WEBVTT - "I'm Drunk, I'm Drunk at Vogue!"... (S4 E17 "A 'Vogue' Idea") 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:04.840 Hi. I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:09.960 you a Charlotte Guess what you guys? Welcome back to 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:14.200 Are you a Charlotte guest? Who's here today? Easton? Hi? 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:15.720 Thanks for having me back, Christens. 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:18.440 I'm so excited, so excited that you're back because Easton, 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:22.680 You guys, this is a whole thing. Easton has been stolen, 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:26.680 okay away from me by the Jonas brothers. Can I 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:29.440 just share that with you? And please tell us? Where 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:31.360 have you been and what have you been doing? Oh? 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:34.240 Man, Well, we launched a podcast here today Heart Radio 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.239 called the Hey Jonas Podcast and it's been a lot 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.240 of fun and I have had the pleasure of going 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:43.319 on tour with them crazy for the last month. So 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:52.760 I've been to Buenos Aires, Argentina, Mexico City, Las Vegas, Wow, Sacramento. 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:57.040 I was in London last week. It's been a wild ride, 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:58.760 but it's been so much fun and the guys are 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:01.240 so funny either. The show so much fun to listen to. 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.240 Oh that's good, and I think fans of this show 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.280 will really like Hey Jonas as well. 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:10.240 I can also I want to tell you guys that 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:14.399 I'm We're in our studio, our little studio, and across 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:19.160 from me is a huge drawing that says hey Jonas 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:23.080 and has a stick figure and a bunny, an evil 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:26.800 looking bunny, and some signatures on it. So I'm basically 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:31.160 looking at their set, which is very interesting, very different 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:35.760 than mine. I'm like, wow, it's very it's very trippy. 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:39.520 And then also next door we have where Kate Hudson 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:42.959 and Oliver Hudson, who we love so much, record their 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.560 podcast and now they're going to be doing it for Netflix. 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:47.280 So there's a lot going on around here. 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:49.600 It's so funny, like do you remember when sometimes you 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:50.960 watch those old movies and they go to like a 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:52.640 movie set and they'd be like a guy in a 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:55.080 night costume and then someone dress as an alien and 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.360 like an old West. Ye, sometimes it feels like that 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:57.880 around here. 0:01:58.200 --> 0:01:59.880 Do you feel like that? I do feel like that. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:01.880 It's a little bit of the studio a lot, yes, 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:05.320 because we've got all everything smushed together. So do you 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.400 want to hear my Jonas story while we're while we're here? 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.600 I don't know if I've ever told you this, mad 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:14.960 have told Hannah. So when Wilson, my son was tiny, 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.600 I got a job or. I'd been developing this script 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:22.520 for Netflix about elephants, and we were able to film 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:26.320 this movie about elephants in South Africa and Zambia. So 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.839 it was weird timing because Wilson was six months old, 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.440 which is, you know, a little bit hard, but in 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.240 some ways they're kind of easy to travel with, right 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.320 because they're like so little. You know, they're not loud 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.000 and you know, running around toddlers. They're like a tiny baby. 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.639 So he's six months old and we're going off to 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:47.359 South Africa to film and it's pretty exciting. I've got 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.239 a baby nurse with me that I'm taking because it's 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.200 going to be long hours. I'm in every scene of 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:55.160 this movie. It's a movie based on my own experience 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:59.400 with the Sheldrick Foundation, the sorry the Sheldrick Trust in Kenya, 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.720 but we weren't using their name. It was just inspired 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.520 by them and my experience with them. So we go 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.799 to get on We have a fantastic plane. We're on 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.960 the Emirates first Class, which is like very very dreamy, 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:14.640 and Rob Low's with me. He's in the movie as well, 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.320 and I'm there with my six month old and my 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:21.200 night nurse and I have you. There's some of the 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:26.320 first class cabin things have a little crib of I 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:27.639 don't even know if that's the right word, like a 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:29.720 little cot that comes out of the wall. 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:30.280 Wow. 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:34.040 Yeah, it's pretty cool, very perfect bed for babies. 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:34.440 Yes. 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:36.960 So I've got my baby nurse and we're right next 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.240 to each other with the you know, little crib thing 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.680 happening whatever you call it, a little like it's like 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:46.160 a hammock basically for a baby. So this girl comes on. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.560 She's wearing a sweatshirt, she's really stressing out. She's standing 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.400 in the first class Kevin just hemming and haueing like stressing. 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.080 And she comes up to me and she says, well, 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.840 you know whatd it be? Okay? Could I move your seat? 