Speaker 1: Well, this is technical director Ashton. It looks like I'm
Speaker 1: the only one that showed up on a classic Saturday
Speaker 1: Second Day update. So I'm gonna leave my Venmo code
Speaker 1: at the bottom. If anyone wants to send me some
Speaker 1: extra cash, that would be awesome. I need a raise.
Speaker 2: Imagine being married for a couple decades and then it
Speaker 2: doesn't work out. That sucks, and now you have no
Speaker 2: choice but to try dating apps. Oh, it's the first
Speaker 2: time you've ever seen matchmaking apps before, and that's when
Speaker 2: you get.
Speaker 1: The best advice ever.
Speaker 2: Three words, plenty of fish sarcastic. Here, one of our
Speaker 2: listeners tried it, and I don't think you're gonna believe
Speaker 2: what happened on her very first to meet up. It's
Speaker 2: definitely plenty of fish ish and she's gonna spill the
Speaker 2: ish when we hear from her in your second date update.
Speaker 3: Next, Brook and Jeffrey in the morning Second Date Update.
Speaker 2: Imagine getting back on the dating apps after being married
Speaker 2: for years.
Speaker 4: Scary.
Speaker 5: That would be weird.
Speaker 1: Now what does that look like?
Speaker 5: Yeah, my parents.
Speaker 2: In other words, horror. It's worse than the movie Saw five.
Speaker 2: And I'm not even talking about the writing in that.
Speaker 6: Oh, my god, I forgot there's like ten of those.
Speaker 2: Yeah scripts not great, and you're just jumping into a
Speaker 2: scary new world that maybe you've never even really experienced before.
Speaker 2: And we've got a woman who recently can involved back
Speaker 2: into the dating pool and needs a little help from
Speaker 2: us today. Her name is Vanessa, So Vanessa, welcome.
Speaker 1: To the show.
Speaker 4: Thanks guys, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 5: It sounds like your experience is more of a belly
Speaker 5: flop than a canniball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know everything about your date yet.
Speaker 2: Why don't we start from the beginning and tell us
Speaker 2: who's this person that you met recently online?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 4: I met a guy on plenty Fish and I am
Speaker 4: recently divorced. I've been married for years. I got married
Speaker 4: very young.
Speaker 5: So had you ever done dating apps prior to this?
Speaker 7: Never.
Speaker 4: I've been married for a long time and so I'm
Speaker 4: kind of getting out there again. And it's terrifying, it
Speaker 4: really is. You see all these horrible stories on the
Speaker 4: news and you thinking, oh my god, this person is
Speaker 4: serial killer? Is it's too good to be true?
Speaker 6: What kind of dating app are you on?
Speaker 8: Though?
Speaker 6: Are you swiping? Or are you like.
Speaker 9: On one of those real sophisticated ones where you fill
Speaker 9: out a bio.
Speaker 5: She said plenty of fish, So I don't know about sophisticated.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my friends were like, plenty of fish is good,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, okay.
Speaker 1: So oh yeah, I can't believe you actually trust those people.
Speaker 1: But that's interesting. So you met a guy what's his name?
Speaker 4: His name is Keith?
Speaker 5: Okay, the first guy you've matched with and got out with.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, oh wowk wow.
Speaker 1: That's a big, big move. So what attracted you to Keith?
Speaker 7: I got a.
Speaker 4: Goodbbe from him, and you know, he likes dogs. He
Speaker 4: kind of in a similar situation where he said he's
Speaker 4: getting back out there and we talked a little bit online,
Speaker 4: so I kind of felt good about him.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, So how long did it take? I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm assuming you guys met up in real life.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah? Yeah? So he was really sweet. He was like,
Speaker 4: where do you want to go? And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's nice, and so I suggested the botanical gardens.
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, it's funny you said that.
Speaker 6: I was like ooh, And then I'm like, I'm the
Speaker 6: only guy.
Speaker 5: That's probably nothing says sexy like some orchids.
Speaker 1: And things get hot by the reflection pool.
Speaker 5: I'm sure it is kind of humid in those places.
Speaker 4: You didn't have a lot of plants, and his like photos,
Speaker 4: and I was just kind of like, well, maybe he
Speaker 4: knows about plants, so I thought maybe he would like
Speaker 4: it too.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, definitely spice up the conversation with some exciting plant talk.
Speaker 6: So like a museum.
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like walking is less awkward than
Speaker 3: sitting at a bar'l.
Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of other people around, and
Speaker 4: you got plants.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, because you're worried about the serial killer angle
Speaker 5: of it all, exactly.
Speaker 6: Yeah, He's like, we're going to a butterfly farm or something.
Speaker 2: This is your first date that you've been on since
Speaker 2: you were married. Yeah, you must have been nervous. How
Speaker 2: did it go?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 4: I mean I was pleasantly surprised. He was dressed a
Speaker 4: bit more casually than I was. But we we strolled
Speaker 4: around and we discussed flowers and I gave him some
Speaker 4: facts about orchids, even little things that I've learned over
Speaker 4: the years, you know, just conversation starters.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 5: Do you think that you were yourself on the date? Yeah?
Speaker 10: I do.
