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Speaker 1: It is the final and most wonderful FT Live of

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Speaker 1: the year. We do this show live every day Monday

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Speaker 1: through Friday, all year long for three years now officially

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Speaker 1: three years on March first of twenty twenty six, but

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Speaker 1: this will cap our third season of FT. Scottie Brown,

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Speaker 1: Aer Kratz, Kevin Polar. If you're listening on the podcast

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Speaker 1: and you never watch us on YouTube, you should come,

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Speaker 1: especially for today, to see Eric Kratz doing his Sanna's

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Speaker 1: best and KP. I don't want to underwrite what you've

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Speaker 1: got on your head too.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. Putting on Santa's tab hat. It's

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Speaker 2: a great hat my wife found. I think it's very

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Speaker 2: fitting for today.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's at least one free drink if

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Speaker 3: you go to the bar around Christmas time.

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Speaker 2: The bar man I got young kids. I don't even

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Speaker 2: know what outside My little compound looks like groceries get delivered,

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Speaker 2: Groceries get delivered, We eat at home.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm on the house arrest.

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Speaker 1: You're what do you call crats, like treading water or

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Speaker 1: something like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're they're they're just they're they're treading water.

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Speaker 3: Because right now you're just like you know, when the

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Speaker 3: new baby came, you were like under PARNI, okay, maybe

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Speaker 3: you've got this great oh no blowout. We're fine, we're fine.

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Speaker 2: And our baby has like the the most insane ability

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Speaker 2: So it's like we start the timer. That's the only

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's the game. Well, this is your little break, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I do meetings all day, You've got kids in arms

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Speaker 1: little two hour break to talk ball. So appreciate everyone.

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Speaker 1: It's been watching all year, and we still will have

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Speaker 1: plenty of content from Christmas through New Year's. We've recorded

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Speaker 1: a bunch of funnel things that you'll hear on podcast

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Speaker 1: platforms and on YouTube. Now let's get to breaking news.

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Speaker 1: Here come the buckos. Two years, twenty nine million dollars

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Speaker 1: for Ryan O'Hearn. The Pittsburgh Pirates keep working on what

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Speaker 1: was a brutal offense in twenty twenty five, and they're

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Speaker 1: doing it. They're making moves right now. This contract also

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Speaker 1: includes five hundred thousand dollars in performance bonuses in each

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Speaker 1: season for O'Hearn. Good job by FT insider Robert Murray

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Speaker 1: on that case. Okay, KP Brandon Lao was just acquired

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Speaker 1: by this team, and on our show yesterday they potentially

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Speaker 1: According to Baseball America, he should be ready at some

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Speaker 1: point this season. Now. They added Ryan O'Hearn, who's consistently

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Speaker 1: been a very very solid bat, above average bat in

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Speaker 1: baseball over the last few years, and the glove was

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Speaker 1: better than ever this past season, so you can get

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Speaker 1: some first space time out of him. What do we

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Speaker 1: think about the Pirates heading into twenty twenty six? Are

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Speaker 1: they at a potential playoff contender level yet?

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Speaker 2: Before I answered that question, all I could think about

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Speaker 2: message breaking news. I didn't want to peak see what

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Speaker 2: it was. I wanted to be surprised. But the streak

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Speaker 4: At twenty seventeen? Sixteen for Pirates twenty sixteen. The Pirates

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Speaker 4: have done it.

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Speaker 2: So I want to give them a round of applause

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Speaker 2: for signing someone up for more than one year. Would

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Speaker 2: but good for them. You know, we talk about another

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Speaker 2: Ultimately they got traded at the deadline. But I love

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Speaker 2: But to answer your question, I think the Pirates are

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 3: First thing that called me up, Pirates so I always

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Speaker 3: the Tigers had Terror scruball the Pirates have Paul Skins.

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Speaker 3: If you believe that this lineup is better than the

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Speaker 3: And I think Ryan O'Hearn's signing is amazing. I think

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Speaker 3: These are the Royals. He didn't play much. He was

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Speaker 1: This is gonna sound ridiculous, but it's not. You know

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Speaker 1: But my point is Ryan O'Hearn has been a consistently

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Speaker 3: Do you know who they had who they had hitting forth?

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Speaker 2: I think it makes it more attractive for other players

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Speaker 2: I think Marcelo Zuno talk about, you know, making players

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Speaker 1: Place to live. It's just the organization and how it's

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Speaker 3: Yes, And I would say maybe, and we'll ask O'Hearn.

