WEBVTT - Second Date Update Classics: Floral Intentions + Lipstick Dipstick 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.360 Well, this is technical director Ashton. It looks like I'm 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:05.000 the only one that showed up on a classic Saturday 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:08.680 Second Day update. So I'm gonna leave my Venmo code 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:10.600 at the bottom. If anyone wants to send me some 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:13.319 extra cash, that would be awesome. I need a raise. 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:18.920 Imagine being married for a couple decades and then it 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:22.800 doesn't work out. That sucks, and now you have no 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:27.640 choice but to try dating apps. Oh, it's the first 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:31.520 time you've ever seen matchmaking apps before, and that's when 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:31.920 you get. 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:33.120 The best advice ever. 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:41.879 Three words, plenty of fish sarcastic. Here, one of our 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.159 listeners tried it, and I don't think you're gonna believe 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:48.920 what happened on her very first to meet up. It's 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:52.960 definitely plenty of fish ish and she's gonna spill the 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.960 ish when we hear from her in your second date update. 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:59.240 Next, Brook and Jeffrey in the morning Second Date Update. 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:04.200 Imagine getting back on the dating apps after being married 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:05.120 for years. 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:06.480 Scary. 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:07.839 That would be weird. 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:09.240 Now what does that look like? 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:11.680 Yeah, my parents. 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:17.880 In other words, horror. It's worse than the movie Saw five. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:20.640 And I'm not even talking about the writing in that. 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:22.840 Oh, my god, I forgot there's like ten of those. 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.560 Yeah scripts not great, and you're just jumping into a 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:30.240 scary new world that maybe you've never even really experienced before. 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.440 And we've got a woman who recently can involved back 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:35.920 into the dating pool and needs a little help from 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.880 us today. Her name is Vanessa, So Vanessa, welcome. 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:39.040 To the show. 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:41.200 Thanks guys, thanks for having me on. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:43.360 It sounds like your experience is more of a belly 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:44.440 flop than a canniball. 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:49.480 Yeah, we don't know everything about your date yet. 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.280 Why don't we start from the beginning and tell us 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.880 who's this person that you met recently online? 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:54.840 Well? 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:59.000 I met a guy on plenty Fish and I am 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:03.680 recently divorced. I've been married for years. I got married 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:04.280 very young. 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.280 So had you ever done dating apps prior to this? 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:08.280 Never. 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:12.120 I've been married for a long time and so I'm 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.840 kind of getting out there again. And it's terrifying, it 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.840 really is. You see all these horrible stories on the 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:19.480 news and you thinking, oh my god, this person is 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:21.240 serial killer? Is it's too good to be true? 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:22.960 What kind of dating app are you on? 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:23.200 Though? 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.040 Are you swiping? Or are you like. 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.320 On one of those real sophisticated ones where you fill 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:27.800 out a bio. 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.480 She said plenty of fish, So I don't know about sophisticated. 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.639 Yeah, my friends were like, plenty of fish is good, 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:34.840 and I'm like, okay. 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:38.519 So oh yeah, I can't believe you actually trust those people. 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.520 But that's interesting. So you met a guy what's his name? 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:42.840 His name is Keith? 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:47.600 Okay, the first guy you've matched with and got out with. 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.640 Yes, yes, oh wowk wow. 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.519 That's a big, big move. So what attracted you to Keith? 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:54.560 I got a. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.519 Goodbbe from him, and you know, he likes dogs. He 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.200 kind of in a similar situation where he said he's 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.840 getting back out there and we talked a little bit online, 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:04.519 so I kind of felt good about him. 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:08.120 Okay, okay, So how long did it take? I mean, 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.320 I'm assuming you guys met up in real life. 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.960 Right, yeah? Yeah? So he was really sweet. He was like, 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:14.560 where do you want to go? And I'm like, oh, 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.600 that's nice, and so I suggested the botanical gardens. 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:21.240 Oh oh yeah, it's funny you said that. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.200 I was like ooh, And then I'm like, I'm the 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:23.960 only guy. 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:32.880 That's probably nothing says sexy like some orchids. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:33.000 And things get hot by the reflection pool. 