Speaker 1: Hi. I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are
Speaker 1: you a Charlotte Guess what you guys? Welcome back to
Speaker 1: Are you a Charlotte guest? Who's here today? Easton? Hi?
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me back, Christens.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited, so excited that you're back because Easton,
Speaker 1: You guys, this is a whole thing. Easton has been stolen,
Speaker 1: okay away from me by the Jonas brothers. Can I
Speaker 1: just share that with you? And please tell us? Where
Speaker 1: have you been and what have you been doing? Oh?
Speaker 2: Man, Well, we launched a podcast here today Heart Radio
Speaker 2: called the Hey Jonas Podcast and it's been a lot
Speaker 2: of fun and I have had the pleasure of going
Speaker 2: on tour with them crazy for the last month. So
Speaker 2: I've been to Buenos Aires, Argentina, Mexico City, Las Vegas, Wow, Sacramento.
Speaker 2: I was in London last week. It's been a wild ride,
Speaker 2: but it's been so much fun and the guys are
Speaker 2: so funny either. The show so much fun to listen to.
Speaker 2: Oh that's good, and I think fans of this show
Speaker 2: will really like Hey Jonas as well.
Speaker 1: I can also I want to tell you guys that
Speaker 1: I'm We're in our studio, our little studio, and across
Speaker 1: from me is a huge drawing that says hey Jonas
Speaker 1: and has a stick figure and a bunny, an evil
Speaker 1: looking bunny, and some signatures on it. So I'm basically
Speaker 1: looking at their set, which is very interesting, very different
Speaker 1: than mine. I'm like, wow, it's very it's very trippy.
Speaker 1: And then also next door we have where Kate Hudson
Speaker 1: and Oliver Hudson, who we love so much, record their
Speaker 1: podcast and now they're going to be doing it for Netflix.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot going on around here.
Speaker 2: It's so funny, like do you remember when sometimes you
Speaker 2: watch those old movies and they go to like a
Speaker 2: movie set and they'd be like a guy in a
Speaker 2: night costume and then someone dress as an alien and
Speaker 2: like an old West. Ye, sometimes it feels like that
Speaker 2: around here.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like that? I do feel like that.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of the studio a lot, yes,
Speaker 1: because we've got all everything smushed together. So do you
Speaker 1: want to hear my Jonas story while we're while we're here?
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever told you this, mad
Speaker 1: have told Hannah. So when Wilson, my son was tiny,
Speaker 1: I got a job or. I'd been developing this script
Speaker 1: for Netflix about elephants, and we were able to film
Speaker 1: this movie about elephants in South Africa and Zambia. So
Speaker 1: it was weird timing because Wilson was six months old,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, a little bit hard, but in
Speaker 1: some ways they're kind of easy to travel with, right
Speaker 1: because they're like so little. You know, they're not loud
Speaker 1: and you know, running around toddlers. They're like a tiny baby.
Speaker 1: So he's six months old and we're going off to
Speaker 1: South Africa to film and it's pretty exciting. I've got
Speaker 1: a baby nurse with me that I'm taking because it's
Speaker 1: going to be long hours. I'm in every scene of
Speaker 1: this movie. It's a movie based on my own experience
Speaker 1: with the Sheldrick Foundation, the sorry the Sheldrick Trust in Kenya,
Speaker 1: but we weren't using their name. It was just inspired
Speaker 1: by them and my experience with them. So we go
Speaker 1: to get on We have a fantastic plane. We're on
Speaker 1: the Emirates first Class, which is like very very dreamy,
Speaker 1: and Rob Low's with me. He's in the movie as well,
Speaker 1: and I'm there with my six month old and my
Speaker 1: night nurse and I have you. There's some of the
Speaker 1: first class cabin things have a little crib of I
Speaker 1: don't even know if that's the right word, like a
Speaker 1: little cot that comes out of the wall.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty cool, very perfect bed for babies.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: So I've got my baby nurse and we're right next
Speaker 1: to each other with the you know, little crib thing
Speaker 1: happening whatever you call it, a little like it's like
Speaker 1: a hammock basically for a baby. So this girl comes on.
Speaker 1: She's wearing a sweatshirt, she's really stressing out. She's standing
Speaker 1: in the first class Kevin just hemming and haueing like stressing.
Speaker 1: And she comes up to me and she says, well,
Speaker 1: you know whatd it be? Okay? Could I move your seat?
Speaker 1: Could you move a seat? And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't really move the seat because I need this
Speaker 1: baby sling here to put my baby in because I'm
Speaker 1: really hoping he sleeps during this flight, because I was
Speaker 1: so worried about him on this first class flight that
Speaker 1: costs like so much money to be up there. So
Speaker 1: I had gone and gotten these Starbucks cards for everybody
Speaker 1: in the first class cabin because I thought they might
Speaker 1: really really be mad at me because I didn't know
Speaker 1: what Wilson was going to do, right, I had no idea.
Speaker 1: I had never flown with a six month old to
Speaker 1: South Africa, you know what I'm saying. So I didn't know.
Speaker 1: So I was really nervous and I didn't know why
Speaker 1: this girl needed me to change seats. But I explained
Speaker 1: why I couldn't. She said, okay, but she seemed quite nervous,
Speaker 1: quite nervous, quite nervous. So at the very last minute,
Speaker 1: everyone else in first class was born, and there were
Speaker 1: two empty seats at the very last minute. One of
Speaker 1: the Jonas brothers, who's married to Prianna, and that would
Speaker 1: be Prianca, Thank you Prianka, who's she married to.
Speaker 2: Nick john Nick?
Speaker 1: Okay, See, this is very hard for me. I can't
Speaker 1: tell them apart. So Nick Jonas comes on with pre
Speaker 1: and he sits behind me and she sits over to
Speaker 1: the side, and I was like, okay, I feel like
Speaker 1: this is a thing that I should know about, but
Speaker 1: I don't really know, and I'm really just focused on
Speaker 1: a six month Luckily, Wilson does great, basically doesn't cry.
Speaker 1: I know, thank God in Heaven, right, because I was
Speaker 1: just like, what am I going to do I'm going
Speaker 1: to dive embarrassment. He didn't make a peep. It was awesome. Right.
Speaker 1: So we land and I go to hand out my
Speaker 1: Starbucks cards. I'd already talked to Brianca. She's adorable. She
Speaker 1: wanted to see the baby. She grabbed his cheeks and
Speaker 1: he smiled at her, and she was happy. She was adorable.
Speaker 1: I knew she was an actress, but I didn't. I
Speaker 1: wasn't sure which Jonah's brother it was, Britna was somebody,
Speaker 1: but whatever. I was just handing out my cards to everyone, right,
Speaker 1: And he was so shy and sweet, and he was like,
Speaker 1: you don't need to give me that, and I was like, no, no,
Speaker 1: I already got them for everyone enjoy, you know. And
Speaker 1: he was just like a sweet young man, you know.
Speaker 1: And I thought, that's so interesting that they are themselves, yes,
Speaker 1: but yet adorable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been in this spotlight for such a long time,
Speaker 2: and yet there's still these like these pure adorable souls.
Speaker 1: Well I agree, That's how I felt. I mean, not
Speaker 1: that I had that mouch contact with them, but I
Speaker 1: was like, well, you would just never think that that
Speaker 1: guy is going to go get up on a stage
Speaker 1: and have squealing girls and whatever.
Speaker 2: You know, I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 1: I'm glad if they're nice because you're running all around
Speaker 1: the world with them.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they've been. They're so nice, They're so fun
Speaker 2: to be with, good having a blast. I have missed
Speaker 2: being here, though, I love being you know, usually I'm
Speaker 2: sitting across the room here, but I have a front
Speaker 2: row seat to this.
Speaker 1: I know. We love to have you. We really really
Speaker 1: missed you when you're not here. So it's very special
Speaker 1: that not only are you back, you're actually going to
Speaker 1: break down a Vogue idea with me, which is a
Speaker 1: very very good and interesting and important episode.
Speaker 2: Don't yes, Oh absolutely yeah. When I saw that this
Speaker 2: was the episode I had been signed, I was like,
Speaker 2: I love this episode.
Speaker 1: It's really good, and I really watched it, not remembering
Speaker 1: hardly any of it. I kind of remembered the kind
Speaker 1: of the broad strokes of Carrie's storyline that she goes
Speaker 1: to the Vogue closet and finds the Manila blan Mary Jans,
Speaker 1: partly because when we went to Manolo Blanik last year
Speaker 1: with Kathy ang from and just like that, they gave
Speaker 1: me a re addition of the Mary Jans that I
Speaker 1: believe it was like the thirtieth anniversary or something. Wow,
Speaker 1: I know, I know. So I have a really beautiful
Speaker 1: pair that I feel like I shouldn't even wear, like
Speaker 1: they're so pristine, and it was really pretty. They put
Speaker 1: a little pearl on the closure as like a special
Speaker 1: thing for the anniversary. I love that, I know, I know.