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Speaker 3: But when Scott o'heart, Scott O'Hearn. When Ryan O'Hearn comes on,

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Speaker 1: I agree, yeah, and the Central got tougher. The team

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Speaker 2: When they inherit a team with a lot of really

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Speaker 2: good players on it and it doesn't work, or if

431
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Speaker 2: it does work, sometimes they like to kind of strip

432
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 2: it down and kind of bring in their own guys

433
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 2: and leave their own fingerprint. I think this is a

434
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 2: lot more to do with David Stearns and wanting to

435
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 2: leave his fingerprint on the Mets organization more than maybe

436
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 2: some of these rumors that you see about a lot

437
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 2: of these pieces not really fitting together. Because when I

438
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 2: was there, yes, every team going to have some you

439
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: know argument and behind closed doors, you know, fights or

440
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: disagreements and stuff. But you know a lot of these

441
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 2: players that are no longer there were really good players,

442
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 2: and they all kind of fit in. You know, it

443
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 2: was a bunch of different unique personalities. But when it

444
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: came to playing ball, these guys love playing ball and

445
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: love winning. And I know ultimately they haven't won, But

446
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: I think this has to do more with trying to

447
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: leave his fingerprint on bringing in his guys.

448
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Speaker 3: But they won recently. Like I get it, they didn't

449
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 3: win this year. And I don't think anything was so

450
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 3: bad and so agregious that this past year was like

451
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 3: we got to get rid of four of our most

452
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Speaker 3: productive players, let alone fan favorites, like for McNeil, he

453
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Speaker 3: had a one to eleven ops plus, like he was

454
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Speaker 3: above league average. Yes, his defense was what it was.

455
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 3: There was some tists. You would see some of his

456
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: you know, emotion. You gotta have guys that have emotions.

457
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: So the fact that David Stearns came in here and

458
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: has now dismantled a very huge core of this team,

459
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 3: he still hasn't dismantled two of the biggest core pieces

460
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Speaker 3: in Juan Soto and Francisco Lindor. The biggest question will

461
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Speaker 3: be for him and I don't because I know Stearns,

462
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Speaker 3: I don't feel like he's coming in going. My fingerprint

463
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 3: needs to be on this. I don't a lot of

464
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Speaker 3: gms have that, and player president of baseball operations have that,

465
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 3: like this is me. I want to be me. I

466
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: want to show everybody who I am, and this is

467
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 3: my kind of team. He's more of. I want to

468
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Speaker 3: build something that's sustainable. I want to build something that wins,

469
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Speaker 3: not just this year, but for the next fifteen years.

470
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Speaker 3: And I think sometimes those decisions are not always the

471
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Speaker 3: most popular decisions at this moment, saying all that he

472
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Speaker 3: needs needs to definitely come up with a lot of

473
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Speaker 3: value to be able to fill in for the guys

474
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Speaker 3: that he's lost. When you figure Nemo's twenty seven home runs,

475
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,479
Speaker 3: when you figure what Pete Alonso has done and what

476
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Speaker 3: he did in this past year, when you figure in

477
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Speaker 3: Jeff McNeil, I get it's been a while since he

478
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 3: won a batting title, but he's still an above average

479
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 3: hitter and the best, if not one of the best

480
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 3: closers in the game. And Edwin Diaz all gone to

481
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Speaker 3: fill in for those. Luke Weaver and Devin Williams good start,

482
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Speaker 3: There's a lot he needs to do on this offense

483
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 3: that was actually pretty good last year. It's the starting

484
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 3: pitching that cooked them, so it'll be interesting. But another

485
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 3: piece out of the Mets is gone.

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Speaker 1: Okay KP. Jeff McNeil and Francisco Lindor got into it

487
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Speaker 1: several years ago, and then it was reported that they

488
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Speaker 1: got into it again this past year. They're one of

489
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Speaker 1: a billion get into it situations that occur throughout a

490
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: baseball season, but they're in New York, so some of

491
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: them have become public. It's hard to dissect how to

492
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: view this one. Is it just because the Mets want

493
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,239
Speaker 1: to clear some more money and get David Stearns his

494
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: own guys in there, or is there also a factor

495
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Speaker 1: to switch up personalities involved in the clubhouse. I mean,

496
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Speaker 1: if there are two guys that go at it every

497
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Speaker 1: once in a while, do we like it? Is it good?

498
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: Is it healthy? Or do they prefer to have two

499
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: bestest friends that are always combo or you know, in

500
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Speaker 1: the lineup together frequently.

501
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think all these things are fair, but

502
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: you know, they also really didn't have a place for

503
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Speaker 2: Jeff McNeil. You bring in someone like Marcus Simi who's

504
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Speaker 2: going to play every day second base. You have Mark

505
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 2: Vientos and a Brett Bady are going to be kind

506
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Speaker 2: of competing for third base. Jeff McNeil is a fine outfielder.