Speaker 4: I was surprisingly relaxed. I mean I was super nervous
Speaker 4: at first, but I calmed down as soon as he like,
Speaker 4: you know, I just got a good vibe from him.
Speaker 9: You're in like a pleasant environment that you're comfortable with,
Speaker 9: just right, That's awesome.
Speaker 4: We didn't just talk about orchids, well no, I mean
Speaker 4: there was lots of other plants. We talked about a
Speaker 4: lot of that, and I mean there was this one
Speaker 4: really embarrassing moment he knocked over a decorative like water. Oh,
Speaker 4: it broke, and I was like in the employees were
Speaker 4: like oh. I was like, oh my gosh. So I
Speaker 4: just made a joke that he was like dangerous to plants,
Speaker 4: and I'm like hoping he didn't get offended. I don't know.
Speaker 6: I'm sure, I'm sure.
Speaker 5: So that's the one thing you found that went wrong
Speaker 5: with your date is that you may have offended him
Speaker 5: with your plant joke.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just scared that I offended him. But he
Speaker 4: seems okay. We sat down and we got tea from
Speaker 4: the little stand, and the date ended really really well.
Speaker 4: I thought I maybe he walked me to my car,
Speaker 4: gave me a hug. I told him I had a
Speaker 4: great time this is really wholesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a little too wholesome for the show.
Speaker 8: I know.
Speaker 4: I'm a little worried. I'm like, maybe this is too
Speaker 4: good to be true. But I mean we had a
Speaker 4: nice time and I told him, I said, look, I
Speaker 4: would love to see you again and just kind of
Speaker 4: do something similar or maybe go out to eat or
Speaker 4: something like that. But I haven't heard from him, and
Speaker 4: I'm just kind of upset right now.
Speaker 9: May have been out of the dating game for a while,
Speaker 9: but you have caught up so quickly. You're immediately on
Speaker 9: the apps and when things go aroun you.
Speaker 6: Come right to us. That's what everybody does and it's
Speaker 6: dating nowadays.
Speaker 4: Good job, Thank you. I'm just like I said, I'm
Speaker 4: learning to get back out there. And I mean it worked.
Speaker 4: Keith scenario. If if I did screw up, I did
Speaker 4: do something wrong because I'm so new to the dating,
Speaker 4: you know game again that maybe you know, if I
Speaker 4: made a mistake, I can learn from it. It could
Speaker 4: be a learning moment I can move on and improve.
Speaker 5: That's a good attitude. That's a good positive attitude.
Speaker 2: And even if it doesn't work out with Keith, just
Speaker 2: like your app says, there are plenty of fish out
Speaker 2: there for you to hook up with and discuss orchids with.
Speaker 1: Right, right, Okay.
Speaker 2: So how long has it been since your botanical garden
Speaker 2: date happened.
Speaker 4: It's been like two weeks.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's a long time in the modern dating world.
Speaker 11: So it's part of the experience you need to get
Speaker 11: ghosted at.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, yeah, your first ghosting. Yeah, like, oh exactly.
Speaker 2: Well, Keith's got some splaining to do, and we're going
Speaker 2: to get him on the line for answers in your
Speaker 2: second date update.
Speaker 1: Right after this.
Speaker 11: Brooking, Jeffrey in the morning update.
Speaker 2: If you're just joining us for the second date, We've
Speaker 2: been talking to Vanessa, who, after many years of marriage,
Speaker 2: recently hopped back into the dating world. Yeah, even though
Speaker 2: she was nervous, she went full out. Yes, did all
Speaker 2: the stereotypical hot date things, botanical gardens, cups of herbal tea,
Speaker 2: even edgy plant humor. Yeah, it was intense, to say
Speaker 2: the least. But two weeks later she's getting her very
Speaker 2: first taste of ghosting.
Speaker 1: Isn't sure why?
Speaker 2: Now, before we call Keith here, I do want to
Speaker 2: ask you, Vanessa, since you said you were the one
Speaker 2: who suggested the botanical gardens. You think it's possible that
Speaker 2: Keith maybe wasn't as into plant dates as you were.
Speaker 5: She thought that he was just because of his profile picks.
Speaker 5: But maybe he just thought I looked good in that picture.
Speaker 1: Sure you know, did you pick up a vibe like
Speaker 1: that at all?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's a possibility.
Speaker 6: Wait, did you know most guys are, but not everyone's
Speaker 6: a flower guy?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I he could see you as a botanical garden lady,
Speaker 2: where he's more of a beer.
Speaker 1: Garden type of dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we can find a garden somewhere in between
Speaker 2: to send you on your next date. Let's reach out.
Speaker 2: We're going to dial his number right now and hopefully
Speaker 2: he picks up.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right.
Speaker 5: Okay, don't let this ruin the rest of your dating experience.
Speaker 5: One bad egg does not mean they're all rotten.
Speaker 1: Oh I thought you thought you mean us. No, they will.
Speaker 2: We're gonna try our best here. I'm calling him right now. Hello, Hey,
Speaker 2: we're looking to speak with Keith.
Speaker 12: This is he who's calling.
