1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. What's Up. 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: It's June and that means it's Black Music. 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: Month, and every year on Questlove Supreme and now The 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: Quest Love Show, we honor it by bringing you an 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: episode every day that celebrates black music, it's history and 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: its impact. My team and I have selected episodes from 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: our archive that we feel are specially. 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Relevant to the celebration, offering history, insight a little fun 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: along the way. 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: So be on the lookout for four brand new episodes 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: throughout June, each connected to the past, president future of 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: Black music. We're going to highlight trailblazers, innovators, ultra conduits, 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: and revolutionaries whose word continues to shape. 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: The world around us. Happy June, Happy Black Music Month. 15 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: Put him right now for a moment in his room, 16 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: Give him a treat, and put him in his room. 17 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 3: Little ship, you got me by the nose, Mossy fucking 18 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: scared of me. This nigga don't know because he's so pretty. 19 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: Motherfucker already told is going. I'm not gonna cut. 20 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: I'll be no curse. We super were here for. 21 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: Let's get in it, ladies and gentlemen of qus Ology. 22 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: Okay, Based on that. 23 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: Energy, people warned that this episode just my top Thejesus 24 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: Mirror episode as the most realist, most problematic, the most 25 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: realist in QULS history. 26 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: And I'm here for it. I'm manifesting it again. 27 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: This quest a lot of supreme your your paradise of 28 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: sometimes awesome and occasionally useless information or edumacation. Are our 29 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: two brethren unpaid Bill and and. 30 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Sugar Steve are? 31 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: I guess you could say they're holding down their illustrious 32 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: careers right now so they won't be joining us. Uh. 33 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: So this is filing to be a pow wow with Hello, Laya, 34 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: how you doing? You're a right now? 35 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: I was waiting for you to say, with the blacks. 36 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: Come on now be the ojs. We're a trio today 37 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: we are what a trio? 38 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: With that said, ladies and gentlemen, I will say that 39 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: our illustrious guest is indeed okay. So since the title 40 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: is somewhat self proclaimed, uh it was the title of 41 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: her first memoir, which was The Mother Black Hollywood. I 42 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: would like to say that probably that title for her 43 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: might be somewhat reductive, because I feel that she's more 44 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: than just the Mother Black Hollywood. You know, for a 45 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: woman or a human of her stature. And I don't 46 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: believe in numbers sometimes, especially when like he is trying 47 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: to remind me how old I am. But I will 48 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: say that for over four decades, our guest has been 49 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: going strong in ways that you know, her contemporaries can't 50 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: even compete with. 51 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: And I will say that she is. 52 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: She is conquered and taken every medium by storm. I'm 53 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: gonna I had to write them all down, so let's 54 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: go with it. 55 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: You'd be pro musical. 56 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy nine, pre Broadway dream Girls, where she 57 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: was the title of fie wright Bette Midler's background singers 58 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: were called Harlett's Right, So yes, she has a harlot 59 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: in Bette Midler's show. 60 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: She's landed many a scene stealing moment. 61 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: And practically every show that she's ever be a TV 62 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: or movies name him Murphy Brown, Dream One, I Love 63 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: Dream One. 64 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite shows. 65 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: Living Color Rock, Hang with Missus Cooper, A Different World. 66 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: She's on Helen on Fresh Prince of bel Air. She 67 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 2: was deemed Davenport on Different World, Tina Turner's Mom and 68 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: What Love Got to Do With It? 69 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: Yo. She was even in Friends. I didn't know that. 70 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: Black people, right, I didn't even know that black people 71 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: were in Friends, Lucky's Mom and Poetic Justice. 72 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: Yo. 73 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: The way she tells him to shut the fuck up 74 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: in Poetic Justice is my favorite. That is my favorite 75 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: use of shut the fuck up I ever heard anyway. 76 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: Name it, Death Presidents, Girl Six, The Preacher's Wife, The Temptations, Castaway, Strong. 77 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: Medicine, Pixar's Cars. 78 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: She was Tony's Mom and Girlfriends Family Reunion, Right, Pethan 79 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 2: Brown's You Want a Man and That's O, Raven Boston, 80 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: Legal Princess and the Frog Think Like a Man, Baggot's 81 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: claim a gazillion animated voice over. 82 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: Yo. She even Erica's mom in the On and On video. 83 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: She's so bad, yes, And I'm wearing my bother you 84 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: shirt right now as we speak. 85 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: Yo. 86 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: She was even in this this unknown local syndicated production 87 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: of some show called Blackish. 88 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: You guys might have heard of it. 89 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 2: She has written two very informative books on her life. 90 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: She's the reason why I believe in audiobooks. Before. 