507
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Speaker 2: Is he a goal glove caliber outfielder. No, but he's

508
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Speaker 2: kind of a jack of all trades, could kind of

509
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 2: fit in anywhere. You know, this could just be more

510
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: about he just kind of became the odd man out in,

511
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,719
Speaker 2: you know, the way their roster was configured. But I

512
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: really do like the moves on the on the A

513
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 2: side because I do think the young core of the

514
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: A's players is something promising. I think once they're able

515
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 2: to kind of build a pitching staff around them, and

516
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: I don't think that's really gonna happen until they moved

517
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Speaker 2: to Vegas, because I don't think there's a ton of

518
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 2: free agents wanting to sign in Sacramento at this point,

519
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: given how hit or friendly it is, how kind of

520
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: far behind it is on their facilities. But I do

521
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: love what they're gonna be able to do. From the

522
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: offensive side. You have guys like Jeff McNeil and Jack

523
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Speaker 2: Wilson who just are really tough out who put the

524
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 2: ball in play, and you think about the guys around them,

525
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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be able to score a lot

526
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Speaker 2: of runs, and they're gonna need to be able to

527
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Speaker 2: score a lot of runs to win games because their

528
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: pitching staff isn't quite there yet.

529
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Speaker 1: What do you think of the A's heading into next Yearocratz?

530
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Speaker 1: If they just wipe out May, they would have been

531
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Speaker 1: close to a playoff team this back season. They need

532
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: more pitching. I think that's pretty obvious. I think the

533
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: lineup is a playoff worthy lineup, I would say so.

534
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Speaker 3: I think they have. I think they have a good

535
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Speaker 3: mix of what KP just said. I mean McNeil pop

536
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Speaker 3: you ten to twelve home runs. Jacob Wilson will pop

537
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Speaker 3: you ten to twelve home runs. So those are the

538
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 3: contact guys. I think Rook has been just that solid,

539
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 3: solid DH for this team. And then with the emergence

540
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: of Nick Kurtz last year, you have an aircraft carrier

541
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: that makes Brent Rooker the guy that you're like, I mean,

542
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: who do we go after here? I guess my better

543
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 3: matchup is against the lefty. I'll try to go after

544
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: Nick Kurtz. I think they have a good lineup. I

545
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: think Soderstrum's full year of being in the big leagues

546
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 3: after a full year of being in the big leagues

547
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 3: will be huge, and I think Low Dog is going

548
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: to have a bounce back year. They have a great lineup.

549
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: But man, you can't you can't win like you can't

550
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 3: win the way they were trying to win last year. Whatever,

551
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: if it's Sacramento or not. KP will tell you if

552
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 3: you're standing out in the field in Sacramento, Toronto, Philly,

553
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 3: wherever it is, and you just scored seven runs and

554
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 3: you're losing eight to seven and the seventh inning, it's draining.

555
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: It drains on you. It just drains on you watching

556
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 3: more guys run in from the bullpen, watching more runs

557
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: get given up, and it's a track meet out there.

558
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: So they have to find a way to get quality

559
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: innings from the starters but also be able to just

560
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 3: flat out give up less runs. And they get rid

561
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: of JP Sears, they got rid of their lockdown closer

562
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 3: and Mason Miller. So yes, you get rid of May

563
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: and all that stuff is great, Like, you know, you

564
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: had a decent season, Try to finish an entire season,

565
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: not just the last month and a half. Two months

566
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Speaker 3: without Mason Miller. They had a stop a stop gap cloth.

567
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 3: I mean they had guy that stopped the game in

568
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 3: the ninth inning in Mason Miller, and now they don't

569
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: have it. They got a lot of work to do

570
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 3: on the pitching side. It's another team that I'm going

571
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: to be pushing that over all year next year.

572
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that park's tough. Did you get time there, KP.

573
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I played there. I played there early, so it

574
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: was a little cooler when I was there.

575
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 4: But it's still a launching pad.

576
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: I mean, there's runs are always going to be flying

577
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: on the board there. It's hard to you know, it's

578
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: much like Colorado. You know there and you're expecting to

579
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: score a lot of runs. And to Crats's point, when

580
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: you're someone that's in the field, whether you're in the

581
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: outfield or infield, and guys are just running around the bases,

582
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: you're constantly going to the bullpen, it does affect your

583
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: offense over the course of the year, the more you're

584
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 2: standing on your feet. So, you know, I love their offense.