Speaker 1: Hey man, This is a radio show called Brook and
Speaker 1: Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 12: Hello, Oh, okay, morning, Hi.
Speaker 2: We're calling because we're doing this segment. It's called a
Speaker 2: second date update. I don't know if you know about that,
Speaker 2: but it's where if one of our listeners goes out
Speaker 2: with somebody and afterwards they're not getting a call back,
Speaker 2: they can email us to reach out to them and
Speaker 2: try and figure out if there's a reason for that.
Speaker 12: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Come on, it's kind of fun. I mean, who would
Speaker 5: ever think that you'd be called for a reason like this.
Speaker 12: I don't even want to ask who's who's the person?
Speaker 5: You don't want to ask? Curiosity?
Speaker 2: I mean, you should see it as a compliment. It's
Speaker 2: a good thing that they felt so strongly about you
Speaker 2: they reached out to us for help.
Speaker 1: But in this case, it's a woman named Vanessa.
Speaker 12: Mmm okay, yeah, that's why I didn't want to add
Speaker 12: what no.
Speaker 5: Why botanical garden Vanessa?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, why did you say you don't want us to ask?
Speaker 12: Listen? I don't know what she told you, but that woman,
Speaker 12: she's a freak.
Speaker 11: What talking about the samets, the ones you least expect.
Speaker 5: I guet, you're not wrong.
Speaker 1: A freak cow.
Speaker 12: I don't want to speak bad on anybody, but first
Speaker 12: and foremost, we met up when it's at plenty of fish,
Speaker 12: and he was deliberately catfishing me with these these pictures
Speaker 12: from like ten to fifteen years ago.
Speaker 6: Wait, but that's an accident, I understand.
Speaker 3: I always think about that when you get back into
Speaker 3: dating after that long. How do you have good photos
Speaker 3: for an hour?
Speaker 5: Because if you were married, there's no way a husband
Speaker 5: was taking good natures of you.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, doing bill on the couch?
Speaker 2: Do you know all of this Keith about Vanessa that
Speaker 2: it's her first time at least in a long time
Speaker 2: on the dating apps.
Speaker 12: No ever, Well, I mean she said she was married
Speaker 12: for a good little while, but it was obviously a
Speaker 12: longer while than I thought.
Speaker 5: What wait, are you saying that she was a lot
Speaker 5: older than you expected?
Speaker 12: The pictures made me think we were around the same age.
Speaker 12: But honestly, that woman could be my mother at this point.
Speaker 9: Oh, black and white because it's normally a sign.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, And what part of that turns you off?
Speaker 12: Oh my gosh, I don't even know you guys.
Speaker 5: He's joking. I mean, it doesn't ever feel good when
Speaker 5: you expect one thing and you get something else when
Speaker 5: you start a dating right, so, right at the beginning
Speaker 5: you were turned off.
Speaker 12: I was shocked, but I'm just like, listen, I'm already
Speaker 12: out here. Might as well just go.
Speaker 5: Through with it, okay.
Speaker 12: And we ended up going to this botanical garden.
Speaker 2: Right, we heard that that was actually her idea. But
Speaker 2: I'm more curious about why you said she's a freak.
Speaker 1: Well, how did that come up?
Speaker 5: I thought he just meant because of the pictures, But
Speaker 5: is that what you meant?
Speaker 6: Multiple meanings here.
Speaker 12: No, We're walking through the garden and she's just getting aggressive,
Speaker 12: like she's asking me what kind of pictures do I
Speaker 12: want from her? And she keeps going on about it,
Speaker 12: and I'm like, it's okay, I don't need anything.
Speaker 6: What oh she wanted picture?
Speaker 1: Oh? But she's asking what ones that she can send.
Speaker 12: To you apparently, but oh, I don't know if there's
Speaker 12: gonna be fifteen years old too or what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice of her to ask what you like.
Speaker 11: It does take worse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like, do you want one side or do
Speaker 1: you want both of them?
Speaker 5: It's an awkward It's an awkward assumption that anyone wants
Speaker 5: them period. I mean, you're at the botanical gardens in
Speaker 5: the daytime, totally sober.
Speaker 12: Yeah, exactly, And I told her I don't need any
Speaker 12: of that, and she made this weird comment. She was like,
Speaker 12: oh you want the real thing.
Speaker 6: Oh oh wow.
Speaker 5: Okay, she was married for a long time. Maybe she's
Speaker 5: like living.
Speaker 6: Out what she didn't get to do before.
Speaker 5: Or maybe she thinks that this is how dating works now,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's trying it out.
Speaker 12: It's one thing to be trying it out. But she
Speaker 12: literally suggested. They had this little plant shop in the garden,
Speaker 12: and she suggested we go behind it and do things.
Speaker 5: WHOA wow, happening.
Speaker 1: Vanessa?
Speaker 5: Dude, I would have been mortified.
Speaker 2: I did not get that vibe from her when we
Speaker 2: were talking to her before.
Speaker 5: How did you even respond?
Speaker 12: I had no time to respond. She was like, there's
Speaker 12: nobody in the women's restroom.
Speaker 1: And that was all a turn off to you.
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, it was that. And then having to sit
Speaker 12: down and drink tea casually after.