91 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: I'm not saying I was one of those snobs that 92 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: was like, you know, you know those people are like, oh, 93 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: the book is better. You know, you see the movie 94 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, the book is better. And then 95 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: there are people that book shamy because I don't have 96 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: a tangible thing to read, and they're like, well, you're 97 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: not reading the book. 98 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: Yoused to listen to audio. 99 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: But no, during the pandemic, I've read like seventy books more. 100 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: I'm more edgu macated than I've ever been. Ladies and gentlemen, 101 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: this this introduction has been ten minutes long. 102 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 4: Please welcome, and we still haven't finished with her discography. 103 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it's just too much. The name even Disney 104 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: rides with her voice in it. Please welcome to Quest 105 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: of Supreme. Jennifer Lewis, Thank you for coming. 106 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 3: Hello, Welcome. Yes, it's great to be here. It's great 107 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: to be here, Scot. I'm loving all of these conversations 108 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: about the book and my career. Might as well get 109 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: it out of the way. I received I just received 110 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 3: my star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. 111 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: Yes you did. 112 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 3: I am still flying high from it. Right before the 113 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: Hollywood Walk of Fame, I went on one of my 114 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: trips around the world. I went to ang called Watt 115 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: in Cambodia. I took a helicopter through the Himalayan Mountain 116 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 3: range and set my eyes on Mount Everest. I'm trying 117 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 3: to say that without crying. What was that experience like, Well, 118 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: let me give you this story. 119 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: Hit me. 120 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: It was one of the most beautiful moments of the trip. 121 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: The captain of it. It's a private jet, A have 122 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: a Crombie and Kent. It does these trips around the world. 123 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: And because I only get so much time free, I 124 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: have to get on a jet like that, you know, 125 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: and go and do as much as I can. I'm 126 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: trying to see the entire world before my knees give out. 127 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: I don't want to go to mach Peach you and say, oh, 128 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: the incors were up there. No, bitch, I'm climbing this motherfucker. 129 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: You climb it. 130 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 3: I just she wouldn't. No. I climbed Anchor watches now 131 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 3: and I had this little Jordaanian boy take me up. 132 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: Petra in Jordan's the Heels of Moses. Most beautiful thing 133 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: I've ever seen in my life, you understand me. I 134 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: have seen the cultural treasures of this world. The Grand 135 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: Mosque in Abu Dhabi. I just took a. I just 136 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: played camel polo in Dubai and took a helicopter over 137 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: all those islands, the palm trees and the crowns, and 138 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: I also, this is what happened. The captain of the 139 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: pilot said, ladies and gentlemen, if you'll look off to 140 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: the right of the plane, I believe I see the 141 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: peaks of the Himalayan mountain range and there was there 142 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: was Everest sitting above the Cumulonimbus clouds. And I said, 143 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: as I was filming outside of the plane, I just 144 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: was saying to myself. There was a yoga teacher right 145 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: next to me, one of the passengers, and she overheard 146 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: me say, dear God, I've wanted to climb to the 147 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 3: top of that mountain since I was thirteen years old. 148 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: And she looked at me and said, look at you. 149 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: Now you're above it. Shit, God, damn I And when 150 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: I saw it with my own eyes, you know, they 151 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: put the helicopter down at eleven thousand feet and we 152 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: only have seven minutes to take pictures of Everest and 153 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: that whole world, of the base camp at the base 154 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 3: of Everest. It was unbelievable. It was it was stunning, 155 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: it was majesty. It was God itself. You understand me, 156 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: a little colored girl from Kenlock, Missouri who ate dirt 157 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 3: at a little girl and set a little booty on 158 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 3: our wooden hall to shit in nineteen below zero in 159 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 3: Saint Louis, Missouri. We went on to India, Catman Do 160 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: and I still in front of the taj Mahal. It 161 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 3: was an unbelievable trip. And then to come back to 162 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: the United States and become a part of a cultural 163 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: treasure in Hollywood. It's been a ride, ladies and gentlemen. 164 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: And let me tell you, I walk around in a 165 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: state of Greece. I never gave one hundred percent, y'all. 166 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 3: I gave two thousand because I didn't know how not to. 167 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: I was born with this charisma and this gift, and 168 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: I have tried to honor it all my life. It's 169 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 3: been a hell of a ride with my bipolar disorder, 170 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 3: but I contained it. I stayed. As I said in 171 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 3: the ceremony accepting the star. It was not the work 172 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 3: I did on camera and on stage that has put 173 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: this broad smile on my face that defines my success. 