1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now, 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: and we got a new pope, everybody. That's the big 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: news of the day, no question about it. The Catholic 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Church has a new head, Leo the fourteenth, and now 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: everyone's diving into who is this guy? 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: What do we know about him? 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: And finding a lot of interesting information like the following. 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: So he was supposed to be a or supposedly a 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: close colleague of Pope Francises. He is from Chicago. He 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: served most of his career in Peru. He spoke in 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Italian and in Spanish, now the Spanish. Obviously, he had 12 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: lived in South America for most of the time he 13 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: was a priest. 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: Apparently didn't say anything. 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: In English, which is a little strange. I think some 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: people might have thought, well, that is your your mother 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: toung and there are Let me see what else am 18 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,919 Speaker 1: I picking up here, Clay, We're looking at Leo fourteen stuff. 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: He's he was called the social Pope. Leo was rather 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: the previous Leo. Pardon me, the previous Leo was the 21 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: social Pope. He wrote the Rrum Novarum, which is an 22 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: encyclical that called for a living wage. So people are 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: starting to see some things that are looking like he 24 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: could be a social justice heavy pope, and that that's 25 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: what we seem to have on our hands right now. 26 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: I saw the Sean You've probably seen it too, the 27 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: Sean Davis tweet that's getting a lot of attention. Should 28 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: we tell everybody about this one? 29 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: I mean, look, you want to hit it with it. 31 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 4: There's a bunch of stuff out there from his Twitter account. 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 4: This is one of the first popes probably ever that's 33 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 4: had a Twitter account. He's had an account since twenty eleven. 34 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 4: And a lot of it is reposts, a lot of 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 4: it is not direct quotes. But here's a comment, and 36 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 4: I think I mentioned this in the last hour, but 37 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 4: directly he said jd Vance is wrong. Jesus doesn't ask 38 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 4: for us to rank our love for others. That was 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 4: a comment that he made in February of twenty twenty 40 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 4: five and then LinkedIn article. And then he also back 41 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 4: in twenty fifteen, shared something from Cardinal Dolan at the 42 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 4: Washington Post. Now, Cardinal Dolan has had a good relationship 43 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: if I remember buck with Trump. He is New York's Cardinal, right, 44 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken. New York City area Cardinal why 45 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 4: Donald Trump's anti immigrant rhetoric is so problematic. That was 46 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 4: something that Cardinal Dolan wrote on July thirty first of 47 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 4: twenty fifteen. He shared both of those and then there 48 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 4: are multiple other posts that he has retweeted. One of 49 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 4: them says, I joined my vote voice and prayers to 50 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 4: those of my brother bishops that we might work hard 51 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 4: to end racism in our hearts and in society. May 52 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 4: God give comfort to the family of hashtag George Floyd 53 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 4: in this time of anguish Yes. He also said saying 54 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 4: Trump's bad ombre's line fuels racism and nativism. California Bishops 55 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 4: and preemptive blast on DACA repeal. You're not gonna like 56 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 4: this one. Buck reposted this from sister Helen Praijean. Pray Gene. 57 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: She's the Louisiana if I remember correctly, right activist. I 58 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: stand with the Dreamers and all people who are working 59 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 4: toward an immigration system that is fair, just and moral. 60 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 4: Hashtag defend DOCA hashtag DOCA and this is recent as 61 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 4: Trump and Bucheley use Oval fed's illicit deportation of a 62 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 4: US resident. DC Cardinal asked, do you not see the 63 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 4: suffering is your conscience not disturbed? How can you stay quiet? 64 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 4: And then all also he reposted Chris Murphy, Senator from 65 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: Connecticut to my colleagues, your cowardice to act cannot be 66 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: whitewashed by thoughts and prayers. None of this ends until 67 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 4: we do something to stop it. I think that was 68 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 4: potential violence. Probably yes, in Connecticut, in the shooting that 69 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 4: happened at the elementary school. No, that was andywet. I 70 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: think that's a Sandy hook tweet. All those Andy Hope 71 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 4: does not know anything about guns. But that's a whole 72 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 4: other conversation. Okay, So those are all things that are 73 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 4: being shared that he has shared on his social media account. 74 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 4: On the flip side, yeah, on the flip side, but Catholics. 75 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 2: On the flip side. 76 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 4: He has voted typically in Republican primaries throughout his voting history. 