585
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: We forgot about shay Langeliers also a really good player.

586
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: The guys capable of hitting thirty home runs. So like

587
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,239
Speaker 2: you think about their lineup from top to bottom, they

588
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: have right and lets you know, contact, they have some speed,

589
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: they have some pop, They're gonna score runs. It just

590
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: comes down to if they can get enough pitching. You know,

591
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: you saw what happened when they went out and signed

592
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: a seven reno. They had to severely overpay, and then

593
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: they got a frustrated player when he actually got the

594
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: Sacramento and played. You know, I think if they do

595
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: a good job and just continue to kind of lock

596
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: these guys up and kind of built for two to

597
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: three years from now, you know, I think they're gonna

598
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: be a team that's gonna be really good. But they

599
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: got to find a way to get pitching. And I

600
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: don't know much about their their minor league depth and pitching.

601
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: If they have options that they're able to bring up,

602
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: but it's it's tough shoes to fill when you have

603
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: a guy like Mason Miller leave and even jpcre is

604
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: very reliable.

605
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 4: Is he an ace on a staff? No, But sometimes

606
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 4: you need guys.

607
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: That can make their thirty two starts and you know,

608
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: throw one hundred and eighty innings a year.

609
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right now, their pitching is not close. You know,

610
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm looking as you guys are talking. But hitting wise,

611
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: everybody in the lineup was above average by a pretty

612
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: nice margin. Besides the bottom three in the regular order,

613
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: which would include Lawrence Butler, who was more of a

614
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: league average guy this past season with the bat, and

615
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: then they have Max Muntzy pegged to third, the other

616
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: Max Monty, and Denzel Clark who's sick in center field.

617
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: Everybody else is nicely above average if you go off

618
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: numbers like weighted runs created plus or ops plus. So

619
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: they're building something nice with the core. They should do

620
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: some spending on the free agent market. I'm not saying

621
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: they're going to go out and spend one hundred and

622
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: fifty million bucks on a starter, but they have a

623
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Speaker 1: lot of work to do. You guys are right. I

624
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: don't know if they're going to do it, but we'll see.

625
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: In January. Hey, good for Rob Refsnyder signing a contract

626
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: with the Seattle Mariners. And you know, he's one of

627
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: those specialists KP. He either bashes or is able to

628
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: solve left hand pitching as well as anybody in baseball,

629
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Speaker 1: and the Mariners recognize that. It's been around the game

630
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: for a while and he's really found a fit in

631
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: terms of how he's able to put together just incredibly

632
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: incredible quality at bats, so the Mariners pick him up.

633
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: For some reason, I lost where the money was, but

634
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: I believe Kratz. Do you have it off the top

635
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: of your head. One year? What is it? Six and

636
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Speaker 1: a half?

637
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 4: Six and a half.

638
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, nice coin for Rob.

639
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: I love everything about it. I played with Rob Ruth Snyder.

640
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: I can't even remember when, but he was kind of

641
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: just up and down. He was still trying to kind

642
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: of figure out his.

643
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 4: Way in the game.

644
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: You know, all of a sudden he ended up in

645
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: Boston and he kind of found his niche in this game,

646
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Speaker 2: and I love that. And I remember seeing him in

647
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: the off season, I think the year before he signed

648
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: that two year deal with Boston, and he wasn't even

649
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: sure he wanted to continue to play. Not because he

650
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: didn't love the game. He just had a young family

651
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: and as Krats knows, it weighs on you a lot

652
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: being gone, and he ended up sticking it out. He

653
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: found his niche in this game with Boston. He really

654
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: found his specialty. And I love that he got paid

655
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: for it because typically you see guys that even dominate

656
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: left handed pitching because it usually ends up being about

657
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: a third of the at bats that a.

658
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 4: Lefty would get. You know, normally they get.

659
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: Shafted on, you know, being a specialist. And I know

660
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: earlier this offseason we had talked about just the quality

661
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: of left handed pitching in the major leagues right now,

662
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: and majority of them are starting game one of the playoffs.

663
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: You need a guy like this if you're Seattle, if

664
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Speaker 2: you got to go up against a Trek Scooble in

665
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: game one of a wildcart series. So good for him

666
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: for finally, you know, getting a good payday, and good

667
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: for the Mariners for you know, paying a guy six

668
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: and a half million dollars to platoon because typically the

669
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: right handed platoon guys are the ones that you know,

670
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: end up with two or three million dollars, So good

671
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: for them paying them six and have million bucks.