174 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: It was the work God did off It was the 175 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: journaling it was the therapy. It was after five years 176 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: agreeing to get on medication. I don't want to have 177 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: a push medication, but I take it. And when I 178 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: talk like this, I tell everybody this ain't the truth. 179 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: This is my truth, This is my story, this is 180 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 3: my song. So if you ask me, I'm gonna tell 181 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 3: you this is how I did it. Ha ha, And look 182 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 3: at me. Now I did it. 183 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: This is already the greatest episode of in the five 184 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: year history. 185 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 4: So when you were talking about medication with your bipolar disorder, 186 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 4: what led to the decision to get on it after 187 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 4: years of not being on what? 188 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: How did you make that decision? 189 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. Human beings changed for two reasons, 190 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: and two reasons only because we are habitual creatures. One 191 00:11:54,960 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 3: is a deadly disease. Two, you just got to get tired, 192 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 3: sick and tire of being sick and tired. It wears 193 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: you out right, It will wear you out to continue 194 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 3: a habit over and over and over again. And see, 195 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: I had a sex addiction, and little girl, there's only 196 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: so much sex you can have, for God's sake. But 197 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: here's the thing about the medication. It took my therapist 198 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: five years for me to come to that decision, because 199 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 3: I thought it would take my edge. I told her, 200 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 3: I said, he look, I'm Jennifer motherfucking Lewis, bitch. I 201 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: don't even know goddamn medication. Ain't nothing wrong with me? Well, 202 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: missus Lewis, Yes, there was something wrong. I was not happy. 203 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 3: The mania of bipolar disorder is dangerous. You understand, you 204 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: do dumb shit like speed in a car, and you're 205 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: not thinking that you could hit a whole van full 206 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: of children. Come on, now, I don't do roll rage 207 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 3: no more. Because a friend of mine said to me 208 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: once when I flipped somebody out, I flipped somebody off 209 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 3: when I was younger. My friend turned to me, Jennifer 210 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: and said, Jennifer, oh, what if that person's mother just 211 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: died and they just heard about it, and you you 212 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 3: telling them to go fuck themselves? What's wrong with you? 213 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 3: I never now, baby, I let people go. Somebody's got 214 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 3: to say something to stop you from ruining your life. 215 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: And I say to everybody, with seven point six billion 216 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 3: people on this planet, you've got to ask for help. 217 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 3: Somebody's there, don't you dare spending your life in those 218 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: dark rooms like I did? You wake your ass up. 219 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 3: Sometimes when I wake up, I have to pull on 220 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: sojourn a skirt. Sometimes I have to say, Harry, where 221 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: are you at? Sometimes I have to pull up Mandela's 222 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: photograph to remind myself of how fragile his shoulders were 223 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: and that I'm standing on him. You don't go to 224 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 3: South Africa and go over to that island and see 225 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 3: that cell huh, and not walk out of there and 226 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: come home and say I, Oh, you don't get to 227 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 3: do You gotta give back, Jenny. You got to tell 228 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: the world what you've seen, don't you dare? We are 229 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 3: as sick as our secrets, So don't keep noting. God 230 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 3: damn it. You tell somebody I don't care what it is. 231 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: And if they don't listen, to go tell somebody else. 232 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: Go ahead. 233 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 4: The other question, great question I had in regards to 234 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 4: you talking about your sex addictions. How did you determine 235 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 4: what was the line of location between Okay, I'm a 236 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 4: person who enjoyed sex versus okay, this is an addiction. 237 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: J'ah when you start picking up men. I was so 238 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: bold in my ship, and I was so well I 239 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 3: know I still am, but I was knocking honey, I 240 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: was a brick house. Some motherfucker couldn't touch me. In 241 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: my twenties, I was so pretty. I got to take it. 242 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: But I had got have skin like a baby's ass, 243 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: and I was honey. I was at the top of 244 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: my game. I was on Broadway. I'm largeout, I had 245 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: that thin ass waistline. I still got it, but I 246 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: needed to come down from those Broadway shows. When you 247 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 3: can get a standing ovation, you think you you think 248 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: somebody wants it to end. No, so I went and 249 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: did another show in my bedroom. You see with more adoration. 