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All right, let's go to some weekend 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:15.000 information and um, I've we're gonna break this whole thing down. 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:18.760 We've got three big stories were following today. Number one, 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:22.920 the President has has signed a new executive order banning 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:27.080 travel from six terror tied countries. Jay Secular believes that 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:30.120 it is an eighth Supreme Court decision and that is 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.160 far more rock solid legally and better legal footing than 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.039 was the first one. That is issue one. At some 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:40.039 point today, probably after the show, we are going to 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.800 get an outline of what the Republicans are planning, just 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:48.200 an outline that is, as they move towards the reconciliation 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.960 part of repeal and replacing Obamacare. There are critics out 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:55.440 there that are skeptical and that are claiming that the 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:58.920 mandate will exist, albeit another form. The mandate would be 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.720 to insurance companies now to the government, that the Cadillac 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:05.400 tacks would stay, uh, that there might be a new entitlement. 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.600 But you know what, all of this also will be 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.600 subject to a lot of amendments, and it's not going 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.919 to be the same bill whatever outline they have today 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:16.080 by the time it actually gets out and and voted on. 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.720 So we'll follow that. But our top story today is 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:24.560 very simple. Did people in the Obama administration were they 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:31.880 seeking surveillance against Donald Trump? An opposition political opponent in 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:36.760 the middle of an election year. Now fascinating side note 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:39.160 to all of us. Later in the program, we will 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.040 have William Binny on the program. Is one of the 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.520 architects of the n s A surveillance program, and he's 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:49.440 actually saying that every American, every minute of every day, 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:53.520 is being surveiled. Everything from every tax message, every phone call, 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.800 and every email you send is being data. Mind Now, 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:02.120 it all starts with this weekend, and it starts with 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:07.480 President Trump, and it starts with his very simple basic 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:11.840 text that he couldn't believe that, in fact, that he 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:16.600 believes that that the former president was in fact survailing 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:21.480 Trump towers and why are tapping Trump towers? Now? What 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:25.519 does this mean? Well, that would mean why what information 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:29.959 do they have? Nobody seems except the New York Times, 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:35.360 the Daily Mail, McClatchy and all these other quote mainstream 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.520 news sources, all of them confirmed. Now, I've spent a 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:40.600 lot of time on this program in the last number 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:44.600 of weeks talking about the shadow government, the deep state. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.560 I've been talking about how we have within our government 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:52.760 because we haven't had the time to actually get everybody 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.520 that needs to be confirmed confirmed. So what don't we 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:59.520 have a bunch of Obama holdovers, a bunch of career 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:03.800 bureau kratz. We have all of these intelligent leaks, and 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.200 nobody can seem to get to the bottom of it. 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.600 This is the swamp. How many times have I told 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:13.920 you that there is five separate sources of people that 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:18.800 are now literally trying to destroy the president. You've got 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:23.479 the all left propaganda, destroy Trump media that that establishment 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:27.320 obviously wants him out. The Democratic establishment from day one, 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:31.440 they couldn't accept that Donald Trump won the presidency. Democrats 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.120 have been talking about impeachment even before he got into office. 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:38.760 That's too Then you've got weak Republicans. They make their 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:42.359 living off of being called senator and congressmen, and some 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.000 of them that's why they didn't do anything and keep 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:49.600 their promises on healthcare or the president's unconstitutional executive order. 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.800 Then you've got the snowflakes out there. I made a 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.839 crazy bunch of people, some paid, some not paid. But 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.240 it doesn't matter. They're trying to create the impression that 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.159 all hell is breaking loose in the country, and it's 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:04.640 all designed to create a false image of Donald Trump. 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.719 You have the media questioning his sanity, you have the 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.400 media attacking him on if he breathes it, if it 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:12.360 takes a breath in the morning when he wakes up. 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.880 They they're never gonna be happy. Their total aim as 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.200 his destruction. They're not his friends. They never thought this 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.320 day would happen. I was watching the Circus last night 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.560 on Showtime. No. It was that's that political show with 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:28.040 whatever Heilaman and Helper and and whatever his name is. 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:30.159 And I actually think it's a good show. It's just 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.640 three liberals for the most part. McKinnon and But the 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:37.919 bottom line is they covered election day and they were shocked. 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.479 They couldn't believe it. And the country for days and 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:45.520 weeks and months is gonna be stunned at this outcome 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:49.240 that nobody saw coming, etcetera. Well, they don't want the outcome. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.920 They wanted a minimum to stop Trump from his agenda. 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:57.080 They wanted a maximum they wanted as much collateral damage 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.680 and him out of office as quickly as possible. And 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:03.839 they'll stop at nothing and all weekend long, all you here. 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:06.000 And then the other one is, now we've got an 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:10.359 intelligence community that is leaking like a sieve. You know. 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.720 Think back to General Flynn for a second here. General 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:19.360 Flynn never ever should have lost his position. Why because 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:23.279 the phone call that our intelligence community and I have 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:26.680 no problem with the with them tapping the Russian ambassador. 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:31.680 That's their job, intelligence, counter intelligence. We need to know 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.480 with our friends and enemies so called friends are up 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.599 to and so they spy on us and we spy 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.400 on them. That's part of the way that the world works. 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.720 It's an evil world, and you gotta protect the country. 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:44.680 And one of the ways to protect the country is 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.919 you gather intelligence. The way you gather intelligence people on 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.520 the ground. You have people that are listening, eavesdropping on 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:56.520 phone calls, stealing text messages, dealing uh emails, whatever they do. Alright, 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.320 So on the phone call, as a matter of law, 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.919 when they're tapping the Russian ambassador and they identify an 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:07.839 American is on the call, they have to minimize what 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.960 they hear. The Americans saying because they don't have a 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:15.640 warrant to listen in an eavesdrop on any American, and 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.480 that is obviously a violation. I think you can argue 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.800 the fourth, first, fifth, and sixth amendments if you really 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.480 want to get into the technicalities here. They do not 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:27.920 They did not have a right to surveil and identify 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:32.440 General Flynn. And as a matter of of basic course, 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:36.600 the way those calls historically have been handled, this is 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:40.000 why General Flynn was so unprecedented, is that once they 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:43.440 identify an Americans on the call, they're supposed to do 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:48.200 what's minimization. Minimization means they stop listening. That means they're 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:50.640 only allowed to listen a little bit. And when they 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.160 finally write up a report on the call, they don't 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:57.680 identify who the American was. As a usual practice, standard practice, 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.680 they would write, oh, we surveiled the Ussian ambassador and 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.200 this is what he said, and then an American got 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:05.760 on the call and we heard a little of this 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.040 and a little of that, but you don't identify the American. 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.000 They took down every word that Clint said, and then 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:14.680 they use that information illegally. It's a felony and they 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:18.200 leaked the whole damn thing. So you've got this deep state, 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:26.520 Obama holdovers, bureaucratic, lifelong bureaucrats that are sabotaging. This is 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.200 the shadow government I've been talking about. This is what 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:35.240 deep state means. They are sabotaging the Trump presidency. Now, 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.440 let's go to what we've been listening to and watching 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:41.719 all weekend long. You've got this this hysteria that is 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:45.280 built up and repeated and repeatd Where's the evidence? Where 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.480 is the evidence? After Donald Trump? Why you demand the evidence? 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.720 After sending out a single tweet Saturday morning accusing the 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:57.120 Obama administration of wire tapping his office as at Trump Tower. Now, 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.880 the President came out with a strong statement of denial 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.559 or was it strong because the way they interpreted, Well, 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.240 the President strongly denied it. Of course, I believe President 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.000 Obama when he says that he had nothing to do 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.719 with this. Well, if you read the statement and pay 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.400 attention to it, it says a lot less than you think, 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.199 because what it says is a cardinal rule of the 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:20.560 Obama administration. Was no White House official ever interfered with 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.760 an independent investigation led by the Department of Justice, that's 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.840 not a denial that it happened, meaning the FISA court requests, 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:30.240 and it says that as a matter of practice, neither 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:35.000 the President nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:38.400 on any US citizen. Any suggestion others that they didn't 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.640 order it, that doesn't mean it didn't happen, and that 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:45.440 doesn't mean Obama didn't know that it happened, because it's happening. 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.240 If it's true, if the New York Times is right, 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.360 and we'll go back there in a second, If the 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:55.560 New York Times and all these other publications are right, 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.960 then in fact, they did wire tap Donald Trump and 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.640 Trump Tower because I read it in a newspaper. The 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:04.720 New York Times has to be accurate. Right, they're demanding 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.760 the President Trump after sending out that he's got to 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:11.520 give incontrovertible proof of this. It wasn't that grand because 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.439 for the last four months, the entire fake news media, 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.800 along with the Democratic Party, has been completely obsessed with 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.480 this idea. It's been going on for months now that 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.120 the Trump campaign, that General Flynn, Jeff Sessions, and anybody 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.840 else they can think of, colluded with the Russians to 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.000 steal the election from Hillary Clinton based on not a 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:34.120 shred of evidence, and yet now they want proof, none whatsoever. 