672
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the fact that he did this at an

673
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 3: elite level is my favorite. Like I'm not saying he's

674
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: the best one available, I mean the best right handed

675
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: bat available to hit lefties. But when you look at

676
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: what he did is last two years ops plus over

677
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: one third, and people are gonna say, well, he's gonna

678
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: get overexposed in Seattle. Seattle had to go through Trek Scubele,

679
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 3: and they did. They beat him, But you know you're

680
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: gonna have to go through some quality lefties if you

681
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: want to win the American League, you were gonna have

682
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 3: to go through maybe Max Freed, Carlos Rodin, Trek Scubele,

683
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 3: Garrett Crochet like and I'm not even I'm not even

684
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 3: mentioning guys in there in their division right now. And

685
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: to me, he's the best one available. And he showed

686
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: I had it pulled up, how many like this is

687
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: a truly he can go in there, he can face

688
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 3: your lefties. But he has played this past year. He

689
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: played forty three games in the outfield, twenty nine of

690
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: them in right field, so he was bouncing around. He

691
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 3: DHD twenty times, and he played forty six in left field. Like,

692
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 3: and he's playing in Boston. That's a tough transition from

693
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: left field in Boston to right field in Boston. He

694
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: has really created since being a minor leaguer in the

695
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: Yankees organization. When he came up, it was like, I

696
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: mean on that on those minor league teams, it was

697
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: Tyler Austin, it was Aaron Judge, it was and he's

698
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: really good friends with Aaron Judge Tyler Wade, like guys

699
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 3: that were all prospects, and some of them have you know,

700
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: gone their separate ways Japan and utility guy and all

701
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 3: that stuff. He's really re upped his value since going

702
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 3: to Boston, similar to what like Randall Gritchik has done

703
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 3: in Arizona. It's like, hey, you you you gain that

704
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: value and all of a sudden, teams see what you

705
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: can bring. And defensively he's versatile enough. I think this

706
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: is a huge addition for the Mariners, but it can't

707
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 3: be enough. And at six point four to six point

708
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: five million what he got, it's a pretty expensive piece.

709
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: I love like with KP's said, I love that they

710
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: got him this, but it's it's a steep price. Let's

711
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: put it that way for somebody who's only going to

712
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: face lefties if you want him to have his most success.

713
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this is speaking my language exactly. One.

714
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: I know the difficulty of playing right field and left

715
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: field in Boston, and you know they're two completely different

716
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: worlds playing out there. But my point is a guy

717
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: like this, you look at his numbers, the eight thirty AOPs,

718
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: the one point thirty ops plus, you can't really put

719
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: an accurate number on it, because people don't realize the

720
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 2: difficulty it is to sit there on the bench only

721
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 2: face left handed pitching. You were subject to the rotation

722
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: that you were playing in the upcoming weeks of when

723
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: you were actually going to get a chance to play.

724
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 4: I platooned when.

725
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: I was in Atlanta, and there was days I went

726
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: seventeen days without that bat because we didn't face the

727
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: left handed starter, or my spot didn't come up with

728
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: a lefty reliever coming in. So you have to kind

729
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: of look at that number and you have to realize

730
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 2: the difficulty that it comes with staying ready every single day,

731
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: not knowing when your number is gonna get called off

732
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: the bench, and then ultimately being only playing when your

733
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 2: numbers called when a left handed starter goes. It's really

734
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 2: difficult to do. I wish there was like a scale

735
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: that you could just put a one p thirty ops

736
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: in compared to like a guy who plays every day, because,

737
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: as Kratzy knows, is a guy who had an opportunity

738
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: to play every day at some point is queer and

739
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: also coming off the bench. It's two completely different ballgames.

740
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Speaker 3: I would love that I would love that I wish

741
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: there was. I wish there was a formula too, because

742
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: everyone's like, yeah, but you hit this or you hit that.

743
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: Like if you take the best superstar and you put

744
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 3: them on the bench, like KP said, seventeen days in

745
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: a row, four days in a row of not playing,

746
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 3: and then two more days off and you don't play again.

747
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 3: Or when you do play, you're facing that lefty, they

748
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: bring a righty in and the seventh and you only

749
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 3: got two at bats. I would love to see where

750
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 3: that sliding scale of your success goes. It is. It's hard,

751
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 3: and so to have the numbers that ref Snyder has

752
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: at a one thirty eight ops plus and the year

753
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: before one thirty one, I bet that's actually higher. You know,

754
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 3: we value like defensively if or we value in positions.

755
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 3: If a catcher hits has one hundred ops plus league average,

756
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 3: he's league average, but position average, he's above average coming

757
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: off the bench only facing lefties. If you have that,

758
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 3: if you have a thirty eight percent higher ops plus

759
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: than the rest of the league, to me, that's higher.