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.880 Could you move a seat? And I was like, oh, 0:03:59.920 --> 0:04:01.840 I can't really move the seat because I need this 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:05.560 baby sling here to put my baby in because I'm 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:07.720 really hoping he sleeps during this flight, because I was 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.760 so worried about him on this first class flight that 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.480 costs like so much money to be up there. So 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:16.320 I had gone and gotten these Starbucks cards for everybody 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:18.479 in the first class cabin because I thought they might 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.000 really really be mad at me because I didn't know 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.360 what Wilson was going to do, right, I had no idea. 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:25.400 I had never flown with a six month old to 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:28.200 South Africa, you know what I'm saying. So I didn't know. 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.080 So I was really nervous and I didn't know why 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.560 this girl needed me to change seats. But I explained 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.440 why I couldn't. She said, okay, but she seemed quite nervous, 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:37.960 quite nervous, quite nervous. So at the very last minute, 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.160 everyone else in first class was born, and there were 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:44.240 two empty seats at the very last minute. One of 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.720 the Jonas brothers, who's married to Prianna, and that would 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:52.760 be Prianca, Thank you Prianka, who's she married to. 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:53.880 Nick john Nick? 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.119 Okay, See, this is very hard for me. I can't 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:59.880 tell them apart. So Nick Jonas comes on with pre 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.880 and he sits behind me and she sits over to 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.080 the side, and I was like, okay, I feel like 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:06.560 this is a thing that I should know about, but 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:08.240 I don't really know, and I'm really just focused on 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:12.800 a six month Luckily, Wilson does great, basically doesn't cry. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.280 I know, thank God in Heaven, right, because I was 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:16.560 just like, what am I going to do I'm going 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:20.520 to dive embarrassment. He didn't make a peep. It was awesome. Right. 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.719 So we land and I go to hand out my 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.040 Starbucks cards. I'd already talked to Brianca. She's adorable. She 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.919 wanted to see the baby. She grabbed his cheeks and 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:32.679 he smiled at her, and she was happy. She was adorable. 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:34.599 I knew she was an actress, but I didn't. I 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:37.480 wasn't sure which Jonah's brother it was, Britna was somebody, 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.800 but whatever. I was just handing out my cards to everyone, right, 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.880 And he was so shy and sweet, and he was like, 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:44.440 you don't need to give me that, and I was like, no, no, 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:47.320 I already got them for everyone enjoy, you know. And 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.640 he was just like a sweet young man, you know. 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:56.119 And I thought, that's so interesting that they are themselves, yes, 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:57.200 but yet adorable. 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.280 Yeah, they've been in this spotlight for such a long time, 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:06.040 and yet there's still these like these pure adorable souls. 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.000 Well I agree, That's how I felt. I mean, not 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.200 that I had that mouch contact with them, but I 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.720 was like, well, you would just never think that that 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:14.599 guy is going to go get up on a stage 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.279 and have squealing girls and whatever. 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:19.640 You know, I know exactly what you mean. 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.000 I'm glad if they're nice because you're running all around 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:22.680 the world with them. 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.920 Oh yeah, they've been. They're so nice, They're so fun 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.440 to be with, good having a blast. I have missed 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:32.120 being here, though, I love being you know, usually I'm 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.159 sitting across the room here, but I have a front 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:34.920 row seat to this. 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.720 I know. We love to have you. We really really 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:41.040 missed you when you're not here. So it's very special 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.839 that not only are you back, you're actually going to 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.800 break down a Vogue idea with me, which is a 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:51.719 very very good and interesting and important episode. 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.960 Don't yes, Oh absolutely yeah. When I saw that this 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:56.560 was the episode I had been signed, I was like, 0:06:58.040 --> 0:06:59.120 I love this episode. 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:02.360 It's really good, and I really watched it, not remembering 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.320 hardly any of it. I kind of remembered the kind 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.200 of the broad strokes of Carrie's storyline that she goes 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:11.280 to the Vogue closet and finds the Manila blan Mary Jans, 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:14.880 partly because when we went to Manolo Blanik last year 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.480 with Kathy ang from and just like that, they gave 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:21.840 me a re addition of the Mary Jans that I 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:25.040 believe it was like the thirtieth anniversary or something. Wow, 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.360 I know, I know. So I have a really beautiful 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.640 pair that I feel like I shouldn't even wear, like 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.560 they're so pristine, and it was really pretty. They put 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:36.400 a little pearl on the closure as like a special 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:39.440 thing for the anniversary. I love that, I know, I know. 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.040 So I have another new thing that I think of 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.560 when I watched the episode, But I only really remembered 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.360 just the broadest strokes. I did not remember my storyline 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:48.880 at all. 