250 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 3: Let me yes, and let me tell you something. You 251 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: get tired, You get tired. I didn't think about because 252 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: of the mania. I wasn't thinking of the dangers of 253 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 3: that taking a strange man to your house. I don't 254 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: know if y'all might be too young to remember mister Goodbar, 255 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 3: the movie with Diane Keith, It's too much Wait. 256 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: When we first got cable, my parents whenever that was like, 257 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: go to your room and me, I'm like, what is 258 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: this a good part? 259 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: Something is like, yeah, well it was dangerous. And let 260 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 3: me tell y'all something. I never thought I'd run around 261 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: quoting the Constitution. M but I undersand this, and it 262 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: is my motto. We all have a right to the 263 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 3: pursuit of happiness. I wanted to be happy. I was 264 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: depressed for many years and didn't even know it. They 265 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: didn't happen. Words like bipolar shit. I went on opera 266 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: long time ago, told them sixty million people out my pole. 267 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 3: I lie, I'm tripole in these streets. Okay, new shit, 268 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 3: tripoll the new shit. There's another poll over there. But listen, 269 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 3: you have to be in it to win it. I 270 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 3: gave up many times in my career, but I didn't quit, 271 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 3: you hear me, I didn't quit. Yeah, I tell these kids, 272 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 3: you must dream the dream and focus only on that 273 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 3: so that you can be well with your soul. 274 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: You know what. 275 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 2: I'm gled you said that because okay, so I too 276 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: was trying to figure out And here's you know. The 277 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 2: disclosure is, yes, I mean I've been in and out of. 278 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: Not in and out of. 279 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: I mean I've you know, I've had a therapist. I 280 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: guess you can say in and out. I've been doing 281 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: therapy for like thirty years. But you know the thing is, 282 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: when the pandemic came really you know again, like I don't. 283 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 2: I feel like a person shouldn't have to be at 284 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 2: rock bottom to make the change. So that's why I'm 285 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: really glad the pandemic happened because it wasn't a rock 286 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: bottom moment. But that was definitely somewhat of a paradigm 287 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 2: shift for me and taken mental health seriously and all 288 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 2: those things. But you mentioned something, and I noticed that 289 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: probably the time that I might be liable to get 290 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: in an argument. I mean, not a fight, not like 291 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 2: pugilism or anything. But there's a moment after I get 292 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 2: off stage where I can't describe the feeling and you 293 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: you said that, and I was like, oh, so I'm 294 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 2: not I've you know, I just thought like, well, me're 295 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: Sometimes you're just an asshole. After the thirty minutes after 296 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 2: roots show, it's almost like after a root show, I 297 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: purposely look for a place to just sit silent and 298 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: literally come down. 299 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:06,959 Speaker 1: And I can't explain it. 300 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: And the thing is is like right after a show, 301 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: that's when people were pulling for you and a mair, 302 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: let's talk to rite and I can't explain. And the 303 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 2: thing is, it's like, because these people aren't entertainers, it's 304 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: hard to really explain to them the process I go through, 305 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 2: which is kind of why. It's almost like an a that 306 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: feeling of when you're done a show, and that how 307 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 2: you feel is such a description less addiction that I 308 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 2: can't describe that. I figured out that for the at 309 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 2: least the last thirty years, I've been doing DJ gigs 310 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: after the Root show because I love music and because 311 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: I love DJ, but basically I need to slowly come 312 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 2: down off that high normalcy. So usually after Roots show, 313 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 2: I will DJ for three hours so that way I 314 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: don't have to talk to people. I'm playing music and 315 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: I come down. But and sometimes when I'm not DJing, 316 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: I wonder what that is, And I thought I was 317 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 2: the only person going through that, because again, if you, 318 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: I feel weird in talking about the mental health space 319 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: thing and have my occupation because I always feel like 320 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: people look at me like, eh, here's the world Stiny's violin, 321 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: Like if people are in a certain profession, they might 322 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: not they might feel unworthy of having problems or whatnot. 323 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: Like people might not at. 324 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 5: This point, the world knows entertainers have trauma. Right, I'm 325 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 5: just let me interject here, yeah, yes, please please, Yeah. 326 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: First of all, we are not normal creatures. Yeah right, 327 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: we are artists. We are different, Are we better? Are 328 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 3: worse than anyone? No, we just are who we are 329 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: and we form who we form the artistry. It's like 330 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: Lena Simone said, an artist's duty is to speak to 331 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 3: the times. Need A Simon didn't hide her pain and 332 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 3: need A Simone laid it on the piano. We have 333 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: to learn where to put that quest. You have to 334 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 3: put that somewhere. You have to compartmentalize that you expressed 335 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: it beautifully. It's called a glory train. Love you hear 336 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 3: me talking to you. It's a glory train. And nobody 337 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 3: can stay on that train too long. You got to 338 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 3: come off. You got to get in the grass, and 339 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 3: you got to surround yourself with nature and have that gratitude. 