 said I think? Sorry, yeah, I mean I've done in 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.040 a million times. I take no offense. I think Dietrich 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.560 Wise might might have been the Patriots best defensive player 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:47.719 in the three weeks. But I mean it's just the 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.080 humulative year fact. When do you see that a six 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.960 year player that I texted Andy today because we used 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:54.920 to argue, you know, guys don't make the fifty year jump, 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:57.840 made the sixty year is I mean, honestly, I wish 0:08:57.840 --> 0:08:59.400 he'd made the fourth quarter job. You know, they could 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.079 have used some of that playmaking later in the game. 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:03.079 You know, that was my only rub with it. Was that. 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.760 You know, it's just you come out like Gangbusters. You're 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:07.760 you're getting pressure on the march Jackson, You're in his face. 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.320 I mean, you probably could add a couple more sacks. Um, 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.120 you know, if you're able to finish him off. Of course, 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:13.880 he's just so fast. It's hard to it's hard to 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.720 really fault anybody on that one. But you're right, Dietrich wise, 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.200 you know, continue to have a strong start, but but again, 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.319 love to see some finish out of the defense. Um, 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.679 I am going to pick from my first UM pick 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:32.079 Mike that I miss he had DeVante Parker. So you 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:35.719 didn't do one yet, ahead, Uncle Jonathan Jones, yep, good 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:39.280 one okay, um interception interception and and and the strip 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.679 for his fumble whatever. It was one of the day, okay, 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:44.960 I mean start, one of the few players who actually 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.440 kind of like started strong and had a pretty strong 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:49.440 compition at the end. It's weird. I don't have him 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.160 bought about the pick. Yeah, yeah, it's like Jonathan Jone. 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.280 What Jonathan, Because I saw him, I got a position 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:56.559 a little bit. But no, you guys are right that 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.360 he's a good he's a good pick. I mean two 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:02.559 huge turnovers caused. Yep, there's another obvious defensive player that 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:04.880 I had to buy one to get to Jonathan Jones first. 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.480 Just I don't know, because I think it bears mentioning 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:09.520 that he actually finished the game kind of strong too. 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:13.040 Here you go, all right, I'm gonna do Romandre one 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.200 of his better games, twelve for once for seventy three, 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.760 one one seventy three. Um. You know a couple of 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:19.280 real nice runs for him. I just you know, I've 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:20.880 I've heard a couple of pause comments when he was 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.559 carrying the ball, and I agree he's got some. He's 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.880 just more exploded. I mean, I love Damian Harris as 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:27.599 as a player. I think he gives you everything. I 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.520 think Stevenson is more explosive. Yeah, I think he makes 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.880 guys miss in like in tight quarters. He makes you 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.400 miss now a couple of times today one maybe one 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:39.200 too many bounces was definitely one of those. Um. But yeah, 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:41.200 I agree with you. I had him on my list too. 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:43.240 I think you agree with that one harder you co 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.719 sign on Romandre Stevenson. I didn't have him down, but 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.240 now that I think back on it, yes I will. 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:51.160 I will put Romandre Stevenson I don't. I certainly didn't 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:54.760 see anything from that I would say was bad. Um see, yeah, 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.559 i'd like to I'd like to be able to say 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.440 more about him. I didn't have him, so I wasn't 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:04.360 thinking along those lines. Okay, that's my failing, not Romandres. 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:06.120 I want that. I want it clear that I'm not. 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.320 I'm not saying it's on Romandre. It's on me, all right, 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:13.320 everybody knows. I agree. I just want everyone at all. 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:17.240 They ain't gonna have no trouble from me. I cheat you, 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.120 Frankie pantantially, thank you, thank you. I got not just 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:26.480 yelling out. I got that, but he got Paul I have. 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.760 I have Matthew Judon. That was the one I stepped. 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.319 And now here's the hit, Like there's a problem that 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.679 I could completely get this. If someone's gonna sit there 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.840 and say, these guys just went out and get up 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.959 thirty eight point thirty seven points to the Ravens and 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.560 all the goods are on defense. I thought Matthew Judon 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:45.480 in this game allowed them to get off to a 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.160 good start. You know, the only way they were going 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.440 to win this game is if they dictated the way 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:52.520 it was played and they got out in front. Unfortunately 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:56.040 it never really materialized, but they made some plays in 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.360 this game. And I think Judon in particular was really 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:03.080 good with his his discipline and when he rushed Jackson 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.400 and got him, you know, scrambling around, Jackson was thrown 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:09.439 it away because I think he knew Judon can get me. 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:11.280 He can he can get me to the ground, whereas 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.480 some of these other guys, I can run away by time, 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:15.920 they're not gonna catch me. So I thought Judon was 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:17.959 really good in this especially in the first half. In 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:19.559 the early part of the game. I thought he was 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.200 solid that one too. I think near the fourth quarter 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.880 where he had Lamar kind of retreating and I think 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:26.120 you said at the time, he's one of the only 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:27.760 guys that can you know, kind of have the athleticism 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.319 to keep him in, you know exactly the playoff was 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:31.840 that was you know that And again I would put 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:33.760 him kind of in the category with Wise where it 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:35.640 was like gangbusters out at the beginning and then a 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:37.439 little quiet towards the end. But he did have that 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:38.959 play down the end. But there was that play in 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.520 the fourth and you know, Paul said discipline, There was 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.520 a play in the first, when the Ravens round a 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.280 third and fifteen, you know, deep in their own end, 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:51.200 and uh, Judon pulled up on his on his rush 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:56.079 and started, oh boy, anyway, we're looking at watching Mac 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.480 Jones limp off the field, hop off the field. Actually, 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:01.320 I've got I've got a a DM in here from 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.760 somebody of just a screenshot of Mac going off the field, 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.319 and he looks, I mean, as you can see on 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.160 the video, he looks in pain, but he looks like 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:09.760 he's in a lot of him it looks like his 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:13.640 left Yeah, like I kind of rolled up. I don't know, Well, 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.080 well we'll get in see it. It just rolled up, 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.280 you know, briefly, but who knows. Anyway, Judan had the 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.400 discipline to kind of stay back, pull off on the 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.959 rush and just spy Lamar and just keep him from 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.520 moving outside and as you said, contain and force him 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.559 into what was essentially a throwaway in that third and fifteen. 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:35.400 So yeah, I had him down early, Matthew, Jodan definitely 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:38.640 on the good list. Yeah, that's that's about all I got. 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.120 I feel like I had I had Mac on there initially. 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.480 Um and and that was you know, kind of before 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:45.400 things fell part at the end. So I'm not going 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:47.080 to put him a Mac on the good list today. 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:51.480 Oh yeah, no, Max. I mean I thought Mac did 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.079 a lot of nice things in this game, and he 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:55.839 had that one drive where he almost single handedly kept 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:57.600 him in the game. But too many mistakes from Mac 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:01.640 to put him on the good list. His numbers are 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:03.679 gonna look abysmal. I don't think he played as bad 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:05.360 as the numbers will in the game. He's gonna have 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.160 no touchdowns in three picks and that's gonna look like, 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.880 oh my god, Yeah, he played better than that. I 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:11.439 got I got one more. I'm gonna put Paul and 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.480 Hardy on the LST first. The Jacobe Myers conversation in 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.400 the pregame show, Okay, we can move on. Wow. You 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.880 know it's funny because it's one of those things that 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.400 this you know, I always make this this argument, and 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.440 Megan O'Brien used to make fun of me about it 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.440 all the time. It's why I don't gamble. That's why 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.560 I don't bet, because when I think things are going 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:35.440 to go a certain way and they go that way 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:37.400 and you still lose the bet, and it's like I 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.320 knew what was going to happen. You know, well, this 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:44.880 is one I saw something going the way it was 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.360 gonna go, and and that what I saw was Kendrick 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.480 Bourne being forced to be integrated, and that was going 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.320 to kind of push Parker to the back burner a 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:56.560 little bit. When Jacobe Myers went down, the complete opposite happens. Now. 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:58.720 To Mike's point, the offense was I mean, they scored 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:00.880 twenty six points. If I told you before the game 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:02.640 they're gonna score at twenty six, I think you'd say, 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:04.600 I can't really ask him for much more than that. 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:07.240 That's a pretty good total. Yeah, but it ain't the 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:09.320 way I said it was going to happen. So I 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.680 might have been right, but I weren't really right. Fair enough, 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:15.120 fair enough, Um, look at that. It's a lot of bees, 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.560 a lot of bees on the goalpost there. That's not good. 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:23.320 No report, that would seem to be problematic. Like if Lamar, 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.120 if that was Lamar Jackson, he'd be in danger. He 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.440 was in the end zone a lot. That was my 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.680 fantasy that was trending on Twitter earlier. There's a lot 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:36.480 of buzz about it. Honey, you're a card, Honey, do 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:38.880 you have anything else? Oh, honey, that was a good 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.680 good following you thank Do you have anything else? Nick 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:45.360 Folk too for doing his field goals? By the way, 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.960 how about fifty yard the fifty yarder? And was it 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:49.560 at the end of the first quarter where they let 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:51.200 time expiring and then they said we're going to kick 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:55.200 it down on the north end. There's something I don't 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.120 think that they did it intentionally. No, no, no, no, no, 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.720 not thrown off by it because we're watching it. Were like, 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.200 you know, at that north end is gonna play differently 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:05.320 now they got it. That was a chip shot though 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.400 the other one, the fifth I'm giving you more credit 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.040 than you'll give it. But the fifty yard went into 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.800 the open end, okay? And did he miss the first 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:15.720 one before the time out? It looked like it looked 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.800 like he did. I don't know. But the fifty he 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:20.920 hit the fifty yard or into the open end of 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.520 the last play of the first half. So I wanted 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:25.800 to talk about that as another element of good before 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:27.640 we move on to the bad. Unless you guys have 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.880 more stuff. No after Nick Folk, um, I would say 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.360 the and Fred Kirsch was all over this when it 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:37.200 happened live the double score. You know, I thought the 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:39.880 execution at the end of the first half was excellent. 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:43.760 Yea couple of couple of crossing routes. Um, you get 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.120 in the thirty seconds you move about. I don't know, 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.440 let's see, you moved forty three yards and thirty seconds. 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:51.880 You get a field goal, you get the h the 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.640 possession to start the second half, double score, touchdown, you 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:58.200 took your lead. And uh, I thought that was a 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.920 big like sort of a big juncture with the game. 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.120 That's where the Patriots had a chance. We'll get to 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.720 the bad afterwards. But uh yeah, Freddie, Freddie said a 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:08.399 Patriots football right there. I go, what do you mean? 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.199 He goes double score? I was like, yeah, you're right, 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:12.200 it's just chamming real quick here. What a shame it 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.080 is to drop a game like you did today, as 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.320 there appears to be a tremendous amount of parody in 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.720 the league, Chiefs falling to the Colts, Bills losing to 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:25.200 the Dolphins past home to win, about winnable game and 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.080 it you know, and as for as close as it was, 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.560 it didn't end up being that close. And like, oh, 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:32.960 that's a real shame because team you had, you thought 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.119 you had to beat to make the playoffs Vegas his 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.680 own three. Yeah, this is you know, this is kind 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.520 of opening up this early on in this NFL season 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:42.280 where it's like, hey, it's kind of up for grabs. 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.080 Anybody who can win. You got a shot and you 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.040 couldn't get a win today. Hi Fred, Hi, Hi Hardy? 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.840 Before we before we forget Hardy needs a new parking pass. 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.200 Like it's the giving him a hard time. They can't 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.359 get in. Okay, I don't know who he is. Oh 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.359 I can. I can hear the much what he has. 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:01.040 That's what he has to do. Turn on the radio. 