77 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 4: But those social media account comments, again some of them 78 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 4: are retweets, but suggestive that he may be actually that 79 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 4: he may be actually in some way a social justice warrior, 80 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 4: as priests and now popes go. So that is the background. 81 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 4: Positive story is that for the first time in the 82 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 4: history of the Catholic Church, there is an American born 83 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 4: pope from Chicago, went to Villanova, majored in math there 84 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 4: and has lived all over the country. But his most 85 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 4: recent tweet was criticism of Trump and Buqueley. So my 86 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 4: thought is, on some level, all right, Southern Baptist man, 87 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 4: go for it. I'm fired up over here, go for it. No, 88 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 4: my thought on some level is that this could be 89 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 4: seen by the Cardinals as some form of rebuke of Trump, 90 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 4: and they picked an American Catholic as a result. Now, 91 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 4: what's your announcements all this? I don't think. I don't 92 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 4: think that is that they're as focused in on that. 93 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 4: You know, we do a political first show here. I 94 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,119 Speaker 4: don't think that they're picking the pope based upon who's 95 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: going to be president or who is president in one 96 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 4: country of the of the hundreds of countries around the 97 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: world for the next few years. So I look, this 98 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 4: is a problem for a lot of us who are 99 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 4: on the right and who are Catholics. And I do 100 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 4: not hold myself out of somebody who is particularly active 101 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 4: or knowledgeable about the church these days. Although I did 102 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 4: grow up very much enmeshed in I mean, we used 103 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 4: to have clay, we used to have church before our 104 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: first soccer game, or our first basketball game of the season. 105 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 4: I don't mean on a Sunday. I mean like it 106 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 4: was Monday morning, like first day of this season. Time 107 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 4: to go to church. 108 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: And we used to go to church all the time 109 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: when I was in school, and we had chapel every 110 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: morning for ten years at my Catholic school growing up. 111 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, I've spent a lot of time in these 112 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: places and hearing this. The challenge you have is, I mean, 113 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: the George Floyd thing is is pretty remarkable. I just 114 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: could say, you know, there's just a poll that came 115 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: out yesterday that most people realize that the whole BLM 116 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: thing just made everything work. What I've been saying for years, 117 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: what you've been saying for year, made everything worse and 118 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: did not make anything better, nothing correct, no improvement from 119 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: any of that, all of that. But this is about 120 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: a racial reckoning and racial justice. No, actually it's not. 121 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: It was race riots and it was horrible and hurt 122 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: the country. So anyway, the results now are are are 123 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: in on that, I mean, the polling results at least. 124 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: The challenges you have here are one. Let's just take 125 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: this issue of the rebukes of and can I You've 126 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: got a lot of very active Catholics, like some you 127 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: could call in and do the whole call in Latin. Okay, 128 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: light us up here eight hundred two A two two 129 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: eight A two. Some of youple have much more passionate 130 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: feelings about this specific choice and are going to want away. 131 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: And Clay already said if you happen to know this 132 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: pope from when he was in Chicago, that would be 133 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: very interesting. Maybe one of you had him as a 134 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: roommate at Villanova. Hey, who knows, I mean, what do this? 135 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: Don't mean if they're already to do some case stands, 136 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: you never know, But I am I'm curious to hear 137 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: from all of you about this or we really are 138 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: going to line up rack and stack a bunch of 139 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: calls on how you feel about this. But Clay, you know, 140 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: for example, to call out JD. Van s or to 141 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: call out Bouqueley. Really, that's that's where the worst human 142 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: rights stuff is going on. This is just left wing 143 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: and doctrination. I mean, I know that now he's you know, 144 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: he's going to be consecrated as the pope and it's 145 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: a big deal, But he was just a priest before this, 146 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: and he was a priest that clearly held some very 147 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: left wing views, you know, not talking about about the 148 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: the assault on Christians in the Muslim world, or the 149 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: suppression of Christianity and just general authoritarianism in China, and 150 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: not talking of any There are so many areas, so 151 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: many things you could go into here, or so many leaders. 152 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: You could call out. 153 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: What about all these European leaders who are effectively for euthanasia, 154 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: abortion all well, depends on which European country. Abortion usually 155 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: about six and six of the months of a pregnancy. 156 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: It depends on where you are. You know, all all 157 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: of the gender ideology stuff, the destruction of the family, 158 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: the destruction of marital relationships, or rampant pornography, and I 159 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: mean just all that stuff that is supported by a 160 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: lot of leaders in the Western world. And you're calling 161 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: out Boukale, What about what about saying thanks Boukeley for 162 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: taking the murder rate from one of the worst in 163 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: the world to one of the lowest in the world 164 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: and saving thousands and thousands of lives and hundreds of 165 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: thousands of people's lives in the sense that they didn't 166 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: just lose a family member or lose the guy that 167 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: was employing them. In the business or whatever, because they 168 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: weren't murdered by some cartelmaniacs. This is what you have 169 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: a tough time. I had a very tough time with 170 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: the last Pope, and I just chose not to speak 171 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: to my very I have some very devout Catholic family members, 172 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: and I cannot talk to them. I couldn't talk to 173 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: them about the last Pope really because I had nothing 174 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: good to say about a lot of the statements climate 175 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: change stuff. It's a little like when a pope talks 176 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: about guns. There's just a lot of a lot of 177 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: ignorance and a bit of hubris, just saying, you know, 178 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: if you don't know, you don't know. 179 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: I don't care what your role is. 180 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: So, like I said, I will put this out there, 181 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: but I hope that this Pope is fantastic on a 182 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: whole range of other issues, and maybe there's an opening 183 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: here for some great things to happen. I am hopeful, 184 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: as one should be, that this Pope will be great. 185 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 4: I would point out that when he shared two different 186 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 4: posts about Trump and also about JD. Vance, there was 187 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 4: well knowledge that Pope Francis was not well. And if 188 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 4: you were playing the politics game and you were an American, 189 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 4: I bet it does not hurt to not be pro 190 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: Trump if you are trying to ascend to become pope. 191 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: Look, so this is like this is a so Now, 192 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: I had a grandparent who was very Catholic, as in 193 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: I went to church not just every Sunday, but like 194 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: random times during the week for her whole life. And 195 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: but was also really into what what I would call 196 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: the left wing. There's really there's really Catholic mark, there's 197 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: a Catholic Marxist wing of the church. There's a she 198 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: even subscribes to something called the Catholic Worker, which is 199 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: effectively Catholic Communists, which I you know, Communism is always 200 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: radically in practice, radically anti Catholic, anti God, and horrifically destructive. 201 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: And I would even argue demonic. But unfortunately, you know, 202 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: the devil, the devil is the father of lies and 203 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: often presents himself, so to speak, as something quite appealing. 204 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: And I think for a lot of Catholics, the well, 205 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: we are all supposed to just give all we have 206 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: and go follow Jesus, and that means we should have 207 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: open borders and nobody should be wealthy. 208 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 209 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: I mean the Vatican's got a lot of fancy artwork 210 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: like this stuff starts to get really tough for people 211 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: in the real world application. Again, there's a difference between 212 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: the doctrine of the Church and what the Pope says 213 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: as his opinion on things. And yeah, I on the 214 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: doctrine stuff aligned on the pope's opinion stuff. I often 215 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: find myself not aligned, and I wonder how many of 216 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: you have the same have the same feelings. But on 217 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: the good side of things, he's American, so we got 218 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: that going for us. 219 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: He's voted in a lot of Republican primaries, and. 220 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: He's voted Republican. Well, I give him credit for this, 221 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: and that's actually a very important reminder. I don't understand 222 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: how you can be a practicing and believing, a practicing 223 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: believing Catholic and vote for the Democrat Party. And one 224 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: of my problems would be that this pope, for example, 225 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: calls out JD events. I mean, based on the church's 226 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: own doctrine, I mean Joe Biden. People that advocate for 227 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: abortion for all nine months of her pregnancy and their 228 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: public role should be excommunicated from the church. But they 229 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: don't do that. Even just have a called out. They 230 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: won't do that, and that I think is a huge problem, 231 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: a huge problem for a lot of us who say, okay, 232 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: so you'll call out jd Vance or something on some 233 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: I don't even know what it was on like being 234 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: open borders, which there's really also I mean, I think 235 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: that some priests don't really understand this. To be honest 236 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: with you, I studied with a lot of Jesuits. We're 237 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: very smart on some things and truly ignorant on others. 238 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: And you know, they're not people that have had to 239 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: pay a lot of bills. Just put it that way. 240 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: They effectively live in communes. I mean they are in essence, 241 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: the Society of Jesus is the closest thing to a 242 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: functioning an actual functioning communist system, at least the theoretical 243 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: practice of it that you'll find anywhere. And that's a 244 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: joke that a Jesuit actually told me. So they don't 245 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: understand things like if you have an open border in 246 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: this country, all of the public welfare and you know, 247 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: programs to help the poor in this country effectively go 248 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: under because you're saying that all of these people have 249 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: a claim to the programs that we have they're meant 250 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: to help people. And by the way, if you don't 251 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: pay into those programs the form of taxes, you go 252 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: to prison because men with guns come and arrest you 253 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: in the name of the state. It's not as simple 254 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: as just like we've got a lot of food, we're 255 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: gonna feed everybody. 256 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 4: I'd also point out he's from Peru now, And so 257 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 4: I look at it politically, a lot of these guys 258 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 4: are not going to be trying to draw attention to themselves. 259 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 4: They're going to try to stay in whatever is considered 260 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,479 Speaker 4: to be the main stream. That's fine, and then ultimately 261 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 4: the buck stops with you, no pun intended when you 262 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 4: become the guy at the head of the Catholic church. 263 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 4: So sometimes you don't have any idea how a politician 264 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 4: is going to lead until they actually end up in 265 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 4: a position of power because they've been trying to kind 266 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 4: of hide in the current. For lack of a better 267 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 4: way to describe it, I would think if you're trying 268 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 4: to become the first American pope, there are probably people 269 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 4: lied against you because of America's power in the world, 270 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 4: and so I see it as kind of an attempt 271 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 4: to camouflage yourself within the flow of whatever direction the 272 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 4: river is going in some way looking at some of 273 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 4: these breadcrumbs for lack of another way to describe it 274 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 4: on the social media accounts, but I'm curious to any 275 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 4: of you know them. We'll take your calls. 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That's pound two five zero. 292 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: News and politics, but also a little comic relief. 293 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 294 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 4: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 295 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 4: get your podcast. 296 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We were going to 297 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: take a lot of calls from all of you listeners 298 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: out there. We are going to take I think we're 299 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: gonna I don't know we allowed to do this. We're 300 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: gonna take calls from our Catholic listeners. 301 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: First. 302 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to get at any trouble here on 303 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: how they feel about the new Pope, But any of 304 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: you who want to weigh in, who have strong feelings 305 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: on this one, just make sure you know as we 306 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: take calls, space opens up, because every line I think 307 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: is lit right now. But just remember as a call goes, 308 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: more calls can come in. So light us up and 309 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: we'll take a whole bunch of them. Because that's a 310 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: big moment, a big moment in the Catholic Church, a 311 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: big moment for Christianity and in America because we got 312 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: the first American pope. Just some other breaking news that 313 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: I think would be a huge story except today, and 314 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: that is the FBI has reportedly officially opened a full 315 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: on investigational investigation into Attorney General Letitia James in response 316 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: to that DOJ referral, So Letitia James Clay could be 317 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: in a position here where as the Attorney General, she 318 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: has to explain why she doesn't have to. 319 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: Be held to the same rule as everybody else. 320 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 4: We'll definitely dive into that tomorrow, as that news would 321 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 4: otherwise be very significant on today. But we got elected 322 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 4: a American pope, which is truly a historic occasion. I 323 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 4: told you this off air when I was in Vatican 324 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 4: City a couple of years ago, touring everything. I asked, 325 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 4: what are the chances there ever being an American pope? 326 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 4: And my tour guys Italians just kind of laughed, like, oh, 327 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 4: they'll never be an American pope because your country is 328 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 4: seen as too powerful and they don't want America to 329 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 4: also have a pope. 330 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: Well they were wrong, and it's kind of amazing. 331 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: For years now, those living in Israel have known that 332 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: Americans have their back as a nation. 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Not that 350 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 4: it's a proxy for anything that is definitely moving around, 351 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 4: but my seventeen year old texted me American Pope exclamation point, 352 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 4: And I think that is probably going to be the 353 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 4: biggest takeaway from most people around the United States is 354 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 4: that we now have for the first time ever an 355 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 4: American pope. Pope Leo the fourteenth Robert Prevost, an American 356 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 4: born pope from Chicago, sixty nine years old, got a 357 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 4: math degree at Villanova, has lived in Peru for some time, 358 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 4: and he will be the new pope coming on May eighth, 359 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 4: which is the eightieth anniversary of victory in Europe day, 360 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 4: a day that America had quite a lot to say 361 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 4: with that victory. Also Trump announcing new tariff agreement with 362 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 4: England and the stock market doing quite well. A lot 363 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 4: of you want to weigh in on the new pope. 364 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 4: Let's just go right in the order that I have 365 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 4: them lined up right here, Brian in Summerfille, North Carolina, 366 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 4: what you got for us? 367 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 5: Brian, Hey, guys, to be honest with you, as an 368 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 5: American Catholic, I really don't care that we have an 369 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 5: American pope. What I really care about is what are 370 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 5: his teachings going to be? And I'm not all that 371 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 5: happy about who they picked. As I was telling the screen, 372 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 5: there's one hundred and thirty three guys that go into 373 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 5: that room and they are supposed to be listening to 374 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 5: the Holy Spirit. But I will remind everybody. They are men. 375 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 5: They may have heard the Holy Spirit God gave us 376 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 5: free will. We could listen to it and actually put 377 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 5: that on the paper, or we can deny it and 378 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 5: do something else. And I am just kind of afraid 379 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 5: that we have a Vatican much like we did in 380 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 5: World War Two. We have a Vatican much like the 381 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 5: Jews had when Jesus was around with the Pharisees. You know, 382 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 5: we have people in charge now at the Vatican who 383 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 5: are more worried about what is happening in this world 384 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 5: then how to get to the next world. So, yeah, 385 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 5: I'm to be honest with you, I'm not all that 386 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 5: joyful about who this new pope is. 387 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 4: Thank you for the call Buck as the Catholic on 388 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 4: the show. Any of those things ring true for you, 389 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 4: or how would you assess your overall thoughts here? I 390 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 4: don't think any of us expected this guy kind of 391 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 4: came out of nowhere to be selected. 392 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how much it matters that he's 393 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: American other than I assume his English is good, so 394 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:33,239 Speaker 1: that's helpful, But beyond that, and I mean, look, it's 395 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: a cool first for America, I should say. I just 396 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: don't know how much that will affect his tenure and 397 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: what he does as the leader of the Catholic flock. 398 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: We'll have to see. 399 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, we just found out who 400 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: the guy is. I had never even heard of him 401 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: till a minute ago. So I'm learning on the fly 402 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: like so many others. 403 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 4: Here Walker in Jersey City. What you got Forrest Walker? 404 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 6: You know, I just think this is uh. I think 405 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 6: that that not to sound jaded, but I think this 406 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 6: is a good business decision on the Catholic Church's part. 407 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 6: I think the United States is the richest, most powerful 408 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 6: country in the world, and UH, the Catholic population has 409 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 6: been declining here. I think this will help grow the 410 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 6: church in the United States. I think uh. I live 411 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 6: in Hudson County, New Jersey, and I've seen school after 412 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 6: school close down, Catholic school after Catholic school closed down 413 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 6: in the last ten years. I think it. I think 414 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 6: the Catholic Church needs a boost in the United States. 415 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 6: And I also think that that this new pope will 416 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 6: work work to uh to fight to things that have 417 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 6: been going on with Ortega in Nicolagua and UH. And 418 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 6: you know the political part of it, You're You're just 419 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 6: always gonna have Popes are always going to be pretty 420 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 6: pretty uh. I think they're pretty going to be pretty 421 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 6: pretty liberal to begin with. 422 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 4: Thanks for the call. Obviously a wide variety of perspectives. 423 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 4: There is evidence that he is a Republican who voted 424 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 4: in Illinois. There are social media posts that suggests that 425 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 4: he may not be a big Trump. 426 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 2: JD. Van's Guy Anthony and Boston fire Away. 427 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, so so listen. The thing about this this guy 428 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 7: is I'm a former Catholic, but I've heard him on 429 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 7: the past couple of days. I think they wanted an outside, 430 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 7: especially from America, because the Vatican there's a big trouble 431 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 7: cash wise, financially, the allegations of money and wandering, and 432 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 7: I think they wanted someone from the outside to come in. 433 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 7: And they're so desperate that, you know, Francis in his 434 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 7: dying days, he actually put out an either begging to 435 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 7: get more money out of the congregations. And the two 436 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 7: lodges donors by country in the world are the United 437 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 7: States and Germany, and they definitely don't want to They 438 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 7: want a German bok who what happened last time? He 439 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 7: was too strict. Also, this American, this American who's now 440 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 7: the Holy Father. He's going to have to decide what 441 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 7: he's going to decide with Trump. Just days ago the 442 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 7: Trump administration Tommy Dolan, she filed out during the state 443 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 7: of Washington and deciding with the outsizes of Seattle because 444 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 7: Washing state is infringing upon their religious rights. They want 445 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 7: to make them could have their confessions be able to 446 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 7: be told as a mandated report, and the Catholic Church 447 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 7: is pushing back against it. So Trump deciding with the 448 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 7: Catholic Church. He's going to be big for Catholics in 449 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 7: America because these two Catholics. There's the Heathen ones that 450 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 7: I see, I was a Cavil. Then there's the immigrant ones. 451 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 7: And this guy definitely he's pro migrants, he's pro underserved communities, 452 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 7: and he could the media could use this man to 453 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 7: take advantage of Like you know, this is what the 454 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 7: Catholic Church does. And I just hope not I really 455 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 7: just hope. But the other calls it he saves souls 456 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 7: because that's the main mission of the church, but it 457 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 7: appears it's a business decision. That's only my opinion. But 458 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 7: like I said, just recently, this Trump administration to put 459 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 7: investigation against the out sizes to Seattle. So we'll see 460 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 7: what happened. 461 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 2: Thank you for calling. Here's what I would say. 462 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 4: I do think caller is right that when the Pope 463 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 4: makes decisions that are seen as being in conflict with 464 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 4: Trump or JD vance the United States leadership, it will 465 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 4: be covered as a more significant factor than it would 466 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 4: have been covered if the pope were not from America. 467 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: Does that make sense to you. 468 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 4: I mean it will be seen even though he's lived 469 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 4: in Peru for a long time and he obviously represents 470 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 4: the entire world of Catholics, it will be seen as 471 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 4: a more direct rebuttal of Trump, and to be fair, 472 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 4: a more direct validation of Trump if he signs on 473 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: in agreement, just in the way that the American media, 474 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 4: I think in particular, will cover this. 475 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: Let's go to Jacqueline in Brooklyn. 476 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 2: What's going on, Jacqueline, Hello. 477 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 8: Gentlemen, I happen to agree with a lot of what you. 478 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 8: Every single one of your previous callers have said. I 479 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 8: am myself a practicing Catholic, and I have to say 480 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 8: I right off the bat, I'm a little disappointed in 481 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 8: this particular choice based on what this pope has said himself. 482 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 8: He opens up by talking about saving the refugees of 483 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 8: the world, letting them in. He did not speak out 484 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 8: openly and first and foremost about abortion, which is supposed 485 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 8: to be one of the most central doctrines of the 486 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 8: Catholic Church, especially with the former president that we had 487 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 8: in the last administration and the former Speaker of the 488 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 8: House that we had at the last administration, that I 489 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 8: think goes along in line with what some of your 490 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 8: previous callers have said. He should be focused on how 491 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 8: to get to the next world instead of the physical 492 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 8: world that we're living in. But we need to remember 493 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 8: the Pope is a religious politician the same way generals 494 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 8: are military politicians. And one of the things that I 495 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 8: agree with is that this was a political decision that 496 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 8: the church made. I would like to see him speak 497 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 8: more about church doctrine and not so much about political agendas. 