340 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 3: It is a gratitude moment, so use it for that. 341 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 3: You don't have to go crazy. Most people go and 342 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 3: get drunk and party and carry on. Okay, you get 343 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 3: a couple of those a month, but then sit the 344 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:13,479 Speaker 3: fuck down and talk about those feelings. Write them down 345 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 3: so that the next time you feel it you have 346 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 3: something to balance it. Nobody's coming with the answer, nobody's 347 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 3: coming with the recipe. You got to pay attention to 348 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: the self. It is the journey within that will get 349 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 3: you where you need to be because what you will discover, 350 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 3: HM is how short life is. Listen to me, you. 351 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: Want to know how? 352 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 3: You want to know how I live? I live like 353 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 3: I got five minutes left? What if? What if you 354 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: add fo fge minutes left? Who would you call? H? 355 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: Think about that? Shit? What it? And I live like that. 356 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie to you. Sometimes it's something as 357 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 3: as like when my assistant leaves, I want to swim, 358 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 3: but the shadows have come over the pool, so it 359 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 3: gets a little chill, and I stand there and go, oh, 360 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 3: I don't want to get in this pool. Jenny, get 361 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 3: in the fucking pool and relax yourself. You gotta talk 362 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: to yourself. But guess why I got in the pool 363 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 3: because when I woke up, I wrote it down. You 364 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 3: will swim today, you got That's what living on purpose 365 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 3: is about. You can't go Will and Nelly through this, bitch. 366 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 3: It'll teach you a lot. This is why that you 367 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: are in charge. Write the ship down. You write your 368 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 3: story instead of like I said, going Willy Nelly, skipping, 369 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 3: temptoeing through the fucking tulips. That's what look. Life is 370 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: not a rehearsal. Live this, bitch. 371 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 5: Can I just say real quick, excuse me, let me, 372 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 5: let me just say this. And I hate to be 373 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 5: all corny and go to the book that you have 374 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 5: out the Walking in Your Joy? But I just realize, 375 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 5: am I saying that right? 376 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 3: Walking in your joy? Yes, that's walking in my joy 377 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: and my joy? 378 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 5: But it's so interesting because a lot of people write 379 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,719 Speaker 5: books and they say things, but I like that you 380 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 5: have some real practical things, like what you just said 381 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 5: to a mirror about living in those five minutes. And 382 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 5: then you wrote something else that caught me and you said, 383 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 5: when you're feeling down, you come up with a song 384 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 5: about your how much you love yourself and how much 385 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 5: people love you. 386 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 3: That's I'm realizing. 387 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 5: Although I haven't finished the book, can people like depend that? 388 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 5: Like you pretty much got little workable jewels in here? 389 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 5: Not just like girl, live your best life. It's actually 390 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 5: like no, exactly exactly, but here's the work. 391 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: Work is how am I gonna live my best life? Right? 392 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 3: And that? And that's the work. That's what you write 393 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 3: down in the morning, y'alls. I don't know if you know. 394 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 3: But when I wrote The Mother Black Hollywood, I started 395 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 3: writing in a journal in the seventh grade. No I 396 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 3: because I knew I was gonna be a star and 397 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: I would need my book. That's seventh grade continuously, I 398 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 3: am sixty five. There are sixty seven journals of Oh 399 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 3: I'm so jealous. That is why don't we do this matter? 400 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 3: Why don't we start? And stop? And I got about 401 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 3: six damn it so good detail she saw. The Black 402 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: Hollywood is so good because of the details. I can 403 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 3: tell you that I had hot apple pie with your 404 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 3: only Ralph on this it's dated. Damn you see, you see, 405 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 3: you see, so nothing is wasted. Live your life. And 406 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 3: when I got into therapy the first time, my therapist 407 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: looked at me when I told I'd written all those journals, 408 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 3: she said, that's what saved your life, little girl. I 409 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 3: believe it. I didn't know I was saving my life. Yeah, 410 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 3: but that journal served in me learning at an early age. 411 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 3: I didn't even know I was doing it. To be 412 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 3: in charge of me and leave other people alone, Jill. 413 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 3: People come and go for a season, let it go 414 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 3: when they're no longer of reflection of you. You're not 415 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 3: gonna be comfortable around them. If the toxic shit is 416 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 3: going on, the lies and the chaos, y'all get the 417 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 3: fuck out of there. You ain't there. There are many 418 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 3: rooms to go to, there are many cities. Leave the room. 419 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 3: Fuck out it there. Shits simple. Don't sit there with 420 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 3: all that drama and shitty practical things you can use. 421 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 3: It's so boring. It's boring. I said, the greatest sin 422 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 3: is somebody to say, oh, I'm bored, bitch, They're to 423 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 3: have my. 424 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: Money, okay. 425 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: So of course, like in the last two years is 426 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 2: the most that I've heard black people speaking on finding 427 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: joy and finding their their mental health and all those things. 