Speaker 11: That, oh oh wow?
Speaker 6: After you, like Loki rejected her.
Speaker 5: Make awkward eye contact the entire time.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, the good news is you won't have to
Speaker 2: worry about awkward eye contact in this situation because she
Speaker 2: is on the line, so you can't see her, but
Speaker 2: she does want to talk to you.
Speaker 6: Oh wow, she literally all of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she needed to think. So Vanessa, you're there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm here. You I mean like that. That's
Speaker 4: just what men want, right, and that's just how I am.
Speaker 4: I'm very active and like you know, have a very
Speaker 4: high drive. Oh wow, I didn't know I was dating
Speaker 4: a snowflake. Use me, WHOA? If you're not going to be,
Speaker 4: you know, a man, then I'm gonna have to take
Speaker 4: the initiative.
Speaker 1: Who she's calling you out?
Speaker 12: Dude?
Speaker 1: What do you have to say to that?
Speaker 5: WHOA?
Speaker 12: Do you think taking initiative is going behind a plant shop?
Speaker 7: It doesn't have to like that.
Speaker 12: That's too much. Well you ain't.
Speaker 4: Nobody was there.
Speaker 12: It's the first day. You don't do that.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, many.
Speaker 4: Days man, these days?
Speaker 6: Who like this?
Speaker 3: I don't if it was a Netflix until that, you
Speaker 3: wouldn't be shocked. It's the gardens really threw it off.
Speaker 12: I mean, put yourself in my shoes for a second.
Speaker 12: After the date, she starts sending me weird messages to
Speaker 12: come over. She's telling me that she has these adult
Speaker 12: movies on Blu rays.
Speaker 1: On Blu Ray.
Speaker 5: I'm still put in an adult movie scratched, let me
Speaker 5: fix this?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You those well those were my husbands. I got them
Speaker 4: in the divorce.
Speaker 5: It's nice of you to offer to share that with
Speaker 5: your date, but your date isn't responding to any of
Speaker 5: your text messages and you keep going, well he.
Speaker 4: Never said no.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he didn't say yes.
Speaker 1: You know, well, this is a.
Speaker 2: Good chance for him to say yes, because we're going
Speaker 2: to offer to send you two out on another date.
Speaker 2: And Keith, if you're if you're open to trying this
Speaker 2: and giving Vanessa another chance, will pay for it.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know what you're gonna get this time around.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, she says herself that she's very forward, she's open.
Speaker 2: She's just putting herself out there only because she felt
Speaker 2: such a good connection with you.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming so.
Speaker 5: Sounds like such a sweet, innocent date. I still can't get.
Speaker 11: Over it was it was I was never looking about
Speaker 11: candle guard.
Speaker 5: She didn't want it to be sweetened, is it?
Speaker 2: Well, maybe the next one can be a little bit better,
Speaker 2: because we'll pay for it. Keith, if you say yes
Speaker 2: to another date with her, absolutely not.
Speaker 4: Here's just such a whim.
Speaker 5: I mean, really, I think that you like going forward
Speaker 5: in your dating life, Vanessa, maybe should be a little
Speaker 5: more upfront about what you're looking.
Speaker 1: Full up in frontal is what people are looking at it.
Speaker 5: I mean it sounds like you're game to do that anyone.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, my grandkids told me about tenders that god.
Speaker 8: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 2: I need to hear from our listeners. Text in at
Speaker 2: seventy eight five nine to two. If you've ever successfully
Speaker 2: fooled around in a botanical garden, The more I say it,
Speaker 2: the hotter it sounds.
Speaker 1: Anyone ever, I mean, I.
Speaker 5: Don't think you'd get caught, because nobody would suspect it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's not like they're knocking on the door of the
Speaker 5: bathroom if you've been in there for too long.
Speaker 6: People kissing handle garden, I'd be like, oh, their first.
Speaker 5: Kiss ever, their grandparents, especially her.
Speaker 11: Yeah, how she comes off, Yeah, look at her.
Speaker 5: We can even really go back to the fact that
Speaker 5: she basically catfished him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, she doesn't know what fishing.
Speaker 5: She was a lot more season than we gave her
Speaker 5: credit for.
Speaker 2: True, But my guess is that Brooke is thinking the
Speaker 2: exact same thing that I am.
Speaker 1: Where have all the loose men gone. Where did they go?
Speaker 1: They used to be roaming all over keeping it zipped up.
Speaker 5: Nowadays, why do you men have self respect?
Speaker 1: It's just a different day and age.
Speaker 2: Now people are hesitant to get freaky behind plant shops
Speaker 2: in broad daylight.
Speaker 5: Yeah wow, I never thought we'd be here, jeff.
Speaker 2: Anyway, listening to us on the podcast right now, make
Speaker 2: sure you hit that subscribe button. And if you need
Speaker 2: help in your dating life, you can always email the show.
Speaker 2: We'll call that person who's not calling you back Brook
Speaker 2: and Jeffrey.
Speaker 11: In the morning.
Speaker 2: Every single guy knows that if you're picking up a
Speaker 2: lady in your whip, you need to make sure it's
Speaker 2: looking clean, oh and smelling like success. That's the first
Speaker 2: step in tricking her into thinking you're a responsible adult.