Speaker 1: So I have another new thing that I think of
Speaker 1: when I watched the episode, But I only really remembered
Speaker 1: just the broadest strokes. I did not remember my storyline
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So I didn't know what was going to happen. I
Speaker 1: was like, what is all, Lord Charlotte, What's going to happen?
Speaker 1: So it was really enjoyable. But also the thing that's
Speaker 1: amazing it was written by Alan Heinberg, who we love
Speaker 1: so much and we're really hoping that he will come
Speaker 1: on the podcast. Yes, he's a very different element added
Speaker 1: to the show. He's the one who his first episode
Speaker 1: was the one about the comic book writer, and Alan
Speaker 1: has a whole comic book thing and he's gone on
Speaker 1: to show run big shows that are based on comic books,
Speaker 1: and you know, he's he's a big mucketing muck. Now
Speaker 1: he doesn't have time, but at some point we hope
Speaker 1: he comes on, because he really was very different. And
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know how long he was with us.
Speaker 1: I want to say, like maybe two seasons or one
Speaker 1: and a half seasons, but like he really brought a different,
Speaker 1: a different take to think.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm curious, like there's such an an intimate like
Speaker 2: understanding of Vogue in this episode. Yeah, and I wonder
Speaker 2: if you know he's a he's a comic book guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how. I don't know how he
Speaker 1: got the intimate understanding. I mean, we need to do
Speaker 1: some research about this, because I do think that this
Speaker 1: is the beginning, as far as I know of our
Speaker 1: relationtionship with Vogue, and we do have an ongoing relationship
Speaker 1: with Vogue. Remember we have the Vogue shoot in the movie,
Speaker 1: and Plum Sykes and Andrew Andre Leon Tally came for
Speaker 1: that film filming day. It was incredible. We knew them anyway,
Speaker 1: but it was adorable to have them. And I know
Speaker 1: that Anna read the film script and gave her thoughts.
Speaker 1: I think to Michael Patrick, I want to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's possible that that happened with this because somehow
Speaker 1: we were able to have Kendice Bergen play Anna. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is weird. It's obviously before the devil War's product,
Speaker 1: so like it's kind of the beginning of this like
Speaker 1: cooperation between Vogue and fictional tellings of Vogue.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, it's yeah, it's so interesting because now
Speaker 2: it's it's become such a such a thing. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: was thinking about that actually watching Handis, I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, knowing it predates devil Ware's product. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm like, how much of this is Anna?
Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder too, but I really liked what
Speaker 1: Kendice did. I mean, of course I like what Meryl
Speaker 1: does as well. And Marylyn has said very specifically that
Speaker 1: it's not Anna, that she has other inspirations that are men,
Speaker 1: because she's looking at power and how how to portray power,
Speaker 1: which I think is really interesting. Obviously Anna is very powerful.
Speaker 1: I've been in many a room with Anna. I'm always
Speaker 1: pretty scared, Okay, pretty scared, but she is so warm
Speaker 1: and lovely to Sir Jessica, and they have such a
Speaker 1: long and lovely relationship, so I just wait, I'm just there.
Speaker 1: Sarah's usually there and I'm just waiting and I'm just
Speaker 1: not sure what to do, and then Anna will turn
Speaker 1: and just be like lovely to me, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is just based on Sir Jessica, and I'm so happy.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy. But you know, sometimes when they say
Speaker 1: that she's just arbitrarily mean or whatever, I've never seen that,
Speaker 1: never seen that, never seen that. I have seen her
Speaker 1: be in an elevator and not talk to anyone, you know,
Speaker 1: behind the sheets exactly, but I mean in an elevator
Speaker 1: of friends, I shall say, in an elevator at an
Speaker 1: event right where the other people are talking because we're
Speaker 1: all going at the same event, right. I have seen
Speaker 1: her just be like, no, I'm not I'm not going
Speaker 1: to make small talk or whatever. I've seen that. But
Speaker 1: that's not that crazy, you know, that is what it is.
Speaker 1: And she's allowed. She's allowed cool. Yeah, yeah, But I
Speaker 1: know some other people that she's really nice to and
Speaker 1: warm too, and smiles and you know, does all the
Speaker 1: things that you don't think she does. But I loved
Speaker 1: what Candace did in our show because at one point
Speaker 1: she just laughs at Carrie, which is really funny, you know,
Speaker 1: and Candace just has such a way of like turning
Speaker 1: her phrasing. It's it's very interesting. And obviously Michael and
Speaker 1: Candace go way back to Murphy Brown, which was Michael's
Speaker 1: first big job, wow, which she wanted Emmy for writing
Speaker 1: for Murphy Brown starring Candace, which maybe you youngsters listening
Speaker 1: have not heard or seen. It's a great sitcom from
Speaker 1: the I want to say late eighties, nineties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely in the nineties. In Seinfeld, Kramer gets
Speaker 2: a part on Murphy Brown way in the show, like
Speaker 2: in the plot of the show. Yes, there's in Seinfeld.
Speaker 2: In Seinfeld, how could I have missed that? And the
Speaker 2: Kramer moves to La for like three episodes and she's
Speaker 2: part of Murphy Brown, and Candace has a cameo.
Speaker 1: And it's fun so funny and good. Now let's let's
Speaker 1: finish our connection. So Candace plays Anna Wintour in our show,
Speaker 1: which is weird, but actually she's end because later but
Speaker 1: do we call her Enid in here? But then remember
Speaker 1: when Carrie gets drunk and she's walking out and a
Speaker 1: blonde girl bumps inder and she says, tell me that
Speaker 1: wasn't Anna Wintour.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was confusing, Right, Yeah, so maybe I don't
Speaker 1: know if we actually do we actually say that Candace
Speaker 1: is ened in this one? Where is that later might
Speaker 1: be lady.
Speaker 2: In this episode? They do call her emails?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: And then I was wondering, like, this is the first
Speaker 2: time Carrie is written for Vogue, Like would Anna like
Speaker 2: be with you know, like.
Speaker 1: That's a good question, but probably probably no, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: But the way she's built up and the way she's
Speaker 1: so negative and then and the important she has to carry,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it's confusing. I need to
Speaker 1: rewatch it and think about that. But the thing that
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure I connect to our readers listeners,
Speaker 1: whatever they are, is that we had the wonderful Chloe Malon,
Speaker 1: who is Cannesbergen's daughter, who is now the editor of Vogue.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is that when we had her
Speaker 1: on she was not the editor of Vogue. Yet she
Speaker 1: was working at Vogue and she had a title I
Speaker 1: can't remember what it was, but she was doing their
Speaker 1: podcast and so she was very much in it. And
Speaker 1: I remember I said this, I had texted Sarah asking
Speaker 1: her a question about one of the outfits. I can't remember.
Speaker 1: Maybe the short it's you know, the poor boy cap
Speaker 1: in the shorts. Yes, And I had said, you were
Speaker 1: having Chloe on and you know what do you can
Speaker 1: you tell me about this outfit or whatever? And she said, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, Chloe is going to be the editor of Vogue.
Speaker 1: And I was like, whoa is she? Because I'm not
Speaker 1: I don't know stuff like that, Sir Jesca. She was like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think she's going to get it. And I was
Speaker 1: like wow, And she was right.
Speaker 2: She was right.
Speaker 1: And the day we were talking to Chloe, remember we
Speaker 1: talked to her for a long time and at a
Speaker 1: certain point her phone buzzed and she looked at it
Speaker 1: and she was like, oh my god, Kristen, I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: I've got to go. That was the day that Anna
Speaker 1: announced that she was stepping down. It was really funny.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that got the phone call.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what it was. That's what was. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The next day we all learned that they had they
Speaker 1: had called everybody up to the conference room or whatever.
Speaker 2: Well, if you want to listen to a piece of
Speaker 2: fashion history, you go back and listen to are you
Speaker 2: Charlotte with.
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. It was before before she was editor.
Speaker 1: Now she's edited. But I don't think she's changed at all. Like,
Speaker 1: she's just so adorable and likable and such a good writer,
Speaker 1: and you know, she's very I don't think that you
Speaker 1: can ever kind of win in that situation where you're
Speaker 1: being compared to Anna Wintour, right, I think that's an
Speaker 1: unfair comparison, you know, and that she's doing a great,
Speaker 1: great job. Like I think the covers since she's been
Speaker 1: on have been great. Not that I'm an expert, but
Speaker 1: I think she's fantastic. All right, let's talk about this episode.
Speaker 1: So now now I've got questions about Enid, but that's okay.
Speaker 1: So basically, now this is one thing I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to ask Easton. I'm just gonna be honest with everybody.
Speaker 1: We are watching out of order. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I think it's based on guests. I'm not really sure,
Speaker 1: but I don't understand. Can you shortly tell me what
Speaker 1: happened with Aiden and Carrie that they're broken up? Because
Speaker 1: Carrie says very quickly in the voice over the beginning
Speaker 1: that she's big changes have happened and she's cut her hair. Basically,
Speaker 1: there's been a breakup.
Speaker 2: We see her in a Bob at the beginning of
Speaker 2: the episode, and.