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.280 It's a figment of their imagination up to this point, 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:41.520 a wish list of allegations backed up by absolutely nothing. 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.319 Even the claim that the Russians hacked the d n 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.960 c's email and gave it a wiki leaks has no 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:50.520 evidence whatsoever to support it, none, at least none that 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:53.280 has ever been released to the public, and everyone seems 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.479 to have forgotten the way Back in December, House investigators 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.360 asked for a classified briefing on any evidence that would 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:01.599 support the ocean the Russians were behind the d n 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:05.040 C hack. The Obama administration refused to share that evidence, 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:09.040 even in a behind closed door classified setting, which means 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.400 that the only evidence we have to back up the 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:15.920 Russian hacking allegation is the word of Obama's CIA director, 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:20.319 Obama's National Intelligence director, and his FBI director, which, by 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.679 the way, it will get to as well, because all 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.960 three are hacks, in my opinion, and I'm sorry, the 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:30.320 statements of political hacks. One totally confused f BEHID director 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.840 who doesn't know what he's doing at this point doesn't 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:36.760 constitute evidence of anything. You know, evidence is something that 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:40.480 you can actually see, read tangible that leaves you with 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:45.319 the inescapable conclusion that something happened, not because they say so. 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.240 That's not evidence of anything. And add to that the 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.920 fact that Obama's CIA guy, John Brennan is a political 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:55.080 hacked and he's been carping against Trump and the administration 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.360 from the Minity Left office, or James Clapper, he's already 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:00.480 been caught lying to Congress about the n s A 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:05.760 surveillance program. And James Comey is so bewildered by all 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:07.880 of this. He doesn't know what he's doing. He's he 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.160 can't figure out if he's coming or going. He has 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.920 no business in this job at this point. He went 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.640 into the tank for Hillary during the campaign when obvious 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.720 felonies were committed, then he jumped back again days before 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.480 the election. You know, none of these people have even 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:26.199 the remotest shred of credibility here, But the question remains. 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.199 Listen to what the liberal New York Times reported eight 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:35.120 days before the election Exhibit A The New York Times McClatchy. Uh, 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:36.959 then we can go. But by the way, Mark Levin 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.439 did a great job on Fox and Friends this weekend 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:41.800 and he's gonna be on Hannity tonight. He did a 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.600 great job time all of this together. But the New 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:49.280 York Times, in classified sessions in August and September, intelligence 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:54.359 officials also brief congressional leaders on the possibility of financial 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.839 ties between Russians and people connected to Mr. Trump. They 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:01.839 focused particular attention on what fiber experts said appeared to 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:06.000 be a mysterious computer back channel between the Trump organization 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:09.040 and the Alpha Bank, which is one of Russia's biggest 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.400 banks and whose owners have a long standing ties to 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:16.679 Vladimir Putin. FBI officials spent weeks examining computer data showing 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:20.360 an odd stream of activity to a Trump organization server 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.800 and Alpha Bank. Computer logs obtained by the New York 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.560 Times show that the two servers at the Alpha Bank 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:30.640 spent more than twenty d look up messages, the first 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.599 step for one systems computers to talk to another to 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:37.319 a Trump connected server, beginning in the spring. But the 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:43.000 FBI ultimately concluded that there could be an innocuous explanation 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.559 like a marketing email or spam for the computer context. 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:50.680 So the FBI admitted and The New York Times reported 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.880 that they had tapped into the computers at Trump Tower. 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:58.080 They're admitting it, and that the FBI decided it was 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.160 a good idea to leak whatever they found of the 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:04.480 New York Times. Now who that is illegal. What they did, 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.960 just like what Hillary did with a secret server was illegal, 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.560 just like all these other leaks are illegal. And it 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:14.720 appears that in fact there has been surveillance. All evidence 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:20.440 indicates that in fact Obama administration and officials surrounding the president. 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:22.560 What did the president know? When did he know it? 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.440 What did Valerie Jarrett know? What did Ben Rhodes No? 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.520 What did David Axrod No? What did Dan Peffer know? 