Speaker 2: She won't have any clue that your floor was strewn
Speaker 2: with empty red bullcans and old McDonald's wrappers.
Speaker 1: Like two hours ago.
Speaker 2: And I know one of our listener wishes that he
Speaker 2: would have done a better job tidying up his vehicle
Speaker 2: because his entire night was ruined when his date reached
Speaker 2: down and pulled something out from.
Speaker 1: Between the seats.
Speaker 2: It was definitely incriminating and left all of us in shock.
Speaker 2: You're gonna hear it in your brand new second Date update.
Speaker 3: Next Brook and Jeffrey in the morning Second Date Update.
Speaker 2: For a lot of guys on the dating apps, coming
Speaker 2: up with the perfect opener is like painting the mona Lisa.
Speaker 6: Wow, takes a lot of time.
Speaker 8: Cure.
Speaker 2: Are you just put something down? Stand back, you study it,
Speaker 2: Add a little word here, yeah, just that line there.
Speaker 5: Take off the eyebrows there, Yeah, tossing.
Speaker 2: An extra emoji, delete that pun, and after four hours
Speaker 2: you finally send her.
Speaker 1: In four hours, hey, what's up? And no response.
Speaker 5: In there, which so personal?
Speaker 6: You shouldn't have used the apostrophe.
Speaker 1: Is that what it was? I thought the three question
Speaker 1: marks we're gonna work.
Speaker 2: But today we have a listener who says he actually
Speaker 2: put in some work, real work, into figuring out an
Speaker 2: opening line with a sixty percent reply rate, which is
Speaker 2: extremely high for guys on these apps.
Speaker 1: And that's very very high.
Speaker 2: Heikes, Yeah, okay, what's the average like two percent reply rate?
Speaker 1: Maybe lower?
Speaker 5: How many messages are you guys sendy very difficult.
Speaker 1: His name is Carson, So Carson, welcome to the show man.
Speaker 7: How are you doing guys, are you going to let
Speaker 7: him deliver the line?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what the line is. I'm curious.
Speaker 1: I don't never written, so, like, what kind of line
Speaker 1: are we working with here, Carson.
Speaker 7: Like, we don't even need to talk. But I was
Speaker 7: wondering if you would critique my profile? I'm new here.
Speaker 1: Oh oh interesting? Okay, what do you think about that? Alexis?
Speaker 1: An invitation to critique his profile?
Speaker 5: I don't know, but looking at him up, yeah, aren't
Speaker 5: they then looking at your profile with a negative view
Speaker 5: that I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna say, because you're only going to pick out negative
Speaker 3: stuff to be funny about.
Speaker 6: You're not going to say, but it's a conversation.
Speaker 1: So Alexis is in the forty percent that would not
Speaker 1: reply to this.
Speaker 11: I reply something so rude that they don't apply back.
Speaker 6: Well, even terrible.
Speaker 2: Even that, I mean, that's a response in itself. That's
Speaker 2: a win, right, Carson, even if it's mean.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it did lead to someone.
Speaker 12: Her name is.
Speaker 2: Lenn Okay, Okay, I said, yeah, what was her critique?
Speaker 7: She said I should smile more in photos because I
Speaker 7: look too serious.
Speaker 5: Oh that's a nice one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Yeah, if you have a good smile, then
Speaker 2: you should be showing that off and women would like that.
Speaker 6: And pro tip, girls love it when you tell them
Speaker 6: that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, smile more. You look so smile just in the photos.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: So did you send her a personal pick of you smiling?
Speaker 7: I did not. I said, well you should see my
Speaker 7: smile in person. Said okay.
Speaker 2: Oh she said okay, and you're like, look to your
Speaker 2: left out your window right now.
Speaker 5: So what did you guys do for your date? Then?
Speaker 7: I offered to pick her up? Oh. We ended up
Speaker 7: going to a steakhouse.
Speaker 5: If you're wanting to impress her with the steak dinner,
Speaker 5: I mean, you must really like this woman, you know.
Speaker 7: What she's She's great. Into the steakhouse, things went really well.
Speaker 7: It was everything I hoped it would be.
Speaker 5: I want to hear some highlights.
Speaker 1: Did you smile at her the whole time?
Speaker 7: I tried to smile more? Yes?
Speaker 1: Good, Okay, it's too much.
Speaker 5: What did you guys connect over?
Speaker 7: Well, she's a room in the sports I'm a big
Speaker 7: sports guy, so that was an instant connection. We like
Speaker 7: similar kinds of music.
Speaker 1: I mean, it all sounds really good. There was nothing
Speaker 1: awkward that happened on the date.
Speaker 7: Everything was great. The awkward moment was on the way home. Okay,
Speaker 7: she saw something between the seats of my car, and
Speaker 7: she reached down. She pulled it out, and it was
Speaker 7: a canister of lipstick. No, I know, that looks really bad.
Speaker 7: It probably looked like I was on another date.
Speaker 6: You just tell her, like, look, that's not my shade
Speaker 6: a little bit.