Speaker 1: Is that the first time that we're seeing in the Bob?
Speaker 2: I believe So okay, uh, I believe the debut of
Speaker 2: the Bob, but.
Speaker 1: I feel like it. I vaguely remember this whole Bob situation.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of stress. I'm just also want
Speaker 1: to be on the record. I think I'm allowed to
Speaker 1: say this. I should probably check, But Sarah Jessica's hair
Speaker 1: broke off because she had a contract with a hair
Speaker 1: color campaign I'm not going to name it, and she
Speaker 1: had to color her hair every which way for like
Speaker 1: two solid years.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: People are like, why did she get that haircut? And
Speaker 1: don't mention the haircut? It was horrible and whatever different
Speaker 1: things they say to me about her hair, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: did she don't have a choice. We're in production and
Speaker 1: her hair is just like breaking, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Because it wasn't a normal situation where you're coloring your hair.
Speaker 1: It was like be brunette, no, be platinum, no, be
Speaker 1: a redhead. Like it was literally like every single plus
Speaker 1: you're at work every day getting your hair, you know,
Speaker 1: heated and styled at all the things. So it's not
Speaker 1: like anyone thought like, oh, yes, we want to cut
Speaker 1: Sir Jeska's hair. No, we just had to cut Sir
Speaker 1: Jesska's hair. So Surge cut her hair. Serge Normant, her
Speaker 1: longtime hairstylist, who we all love so much, and I
Speaker 1: thought he did a great job. And then he had
Speaker 1: a job, I believe with Julia Robertson had to go.
Speaker 1: And this first day when she is wearing that beautiful,
Speaker 1: beautiful suit and walking down the street with all the people,
Speaker 1: it's so good. The way the episode opens, I believe
Speaker 1: that day a Surge couldn't be there and he doesn't
Speaker 1: normally come. Well, he did, and just like that, but
Speaker 1: back in the olden days, he was not on the
Speaker 1: set all day. He would just cut her hair in life, right,
Speaker 1: but he was supposed to be there. Because everyone was
Speaker 1: so stressed about the haircut, he couldn't be there. And
Speaker 1: so Chris McMillan came, who we also know and love,
Speaker 1: and did her hair that day, which was really really
Speaker 1: fun because he's a fun person. But I remember so
Speaker 1: much stress about the haircut.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, I mean I thought it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it looks great too. But I
Speaker 1: also understand now that I'm looking at things more, you know, objectively,
Speaker 1: her hair was so much a part of her and
Speaker 1: her hair in the show. It's like a character. It
Speaker 1: changes and it's so glamorous and beautiful. It does this
Speaker 1: and does that in so many different things.
Speaker 2: So is to cut it.
Speaker 1: I do understand that that was crazy, but no one
Speaker 1: had a choice. No one wanted to cut it, you know,
Speaker 1: And I do think. I think Sara Jessica the last
Speaker 1: time it came up, she was like, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: talk about the Bob. I was like, I get it,
Speaker 1: I get it. It was a necessary thing that happened. Okay,
Speaker 1: my Hyundai hot take. The opening of this episode is
Speaker 1: just phenomenal because I feel like in the past we've
Speaker 1: used very sparingly. Because this is a it's a very
Speaker 1: difficult thing for directors to film, right Like Charles McDougall
Speaker 1: did it with Kyle and I when we're going to
Speaker 1: the Tiffany's window. But it's hard to do. You have
Speaker 1: to trust yourself and your DP and the crew and
Speaker 1: everybody and the actor, you know, because they're in a
Speaker 1: sea if people blocks away, like she's probably blocks away
Speaker 1: from where the camera was set up, just just trusting
Speaker 1: that she's in, you know. But the thing that was
Speaker 1: so great about it, it's such a strong, strong way
Speaker 1: to start, and it's kind of placing her in the
Speaker 1: bigger picture of New York, which is very, very very
Speaker 1: much how you feel in New York, Like you're just
Speaker 1: one of all these millions of people trying to make it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And she's got this new haircut,
Speaker 1: and she's wearing a suit, and it's her first day
Speaker 1: of work, and so she's kind of placing herself in
Speaker 1: the working force of New York in a different way
Speaker 1: than we're used to seeing her. And the visuals just
Speaker 1: are so powerful for it, but also have such a history,
Speaker 1: you know, like the movies that I just set off
Speaker 1: the top of my head when we started, Like there's
Speaker 1: so many, like I think there's de Niro and Taxi Driver,
Speaker 1: Like there's so many iconic, iconic scenes in Film of Peace,
Speaker 1: people walking down the street with all the hordes of
Speaker 1: people in New York and this is what it is,
Speaker 1: and it almost looks like the seventies. Yes, And then
Speaker 1: she emerges in this fantastic suit with her haircut, and
Speaker 1: they have that cool shot of her back kind of
Speaker 1: like on the street, like when she's looking for the
Speaker 1: address for the door. You know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: don't know quite what she's doing. She's doing something interesting,
Speaker 1: something Carrie like. But yes, for sure, that could be
Speaker 1: our Hondai hot take, for sure because it's super strong,
Speaker 1: very evocative. Yes, right, that would be our Hondai hot take,
Speaker 1: celebrating iconic moments, bold moves, and unforgettable style, just like Hyundai.
Speaker 2: So Carrie and Aiden breakup to not the last episode,
Speaker 2: the episode before episode fifteen, and she's not excited about
Speaker 2: wedding planning. He's getting frustrated that they're not moving that along.
Speaker 2: They get into the fight, Aiden walks through the hole
Speaker 2: in the wall, and then we find out through the
Speaker 2: voiceover at the end of the episode that Aiden has
Speaker 2: moved out and they are calling off their engagement. They
Speaker 2: have broken up. That's where we are here at the
Speaker 2: beginning of episode seventeen.
Speaker 1: So we're in the fallout basically the breakup, and what
Speaker 1: she says in the voiceover of the beginning of this
Speaker 1: one is that she has a new mortgage, so she's
Speaker 1: figured out the apartment situation with the help of Charlotte,
Speaker 1: I guess, which is really funny because like in my
Speaker 1: mind also, I hadn't really remembered. I remember the scene
Speaker 1: around the table about the money, but I didn't remember
Speaker 1: that I ended up giving her my ring afterwards. I
Speaker 1: remember kind of the argument, but I didn't remember that.
Speaker 1: I do take it and say, like, yeah, what else?
Speaker 1: What else am I going to do with this? Like
Speaker 1: let me help you, you know, which is adorable. So
Speaker 1: she goes and gets a job at Vogue in addition
Speaker 1: to her column, so that she's making more money. Because
Speaker 1: we've had this whole like Carrie's fiscal irresponsibility storyline going
Speaker 1: on all season, right, so how come she goes to Vogue?
Speaker 1: And that's what we start the episode with. And I
Speaker 1: just want to say also that this episode is directed
Speaker 1: by Martha Coolidge, who's a lovely, lovely woman who I
Speaker 1: totally had forgotten about. And I don't mean that in
Speaker 1: a bad way, but like she's not one of the
Speaker 1: directors that is like showy that we think of, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But this episode is so beautifully directed.
Speaker 1: I thought, yes, like everyone's really comfortable. It's a beautifully shot.
Speaker 1: The camera moves are beautiful but not distracting. I love
Speaker 1: any director who shoots with like a gaggle of regular
Speaker 1: people walking on the street.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, which is fun.
Speaker 1: It's so reminiscent of say Tutsi And uh, what's the
Speaker 1: one that Sybil Shepherd is in? The last picture shows?
Speaker 1: And you know, so many old old movies for all
Speaker 1: you young people, but great movies. So I love that,
Speaker 1: and I think that she did a really really good
Speaker 1: job directing this. So what did you think at the
Speaker 1: very beginning? I mean, obviously I've seen it many times,
Speaker 1: but what did you think about Carrie working at Vogue?
Speaker 2: I thought it was exciting. I feel like her column
Speaker 2: obviously doesn't exist in the real like Carry Bradshaw is
Speaker 2: not a real person, you know, but vote you know,
Speaker 2: it's I know, it's.
Speaker 1: Like it's complicated.
Speaker 2: It's complicated. It's complicated, but like, uh, seeing her work
Speaker 2: at a real magazine is exciting and.
Speaker 1: It's really interesting. And it's not just a magazines, it's
Speaker 1: a Vogue. It's for all of us. Now. It is
Speaker 1: interesting because now I don't know what it means to people,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like things are changing, but certainly to
Speaker 1: our generation, it really was the Bible in so many ways.
Speaker 1: It was so lofty, like desirable, and you know, you
Speaker 1: just waited to get the new Vogue. He took it
Speaker 1: home right away, and for me, I would do my
Speaker 1: nails while I looked at the new Vogue because it
Speaker 1: took that long, right, you just like look at it
Speaker 1: and you have to go back through then you have
Speaker 1: to pick what you were going to read when you
Speaker 1: would go back to the pictures, you like, you know,
Speaker 1: it was like a whole process. It was like a day.