428 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: Because previously it was a secret. 429 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: I would never, like in two thousand and eleven, I 430 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 2: would never share with nobody. 431 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: That like it's trauma attached it a you right, because. 432 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: You don't want to share, like people think I'm crazy. 433 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: Whatever the thing is is that I know that for 434 00:27:52,640 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: black people, their go to answer was always the church, 435 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: especially of an older you know, I was born in 436 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: seventy one. 437 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 1: I know you were born before I was. 438 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 2: For a lot of people in you know, pre eighties, 439 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: people whatever, like their thing is always like I'll find 440 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: God or I'll talk to my preacher. How so this 441 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: is almost a phenomenally to hear of your your generation, 442 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: of your experience, really not even diving into the pool 443 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: of mental therapy. But I mean, you're going to the 444 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 2: abyss of it, You're going to the deepest level of it. 445 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: So what was it? 446 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: What was the moment that told you that my mental 447 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: health has to be addressed in and handled this way 448 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: as opposed to I do consider that, I do consider 449 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: organized religion as a vice akin to gambling sex. 450 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 3: Joss, let me say this to you. Yeah, there's a 451 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 3: line in the movie I did, Karina Karina where the 452 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 3: where the little girl says, these people believe I'm paraphrasing, 453 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,239 Speaker 3: but they said, these people believe in God. And the 454 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 3: people that somebody that said it was Jewish. And the 455 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 3: question that was asked by a child was she said, 456 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 3: why do these people sing about this? And the mother 457 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 3: said because it makes them feel good? And the little 458 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 3: girl said, what's wrong with that? Mother said, I guess nothing. Look, 459 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: if you want to be an organized religion, that's okay. 460 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 3: Let people do what they want to do. That's what 461 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 3: gets me through life, to allow allow others to be 462 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 3: where they are. What you gonna do, Go and make 463 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 3: them a Buddhist, Go and make them a move them. 464 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 3: You're gonna make them. What are you gonna do? Once again? 465 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: Once again, pay attention to yourself. Everybody on this planet 466 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 3: has one job and one job on self care. And 467 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 3: if you need to cry to Jesus to do that, 468 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 3: then you go on and cry to Jesus. But allow 469 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 3: other people to cry to whoever the hell they want 470 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 3: to cry to. That's what I don't like about religion. 471 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 3: Everybody think their religion is the best one. So I 472 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: don't believe in that. Lead people alone. Lead people alone. 473 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 3: If they want to work, you, let them work to Jesus, 474 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 3: let them work in Buddha or a Mohammed or Allah. 475 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 3: Let people do who the fuck they want to do. 476 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 3: I know who I am. I searched every religion in 477 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 3: this world. I have been down the road let's travel, 478 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 3: and when I got to the end, that wasn't not 479 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 3: but the big ass mirror. You cannot run. Wherever you run, 480 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 3: you will meet yourself. So there's no running. And I 481 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: told them on the breakfast club, I got money to 482 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 3: run and run. You can't run. You don't ask me. 483 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 3: Don't ask me for now. I'm like, uh, what's his name? 484 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 3: The baby? I love Dave Chapelle. I'm rich, bitch, don't 485 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: ask me for shit? All right, there you go. 486 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 5: What do you say to him to even like to 487 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 5: what on Ameir's question? Like you're leading the pack of 488 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 5: your generation in that way? Like he said, like you're 489 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 5: it is kind of special. Do you see in the 490 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 5: difference in the generational power Now? I'm using words and 491 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 5: had vocabulary for things that we didn't have before. 492 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 3: When I went, huh, I got you. When I went 493 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 3: on the road with the Mother Black Hollywood, because it 494 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 3: was my journey through bipolar disorder, I was able to 495 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 3: feel not only the temperature, but the temperament of the 496 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 3: United States. I went all over. During the Trump era, 497 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 3: people are starting to wake up. I was very pleased. 498 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: They're starting to get counseling in churches, they are starting 499 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 3: to put more counseling in youth centers. Our children are 500 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 3: falling apart, and I'm not the only woman in the 501 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 3: world that cares. People are coming together. We are getting better. 502 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 3: Everybody wanted to talk about the stigma. Yes, there is 503 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 3: a stigma, but we are getting better. You see, my 504 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 3: mother didn't have the Oprah Winfrey ship. Okay, that's what 505 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 3: I'm saying. Yeah, Mamma didn't know nothing about mental illness. 506 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 3: And yet if someone were to ask me, I would say, 507 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 3: absolutely she was. I do believe that she was depressed. 508 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 3: She had me when she was twenty six years old 509 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 3: and I was her seventh child. Whoa, she was scrubbed, 510 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 3: and she was scrubbing white people's floors. You think she 511 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 3: had time to give me affection. She was exhausted by 512 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 3: the time I came along. Listen, eve Insla, who wrote 513 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 3: the Vagina Monologues. She went all around the world. She 514 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 3: went to Africa with the women that were having the 515 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 3: the cl clitteristism. If it's clitterists, I don't know if 516 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 3: it's plural. I only have one, all right. 517 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: I used to have. 518 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 3: Three, but I think I'm out. Remember one of those 519 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 3: first one stars, that bitch tattoo when we just hacks it. 520 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: God damn, I have to wait. 521 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: That bitchaed to glitter and she has something like that, 522 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 3: something like that. It was funny, but it let me 523 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 3: get back to the let me get back to serious ship. Listen, 524 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 3: all I can say that I did not go three clitterists. Honey, 525 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 3: I did too. I need to find somebody to tell 526 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 3: me whether clitorist it's clitterissist, says sis. Come on, Jennifer, 527 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 3: if you don't. 528 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: Glitteriz, I have no idea. 529 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 3: You know, I'll come out of the bag with anything. 530 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 3: I don't multiple clitterists. Thank you? Did you look it up? 531 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: No? 532 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 3: I would. I was in uh. When I was in 533 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 3: the sea, gaddy uh. Two little baby rhinoceroses thought I 534 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 3: had some food, so they came over to me and 535 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 3: they just gone like this, just a don't get don't 536 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 3: get done. And they when they saw I have no food, 537 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 3: they kind of don't don't get, don't away from me. 538 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 3: And I started screaming, I never heard of Jenny Craig, 539 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 3: got no food for you. I'll cuts out a rhinoceros 540 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 3: bitch you hear me? And then I had to look 541 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 3: up whether it was not rhinocerih because most of my friends, wait, man, 542 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 3: because mine listen. Because most of my friends are major intellectuals. 543 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 3: I keep smart people around me. Honey, listen, I can 544 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 3: feel enough for everybody. You just tell me what the ship, 545 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 3: what's going on? But here? But if I listen, if 546 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 3: I'm a stand in the serengetti and cuffs out two 547 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 3: baby rhinoceroses, what do you think I'm gonna do with 548 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 3: the story of the clitterists? Get the fuck out it, 549 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 3: Let's go what's that who cosses out? But what you 550 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 3: need to know is, Jennifer Lord will go anywhere. I 551 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 3: ain't no shame in my game, baby, I'll do anything 552 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 3: to make people laugh. 553 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: Is because I'm also interested in your need to see 554 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: the world. 555 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,919 Speaker 2: Now, I would have liked to have thought that I'm 556 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: you know that I've I'm well traveled at least in 557 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 2: my thirty years of touring the world and whatnot. 558 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 4: But you've seen the airport at the hotel in the video. 559 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say that I still and 560 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 2: I know I've done things that are special whatnot. Like 561 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 2: I'm I'm you know again, post pandemic. I am living 562 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 2: life like I mean not to the five minute rule. 563 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 2: Once you said that, and I was like, oh shit, 564 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 2: I'm not doing shit with my life for you. How 565 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: did you even organize or make a bucket list of 566 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 2: the things that you wanted to do before you leave 567 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 2: this plane called Earth? 568 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 3: There was no bucket list. There was purpose See, when 569 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 3: I travel, I go into the trenches, I tell my 570 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 3: private guy to take me wherever they're not going. I 571 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 3: want to talk to the people. When I was just 572 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 3: in India, there were four people serving me one night. 573 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 3: They had on their little bu for chef hats, the 574 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 3: white chef hats and the white mask. And I said 575 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 3: to them, because I had come through the poverty of 576 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 3: Agra India, and I'd heard the stories of the untouchables 577 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 3: and the cast system. 578 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: So I went over to. 579 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 3: Those four people that were cooking, and I told them 580 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 3: that I had I came from that kind of poverty. 581 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 3: And I looked at them, I said, you do know 582 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 3: that you must rise up? Do you understand what I'm saying. 583 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 3: I got a little nods from them, and then I said, 584 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 3: one of you is Gandhi. And I walked away with 585 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 3: my plate of falafel, and Purposey went back to them 586 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 3: dramatically pointed to the girl and said, it's you. I said, 587 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 3: And if it's not you, young lady, you better got down. 588 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 3: Make sure you're daughter. And she sneaked over to me 589 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 3: at my table. She took her chef off, she took 590 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 3: her mask off, and came over to me like she 591 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 3: had been invited to that party, which you know, was 592 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 3: against the rules of the hotel. She stood over me 593 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 3: and she said, m I don't know your name, but 594 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 3: I want to thank you. I will rise up, miss Lewis, 595 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 3: because when she said that, I said, my name is 596 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 3: miss Lewis. Oh, come on down, Jesus. You see, I'll 597 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 3: call Jesus when it's because my mama called Jesus when 598 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 3: things were good, you understand. So I go into the trenches. 