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:33.240 And when did they know it? Because if they're denying 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.320 that the president ordered it, that's different from them knowing 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:41.800 it happened, extremely different. This is beyond troubling here because 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.480 I'm telling you, if they can tap into the president 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:48.680 or the opposition candidate in the middle of a presidential election, 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:55.440 nobody's information is safe. Nobody, nobody, nobody, quick break right back, 0:14:55.480 --> 0:15:06.600 will continue all find it here. Now, I think some 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.880 people are missing something here. The president has put in 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:16.160 place an organization that contains the kind of database that 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.360 no one has ever seen before. In life. That's going 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.560 to be very very powerful. And whoever under the Organizing 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.400 for America that he's now shifting to become a FIB, 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:29.359 that's right, that's right. And that database will have information 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:33.680 about everything on every individual in ways that it's never 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.680 been done before. And whoever runs for president on the 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.640 Democratic ticket have to deal with that. They're going to 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.880 have to go down with that database and the concerns 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:46.320 of those people because they can't get around it. And 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.760 he's been very smart. I mean, it's very powerful what 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:52.480 he's leaving in place, very powerful, what he's leaving in 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:56.480 in place. The database that Obama's put together will have 0:15:56.600 --> 0:16:01.560 information about everything on every individual on ways that it's 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:04.520 never been done before. And whoever runs for president on 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:09.040 the Democratic ticket has to deal with that. Oh, that 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.600 sounds like a shadow government. Sounds like Kennedy's not the 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:15.440 great conspiracy theorist that some people may think I am. Well, 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:18.320 let's go to the New York Times And when was 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:23.280 this March s Turk or of this year? No, yeah, 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.960 March fifth this year. The FBI Director James Comey asked 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.880 the Justice Department this weekend to publicly reject the president's 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:36.120 assertion that Barack Obama ordered the tapping of Mr Trump's phones. Okay, 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:39.360 we're back to the same argument that Obama made. Nobody's 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.440 saying that Obama really ordered it, but it happened on 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.240 his watch, and that there's no way that such a 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:48.360 fiser request could have taken place without him knowing. Do 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.400 you understand the word parsing that's going on here when 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.800 Obama says no White House fish will ever interfered with 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:57.280 an independent investigation led by the Department of Justice. As 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:00.280 part of that practice, neither President Obama nor or any 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:04.800 White House official ever ordered surveillance on any US citizen 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:09.199 and comes demanding but again he doesn't get involved in 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:13.679 investigations or comment on ongoing investigations. That the president, the 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:18.200 President Trump, you know, take back his assertion that Obama 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.760 ordered it? Well, it was it ordered and if so, 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:26.000 by who and why? Mr Comey has argued that highly 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.679 charged claim is false and must be corrected, and the 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.359 Department has not released any such statement. But Coma, you 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:36.159 made the request on Saturday after Trump put the allegation 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.399 on Twitter, has been working to get the Justice Department 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:41.040 and knocked down that claim because it falsely insinuates the 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.000 FBI broke the law. Did they break the law? Did 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.199 they go to the FISA court? And what would that 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:49.879 have meant? You know, I mean with the president. What 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:54.160 he's saying here is something how long is President Obama? 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.040 How low has President Obama gone to tap my phones 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:02.359 during the very sacred election process. Well that's kind of sick, 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:07.080 isn't it. Isn't that dangerous for a democratic republic if 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.639 we're gonna have the FISA laws applied. I'll get to 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:14.240 the distinction of the difference. But it's a very dangerous thing. 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.679 And the New York Times on multiple occasions had referred 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:21.000 to wire tapping that had taken place. Now the New 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:24.040 York Times, ever get it wrong. You know, two people 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.159 close to the president say they believe the President was 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:30.720 referring to you know, this this whole issue that had 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:34.960 been reported extensively by all of these different outlets that 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:38.439 in fact show, including the New York Times, that the 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.880 president had been wire tapped. These are public comments by 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:47.240 so called credible news sources, the mainstream media, and um, 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.760 you know, if in fact they saw the FISA two 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:54.320 fier court requests, one in in June and one in October. 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.600 That would be pretty unprecedented and they would have to 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.800 be real good laws. And by the way, with all 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:06.280 due respect to the FISA courts, they rarely disapprove of 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.359 the request, and they did do it back in June. 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:11.719 Then they had to narrow the scope of what they 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:15.359 were requesting in October. Anyways, but I'd like to know. 