Speaker 1: I have mine at home.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, anyone could have dropped it in your
Speaker 5: car and fallen out of a pocket, sister or a
Speaker 5: friend or what did she say?
Speaker 7: Well, she she certainly wanted to know where it came from,
Speaker 7: and I was.
Speaker 12: I was.
Speaker 7: I was honest with her. Uh, you know, I borrowed
Speaker 7: my ex girlfriend's car.
Speaker 5: Wait, you were driving your girlfriend's car.
Speaker 6: It wasn't your car.
Speaker 11: Oh no, that's worse than.
Speaker 1: Did that totally smooth everything.
Speaker 7: Over for the conversation that you know mine was in
Speaker 7: the shop. I was trying to be straight up with her. Obviously,
Speaker 7: the vibe kind of change at that point.
Speaker 5: Why didn't you just say, a friend, if.
Speaker 7: I could go back and change it, I think I would,
Speaker 7: that is it. Yeah, it looked like I thought I
Speaker 7: was getting a good night kiss. Everything was great. Obviously
Speaker 7: that didn't happen. Yeah, that's why I'm here. I'm hoping
Speaker 7: maybe you guys can help me.
Speaker 9: Wait, and now she's not calling you back like you
Speaker 9: haven't smooth it O.
Speaker 7: No, I haven't heard from her since not a week
Speaker 7: or so, so everything.
Speaker 6: Was going good. It's a circumstance.
Speaker 5: What's the relationship with you and your ex? Before we
Speaker 5: call her?
Speaker 1: They're on good terms enough for her to the car?
Speaker 5: How good of terms?
Speaker 7: Like we were always friends, we tried to date, it
Speaker 7: didn't work out, we're still friends.
Speaker 1: That's so cool.
Speaker 6: You guys can do that.
Speaker 11: Okay, that sounds when you try to date somebody.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I mean like you could describe her as
Speaker 5: a friend instead of an axe for Yeah, did you
Speaker 5: get a chance to explain that to leand I.
Speaker 7: Didn't get a chance to because we were so close
Speaker 7: to her house. That was the end of it.
Speaker 1: Honestly, it's probably for the best.
Speaker 2: You don't probably want to be gloating about how great
Speaker 2: of a relationship you have with your ex girlfriend on
Speaker 2: a first date with somebody.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, if you're driving her car, you're going to
Speaker 5: want to explain something like it's better than we're still
Speaker 5: sleeping together.
Speaker 9: And what answer is good when you're like she's the
Speaker 9: best or you're like, oh I hate her, Yeah, you're
Speaker 9: driving her.
Speaker 5: I think it's a green flag if someone can get
Speaker 5: along with their ex. You know.
Speaker 7: That's why I'm hoping you guys can get her on
Speaker 7: the phone and help me explain that to her, because
Speaker 7: I don't know if she's gonna listen to me.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna let Brook tackle that.
Speaker 5: I'm friends with all sorts of ex.
Speaker 1: Yasy for guy, what's wrong with him?
Speaker 2: Anyway, We'll call Leanne for you after this and try
Speaker 2: and help you get your second date update in just a.
Speaker 11: Minute, Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 5: Second date updates.
Speaker 2: If you're just joining us, let's quickly recap Carson's first
Speaker 2: date with a little game of.
Speaker 1: Good or bad.
Speaker 2: Steakhouse dinner, good idea, good, lots of smiling, good picking
Speaker 2: her up in your ex girlfriend's white Jetta.
Speaker 1: I don't know every we're thinking that's.
Speaker 2: Probably the big red flag that's been scaring Leanne away
Speaker 2: from a second meet up with Carson, but Brooke wisely
Speaker 2: pointed out, actually it could be seen as a green
Speaker 2: flag that he doesn't have a toxic relationship with past
Speaker 2: love interests, Right, Brooke.
Speaker 5: Dude, I think that if you can be friends with
Speaker 5: an ax, it doesn't mean that you still have feelings
Speaker 5: for them. It's when you still have feelings is when
Speaker 5: things get dicey and you can't talk to them and
Speaker 5: you're angry and everything.
Speaker 2: Okay, but what about friends with benefits?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean it's an ex, so it doesn't really count.
Speaker 1: All right, Carson? Does that feel good? Does it give
Speaker 1: you a little bit of hope before we make this call?
Speaker 5: I'm optimistic, Okay, but there's no benefits with your ex? Right?
Speaker 7: No? No?
Speaker 12: No?
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, good good.
Speaker 11: Well, besides the car, he does get to borrow her car.
Speaker 5: I've meant a different time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not the physical type of So let's reach
Speaker 2: out to Leanne. Hopefully she picks up and we can
Speaker 2: explain this whole thing and get her to.
Speaker 1: Go out with you again.
Speaker 7: Okay, sounds great, good.
Speaker 1: Right now, let's do it.
Speaker 7: Hello?
Speaker 1: Hey, is this Leanne?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 8: This is her? Who's this?
Speaker 1: Well? This is actually us?
Speaker 2: Yeah, a whole ensemble of people called Brooke and Jeffrey
Speaker 2: in the morning.
Speaker 1: We're a radio show.
Speaker 8: Good morning, Good good morning.
