1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Jared takes tosses to montgovererment run right, He's gonna throw 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: it to the NFL to do the toy Lions. Sama 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Porta and welcome to Week nine of the NFL season. 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: Week nine nine, Can't Believe it. This is the twenty 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: Minu The Huddle Podcast. I am Tim twenty Minute, your host, 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: and I am joined by Nolan Bianci, who is the 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: newly number one beat writer for the Detroit You congratulations 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: on that. How's it going so far? 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: It's going well, going well. You just mentioned week nine, like, 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 2: I can't believe that. I know we're that far already. 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: It feels like all summer I was, you know, waiting 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: for it just to get started, and then all of 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: a sudden, I'm like, oh, craps. 14 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: Halfway over the halfway point of the season. And obviously 15 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions are playing some really good football right now. 16 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: Number one seed, and look it's a huge matchup this week. 17 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: This is you know, early control of the NFC North. 18 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: The Packers are six and two, Lions are six and one. 19 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: Packers head to there by next week, so you'd like 20 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: to give them a little bit of doubt about themselves 21 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: going into their bye week, and obviously you take a 22 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: real good control halfway through the season. And look the 23 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: segment of Srie keys to the game on Sunday, Nolan 24 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: and let's start with a big one. And I think 25 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: especially this week. Look, it's always important to take care 26 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: of the football, right, but I think against these guys, 27 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: you have to pay some extra attention to it, don't you. 28 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: No doubt. 29 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: And this is a situation they've been in before, going 30 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: into a divisional matchup against a team that really loves 31 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: to force those takeaways kind of butters they're brought off 32 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: those takeaways. Packers leading the league right now, but the 33 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: Lions not too shabby themselves. They've been able to force 34 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 2: some turnovers over the last couple of weeks, really all season, 35 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: whether it be through the interceptions to the fumbles, and 36 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: Packers are the same way. So it's not you know, 37 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: it's kind of a cliche sometimes that you don't win 38 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: in the turnover battle, but it does seem particularly important 39 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: this week. 40 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: Look, it's the most important statistic in football. You look 41 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: at the Packers from last year, they had eighteen takeaways 42 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: all of last year. Halfway through this season they've got nineteen. 43 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: They lead the NFL to your point. And look, the Lions, 44 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, have lost one fumble all year. Jared Golf 45 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: hasn't thrown an interception since Week three. Now, he had 46 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: a couple fumbles that they were lucky to get last week, 47 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: but he's been really, really good in that regard. And 48 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: so I think this is a terrific game. Look at 49 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: it's outdoors first time this year. It's going to be 50 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: a little bit windy. Seventy to ninety percent rain expected 51 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: in Green Bay, so it's going to be wet football, 52 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 1: wet conditions. You've just got to take care of the football. 53 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: And look, Xavier McKinney over there has six interceptions, he 54 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: leads the NFL, one more than Kirby Joseph. They have 55 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: twelve different guys to have sacks so they can get 56 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: after the quarterback. It's an aggressive scheme. It's just really 57 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: really important this week that Jared's got to be extra 58 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: careful with the football. 59 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Scotty Montgomery mentioned it yesterday, Lions running backs coach, 60 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: basically saying it's it's the you know, Ben Johnson mentioned 61 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: it today too. It's the defensive backs that are making 62 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: plays for sure, but it's also that front four, that 63 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: front eight really who's been able to kind of help 64 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 2: force those takeaways, whether it be getting pressure on the 65 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: quarterback or making plays on the ball in the backfield 66 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: on the ball carrier. So it's multifaceted their turnover ability. 67 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: And you know, we saw against the Vikings how that 68 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: can kind of hurt you. You know, there was a late 69 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: fumble there that they took care of the ball so 70 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: well all game and then all of a sudden, you know, 71 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 2: next thing, you know, kind. 72 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: Of you're in trouble. And to your point, Packers since 73 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: the first time since nineteen ninety six, they've posted multiple 74 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: takeaways in their six games and seven of their eight 75 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: games they have multiple takeaways this season. So, like you said, 76 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: you said it best. That's where they're kind of bread 77 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: is buttered, you know, getting those takeaways, creating short fields, 78 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: and it might be even more important this week if 79 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: they have Malik willis right, if you're without your starting quarterback, 80 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: what's an offense's best friend. We saw how many times 81 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: last week with Detroit. You get a big turnover, you 82 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: have a short field. Now you can put some points 83 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: on the board and start to feel good about yourself 84 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: as a backup quarterback too. So just another reason why 85 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: it's really really important this week to take care of 86 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: the football and that'll be you know, one of the 87 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: big keys, I think number two for Detroit is stopping 88 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: this Packers run game. 89 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and that's something that they I wouldn't say have 90 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: struggled to do over the last two weeks, but it's 91 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: something that they haven't really been able to do up 92 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: to snuff, up to their standard really since the start 93 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: of last season. They've been one of their best run 94 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: defenses in football. You know, the Packers are averaging two 95 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty four yards per game and on the 96 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: ground in games where Malik Willis is starting, and I 97 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: believe over the last two weeks it's been the Lions 98 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: have allowed somewhere around one forty five a game. Obviously, 99 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: you know, we've talked about how these injuries up front 100 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: have im packed the pass rush, but it does seem 101 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: to some degree that they might have a little bit 102 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: of effect on the run defense as well. 103 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. Packers two hundred fifty five rushing yards. 