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:02.879 I'm on three different he has to tell people who 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:05.560 he is and he throws that card around. I'm getting 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:12.760 over here me eight point five. But when some are 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.640 some of these scores, though, are we are we? Who 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.199 are we concerned with? Like with the square? Like, who 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.040 do you think is going to win the acast? Dude? 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:23.679 Right now, I'm just worried about Max. I'm just I'm 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.200 talking about in a vacuum, big pitcher. I think people 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:29.560 are looking at and saying, Buffalo lost. We blew it up. Yeah, 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.320 but Miami's the team you're probably fighting for a wild 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:35.119 card with Buffalo is probably gonna win the division unless 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.040 these injuries that they're getting just continue when Josh Allen's 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:40.320 next and he's out for the year two like Micah Hyde, 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:44.399 if if, if they're relatively standing up, they're gonna win 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.680 the division. So Miami is now two o in the 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:52.480 division with wins over Buffalo and you that's huge. Indianapolis 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.159 beating Kansas City, that's another one huge. Careful who you 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.720 root for, right, You're not really root You're not really 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:01.040 fighting Kansas City for a playoffs any Indie, right, And 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:03.800 I don't think India is any great shakes, but it 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.040 just shows that, you know, good teams can be beaten. 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:07.760 Can you be one of those teams to beat a 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:12.440 good team? And you got very wea extremely early through 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.639 three weeks to be telling you who's gonna win the division, 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.360 who's gonna be the wild card. But right now, conventional 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:19.680 wisdom would suggest Kansas City is probably more of a 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:22.280 division team and the Buffalo Bills are more of a 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:26.320 division team than Indie in Miami gotcha um just in 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:28.239 time for the bad Liz Fred, you want to lead 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:33.240 us off, you know what, and you know what, there's 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:34.399 a lot to get to and we don't want to 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:37.679 pile on for an entire hour. We'll just go chronologically. 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:41.560 What was the first thing? Had a couple penalties. Yeah, 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:43.480 that's a good one to start with. You don't like 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:47.840 to see that. No, two early penalties. Um. I believe 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:52.280 he was referred to as a drive killer by one 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:56.000 of the voices on the first The first one absolutely like, 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:58.760 you had a nice little play to Parker to get 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.520 yourself going, and then you get like a second in 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:05.399 eight or so and he gets an illegal formation penalty 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:07.879 on a play that resulted in a first down, wipes 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:10.920 that play out, sets up second in thirteen. You ultimately 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:12.840 get sacked on third down and have to punt. Yep, 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:16.040 that's a drive killer. Pre snap penalties. Four more of 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.600 them today. It's brain farts with him. Well, you know, sorry, 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.880 two penalties one time out to avoid a delay again. Yeah, 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:23.880 but brain farts with him. That's you know, I thought 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:26.240 overall he plays okay, like I thought Mac had protection, 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:27.800 pretty good protection most of the day. But it's the 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:30.639 same kind of thing. It's these like momentary lapses in 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:33.600 mental processing that they're you know, and those were two 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:35.440 drives where they had big plays to Parker. It felt 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:36.800 like you had a little momentum and then all of 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:39.200 a sudden you get backed up and they couldn't even 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:41.439 you know, convert a first down after getting backed up 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:44.320 off those two penalties. So yeah, not a good start, 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:46.280 but you know, but see, But the thing about that, 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:50.359 though that happens so early, so much transpired after that, 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:54.320 you know where the Patriots had plenty of chances after 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:56.200 that to win this year. I'm not saying that he's 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:58.320 the reason why they lost, but in terms of bad, 0:20:58.520 --> 0:20:59.960 it was bad. I'll tell you. I'll tell you the 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.600 first bad I have just chronologically, the muffed punt. I mean, 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:05.120 what are we doing? Yeah again, another one that doesn't 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:07.240 hurt you, but you can It doesn't hurt, but you 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:09.760 can't have it. And now you're holding your breath every 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:11.960 time it's supposed to be a good thing. You should 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:14.560 be celebrating the fact that you forced the other team 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:17.040 into a punch, and instead, you know, I'm on pins 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:20.440 and needles. I think. I think mac epitomized the game. 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:23.760 As many good plays as he made, he made bad plays. 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:26.320 And it's the same with the Patriots. As many good 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:28.919 plays as they made, they made bad plays. And by 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:31.480 the way. So did the Ravens until they broke it 0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:35.359 away late. Both teams were making mistakes. Oh yeah, you know, 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:38.880 both teams were you know, what's your what's your first 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:45.600 bad Paul? Oh boy? Uh? Well, I thought that the uh, 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:49.320 there was some we talked about the the discipline needed 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:52.160 to contain the edges. I thought there was some instances. 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:56.280 Uh mac Wilson struggled with some of that discipline early. 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:59.280 I thought josh Uche had a play that he comes in, 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:01.560 thought he had Lamar dead to right, it's never even 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:03.200 got a hand on him. Fred almost fell off his 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:06.080 chair on the play. What he goes? What does josh 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:08.240 Uche doing? Sorry? Because that okay if I say things 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:11.280 like yeah, no, I listen, that's fine. I thought there 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:14.959 was some discipline breakdowns defensively, and that certainly helped him 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:18.040 roll their way to to thirty second point. He dive 0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:20.560 at Lamar Jackson from two yards away. You're not gonna 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:23.119 get him. No, don't leave your feet. They are not 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:26.040 gonna get him. No, No, what do you got, Douce? 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:29.160 I got Miles Bryant, you know, a number another muff 0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:32.120 and also you know, gave up the touchdown there near 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:34.600 the end, so, you know, just tough for him. I mean, 0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:36.480 it's hard to point out individual guys. At this point. 0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:38.440 I just felt overall, like, you know, the defense just 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:40.400 kind of folded down the end and you know, didn't 0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:43.000 quite have the I would say, you know, it's almost 0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:44.720 like to Fred's point, it felt like they switched off. 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:46.680 Like the defense would get a stop and you're like, okay, 0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:49.359 they're playing good, and then they threw an interception, you know, 0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:51.560 and then the defense would give up a long drive. 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:54.400 It's just, you know, not really complimentary football. I don't 0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:56.000 want to pick on Miles Bryant, but I thought, you know, 0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:58.040 a couple of plays and the muff punts that stuff. 0:22:58.080 --> 0:22:59.960 I don't know why he's continuing to get chances. I 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:02.280 feel like it's just a matter of time before Marcus Jones, 0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:04.399 you just put my guy back there. Yeah. Yeah. And 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:07.040 they did miss Kyle Dugger today. I thought, I thought, 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:08.840 you know, some of the runs that popped free in 0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:11.600 the secondary. I think he's a pretty good tackler and 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:14.159 he's fast enough that he's not going to necessarily let 0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:16.959 Lamar Jackson run away from him. So as many injuries 0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:18.480 as the Ravens had, and I think they lost like 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:20.840 ten guys during the game. It was unbelievable. But the 0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:23.919 Kyle Dugger injury was I think problematic for the Patriots. 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:27.359 Second Ellen maybe you know, I'm not sure. I'm sure, gotcha, 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:31.359 wasn't one hundred percent, you know, But you know, another 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:34.920 bad the big run by Lamar Jackson late. I think 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:36.680 it was like a forty one yard run or something 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:40.320 like that. Bentley comes up to the line pretending he's 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:43.240 gonna blitz and does this dance and gets himself so 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:46.320 close to the line that when the ball snapped, he's 0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:50.159 completely out of the play. He had no awareness and 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:52.639 to you know, fill a gap because he was too 0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:55.480 close to the line to even see the play transpire. 0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:58.920 Just played himself out of the play pre snap, and 0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:02.200 that's the gap that Lamar ran right through and it 0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:04.359 was all over. There was a There was another one 0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:06.479 of those, a similar run, and I don't know if 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:09.080 it was another case of somebody coming up and not 0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:11.760 reading the play individually, but it was before the end 0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.600 of the first half or Lamar. You know, everybody bit 0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:16.720 on the fake and he and it was it was 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:19.080 a keep and then he just found that one tiny 0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:21.280 seem and next thing, you know, I think it ended 0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:23.520 up being a twenty yard post back. It was a 0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:25.760 tough spot for the New England d because they just 0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:28.800 don't have the guys to cover man, you know, so 0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:32.280 they have to play this discipline kind of zone and 0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:36.200 you know, it works sometimes, but when you get gashed, 0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:39.280 you get gashed. And it was just hard to contain Lamar. 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:41.480 What did he have? Like one hundred and some odd 0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:43.800 I rushed for over one hundred yards, threw up a 0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:45.960 two eighteen and four touchdowns, ran for one hundred and 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:48.920 one and another one. Yet oftimes the other guys better 0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:51.960 than you. Yeah, not to oversimplify it, but that's it. 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:54.320 I mean, he you know, the Patriots mistakes all that, 0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:56.879 but he's just the most talented guy and unless you 0:24:56.960 --> 0:25:00.359 have a special sixty minute defensive performance, he it's gonna 0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:01.879 do what you did today. And if you're gonna have 0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:04.480 let that happen, then you can't make the mistakes any 0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:08.600 someone special upfront and someone special in the back, you know, 0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:10.200 to have a shot to the limit, you just have 0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:12.960 to play him well. You know. It's just to Fred's points, 0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:15.320 you know. And one another one of my bads, Hardy, 0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:18.040 was just I think the coaching let him down a 0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:21.560 little bit today. And I'm gonna simplify this without no 0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:23.879 one for sure if I'm right, But like play calling 0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:27.960 in general, not just offensive play calling, play calling in general. Fred, 0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:29.760 you made the point about, you know, they don't really 0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:32.840 have the horses to play man that often, then why 0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:35.880 go zero blitz on the goal line and let Mark 0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:39.159 Andrews do what Mark Andrews does. He ran right by 0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:42.639 Devin mccordy and the throw was a little underthrown, so 0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:44.760 at allow mccordy to get back into play and made 0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:47.480 Andrews make a tough catch, but that should have been 0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:50.520 an easy touchdown. Zero blitz there, I thought was an odd, 0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.280 odd call. Well, interesting thing. Evan really thought it was bad. 0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.960 He was, and then he was like that, you know, 0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:57.639 just seeing some of the stats, but I'm seeing that 0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:00.719 they that they blitzed Lamar like percent of the time. 0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:02.760 I mean, they really went after him today, but you know, 0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.240 other than the first half, they didn't really have the success. Yeah, 0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:06.920 and I thought that a lot of times he was 0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:09.400 sort of evading that blitz and there was all kinds 0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:13.680 of green around and he either ran or made some 0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:17.080 throws and I'll tell you he missed some opportunities on 0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:18.840 some of those plays. Early in the game he had 0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:21.239 Mark Andrews all by himself and the ball went off 0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:24.080 at Andrews, you know. And then he had another one 0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:25.840 that he under threw Andrews and he had to go 0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:27.520 down and get it. He couldn't cut. But there were 0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:30.440 some opportunities to make plays. Yeah, that that he missed 0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:32.879 on those kinds of plays, whether they flushed him out 0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:34.680 of the pocket. And now all of a sudden he's 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:38.960 broken containment. He could do whatever he wants. Yeah, he's good. 0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:41.320 And it's funny because you see moments where it looks like, hey, 0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:42.800 they got him in the pocket. He looks a little 0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:44.760 bit fuddled. He's having bad throws. But it said, you 0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.399 can't do it consistently enough. But you do have to 0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:49.840 talk about some of these things. Second quarter, third and eight, 0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:54.280 they run, they run Damian and Andrew, Damien Harris, you know, 0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:56.800 for a couple of yards, like what do we doing? 0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:59.560 You know? And then fourth down they decided to go 0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:01.560 for it fourth and three and they throw the ball 0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:04.680 not short of the sticks, short of the line of scrimmage. Well, 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.560 and again we can we can get into this and 0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:10.480 more in depth later on, and I think we should. 