760
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: That's more like a fifty percent Because of how hard

761
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: it is to come off the bench and be productive

762
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 3: for an entire season.

763
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: Also, remember that we love using the I would say

764
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: basic advanced stats like OPS plus or weighted runs created

765
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: plus is very similar. They do not factor in if

766
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: you're hitting against left handed or right handed pitching, so

767
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: you can put a little more value on someone who's

768
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: hitting lefties based off something that's become a trend in

769
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: the game. Left handed pitching tougher than ever. To hit

770
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: left handed pitching specifically has gotten so difficult, right, there's

771
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: the talent, there's the platooning that gets done with many players.

772
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: It's there's a whole mix. There's guys, right you got

773
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 1: rid of the loogi's the guys who really cannot get

774
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: a right out. They're not really in the league anymore.

775
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: So you add everything up, and that is why I

776
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 1: think Rob Refsnyder gets six and a half versus maybe

777
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: three and a half. Crats will go back to your

778
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: other point about the Mariners not enough. I think they're

779
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: done on the position player side. I mean, I know

780
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: they didn't bring back Coorge Polanco, but I'm just slicing

781
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: up the lineup right now and what I think they're

782
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: going to do. And we know Jerry Depoto likes to

783
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: swing a trade, so if there's some crazy opening in

784
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: terms of someone that's available on the market, he'll have

785
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: a conversation. But I think it's more likely that they

786
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: try and load up and trade for maybe yet another reliever.

787
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: They love Jose Ferrer and actually they made a great

788
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: point again talking lefty righty. Farrere is someone who can

789
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: come in as left you with three good pitches out

790
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: of the bullpen, including I think two that or plus

791
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 1: after essentially an entire rotation of right handed starting pitchers.

792
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: So they just felt like they needed more than most

793
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: teams do because they want to have you. I would say,

794
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: I would say ideally three high leveraged lefties, which is

795
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: difficult to do. So maybe I think they've got two now,

796
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: maybe they end up getting a third. But anyway, back

797
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: to the lineup for a second, Randy Rose Arena should

798
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: be playing every day. Cale Rowley's going to play every day,

799
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: Julio Rodriguez is going to play every day, Josh Naylor

800
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: is going to play every day. D H. Probably your

801
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: most common situation here is can Zone against righty's, who

802
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: actually had a crazy year against righty's, and then ref

803
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: Snyder against lefties. Obviously, ref Snyder can play other positions too,

804
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: but they've got Victor Roeblaz who will still probably get

805
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: a good chunk of time out there. That's the one

806
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: spot that you could look at as maybe a weaker

807
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: spot where he could be a fourth outbuilder for a

808
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: first division team versus what he was. JP Crawford's going

809
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: to play every day, and then you've got second and third.

810
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: Cole Young I think is taking up second base. They

811
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: love him. I know you're going to make a face

812
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: Crafts because he's young and unproven, but he's one of

813
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: the top prospects in baseball and this is his time now,

814
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 1: this is his year. He's twenty two and a half

815
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: right now, so next year I think will be his

816
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: age twenty three season. And then Ben Williamson over at third.

817
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: That's where you can make the case. Do they bring

818
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: Gino Suarez back even though he wasn't great with them

819
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: down the stretch, so you don't have two super youngsters

820
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: at second and third. What do you want to see done?

821
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: I mean I said it before and you we'll see

822
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 3: in my wish list later on. Kotel Marte would do

823
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:46,479
Speaker 3: for this team what I think the Mariners saw Josh

824
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: Naylor did for this team, not taking anything away from

825
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 3: cal Rally. Cal Rally was the reason they got to

826
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 3: where they were and did what they did. I get it.

827
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: But when you brought Josh Naylor in and he stole

828
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 3: twenty two bases in two months, when you bring in

829
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 3: a guy like you Hineo Suarez, who I think he

830
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: only had thirteen homers in his like fifty games he played,

831
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 3: I get it. He didn't do well. It changes the

832
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: look of that lineup for the other team when they're

833
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 3: attacking guys, and I think helped cal Ralely have success

834
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 3: the rest of the season and not fade or get

835
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: pitched around as much as he should have for a

836
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 3: guy that hit sixty homers. To me, I think if

837
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 3: you trade for Kateel Marte, I get what they're saying

838
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 3: about Cole Jung. He looks great. He's the PA guy,

839
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 3: so I'm always banging a drum for Pennsylvania guys that

840
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: need to come up. He's not gond tell Marte, and

841
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: that's okay. He hit two forty in the minor leagues

842
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: last year and that's okay. It doesn't mean he's not ready,

843
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 3: it just means not could tell Marte and it just

844
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 3: means Mariners have too often not done that last little thing.