Speaker 6: Thanks for saying it back. People don't say it back.
Speaker 5: I appreciate It's like when you say you're welcome or.
Speaker 6: Thank Yeah, you're a nice person, Leanne.
Speaker 2: We're hoping that this can be a good morning for
Speaker 2: you because we're doing something called a second date update.
Speaker 8: Okay, all right, you know I've seen it. I've seen
Speaker 8: her social media.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so well, thank you for finding on social media.
Speaker 5: You can go to our podcast too.
Speaker 1: She didn't sound like she liked it.
Speaker 5: She comes up in the ALP. We'll always be promoting,
Speaker 5: all right.
Speaker 8: It's always a disaster. It's always some nightmare case.
Speaker 5: Not that's not true. No, that's not true. We only
Speaker 5: air the disaster, just the ones that go viral. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we're hoping this is not one of those
Speaker 2: that you'll never even see this in your feed because
Speaker 2: we're reaching out based on a date you went with
Speaker 2: with a guy named Carson.
Speaker 8: Oh, okay, would you call it a disaster?
Speaker 5: Your day with Carson?
Speaker 8: I don't know, Carson, Carson, What are you doing Carson?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we spoke to Carson earlier and he had
Speaker 2: really glowing reviews about the date. Just what we know
Speaker 2: from it is that you two connected on a dating app.
Speaker 2: You said you really liked his smile, had a nice
Speaker 2: dinner at a steakhouse. There was no kiss at the end.
Speaker 2: He was a little surprised by that, but no disappointed,
Speaker 2: I think disappointed. But now you're not open to another one.
Speaker 2: So he's trying to figure out if there's a.
Speaker 8: Reason he must have left something out.
Speaker 1: I love something out.
Speaker 5: I think you did. Yeah you did.
Speaker 8: Actually, I mean I would be embarrassed. But he was
Speaker 8: driving his ex girlfriend's car.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, he did tell us that. I just
Speaker 2: didn't want to recap that part in case it wasn't
Speaker 2: a big issue for you.
Speaker 5: So I was what was your reaction when he told
Speaker 5: you that?
Speaker 8: That's not okay? Why that's not okay? Okay? That just
Speaker 8: means that somewhat special in your life is still in
Speaker 8: your life.
Speaker 2: I mean, technically, okay, you feel threatened by the ex
Speaker 2: girlfriend a little bit.
Speaker 8: I know, not that I've just I've dated guys in
Speaker 8: similar situations and it always ends bad in my my
Speaker 8: personal situation.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, that's that's okay that you can think that,
Speaker 2: But let brook explain to you why you're wrong.
Speaker 5: That's not what I'm trying to do. But I do
Speaker 5: think that you could maybe change your stance on a
Speaker 5: little bit if you thought of it more as like
Speaker 5: a green flag, Like here's a guy who still respects
Speaker 5: someone that he dated, that he that was he it
Speaker 5: was close to, and it's good that they can still
Speaker 5: have a non romantic relationship.
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, I guess I never considered it that way.
Speaker 5: I mean, have you ever like had a friend and
Speaker 5: then got your feelings kind of mixed up in that friendship?
Speaker 5: Like it's hard to have opposite gender friends because you're like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, how much do I like this person?
Speaker 5: And then you try out dating and you're like, whoa,
Speaker 5: I didn't like him that much?
Speaker 2: Did you know that was the case with Carson, that
Speaker 2: he was friends with that girl first before they tried
Speaker 2: dating and then it didn't work out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they realized that they weren't meant to be together.
Speaker 8: I mean no, no, I mean this is all kind
Speaker 8: of like a lot in general. But good point.
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, look at you being a reasonable human love it?
Speaker 12: Okay.
Speaker 2: So, so is that something that would maybe change your
Speaker 2: mind a little bit about possibly seeing him and giving
Speaker 2: him another chance?
Speaker 8: Possibly the radio person I don't know her name, but
Speaker 8: like she did bring up some pretty decent points.
Speaker 5: So I feel like I didn't deliver that.
Speaker 6: Ye say, well, her name is Alexis. Give her all
Speaker 6: the credits.
Speaker 2: I mean, this sounds really good to us in the
Speaker 2: room here, but I bet it sounds even better to Carson,
Speaker 2: who's been quietly listening on the other line hoping to talk.
Speaker 8: To you, listening to this whole time?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 5: I can hear you smiling through the phone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think he's there, Carson.
Speaker 7: Hey, hey, guys, I'm here.
Speaker 8: What are you doing? What are you doing this for?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 12: Look?
Speaker 5: They are so cute.
Speaker 7: I felt a connection with you that I haven't felt
Speaker 7: with anybody, and I really want to try to make
Speaker 7: this work.
Speaker 6: It's adorable.
Speaker 8: That's really sweet to hear that from you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's not like those other guys that you dated
Speaker 5: that were yucky, you know, with their axes.
Speaker 7: Yeah things, yeah, yeah, Well, look, I need to be
Speaker 7: one hundred percent honest with you. We're getting all out
Speaker 7: there right now.
Speaker 9: Okay.
Speaker 7: I do live with I do live with my ex.
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait.
Speaker 7: That's how I was able to borrow the car.