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:35.000 I'm sure it is kind of humid in those places. 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:38.360 You didn't have a lot of plants, and his like photos, 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.080 and I was just kind of like, well, maybe he 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.240 knows about plants, so I thought maybe he would like 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:42.520 it too. 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:43.000 Yeah. 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.600 No, definitely spice up the conversation with some exciting plant talk. 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.080 So like a museum. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.320 I mean, I feel like walking is less awkward than 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:56.600 sitting at a bar'l. 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.160 You know, there's a lot of other people around, and 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:00.000 you got plants. 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.040 Oh yeah, because you're worried about the serial killer angle 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:03.360 of it all, exactly. 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:06.520 Yeah, He's like, we're going to a butterfly farm or something. 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.400 This is your first date that you've been on since 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.440 you were married. Yeah, you must have been nervous. How 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:12.880 did it go? 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:13.560 Well? 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:15.720 I mean I was pleasantly surprised. He was dressed a 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:19.240 bit more casually than I was. But we we strolled 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.240 around and we discussed flowers and I gave him some 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.320 facts about orchids, even little things that I've learned over 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:27.400 the years, you know, just conversation starters. 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:28.159 You know. 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.719 Do you think that you were yourself on the date? Yeah? 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:32.120 I do. 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.960 I was surprisingly relaxed. I mean I was super nervous 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.920 at first, but I calmed down as soon as he like, 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.000 you know, I just got a good vibe from him. 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.800 You're in like a pleasant environment that you're comfortable with, 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.040 just right, That's awesome. 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.600 We didn't just talk about orchids, well no, I mean 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:54.720 there was lots of other plants. We talked about a 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:56.800 lot of that, and I mean there was this one 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:01.520 really embarrassing moment he knocked over a decorative like water. Oh, 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.200 it broke, and I was like in the employees were 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.360 like oh. I was like, oh my gosh. So I 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.120 just made a joke that he was like dangerous to plants, 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:13.520 and I'm like hoping he didn't get offended. I don't know. 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:14.920 I'm sure, I'm sure. 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.560 So that's the one thing you found that went wrong 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.760 with your date is that you may have offended him 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:20.880 with your plant joke. 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.240 Yeah, I'm just scared that I offended him. But he 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.159 seems okay. We sat down and we got tea from 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.600 the little stand, and the date ended really really well. 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:32.440 I thought I maybe he walked me to my car, 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:34.320 gave me a hug. I told him I had a 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.480 great time this is really wholesome. 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.440 Yeah, it is a little too wholesome for the show. 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:40.000 I know. 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:41.800 I'm a little worried. I'm like, maybe this is too 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.159 good to be true. But I mean we had a 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:44.960 nice time and I told him, I said, look, I 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.279 would love to see you again and just kind of 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.880 do something similar or maybe go out to eat or 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.159 something like that. But I haven't heard from him, and 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.080 I'm just kind of upset right now. 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:55.840 May have been out of the dating game for a while, 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.440 but you have caught up so quickly. You're immediately on 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.360 the apps and when things go aroun you. 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.480 Come right to us. That's what everybody does and it's 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:03.560 dating nowadays. 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:08.360 Good job, Thank you. I'm just like I said, I'm 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.680 learning to get back out there. And I mean it worked. 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.200 Keith scenario. If if I did screw up, I did 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.280 do something wrong because I'm so new to the dating, 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.479 you know game again that maybe you know, if I 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:20.120 made a mistake, I can learn from it. It could 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.039 be a learning moment I can move on and improve. 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.719 That's a good attitude. That's a good positive attitude. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:26.600 And even if it doesn't work out with Keith, just 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.200 like your app says, there are plenty of fish out 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.159 there for you to hook up with and discuss orchids with. 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:34.560 Right, right, Okay. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.440 So how long has it been since your botanical garden 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:38.159 date happened. 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:40.520 It's been like two weeks. 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.440 Oh okay, that's a long time in the modern dating world. 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.400 So it's part of the experience you need to get 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:47.000 ghosted at. 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:51.400 Yeah, yes, yeah, your first ghosting. Yeah, like, oh exactly. 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.440 Well, Keith's got some splaining to do, and we're going 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.560 to get him on the line for answers in your 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:57.440 second date update. 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:58.240 Right after this. 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.520 Brooking, Jeffrey in the morning update. 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.680 If you're just joining us for the second date, We've 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:08.760 been talking to Vanessa, who, after many years of marriage, 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:14.240 recently hopped back into the dating world. Yeah, even though 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.840 she was nervous, she went full out. Yes, did all 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:24.160 the stereotypical hot date things, botanical gardens, cups of herbal tea, 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:30.160 even edgy plant humor. Yeah, it was intense, to say 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:33.600 the least. But two weeks later she's getting her very 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:35.360 first taste of ghosting. 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:37.360 Isn't sure why? 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.000 Now, before we call Keith here, I do want to 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.480 ask you, Vanessa, since you said you were the one 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:46.520 who suggested the botanical gardens. You think it's possible that 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:52.120 Keith maybe wasn't as into plant dates as you were. 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:54.760 She thought that he was just because of his profile picks. 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.920 But maybe he just thought I looked good in that picture. 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.440 Sure you know, did you pick up a vibe like 0:07:59.480 --> 0:07:59.880 that at all? 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:02.360 Yeah, I mean that's a possibility. 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.000 Wait, did you know most guys are, but not everyone's 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:05.880 a flower guy? 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:06.480 Yeah. 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.840 I he could see you as a botanical garden lady, 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:11.480 where he's more of a beer. 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:12.320 Garden type of dude. 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.320 Yeah, maybe we can find a garden somewhere in between 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.840 to send you on your next date. Let's reach out. 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:22.600 We're going to dial his number right now and hopefully 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:23.160 he picks up. 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.320 Okay, okay, all right. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.920 Okay, don't let this ruin the rest of your dating experience. 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:29.960 One bad egg does not mean they're all rotten. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:33.800 Oh I thought you thought you mean us. No, they will. 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:47.080 We're gonna try our best here. I'm calling him right now. Hello, Hey, 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:48.360 we're looking to speak with Keith. 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:51.280 This is he who's calling. 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:53.880 Hey man, This is a radio show called Brook and 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:54.880 Jeffrey in the Morning. 0:08:55.280 --> 0:09:00.760 Hello, Oh, okay, morning, Hi. 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.000 We're calling because we're doing this segment. It's called a 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.640 second date update. I don't know if you know about that, 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.079 but it's where if one of our listeners goes out 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.760 with somebody and afterwards they're not getting a call back, 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.760 they can email us to reach out to them and 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.560 try and figure out if there's a reason for that. 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.000 Oh my god. 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:24.880 Come on, it's kind of fun. I mean, who would 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:26.960 ever think that you'd be called for a reason like this. 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.560 I don't even want to ask who's who's the person? 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.640 You don't want to ask? Curiosity? 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.360 I mean, you should see it as a compliment. It's 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.320 a good thing that they felt so strongly about you 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:41.000 they reached out to us for help. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:42.840 But in this case, it's a woman named Vanessa. 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:47.120 Mmm okay, yeah, that's why I didn't want to add 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:47.920 what no. 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:52.120 Why botanical garden Vanessa? 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:53.400 Yeah? 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:58.560 Yeah, why did you say you don't want us to ask? 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.880 Listen? I don't know what she told you, but that woman, 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:03.640 she's a freak. 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:09.600 What talking about the samets, the ones you least expect. 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:11.439 I guet, you're not wrong. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:11.880 A freak cow. 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:14.480 I don't want to speak bad on anybody, but first 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.880 and foremost, we met up when it's at plenty of fish, 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:22.880 and he was deliberately catfishing me with these these pictures 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:24.800 from like ten to fifteen years ago. 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.319 Wait, but that's an accident, I understand. 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:30.959 I always think about that when you get back into 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:32.840 dating after that long. How do you have good photos 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:33.360 for an hour? 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:36.440 Because if you were married, there's no way a husband 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:37.679 was taking good natures of you. 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:39.480 I'm sorry, doing bill on the couch? 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.120 Do you know all of this Keith about Vanessa that 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.800 it's her first time at least in a long time 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:45.680 on the dating apps. 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.760 No ever, Well, I mean she said she was married 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.200 for a good little while, but it was obviously a 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:52.520 longer while than I thought. 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.120 What wait, are you saying that she was a lot 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:56.559 older than you expected? 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.320 The pictures made me think we were around the same age. 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.760 But honestly, that woman could be my mother at this point. 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:05.640 Oh, black and white because it's normally a sign. 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.400 Okay, okay, And what part of that turns you off? 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:15.880 Oh my gosh, I don't even know you guys. 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:17.840 He's joking. I mean, it doesn't ever feel good when 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.200 you expect one thing and you get something else when 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:22.360 you start a dating right, so, right at the beginning 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:23.320 you were turned off. 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.920 I was shocked, but I'm just like, listen, I'm already 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:28.600 out here. Might as well just go. 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:29.880 Through with it, okay. 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:33.280 And we ended up going to this botanical garden. 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.880 Right, we heard that that was actually her idea. But 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.720 I'm more curious about why you said she's a freak. 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:40.760 Well, how did that come up? 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:42.640 I thought he just meant because of the pictures, But 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:43.360 is that what you meant? 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:44.680 Multiple meanings here. 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.680 No, We're walking through the garden and she's just getting aggressive, 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.760 like she's asking me what kind of pictures do I 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.720 want from her? And she keeps going on about it, 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.440 and I'm like, it's okay, I don't need anything. 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.640 What oh she wanted picture? 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:04.720 Oh? But she's asking what ones that she can send. 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:08.360 To you apparently, but oh, I don't know if there's 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.079 gonna be fifteen years old too or what. 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.880 Yeah, it's nice of her to ask what you like. 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:15.080 It does take worse. 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.920 Yeah, she's like, do you want one side or do 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:18.880 you want both of them? 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:22.800 It's an awkward It's an awkward assumption that anyone wants 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:26.000 them period. I mean, you're at the botanical gardens in 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:27.800 the daytime, totally sober. 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.960 Yeah, exactly, And I told her I don't need any 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.920 of that, and she made this weird comment. She was like, 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:35.320 oh you want the real thing. 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:37.160 Oh oh wow. 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.800 Okay, she was married for a long time. Maybe she's 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:41.840 like living. 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.840 Out what she didn't get to do before. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.400 Or maybe she thinks that this is how dating works now, 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:46.640 you know. 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:48.000 Yeah, she's trying it out. 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.000 It's one thing to be trying it out. But she 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.680 literally suggested. They had this little plant shop in the garden, 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.760 and she suggested we go behind it and do things. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.920 WHOA wow, happening. 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:01.719 Vanessa? 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:03.640 Dude, I would have been mortified. 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.720 I did not get that vibe from her when we 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:08.000 were talking to her before. 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:09.439 How did you even respond? 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.800 I had no time to respond. She was like, there's 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.000 nobody in the women's restroom. 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:20.880 And that was all a turn off to you. 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.000 Oh yeah, it was that. And then having to sit 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.320 down and drink tea casually after. 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:27.559 That, oh oh wow? 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.440 After you, like Loki rejected her. 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.240 Make awkward eye contact the entire time. 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:35.440 Okay, Well, the good news is you won't have to 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:39.480 worry about awkward eye contact in this situation because she 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.360 is on the line, so you can't see her, but 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:43.520 she does want to talk to you. 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:47.840 Oh wow, she literally all of that. 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.920 Yeah, I think she needed to think. So Vanessa, you're there. 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.959 Yeah, yeah, I'm here. You I mean like that. That's 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:59.120 just what men want, right, and that's just how I am. 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:02.160 I'm very active and like you know, have a very 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:06.440 high drive. Oh wow, I didn't know I was dating 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:13.080 a snowflake. Use me, WHOA? If you're not going to be, 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.640 you know, a man, then I'm gonna have to take 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:16.360 the initiative. 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:19.600 Who she's calling you out? 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:19.880 Dude? 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:20.800 What do you have to say to that? 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:21.680 WHOA? 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:26.480 Do you think taking initiative is going behind a plant shop? 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.160 It doesn't have to like that. 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.640 That's too much. Well you ain't. 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:32.520 Nobody was there. 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.720 It's the first day. You don't do that. 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:37.680 Oh my god, many. 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:38.880 Days man, these days? 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:41.520 Who like this? 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.280 I don't if it was a Netflix until that, you 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.680 wouldn't be shocked. It's the gardens really threw it off. 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.280 I mean, put yourself in my shoes for a second. 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:54.040 After the date, she starts sending me weird messages to 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:57.440 come over. She's telling me that she has these adult 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:58.720 movies on Blu rays. 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:01.240 On Blu Ray. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:06.640 I'm still put in an adult movie scratched, let me 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:07.040 fix this? 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:07.400 Yeah? 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.360 You those well those were my husbands. I got them 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:12.040 in the divorce. 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:19.800 It's nice of you to offer to share that with 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:23.600 your date, but your date isn't responding to any of 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:27.520 your text messages and you keep going, well he. 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:28.520 Never said no. 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.360 Yeah, but he didn't say yes. 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:33.600 You know, well, this is a. 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:35.880 Good chance for him to say yes, because we're going 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.720 to offer to send you two out on another date. 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.120 And Keith, if you're if you're open to trying this 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.920 and giving Vanessa another chance, will pay for it. 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.200 I mean, you know what you're gonna get this time around. 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:47.920 Yeah. 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.920 I mean, she says herself that she's very forward, she's open. 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.920 She's just putting herself out there only because she felt 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:56.120 such a good connection with you. 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:59.840 I'm assuming so. 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:01.360 Sounds like such a sweet, innocent date. I still can't get. 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:05.320 Over it was it was I was never looking about 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:05.880 candle guard. 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:08.640 She didn't want it to be sweetened, is it? 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.600 Well, maybe the next one can be a little bit better, 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.440 because we'll pay for it. Keith, if you say yes 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.960 to another date with her, absolutely not. 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:19.400 Here's just such a whim. 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.960 I mean, really, I think that you like going forward 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:26.000 in your dating life, Vanessa, maybe should be a little 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.520 more upfront about what you're looking. 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.600 Full up in frontal is what people are looking at it. 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.080 I mean it sounds like you're game to do that anyone. 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:41.560 So, yeah, my grandkids told me about tenders that god. 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:47.080 Brook and Jeffrey in the morning. 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.080 I need to hear from our listeners. Text in at 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:53.240 seventy eight five nine to two. If you've ever successfully 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:58.640 fooled around in a botanical garden, The more I say it, 0:16:58.680 --> 0:16:59.720 the hotter it sounds. 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:01.520 Anyone ever, I mean, I. 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.440 Don't think you'd get caught, because nobody would suspect it. Yeah, 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:07.639 it's not like they're knocking on the door of the 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:09.400 bathroom if you've been in there for too long. 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.760 People kissing handle garden, I'd be like, oh, their first. 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.879 Kiss ever, their grandparents, especially her. 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.399 Yeah, how she comes off, Yeah, look at her. 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:20.879 We can even really go back to the fact that 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:22.240 she basically catfished him. 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:27.080 Yeah, yeah, she doesn't know what fishing. 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.040 She was a lot more season than we gave her 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:30.520 credit for. 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.560 True, But my guess is that Brooke is thinking the 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:35.200 exact same thing that I am. 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:40.960 Where have all the loose men gone. Where did they go? 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:44.639 They used to be roaming all over keeping it zipped up. 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.160 Nowadays, why do you men have self respect? 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:50.160 It's just a different day and age. 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:53.400 Now people are hesitant to get freaky behind plant shops 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:54.280