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:12.480 I'm just gonna write that one down because I want to, 0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:14.840 you know, get through these and are injured and started 0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:17.520 taking some calls. But the play calling that fourth and 0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:20.120 three was a big one. And then when you're down 0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.360 in the red zone and you desperately need a touchdown, 0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:24.480 the play calling down there. Second and goal from the 0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:28.480 fourteen is not a running down, No kidding. Second a 0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:30.359 goal from the fourteen is not a running down. And 0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:34.800 again Damian Harris for like three yards, And so I'm like, well, okay, 0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:37.400 let's bring a hundred in here. Let's take a shot. 0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:39.400 Let's take a shot two times if we can. By 0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:42.040 the way, the next pass was intercepted by Marlin Humphrey. Oh, 0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:44.320 by the way, Hunter Henry not in on the second 0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:48.240 and fourteen. It's not on the field. It's not tough 0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:49.760 to take a shot with your big tight end when 0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:52.000 he's not even out there. But we'll get to those later. 0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:56.560 We'll get to those later, okay. Um any other overall, 0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:58.280 we don't have to pick on anybody. I thought there 0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:00.840 was some special teams. Yeah, that's Can I highlight just 0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.520 that punt return the forty three yard parts. And there 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:05.600 was another punt return earlier in the game that he 0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:08.879 got a decent return on that was a little leaky. 0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.560 I just put punt punt coverage was leaky today? Was 0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:13.240 that that was like a forty three yard return, was 0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:16.760 it not? Yeah? It fifty six yard punt forty three 0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:20.400 yards big play. You know the fumble clearly by Agalore 0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:23.960 two that was the turnovers were killers. And again I 0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.560 go back the run defense. I've been really touting it 0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:30.000 the first two games. The run defense was outstanding. Today 0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:32.600 it wasn't. And it wasn't just Lamar Jackson. And I 0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:35.600 know the stress that Lamar Jackson puts on it. But 0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:39.960 you know, Justice Hill six carry sixty yards like that 0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:42.760 can't happen like they they got another hundred yards from 0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.520 their running backs who haven't been doing anything. Yeah, it's 0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:47.960 some big place to that one hed some big chunks too. 0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:52.000 So you know, the run defense today was was not good. 0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.560 Um let's move on to seven point two yards to 0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:58.040 carry twenty six carries for one hundred and eighty eight yards. Now, 0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:00.480 again a lot of that is Lamar he average nine 0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:04.240 point seven, but Justice Hill average ten, you know, and 0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:06.720 and Dobbin's only average three point three, but he was 0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.640 he was effective at times. His runs that he got 0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:11.240 stopped on were the ones late when they were just 0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:13.800 trying to get into field goal range. Like the run 0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.760 defense was not great today. Again the touchdown they scored, 0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:19.640 the Ravens scored the first one of the second half. 0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.640 That was mostly due to Lamar and the running backs. 0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.400 And I'm like, oh, I thought they couldn't run. I 0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:26.200 didn't think they had a run game, and sure enough 0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:30.400 they marched down the fields at um injuries. Yeah, we'd 0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:32.040 start with Mac. I mean it's uh, you know this 0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:35.240 this picture going around right now of him screaming in 0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:37.080 pain going into the locker room. Of course Aaron's the 0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:39.200 back of Aaron's head is there to our artist. It 0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:41.760 was so weird on that play because TV missed it. 0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:43.600 Yeah I didn't. You know, they went to a break 0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:47.440 with not even mentioning the play, and you know it 0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:50.040 was an interception, so they followed the interception and all 0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:53.800 that stuff, and you know I looked up, you yelled it, right, 0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:57.960 and I saw Mac, like, you know, hopping to the sideline. 0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:00.160 They put the blue ten up. He just made b 0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:02.840 line past it and right to the locker room, like, oh, 0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:05.800 that's not good. He knows this is not good. So 0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:09.280 like then when they came back from the break, they 0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:12.080 showed it and you know, the guys fell on his legs. 0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:14.280 So I don't know if it was just a bad 0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.640 sprain not a bad sprain, and he's just you know, 0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:22.200 you know, if it just hurt or broken. I have 0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:26.240 no idea, they asked Bill. Um, he said, I just 0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:29.719 got in. I don't know what's going on. I mean, 0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.920 can you tell what happened? Um? Yeah, I mean you know, 0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:34.600 can you tell the end, like if it was a 0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:37.160 snap or just a spring rolled on. I mean, but 0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:39.120 he's instantly in pain. I mean, it's just it's a 0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:41.280 it's a weird quirk a mac like he just like 0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:43.760 tries to hop up and hop off, like I think, right, 0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.000 he didn't even try to put weight on it. That's 0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:49.960 like immediately yeah. Yeah. That the shot of him is 0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:51.760 him at the bottom of the stairs right before going 0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:53.960 into the locker room, and he's still but does you 0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:56.800 see it kind of get twisted. It's just left left 0:30:56.920 --> 0:31:00.440 leg or ankle. Definitely his ankle, because I saw grabbed 0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:05.480 for the ankle immediately and I would say, um, sometimes 0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:09.600 these can be dangerous. Um. Sometimes they say a high 0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:11.600 ankle is worse than a break. No, but I mean 0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:16.840 there's there's some quotes on Twitter from Patriots players. They're 0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:19.160 all being asked about their confidence level and Brian Hoyer, 0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.680 and they're all answering the question geez, you know, it's 0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:23.640 next man up, that kind of stuff. So no, but 0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:29.280 I'm I'm serious, Like, if they didn't think there was anything, yeah, 0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:32.200 screaming in pain, I don't think that they would be 0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:35.480 addressing questions about Brian. Right, I get your point, But 0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.440 I'm sorry, did I go mister? He said, And I said, 0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.040 so this is what happens, Okay. I thought I thought 0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:42.680 you would making it fun of me for being captain obvious, 0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:47.120 which would have been which would have been an uh. 0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:51.600 Bailey got looked at, came back hamstring for Mills. He uh. 0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:54.200 I mean, I don't know if he came back. But 0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.280 Lawrence was right the end, and Lawrence guy was the 0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:58.080 big one that was a shoulder. He was out that 0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.400 I mean, and I mean they were already having some 0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:02.800 success running. I do think I do think it got 0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:04.800 worse when he left the game. I think that was 0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.960 a significant factor. Yeahs as much as as much as 0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:11.920 we've been calling for more bar more. You know they 0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.520 did run the ball better when guy left the game. 0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:17.800 Ye all right, let's let's move to the phones here 0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:20.640 eight five five Pats five hundred Web Radio at Patriots 0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.440 dot com if you'd like to send us an electronic mail. 0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:28.200 We begin with fingers crossed to Eric in New Jersey. Eric, 0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:31.720 you're on the Patriots post game show? What's going on? Hey, guys? 0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.320 Was going on? I kind of want talking as the 0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:37.760 defense real quick? Um seemed like did Matt Wilson um 0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:40.680 get pulled? To seem the second half? He seemed to 0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:42.800 missed a couple of plays there in the first half. 0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:44.640 I know he had the two miss tackles last week. 0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:47.560 I mean the speech showing up out there, but it's 0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:50.080 just not making the plays. He did not play well today. 0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:52.360 I would say he was responsible for a couple of 0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:54.959 big plays early in the game. And you know you're wondering, like, Yo, 0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:57.960 Matt Wilson, he's a pretty good player. Why is he available? Why? Why? 0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:02.120 You know? Like, and that's why he's not consistent. He 0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:04.160 seemed more like Gary Guten out there that he just 0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:07.160 from like two thousand having speed out there, just had 0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:11.719 but just fast. It hasn't where he's going. Yeah, I mean. 0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:14.240 And then Miles Bryant, he seems like another one like 0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:16.440 Jason will Hype from back in the dates. He seems 0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:19.280 to be on the highlight riels every week. Um, I mean, 0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:21.239 when are we gonna give Marcus Junes? We're gonna give 0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:24.800 the kids? Les Bryant. I can see it kind of 0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:26.720 always there, never makes the play, I can I can 0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:29.720 see what he's talking about. Yea, working hard, not getting 0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:33.480 much done. Yeah, all right, Eric, thanks for the call. Oh, 0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:35.440 we'll go to Paul in Houston. Paul, you're on the 0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.600 Patriots post game show. What's up, Paul? Hey guys, how 0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:42.120 are you guys doing good? Yeah? Well, uh, let me 0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.760 start back saying that I feel that that was a 0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:50.200 defense showing for the defense first three quarters. So I 0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:52.960 think Paul mentioned it earlier. I think we made it 0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:57.680 thrive today. But the offense, that comment that Evan made 0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:01.120 on the show on Wednesday, the offense listening like it's 0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:05.160 being designed by an extensive coordinator, was still accurate. I mean, 0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:09.080 just some of the calls on third down and fourth down, 0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:13.840 you know in the in the red zone. That's just 0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:17.839 an acceptable I think Dtree fat kind a good game. 0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:23.640 But one thing I want a key on how they're 0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:27.920 used in. I think they're fourth in to have Julia 0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:30.400 Smith on the field more than Hunter Henry. After the 0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:32.960 season Henry had last season, I thought Henry play much better. 0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.920 I think it's a better tight end as far as 0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:38.520 a total package. I just want to hear you guys 0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:42.879 talk about that. Well, yeah, I mean, Henry's not been 0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:45.879 blocking well this year, and that's the whole thing. They're 0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:49.239 clearly not really designing much to get the tight ends 0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:52.120 involved in the passing game. And Jonah Smith is, to 0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:54.640 your point, fred definitely a better blocker than Hunter Henry. 0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:58.800 I don't necessarily say I agree with it, but you 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.000 know they chargeted the tight end five times today and 0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:03.480 had five catches on him, but no plays. You know, 0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:06.480 the longest game for both of them was eight yards UM, 0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.080 So four catches for twenty five yards for Johnah Smith, 0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:12.160 one for eight for Hunter Henry. They're not throwing the ball, 0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:15.200 so my guess is they think that Smith is a 0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:17.680 better blocker and that's why he's been out there. I 0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:19.360 don't know why I don't have the answer to that. 0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:22.040 They don't. I mean, they're just not involved. I mean 0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:24.480 it doesn't seem like there's I mean, the effort to 0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:26.919 get the ball to the wide receivers is clearly there, 0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:30.399 like it's a mandate. But and clearly Hardy has Hunter 0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:33.960 and Fantasy football because he's he's having a I just 0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:38.239 don't know. I had him today because I had my 0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:40.000 whole team is on suspension, so I had to put 0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:43.120 someone in. Yeah, I just don't understand why you target 0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:45.320 him once he makes a catch and that's it the 0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:47.359 whole rest of the game. For two weeks now he's 0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:50.839 on the pay no Mind list. It's just that, I mean, 0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:53.600 like this isn't even the surface level of like, you know, 0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:55.520 you signed these guys, you had a plan for why 0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:57.120 you brought them in, and last year I get like 0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:59.360 the questions, but this year it's like even less and 0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.319 now maybe kind of overlook that game. But now you've 0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:04.080 got two games in a row where it just doesn't 0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.799 really seem like they can effectively get them the ball 0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:09.319 or you know, really tap tap their talents. I mean, 0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:10.960 you know, we did just something else. I noticed. It 0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:12.560 was like every time they get like down and you know, 0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:14.840 we got a glimpse of like some red zone possessions. 0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:17.120 It's all like spread offense still Like it's like they're 0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:18.880 on the two yard line and Max's still in the shotgun, 0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:21.040 like there's no It's just it kind of striking to 0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.799 me the difference between back in the day, not even 0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:26.399 back in the day, go back to last year when 0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:28.080 they had a full back and they'd have power. They 0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:30.400 just they don't really seem to be going into that anymore. 0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:34.719 That is, they had about three carries that they tried 0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:36.520 today from inside the five yard line, all of them 0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:39.640 resulted in touchdowns. Just line up and run it. What 0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:41.680 do you what do you try to trick people for? 0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:45.160 Your running game in the red zone was really good 0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:47.320 last year. That was the one element of the offense 0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:49.880 that I thought was pretty good last year when they 0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:53.200 got down close goal to goal. Damian Harris, I say 0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:55.920 this stat a million times. He had fifteen rushing touchdowns. 