845
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: And they did it last year and look how close

846
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 3: they got to make it the World Series. This team

847
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 3: has the pitching, kateel Marte puts them over the top.

848
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 3: And I say it the other day, I'll say it

849
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 3: again later on today they get him. They are the

850
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 3: best team in the American League.

851
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: Yep, it's a good call. And hey, I mean, I

852
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: just want to clarify. I completely agree. I think one

853
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: more movie is necessary. Could tell Marte or Brendan Donovan.

854
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: I'm just not positive they're going to go down that route.

855
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to go down the signing

856
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: route unless no one likes Gino Suarez and they get

857
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: him at a discount and they bring him back because

858
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: they love him. But otherwise I'm with you. The one

859
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: piece left, it's Donovan or it's kateel Marte. I just

860
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: don't know if they're actually going to do it. I

861
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: hope they do it. A couple quick hitters that we

862
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: didn't have time for earlier. Sean Neukom signed with the

863
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: White Sox. They're handing out money now, four and a

864
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 1: half million bucks on a one year contract. Jeff Passen

865
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: talked about how he was one of the most highly

866
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: sought left handed relievers on the market, so good for

867
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: the White Sox. That helps prove a little bit at

868
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: the margins. If Nukem looks great, you can usually flip

869
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: them at the deadline for a prospect, and you also

870
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: end up only paying what sixty percent or so of

871
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: that contract if the White Sox aren't playoff relevant. These

872
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: are the kind of moves that I think you should

873
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: be making left and right if you're the White Sox.

874
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: The way that you can catch up quickly. And we've

875
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 1: gone over this many times. Kevin is how the White

876
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: Sox should be able to spend their way out of

877
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: a rebuild a little bit quicker by making signings like

878
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: this and acquiring more prospects.

879
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 4: No doubt.

880
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: I think also read that he's going to compete for

881
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: a starting rotation job too. I don't think he's I

882
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: don't think he's signed there to be a reliever. I

883
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: think I had read that he's going to have a

884
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: chance to compete in the rotation and obviously if it

885
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: doesn't work out, his fallback he can be a legit

886
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: left handed weapon out of any bullpen. But yeah, I

887
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: think teams that are in a position like the White

888
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 2: Sox are in that need to, you know.

889
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 4: Do some things.

890
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: You go out and sign these players that you know

891
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: or only really commanding one year deals, given opportunity to play.

892
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: You have spots on your roster to fill.

893
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 4: Let him go out and play.

894
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: If you got to overpay a little bit, you know

895
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: you're only paying sixty percent of it because you're not

896
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: a playoff team, and go on acquire some prospects.

897
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: Yep, I'm with you, hey. And then last one, last

898
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: bit of news, and I truly think this was based

899
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: off yesterday's show. I'm not saying this to be hockey

900
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: or anything. We had Pete Alonso on the show yesterday

901
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: and one of our last questions was about how we

902
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 1: haven't heard any news about him linked to the World

903
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: Baseball Classic. He was part of that team last go Round?

904
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: What pops up? Hours later, Bryce Harper announced as the

905
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: first baseman for Team USA, or at least that he's

906
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: joining Team USA. Pete was like, dro call me, and

907
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: I'm looking and I'm thinking, why aren't they calling Pete yet?

908
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: Maybe they're waiting for Bryce to make a decision. Brice

909
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: didn't participate last go round, not that Pete can't still

910
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: join the team, but my guess is that there was

911
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 1: a wait see on Bryce first before they started exploring

912
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: phone calls to Pete, matt Olsen, maybe Michael Bush, guys

913
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: like that. So Krats, the timing was impeccable. We've had

914
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: all of these days on the calendar, and hours after

915
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: our conversation and Pete's public call out that got a

916
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: lot of play on social media, we get another member

917
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: of the World Baseball Classic USA squad at it, and

918
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: a great one for the USA fans out there in

919
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: Bryce Harper.

920
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: Don't think so highly of yourself, Scott that you're that

921
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 3: you're making that you're making trendy, trendy moves. But yeah,

922
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 3: one hundred percent, like it's time, it's time, you know,

923
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: maybe a call was made, Hey, Bryce Haye, how you feeling?