Speaker 2: Brooke, how dare you support this and say that it
Speaker 2: was totally innocent and reflect her.
Speaker 7: It's like a sister. It's really not a big deal, you.
Speaker 12: Know.
Speaker 2: But they're in a good place now, Brooke, you said
Speaker 2: it yourself, Well you don't live with.
Speaker 5: Your axe and like that feels like you were living
Speaker 5: together and then you broke up and you never moved out.
Speaker 5: Did you move in together when you were in a relationship.
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know. I don't really remember. There
Speaker 7: was a lot going on. It just kind of happened.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's like a timeshirt situation for us, which
Speaker 7: with the rent, we rotate the car.
Speaker 8: It's shut up, I think seriously, Like I told you guys,
Speaker 8: this is all disastrous plan.
Speaker 7: Look trust me when I say this, it's not a disaster.
Speaker 5: Oh god, that's famous. Last words.
Speaker 7: Why don't you come over this weekend? We can we
Speaker 7: can hash it out. And it's my weekend to have
Speaker 7: the master bedroom.
Speaker 11: Wait what, oh, there's only one bedroom.
Speaker 1: That's a good living situation.
Speaker 7: It works for us, don't judge.
Speaker 5: Wow, where do you sleep when you don't have the bedroom?
Speaker 7: I'm in the car and that's what it's for.
Speaker 1: A car slash bedroom.
Speaker 8: In your car.
Speaker 7: Only part time I can remember it's her.
Speaker 1: Car, not his jet.
Speaker 4: R.
Speaker 5: I have a headache. Yeah, I'm sorry about that whole
Speaker 5: green flag thing.
Speaker 1: No, it is a green flag.
Speaker 2: It's a green flag that he is such a good
Speaker 2: roommate that X doesn't even want to let him go.
Speaker 1: That's how awesome he is to live with.
Speaker 5: Dude, you share a bed that you guys rotate on
Speaker 5: the weekdays.
Speaker 8: Holda.
Speaker 7: We don't share the bed when she's in it. I'm
Speaker 7: not when I'm in it, she's not. We have a calendar,
Speaker 7: it's set.
Speaker 11: Up the bed Cali organized community. I can't say it.
Speaker 1: Man, Even Alexis is coming around on him.
Speaker 8: So I mean a nightmare.
Speaker 2: It could be your nightmare if you say yes to
Speaker 2: another date with Carson and you would pay for that date.
Speaker 5: If you're open to you will be your nightmare if
Speaker 5: you say yes.
Speaker 6: No, it's not going to be a nightmare until it
Speaker 6: goes viral.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Oh I don't want this to go viral. I don't
Speaker 8: want to go on another date.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If you're.
Speaker 6: If you're seeing this on socials, do not come man,
Speaker 6: do not like this?
Speaker 2: Oh man, Man, Carson. It sounds like a no from Leanne.
Speaker 7: There, Leanne, you know you didn't complain when I used
Speaker 7: the excess debit card to pay for dinner.
Speaker 5: WHOA get out of here?
Speaker 4: You never told me that.
Speaker 5: How would it come up in conversation?
Speaker 1: Yeah? All right?
Speaker 2: Well wow, and Carson, you were worried that the problem
Speaker 2: was that you picked her up in your ex's car,
Speaker 2: And turns out the issue is that you actually swap
Speaker 2: beds with your exes.
Speaker 1: Because you live together.
Speaker 5: Oh and your ex pace for everything, well half of
Speaker 5: half of the time.
Speaker 7: And then when you say it like that, I think
Speaker 7: I sound like a pretty good dude.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're a catch, buddy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, how did Carson think that it was
Speaker 2: okay to withhold that information from us?
Speaker 1: In part one?
Speaker 6: Has he said him a lot of information?
Speaker 2: Because Brook literally asked him, what's your relationship with your ex?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: And he said, oh, we're still friends. Didn't mention oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: we share the same master bed off of a rotating
Speaker 2: calendar would have been a little bit of a different story.
Speaker 5: If you have a one bedroom apartment, you can't call
Speaker 5: it a master bed. It's the only bed.
Speaker 9: I didn't want to call it an end because the
Speaker 9: more he's kept talking, the more independent he is.
Speaker 6: He is your debit card.
Speaker 10: Car wouldn't be surprised, but honestly, just be truthful with
Speaker 10: us up front so Brooke doesn't come off looking as
Speaker 10: bad as she did.
Speaker 1: And that poor.
Speaker 9: Girl didn't want us to hit the air and now
Speaker 9: because of him, you know so.
Speaker 2: And that's why I just want to be honest right
Speaker 2: now with all of our listeners and tell you the
Speaker 2: truth that we do have a second Date podcast.
Speaker 1: It's real.
Speaker 2: Somehow it gets millions of downloads every month. Even I
Speaker 2: did not believe that.
Speaker 6: Go look for yourself.
Speaker 2: Brook showed me the numbers. So if you want to
Speaker 2: check it out and subscribe.
Speaker 6: And Brook always lies, it's
Speaker 2: A green flag to listen to our podcast, Binge Away
Speaker 2: at Brook and Jeffrey Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning