WEBVTT - Ep. 172: BEAR GREASE [RENDER] - Glaciers, Wolves and Black Panthers

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Clay Nukeleman. This is a production of

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<v Speaker 1>the bear Grease podcast called The bear Grease Render, where

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<v Speaker 1>we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 1>of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f h

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<v Speaker 1>F Gear, American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear

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<v Speaker 1>that's designed to be as rugged as the place as

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<v Speaker 1>we explore.

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<v Speaker 2>Brent, I appreciate that you got your hunter orange wedding

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<v Speaker 2>ring on today.

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<v Speaker 3>I am don't get shot walking through the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the bear Grease Render. This is a this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is our Christmas episode. Oh did you guys

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<v Speaker 1>know it?

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<v Speaker 3>I did?

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is the Christmas episode. It's great to

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<v Speaker 1>have everybody got a great group of people today. We're

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<v Speaker 1>actually going to have there is one very special guest,

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<v Speaker 1>surprise guest, surprise Christmas guest that's going to be coming

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<v Speaker 1>in here in just a minute. But oh and here

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<v Speaker 1>she comes. Now come.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this making an official tradition since the second.

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<v Speaker 1>Year your headset. This is my mother Juju Newkeom. She

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<v Speaker 1>just has a small Christmas message for all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>She's brought what have you brought us?

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<v Speaker 3>Judu?

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<v Speaker 4>The Christmas cookies? I bring every here. Okay, I do

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<v Speaker 4>have to admit I have a little help this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>My sister Cindy told me how good the Sam's decorated

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<v Speaker 4>Christmas cookies. And I had a busy, busy week, but

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't want to forget that It's Christmas and we've

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<v Speaker 4>got to celebrate.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit with cookies.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>The next best thing was nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, So we have a beautiful plate, Brett, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you describe these cookies.

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<v Speaker 5>We got white and green trees shaped cookies that are

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<v Speaker 5>decorated with icing and little sprinkles.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked how my mom brought those in a plastic box,

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<v Speaker 1>took them in my house and then put them on

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<v Speaker 1>a Christmas plate and put cellophane over it looks it

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<v Speaker 1>looks okay, Juju your Christmas message? What would you like

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<v Speaker 1>to say to the bear Grease people?

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to say that I can't believe it's

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<v Speaker 4>been a year. I remember last year Bailey was with us,

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<v Speaker 4>gave such a sweet little message. I was hoping she'd

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<v Speaker 4>be here today. I just want to wish everybody merry Christmas.

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<v Speaker 4>And just I love reading y'all's comments to Clay.

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<v Speaker 1>She is very protective of.

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<v Speaker 4>Specially love is when you mentioned your kids and how

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<v Speaker 4>you're happy that that that Clay can do a podcast

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<v Speaker 4>that the kids can listen to, and I just think

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<v Speaker 4>that is souper. So get Merry Christmas. I hope y'all

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<v Speaker 4>have a great Christmas, celebrate with your families.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Juju, Thank you excellent.

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<v Speaker 3>She reminded me of this is a review that I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>Today We solve iTunes.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we need to pray for this guy because apparently

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<v Speaker 5>he died in the middle of it.

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<v Speaker 3>It says both shows are great.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope Country Life sticks around, but he gave us

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<v Speaker 5>five stars before.

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<v Speaker 1>You all right, well, thanks Ju, thank you, Jujuy, passed

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<v Speaker 1>those around, pass the cookies around green Okay, So we

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<v Speaker 1>have Brent Reeves here from this Country Life podcast. Brent,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to come back to you and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the Meteor Live shows that you were

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<v Speaker 1>just on cool here, you were a big hit. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a very special guest. He's been on here a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times. Bear John, the greatest Hunter.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, yeah, me too, my favorite new come a

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<v Speaker 5>hunter right here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I described when I'm trying to tell people

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<v Speaker 1>about Bear I'm like, if you turn me and Barry

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<v Speaker 1>loose in the same woods with a bow, and said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the guy who kills the deer first wins.

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<v Speaker 3>A car, right, Like, you're walking home.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'd probably be walking home. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was at school the other day talking to Bear

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<v Speaker 2>and he was he was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you hold on? Did you hear that beep? People

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<v Speaker 1>have accused me of that being a microwave going on

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<v Speaker 1>he's heating up. No, it's not a microwave for some reason.

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<v Speaker 1>My uh my, my computer beeps. So carry on.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, Joshua day and and he's got one tag left

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<v Speaker 2>right Bear, yep, one do tag?

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<v Speaker 3>One do tag?

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, I'm gonna take it with a traditional.

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<v Speaker 1>Bo mm hmm self bow.

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<v Speaker 2>And he found a good spot. But he concocted this

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<v Speaker 2>scenario that I thought, that will never work. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I try to be supportive, but that'll never work. He

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<v Speaker 2>comes back to the next day.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's why he's here. Later, he's gonna tell us

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<v Speaker 1>what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>So what what's the title of this of this method

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<v Speaker 2>the scent pouch sent bundle.

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<v Speaker 1>Since sim Fondle Bear has a news strategy, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about fabulous. Yeah, so Bear John's here to

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<v Speaker 1>Bear Johns left, Colby Morehead, Bear Honey Magazine, the man.

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<v Speaker 6>Yep, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to me.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been on You've been on here several times. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>so Colby, uh So. For eight years before I worked

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<v Speaker 1>for Meat Eater, I owned and operated Bear Honting Magazine,

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<v Speaker 1>the world's only print Bear Honey Magazine been in print

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<v Speaker 1>for over twenty three years. Colby worked with me for

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<v Speaker 1>several years and pretty much was running the magazine for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when I went to Meet Eater, Colby now

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<v Speaker 1>owns just miraculously, just like I am. We don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know how it happened. Now owns and operates Bear Honey

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<v Speaker 1>Magazine is sir, which which we gave a little plug

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<v Speaker 1>last week for full cry. Oh yeah, so now this

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<v Speaker 1>week it's Bear Honey Magazines. I like it and you

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<v Speaker 1>need to subscribe to Bear Honey Magazine. It's just got

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<v Speaker 1>all types of bear hunting across the country, outfitters, all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of stuff. It's great, good stuff. Good to be here, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>To Kolby's left, Josh Lambridge Spilmmaker. Great to see everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh is the fashion, the fashion eiast of the Bear

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<v Speaker 1>Grease podcast. I wish it was me. I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a like a howl or shirt with a little

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<v Speaker 1>got some embroidery on the shoulder. Yeah, embroidery. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you just always look cool. Well, I mean you are

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<v Speaker 1>wearing muck boots.

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<v Speaker 3>Boots covered in deer brains.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, Well you look good, Josh, You're looking good.

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<v Speaker 1>To Josh's left, Gary Believer Nukem, which it's very important

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<v Speaker 1>that's usually here, but it's very important that he's here

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<v Speaker 1>today because on this episode of The Render, which if

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<v Speaker 1>you're new to this, you know, The Render is when

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about the podcast that just came out, and

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<v Speaker 1>we did something this week that we have never done

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of Bear Grease as.

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<v Speaker 3>We Yeah, you basically took a vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>We re ran a classic, Josh, That's what it's called

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<v Speaker 1>to re ran a class last So we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the the ripples, the ripples in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the world that happened when episode one of Bear Grease

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<v Speaker 1>hit the hit, the hit the planet. So, Brent, you

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<v Speaker 1>went to the live show.

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<v Speaker 5>Kansas City, How was it the green room? There a

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<v Speaker 5>lot better than this one. Wow, this got Christmas cookies.

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<v Speaker 5>When they said, uh, you will go back here. I

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<v Speaker 5>was talking with Chester and Chesters like Chester Floyd's Chester's

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<v Speaker 5>like come back here, man, at the green rooms. Back here,

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to chill back here before the show and everything.

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<v Speaker 5>And there's coffee, tea, cookies, an assortment of nuts. What's

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<v Speaker 5>on of them? What's that crazy tray name that's got board? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm scared to say that anyway, that thing's on there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>you come up here to the World Headquarters. If you're thirsty,

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<v Speaker 5>you better have brought some water with you or Misty

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<v Speaker 5>will make coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>How did this turn into it?

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<v Speaker 3>Coffee?

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<v Speaker 1>Backhand?

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<v Speaker 3>The coffee pot is what we need out here?

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<v Speaker 5>Is its?

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<v Speaker 3>Three years?

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<v Speaker 5>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me give you some advice.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the first time anybody's ever even suggested it.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you not seen the suggestion box?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I haven't. Okay, but that that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Other than all the negative things that are happening here.

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<v Speaker 1>How was the live show?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, the last show was great. It was wonderful. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>still in the green room. It was good man. It

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<v Speaker 5>was so much fun, you know, and we get to

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<v Speaker 5>talk to people occasionally you know through social media that

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<v Speaker 5>that listened to the show, but to be able to

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<v Speaker 5>look at him in the eyeballs and and talk to him,

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<v Speaker 5>it was just it was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>How many people you think were there?

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<v Speaker 5>I was over two thousand, Oh wow, huge auditorum, Yes, big,

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<v Speaker 5>it was. I want to think the seating capacity was

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<v Speaker 5>like twenty three hundred and when I wouldn't it wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred percent set out, but it was like individual chair,

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<v Speaker 5>individual seats here and scattered out. It was wow, maybe

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<v Speaker 5>ten seats left out of that thing. Wow, it was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was really it was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And they had you tell the story. Yeah, Brent told me.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like right before the show. Renella was like, hey, Brent,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you tell that story about that that crackhead

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<v Speaker 1>that was painting the red car in his garage. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what I mean, like if everything that Steve

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<v Speaker 1>has ever heard come out of Brent's mouth or heard

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<v Speaker 1>about Brent, or I don't even know if he heard

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<v Speaker 1>you tell that story.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I told I think I told up to him

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<v Speaker 5>on the first time I was on the on his podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and yeah, and Britt was like, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the story that you want to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you tell that one to us?

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<v Speaker 5>He digs it. That was, Uh, give me tell you.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's a condensed version of us. Marshalls had a warrant

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<v Speaker 5>for a guy and a big myth and fed of

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<v Speaker 5>Me distributor and they had tracked him down to a

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<v Speaker 5>rural farmhouse in Bradley County and they contacted us.

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<v Speaker 3>Our team goes down there.

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<v Speaker 5>We split up, hit the house and it's like, I

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<v Speaker 5>can't remember, it's like one or two o'clock in the morning,

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<v Speaker 5>and we split up to two teams. One hits the house,

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<v Speaker 5>one hits a garage that there was a light on,

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<v Speaker 5>and that was.

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<v Speaker 3>One that I went on.

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<v Speaker 5>And we went in and we opened the door expecting

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<v Speaker 5>the guy to be in there cooking meth, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So we're all masked up and got all the safety

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<v Speaker 5>equipment on and we hit the door and opened it up.

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<v Speaker 5>And that guys sitting there on a on a bucket

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<v Speaker 5>with a paint bro a phone paint bro painting his car's.

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<v Speaker 1>At two am in the morning.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's got paint all over him and he's been

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<v Speaker 5>painting this one fender like I mean, and I told

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<v Speaker 5>him there it was like had forty coach, like more

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<v Speaker 5>coats of paint on it than the Batmobile. And he's

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<v Speaker 5>just back and forth, just empty cans of paint all

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<v Speaker 5>around him. And he had been up for like nine

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<v Speaker 5>days straight. Oh my cuss, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Painting that fender. He's doing a heck of a job.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, but rational thing anyway, that's something you generally do

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<v Speaker 5>after being awake from her. That's the story that he

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to hear. And I told one about a canned

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<v Speaker 5>ham that everyone everybody really enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us that one.

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<v Speaker 5>My mother in law, after my third or fourth episode

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<v Speaker 5>came out, she sent me a text. My mother in

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<v Speaker 5>law is the absolute She is like Juju part two.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, she is just the sweetest thing ever. But

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<v Speaker 5>she has no clue about hunting, fishing, anything outdoors.

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<v Speaker 3>But she loves that. I love it.

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<v Speaker 5>And she she said this met text message and said, Brin,

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<v Speaker 5>I love to listen to your episode.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so good.

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<v Speaker 5>She's I can just see all the things and hear

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<v Speaker 5>about the stuff that my dad used to talk about

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<v Speaker 5>when when he was doing all the stuff that you're doing.

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<v Speaker 5>She said, I just got a question about one of

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<v Speaker 5>the commercials. She said, where can we get some of

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<v Speaker 5>those hams? And I thought, hams. We don't advertise hams.

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<v Speaker 5>And I sent her a text back. I said, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know what you're talking about, Mama. This is my

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<v Speaker 5>mother in law, but we all call her mama. And

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<v Speaker 5>she said, oh yeah, your boss, your boss, Steve never

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<v Speaker 5>goes hunting unless he's taking those canned hams with.

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<v Speaker 1>A trainer.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to get some of them, get on top

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<v Speaker 6>of them in glasses.

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<v Speaker 5>So I did a screenshot of a can am and

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<v Speaker 5>sent to us, said this is what he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Mama.

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<v Speaker 5>She's like, oh, well, I was just wanting to support

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<v Speaker 5>your coming. Those canned hams are great.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny. That's funny. Well I think that, uh, since

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<v Speaker 1>this is a podcast about mountain lions and uh, Kobe,

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<v Speaker 1>you you brought up an interesting point. I did would

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<v Speaker 1>tell me.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I was just excited to come to this

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<v Speaker 6>one because it's almost like the first render. This this

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<v Speaker 6>episode never had a render.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah, this this episode. So when

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<v Speaker 1>it was this is kind of a time when we're

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<v Speaker 1>like opening up the back pages of the Bears podcast

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<v Speaker 1>when we started Bear grease. We didn't have a render.

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<v Speaker 1>It just came out every two weeks. If you remember

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<v Speaker 1>the first like six or.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how many episodes was it.

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<v Speaker 6>I think episode seven was the first render.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, So so for like fourteen weeks, it was

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<v Speaker 1>just an episode every two weeks and then yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we had we had the first render, which

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of an experiment because I had like it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't know if these guys are entertaining

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<v Speaker 1>or not. I invited some of you here to come

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<v Speaker 1>to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Who was on the first render?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't even remember me.

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<v Speaker 1>Shoot, I don't I know. Malachi Nichols was on there,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. I think Dan Rupe was on there. Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel was on there for I think the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not, maybe he was later. But anyway, we the

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<v Speaker 1>renders become an important part. So Kolbe said, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of this podcast has been living rent free in his head.

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<v Speaker 3>It's true, and he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a lot he wants to say.

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<v Speaker 3>True.

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought this would be a great time for

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<v Speaker 1>Barr to tell his his story. So Josh Bear, because

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<v Speaker 1>bear story involves a cat, yes, a feline, a wild

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<v Speaker 1>a wild cat. So so what what did Bear tell

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<v Speaker 1>you at school the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I asked him. I said, you got one tag left? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna take it with a with a trad boat. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, I found a great spot, but the

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<v Speaker 2>wind keeps the way the wind comes down this creek.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I get winded, and he's like, I've got

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<v Speaker 2>this idea, and he lays the this idea out to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking, has anyone ever thought of doing this?

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, like I felt like I was talking

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<v Speaker 2>to a Native American.

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<v Speaker 5>Who was like, what's he doingange smoke signals? Can we

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<v Speaker 5>get more stereotypical here?

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<v Speaker 2>But I was like, I was like, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>definitely not something you've ever seen on any Hunting Channels

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<v Speaker 2>show or you know, something that people talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>So so what what did you do? Bear?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to story because he went through it

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<v Speaker 2>real quick and I was going through it in my head.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want him to relay the details.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, pretty much, I'm sitting out a spot where there's

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<v Speaker 1>a riverbed right behind me, and it's it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>riverbed that meets up to the main river. Main River's

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<v Speaker 1>flowing real fast sucks all the wind south, and including

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<v Speaker 1>in this little riverbed that's right behind me, all the

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<v Speaker 1>wind there gets sucked south. So even if it's north wind,

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<v Speaker 1>the wind's gonna go south right here. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>where three deer are bedded because I watched him do it.

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<v Speaker 5>I told me.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, Dad, I walked almost twenty miles yesterday, I

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<v Speaker 1>only found three deer. And I was like, it was

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of a weird statement. And he's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>literally know where these three deer sleep. He's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>bumped him out of the same spot how many times?

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<v Speaker 3>Three times?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's like when he said I know where

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<v Speaker 1>three deer are, He's like, no, no, no, I literally know

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<v Speaker 1>where three deers sleep. They still brought by that rock

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<v Speaker 1>every day. They go really hard to find. But so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much. I watched him bed down one time and

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<v Speaker 1>they winded me. Came in another time. Now are you

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<v Speaker 1>are you hunting out of a stand? Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 1>hanging a stand and I watched them go in there

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<v Speaker 1>and bed down, and then they winded me. And I

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<v Speaker 1>went in there two more times at like midday or

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<v Speaker 1>like early morning, and they'd win me. So they were

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<v Speaker 1>bedding in the same spot, which usually they don't, and

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<v Speaker 1>they every time they'd come out of their bed, they

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<v Speaker 1>want to go north, but they smell me because the

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<v Speaker 1>creeks carrying your sent down even if the prevailing wind

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<v Speaker 1>is yep, favorable, yep. And so pretty much my idea

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<v Speaker 1>was to get like a bundle of like clothes, boots,

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<v Speaker 1>make it, you know, stuff that smells like me, go

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<v Speaker 1>stick it where my stand is, and they come around

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<v Speaker 1>the backside and hunt in that riverbed. Because every time

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<v Speaker 1>they'd spook, they'd go to the same they'd run and

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<v Speaker 1>they cross the river in the same spot. And uh

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<v Speaker 1>so pretty much that's so, so how did you execute that? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's a there's a like a trail that goes

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<v Speaker 1>this is before school, Like this isn't like something he

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<v Speaker 1>was doing, Like he did this before he came to school, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So there's like a trail that kind of goes around

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<v Speaker 1>like the backside of where these does bed. And so

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much I woke up real early across the river,

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<v Speaker 1>go around the trail, and I just creep in this

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<v Speaker 1>river bed right to my stand and I just lay

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<v Speaker 1>all my clothes there. You're assuming the three does that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that you have named are not in there

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<v Speaker 1>right now. They're out well doing what they're doing well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's kind of the idea. I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>in there, But why wouldn't they They couldn't there, they

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<v Speaker 1>would have winded. They don't win me until they get

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<v Speaker 1>out in the river bed the first so they bed

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<v Speaker 1>a little ways into the woods and the wind isn't

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<v Speaker 1>hitting them right there, and so pretty much I came

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<v Speaker 1>in on this trail, set my wood put out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I put a did you put some of my stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>There's all my stuff. Dad used to Dad used to

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<v Speaker 1>get bad at me for like abusing his gear, like

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<v Speaker 1>just using it like it was my own. YouTube Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm wondering what bear left out in the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>He's probably like, yeah, I took your good first light.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh you know, your first light, puffy and your good boots.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I put my muck boots, pair of socks used. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just one of my big first light jackets corners orange

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<v Speaker 1>that was covered in deer blood. Okay, you know it

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<v Speaker 1>smelled like me and I crept around the backside. While

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<v Speaker 1>I was creeping around the backside, I spook probably fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>turkeys up above me. And they all spook towards the

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<v Speaker 1>way that I was going. So I get back around.

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<v Speaker 1>I get in the main river, creep up and still dark. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>still dark. And I get to a spot where, basically

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<v Speaker 1>like the envision, just like a river bed, and it

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<v Speaker 1>drops where the water usually flows and there's about a

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<v Speaker 1>three foot drop and then there's some weeds growing there.

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<v Speaker 1>And pretty much that's the only place I can hunt

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<v Speaker 1>where I can shoot where the deer is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be because they, you know, the river bed's like thirty

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<v Speaker 1>yards wide, I can only shoot like. It's pretty much wrny.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's bone dry and remind me of bone dry riverbed. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>carry on, and the you know, the main river's sixty

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<v Speaker 1>yards behind me, and pretty much I sneak in there

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm about like ninety yards from where these deer

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<v Speaker 1>would usually pop out. And I get there and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting on my knees. It's real cold, and I

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<v Speaker 1>sit there for probably thirty minutes and I look up

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a bobcat with a squirrel in its mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, I couldn't really tell what it was. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was a because I was in there a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days before and saw a coyote tried to

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<v Speaker 1>shoot it in that same riverbed.

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<v Speaker 5>Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>And so at first I kind of thought I was

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<v Speaker 1>a coyote saw how to squirrel in its mouth. But

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<v Speaker 1>it got closer at guy the more I realized it

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<v Speaker 1>was a bobcat, And so I knew I couldn't really

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<v Speaker 1>move because it was like thirty yards facing me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground and you've yet to say that you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're shooting an O sage self bow made by David Albright,

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<v Speaker 1>one of our David's really we consider him family. It's

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<v Speaker 1>my brother's father in law, David Albright. And a self

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<v Speaker 1>boat is the most primitive of archery gear. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's essentially a bow carved out of one piece of wood.

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<v Speaker 1>Most modern boat, most modern even traditional bows are laminates.

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<v Speaker 1>They're recurves long bows that are made from laminated wood

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<v Speaker 1>and different synthetics sometimes that make them make them more durable.

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<v Speaker 1>A self boat is the most primitive style. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a slow it shoots slow. They're they're a little harder

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<v Speaker 1>to aim because the shelf of the bow is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of out further. There's just a self bow is like

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<v Speaker 1>hyper primitive difficult. Yep, on the ground in the creek

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<v Speaker 1>with yourself bow. Yeah, and so I already had my

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<v Speaker 1>bow up. Here comes a bobcat with a squirrel in

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<v Speaker 1>his mouth, yep. And he just comes straight towards me.

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<v Speaker 2>Slightly to my just like trotting along.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, c is he walking slow or trotting? Trotting? What

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<v Speaker 1>was the squirrel's tail doing? No idea of squirrel's dead,

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<v Speaker 1>So it looked like that squirrel, Yeah it was. And

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<v Speaker 1>he comes and he gets about five yards from me,

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<v Speaker 1>and at that point he's between me and the weeds,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was able to move a little bit, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>so I moved my bow to where he's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>And he comes down and he's standing right on this

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<v Speaker 1>slope right you know, where the drop is, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>probably three yards from me. I mean he's probably from

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<v Speaker 1>me to that computer behind you, and there's some weeds

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<v Speaker 1>between me and him. And at this point I I'd

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<v Speaker 1>already drawn back. And he looked at me once he

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<v Speaker 1>got there, and I was just like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, he got a mouthful of squirrel.

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<v Speaker 1>He thought he'd beat the day man. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>knew that was I knew that was the only shot

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to get, and so I shoot, and

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<v Speaker 1>I either shot high or hit the weeds, and it

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<v Speaker 1>just skipped right over his back and he pitched the

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<v Speaker 1>squirrel and ran like ten yards behind me and just

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<v Speaker 1>stopped there, looking at me broadside. And I guess he

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't want to leave his squirrel, or he was

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<v Speaker 1>curious or something. And so I just stood there, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have a back quiver on and I just reached

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<v Speaker 1>back and pull out my other arrow and just draw

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<v Speaker 1>back and I shoot, and it kind of ducks and turns,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just hit it right in the back of

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<v Speaker 1>the head and it just drops right there. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I go, get the cat, get the squirrel. And no

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<v Speaker 1>more than seven or eight minutes later, I just hear

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<v Speaker 1>some cracking coming from out in front of me, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I and I'm not in my last arrow, and

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<v Speaker 1>and I see a I see a dough coming down

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<v Speaker 1>and it is a it's been scared by some dirty socks.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was moving. It's moving. If you were

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<v Speaker 1>writing this, you would say the dough moved at the

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<v Speaker 1>pace as if she'd been sent by a pair of Well,

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<v Speaker 1>all I can say is that I saw them go

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<v Speaker 1>north three times in the morning, and this time they

0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 1>were going south, So I mean, I don't know, they

0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:47.760
<v Speaker 1>weren't like really spooning, they were running. No, No, they

0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 1>were pretty calm. So I don't know. But I actually

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate that you're not giving full credit because I

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<v Speaker 1>think that, especially when it comes to scent, hunters completely

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:06.680
<v Speaker 1>make like real significant judgments of what an animal does,

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 1>like real definitive judgments like the animals smelled me and

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<v Speaker 1>did this, or they didn't smell me and they did that,

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<v Speaker 1>when it's really kind of are you sure that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way it happened. So I appreciate that because when Bear

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<v Speaker 1>told me, he was like, I'm not sure that my

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<v Speaker 1>scent bundle pushed him this way.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's just because he didn't want to get in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well yeah, so but they came, So here comes

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.199
<v Speaker 1>these DearS. Your going too, So you kept hunting. You

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<v Speaker 1>gathered up the bobcat and the squirrel just like had

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<v Speaker 1>him sitting right beside you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, whenever I was lewer my mow, my bow got

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:52.959
<v Speaker 1>stuck on the arrow that was into bobcats. And so

0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:54.680
<v Speaker 1>you're you're going to continue to hunt.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and pretty much the big dough walks out eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>yards and I have a short, wide broadhead on that's

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<v Speaker 1>real light. It's so when you're shooting the traditional bow

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 1>usually have a specialized heavy head, especially a self bow

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 1>that's not shooting as hard. We didn't really have much

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<v Speaker 1>time to get him ready for this, and so he

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<v Speaker 1>just had like standard looking broad Yeah, and the first

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<v Speaker 1>two broadheads, both the ones that I shot the bobcat

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<v Speaker 1>would have been perfect that it was just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>my backup broadhead, but I didn't think very much of it.

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.439
<v Speaker 1>And pretty much the doe walked out at eighteen yards,

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<v Speaker 1>I shot and just hit her right behind the shoulder

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:43.200
<v Speaker 1>and my arrow bounced off literally made a d get

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<v Speaker 1>any penetration, no, And I mean like it had like

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<v Speaker 1>hair on it, but it just I mean it was

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<v Speaker 1>just laying right there. And they all just ran back

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 1>into the world and ran across the river. And those

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<v Speaker 1>are the only three der I could find, So I

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much figured my humble was over. Wow, Bunt, what

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 1>do you think of that? Man's awesome? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh, Bear called me on man. He said it had

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<v Speaker 7>a pretty cool hunt. I thought i'd better tell you

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 7>and I thought, I, Oh, we care that little sucker.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just crazy what he did that morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I found bobcats. Bobcats were highly elusive to me

0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 1>as a bow hunter for years. I didn't kill until

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I was an adult. I missed five bobcats before ever killed.

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I think I've killed two now with a bow. They're

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<v Speaker 1>hard to kill and to kill one on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>at like point well to get a shot off, even

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<v Speaker 1>at like point blank range.

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<v Speaker 3>Two shots.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's pretty that's pretty cool, pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh No, I was gonna say, remind me of the

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<v Speaker 1>Dry Creek bed.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, first of all, when you sent me the picture,

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Alaska, No, no, where was a Yeah,

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.439
<v Speaker 1>I was in Alaska and uh And he said I

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<v Speaker 1>killed bobcat. I shot it had a squirrel in its mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just like, oh cool. And I see

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<v Speaker 1>the picture. And I looked at that picture for two

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 1>days while I was in Alaska before I finally zoomed

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<v Speaker 1>in and I was like, oh, there's a squirrel.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't see the squirrel either. Oh really, the squirrel

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:16.159
<v Speaker 5>looked just like a immediate it to me.

0:27:16.240 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. So he took the picture with

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 1>the squirrel laid there. But somebody, you know, I put

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that on my Instagram and you know, like ninety nine

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 1>percent of the people were just like, Wow, that's cool.

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 1>And somebody was like, if he shot the squirrel crossing

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>the creek, or if he shot that bobcat crossing the creek,

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>why aren't the bobcat's feet wet?

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<v Speaker 3>He was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Thought, like like we were trying to pull one over

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<v Speaker 1>on the world. And I almost responded back to him,

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:51.159
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't. And I was going to say, my brother,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever seen a bobcat cross the ozark extreme

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<v Speaker 1>They don't get their feet wet?

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, rock to rock.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, anyway, good hunt, good hunt, good hunt. For sure.

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<v Speaker 7>I asked Bear, kind of the city boy that I

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<v Speaker 7>am at heart, what are you going to do with

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 7>that squirrel? I mean, it's killed by a bobcat, its

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 7>teeth is penetrated to meat, and you know, I'm he said, well,

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 7>I guess I'll take it home, put it in a freezer,

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 7>no question.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you do with it?

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<v Speaker 6>Bear?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? I ended up I cut a backstrap out of

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 1>the bobcat and cut you know, the legs off the

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>squirrel and ate them for dinner. You ate the Bobcat

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>piece of it?

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:33.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was it good.

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>It was actually pretty good. I mean it wasn't anything special,

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>but like it smelled terrible when I skinned it, so

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I really thought it would be nasty, but it just

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>tasted like meat, Like cat meat is pretty good.

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Some of the best meat I've ever had was Mountain

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<v Speaker 2>Lion that you.

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<v Speaker 1>Gave Mountain Line. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure. The here's

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<v Speaker 1>something that the bear grease world can can do for

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<v Speaker 1>for me? For meat Eater, for Steve Vanella, welcome, miss Newcomb.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a seat, doctor. Mister Newcomb has just joined us.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's giver it a round.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's something that the bear grease world could do for me.

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<v Speaker 1>On January the ninth, the audio original The Long Hunters,

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<v Speaker 1>How are you, doctor Newcomb? Good to be here, great

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 1>bear just told this. Let me tell you. Juju came

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 1>in and gave a Christmas message to a.

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<v Speaker 3>Bear.

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<v Speaker 1>Just told us about his Bobcat squirrel deer hunt was

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<v Speaker 1>really great.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Brent told us about how he had a great time

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>in Kansas City, probably even better than coming here. He

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>had a better time. He had a better time there

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:53.479
<v Speaker 1>than with us as people. Wow, it hurts so and

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>now we're talking about Now we're talking about the Long

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<v Speaker 1>uh January ninth, Meat Eater, Meat Eater, American History. The

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Long Hunters seventeen sixty one to seventeen seventy five Audio

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<v Speaker 1>original Me and Steve Vanella. You can pre order it now.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the deal. We have pretty big plans to

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>make more of these, and if we sell, if we

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 1>sell a bunch of these, we're gonna be they're gonna

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 1>want us to do more. And so you can pre

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<v Speaker 1>order this and it's you listened to it like an audiobook.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be five to six hours. And I'm telling you,

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 1>there has never this data has never been gathered and

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 1>put in one place. It was. There was a lot

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>of questions the way Steve described it as the historical

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 1>authors that wrote about the time periods with the Long Hunters,

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and even modern historical authors are often not hunters, and

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>they don't focus on the things that hunters and really

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>people that are living close to the land are interested in.

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 1>And he had all kind of questions about a lot

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 1>of different stuff. And Randall Williams thieve and I we

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 1>we developed this book. Brandon Williams did a lot of

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the research, and it's I just can't imagine someone that

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>likes any kind of American history and deer hunting to

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>not for this not to be like essential reading. Well,

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I would say reading material. But it's an audio original

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>listening material. So go and you can pre order it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, where do you go to pre order It's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's easy to find. It's on the Penguin Random House Audible.

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>It's audible. Yeah. So anyway, do that be doing a

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>favor favorite to the Bear Grease world?

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<v Speaker 3>So do that?

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 2>Are there options to like boot leg it? So I

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 2>have to pay for it, I mean, get credit.

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 1>For it if you bootlegged it. I just let somebody know,

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, just like a penguin me, just so they

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>can like put a little tally mark on it. Yeah,

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>tally marks. That makes me think of something that I

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:08.400
<v Speaker 1>learned just this week that the Native Americans used a

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>bear femur to keep track of different things in the

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 1>archaeological record. They would take a big bear and make

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 1>tally marks on bear. Yeah, yeah, making notches for stuff,

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>tally marks. Okay, that was just a little aside. Episode

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>one of Bear Grease. I noted a few things about

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>it Brent Reeves was actually the first voice ever heard

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>on the Bear Grease podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not true. It was second to yours.

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Are you sure you were? You not the Cold Open?

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh but I said the Cold Open episode one first interview,

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Well it was the cold Open though, Yeah. And then

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>it was Brent Reeves, and then I did my little

0:32:55.680 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I did my little open burritos ready, and then it

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 1>was Dad talking about how he had just bought bought

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the property. It wasn't how many mountain lions have you seen?

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<v Speaker 3>Does it matter?

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 5>Oh? It matters, of course it matters.

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, if you've seen a mountain lion, it was in

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>a mountain lion episode that you'd seen a mountain lion.

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 8>Could It's kind of died out a little bit, but

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 8>there used to be a lot of animosity coming from

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<v Speaker 8>a whole land Bridge over there about not being interview

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 8>that everybody had been interviewed except for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 2>I think it's because I'm not a subject matter expert

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<v Speaker 2>on anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know how I got this job.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a dude. You were cheap, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>call anything stand out to you in the episode.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, one of the things that has lived in

0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 6>my brain pretty rent free has been Scott Brown's story

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 6>about being at Walmart sewing that license. Like I think

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 6>about that regularly, like like I'll see something on my

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 6>trail him and I'm like, man, I think that might

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 6>be Man, I don't know.

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 1>You're like, I don't want to be that guy.

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 3>I just wondered.

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 5>And I listened to it again on the way up here,

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<v Speaker 5>and I was thinking when I was thinking, well, maybe

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 5>Scott don't know what amount.

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 3>Maybe those other guys did.

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you were casting casting.

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, I was just saying there was five witnesses.

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<v Speaker 1>Again. Man, when I heard so, I hadn't listened to

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.359
<v Speaker 1>this episode in a long time, And when I heard

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Scott's story, it almost made my blood boil just a

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>little bit to think about. I mean, if I had

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.719
<v Speaker 1>been in that little covey of guys back there, you

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>know Scott, I mean, Scott kind of fed the monster

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 1>a little bit.

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Well, he's also working, he's in a business.

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, his job. His job isn't to debate because people,

0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:59.880
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, you you will offend somebody if you

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>correct them when it comes to something they think they've seen.

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 1>But I think I would have just been like, Oh,

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 1>that's not a mountain lion, that's a bobcat. We all

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 1>know it. See all later, Scott.

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<v Speaker 7>If you knew.

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Scotty my audible book.

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, check out the Long Owners and Britos already.

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<v Speaker 7>If you knew Scott Brown, I mean this guy, he's

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 7>a real deal. Outdoorsman deluxe. His dad outdoorsman deluxe. And

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 7>I think Andy's dad was. I mean, he goes back,

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 7>way back.

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and uh.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, he's a he's a killing dude. He knows the outdoors.

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 7>I trust him anywhere. He knows what a mountain lion

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 7>looks like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure, maybe just

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 7>by photo, but he you know, he's a he's a

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 7>he's a real deal.

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:52.279
<v Speaker 1>So this episode, though, I remember when we first did it.

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:55.879
<v Speaker 1>I told I told you in the in the little

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 1>preamble that I was commissioned to make three episodes. In

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>the first two the first two that I made, one

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:05.880
<v Speaker 1>was with James Lawrence and the other one was about dogs,

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>and then the third one was the mountain Lion episode.

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:14.280
<v Speaker 1>And uh, and we ended up but the mountainline episode

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>was the third one. And I remember thinking when we

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>had those three and we had to start that we

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>were it was like a gamble to put that one

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 1>first because we'd probably never make another one that was

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 1>anywhere close to that good. Like I thought the Barger's

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 1>podcast was gonna be like, man, they had one good episode, yeah,

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:41.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean for real. And I remember telling my boss

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 1>at the time, who was Ben O'Brien, and I said, man,

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I think we got a swing for the fence because

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:49.919
<v Speaker 1>we thought about putting it later, like starting a little

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 1>bit lower. And and to me, the James Lawrence episode

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:54.719
<v Speaker 1>ended up being as good as any we've ever done.

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Like I revamped it. I did those two. We all

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>listened to it. It was like a four out of ten.

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 1>And then I went back and rebuilt the whole James

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence episode and like put in it just and so

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 1>to me that one was like redeemed. But I remember

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 1>just thinking.

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 5>Just basing off the critical review of the of the

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 5>mountain Land.

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<v Speaker 1>One, well, just I just didn't think there was that

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 1>many and intriguing stories like that that would draw people in.

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 1>And and I think we've learned that that's wrong. I

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>mean there's you know, I mean just with all the topics,

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>like you think about all the topics we've covered in

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the last almost three years. I mean, from these historical

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 1>figures to some of these living guys to I hear

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:41.359
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people talk about the tax jurmmy road

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:44.280
<v Speaker 1>show and Brent and I drove around remember that, Brent.

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I still get missed that.

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it was so it's interesting to go back.

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 1>But I truly get more interaction around that than anything

0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:00.799
<v Speaker 1>of to this day. People sent I mean for real,

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not joking. Look at this. I'm pulling up my.

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 5>Telling know about the flood now because here's the ones

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:08.879
<v Speaker 5>that I get that have a black panther in them.

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:10.760
<v Speaker 3>Is like, well you show this to Kalay.

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. Since since this podcast started, somebody sent me

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>a black panther image. I'm serious. We took the time

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 1>on that. That came, that came just today.

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:28.399
<v Speaker 5>Well let me tell you we that very photograph right there,

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 5>Steve and Joannis and I talked about that on a

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 5>podcast we did in Kansas City.

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 3>That picture, right, yeah, it's.

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Been around a long time.

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:38.839
<v Speaker 1>Well and this guy says it's from Georgia, yep. And

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>he his line here would fall into category number one

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:46.840
<v Speaker 1>of my automated response sir, you you were looking at

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 1>an animal that's not from North America. I mean, that's

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 1>a real black panther, but that is not from North America.

0:38:53.000 --> 0:39:00.960
<v Speaker 1>A wild North American sins you. Well, uh wait a minute,

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 1>did I just totally interrupt you while you were going

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:06.240
<v Speaker 1>to talk about what stood out to you?

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 6>You know, I thought it went a really good direction.

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay.

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:13.400
<v Speaker 6>I will say the most surprising thing when listening to

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 6>it again was I was surprised that you knew a

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 6>quote from Dumb and Dumber. I was like, Clay's never

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:20.879
<v Speaker 6>watched that movie.

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know many pop culture pop culture.

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:25.719
<v Speaker 8>I'm not sure that we're going to call a movie

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 8>that's twenty something years old pop culture.

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 1>But that's what all the kids are watching, Misty.

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:32.560
<v Speaker 6>Well the old kid, yeah, the kids your age.

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:37.279
<v Speaker 8>You actually got the quote a little bit out of context.

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 8>It was like, well, I'm not sure that Clay has

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 8>watched Them and Dumber?

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Dad?

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you what so that that podcast w you is

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the believer black panther Believer? What what stood out to

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you when if you heard it again? I mean, like,

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, after after three years of being the believer. Yeah,

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 1>where do you stand? Well, I tell you, I hate

0:39:58.000 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 1>to say this.

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:01.320
<v Speaker 7>I mean, you talked to us some pretty credible people,

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 7>but they're they're full of hogwash.

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:04.800
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's garbage.

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:09.799
<v Speaker 7>I don't know where these guys went to school, the game,

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 7>and I love, uh, you know, the guys working there.

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 7>I mean, they know what they're doing, but they got

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 7>the black panther all monked up. So I keep the

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:21.840
<v Speaker 7>same stance, you know, I know, I don't believe it.

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I know it.

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 7>I mean it's for real, Okay, and Oli, what's the

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 7>name of her town?

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 3>Bucks?

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Snore down in Bucks? Yeah, I mean you could hear

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 1>them at night without a doubt. Yeah, and you can

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 1>tell the difference between the black one and the regular

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:42.359
<v Speaker 1>colored ones. Spylar sound y'all remember the early podcast. There's

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 1>no question so anyway, no why.

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 3>It was very good.

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed it, probably more this time than first. Yeah.

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:55.960
<v Speaker 7>I found it shocking that they would get only one

0:40:56.440 --> 0:41:01.760
<v Speaker 7>verification on one hundred, one hundred and fifty reported. Yeah, sightings,

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:03.400
<v Speaker 7>it's kind of interesting.

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah. Yeah, Well, Josh, what do you think, not

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:11.880
<v Speaker 1>necessarily about the podcast, but just about going back and

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:13.439
<v Speaker 1>listening to the first episode of Race.

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:15.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm a big fan of erens.

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd like to watch things and listen to things

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 2>over again because I feel like my attention span is

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 2>a little weak sometimes, and so going back, I pick

0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:28.800
<v Speaker 2>up on things that I missed before. I all credit

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 2>due to Myron Means. Brilliant guy. He's been on here.

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:35.879
<v Speaker 2>Fantastic guy. There's got to be more mountain lions out

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 2>there than we're seeing. I just have I just believe it.

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:50.399
<v Speaker 2>Well, I've known Brent to lie all the time. So

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 2>he says he's seen two. I believe he's seen at

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 2>least at least one.

0:41:55.920 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so yeah, I've seen two with witnesses, but times

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:04.399
<v Speaker 5>mm hmm. They had four witnesses. The first three other

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:05.720
<v Speaker 5>witnesses besides myself.

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 3>The first.

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they were vaccinated.

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:13.279
<v Speaker 5>The second one. The second one was a coon hunter.

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 5>The first time was broad daylight with three other guys

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 5>in the cab of the truck.

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm. And it was.

0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 2>It was where did you see Ashley County?

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:30.840
<v Speaker 5>Ashley County outside between Hamburg and Fountain Hill.

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:30.319
<v Speaker 3>That narrows it down.

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh bear, you ever seen the mountainin Bears lost his headset,

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:37.359
<v Speaker 1>never saw the mountain long.

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:39.879
<v Speaker 8>I think that that I would believe it if Bear

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:42.879
<v Speaker 8>had seen it. Yeah, because I think anyone that's out

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 8>in the woods as much as Barry is, Bear sees

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 8>the craziest stuff, like constantly seeing crazy stuff, constantly bringing

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:53.359
<v Speaker 8>home videos of like what are you saying, I'm just

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 8>I'm just I'm just saying. I'm just saying I would

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 8>only believe it if Bear saw it.

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 1>M hm, you would believe it if Bear saw Oh

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:03.000
<v Speaker 1>here we go. What's what's your buttle?

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 3>Bear?

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, I was talking with a little my buddies the

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:10.880
<v Speaker 1>other day, and you know, like like sometimes whenever I

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 1>hunt on like a TV trails, you know, if like

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 1>ATV is coming down and I don't want them to

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:17.279
<v Speaker 1>see my spot, Like if I'm like all my way

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:19.719
<v Speaker 1>into a spot, I hit the side of the road

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 1>and hide behind a tree, and they have no clue

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>that there was a dude within ten feet of them. Yeah,

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 1>And so I feel like I've probably I feel like

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people have probably walked right under one.

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Mm m. I mean we got a believer on our hands.

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:39.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what about the fact, how do you what

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 1>about the fact that there's not any here? How would

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:46.359
<v Speaker 1>you have me into your argument. There's just we've got

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>plenty of very credible yeah, witness incredible ish incredible credible ish.

0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:56.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, you would think you'd see like a

0:43:56.760 --> 0:44:05.839
<v Speaker 1>track or something though in a puddle, But man, I

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 1>find that, uh, this is this, This statistic can be

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:16.480
<v Speaker 1>verified and is one hundred percent accurate. Ninety eight percent

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:22.640
<v Speaker 1>of American hunting license holders, America's hunters cannot tell the

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 1>difference between a canine and a feline track.

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:27.799
<v Speaker 2>I was just thinking the same thing. I don't know

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:29.439
<v Speaker 2>if I saw it in the woods, if I would

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 2>be able to differentiate.

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:36.360
<v Speaker 1>I've gotten so many pictures of big old track tracks,

0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>canine track, you know, somebody else send it to me,

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 1>be like, is this is this a mountain line? And

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's a it's a canine track, and it's

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 1>uh and it's kind of hard to tell. And I

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I've actually had to study it quite a bit. The people,

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the two percent of people that do know I was,

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 1>y'all just took me at my word, at the solidity

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 1>and certainty of my statistics. I appreciate that. I just

0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of made that up is the is the hunters

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:04.120
<v Speaker 1>that are that are pursuing lions, like they can tell.

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:06.400
<v Speaker 1>They can tell driving down the road at thirty miles

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:07.920
<v Speaker 1>per hour a track in the snow that it's a

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 1>cat or if it's a bear, if it's a dog.

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:13.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, is there a distinguishing feature that.

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, the the a cat track is much more oval,

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:24.160
<v Speaker 1>and you can it's almost like you could place this

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:26.399
<v Speaker 1>isn't the best description, but you could like place a

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 1>stick in between the pad and the toes and it

0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 1>would be like more of a straight line. A canine

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:37.319
<v Speaker 1>has four toes that are going to be on this

0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 1>pad and they're gonna be the way there. There's like yeah,

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 1>there's kind of like too low and then too high

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 1>and then and then uh. A cat pad has the

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 1>three lobes on the on the on the pad of

0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:53.239
<v Speaker 1>the foot. Is that would you say? It's about right brown?

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:56.680
<v Speaker 1>And a canine always is going to have claws. A

0:45:56.760 --> 0:46:01.560
<v Speaker 1>cat cat is never basically ever gonna see a claw

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:04.880
<v Speaker 1>mark in the track. And the other thing that I

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 1>think would surprise most people is that a pretty durn

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:13.319
<v Speaker 1>good sized mountain lion track is small. I mean, and

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not an experienced mountainline hunter, but I have line

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 1>hunted a couple of times. And that cat hanging on

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the wall right there was a male weighed one hundred

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:23.799
<v Speaker 1>and twelve pounds, was killed in Panhandle of Idaho when

0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:28.640
<v Speaker 1>it was two degrees killed. A traditional boat shot it

0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:31.680
<v Speaker 1>out of tree. And when I saw that track in

0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the snow with my friend Leon Brown in Idaho, it

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:39.839
<v Speaker 1>was heck, it was pretty small, I thought, And I mean,

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 1>that's not a big cat. I mean a big one

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 1>weighs one hundred and forty pounds. I mean that's a monster.

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:48.400
<v Speaker 1>So but that that was an adult male cat, younger

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 1>side of adult. But and I mean that track wasn't

0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:55.320
<v Speaker 1>as big as a coke can I bet really yeah,

0:46:55.480 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean so I think a mountain lion track as

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 1>much smaller than what you would think. Okay, so that's

0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 1>just my that's just my input. I've never seen a

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 1>mountain lion. I can't wait till the day in Arkansas.

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 1>In Arkansas, yeah, excuse me, in Arkansas.

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 2>How many cats have you seen with.

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:22.799
<v Speaker 1>That's a good question. I've seen that one. And one

0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:25.239
<v Speaker 1>time in British Columbia, a cat jumped out in the

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:27.320
<v Speaker 1>road while we were driving down the road bear hunting

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and just loped down the road in front of us

0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 1>for about thirty yards and then Brent, Yeah, exact same

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 1>scenario as Brent. What are you pointing out, Brent?

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 3>The squirrel and waiting on the bob kit.

0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I think I've only seen those are the only

0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:45.719
<v Speaker 1>two I can remember. Yeah, and that's a lot of

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:47.359
<v Speaker 1>beating around out west too.

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 3>So one was an idahole, one was in one was British.

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:55.399
<v Speaker 1>Columbia, and the one's Idaho. That's right, yep, yep. I've

0:47:55.440 --> 0:48:02.280
<v Speaker 1>now seen some wolves up close. I just back from Alaska. Uh,

0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:05.800
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be some more on this coming out. We filmed.

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 1>We filmed our Alaskan trip, and so there's sometime in

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:13.600
<v Speaker 1>the next year on the media or YouTube channel, there's

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:17.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna be uh us trapping wolves in Alaska.

0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 3>And it was.

0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:21.760
<v Speaker 1>It was an incredible trip. I hadn't told that about it.

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:24.960
<v Speaker 1>It was that part of Alaska was in southeast Alaska.

0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 1>It was the most spectacular natural beauty of any place

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I've ever been. We were on the ocean, so we

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:40.600
<v Speaker 1>were at sea level, down low, but they're big snowcapped mountains.

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Basically in every direction, but there was a lot of

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 1>glacier activity where we were at I was reading today

0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 1>about about the idea of wilderness, and there's a term

0:48:56.000 --> 0:49:01.880
<v Speaker 1>that's called sublime, which has been watered down by modern

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:05.360
<v Speaker 1>culture to kind of take away its meaning. But the

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 1>word the old nature writers, the original nature writers that

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of forged and articulated the ideas around American wilderness,

0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:23.240
<v Speaker 1>used the word sublime to describe interactions with raw pieces

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 1>of nature, and sublime it almost has the feeling of

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:31.399
<v Speaker 1>like a supernatural experiment, experience like an I can think

0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:34.880
<v Speaker 1>like euphoric, euphoric, like a like an. The way they

0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 1>described it was like an overlap of the natural and

0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:42.279
<v Speaker 1>spiritual world coming together. When Josh, when I was in

0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Alaska there we went to a glacier that met the ocean,

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:51.799
<v Speaker 1>which is pretty cool. Some glaciers, don't. This glacier. I mean,

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:53.640
<v Speaker 1>you could rowed a boat right up to it, and

0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 1>we did. When I saw it, we were I believe

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:02.279
<v Speaker 1>we're two miles away. We kind of came around this

0:50:02.360 --> 0:50:05.480
<v Speaker 1>bend and we had been seeing like when you get

0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 1>like four miles from this glacier, you're just out in

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:11.279
<v Speaker 1>the ocean and you start seeing chunks of ice. You know,

0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:13.120
<v Speaker 1>if you didn't know any better, you'd just be like,

0:50:13.400 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 1>what is that. You drive over there and there'd be

0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 1>a chunk of ice about as big as an ice

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:20.200
<v Speaker 1>chest floating, just clear chunk of ice.

0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:21.759
<v Speaker 5>You'd be like, Wow, that's wild.

0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:24.759
<v Speaker 1>You go another quarter mile and there's a chunk of

0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:28.760
<v Speaker 1>ice as big as a big as a black bear floating.

0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, look at that. You go another three hundred

0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:33.960
<v Speaker 1>yards around the bend and there's the ice chest as

0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:36.440
<v Speaker 1>big as ice, piece of ice as big as a

0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 1>volkswagon floating. You go around the corner again and there's

0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:49.400
<v Speaker 1>two hundred blocks of ice that are big chunks like

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 1>a drafte Yeah. Yeah, And then and then you know,

0:50:56.680 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 1>basically there's like chunks of this glacier falling into the

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:02.719
<v Speaker 1>ocean then melting as they move out. The closer you

0:51:02.719 --> 0:51:05.279
<v Speaker 1>get to the glacier, the bigger the icebergs get. When

0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:07.720
<v Speaker 1>you got two miles away, you could see this glacier.

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:13.000
<v Speaker 1>It glowed blue, and dad, I have never had an

0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:16.839
<v Speaker 1>experience like this before. It was not concocted. I wasn't

0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:19.960
<v Speaker 1>expecting it, but I like the hair on the back

0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:23.200
<v Speaker 1>of my neck stood up when I saw that glacier,

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:26.080
<v Speaker 1>And I mean, for real, this is not a figure

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:29.520
<v Speaker 1>of speech, like you know people say my mouth dropped open. Yeah,

0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 1>like I kind of came to awareness after a few

0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:34.840
<v Speaker 1>minutes of looking at this glacier from two miles away,

0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:38.640
<v Speaker 1>and my mouth was open. I was just like holy,

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and it was a sublime experience. And as soon as

0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:46.920
<v Speaker 1>you round the corner and you can see the glacier,

0:51:46.960 --> 0:51:50.640
<v Speaker 1>the air temperature dropped, you know, probably seven or eight

0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 1>degrees started getting cold. And then you come up on

0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:55.880
<v Speaker 1>a glacier that's like as big as your house. And

0:51:55.920 --> 0:51:58.680
<v Speaker 1>we floated around it, and the deep the ice that

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:05.799
<v Speaker 1>was the densest was was blue. It glowed blue like

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:13.440
<v Speaker 1>a like a stained glass window. And when we when

0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:17.160
<v Speaker 1>we got up to it, I mean, it's hard to

0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:20.920
<v Speaker 1>describe it. Almost it felt to me like a portal

0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:25.120
<v Speaker 1>to another realm, because you it just world.

0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:26.080
<v Speaker 3>It was.

0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was just like and and when we

0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:32.240
<v Speaker 1>got when we got within sight of it, I asked

0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:35.120
<v Speaker 1>David Bennett's who was the guy I was trapping with,

0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:39.920
<v Speaker 1>This incredible guy sty king God service, he I asked him.

0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I said, well, we see this thing, calve, you know,

0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:45.279
<v Speaker 1>that's what they call when chunks of ice fall off

0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 1>of the glacier into the ocean. And he was like,

0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:50.279
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah. I mean I didn't know if it was

0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 1>something that happened like once every two weeks or if

0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:56.280
<v Speaker 1>it happened like all the time. And we're withinside the glacier,

0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I say, well it cave and he goes, oh yeah.

0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I turn around and we're now over a mile away

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:05.880
<v Speaker 1>from it, and I hear what sounds like thunder. I

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:09.239
<v Speaker 1>mean I actually looked up because it was puzzling to

0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:12.680
<v Speaker 1>me the sound I heard. I thought it was thunder.

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:15.840
<v Speaker 1>And all of a sudden, I see, like in slow motion,

0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:19.920
<v Speaker 1>this huge chunk of ice fall off, and it just

0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:21.719
<v Speaker 1>looks like slow motion and it was a chunk of

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:23.480
<v Speaker 1>ice about as big as my house.

0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:24.320
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:53:24.400 --> 0:53:28.919
<v Speaker 1>And I saw it hit the water and just now,

0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:31.439
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't the thunder. The thunder was it cracking off

0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:34.520
<v Speaker 1>the noise it made when it cracked and fell, and

0:53:34.560 --> 0:53:37.640
<v Speaker 1>then it hit the water and you see the ocean

0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:41.399
<v Speaker 1>just explode. And then like three minutes later, the boat goes,

0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:45.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the wave comes out, and I was like,

0:53:45.320 --> 0:53:48.080
<v Speaker 1>holy cow, we are gonna see this same calve and

0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 1>on the way to it, I saw three huge chunks

0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:53.160
<v Speaker 1>of ice fall off, and so I thought, man, we're

0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:55.319
<v Speaker 1>just gonna get like right up on this glacier and

0:53:55.360 --> 0:54:00.880
<v Speaker 1>just watch a show. And we got there, and by

0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:03.200
<v Speaker 1>the time you get up to it, there's so much ice.

0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:07.920
<v Speaker 1>You're just breaking ice. Basically, you're like parting. It's like

0:54:07.920 --> 0:54:10.600
<v Speaker 1>a slushie, you know, on the top of the ground,

0:54:11.000 --> 0:54:14.480
<v Speaker 1>with big chunks of ice, small chunks, chunks as big

0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:18.160
<v Speaker 1>as your house chunk is. And we stayed in front

0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:21.080
<v Speaker 1>of that glacier for probably forty minutes, just kind of

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:23.840
<v Speaker 1>floating around within like two three hundred yards of it,

0:54:24.400 --> 0:54:26.960
<v Speaker 1>like as close as you wanted to get, and I

0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:29.399
<v Speaker 1>never saw another big piece fall off.

0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:29.719
<v Speaker 3>Really.

0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was just like totally erratic.

0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:32.120
<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:35.239
<v Speaker 5>That blue was the most is the bluest thing I've

0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:41.320
<v Speaker 5>ever seen. Mister sent me the picture. It was absolutely incredible. Yeah,

0:54:41.320 --> 0:54:44.480
<v Speaker 5>did you and I forgot to ask you, did y'all

0:54:44.480 --> 0:54:46.239
<v Speaker 5>get into that ice and melt it and drink it?

0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:47.920
<v Speaker 6>No?

0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:50.919
<v Speaker 1>No, we talked about it. Dave Bennett's told me that

0:54:51.480 --> 0:54:55.080
<v Speaker 1>there was a time period maybe in the eighties when

0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:59.480
<v Speaker 1>they were selling glacier ice. Yeah, to rich folks. To

0:54:59.480 --> 0:55:02.359
<v Speaker 1>putting their because it it didn't melt as quick because

0:55:02.400 --> 0:55:07.880
<v Speaker 1>it was denser, and those icebergs had rocks in the ice.

0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:11.720
<v Speaker 1>It'd be like clear ice, like as big as your house.

0:55:12.280 --> 0:55:13.920
<v Speaker 1>You could you couldn't see all the way through it,

0:55:13.960 --> 0:55:18.719
<v Speaker 1>just because it was like, yeah, well there was the

0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:23.080
<v Speaker 1>like glacier move, it would be like rocks inside the ice.

0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:25.319
<v Speaker 5>I just wonder what it tasted like.

0:55:26.680 --> 0:55:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I did suck on one piece. Did it taste like water,

0:55:30.920 --> 0:55:34.239
<v Speaker 1>tastes like regular water, like regular water.

0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Did it taste like an extinct disease or distinct part?

0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:41.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:55:41.320 --> 0:55:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, well you gonna say, Missy nothing.

0:55:44.800 --> 0:55:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Did you hear about that? It just reminded me of

0:55:47.800 --> 0:55:50.960
<v Speaker 2>that chunk of that glacier that broke off in Greenland?

0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:51.640
<v Speaker 3>Do you hear about that.

0:55:53.160 --> 0:55:55.880
<v Speaker 2>There's a chunk of a glacier that broke off of

0:55:55.920 --> 0:56:00.560
<v Speaker 2>a fjord in Greenland that is fifty miles long and

0:56:00.640 --> 0:56:04.360
<v Speaker 2>twelve miles wide. It's adrift. Now they say that it

0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:08.960
<v Speaker 2>melting will literally cause the ocean level to rose just

0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:10.680
<v Speaker 2>from that one glaciers.

0:56:12.560 --> 0:56:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's incredible. The glaciers are the glaciers are melting,

0:56:17.920 --> 0:56:21.279
<v Speaker 1>I asked David that's a that's an interesting statement. And

0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:23.520
<v Speaker 1>if you say that and want to sound intelligent, you

0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:25.680
<v Speaker 1>have to put a little context around it. The glaciers

0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:29.040
<v Speaker 1>have been melting for ten thousand years. I mean, that's

0:56:29.080 --> 0:56:32.440
<v Speaker 1>the way, you know, so the glat You can't just

0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:35.000
<v Speaker 1>say the glaciers are melting and it be like some

0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:38.400
<v Speaker 1>statement of alarm, like the glaciers have been melting for

0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:41.920
<v Speaker 1>ten thousand years. That is fact. What they're you know,

0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:44.200
<v Speaker 1>what they're saying is that the glaciers are melting faster

0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:46.520
<v Speaker 1>than we've ever seen them in recorded history, you know,

0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:50.080
<v Speaker 1>which I don't know if that's true or not. I

0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:54.560
<v Speaker 1>assume it is. David Bennett's told me that he has

0:56:54.600 --> 0:56:59.160
<v Speaker 1>seen that glacier retreat about half a mile in his lifetime.

0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Wow, it feels like a lot.

0:57:02.200 --> 0:57:04.880
<v Speaker 1>It fells out, it does. But when you consider that,

0:57:05.880 --> 0:57:10.959
<v Speaker 1>like twenty miles away where he lived, well wherever, however

0:57:11.040 --> 0:57:13.640
<v Speaker 1>many miles away he lives, there was a time when

0:57:13.640 --> 0:57:16.800
<v Speaker 1>there was like a mile and a half of ice

0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:21.120
<v Speaker 1>pack over the place he lives that was connected to

0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:23.760
<v Speaker 1>this glacier. Do you see what I'm saying. I mean,

0:57:23.800 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like a trem like an unfathomable amount of ice

0:57:29.160 --> 0:57:32.040
<v Speaker 1>has melted in the last ten thousand years. But yeah,

0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I agree. So it's just interesting. A lot of people

0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:38.120
<v Speaker 1>have asked me, were they melting. I was like, yeah, so,

0:57:38.200 --> 0:57:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I with Mona's even took part in it. By I

0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:43.920
<v Speaker 1>did take a chunk of ice at a different glacier

0:57:43.920 --> 0:57:47.760
<v Speaker 1>bent we saw too, had a little chunk of ice

0:57:47.840 --> 0:57:51.040
<v Speaker 1>put in my mouth. What kind of load were you in? Well,

0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:54.760
<v Speaker 1>we stayed on a forty two foot fishing boat called

0:57:54.760 --> 0:57:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the Sandpiper, which was his crabbing boat. David is a

0:57:58.520 --> 0:58:02.320
<v Speaker 1>commercial crabber and has been has been involved in commercial

0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:05.800
<v Speaker 1>they call it commercial fishing, but commercial crabbing since he

0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:09.360
<v Speaker 1>was twelve years old. We stayed on that boat. The

0:58:09.520 --> 0:58:12.320
<v Speaker 1>inside that boat, there's a it's kind of like a camper.

0:58:12.800 --> 0:58:15.800
<v Speaker 1>It would be almost identical to a camper. There's a kitchen,

0:58:15.840 --> 0:58:19.240
<v Speaker 1>there's a bathroom, there's a kitchen table, there's bunk beds.

0:58:21.000 --> 0:58:26.120
<v Speaker 1>But we had a skiff, which was a heavy duty

0:58:26.680 --> 0:58:29.800
<v Speaker 1>aluminum boat made of quarter inch aluminum with a two

0:58:29.880 --> 0:58:33.120
<v Speaker 1>hundred inch two hundred inch two hundred two hundred horse

0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:35.280
<v Speaker 1>motor on the back of it that we used to

0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:39.720
<v Speaker 1>scoot around so we we Our base camp was the Sandpiper.

0:58:40.760 --> 0:58:42.920
<v Speaker 1>We stayed on there. It was incredible, six days on

0:58:42.960 --> 0:58:46.240
<v Speaker 1>the ocean up there. It really was incredible. It truly was.

0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:46.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I knew David from Bear Hunting magazine. Yeah, David is

0:58:49.880 --> 0:58:54.000
<v Speaker 1>a longtime bear hunting magazine outfitter and he sells spring

0:58:54.040 --> 0:58:56.320
<v Speaker 1>bear hunts and some of that real good hunting up there.

0:58:56.400 --> 0:58:57.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, solid guy.

0:58:57.560 --> 0:58:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a great guy.

0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 3>So how many wolves did you get?

0:59:02.640 --> 0:59:07.720
<v Speaker 1>We tried four wolves. It was it was very very unique.

0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:09.720
<v Speaker 8>If you look at Clay's Instagram, he's holding one of

0:59:09.720 --> 0:59:12.360
<v Speaker 8>them up and he says, this is a ninety pound wolf.

0:59:12.600 --> 0:59:14.120
<v Speaker 2>And it looks enormous.

0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:17.120
<v Speaker 8>It looks enormous. It looks like it's I mean, like

0:59:17.360 --> 0:59:20.640
<v Speaker 8>if that wolf is ninety pounds, he's about ninety five.

0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Photographs are always acceptive because scale means everything will spring.

0:59:28.800 --> 0:59:30.520
<v Speaker 1>This back to the Mountain lions. Like if you have

0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:35.120
<v Speaker 1>a tan cat, a tan house cat, Nana's tan cat

0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:39.240
<v Speaker 1>house cat, like five feet from your trail camera, he's

0:59:39.280 --> 0:59:42.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna look big. I got post to Nana's cat, I

0:59:42.320 --> 0:59:43.200
<v Speaker 1>got feet away.

0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:45.680
<v Speaker 3>I got the cure for all of that.

0:59:46.320 --> 0:59:49.960
<v Speaker 5>We talked about that Stephen and Joannis and Spencer and

0:59:50.000 --> 0:59:51.920
<v Speaker 5>everybody on the podcast. We talked about this the other

0:59:52.000 --> 0:59:54.320
<v Speaker 5>day after it was over with. I had this idea.

0:59:54.680 --> 0:59:56.960
<v Speaker 5>It's like you get in an argument with somebody and

0:59:57.000 --> 0:59:58.640
<v Speaker 5>you're leaving and drive it down the road, and like,

0:59:58.680 --> 1:00:00.560
<v Speaker 5>got I should have told him this.

1:00:00.920 --> 1:00:03.959
<v Speaker 3>This would have really got its goat. But I saw

1:00:04.000 --> 1:00:04.320
<v Speaker 3>a thing.

1:00:04.360 --> 1:00:06.840
<v Speaker 5>I was watching something on National's Geographic and there was

1:00:06.880 --> 1:00:10.800
<v Speaker 5>a guy in in this shark tank, in his shark cage,

1:00:11.360 --> 1:00:13.560
<v Speaker 5>and they're trying to figure out how big these sharks

1:00:13.560 --> 1:00:15.920
<v Speaker 5>are swimming out in front of him, because there's nothing

1:00:16.080 --> 1:00:20.560
<v Speaker 5>nothing there to judge, you know, the shark against So

1:00:20.600 --> 1:00:24.200
<v Speaker 5>he had a laser made underwater and it shoots out

1:00:25.160 --> 1:00:27.720
<v Speaker 5>a beam of light or you know, two dots that

1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:30.120
<v Speaker 5>are one foot apart or a meter I think is

1:00:30.160 --> 1:00:32.680
<v Speaker 5>what they used. But a meter apart.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how far that is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean we fought a water keeping doing that.

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<v Speaker 5>So anyway, you get you get he shining out there

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<v Speaker 5>and taking photographs of these sharks with that those two

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<v Speaker 5>points on there. Then they could take the photograph and say, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>that shark is however many long? He's fifteen feet long.

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<v Speaker 5>So game camera. We need those two little lights on there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>it shoots a beam out at a predetermin and distance apart,

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<v Speaker 5>and if that regardless of where that animally is.

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<v Speaker 3>When it hits him, you'll be able to measure that.

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<v Speaker 5>I see.

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<v Speaker 3>You see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that if the lasers were exactly aligned, the

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<v Speaker 1>distance wouldn't like get wider, get.

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<v Speaker 2>Narrow, or with perfectly parallel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they'd have to be perfectly parallel. That's what it was,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what the stress is. That's a good idea, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to be on I'm glad he brought that up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to be on the our new trail came.

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<v Speaker 3>The Bear Grease trail camera in first light spect.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I was just saying, the scale

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<v Speaker 1>means a lot with those wolves. I agreed with you.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the reason I put that they weighed ninety

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<v Speaker 1>pounds because somebody would be like, somebody would have thought

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<v Speaker 1>that's one hundred and pounds. That's one hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>pounds wolf. If you'd have seen them in person, you

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<v Speaker 1>would have been like, yeah, that's probably about a ninety

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<v Speaker 1>pound wolf. But when you're holding it up, I can

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<v Speaker 1>assure you I would not have hold it up. That

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<v Speaker 1>wolf is like closer to the camera than you, and

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<v Speaker 1>they just look bigger than they were.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish you would have held it more like like

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<v Speaker 2>a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea, yeah, no, it was interesting putting the wolf up.

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It did not escape me that a wolf is a

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<v Speaker 1>controversial animal to kill, like, not at all.

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<v Speaker 3>And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Inside the film that we make when we actually show

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<v Speaker 1>people how we were trapping these wolves, we're gonna we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna handle it really with a lot of humility and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>really tell the story. But man, here's the deal. People

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<v Speaker 1>that live in wolf country that care anything about wildlife,

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<v Speaker 1>vast majority of them are like all four. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily hate wolves. They're all four managing wolves. People that

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<v Speaker 1>have little functional connection to wolves, like me, love the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of wolves. Are typically want to want to ceremonialize them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, want to and want to protected. Man, the

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<v Speaker 1>people that love wildlife usually usually want them managed, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think they should be managed just like any other

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<v Speaker 1>game animals. I want wolves on the landscape in Alaska,

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<v Speaker 1>and of all people, David Bennett says too. David David

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<v Speaker 1>Wolf traps in the areas that he moose and deer hunts,

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<v Speaker 1>and like he, like I said on my post, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not I mean, like we know, we didn't try to

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<v Speaker 1>paint the picture like that we're changing the world by

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<v Speaker 1>trapping a few wolves. But David says that he can,

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<v Speaker 1>on a micro scale, positively impact deer and moose numbers

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<v Speaker 1>in the places he hunts by trapping. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>with coons, and it's And I had somebody on on

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<v Speaker 1>the gram be like proved me that taking those wolves

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<v Speaker 1>out is helping deer numbers. And I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>embarrass the guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a nice man. I like to show people some dignity,

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<v Speaker 1>so I didn't even respond.

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<v Speaker 3>Wolves.

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<v Speaker 1>The statistic if you looked it up, it will say

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<v Speaker 1>that a wolf eats seven pounds of meat per day.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that granted that's an average that they probably don't

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<v Speaker 1>eat that every day, but when you average it out,

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<v Speaker 1>like they're eating a lot of meat, that's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of meat. Let's do the mathroll, Let's do the mathrooll quick.

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<v Speaker 1>How many deer we literally.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do that.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's do that wolf. What was the estimated age on

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<v Speaker 5>that wolf?

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<v Speaker 1>It was an adult male so it's like if it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a dog, I would say it was at

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<v Speaker 1>least a three or four year old. It may have

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<v Speaker 1>been an eight year old. Let's just say three So

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<v Speaker 1>three years, well, we would we would be we would

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<v Speaker 1>be doing math on the years that he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to live. Let's say he lived another three years.

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<v Speaker 5>This you're already you're already to my answer, how many

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<v Speaker 5>is he going to eat next year?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly? Well, that's what I'm saying. So three years times

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<v Speaker 1>three sixty five that's one thousand, ninety five days. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say times five pounds of meat per day, that's

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<v Speaker 1>fifty four hundred pounds of meat.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, do it for one year, do it for one year.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so three sixty five times, and I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say five pounds of meat per day times five that's

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundred pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>So that that wolf is going to eat several a

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<v Speaker 2>big game speak big game animals himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean so like if you take a wolf

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<v Speaker 1>off the landscape, I mean, I don't see you know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times solutions like that. It's the narrative

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<v Speaker 1>and the talking points for predator hunters that want or

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of person that's wanting to justify something they

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<v Speaker 1>want to do, Like sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>The Caribou, somebody plays Sarah McLaughlin like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't want to simp. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>simplify the narrative because it's easy to be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, save deer, kill a wolf, like it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>really probably not quite that simple, but it is like

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<v Speaker 1>wolves don't have any other option. They gotta eat meat

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<v Speaker 1>and and they have the right to and we love

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<v Speaker 1>wolves on the landscape. But as David says, you just

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<v Speaker 1>got to manage him. David David, David said, I like corn,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to eat it and harvest it too.

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<v Speaker 1>It was funny when he said it. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>would punch a little harder. I started telling it that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this isn't gonna be that funny, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I just suit your to that.

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<v Speaker 8>I needed more time to process bambo.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the So, yeah, I wanted to talk just a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about Alaska. So people will be able to

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<v Speaker 1>see that, and uh, that'll be after they buy The

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<v Speaker 1>Long Hunter's Audio Original.

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<v Speaker 6>Book, So that'll be great January.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they can order it now, Kolby, and they could

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<v Speaker 3>Do a little I owe you Those are the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a little slip of paper that says I've ordered

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<v Speaker 1>you American meters, American History, Long Hunters seventeen sixty one,

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<v Speaker 2>Works for magazine eight track.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you can magazine, Bear Hunting Magazine. Christmas gift. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>get the package, deliver three year subscription and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody else have any Just like, uh, what would be

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<v Speaker 1>a really just a significant analysis of the replay of

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<v Speaker 1>this beargerase classic.

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<v Speaker 5>Doctor Black, doctor back. Didn't believe me and he's still wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 8>Next, I think you should have played back to back

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<v Speaker 8>with this replay when James, Lawrence and Gerald just kind

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<v Speaker 8>of spontaneously started talking about and they were, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 8>were at bear Camp and then y'all did that podcast

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<v Speaker 8>and they just I mean, they had clearly not heard

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<v Speaker 8>the podcast and they just started talking.

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<v Speaker 1>About I think James and Gerald listen to any podcasts feeling.

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<v Speaker 8>Well anyway, it was pretty awesome because like they just

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<v Speaker 8>walked right into the story telling these stories about I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>and they had tales and the colors and I mean

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<v Speaker 8>and they and it was really funny. And you're just

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<v Speaker 8>sitting there having to be quiet, and I thought that

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<v Speaker 8>was and you, like Scott Brown, I wish you would

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<v Speaker 8>have played.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that was good. I forgot about that comments.

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<v Speaker 1>Just give him your headset.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to hear my uh my mom swears up

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<v Speaker 6>and down she saw a black panther in New Boston

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<v Speaker 6>by the prison, really and then uh She's always talked

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<v Speaker 6>about it, and then it came up again after this podcast,

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<v Speaker 6>and I just couldn't break her heart.

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<v Speaker 1>You just let it go.

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<v Speaker 3>I just let it go.

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<v Speaker 1>What what is it? Let it go. The other day

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<v Speaker 1>with a guy that I was talking to and he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't informed of the podcast, he hadn't listened anything, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, Clay, I want to show you this picture.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at this, and he thought it was a black panther.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and he's like straight up, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have time. I didn't have time. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, I'll be darn, you think that's a black panther.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just kind of I just didn't have time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. It was like listen, here,

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<v Speaker 1>come here. He was an older, older gentleman to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>have a seat. I got someone I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you about, and they're not real Tell your mom

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<v Speaker 1>as far.

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<v Speaker 6>As as far as the Beargers Hall of Fame, as

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<v Speaker 6>far as episodes, I think that's the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>Really you're saying you liked it the best.

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<v Speaker 6>I just think that all the ripples that worked its way,

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<v Speaker 6>it was really like identifying like the trajectory of it.

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<v Speaker 1>There was some things I would have done different in

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<v Speaker 1>the sequence of storytelling. That's what I heard. When I

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<v Speaker 1>heard it. I was delightfully. I'm really nervous about going

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<v Speaker 1>back and listening to old stuff, even like from three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago for real, because I hear stuff and I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I did it different. The podcast is good. I

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<v Speaker 1>should have told Scott's stuff way up closer to the front.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I don't have as long of interview like

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to Myron for like thirty minutes, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like NonStop, almost like we pretty much don't do that anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like you don't talk as much, like inside

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<v Speaker 6>of the interviews, you give the soundbites to the people.

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<v Speaker 3>I quit more.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, you know you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I try to I ask people a question but then

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<v Speaker 1>I trim out my question, and it's all about an

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<v Speaker 1>efficient listen. Yeah, because I mean I think you cover

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<v Speaker 1>two hours worth of content and one hour's worth of

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<v Speaker 1>media when you listen to a good Bear Grease and

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<v Speaker 1>it's and that's one way I've made it more efficient.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that all context with the Yeah, so a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>Good point, Josh.

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<v Speaker 2>The older I get, the more I believe what I

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<v Speaker 2>think I believe, so I'm all for confirmation bias. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm confirmation bias.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I want to believe what I want to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not?

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<v Speaker 1>So my dad I grew up with the dad who

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<v Speaker 1>believed in black panthers. You grew up with the d

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't. Well, I'll be honest. I think before the

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<v Speaker 1>first time I actually listened to the podcast, I thought that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you could see a black panther. Oh you did. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's because I spent too much time around

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<v Speaker 1>too much time around the believer.

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<v Speaker 6>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, any other comment's misty, Gary, just I enjoyed it

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<v Speaker 1>more the second time. I think there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>mountain lions around, we just don't see them. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was I was surprised when he said they're not as

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<v Speaker 1>secrety as we h.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was a very good point.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I couldn't believe that because I hunted a remote

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<v Speaker 7>area for a long time and I used to envision

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<v Speaker 7>mountain lions up in trees. I don't know if i'd

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<v Speaker 7>read a book or what, but I thought, you know, back.

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<v Speaker 1>As far back as I am, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Could be lunch for one of these guys. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, I thought about it so much. It's almost

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<v Speaker 7>like I saw a mountain lion, but I didn't, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, it's like I was aware that there were

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<v Speaker 7>mountain lions in that area, or at least I thought, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I thought they were anyway.

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<v Speaker 8>But yeah, I just I agree with Josh. I'm just

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<v Speaker 8>thinking about what he said. I don't feel like I

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<v Speaker 8>have a strong enough opinion about mountain lion specifically, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm for confirmation bias.

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<v Speaker 1>Life with confirmation bias is just a little more fun

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<v Speaker 1>than reality.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I think I think that, No, that's not what

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<v Speaker 8>I'm saying. I just think that some of what it's

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<v Speaker 8>kind of taken any what. But Bear John said too.

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<v Speaker 8>You know there's times where he's if you were to say,

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<v Speaker 8>was bear in the woods by you or you know,

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<v Speaker 8>was he hiding in the woods. No, bear was talking

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<v Speaker 8>about like there are people that have walked right by

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<v Speaker 8>on them.

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<v Speaker 1>He's right there.

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<v Speaker 8>And if you ask those people, they would say absolutely not,

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<v Speaker 8>and they would be wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>They would be wrong to the point.

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<v Speaker 8>And I'm just saying, thinking, if you could say it

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<v Speaker 8>more efficiently than me, I'm gonna I can a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, that's that's it.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm not saying I've never said there's a breeding

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<v Speaker 5>population of mountain lions in Arkansas. I happen to be

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<v Speaker 5>at a place, two different places as a crow flies

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<v Speaker 5>eighty miles apart, where I saw with my own eyeballs

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<v Speaker 5>two mountain lions.

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<v Speaker 3>Neither one were black. That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 8>But eventually there will be a breeding population, I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>even just with h And you've got to be open

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<v Speaker 8>to that. All these skeptics have to be open to

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, someone is gonna say one day I saw this,

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<v Speaker 8>and you're gonna have to believe them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be true.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, And if you can be just as blind by

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<v Speaker 8>your skepticism as you can by your.

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<v Speaker 1>Belief, Boom, there it is. That was good. You can

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<v Speaker 1>be just as blind by your skepticism as those who

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<v Speaker 1>are blinded by their own confirmation bias living outside of reality. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all for it, man. I want I want there

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<v Speaker 1>to be a breeding population of mountain lions in Arkansas,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think there will be as long as deer

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<v Speaker 1>populations remain stable. I mean, I think you know there

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<v Speaker 1>was you talked to so many guys that were like man,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid, there were no deer here.

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<v Speaker 1>There were no turkeys here. In today there's a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of deer, a ton of turkeys. There were no elk.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's elk. I mean in our lifetime there could be.

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<v Speaker 1>There could be mountain lions all over the east. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you guys so much. Merry Christmas. I wish you

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<v Speaker 1>could have some of these cookies that Juju bought at

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<v Speaker 1>Sam's Good that you put on a plate.

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<v Speaker 2>And put them on a plate and covered in the place.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the first That was the first thing she

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<v Speaker 1>told us. It was like too much information, Juju. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>God bless well.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, have a merry Christmas, everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>M