924
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 3: What's your what's your move? Because I know Pete, Pete

925
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 3: wants to Pete wants to play. I completely forgot, honestly,

926
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 3: Like when he said it yesterday, my mind's going, Okay,

927
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 3: who's going to play first? Can't you can't mess up

928
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 3: first base as a as team USA. I'm like there's

929
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 3: no way. I'm like, and I never thought of Bryce Harper,

930
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: Like he's right here in my backyard, and I'm like,

931
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: who's gonna play first? And I thought of Matt Olson,

932
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 3: and I'm like, man, there's no way, Like I haven't

933
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 3: heard anything about Matt Olsen, and then I never even

934
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 3: thought of Bryce Harper's. But good for Team USA. Look,

935
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 3: you can find a spot. You can find a spot

936
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: for Pete. You can even find a spot for Matt Olson.

937
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: You can have all three of them, bring them all like,

938
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 3: bring your lit's, just like you said in the movie,

939
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 3: bring your green hat, like we're going streaking in the

940
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: quad when the when the WBC.

941
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: You've got righty pop LEFTI pop with those guys first

942
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: base DH. We'll see how the rest of the roster

943
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: shakes out. Pete might still be part of it. But

944
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: I do think, yeah, Bryce saying let's do this had

945
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: a little bit to do with the oh hey, yeah,

946
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 1: it is December twenty third. I'd love to figure out

947
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: where I'm going to be in March. Am I going

948
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 1: to be justin spring training with the Ools? Or am

949
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: I going to be spending some time in the World

950
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: Baseball Classic? And two more orders of business crats hats,

951
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: and then a special shout out on the way out.

952
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously I got my Santa hat on. There's

953
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: no team on it. What you guys are. You guys

954
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 3: are my team. There actually is a Phillies Phillies Santa

955
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 3: hat that we have somewhere in the house and it

956
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 3: actually fits me a little bit better because it's a

957
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 3: little bit larger. But it was like it was a

958
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 3: gift to It was a gift to my son, I

959
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 3: think years ago. But anyway, you guys are my You

960
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 3: guys are my Christmas gift. I don't need to ask

961
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 3: for anything. I love having KP on the show. I

962
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 3: love working with Scott every day. I love working with

963
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 3: Gab and Claude and Jare and Mark and Michael sometimes

964
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 3: Justin and if I'm forgetting somebody, Olivia, like everybody, all

965
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 3: everybody behind the scenes, even Aj he's off gallivanting in Africa.

966
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: But this ft is my is my Christmas gift and

967
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 3: I love it and I love all the fans that

968
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 3: are here. So everybody, Marry Christmas. Honika just ended. Happy

969
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 3: Honikah and a happy New Year.

970
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, well said George and Vince and Sarah and so

971
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: many more. Frankie, I mean, the list goes on and on.

972
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: Behind the scenes, it's a big group and they're awesome,

973
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: and then we'll show one more tweet at the finish line.

974
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: We don't ask for this often, but when it does

975
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: get posted, we rarely show it on shows, and I'd

976
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: like to do it a little bit more frequently. Ref.

977
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: One of our OG's in the chat among many that

978
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: we love in there and the YouTube live chat every

979
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,479
Speaker 1: day said, apparently I'm the top one percent of Foul

980
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: Territory viewers on YouTube group chat confirmed. We're all certified sick. Ohs.

981
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Speaker 1: My wife thinks I have a problem. I think I

982
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: have priorities, no regrets. Top point one percent, not just

983
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Speaker 1: one percent. Ref. You showed us the screenshop point one

984
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: percent of viewers. You watched three hundred and forty nine

985
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: of our videos this year. That is dedication. We love

986
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: you and all of the ftfam that has been watching

987
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: us all year long. KPTE. Great to have you as

988
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: an addition to the team. Looking forward to a big

989
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: year and more announcements in twenty twenty six. Have an

990
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: awesome holiday, have a few on me, or actually just

991
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: put it on Santa's Tab tonight.

992
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 4: Okay, pet on Santa's Tab.

993
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 2: I gotta say Happy birthday to my mom too, to

994
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: my mom's birthday today.

995
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 4: Holidays are crazy.

996
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: My dad's birthdays the day after Christmas, so this is

997
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: like the official kickoff of the holiday.

998
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 4: Season for us.

999
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 2: So happy birthday, Mom, and love you guys. Thanks for

1000
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: having me. You guys have been a Christmas gift for

1001
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: me all along, allowing me to stay, you know, in baseball.

1002
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: And I'm excited to get up in the morning and

1003
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: check my phone to kind of stay in the loop

1004
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: of baseball. And you guys had given me a great outlet.

1005
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 2: So thank you guys.

1006
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: Have a we love having it.

1007
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 2: And Happy New Year.

1008
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 3: Your mom's got a birthday that's today.

1009
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 2: I gotta go, I gotta go here.