0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:59.480 That's a good number. And today they ran it in 0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.520 again when they when they had to, you know, I mean, uh, 0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:06.399 Davidan Harris two yard touchdown run, Romadre Stevenson one yard 0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:09.279 touchdown run. I mean, like that's what you want to 0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:11.840 do down there? Right? And then Mac scrambled in for 0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:15.759 another rushing touchdown on the third one. But I don't 0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:20.280 know why you're so concerned, Like they came this close 0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:22.960 to end in the game in the third quarter when 0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:25.200 Mac through one right to Patrick Queen on first and 0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:27.440 goal from like the two hit him right in the 0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:31.560 sixth he catches that he's gone, right, then what do 0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:33.759 they do the next play? Let's just hand the ball 0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:35.560 out to Romandri Stevenson here, make sure we get in 0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:40.279 the end zone. That could have been game. Oh yeah, absolutely, no. 0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:44.160 I I understand what you're saying about Hunter Henry and 0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:45.680 he's not great at blocking. That's why he is not 0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:47.520 in there. But can he catch? I mean, can he 0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.080 get can he get open? What he been worthy of 0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:54.000 a target on that second and fourteen? Yes? When that's 0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:56.279 and so why is he not in there? Why are 0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.880 they are they getting greedy with the with the uh 0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:01.319 you know the running backs are like you know, if 0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:04.040 if he had fifteen rushing touchdowns last year, let's try 0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:06.719 him from fifteen yards out well to see if that works. 0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:08.640 It's not going to work. That's not the play to 0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:10.960 call there. It's like, I don't even know. And I 0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:14.400 know that, but even last year Henry was effective in 0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:17.279 the red zone, but was the effective outside of that? 0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.759 I mean, I don't know. I'm not hey, I'm not 0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:23.880 asking him for you know, to get ten targets, give 0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:26.560 him five, give him give him one, and those one 0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:28.920 of those situations. How but you know, and on the 0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:31.960 on the very next play they do something similar. You know, 0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:35.480 the second and third down plays on that series were 0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:38.480 just they were just garbage. I don't understand. I just 0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:40.600 I understand why they You won't utilize some of the 0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:44.080 weapons that you already have, even if they're not perfect. Okay, 0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:46.200 they're not perfect. Hunter Henry is not, you know, the 0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:49.399 prototypical Bill Belichick time and he doesn't see well enough. 0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.800 Oh well, I know what you're saying, Hardy, But it 0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:54.760 didn't seem to me like, oh, the reason the Patriots 0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:57.279 offense was having trouble is because they weren't using all 0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:02.440 their weapons. They were making mistakes. You know, it's not like, 0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:04.879 oh man, they could have really used this here and there. 0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:08.160 They were just okay, so what what mistakes were they making? 0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:13.200 Turnovers for one, that's one, okay, penalties for two? You 0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:17.200 know I'm talking about errors, not like bad play calling, 0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:19.880 and some of them I ain't. Bad play calling was, 0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:23.200 by the way, the biggest play calling to me. Turnovers 0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:25.760 happened as a result of bad play calling and also 0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:28.480 Mac trying to force some throws into guys, Yes, that 0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:32.120 aren't equipped to either either bring them down either in 0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:35.160 traffic or or get a body on somebody to create 0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.680 some space. But that's like, for example, the one where 0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:39.520 Mac threw it up in the end zone. Yeah, the 0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:42.800 biggest player the game, but that's not that was Max Gotta. 0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.359 I'm sure those plays were called with Tom Brady too. 0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.360 Brady would throw it away and take the three and 0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:51.600 you loose. That's the point you needed a touchdown to 0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:54.040 you were down five. No, but but you had plenty 0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:58.040 of time. You needed to capitalize on that turn take 0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:01.040 the points. Now, I'm with yeah, I mean sure, in retrospect, 0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.359 I'd rather have a field goal than a than a pick. Right, 0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:06.879 But you lift you throw the pick because you run 0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:09.120 on second and fourteen, I know, but you throw the 0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:11.759 pick because that's bad. That's a bad everything, And I 0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:13.640 know no one wants to say it because he had 0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:15.239 You know, you got to protect the ball bows, but 0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:18.040 that's actually bearing down on him. It was like two 0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:21.239 defenders there. It wasn't gonna happen. Just throw it away 0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:23.800 and take the three. I get I guess from the 0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:27.560 pressure on him again because instead of having two throws 0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:30.080 where maybe you can dictate what you do, you get 0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:32.479 yourself in third and goal from the ten. I gotta 0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:35.360 do it here comes to safety, blitz out of the slot. 0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:38.759 He gets there, untouched pick. Terrible played by Mac. I'm 0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:42.200 not absolving Mac. Mac didn't play well. He had some 0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:45.000 periods that he did some great things, especially with his 0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:48.800 feet today. Yeah, but he didn't play well overall. He 0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:50.640 made some good throws, but when the game was on 0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:52.520 the line, he did not make good throws. And that 0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:56.359 was a terrible throw. Terrible throw. I'm not absolving him, 0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:59.600 but I'm with hardy play calling set that sequence out, 0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:01.640 and I think some of those mistakes are a result 0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.480 of plays being called, and Mac has put in a 0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:06.719 position where, well, what else do you want me to do? 0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:08.799 Maybe if you had a tight end on the field 0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:12.200 and you had the green light to target him four 0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:15.640 six yards across the middle, just you know, just put 0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:17.880 it up high where he can get it. And do 0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:19.719 that as opposed to chuck him one in the corner 0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:22.440 in the end zone that's way too short and ends 0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:24.960 up being a pick, and that essentially that effectively ends 0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.480 the game. Well, there you go, that's what that's what 0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:29.160 you end up with. Did you feel the game was 0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:31.440 over when Mylein Humphrey picked that ball off? Yeah? I 0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:35.080 kind of did too. Now it shouldn't have been, but 0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:36.600 I kind of felt like it was. I didn't think 0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:39.000 it like how many times you think the defense defense 0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:41.520 didn't really stop him much. Today they had just stopped 0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:43.560 him when they forced that Bateman fumble. Yes, and then 0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.279 they gave him the ball right back and they went 0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:47.000 right down the field. And that's what's like a bigger 0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:48.439 part of it. And I mean, I agree with everything 0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:49.800 you guys are saying, but it's just, you know, the 0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:53.239 overall game on the line, let's kind of kick it 0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:55.600 into gear and really start to play our best football, 0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:57.560 and they just kind of withered, like they felt like 0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:00.440 they came out playing their best football. Kind of put 0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:02.560 that and even you know, again in kind of common 0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:05.360 recent Patriot history, start in the in the start of 0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:07.480 the third quarter two but you know, at the end, 0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:10.160 it's just that that's when they didn't play their best football. 0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:12.200 They played their worst football. Actually, I just want to 0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:14.560 correct myself because there was another possession in that the 0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:17.040 Patriots defense did actually come up with another stop after 0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:21.239 that interception, and then that's when a Galore fumbled. Yeah, 0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:24.960 they kind of just took turns. That's there's another play 0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:26.600 call and want to ask you about. But before we 0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:29.040 go to break, and that was you mentioned it briefly. 0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:32.440 The fourth and three early on horrific And this is 0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:34.520 what we're talking about in the pregame. Let's take some 0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:36.840 of these chances today, you know, let's not be afraid 0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:40.080 to turn the ball over midfield. That was the one 0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:42.360 where they sent Kendrick Borne in motion I think, and 0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:45.040 then he's kind of draws the defense with him. So 0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.560 explain it to me. Explain what's supposed to be happening 0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:50.120 on that Blaye, what actually happened? Well, I get I 0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:52.359 think park it was supposed to be a pick play right, 0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:55.480 and Parker missed the pick on the fourth and three. Yes, 0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:58.320 I think Fred has it. Okay, that will be my guess. Again, 0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:00.440 I'm not a I'm not in all twenty, but but 0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:02.919 I'm with you. Like, why are you throwing it behind 0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:06.279 the sticks? Three yards behind the sticks? Um, they threw 0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:08.920 the ball behind the line. Yeah, that play never developed 0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:10.840 the way it was supposed to. Yeah, I think Parker 0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:13.799 missed the pick um. But I don't like I mean, 0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.040 I don't like having to run pick play there, just 0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:22.160 run a play, right, It just oh yeah, there's a 0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:26.600 lot to be frustrated about. I think that it's funny 0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:30.520 because I think Mac did some things today that I've 0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:32.839 never really seen him do, and he kept them a lot. 0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.359 That touchdown drive that he led was almost all I mean, 0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:37.920 after he threw his first pick and you know he 0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:41.520 ruined that drive. Next drive, it was because of Mac 0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:43.640 that they scored, right, He kept it along. He made 0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:45.680 a beautiful throw to Parker to start the drive. Then 0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:49.080 he made a couple of insane scrambles that like, I 0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:53.120 don't know how he did, right, it's just really fourth 0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:54.800 and one play that he bought all that time, and 0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:56.680 then hit Jono Smith for the first time. That was 0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.279 an amazing play. And again and even the two pointer 0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:04.719 that it was Yeah, that's not and that's what Loud said. 0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:06.600 He goes what a play? I said, Do you think 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:08.880 that was a play. No, it was, it was. It 0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:13.160 was some great football. You. I was sort of wondering 0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:15.239 how they will letting that go when it happened, why, 0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:16.880 I was like, he looked like he was and he 0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:19.520 was like almost on his face. Yeah, like he was 0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:21.440 all the way down. 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I've 0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:02.319 never seen anything like in my life. It's like I'm 0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:04.320 working with a couple of zolacs. All of a sudden, 0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:06.480 it's just gone. I mean, it's like we're at ninety 0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:10.439 eight point five. This is professional radio. I agree with you, Fred, 0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:13.960 it's not, you know, that's just mess around. Fred was 0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:15.440 here so we didn't have to really worry about did 0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:17.560 you say what you said. Were you doing the over 0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:21.239 unders totals? No, oh, okay, because the overunders I think 0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:22.840 I did. Okay, well, I think we're all four and 0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:28.399 two unders. We're all four and two in the overrunders. Okay, 0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:30.480 all right, all right, three of us, all right, all right, 0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:32.279 I'll take your word for it. Trust him, hardy. All right, 0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:35.240 let's get to the phones here. Five five pats, five hundred. 0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:40.320 Appreciate that, Fred, Appreciate you. By the way, I just 0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:43.680 received word on Twitter that the mac Jones injury was 0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:46.719 in fact the result of that last play, not him 0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:49.440 flopping out of bounds trying to draw the late hit 0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:52.800 personal foul call. Did you see the flop on the sideline? 0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:55.640 Even Fred said, oh, yeah, that's not a penalty. Yeah. 0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:58.239 The guy literally took his hands off of him when 0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:00.880 he got to the white like he left his feet 0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:04.840 and dove. Yeah it was. It wasn't a penalty, borderline. No. 0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:07.480 Not only was it not a penalty, it's kind of 0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:09.920 embarrassing when you watch the replay. Yeah, I was. I'm 0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:12.360 a bit embarrassed. I don't like those plays, no, Like 0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:14.239 I remember Mahomes did one of those on a Monday 0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:16.520 Night game a few years ago against the Patriots, and 0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:19.200 I was like, stop, oh, that'll be a meme. He's 0:49:19.239 --> 0:49:23.759 too good for that. Let's go to ban the camera. 0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:28.399 What's up, Brian? Oh, I don't know about that, friend, Brian. 0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:31.439 What do you got guys? I got two different things, 0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:35.280 uh mentioned to you guys. First thing is for fred 0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:39.200 Um Fred I appreciate everything you do as far as 0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:41.520 game by game play. It's like a no, you get 0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:44.800 a lot of critics must fans, but we definitely appreciate it. 0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:49.640 For a second thing, between Hardy and Paul Um, I 0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:51.680 got two different things. It's like, I don't mean to 0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:54.280 go back the way back from Wayne and when Brady played, 0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:56.560 but it seems like when we're in the red zone 0:49:56.600 --> 0:50:00.759 we put more tight ends involvement in like we did 0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:04.680 with Brady, and we're not doing so much with John Hunter. 0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:09.319 That's true. No, well it's certainly not this year. Last 0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:11.759 year Hunter had his share, but not now I know, 0:50:11.920 --> 0:50:14.200 But yet What but bubbles my mind is you seem 0:50:14.280 --> 0:50:15.960 okay with it. You're like, oh, that's not the reason 0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:18.200 why they when they're getting close, they're scoring. It's not 0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:26.040 like they're not scoring today. Before us and involvement. They 0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:29.600 ran it in three times. We're when when they needed it, 0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:32.600 when they needed it, when when you desperately need to 0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:34.880 score in the fourth quarter and you're down, and then 0:50:34.960 --> 0:50:37.839 and then he doesn't come on the field. I'm talking 0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:40.839 about when they're close in Okay, talking about red zone 0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:42.800 right now? Okay, Well, on the red zone in the 0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:46.759 fourth quarter, down five, they threw a pick. That's a killer, 0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:49.839 and they threw a pick because they ran the ball. First, 0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:52.879 they throw a swing pass on first and goal from 0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:56.239 the ten that loses four yards. Terrible call. And then 0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:59.160 they get a four yard run on second and fourteen, 0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:02.040 another horrible call. Then it's on Mac on the pick. 0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:04.480 I agree with you on that. Matt can't throw a 0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:07.560 pick and you gotta kick a field goal. It seems 0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:12.759 like off his wrong foot and he's off balance. Well, 0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:16.719 that one, it was just a bad decision, period, just bad. 0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:20.959 Like this isn't like practice, like a do or die play, 0:51:21.560 --> 0:51:24.360 you know it, And it's almost like he thought he 0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:26.560 was back in practice with those do or die Yeah, 0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:28.239 you know what, It's funny you say that because it 0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:29.960 did have that kind of a feel to it. It's 0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:32.280 like this is that this is the end of eleven 0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:34.680 on elevens. You know, if you gotta do something here, 0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:37.000 well I'll take a shot. It's like, no, you're not 0:51:37.080 --> 0:51:41.239 even close. You have to that's game awareness, situational awareness. 0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:43.239 And I'm sorry, Fred, I'm just I'm not gonna be 0:51:43.360 --> 0:51:45.799 okay with your twelve million dollars a year tight end 0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:49.480 just being just being put in mothfuls. I mean, they 0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:51.680 look like ryanz Owe and Matt Lacosse from you know, 0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:53.160 twenty nineteen when you had to go out and get 0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:55.239 those guys via Pa. You know, I had to pay 0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:57.120 free agents to get those guys, and for what now 0:51:57.200 --> 0:51:59.040 they're not really producing, They're not part of the offense. 0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:03.080 So yeah, Scott's supposed to be like, you know, a real, 0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:05.839 you know, viable weapon. They're just not using them at all. 0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:08.399 I also just feel like, to Fred's point, like it's 0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:11.640 like item number six on my level of concern with 0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:13.719 the offense, where like, all right, I mean I'd love 0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:15.160 to get the tight ends. I'd also love to not 0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:18.120 throw four turnovers. I don't want to get them involved 0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:22.239 for involvement's sake. I think if there's something not working, yeah, 0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:23.640 I can help them in the red zone. It can 0:52:23.719 --> 0:52:26.560 help them move the ball a little bit and maybe 0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:30.120 give Maxim better options as opposed dude chucking it up 0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:32.160 like you know, he doesn't want to run a lap. Yeah, 0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:33.879 that's all. It's just the same thing last week people 0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:35.880 were saying about Parker always really got two targets and 0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:37.840 an interception, and all right, well he was involved today, 0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:40.440 it didn't really matter if the same kind of result happened, 0:52:40.480 --> 0:52:41.799 you know. Like I mean, I'm not trying to pick 0:52:41.840 --> 0:52:43.840 on your point, like I think you're totally right. I 0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:46.360 just think they they're a mess right now, and you know, 0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:49.080 getting those guys involved would be great, but at some 0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:51.360 point they've got to like just establish a baseline and 0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:53.640 not beating themselves, and I don't feel like they're there yet. 0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:59.319 Brent in Vermont on the Patriots postgame show, Hello Brent, Hey, boys, 0:53:00.400 --> 0:53:04.200 what's going on? Well, you know, so, nothing's more infuriating 0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:07.480 than losing a winnable game because we totally had the 0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:10.480 chance to multiple times. And my question is is when 0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:12.560 are we going to go back. I'm not expecting mac 0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:14.920 Zones to be toun Brady by any means, but I 0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:17.120 feel like what made us win in the past was 0:53:17.200 --> 0:53:20.840 playing smart and precisely, you know, whether it's you know, 0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:24.640 the dink and dimes, three four or five yard passes 0:53:24.680 --> 0:53:27.400 and then running it. And I just feel like what 0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:30.720 separated us from the garbage team was making those reckless 0:53:30.719 --> 0:53:33.520 saw throws, which seems like we're trying to do now. 0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:35.880 So I'm just wondering when you guys think we're going 0:53:35.920 --> 0:53:37.920 to go back to how we used to play, you know, 0:53:38.000 --> 0:53:41.320 all through the you know, two thousand to two thousand 0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:43.239 and ten. It would be nice if we could find 0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:48.000 some kind of middle ground between ineffective runs and reckless throws. 0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:49.840 Well and right now there appears to be not a 0:53:49.880 --> 0:53:52.520 lot of middle ground. But remember remember what I was saying, 0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:55.440 well you during the week, Hardy, I was saying that, 0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:58.480 like in Max's for a season, his rookie season, they 0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:02.680 really bottled him up. They protected him from making mistakes 0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:05.040 by the kind of players they were calling in the 0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:08.200 game they were running. And you know, Manning had more 0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:11.600 interceptions and touchdowns his rookie season. He kind of got 0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:13.800 it out of his system. He was allowed, he was 0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:17.600 allowed to make mistakes, and I don't think Mac was 0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:21.080 this year and now this year, I think he's last year. 0:54:22.000 --> 0:54:24.560 Now this year, I think he is. You know, the 0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:27.879 leash has been lengthened a little bit, and I think 0:54:27.920 --> 0:54:32.000 he is able to throw those reckless balls. And you know, 0:54:32.200 --> 0:54:34.320 if you could go ahead in time and tell me 0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:36.959 that because of the mistakes he makes this year, he'll 0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:40.520 learn and he'll get better, then okay, let's have a 0:54:40.600 --> 0:54:43.360 bad season and let's go forward. But I don't know 0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:48.680 about that. He's not Peyton Manning. But I'm okay with 0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:51.520 him chucking it down field. I really am. I really 0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:55.160 you gotta try it, you know, like you can't play 0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:57.960 dank and dunk forever. You know, he's got to get 0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:03.000 because this team doesn't have the consistency to matriculate the 0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:07.120 ball down field. You know, with ten, twelve plays, fourteen plays. 0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:10.440 They've got to take some chances this year. They've got 0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:13.239 to take chances this year, and that's the only way 0:55:13.239 --> 0:55:15.560 they're gonna have a chance on offense. And if they 0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:17.920 you know, if they can't do what they can't do it, 0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:20.200 we're gonna have a bad season. I said they were 0:55:20.239 --> 0:55:22.680 gonna be eight and nine. It might be worse, you know, 0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:27.120 but but I think in his development, you can't keep 0:55:27.200 --> 0:55:29.920 him under wraps forever. You gotta see what you got here. 0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:33.319 I don't want to go into week in season three 0:55:34.000 --> 0:55:37.520 with him having not taken chances and us being not 0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:40.000 knowing what we've got with this guy. The only thing 0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:43.520 is today I don't think is that I agree with 0:55:43.760 --> 0:55:46.080 almost everything you said. We talked about this during the week. 0:55:46.320 --> 0:55:48.359 I just don't think today was that day. They threw 0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:51.360 it all over the place today, down the field, and 0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:54.759 I'm not complaining about that. I'm not suggesting that you are. 0:55:54.840 --> 0:55:58.520 I'm saying they today they let him make throws down 0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:01.040 the field and he made He missed some, but he 0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:05.040 made some, and it just wasn't enough. I mean, I 0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:06.480 kind of feel like we know what we have in Mac. 0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:08.560 Not to say that his career is defined, but I 0:56:08.640 --> 0:56:10.560 mean this is what he's been and there were definitely 0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:13.040 some bright spots in that. I think the difference from 0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:16.760 me at Peyton Manning he's kind of like a wild stallion. 0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:19.799 He's a young guy with all the different tools. He's got, 0:56:19.880 --> 0:56:23.360 the strength, the smarts, everything. It's a little easier to 0:56:23.440 --> 0:56:25.359 let those guys just kind of do it, where with Mac, 0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:27.960 I kind of think like he needs to be managed 0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:30.120 a little bit, and clearly with the mistakes that he's 0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:33.359 making something there's some kind of disconnect because he's still 0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:36.480 making those mistakes in the most critical moments when the 0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:38.439 game is really on the line in New England's hanging 0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:40.279 by a threat and they really need a touchdown and 0:56:40.320 --> 0:56:42.239 he puts one up that you know has no prayer 0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:45.200 being completed. So I think he needs to be managed. 0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:47.000 But I think at the same time, we need to 0:56:47.040 --> 0:56:50.400 see what happens when it's his decision. What are his 0:56:50.560 --> 0:56:53.120 decisions going to be, and let him learn from that. 0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:56.400 If he never has to make a decision, he's never 0:56:56.480 --> 0:56:58.680 gonna learn, you know. So I know I'm being very 0:56:58.760 --> 0:57:02.680 simplistic about this, but you gotta let you gotta take 0:57:02.719 --> 0:57:04.839 the training wheels off. Let's see what this guy does 0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:07.880 when it's his decision. And I mean, my question too 0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:10.120 would be, you know, how much freedom does he have 0:57:10.280 --> 0:57:12.720 within this system? You know, like like how much involved 0:57:12.800 --> 0:57:14.200 is he how much does he know what's going on 0:57:14.320 --> 0:57:17.320 to make choices, Whereas maybe he doesn't even really realize 0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:19.440 what his choices are. He's like, I've got one choice, 0:57:19.760 --> 0:57:21.800 but you know, I don't know. But my fear is 0:57:22.520 --> 0:57:24.720 like the pick they threw in the end zone where 0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:26.800 he was where he's trying to get it to Parker. 0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:31.400 Was that his decision? Yeah, well it would have been 0:57:31.520 --> 0:57:34.320 his decision. No, the play was designed, but it would 0:57:34.320 --> 0:57:37.960 have been his decision. That's exactly answer. It would have 0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:40.360 been his decision not to throw it, and he made 0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:43.800 the decision to throw it. That's you know, Okay, so 0:57:43.920 --> 0:57:45.840 well you're kind of getting you're kind of getting what 0:57:45.920 --> 0:57:47.920 you're asking for. And it's not a great result, right, 0:57:48.000 --> 0:57:51.600 it's but he needs more of it. Just you can't 0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:53.280 just give up up and on one game he's gotta 0:57:53.440 --> 0:57:56.400 you gotta let him do that. It It took Peyton 0:57:56.440 --> 0:57:59.720 Manning a season, obviously, you know it's gonna take this 0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:03.120 guy a while. This it's it's a tough pause. You know. 0:58:03.720 --> 0:58:07.440 We're told that his superpower, if he has one, is cerebral. 0:58:07.640 --> 0:58:11.480 It's his head. He's very smart. Okay, well, if if 0:58:11.520 --> 0:58:14.240 he's making bad decisions, then he doesn't have that power, 0:58:14.320 --> 0:58:17.720 then he's lost, you know. So you'll only get that 0:58:17.840 --> 0:58:21.000 in the NFL through experience. You'll only get it through 0:58:21.080 --> 0:58:24.720 experience from making bad plays and learning from it. It's 0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:27.760 really really hard to be a quarterback in the NFL. 0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:31.960 You gotta do it through experience. There's no other way. 0:58:32.280 --> 0:58:34.120 And right now, while I can think about is I 0:58:34.240 --> 0:58:37.240 hope he gets to continue stacking experience right now based 0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:39.680 on the injury, and you know, from like that's you know, 0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:41.400 that's a huge thing right now if he you know, 0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:43.880 if he can't go for a week for longer, you know, 0:58:43.960 --> 0:58:45.600 how much is that going to set him back in 0:58:45.760 --> 0:58:48.720 terms of his development? And you know, this season critically 0:58:48.760 --> 0:58:51.640 important in his second year. It really doesn't. It hurts 0:58:51.680 --> 0:58:54.600 a lot. Frightening, it hurts a lot. Let's go to 0:58:54.880 --> 0:59:00.760 uh Rodney in Cincinnati. Rodney, what I don't think? I 0:59:00.800 --> 0:59:04.200 don't think it's Rodney? Here is this Rodney Harrison? No, 0:59:04.360 --> 0:59:10.880 it's Rodney. Okay, how you doing today, Rodney Mayo? I 0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:15.240 see y'all was trying, y'all trying. We'll be quiet. Go ahead, 0:59:15.600 --> 0:59:18.400 ask your question. What do you guys? I'm gonna I'm 0:59:18.440 --> 0:59:21.560 gonna just hid from d on the defense because right 0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:24.360 at the top of the fourth quarter, you've seen uh 0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:27.040 who would that that make that place for the fumble 0:59:27.440 --> 0:59:32.320 the grab receiver called the bal up. Nelson got hit 0:59:32.360 --> 0:59:35.040 from behind and that's the second fumble for Nelson Agalore 0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:38.680 in three games. So you wonder Baltimore Baltimore top of 0:59:38.720 --> 0:59:43.600 the oh Rashad Bateman fumbled for Baltimore. Yeah, alright, alright, 0:59:43.800 --> 0:59:47.040 questionable for what I'm saying. No, I'm trying to say 0:59:47.120 --> 0:59:49.600 some mine on our defense, No question, I'm sorry I did. 0:59:50.040 --> 0:59:52.760 Our defense sold up today for real. In the fourth quarter, 0:59:52.960 --> 0:59:57.400 you know, defense scare up thirty seven points. Yeah, but 0:59:58.040 --> 1:00:01.800 that was the offense all over. No, not really. We 1:00:01.880 --> 1:00:07.760 got a time eleven plays, sixty nine yards. Let me 1:00:07.800 --> 1:00:10.919 get it out, eight nine place seventy five yards, seven 1:00:11.000 --> 1:00:13.880 place seventy five yards. These are not turnover seven place 1:00:13.960 --> 1:00:17.760 seventy five yards. These are not turnover related points they allowed. 1:00:17.960 --> 1:00:21.760 They had one drive four plays, uh forty four yards 1:00:21.840 --> 1:00:24.000 on the short field that was that was on the 1:00:24.080 --> 1:00:26.760 punt return, not on the turnover. They had a field 1:00:26.800 --> 1:00:29.960 goal drive that they took over, and we went five 1:00:30.040 --> 1:00:32.680 yards on the pick that he threw in the third quarter. 1:00:32.840 --> 1:00:34.760 What what I want to say is is in the 1:00:34.840 --> 1:00:39.080 fourth quarters, the outfense Patriots out, take no time off 1:00:39.120 --> 1:00:41.960 the off the clouds game had our defense right back 1:00:42.000 --> 1:00:44.520 down there so many times. You know, it's a long game. 1:00:44.960 --> 1:00:47.000 And in the fourth quarter, I think we were gads, 1:00:47.120 --> 1:00:49.800 but our offense could getting no tam off the clouds 1:00:49.800 --> 1:00:53.400 for our defense to settle down. If you had I'll 1:00:53.440 --> 1:00:55.560 give it. I'll give you that one. Defense was terrible. 1:00:55.800 --> 1:00:58.360 I mean, I mean, it is what it is. I mean, 1:00:58.880 --> 1:01:01.800 the offense was bad, the defense was bad. They made 1:01:01.880 --> 1:01:04.080 some plays during the course of the game, but not enough. 1:01:05.520 --> 1:01:07.320 Not I mean, I'm sorry. I mean those are the 1:01:07.360 --> 1:01:10.560 scoring drive sixty nine yards seventy five yards, seventy five 1:01:10.640 --> 1:01:13.960 yards seventy five. You can't win like that. That's why 1:01:14.040 --> 1:01:21.360 they were gassed them by Baltimore. The Patriots play three 1:01:21.440 --> 1:01:23.760 minutes total time O they in a ball back, they 1:01:23.840 --> 1:01:27.240 give up a punt, Patriots bumble right after three plays. 1:01:27.800 --> 1:01:30.880 Three plays, that's a minute after a punt, and then 1:01:31.040 --> 1:01:33.760 Baltimore go down right for a touchdown. You see what 1:01:33.800 --> 1:01:36.320 I'm saying, Like, that's just an answer. Well, neither team, 1:01:36.480 --> 1:01:40.320 neither side of the ball complimented the other, right, yeah, Rodney, 1:01:40.400 --> 1:01:43.160 that thanks time. The possession of this game was thirty minutes, 1:01:43.240 --> 1:01:45.960 thirty six seconds to twenty nine minutes and twenty four seconds. 1:01:46.080 --> 1:01:48.560 Let me let me I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no, no, 1:01:48.720 --> 1:01:51.400 let me call what it was. And I agree with you, Paul, 1:01:51.520 --> 1:01:54.080 and I think what Rodney is feeling is probably what 1:01:54.200 --> 1:01:56.920 the defense was feeling in that. If I was a 1:01:57.280 --> 1:02:00.120 defensive player on the Patriots today, I probably thought, at 1:02:00.200 --> 1:02:01.919 least toward the end of that game, I was playing 1:02:01.960 --> 1:02:04.280 a little bit better than the offense was and they 1:02:04.360 --> 1:02:05.919 went out there and coughed it up in a couple 1:02:05.920 --> 1:02:08.400 of big It gives the defense credit, That's what That's 1:02:08.440 --> 1:02:10.760 what I That's what I think he's tapping into. Yeah, 1:02:10.800 --> 1:02:13.680 I give the defense credit for coming up with two 1:02:13.760 --> 1:02:17.240 stops in the second half out of the six drives 1:02:17.280 --> 1:02:22.280 that Baltimore had. You tell me if that's a good percentage. Yeah, 1:02:22.320 --> 1:02:23.920 I mean I give him credit for the three three 1:02:23.920 --> 1:02:27.160 and ounce. You know the I guess the two I 1:02:27.200 --> 1:02:28.960 was gonna say the two three an ounce came in 1:02:29.000 --> 1:02:30.840 the first quarter they played, you know, I mean that 1:02:30.920 --> 1:02:33.960 was a good start second colored someone like the I 1:02:34.000 --> 1:02:35.960 think they played well, and you're like, did you, Mike, 1:02:36.040 --> 1:02:38.280 you nailed it? Because that's exactly what happens. We do 1:02:38.400 --> 1:02:39.760 it all the time when we have a guy that 1:02:39.800 --> 1:02:41.840 we bring them up from the miners in baseball, if 1:02:41.880 --> 1:02:43.360 he gets two hits in his first game. He got 1:02:43.360 --> 1:02:45.320 off to a great start. If he goes over four, 1:02:45.440 --> 1:02:47.680 he's done. Yeah, Like, it's all about what you do 1:02:47.760 --> 1:02:50.200 immediately they did. They had two three and outs out 1:02:50.200 --> 1:02:53.560 of the first three possessions, and they never stopped him again. 1:02:54.280 --> 1:02:58.120 To use Fred's old line, you do it all the time. 1:02:58.480 --> 1:03:00.600 Would you take two steps back from the red please? 1:03:01.240 --> 1:03:03.320 Would you take those twenty dollars bills out? Please? Are 1:03:03.360 --> 1:03:07.360 you read? Yeah? Well? Is that why they call you? Right? Oh? 1:03:07.560 --> 1:03:11.200 It's short for would. My last name is would Doe. 1:03:11.240 --> 1:03:17.080 You're here? Click? What's your first name? Bill? People not 1:03:17.160 --> 1:03:20.080 listening all over the world. Thank you for your time. Bill. Uh, 1:03:20.320 --> 1:03:23.720 let's get to misconfiguration, no idea what he was talking about. 1:03:23.800 --> 1:03:27.320 Let's get to some of these emails. Um, at least 1:03:27.400 --> 1:03:30.680 not everybody is jumping ship and you know there there's 1:03:31.360 --> 1:03:35.040 there are some cooler heads prevailing. Uh, pats are done, 1:03:35.320 --> 1:03:41.000 says Alex. Bill hated Brady. He'd rather not He'd rather 1:03:41.160 --> 1:03:44.280 not compete than compete with Brady. Bill thought he was 1:03:44.360 --> 1:03:48.000 the franchise. Mac was a mistake. Patriots done till Bill 1:03:48.200 --> 1:03:55.920 goes that's from Alex. Okay, I just think this was 1:03:56.240 --> 1:03:59.200 one of those games that it's it's frustrating because it's 1:03:59.200 --> 1:04:02.440 almost better to get blasted like they did a lot 1:04:02.480 --> 1:04:05.240 of things well today. Yeah, I agree, but they did 1:04:05.280 --> 1:04:07.680 a lot of things wrong. Yeah, I mean I want 1:04:07.720 --> 1:04:11.360 to say, I mean it's the same year, you know, 1:04:11.520 --> 1:04:13.640 Like I mean, before the mistakes, I was like, he's 1:04:13.680 --> 1:04:16.240 made some of the best throws and certainly had the 1:04:16.320 --> 1:04:18.400 best you know, first half. I think that they had 1:04:18.680 --> 1:04:20.800 you know that he's had this year with some of 1:04:20.880 --> 1:04:23.280 that stuff I wasn't expecting. But he can't sweep them. 1:04:24.080 --> 1:04:26.240 They made some chunk plays, but they didn't get anything 1:04:26.320 --> 1:04:29.000 out of them. Ye, Like like the first two drives, 1:04:29.040 --> 1:04:31.040 I think they had thirty yard completions to part her 1:04:31.400 --> 1:04:33.680 yep um, and they got ended up with three points 1:04:33.760 --> 1:04:36.440 or something. I mean, if you told me that Parker 1:04:36.520 --> 1:04:38.440 was gonna have one hundred and fifty six yards or 1:04:38.480 --> 1:04:40.880 whatever he had and get announced as having a career 1:04:41.000 --> 1:04:43.560 high and then not all right, but that's but I'd 1:04:43.560 --> 1:04:48.200 be like, Okay, Patriots win, but not even close. Really. Uh. 1:04:48.400 --> 1:04:54.440 John Beecham in Derby, he says, pronounced Dorby, England. Uh. 1:04:54.680 --> 1:04:57.520 He says, Look, I'm baffled by the lack of plays 1:04:57.640 --> 1:05:00.320 Born has been getting. I get he was late and 1:05:00.520 --> 1:05:03.160 discipline needs to be shown, but surely now he should 1:05:03.160 --> 1:05:07.040 be getting more throws or does Mac just not fancy him? 1:05:07.680 --> 1:05:10.200 Was he was he playing more last year? Yeah? Like this, 1:05:10.680 --> 1:05:14.120 he's played playing single digit snaps on average. He didn't play. 1:05:14.560 --> 1:05:17.240 He didn't play much today until the very end. Is 1:05:17.280 --> 1:05:18.800 it that bad? I don't know if they went with 1:05:18.880 --> 1:05:22.600 little jury over him? Yeah, I don't know. That's why 1:05:22.640 --> 1:05:24.640 I say, like, you can give me credit. I don't 1:05:24.680 --> 1:05:28.280 just what I said in pregame didn't happen. I just 1:05:28.360 --> 1:05:30.160 don't know why people see him. I don't know who 1:05:30.200 --> 1:05:31.520 the savior is. Like you want to say, get the 1:05:31.600 --> 1:05:33.800 tight ends involved, that's the savior. You get Kendrick Bourne involved, 1:05:33.800 --> 1:05:35.560 That's a savior. Like like, I don't think it merely 1:05:35.640 --> 1:05:37.240 matters like I think they need. They have so many 1:05:37.280 --> 1:05:38.760 more things they need to get in order. I think 1:05:38.840 --> 1:05:41.000 before those guys can be complimentary pieces that help them 1:05:41.040 --> 1:05:44.200 win if if they do, I think, if they play 1:05:44.320 --> 1:05:47.560 on the average, would they get four hundred and forty 1:05:47.600 --> 1:05:51.400 seven yards of offense like they did today? Right? And 1:05:51.560 --> 1:05:54.200 as part of that they run for one hundred and 1:05:54.280 --> 1:05:57.160 forty five yards over five yards to carry. If they 1:05:57.360 --> 1:06:00.400 play offense like that on a consistent basis, they're gonna 1:06:00.400 --> 1:06:03.200 be Okay. They just made too many mistakes today to 1:06:03.240 --> 1:06:06.520 win the game. And I would also say most games, 1:06:06.760 --> 1:06:08.760 twenty six points is going to have you in position 1:06:08.840 --> 1:06:11.960 to win. Now, today it wasn't even close. But I 1:06:12.120 --> 1:06:14.480 think most times, if the Patriots go to twenty six, 1:06:14.960 --> 1:06:17.400 they should, they should have a really good chance to win. 1:06:17.480 --> 1:06:19.840 And I think that's what frustrates piece some people. Yeah, 1:06:19.920 --> 1:06:22.280 you know, yeah, they've been you know, they're they're on 1:06:22.360 --> 1:06:24.439 the uptrend in terms of being able to put points 1:06:24.520 --> 1:06:26.240 on the board. And I wanted to score at least 1:06:26.240 --> 1:06:28.120 twenty four points today, but you're gonna have to have 1:06:28.160 --> 1:06:31.760 a great defensive effort. It wasn't consistent. Thirteen in the 1:06:31.800 --> 1:06:33.800 first half, thirteen in the second half. Yeah, I thought 1:06:33.800 --> 1:06:36.440 they moved the ball reasonably well. They only punted like twice. 1:06:38.720 --> 1:06:43.600 Matt In framing him, says Paul, this is for you, Paul. Okay, 1:06:43.760 --> 1:06:46.160 at what point can we point the finger at Bill 1:06:46.280 --> 1:06:48.840 for all the dumbass football and bad coaching and Mac 1:06:48.920 --> 1:06:51.480 Jones once again heading to the X ray and Mr 1:06:51.600 --> 1:06:54.920 Rye Room Bill has lost it. I had Bill in 1:06:55.000 --> 1:06:57.440 the coaching at large on my bad list today. The 1:06:57.600 --> 1:06:59.560 thing is that, you know what, you look at the turnovers, 1:06:59.640 --> 1:07:02.520 It's like, that's not Patriots football, Yes, but it is. 1:07:02.640 --> 1:07:06.200 It's post Brady Patriots football. I think Bill got maybe 1:07:06.840 --> 1:07:09.720 too much credit for the lack of turnovers during the 1:07:09.920 --> 1:07:12.560 Patriots air of football, and now maybe is getting too 1:07:12.680 --> 1:07:14.880 much blame for the turnovers. It's the players out there, 1:07:16.720 --> 1:07:19.520 and it gets punched off that Bill I say stuff 1:07:19.560 --> 1:07:23.360 like that. I think it's so I think it's so 1:07:23.560 --> 1:07:27.800 odd that we often equate a well coached team is 1:07:27.840 --> 1:07:30.760 always the one of the least penalized teams. They don't 1:07:30.800 --> 1:07:33.800 turn it off wit Dan Campbell, I think is a 1:07:33.920 --> 1:07:36.480 lug nut. Do you think he tells his guys to 1:07:36.560 --> 1:07:38.919 go out there and jump offside and drop the ball 1:07:39.120 --> 1:07:41.920 and make sure that you create as many make sure 1:07:42.000 --> 1:07:44.120 you give the other team as many turnovers, probably some 1:07:44.200 --> 1:07:47.840 push ups in practice every time they do. You know, like, 1:07:47.960 --> 1:07:51.000 Bill's a great coach because I think his preparation, his 1:07:51.160 --> 1:07:54.320 game plans, his ability to decipher what the other team's doing. 1:07:54.640 --> 1:07:56.880 That's why I think he's a great coach. Not because 1:07:56.920 --> 1:07:59.880 when Brady was here, they were very few turnovers. Brady 1:08:00.080 --> 1:08:02.080 was great. That's why they didn't turn it over a lot. 1:08:02.200 --> 1:08:04.320 Now they had another twelve men, it only cost them 1:08:04.320 --> 1:08:06.560 a yard. It was down in the I think that 1:08:06.680 --> 1:08:08.560 was I know it sounds stupid. I think that was 1:08:08.600 --> 1:08:11.160 a big yard. Yeah, but still, you know, it's just 1:08:11.920 --> 1:08:14.720 you can't do that, you know, Dah's and that's what 1:08:14.840 --> 1:08:16.519 you know. Look, that's what the good teams don't do, 1:08:16.720 --> 1:08:19.000 you know. And that's I mean, Bill, no, Bill, it's 1:08:19.040 --> 1:08:21.919 just about good team, bad team. Bad teams make turnovers 1:08:21.960 --> 1:08:24.240 and don't make bad caddies at the end, bad caddying. 1:08:24.920 --> 1:08:27.680 So you know, I mean and and Bill says, blame me. 1:08:28.040 --> 1:08:30.720 But when I said it before the season, I was 1:08:30.800 --> 1:08:33.560 worried more about the defense than the offense. This is 1:08:33.680 --> 1:08:35.600 what I'm This is the kind of game. This is 1:08:35.640 --> 1:08:39.560 because they they put a certain stretched stress on a 1:08:39.720 --> 1:08:42.639 team like the Patriots, where you don't have the guy 1:08:42.760 --> 1:08:44.560 up front or the guy in the back where you 1:08:44.600 --> 1:08:47.679 can play man on man. And you know David Andrew 1:08:47.840 --> 1:08:51.679 not uh yeah, Andrew, Mark Mark Andrews is wide open 1:08:52.000 --> 1:08:55.000 because the Patriots are picking their poison. They're heavy upfront 1:08:55.080 --> 1:08:58.519 to try to limit Lamar and you know, they're you know, 1:08:59.280 --> 1:09:01.320 you know, playing that zone in the back, in the 1:09:01.479 --> 1:09:03.800 middle of the fields wide open for a tight end 1:09:04.160 --> 1:09:08.120 and he's good. Yeah, you know, like any tight end 1:09:08.160 --> 1:09:10.639 would have done that today, because that's what the Patriots 1:09:10.640 --> 1:09:13.799 were given up. They can't cover the whole field. Adrian 1:09:13.840 --> 1:09:16.479 Phillips had some problems earlier. I thought on Mark Andrews, 1:09:16.640 --> 1:09:19.080 and I was sorry. I think they went to him 1:09:19.080 --> 1:09:21.800 like thirteen times. They threw to him a lot today. Yeah, 1:09:21.880 --> 1:09:23.360 there was a point where they took him out a 1:09:23.400 --> 1:09:26.200 little bit, but eight catches on thirteen targets. Yeah, and 1:09:26.560 --> 1:09:30.120 I think in general, when they didn't connect he was there. 1:09:30.280 --> 1:09:32.120 I mean, they haven't covered pretty well a couple of times. 1:09:32.200 --> 1:09:35.240 Once down the sideline, I know what you're talking about. 1:09:35.280 --> 1:09:38.200 He kind of off he awkwardly threw his hands up, 1:09:38.760 --> 1:09:40.720 but I thought there was a couple that went off 1:09:40.800 --> 1:09:42.479 one and went off his shoulder as he was trying 1:09:42.520 --> 1:09:44.120 to slide down for some reason. I didn't know why 1:09:44.160 --> 1:09:46.880 he was sliding down. I thought they had chances to 1:09:46.920 --> 1:09:49.559 make more plays than they did, and I was surprised 1:09:49.600 --> 1:09:53.640 that he was as much of the as much of 1:09:53.720 --> 1:09:55.559 the offense as he was. You figured they would make 1:09:55.760 --> 1:09:58.120 the wide receivers beat them, and they didn't. It just 1:09:58.240 --> 1:10:00.479 feels like such a unique team too to face, Like, 1:10:00.680 --> 1:10:02.360 you know, it's like you judge your whole defense off 1:10:02.400 --> 1:10:04.280 of this. They're they're good. They've got a very good 1:10:04.600 --> 1:10:07.160 quarterback who just does two things so well, and just 1:10:07.640 --> 1:10:09.720 it's such a unique, weird kind of thing to deal with. 1:10:09.960 --> 1:10:12.519 But you know next time you'll see with like prepared 1:10:12.560 --> 1:10:16.040 to get beat similarly next week, but in a different way. 1:10:16.439 --> 1:10:18.840 It's not going to be like Aaron Rodgers running for 1:10:18.840 --> 1:10:20.840 one hundred yards. I'll be picking them apart and the 1:10:20.880 --> 1:10:24.040 blow up coverages are going to Yeah. Yeah, I want 1:10:24.080 --> 1:10:26.880 to thank cyber Reason, presenters of the Patriots postgame show. 1:10:26.960 --> 1:10:29.120 We all do. We all want to thank cyber Reason 1:10:29.200 --> 1:10:32.679 because you know, great defenders don't just play on the field. 1:10:33.439 --> 1:10:35.880 They're also protecting your company and data do so. 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Here's hardy now, but 1:13:46.920 --> 1:13:48.760 if you have any insight, we would welcome it on 1:13:48.800 --> 1:13:51.160 the Patriots postgame. Shitn't know who you're gonna run into 1:13:51.240 --> 1:13:55.360 in the post presented by cyber World sucks. All right, 1:13:55.720 --> 1:13:58.040 thank you, Rob A little Rob Action's all right, like 1:13:58.120 --> 1:14:00.320 it can fire up A quick thank you back here 1:14:00.400 --> 1:14:03.400 from Ian Rappaport saying mac Jones has X rays on 1:14:03.439 --> 1:14:05.560 his ankle following the game and they were negative. His 1:14:05.680 --> 1:14:10.080 ankle will continue to be evaluated. I would think, all right, positive, positive, 1:14:10.120 --> 1:14:13.919 it's on a broken ankle. But keys to recovery presented 1:14:13.960 --> 1:14:20.800 by Rob Who would lambeaux mac Jones or Brian Hoyer? 1:14:20.960 --> 1:14:29.400 Joe come on, yeah, come on Hoyer obviously where is he? Yeah, 1:14:30.280 --> 1:14:34.800 the practice squad, I guess it was. Yeah, all right, uh, 1:14:35.600 --> 1:14:38.120 five past five hundred. We'll hear from Bill Belichick here 1:14:38.120 --> 1:14:39.800 in a moment. Don't blink her or you'll miss it. 1:14:40.439 --> 1:14:42.120 It's a quick post game but we'll I get to 1:14:42.200 --> 1:14:43.600 that here in a little bit. But first we go 1:14:43.680 --> 1:14:46.360 to Ray in Texas. Ray, what's going on? You're on 1:14:46.439 --> 1:14:50.720 the post game show? Yo? It's pose. I try to 1:14:50.760 --> 1:14:53.439 get on the pregame show. But I guess I dropped 1:14:53.479 --> 1:14:56.639 the call earlier. Oh I'm sorry. Okay, it says Ray here, 1:14:56.760 --> 1:15:00.080 but this is Jose, Okay, I didn't get good a 1:15:00.280 --> 1:15:07.080 flush this time. Questions. I know the offense is basically 1:15:07.160 --> 1:15:11.479 what we're gonna see about him minus Jones, But that defense. 1:15:11.800 --> 1:15:14.559 Are we ever going to see a linebacking corps lanky 1:15:14.840 --> 1:15:19.559 really our second stream? I know that McClane was hurt, 1:15:19.640 --> 1:15:25.240 but and Dougger. No, you had Juwan Bentley, uh, Josh Uch, 1:15:25.520 --> 1:15:29.640 Anthony Jennings, Mack Wilson, Gelanni Tavai. Those guys were all 1:15:29.720 --> 1:15:31.559 out there today. I don't think you saw Longkie at 1:15:31.600 --> 1:15:34.680 all except for on special ties, right. I guess I 1:15:34.760 --> 1:15:36.599 saw him. He was towards the end of the game, 1:15:37.040 --> 1:15:39.920 maybe like at the very end, but I didn't. I 1:15:39.960 --> 1:15:43.320 didn't notice him out there. Um. I mean, I think 1:15:43.360 --> 1:15:45.600 you're right though. The defense, they didn't really come to 1:15:45.680 --> 1:15:49.040 play today the beginning. Dietrich wise really had a really 1:15:49.080 --> 1:15:54.120 good game, and then Judon really disappeared. Uh yeah, I 1:15:54.479 --> 1:15:58.280 think Judean was was probably getting credit for some things 1:15:58.439 --> 1:16:01.040 early on that he may have been doing later also. 1:16:01.200 --> 1:16:04.920 But you know, once Lamar was able to get up 1:16:05.120 --> 1:16:07.320 and get through the pocket and get past the line 1:16:07.360 --> 1:16:09.280 of scrimmage, there was one play there in the third 1:16:09.360 --> 1:16:13.479 quarter where he picked up ten yards after what should 1:16:13.520 --> 1:16:15.719 have after the point where he should have been tackled. 1:16:16.120 --> 1:16:18.000 And you know there were points like that. You know, 1:16:18.120 --> 1:16:20.519 that's no longer Judon's fault. You know, I think he 1:16:20.640 --> 1:16:24.080 was doing a good job of either either pursuing or 1:16:24.240 --> 1:16:26.720 hanging back and you know, and playing the role of 1:16:26.760 --> 1:16:29.040 spy on him to keep him from getting out. But 1:16:29.680 --> 1:16:31.880 a couple of those plays, especially in the second half, 1:16:32.280 --> 1:16:36.120 once he crossed the line of scrimmage. What can you say? 1:16:36.240 --> 1:16:38.439 I can I can beat up on the Patriots defense 1:16:38.520 --> 1:16:40.920 some more, which they deserve, or I can also give 1:16:40.960 --> 1:16:44.360 credit to a pretty special football player in Lamar Jackson. 1:16:44.439 --> 1:16:46.479 I think you got to do both. That's true, And 1:16:47.080 --> 1:16:49.519 I think that I would air on the side of 1:16:49.560 --> 1:16:52.000 saying Lamar Jackson's a really good player and he made 1:16:52.000 --> 1:16:55.320 a lot of plays. I just I want the opposite 1:16:55.360 --> 1:16:57.760 to be true too. Last week, the Patriots defense was 1:16:57.840 --> 1:17:02.559 dominant against a medioc are too bad quarterback in Mitchell Drubisky. 1:17:03.240 --> 1:17:06.720 But we don't do that, right, We don't say that 1:17:06.760 --> 1:17:08.640 the Patriots only looked good on defense because the other 1:17:08.680 --> 1:17:12.360 team couldn't make any plays. Right, So they're supposed to 1:17:12.400 --> 1:17:15.920 make plays. Yeah, you need to get at the end 1:17:15.960 --> 1:17:18.280 you couldn't get and they did. And I will say 1:17:18.320 --> 1:17:20.799 this as an improvement from last year. In these similar 1:17:20.880 --> 1:17:24.120 kind of situations, they stripped for Shot Bateman in the 1:17:24.200 --> 1:17:27.960 fourth quarter, down five, and then they got I think 1:17:28.000 --> 1:17:29.400 there were a couple of first downs, and then they 1:17:29.439 --> 1:17:31.800 forced a punt, which was a terrible punt by the way, 1:17:32.120 --> 1:17:35.080 It's like a twenty three yard punt, you know, to 1:17:35.400 --> 1:17:38.200 give them another chance, and they couldn't take advantage of 1:17:38.200 --> 1:17:44.200 the Patriots turned it over. Um. Sorry, well, yes, we 1:17:44.360 --> 1:17:46.560 are going to go to another phone call here, and 1:17:46.600 --> 1:17:48.439 then we're gonna get to Bill Belichick here in a 1:17:48.479 --> 1:17:50.240 couple of minutes, we'll go to Mike in North Carolina. 1:17:50.479 --> 1:17:52.920 Who's got a comparison here? Or is it a question? 1:17:53.000 --> 1:17:56.320 What is it Mike? Hey, guys, just a couple of points. 1:17:56.400 --> 1:17:59.320 So really, you know, Mac had his moments today, but 1:18:00.040 --> 1:18:03.479 turnovers offensively overall isn't gonna win you very many games, right, 1:18:03.800 --> 1:18:06.320 But I really want to highlight a couple of coaching things. One, 1:18:07.400 --> 1:18:10.679 Kendrick Bourne had twenty snaps today, Little Jordan had fifty three, 1:18:10.800 --> 1:18:13.200 and Little Jordan didn't show up on the stat sheet 1:18:13.320 --> 1:18:16.160 at all, which I guess he's a good run blocker. 1:18:16.240 --> 1:18:18.320 But yeah, come on, guys, like he's not giving us anny, 1:18:18.479 --> 1:18:20.560 but that's what he's out there for. He's basically a 1:18:20.680 --> 1:18:23.000 third tight end when he's on the field, or second 1:18:23.040 --> 1:18:27.680 tight end at times. Second ten. Yeah, but then on defensively, 1:18:27.840 --> 1:18:29.680 I mean coming into the game, we knew Jackson was 1:18:29.720 --> 1:18:32.799 going to be hard. It's hard to stop. But Andrews 1:18:32.920 --> 1:18:35.000 is his go to guy. He's the only one that 1:18:35.080 --> 1:18:37.320 beat us up all day and we couldn't have found 1:18:37.320 --> 1:18:38.880 an answer to try to take him away. It just 1:18:38.920 --> 1:18:40.559 seemed like he was just eating us up all day. 1:18:40.680 --> 1:18:43.120 We had no answers. Yeah. I thought Bateman made up 1:18:43.400 --> 1:18:45.559 big play in the last drive too, you know when 1:18:45.600 --> 1:18:50.760 he left Jonathan Jones standing still flat footed for a 1:18:50.880 --> 1:18:53.040 thirty five yard catching run. That was a big play 1:18:53.080 --> 1:18:56.160 to get that last touchdown drive started. And DuVernay I thought, 1:18:56.240 --> 1:19:00.439 made a tough touchdown catching the corner over Miles Bryan break. Yeah, 1:19:00.520 --> 1:19:02.559 great catch. So like they didn't have like the volume, 1:19:02.600 --> 1:19:05.280 they only had two catches each, but big place. They 1:19:05.360 --> 1:19:10.400 both made big plays. All right, Mike, thanks appreciate it. 1:19:10.720 --> 1:19:12.720 I appreciate the called. Oh Tony in Canada, were you 1:19:12.800 --> 1:19:15.880 heard from the pregame? A little postgame action here from Tony? 1:19:16.120 --> 1:19:21.240 What's up Tony? Guys? Well? Disappointed about the loss, of course, 1:19:21.880 --> 1:19:23.400 you know, the one good thing I guess that I 1:19:23.479 --> 1:19:25.439 was a little bit surprised about. You know how we 1:19:26.160 --> 1:19:28.599 used to say that whenever the pack Paths would get 1:19:28.680 --> 1:19:32.519 behind by a touchdown or two scores, it was over. Yeah. 1:19:32.600 --> 1:19:34.240 I never felt that way, you know. I felt like 1:19:34.320 --> 1:19:36.320 they were always in the game, that there was a chance. 1:19:36.360 --> 1:19:39.519 So I was hardened by that. But but ultimately it 1:19:39.600 --> 1:19:43.320 was the same result. It's true, But I mean it 1:19:43.400 --> 1:19:48.080 shows we're making progress, right because I guess we did. 1:19:48.400 --> 1:19:50.360 You know, I didn't really know what the path had 1:19:50.400 --> 1:19:55.000 in them. I didn't didn't know how confident was wasn't 1:19:55.040 --> 1:19:58.280 more often. I guess they showed a little bit more 1:19:58.320 --> 1:20:00.600 than what I expected. So I was hardened by that. 1:20:00.720 --> 1:20:02.960 But I can tell you end of the game, I 1:20:03.040 --> 1:20:05.599 forgot all about the loss. I saw maclift it off 1:20:05.640 --> 1:20:08.160 the field. I'm I don't know if you guys know, 1:20:08.280 --> 1:20:11.200 but I'm a big Mac Jones fan, and I can 1:20:11.240 --> 1:20:13.800 tell you I'm not hardened at all with the With 1:20:13.960 --> 1:20:16.920 the Brian Hoyer playing the rest of the down, I 1:20:16.960 --> 1:20:20.240 don't know what looks like, well, well that's race, we're negative. 1:20:20.280 --> 1:20:23.000 We'll see, um, we'll see what situation. What the situation 1:20:23.120 --> 1:20:25.360 is when we get some more clarity, probably start of 1:20:25.800 --> 1:20:28.360 next week. Look progress and if he comes in next 1:20:28.439 --> 1:20:31.519 week with his ankle taped up and you know, gutsie 1:20:31.600 --> 1:20:37.000 before if you take away his legs right now, I right, 1:20:37.120 --> 1:20:40.040 not too hopeful, No tough situation. I think. I still 1:20:40.080 --> 1:20:43.200 think there's a fair you know, average to better than 1:20:43.240 --> 1:20:46.760 average chance that Hoyer has to play next week. And 1:20:46.920 --> 1:20:49.200 in terms of the progress of the Patriots main today, yeah, 1:20:49.200 --> 1:20:52.479 they scored more points. The really the only thing I 1:20:52.520 --> 1:20:55.120 can truly say is I don't feel any worse about 1:20:55.160 --> 1:20:58.000 the team now than I did going into the game. 1:20:58.400 --> 1:21:01.120 I think they they don't go backwards. They didn't go backwards. 1:21:01.160 --> 1:21:05.639 But to point is that because he feels better, they're 1:21:05.760 --> 1:21:10.040 getting better. But like my point, I don't feel worse. 1:21:10.960 --> 1:21:12.680 It might have felt better about it, but that was 1:21:12.720 --> 1:21:15.479 the same pattern that we saw down the stretch last year. 1:21:15.680 --> 1:21:18.120 They're down two scores, they can't catch up. There, you 1:21:18.200 --> 1:21:20.479 go down two scores late in the game, they can't 1:21:20.520 --> 1:21:22.400 catch up. There was some there was some talk of that, 1:21:22.680 --> 1:21:25.040 you know, during the game, it's like this team isn't 1:21:25.080 --> 1:21:27.760 built to play from behind. I'm like, no kidding, you know, 1:21:28.000 --> 1:21:30.880 that's it's like, that's not news, that's you know, that's 1:21:30.920 --> 1:21:33.760 just that they've got a team, but that you know, 1:21:34.000 --> 1:21:36.559 it's it's largely the team that they had last year. 1:21:36.680 --> 1:21:38.680 And that team wasn't built to come from behind. To 1:21:38.800 --> 1:21:40.599 be fair, there aren't a lot of great teams at 1:21:40.600 --> 1:21:43.000 a quote unquote built to come from Just thinking that, 1:21:43.080 --> 1:21:44.720 but I didn't want to get into a whole thing. Yeah, 1:21:44.760 --> 1:21:47.080 if you were a great team, why are you behind? Yeah? 1:21:47.160 --> 1:21:49.400 Now I know there are three teams that can come 1:21:49.439 --> 1:21:52.320 back and manager come this year, We're gonna build our 1:21:52.360 --> 1:21:55.040 team to come from behind. There are certainly teams that 1:21:55.160 --> 1:21:57.320 are more you know more. You know, Kansas City's not 1:21:57.360 --> 1:21:59.360 gonna bat an eye if they fall down ten nothing 1:21:59.400 --> 1:22:01.960 in the first squar you know, the Bills. You know, 1:22:02.000 --> 1:22:04.040 there's a lot of teams that built to score points 1:22:04.160 --> 1:22:06.360 right right right, But you don't want to fall you 1:22:06.600 --> 1:22:08.880 fall behind. It's not the way you're built, and it 1:22:08.920 --> 1:22:11.519 would be an odd way to build a ball club. Yeah. 1:22:11.840 --> 1:22:13.320 I just think that was part of the buzz kill 1:22:13.360 --> 1:22:15.400 though today was that I I mean, I agree with 1:22:15.520 --> 1:22:18.360 Tony in the early going that it felt like defense 1:22:18.520 --> 1:22:21.040 is coming to play. There there were plays and you know, 1:22:21.200 --> 1:22:23.639 series where Lamar looked a little bit confused. It looked 1:22:23.640 --> 1:22:25.240 like they were keeping him in the pocket. He didn't 1:22:25.320 --> 1:22:27.280 quite know where to go. They weren't letting him scored out. 1:22:27.320 --> 1:22:29.679 And even when he was, they were managing the damage. 1:22:29.720 --> 1:22:31.600 And you know, the big place to Parker like you 1:22:31.720 --> 1:22:34.400 had some excitement of like are they turning a page here? 1:22:34.800 --> 1:22:36.439 You know, even when they came back with the field 1:22:36.479 --> 1:22:38.439 goal before halftime, it was like, man, these guys are 1:22:38.439 --> 1:22:41.120 showing some mental toughness. Like I keep saying, I think 1:22:41.120 --> 1:22:42.840 they did a lot of good things. I think the 1:22:42.960 --> 1:22:47.200 promises on paper today four hundred and some odd plus 1:22:47.560 --> 1:22:50.840 yards of offense, we haven't seen that in a while. Yeah, 1:22:50.880 --> 1:22:55.600 and that gives us promise a little and four turnovers, 1:22:55.720 --> 1:22:57.920 you know, so right, well, it's like, you know, it 1:22:58.000 --> 1:22:59.519 kind of goes to passing a little bit where it's like, well, 1:22:59.520 --> 1:23:01.280 if we could just eliminate the turnovers. But then at 1:23:01.320 --> 1:23:03.599 the same point, it's like they keep making the turnover, right, 1:23:04.160 --> 1:23:06.519 That's that's part of them right now. Yeah, that's who 1:23:06.600 --> 1:23:11.680 they are. Kobe, Kobe and Louisiana. What's up Kobe, Kobe? Hey, man, 1:23:11.760 --> 1:23:14.160 what's going on? How y'all doing today? Good. Thanks for 1:23:14.240 --> 1:23:16.800 calling in, Kobe. What do you got for us? Man? 1:23:17.040 --> 1:23:19.800 I'm a douarst man. I just think, man, in the 1:23:19.880 --> 1:23:22.439 fourth quarter, we gotta in secure. We can't be giving 1:23:22.479 --> 1:23:24.400 the ball the way light that yeah, to get some 1:23:24.479 --> 1:23:27.280 points on the on the board. And I really felt 1:23:27.320 --> 1:23:29.680 like when we head through the ball we went Matt 1:23:29.720 --> 1:23:32.080 through the interception, we were supposed to go get three points, 1:23:32.160 --> 1:23:33.680 and I think the beefing need to come out of 1:23:33.720 --> 1:23:35.760 there and play real good and get the ball bag. 1:23:35.840 --> 1:23:38.360 How y'all feel about the Well, certainly three would have 1:23:38.400 --> 1:23:40.599 been better than the turnover, but I don't think anyone 1:23:40.760 --> 1:23:43.360 was wanting them to settle for three points in that 1:23:43.560 --> 1:23:46.080 moment before the ball was turned over. I think everybody 1:23:46.160 --> 1:23:52.400 was thinking touchdown. Sure so yeah, but but in French time, 1:23:52.920 --> 1:23:56.680 the better team don't make mistakes, yes right, yes, right, 1:23:57.760 --> 1:24:00.639 And and that's that's what you're looking You're not looking 1:24:00.680 --> 1:24:02.519 at one of the better teams right now. You're looking 1:24:02.560 --> 1:24:04.200 at a team that's still finding this way and is 1:24:04.320 --> 1:24:06.639 still trying to right. Because I was thinking to myself, 1:24:06.920 --> 1:24:09.000 these are the kind of games back in the day, 1:24:09.560 --> 1:24:12.600 back and forth, you knew the Patriots were going to 1:24:12.720 --> 1:24:16.759 make the play to win it, you know, and that's 1:24:18.000 --> 1:24:19.960 you know, and that this is back to Tony in 1:24:20.080 --> 1:24:22.760 Canada's you know, when he said I felt better, and like, 1:24:24.600 --> 1:24:27.160 that's exactly what I was thinking of when Richad Bateman 1:24:27.240 --> 1:24:31.280 fumbled when Tom Brady was the quarterback. I put that 1:24:31.400 --> 1:24:33.760 seven on the board and said to myself, how much 1:24:33.840 --> 1:24:37.519 time is now left for the defense to hold on? 1:24:38.680 --> 1:24:41.720 And I never thought that way today, you know, I 1:24:42.240 --> 1:24:44.160 never just automatically put the seven on the board. I 1:24:44.160 --> 1:24:46.320 was like, oh, let's see how they take it. It 1:24:46.479 --> 1:24:49.040 was more like me flirting with myself, being like, maybe 1:24:49.080 --> 1:24:50.760 they'll just get to the point where they'll be one 1:24:50.840 --> 1:24:52.640 score down with a chance to take you know, like 1:24:52.720 --> 1:24:54.880 could they just get to that situation, you know, and 1:24:55.040 --> 1:24:56.880 and and it was it was close, you know, like 1:24:56.960 --> 1:24:59.080 they mean they get that two point conversion. It might 1:24:59.160 --> 1:25:01.200 have you know, you might you might have had a 1:25:01.240 --> 1:25:03.600 little bit of a different turnout, but then just not 1:25:03.840 --> 1:25:05.560 enough and too many mistakes, too late. Well, if you 1:25:05.560 --> 1:25:08.680 want positive chances, but they couldn't score. If you want 1:25:08.720 --> 1:25:10.960 to hear about the chances and the positivity in the progress, 1:25:11.000 --> 1:25:13.639 how many times they made it maybe into Baltimore Territory, 1:25:13.760 --> 1:25:16.080 tell us about that. Let's let's hear from head coach 1:25:16.160 --> 1:25:18.200 Bill Belichick. See what he has to say about it 1:25:18.280 --> 1:25:30.080 in his postgame press conference. Bill, defensively three touchdowns of 1:25:30.240 --> 1:25:35.000 seventy plus yards surrendered. Just defensively, you know, any what 1:25:35.080 --> 1:25:39.320 were the problems today? They had a couple of explosive plays, Um, 1:25:41.280 --> 1:25:45.479 the drives or seven yards. There wasn't any seventy yard plays. Yeah. Yeah, 1:25:46.080 --> 1:25:47.599 we had a couple of opportunities to get all filled 1:25:47.640 --> 1:25:49.320 on third down. They were good first and second down 1:25:49.360 --> 1:25:51.800 team and that's really where they hurt and moost. But 1:25:51.920 --> 1:25:55.120 they had a couple of third down conversions that kept 1:25:55.160 --> 1:25:57.840 those drives going. Um. You know, we had some stops, 1:25:57.880 --> 1:26:00.280 we had some turnovers, and then we weren't able to 1:26:01.040 --> 1:26:04.080 you know, capitalize on those and we got them. So um, 1:26:04.400 --> 1:26:10.760 it's really you know, just you know, total team football. Bill, 1:26:10.800 --> 1:26:12.800 you talked about the opportunities late in the game. Can 1:26:12.840 --> 1:26:15.520 you just talk about I guess the four late turnovers 1:26:15.880 --> 1:26:18.200 or really the dagger in this one. How upsetting that 1:26:18.400 --> 1:26:21.160 is to happen late in the game like that on offense. Yeah, 1:26:21.479 --> 1:26:24.400 that's yeah, I'm gonna win. Turn the ball over in 1:26:24.439 --> 1:26:26.280 the fourth quarter. Oh, you know you're behind, you gotta 1:26:26.280 --> 1:26:30.560 be aggressive, but um, still those Yah, we got to 1:26:30.560 --> 1:26:32.080 do a better job than we did on those plays, 1:26:32.120 --> 1:26:38.320 for sure, Bill. Thirty seconds before halftime, you guys manage 1:26:38.360 --> 1:26:40.240 to u you get some passes and I go for 1:26:40.320 --> 1:26:42.040 the field goal. The past couple of years, you guys 1:26:42.080 --> 1:26:45.519 have been pretty conservative in that particular area before halftime. 1:26:46.080 --> 1:26:48.680 What in particular is sort of different this year that 1:26:49.720 --> 1:26:53.760 led you too being more aggressive in that scenario. Yeah. 1:26:53.760 --> 1:26:58.840 I think each game in these situations different, So I'm 1:26:58.840 --> 1:27:01.479 not really sure what game situation referring to in the past, 1:27:01.560 --> 1:27:04.360 but it doesn't really matter. Today. We thought that we 1:27:04.479 --> 1:27:07.519 had had an opportunity to do that. Um, we're able 1:27:07.560 --> 1:27:10.000 to you know, get the ball and field goal range, 1:27:10.000 --> 1:27:12.080 get out of bounce on with no timeouts on the 1:27:12.479 --> 1:27:22.559 next last play, and then Nick made a good kick. Bill. 1:27:22.600 --> 1:27:24.800 What did the Ravens do in the second half there 1:27:24.800 --> 1:27:28.000 with the Lamar Jackson run game that led to them 1:27:28.040 --> 1:27:31.120 being as effective as they were? Yeah, I don't think 1:27:31.160 --> 1:27:34.360 there are any any new plays. Um, you know they ran, 1:27:35.280 --> 1:27:38.320 you know, they're secat plays and Lamar did a good 1:27:38.400 --> 1:27:40.680 job on you know, keeping some of those or not 1:27:40.880 --> 1:27:43.040 keeping you know, the option choices that he made, and 1:27:44.320 --> 1:27:45.920 you know, we lost leverage and missed a couple of 1:27:45.920 --> 1:27:53.200 tackles there. So combination of all those things, Bill, going 1:27:53.240 --> 1:27:54.880 for the two point try in that spot? What are 1:27:55.000 --> 1:27:57.280 some of the situational things you're weighing when making that call? 1:27:58.520 --> 1:28:01.560 What are what what are some the situational thing some 1:28:01.640 --> 1:28:03.920 of the factors you're considering when you're deciding whether they're 1:28:03.920 --> 1:28:06.920 not to go for two in that spot? Score and 1:28:06.960 --> 1:28:14.080 the time left in the game? Bill, Just what's your 1:28:14.240 --> 1:28:15.920 up shot through three games? Do you feel like this 1:28:16.160 --> 1:28:18.479 was just a couple turnovers here and there, a couple 1:28:18.520 --> 1:28:19.640 of players here and there. Do you feel like the 1:28:19.680 --> 1:28:25.800 team is progressing the way you like in all three phases? Well, 1:28:25.840 --> 1:28:28.040 I made my comments on today's game. I think that's 1:28:28.080 --> 1:28:36.720 really all that matters. Questions good, all right, thank you? 1:28:37.800 --> 1:28:40.920 Oh not as much positivity as I thought there on 1:28:41.000 --> 1:28:44.479 that last question. So there we go. That's your post 1:28:44.560 --> 1:28:47.200 game press conference there with the head coach, Bill Belichick. 1:28:47.880 --> 1:28:50.920 I say something real quick, Oh Disney, you have to 1:28:50.960 --> 1:28:53.840 be quick? Well, well, Bill at times can be short, 1:28:54.840 --> 1:28:56.839 you know with the media and with some of our questions. 1:28:56.880 --> 1:28:59.600 We you know, we kind of snicker and you know, 1:29:00.080 --> 1:29:02.479 poke fun at Bill. His answer on the two point 1:29:02.520 --> 1:29:05.120 conversion is that's that's all that needs to be said, 1:29:05.200 --> 1:29:08.040 Like what is what is the you're down to eleven, 1:29:08.280 --> 1:29:10.880 you score a touchdown, you want to get within three, 1:29:11.600 --> 1:29:13.840 So we're only chasing a field goal with five minutes 1:29:13.880 --> 1:29:16.519 left from the game or nine minute whatever the time left? 1:29:16.560 --> 1:29:19.000 It wasn't it was fourth quarter, of course, you go 1:29:19.120 --> 1:29:22.360 for two. Like what is they wanted advance analytics, they 1:29:22.400 --> 1:29:24.679 wanted some kind of like you know, when you really 1:29:24.720 --> 1:29:26.479 look at the odds break up. I mean, I guess 1:29:26.520 --> 1:29:29.599 there was there was still you know, uh, twelve thirty 1:29:29.680 --> 1:29:31.760 nine left, so there was still some time left in 1:29:31.800 --> 1:29:34.720 the game. But you definitely go for two there. What 1:29:35.720 --> 1:29:37.680 what else do you think that he was thinking? I 1:29:37.760 --> 1:29:39.720 don't I don't even know. I don't know why to 1:29:39.760 --> 1:29:41.560 ask that question. I mean, it was, it was it 1:29:41.720 --> 1:29:44.920 was obviously. Did anyone not anyone not think they were 1:29:45.200 --> 1:29:47.120 gonna go for two? There? Absolutely no, I mean, I 1:29:47.160 --> 1:29:49.040 mean that was the that was it. You go for two, 1:29:49.080 --> 1:29:50.479 that's when you go for it. That's a that's a 1:29:50.760 --> 1:29:53.240 I mean, you don't need a chart, you don't need 1:29:53.280 --> 1:29:55.799 an laminated sheet to say that's the that's the situation 1:29:55.840 --> 1:29:57.880 where you go for two right early on. You might 1:29:57.960 --> 1:30:03.559 not do it, but like Bill said, s or in time, yep, okay, 1:30:04.200 --> 1:30:05.960 all right, Well anyway, I just thought that that was it. 1:30:06.760 --> 1:30:10.160 It was one of those like short you know, Kurt answers, 1:30:10.320 --> 1:30:14.599 but I think it was that was warm all you needed, okay, 1:30:14.720 --> 1:30:17.400 all the information needed. I still don't know what that means, 1:30:17.439 --> 1:30:19.280 but all the information needed was right there, and that 1:30:20.120 --> 1:30:22.920 means I know you taught me that before you learned 1:30:22.960 --> 1:30:25.720 me that one. Just one quick email before we go 1:30:25.760 --> 1:30:27.559 to break here. It seems to me mac Jones never 1:30:27.680 --> 1:30:30.120 looks off dbs or defenders and is locked in on 1:30:30.240 --> 1:30:33.760 his primary target. It way too much. Uh I knows 1:30:33.840 --> 1:30:36.439 the defense was reading his eyes almost the entire game. 1:30:36.520 --> 1:30:38.280 I don't know how you picked that up from the 1:30:38.360 --> 1:30:41.040 TV set, but uh um, it's four K. What do 1:30:41.080 --> 1:30:44.880 you guys maybe, what do you guys think? I mean, 1:30:44.960 --> 1:30:50.880 excuse me, there's definitely I'm four k. Okay, definitely quite 1:30:50.880 --> 1:30:53.600 a few plays today where the ball just kind of 1:30:53.640 --> 1:30:56.240 seems like it's hanging and you see everybody running to 1:30:56.320 --> 1:30:58.080 where it's gonna be, and you kind of know there's 1:30:58.080 --> 1:30:59.880 just gonna be a moment of impact and you don't 1:30:59.880 --> 1:31:02.439 know who's gonna come down with it, whether it's us 1:31:02.560 --> 1:31:04.479 or them. You know, that's a few through a few 1:31:04.520 --> 1:31:08.080 of those. The the agal Or fumble. I thought he 1:31:08.200 --> 1:31:10.880 was like, oh geez, like he thought Agle was running 1:31:10.880 --> 1:31:13.240 down the field, and I think Fred thought it was picked. 1:31:13.360 --> 1:31:15.760 I thought it was. Yeah, I lost I lost track 1:31:15.800 --> 1:31:17.840 of it too. Yeah, I didn't even see it where 1:31:17.840 --> 1:31:19.840 you saw, but yeah, all of a sudden looked then 1:31:19.840 --> 1:31:23.000 there's Agile or just dashing right. I thought, I thought, 1:31:23.439 --> 1:31:26.439 you know, he didn't get it over that middle defense. 1:31:27.160 --> 1:31:30.439 The head Coach's press conferences brought to you by Microsoft. 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It was like 1:34:54.479 --> 1:34:57.439 a leaf like I got a phone call about that. 1:34:57.640 --> 1:34:59.280 I got a phone call in the middle of in 1:34:59.360 --> 1:35:04.640 the middle of the Patriots postgame showy cool story. All right, 1:35:04.720 --> 1:35:06.519 you know something, You're the one who put it. You're 1:35:06.560 --> 1:35:08.439 the one who put it. In a rejoin Morrell. So 1:35:09.880 --> 1:35:12.800 you buysh an Altar with a big touchdown? Duce, did 1:35:12.840 --> 1:35:17.160 you get traded? Oh he did? Yeah, Now we just 1:35:17.240 --> 1:35:19.799 got random red zone. It's just from it was highlights. 1:35:19.880 --> 1:35:21.880 That was a highlight off red zone from the one 1:35:21.920 --> 1:35:24.840 o'clock window. Red zone randomness. All right, So if it's 1:35:24.880 --> 1:35:29.320 two catches, was that ninety yards a touchdown? Wow? Sounds 1:35:29.320 --> 1:35:31.960 like he had one catch for very long Yeah, long 1:35:32.040 --> 1:35:34.600 touchdown to put the game away. Let's get back to 1:35:34.640 --> 1:35:42.680 the phone. Shall fists? Okay? Any any sorry? Sorry? No? 1:35:42.840 --> 1:35:45.479 Any any other fantasy football numbers you want to get 1:35:45.479 --> 1:35:52.040 to anything? Let's go to Mason in Florida. Mason, you're 1:35:52.040 --> 1:35:55.040 on the Patriots post game show. Patriots lose today, by 1:35:55.080 --> 1:35:57.400 the way, thirty seven twenty six at home and their 1:35:57.439 --> 1:36:01.479 home opener to the Ravens. What do you have for us? Mason? Yeah? 1:36:01.520 --> 1:36:04.160 I got like a two pronged questions. So I guess, 1:36:04.240 --> 1:36:07.160 first of all, obviously Max injury aside, I want to 1:36:07.200 --> 1:36:08.720 know what you guys thoughts are. I felt like he 1:36:08.840 --> 1:36:10.639 kept us in the game while at the same time 1:36:10.720 --> 1:36:18.520 throwing it away and time yeah right, and then defensively, 1:36:18.800 --> 1:36:21.120 is it just me or since we've gotten Matt judeon. 1:36:21.920 --> 1:36:24.719 He very much still picks the games. I mean, obviously, 1:36:24.920 --> 1:36:28.000 maybe not intentionally, but the games that he's on, he's on, 1:36:28.320 --> 1:36:31.120 and he's off very frequently. I don't know what your 1:36:31.120 --> 1:36:32.960 guys thoughts on there, but I'd love to hear it. 1:36:33.280 --> 1:36:35.360 Thank you. I think he's been pretty good so far. 1:36:35.439 --> 1:36:37.560 I think, yeah, I think he's I think he's on 1:36:37.840 --> 1:36:39.600 more than he's off. And I think he did have 1:36:40.479 --> 1:36:42.160 you know, it was I don't know if it was 1:36:42.200 --> 1:36:44.559 a decline last year. He just didn't maintain the same 1:36:44.680 --> 1:36:47.760 level early in the season that he did toward the end. 1:36:47.840 --> 1:36:50.960 But you could say that for large portions of the 1:36:51.040 --> 1:36:53.360 team last year. Yeah, I think. I mean, he's he's 1:36:53.400 --> 1:36:55.559 made some plays, but I mean I think you need 1:36:55.640 --> 1:36:57.400 more guys to make plays around him too. I mean, 1:36:57.479 --> 1:36:58.639 and you know, you saw it a little bit from 1:36:58.640 --> 1:37:01.320 teacher wise, but this is not enough. At a farmer, 1:37:01.400 --> 1:37:05.240 it's been kind of disappointing. He hasn't really taken that chip, 1:37:05.360 --> 1:37:07.160 you know, tough game for him though, Like you know, 1:37:07.280 --> 1:37:09.280 I mean, maybe next week he's able to you know, 1:37:09.360 --> 1:37:11.000 to get after Aaron Rodgers a little bit more, but 1:37:11.080 --> 1:37:13.400 it's not gonna make a living chasing around Lamar Jackson. 