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:49.280 Wow. 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:50.960 So I didn't know what was going to happen. I 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.600 was like, what is all, Lord Charlotte, What's going to happen? 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:56.760 So it was really enjoyable. But also the thing that's 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.600 amazing it was written by Alan Heinberg, who we love 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:01.480 so much and we're really hoping that he will come 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:06.920 on the podcast. Yes, he's a very different element added 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.160 to the show. He's the one who his first episode 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:13.000 was the one about the comic book writer, and Alan 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.920 has a whole comic book thing and he's gone on 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:19.280 to show run big shows that are based on comic books, 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.400 and you know, he's he's a big mucketing muck. Now 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:23.640 he doesn't have time, but at some point we hope 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.640 he comes on, because he really was very different. And 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:27.960 I think, I don't know how long he was with us. 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.200 I want to say, like maybe two seasons or one 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.920 and a half seasons, but like he really brought a different, 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.520 a different take to think. 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:40.960 I'm I'm curious, like there's such an an intimate like 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.080 understanding of Vogue in this episode. Yeah, and I wonder 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.680 if you know he's a he's a comic book guy. 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:48.800 Yeah, I don't know how. I don't know how he 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:53.760 got the intimate understanding. I mean, we need to do 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.760 some research about this, because I do think that this 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:59.640 is the beginning, as far as I know of our 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.840 relationtionship with Vogue, and we do have an ongoing relationship 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.160 with Vogue. Remember we have the Vogue shoot in the movie, 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:10.520 and Plum Sykes and Andrew Andre Leon Tally came for 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:14.160 that film filming day. It was incredible. We knew them anyway, 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.240 but it was adorable to have them. And I know 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:22.280 that Anna read the film script and gave her thoughts. 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:25.240 I think to Michael Patrick, I want to say, yeah, 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:29.560 and it's possible that that happened with this because somehow 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:34.360 we were able to have Kendice Bergen play Anna. Yeah, 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:38.160 which is weird. It's obviously before the devil War's product, 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:41.000 so like it's kind of the beginning of this like 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:46.600 cooperation between Vogue and fictional tellings of Vogue. 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.600 Yes, you know, it's yeah, it's so interesting because now 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.720 it's it's become such a such a thing. Yeah, I 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.160 was thinking about that actually watching Handis, I was like, 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.400 you know, knowing it predates devil Ware's product. Yeah, yeah, 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:01.360 you know, I'm like, how much of this is Anna? 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.559 I mean, I wonder too, but I really liked what 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.040 Kendice did. I mean, of course I like what Meryl 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:11.320 does as well. And Marylyn has said very specifically that 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.960 it's not Anna, that she has other inspirations that are men, 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:21.760 because she's looking at power and how how to portray power, 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:26.840 which I think is really interesting. Obviously Anna is very powerful. 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.600 I've been in many a room with Anna. I'm always 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:34.560 pretty scared, Okay, pretty scared, but she is so warm 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.720 and lovely to Sir Jessica, and they have such a 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:40.880 long and lovely relationship, so I just wait, I'm just there. 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.000 Sarah's usually there and I'm just waiting and I'm just 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:45.920 not sure what to do, and then Anna will turn 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:47.720 and just be like lovely to me, and I'm like, 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.520 this is just based on Sir Jessica, and I'm so happy. 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.040 I'm so happy. But you know, sometimes when they say 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:57.400 that she's just arbitrarily mean or whatever, I've never seen that, 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.959 never seen that, never seen that. I have seen her 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:05.840 be in an elevator and not talk to anyone, you know, 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:09.960 behind the sheets exactly, but I mean in an elevator 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.480 of friends, I shall say, in an elevator at an 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.920 event right where the other people are talking because we're 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.040 all going at the same event, right. I have seen 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.000 her just be like, no, I'm not I'm not going 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.080 to make small talk or whatever. I've seen that. But 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.760 that's not that crazy, you know, that is what it is. 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.400 And she's allowed. She's allowed cool. Yeah, yeah, But I 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:28.840 know some other people that she's really nice to and 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.400 warm too, and smiles and you know, does all the 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.640 things that you don't think she does. But I loved 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.800 what Candace did in our show because at one point 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.680 she just laughs at Carrie, which is really funny, you know, 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.880 and Candace just has such a way of like turning 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:46.959 her phrasing. It's it's very interesting. And obviously Michael and 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:50.480 Candace go way back to Murphy Brown, which was Michael's 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:54.120 first big job, wow, which she wanted Emmy for writing 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.920 for Murphy Brown starring Candace, which maybe you youngsters listening 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:01.760 have not heard or seen. It's a great sitcom from 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.640 the I want to say late eighties, nineties. 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:11.680 Yeah, I definitely in the nineties. In Seinfeld, Kramer gets 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:14.400 a part on Murphy Brown way in the show, like 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.960 in the plot of the show. Yes, there's in Seinfeld. 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:19.080 In Seinfeld, how could I have missed that? And the 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.120 Kramer moves to La for like three episodes and she's 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.559 part of Murphy Brown, and Candace has a cameo. 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:27.559 And it's fun so funny and good. Now let's let's 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:31.880 finish our connection. So Candace plays Anna Wintour in our show, 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:35.280 which is weird, but actually she's end because later but 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:39.000 do we call her Enid in here? But then remember 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:43.160 when Carrie gets drunk and she's walking out and a 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.440 blonde girl bumps inder and she says, tell me that 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:46.440 wasn't Anna Wintour. 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:47.680 Oh that's right. 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:51.000 Yeah, it was confusing, Right, Yeah, so maybe I don't 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.880 know if we actually do we actually say that Candace 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:57.079 is ened in this one? Where is that later might 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:57.760 be lady. 0:12:58.160 --> 0:12:59.720 In this episode? They do call her emails? 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:00.559 Okay? 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.680 And then I was wondering, like, this is the first 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:07.679 time Carrie is written for Vogue, Like would Anna like 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:09.959 be with you know, like. 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:14.800 That's a good question, but probably probably no, that makes sense. 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.280 But the way she's built up and the way she's 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:22.520 so negative and then and the important she has to carry, 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.640 you know what I'm saying, it's confusing. I need to 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.480 rewatch it and think about that. But the thing that 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:31.160 I wanted to make sure I connect to our readers listeners, 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:38.160 whatever they are, is that we had the wonderful Chloe Malon, 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:42.760 who is Cannesbergen's daughter, who is now the editor of Vogue. 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:44.640 And the funny thing is that when we had her 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:46.880 on she was not the editor of Vogue. Yet she 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.240 was working at Vogue and she had a title I 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.000 can't remember what it was, but she was doing their 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.200 podcast and so she was very much in it. And 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:56.040 I remember I said this, I had texted Sarah asking 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.360 her a question about one of the outfits. I can't remember. 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:03.400 Maybe the short it's you know, the poor boy cap 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:05.480 in the shorts. Yes, And I had said, you were 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.280 having Chloe on and you know what do you can 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.640 you tell me about this outfit or whatever? And she said, oh, 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.640 you know, Chloe is going to be the editor of Vogue. 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.360 And I was like, whoa is she? Because I'm not 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.920 I don't know stuff like that, Sir Jesca. She was like, yeah, yeah, 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:19.040 I think she's going to get it. And I was 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.200 like wow, And she was right. 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:22.120 She was right. 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:25.520 And the day we were talking to Chloe, remember we 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.600 talked to her for a long time and at a 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.760 certain point her phone buzzed and she looked at it 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:32.560 and she was like, oh my god, Kristen, I'm so sorry, 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.280 I've got to go. That was the day that Anna 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:39.520 announced that she was stepping down. It was really funny. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.960 I didn't know that got the phone call. 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.800 Yeah, yeah, that's what it was. That's what was. Yeah. 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:46.600 The next day we all learned that they had they 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.440 had called everybody up to the conference room or whatever. 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:51.640 Well, if you want to listen to a piece of 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:53.720 fashion history, you go back and listen to are you 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:54.560 Charlotte with. 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:59.400 That's true. That's true. It was before before she was editor. 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.720 Now she's edited. But I don't think she's changed at all. Like, 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:05.440 she's just so adorable and likable and such a good writer, 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.360 and you know, she's very I don't think that you 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.200 can ever kind of win in that situation where you're 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.640 being compared to Anna Wintour, right, I think that's an 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.040 unfair comparison, you know, and that she's doing a great, 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.000 great job. Like I think the covers since she's been 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.720 on have been great. Not that I'm an expert, but 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.960 I think she's fantastic. All right, let's talk about this episode. 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:29.040 So now now I've got questions about Enid, but that's okay. 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.760 So basically, now this is one thing I'm gonna have 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.440 to ask Easton. I'm just gonna be honest with everybody. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:40.000 We are watching out of order. I don't know why. 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.280 I think it's based on guests. I'm not really sure, 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:48.520 but I don't understand. Can you shortly tell me what 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.680 happened with Aiden and Carrie that they're broken up? Because 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.480 Carrie says very quickly in the voice over the beginning 0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:00.960 that she's big changes have happened and she's cut her hair. Basically, 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:02.200 there's been a breakup. 