498 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 8: And I think that's where he's heading very much the 499 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 8: way Francis was. 500 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: You know, this is something, Jacqueline that as I'm listening 501 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: to you speak, this is buck and when I have 502 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: gone to church in recent years, it's always hard for 503 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: me because I can tell you many times I have 504 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: sat there and from the pulpit, I have been lectured 505 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: about BLM, or I have been lectured about climate change, 506 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: or I'm being in a Catholic church. I don't think 507 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: I've heard a priest talk about abortion in the last 508 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: five years, one time, one time from the pulpit, right, 509 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: So this starts to get to what are we really 510 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: pushing here? 511 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: Guys? You know, what are we really doing? 512 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: And I hope that whoever this new pope is, he 513 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: sticks to what the churches is right on and what 514 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: it should be focused on and doesn't start to sound 515 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: like an MSNBC contributor for no reason, because I've seen 516 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of that among Catholic Catholic priests, 517 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: so that's unfortunate, but that is true. 518 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 4: A lot of people loaded lines. You might imagine Matthew 519 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 4: in Ramona, California. 520 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 3: What do you think, hey man, how y'all doing great shows? 521 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: Hey listen, I'm confident and you know, I'm from a 522 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: small town. There's only a handful of Catholic and the 523 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: great thing is it brings in everybody. And you know, 524 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: the one thing is they didn't have the picture of 525 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 3: the last pope on their wall, and that's well, you know, 526 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: we have very conservative parish, small town, you know. But 527 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 3: I think let's let's be confident, let's be happy, let's, 528 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 3: you know, do everything. And like the great Rush Limbaugh 529 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: once said, when Larren Thomas was nominated the Supreme Court, 530 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 3: he goes, I'm confident, and gosh started he sure was. 531 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: And y'all do great job, man, Thank you very much. 532 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 4: Joe and Cape Coral, Florida, Joe fire Away. 533 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 9: Yes, I'm a practicing Catholic. I've been since nineteen forty six, 534 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 9: you want to put it that way. I was never 535 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 9: a favorite of Pope Francis. 536 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 6: Never liked him. 537 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 9: I thought he was woke, being American pope. That's good 538 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 9: as long as he keeps the doctrin of the church. 539 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 9: As that one woman said, I don't care about his opinion, 540 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 9: and we don't have to listen to his opinions. He 541 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 9: just must go by the Catholic Church. Biden should have 542 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 9: been excommunicated from the Catholic Church. All of them are scared. 543 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 9: I live in a city that had WGQ Day in 544 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 9: the city, and I asked the priest why the Catholics 545 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 9: here aren't standing up against this stuff? You know, when 546 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 9: they say one thing the opposite. So I'll give this 547 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 9: pope the chance, but I don't care what his opinion is, 548 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 9: like a Republican. 549 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: Well and an American which is also pretty cool. But yes, 550 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: agree with you, sir on on the you don't have 551 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: That's that's why I was saying before X Catherine is 552 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: speaking from the throne of Saint Peter. 553 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 2: Uh. 554 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: That's one thing, right, when you're actually talking about church doctrine, 555 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: and any kind of change in that doctrine will be 556 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: a major thing. But the church, I mean, the pope 557 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: just saying this is what I think about this or 558 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: that you can take you can take that or leave it. 559 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: That's not the same. 560 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: Thing as as speaking with the Uh, the full force 561 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: of the Church and it's and it's doctrine behind him. 562 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: VI p email from Shila. All these opinions on the pope. Oh, 563 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: Jesus said, the gates of Hell will not prevail against 564 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: his church. Let's just remember there have been good and 565 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: bad popes and the church is still going and will 566 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: believe Jesus he's in charge. Thank you for your show. 567 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, Sheila. Yeah, it's an important point. I mean, 568 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, we can sit here and talk about the 569 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: history of popes, and it has been a colorful thing, 570 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: to be sure, especially you go back far enough in time, 571 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: it gets really interesting. But the Church will ensures and 572 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: is a source of so much goodness and godliness. For 573 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: I think it's about a billion four billion five Catholics 574 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: around the world. 