1:37:13.439 --> 1:37:15.799 But I think you need those guys like like Wilson 1:37:15.960 --> 1:37:19.280 and Dugger who didn't play. Of course, those guys have 1:37:19.400 --> 1:37:22.040 to start making making plays. And you know, especially in 1:37:22.080 --> 1:37:24.000 those key moments down the stretch where they just they 1:37:24.080 --> 1:37:26.680 kind of dried up and Ducker was quiet today. It 1:37:26.880 --> 1:37:32.040 was quiet. Yeah, It's like almost like you do sping Fresno, 1:37:32.240 --> 1:37:37.080 Hi high speed. What's going on? Hey, guys, say Fred, 1:37:37.120 --> 1:37:41.679 how's it hanging? Oh boy? Hanging? Okay? Right two inches 1:37:41.720 --> 1:37:45.320 from the ground. Um. That seems like a little seemed 1:37:45.320 --> 1:37:49.280 like inappropriate with mac Um. You know how we've been 1:37:49.360 --> 1:37:52.640 talking about like he kind of needs everything perfect in 1:37:52.800 --> 1:37:55.599 order to do is what he's supposed to be able 1:37:55.640 --> 1:37:58.960 to do. Um. I thought I kind of was watching 1:37:59.120 --> 1:38:01.640 Kings and I was thinking not that not that it 1:38:01.760 --> 1:38:06.160 was perfect, but it seemed like the pieces, at least 1:38:06.200 --> 1:38:08.599 on this Pigions team, we're kind of like operating maybe 1:38:08.640 --> 1:38:10.880 what their steeling could be. So far, like things were 1:38:10.920 --> 1:38:13.600 asked as perfect as Matt could hope for, and he 1:38:13.720 --> 1:38:15.840 still didn't seem to live up to that stereotype we 1:38:15.880 --> 1:38:17.040 have of him. And I don't know if you guys 1:38:17.080 --> 1:38:21.719 thought that way. I think that when I say perfect, 1:38:21.840 --> 1:38:25.559 I mean like the running game is going, the receivers 1:38:25.600 --> 1:38:28.720 are getting open, the defense is shutting down the other team. 1:38:28.880 --> 1:38:31.320 And he didn't get all of that today. I mean 1:38:31.400 --> 1:38:33.760 in his defense. Okay, all right, I mean they out 1:38:33.800 --> 1:38:35.880 thirty seven points. You tell me, Well, the biggest thing 1:38:35.920 --> 1:38:38.160 with with Mac two is, you know, if if his 1:38:38.560 --> 1:38:43.000 superpower is his you know, football mind and his cerebral 1:38:43.200 --> 1:38:47.320 understanding and ability to make decisions and redefense, that I'm 1:38:47.360 --> 1:38:49.799 not seeing that either. I'm seeing some very poor decisions 1:38:49.840 --> 1:38:54.120 out of Mac. So yeah, accurate, drop. I was thinking, 1:38:54.680 --> 1:38:59.280 you know, Parker was playing his role. Um, Parker was 1:38:59.520 --> 1:39:02.920 was very good today. Parker got open today. Yeah, yeah, 1:39:03.080 --> 1:39:05.439 I don't know. I just I thought that the offensive 1:39:05.479 --> 1:39:08.600 line did it a good job kind of creating a 1:39:08.680 --> 1:39:10.840 pocket for it, and I think they were just until 1:39:11.160 --> 1:39:13.000 I guess until it did it. But then then Mac 1:39:13.080 --> 1:39:16.160 makes that sort of brainless bill for the interception. Backing up, Yeah, 1:39:16.600 --> 1:39:20.080 you're right, that was a bad play, no question anyway, 1:39:20.160 --> 1:39:22.240 Thanks guys, have a good one. But I mean, thanks be. 1:39:23.600 --> 1:39:26.560 I thought the past protection was just okay. Today, I 1:39:26.640 --> 1:39:29.320 mean he got sacked three times, he ran for his 1:39:29.439 --> 1:39:32.760 life on a number of other plays, Like I thought 1:39:32.800 --> 1:39:34.519 he made more plays with his legs today than he 1:39:34.600 --> 1:39:38.240 has it anytime during his short career. I mean, Mac, dude, 1:39:38.280 --> 1:39:41.040 you usually have the blitz numbers, how many, what percentage 1:39:41.080 --> 1:39:44.720 did the Ravens. I haven't seen the Ravens blitz numbers yet, um, 1:39:44.840 --> 1:39:46.599 just just the other side of it. But yeah, I'll 1:39:46.640 --> 1:39:49.040 keep an eye up for it. I'm curious what they 1:39:49.160 --> 1:39:51.160 kind of did to him, but I don't recall too many. 1:39:51.200 --> 1:39:53.960 I know that the interception that Humphrey had was a 1:39:53.960 --> 1:39:57.479 blitz that was definitely a guy from the secondary came 1:39:57.560 --> 1:40:02.160 off the edge. U one email here wondering if Lamar 1:40:02.280 --> 1:40:05.760 Jackson mc jones traded uniforms today, who's the undisciplined guy 1:40:05.760 --> 1:40:07.519 and who's the guy who's supposed to keep it all together? 1:40:07.960 --> 1:40:10.600 This is this is to me a great example of 1:40:10.640 --> 1:40:13.800 a five year guy versus a second year guy. You know, 1:40:14.000 --> 1:40:17.320 Lamar it certainly had some issues early on, but hey, 1:40:17.479 --> 1:40:20.120 he's got a lot more just you know, raw talent, 1:40:20.240 --> 1:40:23.040 his ability to pick up yards on his own, and 1:40:23.439 --> 1:40:25.080 he's starting to look like a guy who's been in 1:40:25.120 --> 1:40:27.000 the league for a few years. And that's I mean, 1:40:27.080 --> 1:40:28.680 that's the thing. It's just he's got a well to 1:40:28.800 --> 1:40:30.960 go to. And you talk about, you know, what's Max's strength. 1:40:31.080 --> 1:40:33.680 It's like, you know, you can talk about max intelligence 1:40:33.800 --> 1:40:35.600 or processing and all that kind of stuff, but at 1:40:35.640 --> 1:40:37.439 the end of the day, a guy who runs a 1:40:37.520 --> 1:40:39.519 frigging four two forty and can just all of a 1:40:39.520 --> 1:40:42.479 sudden tuck it and outrun everybody, Like, it's just there's 1:40:42.479 --> 1:40:44.800 no way to count for that, and he'll always have 1:40:44.960 --> 1:40:47.160 that speed. And you know, now as his throwing ability 1:40:47.200 --> 1:40:49.640 has kind of come along again, you know you just 1:40:49.720 --> 1:40:51.479 saw you saw glimpses of it. Oh, this is what 1:40:51.560 --> 1:40:53.280 they're trying to do. Keep him in the pocket. He 1:40:53.320 --> 1:40:55.240 doesn't quite know where to go. He has nowhere to 1:40:55.360 --> 1:40:57.479 run out, and you know they have those moments, but 1:40:57.720 --> 1:40:59.560 they just they can't. They can't sustain it through it. 1:41:00.320 --> 1:41:02.120 It's hard to do. I mean, speaking of good running, 1:41:02.160 --> 1:41:05.080 I wasn't here earlier. I assumed that you had Stevenson 1:41:05.160 --> 1:41:07.720 on your good list, which, yeah, because he had some 1:41:07.840 --> 1:41:10.040 really nice runs. Yeah, I would agree. I thought he 1:41:10.160 --> 1:41:12.840 gave them a lift. I would just say the one thing, like, 1:41:13.080 --> 1:41:16.200 I know that's not the point of the emails comment, 1:41:16.320 --> 1:41:19.479 but Lamar Jackson has never really been a mistake prone quarterback. 1:41:19.680 --> 1:41:22.160 He's not the greatest pure passer that I've ever seen. 1:41:22.280 --> 1:41:24.759 I tell you what, He's only been in double digits 1:41:24.800 --> 1:41:26.640 and interceptions once in his whole career, and that was 1:41:26.680 --> 1:41:29.080 when he threw thirteen. It's not like he threw one 1:41:29.479 --> 1:41:31.400 in garbage time. This year. A little more zip on 1:41:31.439 --> 1:41:35.160 those intermediate throws that I then I remember seeing in 1:41:35.560 --> 1:41:37.599 even last year. It gets a little loose. And there 1:41:37.600 --> 1:41:39.720 were times today that I thought the elbow drops and 1:41:39.800 --> 1:41:43.040 the ball goes up, you know. And he's still there's 1:41:43.200 --> 1:41:46.679 like a little loose at times. But like I said, 1:41:46.760 --> 1:41:48.880 I don't think he's ever really been a hugely mistake 1:41:48.920 --> 1:41:51.400 prone quarterback. And feel free to join us for the 1:41:51.600 --> 1:41:54.000 entire postgame show, Freddy, you don't have to wander in, 1:41:54.520 --> 1:41:57.439 you know, ten fifteen minutes in. I stay till the 1:41:57.600 --> 1:41:59.840 end of the game, and then I have to clean up. 1:42:00.000 --> 1:42:03.320 And there's some things. What traffic they have you cleaning 1:42:03.439 --> 1:42:05.640 up now and picking up after other people have a 1:42:05.720 --> 1:42:07.920 lot of things. You've never seen my setup in the 1:42:08.000 --> 1:42:14.640 press box. Pick them all off when I'm done. I 1:42:14.720 --> 1:42:17.400 can't leave my toys out. What do you have up there. 1:42:17.560 --> 1:42:23.320 I have things, satellite technology, things, technology at things. Yes, 1:42:23.680 --> 1:42:26.240 I love technology. I have to clean it up when 1:42:26.240 --> 1:42:31.759 I'm done. Okay, okay, uh sitting, I listened to Bill Okay, Courtney, 1:42:31.800 --> 1:42:36.240 and Houston says, pull the plug. If Mac is down 1:42:36.400 --> 1:42:39.880 for real time, does it make any sense for Craft 1:42:39.960 --> 1:42:42.720 to pull the plug on the Bill Mac tenure and 1:42:42.840 --> 1:42:45.840 start fresh with over thirty million in cap space next 1:42:45.880 --> 1:42:49.360 season for the Patriots, I'm assuming we win less than 1:42:49.520 --> 1:42:52.040 seven games with Mac or Hoyer. Again, we need to 1:42:52.080 --> 1:42:55.720 reiterate the X rays were negative. But you know, you 1:42:55.800 --> 1:42:58.200 start dealing to high ankle stuff and all the reports 1:42:58.240 --> 1:43:02.320 I'm hearing from Mac going down the hallway, like the screaming, 1:43:02.720 --> 1:43:07.200 crying like in some real pain and high ankle. High 1:43:07.200 --> 1:43:10.240 ankle's nasty. High ankle can linger. High ankle can last 1:43:10.280 --> 1:43:12.680 four months. I mean, even if he can play, how 1:43:12.760 --> 1:43:14.920 confident are you that he's going to be healthy enough 1:43:15.000 --> 1:43:19.080 to deliver a road win in lambeau Field for you know, 1:43:19.200 --> 1:43:20.880 for the Packers, given on how they look. I mean, 1:43:20.920 --> 1:43:24.479 it's just the odds are static. On our show during 1:43:24.479 --> 1:43:26.920 the week, you know, somebody asked, like if the Patriots 1:43:26.960 --> 1:43:29.920 have a top pick and they have a quarterback available, 1:43:31.000 --> 1:43:33.599 should they pull the trigger? And most of our listeners 1:43:33.640 --> 1:43:35.920 were like, yeah, I think I heard that. Yeah, Yeah, 1:43:36.360 --> 1:43:38.360 I heard you guys doing some good emay talk too, 1:43:38.479 --> 1:43:41.519 until Due shut it down and said let's start talking football. Wow, 1:43:41.880 --> 1:43:44.800 that was unbelievable. Due's getting things back. We were doing 1:43:45.040 --> 1:43:47.920 emay talk and then we realized we were live video. 1:43:48.840 --> 1:43:52.040 We didn't know we were. Yeah, we had a show 1:43:52.120 --> 1:43:54.639 this week that was on YouTube. It was live on YouTube, 1:43:54.680 --> 1:43:57.200 and we had no idea you're being filmed. For me. 1:43:57.400 --> 1:43:59.120 First of all, I spent the entirety of the show 1:43:59.160 --> 1:44:01.680 being made fun of from mowing a pizza at the 1:44:01.720 --> 1:44:03.400 midway point. You see all the video they pulled to 1:44:03.520 --> 1:44:06.960 that slow motion stuff here. That's what Nick does. He 1:44:07.080 --> 1:44:08.840 does that. There was a guy who came up to 1:44:08.920 --> 1:44:12.360 me at the at the James White event yesterday and said, 1:44:12.360 --> 1:44:15.360 you guys are on YouTube now. I'm like, okay, whatever, 1:44:15.720 --> 1:44:18.040 And he must have had me confused thinking I was 1:44:18.360 --> 1:44:20.599 here during but during the show, I'm like giving Paul 1:44:20.720 --> 1:44:23.240 signals like you know right, like and I didn't know 1:44:23.320 --> 1:44:25.400 you were a big gesture to each other. I do 1:44:25.479 --> 1:44:27.559 a lot of what nobody knows what this. I can't 1:44:27.560 --> 1:44:29.120 be left to my own devices. I do a lot 1:44:29.160 --> 1:44:30.800 of dumb things. I don't want to be on TV 1:44:30.880 --> 1:44:33.360 if I don't know. It's just the huge I roll 1:44:34.840 --> 1:44:38.280 pizza and two bites exactly. If I had known that, 1:44:38.400 --> 1:44:42.240 I would have at least taken three just rolled it 1:44:42.320 --> 1:44:44.040 up to it right down. It seems like something they 1:44:44.120 --> 1:44:45.800 would have told you about ahead of time. I don't 1:44:45.800 --> 1:44:50.479 know they didn't. Uh surprise, all right, here's Peter and Maryland. Uh. 1:44:50.760 --> 1:44:53.599 My biggest concern is Mac being out for extended time 1:44:53.680 --> 1:44:55.960 will lead to Bill having a built in excuse to 1:44:56.040 --> 1:45:00.560 continue using the franchise to prot to provide career for 1:45:00.720 --> 1:45:04.400 his kids and favorite Lackey's got. These emails are brutal. Yeah, 1:45:04.439 --> 1:45:07.439 they are the moves he made off season on the whole, 1:45:07.680 --> 1:45:11.439 indefensable in my opinion. Goes on to talk about the 1:45:11.479 --> 1:45:14.760 coaching staff, given that Bill seems adverse to bringing in 1:45:14.840 --> 1:45:18.000 elite talent, how exactly is this team supposed to become 1:45:18.080 --> 1:45:20.840 relevant again? Until the Crafts step in and hit the 1:45:21.120 --> 1:45:25.400 reset button. You know that this was a topic of conversation, 1:45:25.960 --> 1:45:27.760 you know, going into the year when it looks like, wow, 1:45:27.800 --> 1:45:30.000 this could be this could be rough. You know, what 1:45:30.120 --> 1:45:33.759 would it take for for ownership to consider a coaching change. 1:45:34.200 --> 1:45:37.400 And we were split as to like how bad a 1:45:37.479 --> 1:45:39.800 season would have to be, and even if one bad 1:45:39.880 --> 1:45:42.439 season would be enough, we are talking about Bill Belichick. 1:45:42.680 --> 1:45:45.519 That's a huge decision. Wow, that's I mean. And if 1:45:45.640 --> 1:45:49.760 Mac missus considerable time and during that stretch, they you know, 1:45:50.120 --> 1:45:52.880 completely fall out of the playoff. Is it fair to 1:45:53.000 --> 1:45:55.479 judge anybody? You know? That's like one of those things 1:45:55.560 --> 1:45:57.320 they'll go back and point to two thousand and eight 1:45:57.360 --> 1:46:00.479 and said you didn't need your guy then why you know, Look, 1:46:00.800 --> 1:46:04.680 I'm not they make the playoffs. Uh, they did not 1:46:04.920 --> 1:46:08.080 know right, and they lost seven more games than they 1:46:08.120 --> 1:46:12.160 did the year before five. I forgot that. This is 1:46:12.240 --> 1:46:15.040 one of the things that irks Paul went in the no. 1:46:15.200 --> 1:46:19.439 But I think they deserve a lot of credit for 1:46:19.640 --> 1:46:23.640 not folding right losing their their franchise quarterbacks. There's two. 1:46:23.640 --> 1:46:25.160 In one hand, I think they deserve a lot of 1:46:25.200 --> 1:46:27.200 credit for that. On the other hand, I think they've 1:46:27.200 --> 1:46:30.839 given credit for not having slipped while losing the quarterback, 1:46:31.280 --> 1:46:35.360 and they slipped precipitously, and not only that, it clearly 1:46:35.479 --> 1:46:37.680 was one of those years that was odd in the 1:46:37.760 --> 1:46:40.439 AFC that there were so many teams that had good 1:46:40.479 --> 1:46:42.759 It was like you either had like ten or eleven 1:46:42.840 --> 1:46:46.679 wins or three. It was an odd year, like eleven 1:46:46.760 --> 1:46:51.000 and five is great some years. Other years it's not 1:46:51.040 --> 1:46:53.120 good enough to make the playoffs, right, And I mean, 1:46:53.160 --> 1:46:55.000 I think more context of that too, is that I 1:46:55.040 --> 1:46:56.680 don't think it's that out of the realm of what 1:46:56.760 --> 1:46:59.200 we've been watching that they haven't really been able to 1:46:59.280 --> 1:47:01.880 beat good teams, you know, and that was that and 1:47:02.000 --> 1:47:06.879 that they beat the Dolphins in Miami and like November 1:47:07.080 --> 1:47:09.479 and that was probably their best win. And then otherwise 1:47:09.520 --> 1:47:11.960 you're losing the Chargers to the Steelers, you lost an 1:47:11.960 --> 1:47:13.880 overtime to the Jets, you know, and the same thing. 1:47:14.240 --> 1:47:17.519 Terrible easy schedule as well as another another factor of that, 1:47:18.360 --> 1:47:19.960 you know, And I think it kind of feeds into 1:47:20.000 --> 1:47:21.760 some of this Max stuff where you know, people call 1:47:21.880 --> 1:47:24.720 us up they're so afraid of, you know, finishing eight 1:47:24.800 --> 1:47:26.559 and eight or finishing in the middle and just bad 1:47:26.680 --> 1:47:28.600 enough not to get a good draft pick. And you know, 1:47:28.680 --> 1:47:30.120 in some ways, I feel like that's kind of what 1:47:30.360 --> 1:47:32.640 Mac is is the quarterback. He's not so bad that 1:47:32.720 --> 1:47:35.080 you're gonna have a two three win season, But is 1:47:35.120 --> 1:47:36.960 he gonna get you over the ten win hump? That's 1:47:37.040 --> 1:47:39.479 the question. I've got a shoebox at home, just full 1:47:39.520 --> 1:47:42.280 of tiny pieces of folded paper things that irk Paul, 1:47:42.360 --> 1:47:47.000 and in them you'll find uh Patriots or Brady's bad 1:47:47.160 --> 1:47:49.840 season in two thousand and two. That'll set you off. 1:47:50.600 --> 1:47:53.600 Regular PEPSI led the league in touchdown passes, thank you, 1:47:53.920 --> 1:47:57.360 and the Patriots great season in two thousand and eight. Yeah, 1:47:57.479 --> 1:47:59.320 that one is a little less, but yeah, you're right, 1:47:59.360 --> 1:48:01.160 you're right to put it in that folder. Okay, it's 1:48:01.160 --> 1:48:03.720 a shoe box, all right. Shoe box. Yeah, it's a 1:48:03.760 --> 1:48:05.640 shoe box. I have a shoe box of things that 1:48:05.880 --> 1:48:09.080 what Oh my god, let's shots later, heading to the 1:48:09.160 --> 1:48:12.800 locker room. Let's let's wrap things up here. Final thoughts 1:48:12.840 --> 1:48:15.120 on the Patriots home opener here, of course, it's a 1:48:15.200 --> 1:48:18.160 loss to the Bravens thirty seven twenty six, Fred any 1:48:18.240 --> 1:48:24.280 any parting thoughts? Are we done already? Yeah? Yeah, um, 1:48:24.800 --> 1:48:28.240 I'm with you. I don't feel any worse about the 1:48:28.320 --> 1:48:32.000 team after this loss than they did going in. You know, 1:48:32.280 --> 1:48:36.280 totally agree, totally agree, But that's said. I predicted eight 1:48:36.439 --> 1:48:39.080 nine this year, So they're gonna lose games. Yeah, yeah, yea. 1:48:39.280 --> 1:48:41.560 You know, for me, it's all just about Mac and 1:48:41.800 --> 1:48:43.760 his injury, and you know, if he has to sit 1:48:43.800 --> 1:48:47.160 out some games, how's that going to derail them? I'm 1:48:47.439 --> 1:48:49.479 interested to see Howyer, But I get when people are 1:48:49.560 --> 1:48:52.719 talking about Zappie. You're interested to see Hoyer. Why because 1:48:52.760 --> 1:48:54.839 I'm curious what this looks like with a different quarterback. 1:48:54.920 --> 1:48:58.400 Just that, I mean, I'm curious. I have no interest 1:48:58.640 --> 1:49:04.439 in that. I literally I'd rather see Yeah serious, Bailey, No, 1:49:04.520 --> 1:49:07.280 I get it because as as good, even if it 1:49:07.360 --> 1:49:11.040 were better, there's no future in it, right right, But 1:49:11.160 --> 1:49:12.880 then then maybe there's no future in Mac if it 1:49:12.920 --> 1:49:18.200 looks better without him. Yeah, I have I share is 1:49:18.240 --> 1:49:20.240 trying to shut the door on Mac. Now. I share 1:49:20.360 --> 1:49:24.840 Mike's um sort of interest in seeing if it looks 1:49:24.880 --> 1:49:26.519 any different, because I think there were times in the 1:49:26.520 --> 1:49:29.519 summer that it did look different for the better. I 1:49:30.080 --> 1:49:33.200 blow that off for preseason and experienced quarterback in preseason 1:49:33.280 --> 1:49:37.599 is going to rip apart the soft game playing list defenses. 1:49:37.800 --> 1:49:39.679 But Hoya has been in the league for fifty years 1:49:39.840 --> 1:49:42.519 and I've seen him make the same mistakes Mac mate today. 1:49:42.680 --> 1:49:46.120 So I don't. I agree. And the thing that would 1:49:46.320 --> 1:49:49.200 override that to me is I don't want to see 1:49:49.240 --> 1:49:52.760 Hoyer because this is all I like. Let's let's just say, 1:49:52.960 --> 1:49:54.880 for argument, say Horrier comes in and has to play 1:49:54.920 --> 1:49:56.240 five games and they go five and oh when he 1:49:56.320 --> 1:49:59.519 lights it up, doesn't do anything for the overall progression 1:49:59.560 --> 1:50:03.120 of the team, right, like in twenty twenty two. It's great, 1:50:03.520 --> 1:50:06.400 but it doesn't do anything to help your problem. All right, 1:50:06.439 --> 1:50:09.000 That's why I'm not really interested in seeing it. Uh. 1:50:09.400 --> 1:50:11.559 Thank you to everybody for involved in both the pre 1:50:11.760 --> 1:50:15.839 and postgame show. Next week will be a four twenty 1:50:15.920 --> 1:50:19.240 five kick in Green Bay as the Patriots and whoever 1:50:19.320 --> 1:50:21.719 ends up playing quarterback for them next week. We'll certainly 1:50:21.760 --> 1:50:23.720 be keeping an eye Am Mac Jones this week and 1:50:24.640 --> 1:50:28.000 his evaluation on his injury. After the game, we will 1:50:28.000 --> 1:50:29.960 be here to talk about everything with you, starting at 1:50:30.120 --> 1:50:33.920 let's say two o'clock after your music show. What is 1:50:33.960 --> 1:50:36.760 your music show? Uh, this is where things get a 1:50:36.760 --> 1:50:39.840 little hinky. I'll beyond two places at once next Sunday 1:50:39.840 --> 1:50:42.439 at that time, but it'll be all right, okay. Anybody 1:50:42.520 --> 1:50:45.439 say that's tirade by Ken Dorsey After the Bills game 1:50:46.439 --> 1:50:50.360 he looked like twelve year old Paul Parolo when you 1:50:50.439 --> 1:50:53.360 get throwing stuff around, or Mac Jones when you guys 1:50:53.439 --> 1:50:55.120 hear how you look at it, when's a little Patriots 1:50:55.200 --> 1:51:00.200 unfiltered back on again, you guys do today? Today were 1:51:00.439 --> 1:51:02.400 at where are we landing? Josh Allen was forty two 1:51:02.479 --> 1:51:04.400 for sixty three for four hundred yards and they only 1:51:04.400 --> 1:51:08.080 scored nineteen points. Unbelievable. Wow, wow, Yeah, something happened there 1:51:08.200 --> 1:51:11.640 all right, So until all that happens. Final score for 1:51:11.720 --> 1:51:16.400 the final time here Patriots twenty six, Baltimore thirty seven. 1:51:16.479 --> 1:51:20.360 That's for you, Paul. To everyone, thank you for listening 1:51:20.479 --> 1:51:26.120 and watching. 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