599 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 3: There's a video going around of me talking about voting 600 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 3: at Hollywood and Vine after I got my star. I 601 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 3: didn't know I was being filmed. I was signing autographs. 602 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 3: But when I get a bunch of kids in front 603 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 3: of me, I'm gonna use that time. Whether I'm in 604 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 3: India or Hollywood or Cambodia, show me whether people are suffering, 605 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 3: bring them to me. Like oh, okay. So I'm in 606 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 3: Argentina and I tell my driver to take me to 607 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 3: the real people. He said, oh, miss Lewis, it's dangerous 608 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 3: in there. I said, I don't care. Take me in. 609 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 3: I got out of that car. All these kind of 610 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 3: people were standing on the corner and everything. They looked 611 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 3: over at me getting out of that suv at Mercedes. 612 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 3: But they saw the color of my skin, oh oh yeah. 613 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 3: And some of them came over and I said to them, 614 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 3: oh honey, I'll use that celebrity. I say, y'all know 615 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 3: who I am. I said, you watch television. I said, 616 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 3: you know, to show Fresh Prince. And that's when everybody 617 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,919 Speaker 3: wakes up because that shit is global, right, that show 618 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 3: ate just national and international. That ship's global. I was 619 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 3: in a three hundred I was in a three hundred 620 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 3: and fifty year old glacier in Iceland, and a bitch 621 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 3: came up and said some shit about Fresh real like 622 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 3: I I got that. Yeah, I'm like, god, damn girl, 623 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 3: where in a glacier, Get the fuck out of what? 624 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 3: I come down? Fuck who I am? That's get the 625 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 3: fuck out. I come down and keep the fucking boys 626 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 3: down before you're carving the avalanche telling. 627 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 5: Her to keep her voice down. 628 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 3: That that's funny. 629 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 4: I think that's actually our clip. 630 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, this was after I This was after 631 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 3: I sang amazing Grason the wedding chapel that they had 632 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 3: carved off in the ice. Oh I bet it's on YouTube. 633 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 3: You can actually hear that that performance is on YouTube. 634 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 3: I sang amazing whatever y'all the uh the guy said, 635 00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 3: does anyone sing ah? What you say? Men? And my 636 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,479 Speaker 3: friend went, bitch, you ain't said nothing but the word. 637 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 3: We went up. I went up to an ice podium 638 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 3: and blasted that shit out. And I haven't released it yet, 639 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 3: but I sang amazing Grace in the an caught tom 640 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 3: in Cambodi, one of the great old ancient temple. 641 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: Wow. 642 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 3: And then I sang it in the Valley of Petra. 643 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 3: I always get out and do a little something and 644 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 3: leave my singing voice in those canyons and in those 645 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 3: mountain range. But I will tell you this, I didn't 646 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 3: sing amazing Grace up in the Himalayans. I got the 647 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 3: fuck out of that before my lungs burst at eleven 648 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 3: thousand feet. You can believe that fuck amazing Grace. I 649 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 3: the fuck out of there. 650 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 1: I don't think we've ever had an episode. 651 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 2: We're forty five minutes into this episode and I'm thinking 652 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 2: to myself, I don't even I don't even want to 653 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 2: talk about the creative side of Jennifer Lewis, Like this 654 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,479 Speaker 2: show is more about like the creative like but listen 655 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 2: to this. 656 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: I just love. 657 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 2: I just. 658 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 5: A just. 659 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: I just love Quest, I love. 660 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 3: Ques. 661 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: I keep my own song, I. 662 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 3: Just love Quest. 663 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 5: Is that like just just Himmler? Is that what I mean? 664 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll share Quarante ain't like you. 665 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 3: Thinks everyone is love. 666 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 1: I shall keep that. 667 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 2: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're pausing it there for now. 668 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 2: After that serenade, I needed a minute. So Jennifer lewis, 669 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 2: you know, lively, real and raw as anyone has ever 670 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 2: been on Quest Love Supreme. 671 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 1: And I think she may have cussed. 672 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 2: More than any guests, including Deesus and Merrill. All Right, 673 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 2: you heard me say it in the episode, but you 674 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 2: see why. 675 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 6: I called it one of the best QLs conversations ever. 676 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 6: So we expect you back next week for part two, 677 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 6: and make sure you pre order Jennifer's second book, Walking 678 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,399 Speaker 6: and My Joy in These Streets. And uh, I believe 679 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 6: that's August thirtieth. 680 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: It's like this combo. All right, see y'all next week. 681 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: West Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. 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