575 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 4: So speaking of those Catholics around the world, you are one. 576 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 4: Jd Vance just weighed in. Congrats the Leo the fourteenth, 577 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 4: the first American pope on his election. I'm sure millions 578 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 4: of American Catholics and other Christians will pray for his 579 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 4: successful work leading the church. May God bless him that 580 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 4: in the last minute from Jadie Vance. 581 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 2: Excellent stuff from J. 582 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: Jd Vance doesn't miss you know, as far as I'm concerned, 583 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: this guy is a super consistent on saying the right 584 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: thing and taking the right position. So yeah, I think 585 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: that that's where I am too. I am hoping that 586 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: this will be a fantastic pope, will reinvigorate the Catholic 587 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: Church in a lot of places around the world where 588 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: could really use that more and more. In this country, Clay, 589 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: there are young people like twenties thirties who are turning 590 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: to the Catholic Church because they realize a society soaked 591 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: in weed and alcoholism and selfies and porn everywhere and 592 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: all this stuff and trying to be a boss guy 593 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: or a boss girl, and materialism is one that has 594 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: inherent existential crises for the people that chase that life 595 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: and they want structure, they want belief, they want God, 596 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: and the Catholic Church is providing that to more and 597 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,479 Speaker 1: more young people who are seeking it out. It's one 598 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: thing to be born into. I was born into a 599 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: very Catholic family. It's another thing, I think for people 600 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: as they get older, to say, I seek out this 601 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: church and it's because of what it has stood for 602 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: for thousands of years. 603 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 4: We'll come back. We'll take some more of your reactions. 604 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 4: Big major breaking news. 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A lot of 637 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: interesting stuff going on here, and a lot of you 638 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 1: are weighing in on this. 639 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: Appreciate all of that. 640 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: Of course, let's see Steven Denver wants to talk to us. 641 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 10: What's going on, Steve, Yeah, Hey, Bark and Clay, Hey, 642 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 10: my son is a priest. He's been a priest for 643 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 10: three years. I'm a devout Catholic. I think it's great. 644 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 10: Remember everything we heard from Francis was through the liberal 645 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 10: media that with this quote Trump all the time. And 646 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 10: I'll tell you, looking at the new seminarians and the 647 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 10: new priests coming out, they're all Lions and they're all Orthodox. 648 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 10: There ain't no Libs among them. I think the church 649 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 10: is in great shape, and I think this will help 650 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 10: church membership in the United States, and I think that's great. 651 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 4: I agree with that call in general. I'm not Catholic, 652 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,439 Speaker 4: but I think that I was just using my son 653 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 4: as an example, who's seventeen. I think a lot of 654 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 4: people just think it's super cool that there is a 655 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 4: pope who is an American. And I don't know how 656 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 4: he's going to do a lot of people weighing in. 657 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 4: But I actually agree with that caller that as a 658 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 4: layperson out here, I think the general vibe I think 659 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 4: jd Vance handled it well, Donald Trump handled it well, 660 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 4: is just Hey, it's awesome to have a pope who 661 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 4: is an American citizen, which most of us thought we 662 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 4: would never see. 663 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: Vip, Lynnette. Some of these callers are so pessimistic. I 664 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: believe the majority of called of cardinals picked whom the 665 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 1: Holy Spirit and nudge them to pick. I'm ecstatic. Let's 666 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,479 Speaker 1: be hopeful and give the man a chance, super fun 667 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: time to live through. Please listen to some positive calls. 668 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: I am Catholic, and I believe the vast majority are thrilled. 669 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: Everyone in my family is, and my friends are. Well, Lynnette, 670 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: you're closing up the show today pretty much with that 671 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: positive note. As a Catholic and speaking, I'm sure for 672 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: so many Catholics it is a wondrous day. And yes, 673 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: hopefully this is a pick straight from the mouth, so 674 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: to speak, of the Holy Spirit, and we will have 675 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: a fantastic leader of the church going forward, and this 676 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: is a good thing. We will follow up with more 677 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: on this tomorrow, and also a bunch of other stories 678 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: today that we had to put on the cutting room 679 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 1: floor that are actually a big deal, like Letitia James 680 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: full investigation by the FBI. 681 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 2: We'll talk more about that tomorrow