Speaker 1: You know, it was fun. It was fun in the
Speaker 1: olden days with like the paper magazines. People don't even
Speaker 1: really realize that now. Yeah, but I do think it
Speaker 1: still has a lot of meaning absolutely right, like who's
Speaker 1: on the cover of Vogue. And I think they've done
Speaker 1: a good job, like we were staying with Chloe mal
Speaker 1: where they've diversified it now where there's the podcast and
Speaker 1: there's visuals and there's videos that go with the photo
Speaker 1: shoots now and like all those things I think are
Speaker 1: helping it stay relevant.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's fun because it's it's still such a big
Speaker 2: fixture in fashion. But then also you can see like
Speaker 2: an interviewer Dua Lipa is playing ping pong and answering
Speaker 2: questions at the same time or something.
Speaker 1: That's so cool. Absolutely, they've done that well, I think,
Speaker 1: don't you think? Yeah? I think, yeah, I really do
Speaker 1: think they've done that well. And I do think also
Speaker 1: like Gracie Abrams is on the cover right now, and
Speaker 1: that's a big deal. That's a big deal, your first
Speaker 1: Vogue cover. And also I love them because they've just
Speaker 1: been so great to sir Jesca. She's done the most
Speaker 1: amazing covers and stories and they dress are up in
Speaker 1: like ball gowns and whatever. So and that would have
Speaker 1: I think already happened in life, right, yes, And then
Speaker 1: so her relationship with Vogue is kind of happening like
Speaker 1: in real life, but then also on the show, which
Speaker 1: is interesting. And then we incorporate them in the movie
Speaker 1: when they come and do Carrie Bradshaw's wedding thing. It's cool.
Speaker 1: I love the crossover kind of weirdness of it all.
Speaker 2: Yes, me too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So go ahead, they come. We go to Vogue.
Speaker 1: Ron Rifkins is there, he's playing Julian that's his name.
Speaker 1: We love Ron Rifkins. So much. I remember this whole
Speaker 1: thing was like, you know, none of us gets to
Speaker 1: go to Vogue, right, it's very much Carrie's Carrie's world.
Speaker 1: But we were so jealous, like we were like, how
Speaker 1: did it go? How was everyone? What was it like?
Speaker 1: And there were all those extras. Do you remember there's
Speaker 1: like so many people who worked there. It's a whole
Speaker 1: whole other thing that started up. You know, it was
Speaker 1: like a big, a big deal on the you know.
Speaker 2: The real office they filmed it or no, no, I
Speaker 2: don't think it was.
Speaker 1: I would have to double check that, but I don't
Speaker 1: think it was. I've oh, it could have been. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I've been to the Vogue office. It
Speaker 1: doesn't look like that, but that's because it sat down
Speaker 1: at that one cond nasty way downtown and we were
Speaker 1: just there when we were promoting, and just like that,
Speaker 1: we were. There's like a floor for Vogue, a floor
Speaker 1: for I don't know all their different was their other
Speaker 1: one called Cosmopolitan or something. We went you had to
Speaker 1: like go up and down to different floors to do
Speaker 1: different things for different you know, press opportunities or whatever.
Speaker 1: It was kind of KOOKI I can't even remember there
Speaker 1: are other condennesk magazines, but I guess this would have
Speaker 1: been before that, so it could have been their real
Speaker 1: but it would have been very hard for them to
Speaker 1: function and have us they are filming. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: also felt like the short little tracking shots that they
Speaker 1: did have of uh, Carrie and Enid and Julian ron
Speaker 1: Riskin's character there not that long. They're pretty short shots.
Speaker 1: I think it's because they just had a little area
Speaker 1: that they dressed up in offices that That's what I
Speaker 1: thought when I watched it. I also think there were
Speaker 1: too many people there. Yeah, I mean they're trying to
Speaker 1: make it look really busy. I totally get it. I've
Speaker 1: never seen a magazine with that many people like crushed
Speaker 1: into that area, you know what I mean? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: could be wrong. I could be wrong. We can ask
Speaker 1: Michael Patrick.
Speaker 2: I loved There's I mean, this episode there's so many
Speaker 2: like fashion things that jumped out at me. But I
Speaker 2: love Carrie's cameos.
Speaker 1: It's good, right, It's so good.
Speaker 2: A different one later in the I know, I know.
Speaker 1: The thing that I think when I look at it,
Speaker 1: which is kind of funny. Sarah Jessica always loved cameos
Speaker 1: and I grew up with cameos. There's cameos that have
Speaker 1: been handed down in my family that are less beautiful
Speaker 1: and large and whatever. But there was the cameos. The
Speaker 1: first cameo storyline that I'm aware of in the show
Speaker 1: is when I get married, I wear a cameo. And
Speaker 1: there had been a storyline that ended up getting cut,
Speaker 1: and I believe it was you know, you're something old,
Speaker 1: you're something blue, blah blah blah. I think the cameo
Speaker 1: was supposed to be something blue. The tray wanted me
Speaker 1: to wear, or Bunny wanted me to wear, but I
Speaker 1: hated it. So they went and they got these cameos,
Speaker 1: but they were beautiful, and then I string went on
Speaker 1: a chain like it wasn't so because also I was like,
Speaker 1: how how do you wear a cameo on your wedding?
Speaker 1: Like where do you put it? You know, you can't
Speaker 1: like penitch your dress, that'd be bad. Like I remember
Speaker 1: there was a drama about it. And then I remember
Speaker 1: sar Jessica saying like, you know, get this kind, don't
Speaker 1: get that kind, like she was knowledgeable about cameos, which
Speaker 1: of course you know, of course she is. And I
Speaker 1: end up with that beautiful one, which I think I
Speaker 1: have at home actually, and then we had to cut
Speaker 1: the dramatic part of that storyline because it wasn't ugly,
Speaker 1: Like why would Charlotte not love it? Like it was weird?
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? So we cut that section. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I think she was like, yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to wear a cameo. But then of course they're so
Speaker 1: special their unusual cameos like Carrie would have you know.
Speaker 1: But I love that whole I believe it's a Vivian
Speaker 1: Westwood suit. That suit is so gorgeous everything about you know.
Speaker 1: And also at the end she was in another different
Speaker 1: suit that's gorgeous. I love Carrie in the suits because
Speaker 1: we usually don't get to see that, so it's fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love the whole thing. It's a whole departure, really
Speaker 1: fun to watch cut too. Charlotte and Miranda. I didn't
Speaker 1: remember one single bit of this, so it was really
Speaker 1: really interesting for me to watch because I was really
Speaker 1: nervous that Charlotte was going to mess up the whole time.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Charlotte's gonna cry, Charlotte's gonna get baby things,
Speaker 1: Charlotte's not going to listen to Miranda. I had a
Speaker 1: lot of anxiety watching it, and in the end I
Speaker 1: was really pleased with it, but I was like, oh, oh, no, God, Jesus,
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. I didn't remember one bit, which is weird. Okay,
Speaker 1: isn't that weird. I don't know why I remember some
Speaker 1: things and then I don't remember other things. But then
Speaker 1: when I cut, when I'm in that outfit, that weird
Speaker 1: boost with that blue skirt with like paintings on it,
Speaker 1: I remember that outfit. Because that outfit lives on Instagram.
Speaker 1: People will choose it for their favorite outfits. I thought
Speaker 1: it's bizarre, right, It's also like what was pat taking
Speaker 1: that week? Like what am I wearing? It's some fairytale
Speaker 1: princess outfit? I don't know, and I think I own it.
Speaker 1: But also I thought I word in the movie like
Speaker 1: I thought that was like later I was like, what
Speaker 1: am I wearing that?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? But anyway, that's how my memory is
Speaker 1: at this point. It's very patchy, very very patchy. So
Speaker 1: I really love this one because Miranda is very pregnant
Speaker 1: now yes, and Charlotte is obviously not. And not only
Speaker 1: is she not pregnant. She is now getting divorced. So
Speaker 1: it's a great jexta position of the two storylines and
Speaker 1: how they play on each other. And I love anytime
Speaker 1: that they allow me to have a scene with Cynthia,
Speaker 1: which now we've got to have a couple. It's so exciting, right,
Speaker 1: it's so exciting. So that was really good, and I
Speaker 1: love the writing. And so basically we're at the coffee
Speaker 1: shop and Miranda comes in and she's all flustered because
Speaker 1: she apparently has to buy a stroller. You know, she's
Speaker 1: so funny and Miranda, and now that I've had children myself,
Speaker 1: I can tell you it is a full time job.
Speaker 1: You don't know what the heck to buy. You have
Speaker 1: to do a lot of research. So this was right on.
Speaker 1: Like whoever we were getting baby advice from was right
Speaker 1: on it. None of our writers are pregnant at this point, right,
Speaker 1: so like we're having to, you know, stretch our understanding
Speaker 1: to get these baby storylines going. But we did good
Speaker 1: because this is totally accurate. You don't know what to buy,
Speaker 1: and everyone has opinions, and there are these places that
Speaker 1: they send you which are just literally you could just
Speaker 1: be locked in there for a week and never find
Speaker 1: your way out. You know, there's like just a myriad
Speaker 1: of things to choose from. So Charlotte very rightly says
Speaker 1: to Miranda, well, remember how you didn't want to have
Speaker 1: a baby shower. If you'd had a baby shower, everyone
Speaker 1: would be giving you this stuff. And she's like, but
Speaker 1: I don't want to have a baby shower because everyone
Speaker 1: opens presents, and Carrie and Samantha are like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't want to go to a baby shower, which
Speaker 1: I totally understand. Also right, and also we have the
Speaker 1: history and the show with the baby shower, which you
Speaker 1: know is hysterical but also very relatable storyline. So Charlotte
Speaker 1: very rightly says, Miranda, you need to have a baby
Speaker 1: shower so people will give you these things, and then
Speaker 1: they hem and holl about it. Miranda doesn't want to
Speaker 1: do it. And Miranda doesn't want anything baby or anything stork,
Speaker 1: and she doesn't want sandwiches with the crest cut off.
Speaker 1: She wants fried chicken. And she made Charlotte promise her
Speaker 1: that she will not do any of the typical baby
Speaker 1: shower things, and Charlotte promises, And I had a lot
Speaker 1: of anxiety. It's like Charlotte's not gonna be able to
Speaker 1: do this, Oh no, And then it was fun to
Speaker 1: watch how it all went down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it came together beautifully. I thought. I love watching
Speaker 2: because I too had anxiety about Charlotte, like not being
Speaker 2: able to help herself in this situation. Yeah, but I
Speaker 2: just I just love seeing Charlotte is such a good
Speaker 2: friend and here's so much better friends. And I just
Speaker 2: like watching that.
Speaker 1: Me too, Me too. And also like when she does
Speaker 1: call her work with the quote emergency, and then the
Speaker 1: emergency is that she's at the baby store and she
Speaker 1: needs items for the registry. Very Charlotte, and she's got
Speaker 1: all the baby toys. I remember all those baby toys
Speaker 1: and I was like, what are these things? Because I
Speaker 1: didn't know nothing about babies at that point. I was like, what,
Speaker 1: it's a what? But they were that the who's it?
Speaker 1: The what's it? Whatever it's called. These were very much
Speaker 1: of the time, like very like there are certain gifts
Speaker 1: for baby showers that are in like like a fad
Speaker 1: and when people have babies, like every baby shower you
Speaker 1: go to, there'll be certain things and then they'll pass.
Speaker 1: They'll then they'll be over it and people will be like,
Speaker 1: A what what it'll be, It'll be done. Like when
Speaker 1: my first daughter came, I uh, these swaddles were everywhere,
Speaker 1: and I think they still are. But I don't think
Speaker 1: they're the thing now. Like I think there's other things.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying that there's something. God I don't have kids,
Speaker 2: but I so ma of my friends do. And there's
Speaker 2: there's something. I keep seeing people saying like, oh, you
Speaker 2: have to get this and tremer what it is now
Speaker 2: has a brand name. Maybe I can't know if it's
Speaker 2: like a diaper cleaner or or something, or a diaper
Speaker 2: genieaper genie y.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I was talking about how much you agree the diaper
Speaker 2: Genie is.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's hysterical that things have been around forever. Okay,
Speaker 1: but I would say that it is great. I have
Speaker 1: had many many I tell you many, because at one
Speaker 1: point we had our apartment in New York still and
Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh my god, because diaper is a situation.
Speaker 1: You got to you gotta have the easy disposal for
Speaker 1: the diapers. I don't want to deal with that. But
Speaker 1: then the thing that the girls get to bring the
Speaker 1: funny part of the whole baby situation is that at
Speaker 1: the baby shower, when Charlotte does finally throw it, Samantha
Speaker 1: and Carrie bring this nightmare baby gift, which is so
Speaker 1: funny because they basically ask somebody, I guess they ask Charlotte,
Speaker 1: and Charlotte tells them, and they bring a thing that's
Speaker 1: made of diapers. Yeah, it's weird. It's very weird, but
Speaker 1: they feel very proud of themselves, and then Miranda's not
Speaker 1: that happy. So it was kind of funny, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's a really great way to show, you know,
Speaker 1: the differences of the characters, but also the love, the
Speaker 1: through line of the love, you know, like that scene
Speaker 1: that I have with Miranda. So we're at the baby shower.
Speaker 1: All the lawyers have come. We don't know these lawyers,
Speaker 1: but I'm so glad that they're good friends of Miranda's
Speaker 1: and they came right and we're all there. I was like,
Speaker 1: who's going to come to the baby shower? And I
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, there's a lot of people there are fantastic.
Speaker 2: She works in offices next to people they know.
Speaker 1: It's great, it's great. And one of them brings an
Speaker 1: actual baby, which is interesting, like a like a toddler
Speaker 1: ish type baby. And at one point they one of
Speaker 1: our producers, Grace notton Is, plays the part who gives
Speaker 1: Miranda the Tiffany thing, which was funny. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: there's Grace, our producer. How funny. And then Miranda opens
Speaker 1: the Tiffany thing and it's of course exactly the same
Speaker 1: one that Trey had given Charlotte. And then Charlotte just
Speaker 1: like cries, and I was like, oh lord, man, I
Speaker 1: must have been stressing about that. I mean, anytime the
Speaker 1: writer's write like you know that, you just like whoa.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh lord, but I thought it was okay.
Speaker 2: But I was like, whoo, that's a very good cry,
Speaker 2: was it?
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, okay, okay, thank you.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you pointed out that it was the producer
Speaker 2: who gave her the rattle, because there when I came
Speaker 2: if it's right before she opens it, right after, they
Speaker 2: hold on that woman for a little bit and I'm
Speaker 2: watching it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was so so true. I noticed that as well.
Speaker 1: They hold on her longer than they hold on the
Speaker 1: woman who has the baby, who has a line or
Speaker 1: two and hands the baby to me to Carrie actually
Speaker 1: hands the baby in our general direction and Carrie takes him.
Speaker 1: But yes, they really they had a single setup in
Speaker 1: Grace and they held it there long enough for me
Speaker 1: to go like, oh my god, there's Grace, Wow in
Speaker 1: this episode. Oh my god, there she is. And then
Speaker 1: it was over. It was like a pretty long, pretty
Speaker 1: long You're absolutely right, that's funny.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, I never I never want to
Speaker 2: see you in emotional turmoil. But this is the point
Speaker 2: of you know, drama and everything. It was yeah, great, great, cry,
Speaker 2: thank you, My heart ached for you, for for Charlotte,
Speaker 2: and then seeing her and and Carrie come together, and
Speaker 2: after the child whizzes on right on Carrie. A nice
Speaker 2: moment at the end of that scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked it a lot. I liked it a lot.
Speaker 1: So Charlotte runs off to her bedroom. I'm sure you'll
Speaker 1: all remember. I didn't remember one tiny bit of this,
Speaker 1: not one tiny bit of it. Nope, nope, nothing, nothing, nothing. No,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. I remember, like when we cut
Speaker 1: to the scene in the baby store. I remember filming
Speaker 1: in the baby store. Interesting, and I remember because I
Speaker 1: had to say that, who's what's it in the whatever?
Speaker 1: And I didn't know anything about these things right, and
Speaker 1: so people were having to explain. I think Travis, our
Speaker 1: prop guy, was having to explain to me like this
Speaker 1: is the Who's it, and this is the blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: and I had to be like trying to get those
Speaker 1: lines right when I didn't really know what I was
Speaker 1: talking about, which is always hard. And I was by
Speaker 1: myself in a store and I had to do props
Speaker 1: and the phone. I remember some drama between the phone
Speaker 1: and then I think Marianda hangs up on me, and
Speaker 1: then I have to go get my phone and look
Speaker 1: at it because I've been on a speakerphone. I guess
Speaker 1: I think there was some drama about like how I
Speaker 1: was gonna because they wanted me to like play with
Speaker 1: the toys, but then I would have the phone as well,
Speaker 1: so I remember some stress about that. And generally speaking,
Speaker 1: I hate to act by myself. I do not want
Speaker 1: to act by myself. Some people are really great at it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And they don't care, you know,
Speaker 1: Like for instance, Sarah Jessica Parker, like her stuff in
Speaker 1: her apartment some of my most favorite stuff ever. She's
Speaker 1: just so incredibly good and interesting and somehow dynamic. And
Speaker 1: there's something great about acting on camera by yourself because
Speaker 1: you create this kind of private space, but also the
Speaker 1: crew is there, but you feel very supportive by the crew,
Speaker 1: whereas when you're on stage by yourself, it's just terrifying.
Speaker 1: It's just generally terrifying, right, And like soliloquies, you know,
Speaker 1: or monologues on a stage by yourself, which I have done,
Speaker 1: but I still remember them because they're terrifying because you can't.
Speaker 1: The thing that you learn in acting is to put
Speaker 1: your focus on the other person. And that's how come
Speaker 1: you're not nervous, right, because you are focused on the
Speaker 1: other person and you want something from the other person,
Speaker 1: so that naturally puts your focus on the other person
Speaker 1: and off yourself, which is great. But when there's no
Speaker 1: other person there, what are you gonna do? Do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? You're gonna be focused back on
Speaker 1: yourself and it's gonna be scary. No, that's not true
Speaker 1: for all actors, but for me, really really true. So
Speaker 1: whenever I see myself on the phone or whatever, I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh lord, I know I'm nervous.
Speaker 2: I know I'm nervous with the phone conversation or the
Speaker 2: phone scenes do I apologize if this seems like a
Speaker 2: a dumb question, but like is there someone else like
Speaker 2: on the other end of the phone, Like do they
Speaker 2: have like is there a director saying it?
Speaker 1: Or so this is what they do now. I was
Speaker 1: just in Toronto working. I can't say too much, but
Speaker 1: I can say I had a phone call and the
Speaker 1: other actress was on the other line. Wow, And it
Speaker 1: was fantastic. She was in the hair and makeup trailer.
Speaker 1: She wasn't far away, but she wasn't on set, but
Speaker 1: she was actually on the phone, which was amazing. I'd
Speaker 1: never had that happen before really, because in Sex and
Speaker 1: the City and in just like that, we would make
Speaker 1: a really big effort. It didn't always work, but we
Speaker 1: would make a really big effort that the other actor
Speaker 1: would be there for you, okay, because we you know,
Speaker 1: that's just how we rolled, and that's what Michael Patrick
Speaker 1: wanted because especially like our scenes are very quick, you know,
Speaker 1: we have to have I'm snapping my fingers everyone if
Speaker 1: you can't see me, you know, it's like blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah bah. Right, and we also know
Speaker 1: each other so well, but also you might shift or
Speaker 1: change and oftentimes I don't know if you realize this,
Speaker 1: but there's our guns that happened on the phone, right,
Speaker 1: So if we had an argument on the phone, whoever
Speaker 1: it was would come, And if we were in the
Speaker 1: studio in one of our apartments, the actor would be
Speaker 1: on the other side of the set, right like the
Speaker 1: other side of the wall, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: So you could hear their voice, but you couldn't see them. Now,
Speaker 1: in the case that the actor couldn't be there, which
Speaker 1: could happen right, then our script supervisor or our first
Speaker 1: a D, depending on the situation. We had this one
Speaker 1: first a D Betty Anne, who really was like a
Speaker 1: big personality. I don't know how to put it, but
Speaker 1: she might be reading because she'd have this she'd be
Speaker 1: nearby anyway, and she'd have the script. But technically speaking,
Speaker 1: it should be your script supervisor. And I was just
Speaker 1: thinking about we had this incredible script supervisor, Jen get
Speaker 1: Singers her name, and she's now a big director, and
Speaker 1: she would read it, which was great. Like some script
Speaker 1: supervisors can be very flat because their job is just
Speaker 1: to sit and take notes and do continuity. It's a
Speaker 1: very kind of a nerdy job. It's like a they'd
Speaker 1: take all these notes and dialogue, like write things all
Speaker 1: over the script. You don't have to keep track of everything.
Speaker 1: It's not like, yes, I want to be reading lines
Speaker 1: with people, job right, yeah exactly. But oftentimes that is
Speaker 1: something that they would have to do, but they're never
Speaker 1: loud enough. You're always like what.
Speaker 2: I always wondered if like you had to do it,
Speaker 2: because the part of me is like, oh god, you
Speaker 2: just have to do it alone with nothing and just
Speaker 2: visualize it.
Speaker 1: Oh no, that would be very hard.
Speaker 2: Or then I also picture just like you know, some
Speaker 2: like gruff guy just on the other side of the
Speaker 2: camera going like, uh no, get me the get the.
Speaker 1: It's quiet like that. It's like that. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think for timing, it's very helpful to just have the
Speaker 1: other lines, right, So I think for timing. Now, the
Speaker 1: truth is between a script supervisor and the other actor,
Speaker 1: there's going to be a huge difference in timing and
Speaker 1: intonation obviously, but it's enough to just have like a
Speaker 1: placeholder that you're hearing the other side, because if you're
Speaker 1: having a conversation in your mind or whatever, it's very
Speaker 1: hard to just like imagine the other people talk. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's hard. It's hard. I mean
Speaker 1: they're hard anyway, right, Yeah, but I always think they
Speaker 1: work really well. The thing that I think is interesting
Speaker 1: to think about now is how much we FaceTime people.
Speaker 1: And FaceTime is hard and shows that. I know, some
Speaker 1: shows do it and some shows don't. It's really interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't really know if it works totally,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? It's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Part of me, on a technical level, I'm always like,
Speaker 2: is it easier to do? Because you can just like
Speaker 2: film everyone, you know, like you can like do it
Speaker 2: and post or whatever. But if you're doing like a
Speaker 2: real FaceTime, well.
Speaker 1: The thing that's really hard. I don't think you ever
Speaker 1: do a real FaceTime. You have the camera, the phone
Speaker 1: has like a special special effect. Basically you usually have
Speaker 1: a phone guy come, okay, you know, you have like
Speaker 1: a phone technician, and they come and they have to
Speaker 1: like pause it or play it back or do this
Speaker 1: or do that, and then they put a special screen
Speaker 1: up for special effects that has like marks on it,
Speaker 1: you know, so they can put something on it. But
Speaker 1: it's not so you're never really doing it, doing it right,
Speaker 1: and if you're not really doing it in real time
Speaker 1: where you're looking at the person and look, maybe somebody does.
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is all new technology, which we're
Speaker 1: all trying to figure out what the heck to do
Speaker 1: with in a show, right. But Michael Patrick was like,
Speaker 1: now FaceTime doesn't work. I was like, okay, bye, we
Speaker 1: won't FaceTime. We won't FaceTime anyway. Let's go back to
Speaker 1: the show. Let's go back to the show back in like,
Speaker 1: what year is this now? Two thousand and one? Two? Okay,
Speaker 1: so did we didn't? So the thing that's really sweet
Speaker 1: at the end of the show, which I don't know
Speaker 1: if we totally said. So, we're at the shower, the
Speaker 1: lawyers are there, Charlotte sees this tiffany baby. What is it?
Speaker 1: What do you call that thing? Rattle? Thank you so much?
Speaker 1: The baby rattle very old school and well, one thing
Speaker 1: I should say is that when Miranda does come, because
Speaker 1: at one point Charlotte's like, you better come where surely
Speaker 1: makes sense. Miranda does come. She's not dressed properly, but
Speaker 1: that's okay, and Charlotte luckily got her the fried chicken.
Speaker 1: Thank god. I was like, go, Charlotte, this is so good.
Speaker 1: I was really worried. So then at the end she
Speaker 1: has her little breakdown during the opening of the Presence,
Speaker 1: and then she goes to her bedroom puts a pillow
Speaker 1: over her head, and then Miranda comes in and it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, you have to leave the bedroom because there's
Speaker 1: twenty people out there, and you threw the shower. And
Speaker 1: then they have this lovely scene where Miranda is very
Speaker 1: motherly to Charlotte, which is so helpful because Miranda the
Speaker 1: whole episode has been stressing that she doesn't have maternal instincts, yes,
Speaker 1: which makes so much sense, and as an audience member,
Speaker 1: I was also stressed. But also I struggle between Cynthia
Speaker 1: and Miranda. Right, Cynthia already had a baby when we
Speaker 1: ever met her, you know what I mean? Yeah, And
Speaker 1: now in life I think, no, she doesn't have two yet,
Speaker 1: She's going to have two, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: But like, she's very maternal, but Miranda's not so much maternal,
Speaker 1: you know. So it is really interesting to look at
Speaker 1: and I love the writing because it's very real thing
Speaker 1: that you might get pregnant and you might want to
Speaker 1: have a baby. But you also might be really deeply
Speaker 1: worried that you're not going to be good at it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I get it completely me too.
Speaker 1: And I love the scene where she Miranda goes to
Speaker 1: Carrie's and sits on the stoop with her. It's a
Speaker 1: really really good scene. As their scenes are always just
Speaker 1: so fantastic, but they didn't even mention that in our
Speaker 1: Little Story Brokedown, which is funny. It's such a great scene.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it too, And I love when the
Speaker 2: couple walks by and.
Speaker 1: They date and she's like, I hate them. It's so
Speaker 1: cute and so good. The writing is so great and
Speaker 1: it's so good because also I think they made me
Speaker 1: laugh out loud and I can't remember what they said
Speaker 1: they made me laugh out loud, but something. It was
Speaker 1: just a really great scene. I think that it would
Speaker 1: be so interesting. I don't know who has time to
Speaker 1: do this, but if someone has time to take like
Speaker 1: maybe one scene from each season of Miranda and just
Speaker 1: string them together, just the two of them scenes, right,
Speaker 1: Like remember way back early when we think Carrie is
Speaker 1: going to see Big she called someone in the phone booth,
Speaker 1: but it's Miranda sitting there so adorable, you know, and
Speaker 1: Miranda is always so direct with her, Like I love
Speaker 1: the scene. I was talking to Sin the other day
Speaker 1: and she said, oh, have you seen the part where
Speaker 1: we go shoe shopping? And I tell her, you know,
Speaker 1: why shouldn't have any money? And I'm like, yes, it's
Speaker 1: so great that scene. It's so great. Like there's just
Speaker 1: things that I didn't remember that stand out to me. Now,
Speaker 1: are you watching it where the through line of them
Speaker 1: is just excellent, excellent, excellent. Yeah, it would be really
Speaker 1: fun to see, especially if you took them from the
Speaker 1: beginning of the show through the movies through and just
Speaker 1: like that. Yes, that would be fun.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: We should do it.
Speaker 2: I think we can do that.
Speaker 1: That would be a special episode. We could. We could
Speaker 1: just look at them, I know, but then like how
Speaker 1: would we really we should show the people. I don't
Speaker 1: know how to do that, Okay, we'll figure out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting because I just think the
Speaker 1: writing is just so wonderful when it's the two of them,
Speaker 1: because of their differences but also their love, but also
Speaker 1: the way their wit, you know, each one's sense of
Speaker 1: humor plays against each other. It's very interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so good fun to watch.
Speaker 1: I agree, so good to watch. So it's nice by
Speaker 1: the end because basically Charlotte has had this little emotional
Speaker 1: thing but also done her best to be a good
Speaker 1: friend to Miranda. Miranda then comes and tries to be
Speaker 1: her best friend to Charlotte, and it's very sweet to
Speaker 1: her and basically says, I can do this without you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's adorable, so adorable. So I loved that whole storyline.
Speaker 1: Didn't remember one little bit of it. I really really
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. So that was good. And then, oh my god,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Samantha because James remar Wow, he's so good,
Speaker 1: so good, the fact that you even like him at all,
Speaker 1: and some of the things he does in this episode.
Speaker 1: He wants to have a threesome for his birthday with
Speaker 1: this beautiful blonde hostess girl from this restaurant, and that
Speaker 1: is just fundamentally such an inch thing.
Speaker 2: It's such anch's such an inch thing.
Speaker 1: And somehow he says it was such charm. Yeah, do
Speaker 1: to mean such charm. And then poor Samantha, who really
Speaker 1: would like to just be, you know, in a serious
Speaker 1: relationship with him, but it's scared to say it. We
Speaker 1: know from these past episodes where she said she loved
Speaker 1: him on ecstasy and then she was like, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: I said that, and he's like, that's okay, you're in ecstasy.
Speaker 1: But then she really does want to say it is
Speaker 1: so sweet. And then she's trying to get him to
Speaker 1: say what he wants for his birthday and he's like nothing, nothing, nothing,
Speaker 1: and then this flirtatious hostess comes and he's like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, now I know what I want. And so
Speaker 1: Samantha has to play it off like oh, yes, of course, sure,
Speaker 1: that's fine with me. You know, she has her whole
Speaker 1: Samantha thing. And then I didn't remember this either. I
Speaker 1: was like, what's gonna happen? I don't remember this? How
Speaker 1: could I not remember this? So this girl shows up,
Speaker 1: and you know, I like what they do and that
Speaker 1: they really twist it, like Samantha's gonna like take charge
Speaker 1: and tell her like no kissing Richard on the lips,
Speaker 1: I own his lips. And the girl is like okay,
Speaker 1: and then the girl takes her top down and Samantha
Speaker 1: takes her top down. You know, it's like one upmanship
Speaker 1: or whatever. And then luckily when we get to the
Speaker 1: sex part of it all or whatever. This girl calls
Speaker 1: Richard daddy, which is so gross, Okay, fundamentally gross, and
Speaker 1: luckily both Samantha and Richard are gross out by it,
Speaker 1: thank God in Heaven. And then he's like, get rid
Speaker 1: of her, and then she pushes her off the bed
Speaker 1: for the second time. All very very enjoyable, very very
Speaker 1: very enjoyable. I really liked it.
Speaker 2: There's a lot not to like about Richard, but I
Speaker 2: did enjoy this, and like when he says I want
Speaker 2: the threesome for my birthday, I was like, oh, great,
Speaker 2: Like you know that this is like such a thing.
Speaker 2: But seeing how he reacted to being called daddy was enjoyable.
Speaker 1: Thank god, right, thank god. You don't know, you don't
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay's gonna be into this totally, but
Speaker 2: that would have been horrible.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, but also it really makes me like Samantha.
Speaker 1: I like the way she is in the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, I had written down, is this the only time
Speaker 2: in history having a threesome help domain commit.
Speaker 1: A good point at the end of the relationship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a really nice ending, isn't it. I mean, because
Speaker 1: we know that's what Samantha wants, right, I mean it's
Speaker 1: not it's not. I didn't feel like as an audience, like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're going to work out. I didn't feel that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I want Samantha to get what she wants, yes,
Speaker 1: which is him or whatever, and also not to have
Speaker 1: to play these stupid games like that must be relief.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But he's very very likable that he could even do
Speaker 1: any of this stuff and have us like him at all,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's what I thought. And
Speaker 1: then he's just very sweet with her, like he's very
Speaker 1: simple with her. You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's good. He's very very good.
Speaker 1: What did we not cover?
Speaker 2: We should talk a little bit more about Carrie and
Speaker 2: Julian and what happens to them.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love that out. Yeah yeah, let's go
Speaker 1: back to carry. Carrie's got a very big storyline. It's
Speaker 1: super fascinating.
Speaker 2: Yes, Carrie gets drunk at the Vogue office after being
Speaker 2: supplied with Martiniz from Julian.
Speaker 1: It's true. I thought it was a bit of a stretch, that,
Speaker 1: you know, And I mean, I hope this doesn't sound
Speaker 1: really mean, but I do know Candae, right, So I
Speaker 1: do feel like this might be based on something real.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, that's what went through my mind. But I
Speaker 1: also do know Sarah Jusica, right, so it's also just
Speaker 1: kind of it's like hard to understand exactly, Like she
Speaker 1: she has two martinis or whatever, and he does at
Speaker 1: one point say like, how could you be drunk? Off
Speaker 1: to Martinez and she says, I didn't eat breakfast and
Speaker 1: MSIs too, which is only somewhat true. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: she's a zero, but okay, and you know, and obviously
Speaker 1: she's saying she's a lightweight, which also kind of doesn't
Speaker 1: track with Carrie who's always drinking cosmos. It's like it's interesting,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I think that the
Speaker 1: I get the idea that, like she's she's there, it's
Speaker 1: a formal setting. She's used to just doing whatever she
Speaker 1: wants in her life, right, because she works from home.
Speaker 1: She you know, writes and smokes and drinks and chats
Speaker 1: and wonders around her apartment, right, So I get that
Speaker 1: this is like a formal setting where she might mess
Speaker 1: up whatever and then be really worried about it. That
Speaker 1: part I kind of get, but it just seemed a
Speaker 1: little hard like the the level of which Carrie is
Speaker 1: supposed to be drunk, you know what I mean. It
Speaker 1: was a little like whoa, okay, wow. But she's funny.
Speaker 1: She's really funny doing it.
Speaker 2: It is very funny. But she's also kind of like,
Speaker 2: you know, she's like hiccupping.
Speaker 1: She's hiccupping exactly. She's got she's got like when she
Speaker 1: does her big like you know, arms and whatever. She's
Speaker 1: so adorable. She's so funny when she does like bigger things.
Speaker 1: I always really enjoy that.
Speaker 2: And you brought this up before we started recording, but
Speaker 2: we should point out that Sariah Jesca played Ron Rifkins's
Speaker 2: daughter in the off Broadway production of the Substance of Fires.
Speaker 1: Oh my God, which I saw I forgot. It's by
Speaker 1: John Robin Bates. Oh my god, you guys, do you
Speaker 1: realize who John Robin Bates is? Because he is a trip.
Speaker 1: He's a lovely guy. He wrote The Substance of Fire,
Speaker 1: which was a big hit. Oh yes, that's right, and
Speaker 1: then he wrote Brothers and Sisters.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Rob Loo was in it, Sally Field was in it,
Speaker 1: Matthew Reese was in it. Calista Flockhard was in it couple,
Speaker 1: but like amazing, right then now he's writing All's fair? Wow, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, what a trippy, trippy development of all of it.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, And I think he wrote something
Speaker 1: that maybe John Benjamin Hickey is going to direct on Broadway.
Speaker 1: So some there's some other things happening. I saw his
Speaker 1: name somewhere and I was like, oh, it all comes together.
Speaker 1: But yes, that's right. It was a substance of fire,
Speaker 1: which was great. Yes, and Ron Rivkin plays Sarah's dad
Speaker 1: in that not only what Oh my god, so.
Speaker 2: Eleven years before this episode aired. Wow, And you know
Speaker 2: there's that through line of this episode of Richard not
Speaker 2: being life stream called Daddy, Carrie talks about her father issues.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, thank you for bringing that up. Okay,
Speaker 1: someone who came on it might have been Sam and Curtis.
Speaker 1: I at one point had said something about Michael Patrick
Speaker 1: saying that he didn't want to have the backstory of
Speaker 1: all of our family situations right, that he felt very
Speaker 1: strongly right, which is of course really true. And he
Speaker 1: had talked about one time that Carrie had opened her
Speaker 1: drawer and there had been a picture of her father,
Speaker 1: and then then she closed it, and they had cut
Speaker 1: that out, I believe, or something something or maybe there
Speaker 1: was supposed to be another reference to it or a
Speaker 1: conversation about it or something like that. But this whole
Speaker 1: episode it shows up all of a sudden, and it's
Speaker 1: so good because basically Ron Rifkins's character, who does seem
Speaker 1: very fatherly at first, right, he says something to her like,
Speaker 1: what's your situation with your father? And she was like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, what did your father think of the article?
Speaker 1: That's what he says, and she goes, well, I don't
Speaker 1: really know because he left us a long time ago.
Speaker 1: And he goes, oh, well, how did you feel? And
Speaker 1: she was like, well, I don't know. I was five.
Speaker 1: And he goes, well, don't you think you have some
Speaker 1: unsolvedaddy issues or something like that, and she was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, oh brother, you know whatever. Yeah, and he's like, sorry,
Speaker 1: I've been in an analysis for a long time. And
Speaker 1: then later on it comes back up and she's writing
Speaker 1: in her column basically something do we have it in
Speaker 1: our notes? Basically something to the effect of is it
Speaker 1: She asked, Miranda, I think isn't that simple that? Because
Speaker 1: I didn't have a great relationship with my father that
Speaker 1: I'm never going to understand men, and yeah, Miranda says, well,
Speaker 1: my dad was home every night for dinner and I
Speaker 1: don't understand men. And then she says something like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's a crap shoot. And Miranda's like, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a crap shoot. And I was like, that is so
Speaker 1: well put. Yes, it's so good. It's so good. But
Speaker 1: I love that she even went there and I had
Speaker 1: fully one hundred percent forgotten. And then we do see
Speaker 1: a picture of her little self and her dad, which
Speaker 1: I have to go back and look. I think it's
Speaker 1: Sir Jessica and her dad.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I wrote this down. I had a question
Speaker 2: about this because when in movies and TV shows, when
Speaker 2: they show an old picture of an actor, it's clearly
Speaker 2: a picture of them as a child. I love when
Speaker 2: that happens. Like you said, I think this is I
Speaker 2: was wondering if that was that serious.
Speaker 1: I need to go back and look. I think it
Speaker 1: was Sir Jessica's dad and her He was he was
Speaker 1: a he was kind of a big guy, and uh,
Speaker 1: that's what it looked like. The picture was very CPA
Speaker 1: like seventies looking, so I would have to go back
Speaker 1: and check. I could actually ask her. Often what they do,
Speaker 1: and you can sometimes tell, is that they would get
Speaker 1: a you. They would ask you to bring your baby
Speaker 1: pictures in. Then let's say that your dad is being
Speaker 1: played by an actor who's there. They get old pictures
Speaker 1: of them in and they photoshop, you know, they edit
Speaker 1: them together.
Speaker 2: I was going to ask if that's ever happened.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh for sure, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean just this job I just did, there's many a
Speaker 1: flashback and whatnot, and uh, they created a bunch of pictures.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say anymore because I'm not supposed
Speaker 1: to weird, but that's what Disney wants, so that's what
Speaker 1: I will do. But yeah, they they Sometimes what they'll
Speaker 1: do is they'll have you come in and take pictures
Speaker 1: and then try to work on them to make them
Speaker 1: look up the era interesting, right, and then but oftentimes
Speaker 1: they'll like, I'm trying to think, you know, because when
Speaker 1: we did the movies, I had a little toddler aged Lily, right,
Speaker 1: I think we got though it was twins, and I
Speaker 1: think we got their baby pictures and then cut one
Speaker 1: out right and then put younger Charlotte and younger, Harry,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying to say, because we missed
Speaker 1: the baby years.
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, I think that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they do. There's some magic you know, in
Speaker 1: the you know, photo department.
Speaker 2: Basically it must be so, I mean, being an actor's
Speaker 2: so any bizarre things that happen to you, But like
Speaker 2: this so weird to see like a picture of you
Speaker 2: from high school that you have personal memories too, and
Speaker 2: then just see it next to like Rob Low from
Speaker 2: high school. You know, like that's true, that's strange.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't give them. I mean, this is where
Speaker 1: it gets very difficult, is that you like, I don't
Speaker 1: give them Maybe I used to in my beginning of
Speaker 1: my career. I don't give them ones that are really
Speaker 1: recognizable or whatever. I try to give them more like
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't give them. Oh I feel like I
Speaker 1: have given people my high school graduation picture, but I
Speaker 1: wouldn't give them like, oh, maybe I have. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: of this now, what other pictures would I give them
Speaker 1: if they if they ask you for high school pictures,
Speaker 1: you don't have that many like formal high school pictures, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: have like the prom you know whatever?
Speaker 2: Have?
Speaker 1: Right? I probably have. That's weird. Oh, that is weird.
Speaker 1: It's funny because when you're in the middle of production
Speaker 1: or starting or whatever. Right you're in the middle of prep,
Speaker 1: You're just like, oh, I'm giving them whenever they want.
Speaker 1: They're asking for these things. But I also feel now
Speaker 1: that we're in this weird digital age where they can
Speaker 1: find them, you know what I mean, it's strange. I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's all very strange. And then if you
Speaker 1: think about all the things, sometimes I get very freaked
Speaker 1: out by the AI things that they do to the
Speaker 1: four of us, Like there's this whole baby thing. Did
Speaker 1: you see the baby thing? The people that we knew
Speaker 1: reposted them like Molly reposted it. I was like, I
Speaker 1: am not going to post us as babies AI babies.
Speaker 1: That is weird.
Speaker 2: It's I'm not a fan of AI. I just like
Speaker 2: I hate meaning. Yeah, but sometimes I see those videos
Speaker 2: where it's like it'll be an actor now themselves. It
Speaker 2: just looks like in the eyes and it's just like, I.
Speaker 1: Know, I know, I know. And I also I don't
Speaker 1: want to see myself hugging my young self. That's egg people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like, who wants this?
Speaker 1: It's so no one, no one. This is what I
Speaker 1: do think, though, there was this trend that I believe
Speaker 1: my girls who helped me with my social media did
Speaker 1: do a video of me in the nineties. What were
Speaker 1: you like as the ninety in the nineties mom or whatever? Right?
Speaker 1: Is that right? And we did, We actually did one
Speaker 1: and it got a lot of play and adorable. Sissa
Speaker 1: texted on my you know, on my comments, said that
Speaker 1: she didn't know why she was crying. That she thought
Speaker 1: it was the passage of time, you know, because Sissa's
Speaker 1: really deep, and I was like, I love you so much, Sis,
Speaker 1: so you know, so sweet. But she said anyone that
Speaker 1: was at the beginning of the trend, anyone who was
Speaker 1: posting those it would make her cry. Well. Then I
Speaker 1: look at I'm like, oh my god, Sarah, Jessica did
Speaker 1: what And then I realized, no, Sir, Jessica did not
Speaker 1: do one. Sir Jessica does not do these things. TTY
Speaker 1: mean someone else did it, but that's not cool. And
Speaker 1: then you don't even know for sure if it's real.
Speaker 1: Tudy mean, I mean, I know the part she's done right,
Speaker 1: and I recognize them, but like, there were questionable things
Speaker 1: in there. And then I saw this weird, weird Rachel
Speaker 1: White's one. She's not even on social media and she's walking.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I don't know if that's Ai Rachel Weiss, Like,
Speaker 1: what is it? It's not good, it's not good. We
Speaker 1: need to do whatever there is. There's some bill out
Speaker 1: there in the in the law world, the world of
Speaker 1: laws about no fakes, Like, we need to pass that
Speaker 1: because if they can do it to us and it's
Speaker 1: funny and fun, that doesn't really mean that it's going
Speaker 1: to be funny and fun when they're doing it to everybody.
Speaker 1: You know, it's freaking me out. I know, it's just bad.
Speaker 1: It's bad. All right. That was funny. So thank you
Speaker 1: and it was such a great episode. Thanks for being back.
Speaker 1: We love you. Anytime you want to come.
Speaker 2: I'm always ideally, I'm always here.
Speaker 1: Ideally, you're always here. I know you're really needed by
Speaker 1: the Jonas brothers, and that's fine.
Speaker 2: Love me so much.
Speaker 1: Sure they do. We love you because you're really great
Speaker 1: at your job, and you're really smart and personal and
Speaker 1: you can be behind the scenes or in front. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's great, you know.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Kristin. I'll be clipping that putting it on
Speaker 2: my playlist and listening to that later.
Speaker 1: Thank you. That's fine, you can do that. Thank you.