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.160 Chris Coons of of Delaware said he believed that there 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:22.560 were transcripts that would help document the contacts. When we're 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:25.959 talking about the House and Senate Intelligence committees moving their 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:29.480 own investigation into Russians efforts, Well, where did the transcripts 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:34.399 come from? Senator Kuhn's Okay, why would the transcripts available? 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.720 How do you get transcripts if you're not surveiling somebody 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:42.360 spying on somebody. Those transcripts that provide very helpful critical 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:45.120 insights into whether or not Russian intelligence or senior ages. 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:47.720 There hasn't been a bit of evidence ever presented on 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:52.320 the Russia case. I believe they exist, he said, Okay. 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:56.120 Spokesman for Mr. Khons the Senator said that he did 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:59.240 not imply he's aware of transcripts indicating collusion between the 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:02.320 Trump campaign into the Russians, so he had to backtrack it. 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.040 So he said on Friday that he believed there were 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:10.840 transcripts that would help documents that would help document the contacts. Okay, 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:14.000 where the transcripts come from? Transcripts between who and who? 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:16.560 You know? Why is it that the New York Times 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:18.919 said that, in fact, it was wire tapping their words, 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:22.520 not mine. You know, there's no confirmed evidence that the 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:25.600 FBI obtained a court warrant. Then we've got the word 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:28.359 of you know, let's play James Clapper over the weekend. 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:32.119 But keep this in mind. A lot of people, you know, 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:36.520 wanted Clapper out and brought up on perjury charges because 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:40.359 he admitted for gave a false statement of Congress in 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:43.840 March when he responded, no, sir, not wittingly to a 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:47.399 question about whether National Security Agency was collecting any type 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:51.000 of data at all on millions of Americans. He replied, 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:54.200 and I quote here, the story that we have millions 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:59.399 or hundreds of millions of dossiers on people is completely false. 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:02.440 Reason I'm asking the question is having served on the 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:06.480 committee now for a dozen years, I don't really know 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:10.919 what a dossier is in this context. So what I 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:13.080 wanted to see is if you could give me a 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:15.760 yes or no answer to the question, does the n 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:19.439 s A collect any type of data at all a 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:24.280 millions or hundreds of millions of Americans? No, sir, it 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:28.359 does not, not wittingly. There are cases where they could 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:35.200 inadvertently collect, but not not wittingly. Well. According to Bill Benny, 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:37.000 who's going to join us later in a program today, 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:38.480 he was one of the architects of the n s 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:42.280 A surveillance program. Remember he was a whistleblower. He left 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:47.320 the agency after a thirty two years because why because 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:50.480 he feels Executive Order twelve three three three allows the 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:54.359 government to surveil any American at all times, and in 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:57.720 fact they do it, and that would mean all your texts, 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.760 all your emails, all your phone calls are being data 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:03.400 mind all of it, and then they can go back 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:05.080 and use it at any time. Now. In fact, if 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:08.240 that's happening, that means basically we live in a police 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:12.240 state and under the wrong leadership. That means that that 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:15.119 information can be used to compromise an awful lot of 0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:18.200 people and shut down criticism, wouldn't it They come out 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:21.840 on compromising information on a critic of any administration. They 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:25.520 just say, well, we have this phone conversation that we recorded, 0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:29.439 and maybe your your wife or a daughter or whatever 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:32.240 doesn't want to hear it. That would be called blackmail. 0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:34.760 That would be the stuff you'd expect in the former 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:37.800 Soviet Union. He'll join us later. By that same executive 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:42.159 order was was reopen opened in the two weeks remaining 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:46.080 in Obama's presidency, to allow that data to be shared 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:49.720 with other agencies. Sixteen other agencies. You see what's going 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:52.680 on here. Why didn't Obama apply that standard to himself? 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:55.720 That allows then if, for example, in the case of 0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:59.040 General Flynn, Okay, there was post to minimize the conversation, 0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:01.840 they didn't minimize it. And not only that, they transcribed 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.879 it and then they leaked it. They weren't supposed to be. 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:08.960 There's there was no subpoena, there was no FISA court 0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:13.680 UH surveillance subpoena, give warrant given out to anybody, any place, 0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:16.920 any time. Then they destroyed this man's career with information 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:20.199 they never should have heard. That's the danger when you 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:24.040 have unlimited warranting like this. You know this, this is 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:26.719 getting way out of control. I don't think you realize 0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:30.960 how bad. This is Andy McCarthy has a great column 0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:35.080 out today and one that he's also updated that I 0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:37.320 want to get into here in a second. But Andy 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:39.760 McCarthy say, remember the great debate over the wall, the 0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:44.560