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:03.680 We see her in a Bob at the beginning of 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:04.400 the episode, and. 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.160 Is that the first time that we're seeing in the Bob? 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:10.920 I believe So okay, uh, I believe the debut of 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:11.640 the Bob, but. 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:16.520 I feel like it. I vaguely remember this whole Bob situation. 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:18.560 There was a lot of stress. I'm just also want 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:21.120 to be on the record. I think I'm allowed to 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:24.560 say this. I should probably check, But Sarah Jessica's hair 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.560 broke off because she had a contract with a hair 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.720 color campaign I'm not going to name it, and she 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:32.680 had to color her hair every which way for like 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:33.600 two solid years. 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:34.200 Oh wow. 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.440 People are like, why did she get that haircut? And 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:38.640 don't mention the haircut? It was horrible and whatever different 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:40.160 things they say to me about her hair, And I'm like, 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.960 did she don't have a choice. We're in production and 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.680 her hair is just like breaking, you know what I mean. 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.320 Because it wasn't a normal situation where you're coloring your hair. 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:51.480 It was like be brunette, no, be platinum, no, be 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:55.280 a redhead. Like it was literally like every single plus 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:57.440 you're at work every day getting your hair, you know, 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:00.280 heated and styled at all the things. So it's not 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.120 like anyone thought like, oh, yes, we want to cut 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:03.880 Sir Jeska's hair. No, we just had to cut Sir 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:07.040 Jesska's hair. So Surge cut her hair. Serge Normant, her 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:11.240 longtime hairstylist, who we all love so much, and I 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.520 thought he did a great job. And then he had 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.080 a job, I believe with Julia Robertson had to go. 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.760 And this first day when she is wearing that beautiful, 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:23.159 beautiful suit and walking down the street with all the people, 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.119 it's so good. The way the episode opens, I believe 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.200 that day a Surge couldn't be there and he doesn't 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.159 normally come. Well, he did, and just like that, but 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.439 back in the olden days, he was not on the 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:35.480 set all day. He would just cut her hair in life, right, 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.480 but he was supposed to be there. Because everyone was 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:40.879 so stressed about the haircut, he couldn't be there. And 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.440 so Chris McMillan came, who we also know and love, 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:45.480 and did her hair that day, which was really really 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.679 fun because he's a fun person. But I remember so 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:50.080 much stress about the haircut. 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.200 Oh wow, yeah, I mean I thought it. 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.360 I mean, I think it looks great too. But I 0:17:55.400 --> 0:18:00.760 also understand now that I'm looking at things more, you know, objectively, 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.920 her hair was so much a part of her and 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:07.639 her hair in the show. It's like a character. It 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:11.320 changes and it's so glamorous and beautiful. It does this 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:12.760 and does that in so many different things. 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:13.520 So is to cut it. 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:17.520 I do understand that that was crazy, but no one 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.239 had a choice. No one wanted to cut it, you know, 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:22.240 And I do think. I think Sara Jessica the last 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.280 time it came up, she was like, yeah, I don't 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.320 talk about the Bob. I was like, I get it, 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:38.359 I get it. It was a necessary thing that happened. Okay, 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.960 my Hyundai hot take. The opening of this episode is 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:46.720 just phenomenal because I feel like in the past we've 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.720 used very sparingly. Because this is a it's a very 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.720 difficult thing for directors to film, right Like Charles McDougall 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:55.639 did it with Kyle and I when we're going to 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:58.239 the Tiffany's window. But it's hard to do. You have 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:01.600 to trust yourself and your DP and the crew and 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:04.359 everybody and the actor, you know, because they're in a 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.360 sea if people blocks away, like she's probably blocks away 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:10.640 from where the camera was set up, just just trusting 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.040 that she's in, you know. But the thing that was 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.160 so great about it, it's such a strong, strong way 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:19.800 to start, and it's kind of placing her in the 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:23.159 bigger picture of New York, which is very, very very 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.080 much how you feel in New York, Like you're just 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:28.880 one of all these millions of people trying to make it, 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.359 you know what I mean. And she's got this new haircut, 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:33.440 and she's wearing a suit, and it's her first day 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.600 of work, and so she's kind of placing herself in 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:39.200 the working force of New York in a different way 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:41.760 than we're used to seeing her. And the visuals just 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:47.240