104 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: That's the most through eight games since nineteen sixty three 105 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: for them, and that's a football team that's been pretty 106 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: well known for one in the football Obviously they got 107 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: Brett Farbni and Rodgers in passing, but they've been a 108 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: balanced football team over the years, and to have those 109 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: kind of numbers, I think just Josh Sjaikas has been 110 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: a terrific addition for them. Six hundred and seventy four 111 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: yards in the first half of games, second behind only Washington. 112 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 1: So look, they like to establish it, they get it going, 113 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: and then now you've got to adjust as a defense. 114 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: Now they've got those weapons on the outside with Jordan 115 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: Love and even Malik Wilfs. We saw it last week 116 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: with Jordan Reid, and some of the weapons have got 117 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: on the outside with Watson. You've got to start sucking 118 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,119 Speaker 1: up a little bit. You've got to start concerning yourself 119 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: with Josh Jacobs and how they're gaining ground, and then 120 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: they'll go over the top for you. So look, if 121 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: you stop it right away, you force Malik Wills to 122 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: beat you with his arm, and look, he can do 123 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: it with his legs too. But look, if Malik Will 124 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: starts this game in the rain, and you can stop 125 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: the run and you force him to make a whole 126 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: bunch of passes and he completes some. Me, he beats 127 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: you through the air. You tip your cap and you say, 128 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: good job. We'll go on to the next one. We'll 129 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: see you later in this season. We hope it gets 130 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: you to destroy But to me, that's got to be 131 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: the goal going in right. 132 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely, And I guess with the two starts 133 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 2: that he made, like I said, they really relied on 134 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: that run. He did a little bit of passing in 135 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: the second game, more so than the first game. But 136 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: I mean, if you can go on the road and 137 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: silence that crowd and kind of get the momentum on 138 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: your side, I think that'll be a big way to 139 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: kind of, you know, get off to the right foot 140 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 2: in a big road game. 141 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: Because to what we talked about on the first point too, 142 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: the fifteen takeaways for Destroyer, that's second most. And so 143 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: you get them into a passing mode, you know, you 144 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: get them into you know, they down two scores, you 145 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: stop that run early, you made plays. Now they've got 146 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: to come from behind. That's not how they're built with 147 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: Malik Willis, that's not their style of play, right. They 148 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: want to run the football to your point over two 149 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: hundred games. 150 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know, if you get into a 151 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 2: position where your defense is able to dictate that game 152 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: despite all the injuries, despite the fact that you know, 153 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: like Campbell's talked about, they've had to manufacture that pressure, 154 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 2: that's a that's a good place to be. 155 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. The three third key for me, it's a little unorthodox. 156 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: You can obviously talk about turnovers run game, but to me, 157 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: it's taking advantage of opportunities. And why I wanted this 158 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: one Nolan is because what did Dan say about what 159 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: his expectation is for this game about the fourth quarter? 160 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: He said it was going to come down to what. 161 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: Yep, it's going to come down to whoever. Probably one mistake, 162 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: probably one mistake is going to decide this game. And 163 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: again that's something we saw in the game against the 164 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: Vikings a couple of weeks ago, where that one mistake 165 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter almost cost him that game. But 166 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 2: you know, this team is resilient. They've proven that, and 167 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: they've also proven that they can take advantage of those opportunities. 168 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: They're nine for eleven in the red zone over their 169 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: last three games. They you know, three of the turnout 170 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: three of the four turnovers, they last week against the 171 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: Titans turned into touchdowns, and they've just really put on 172 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 2: a masterclass of complimentary football. And I think that kind 173 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: of lends itself to that. 174 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: So it's taking advantage of those opportunities. When I look at, 175 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, defensively, the Packers have twelve giveaways, that's eighth 176 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: most in the NFL. Nine interceptions, third most in the NFL. 177 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: They're gonna they want to push the ball down the 178 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: field and get it too those weapons, but they're gonna 179 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: give you opportunities to make plays because of it. So 180 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: take advantage when when they underthrow a ball or when 181 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: Kirby does see it makes a break on it, take 182 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: advantage of that. Take them when those takeaways are that 183 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: they're going to give you a couple. I think there's 184 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: gonna be two or three chances for an interception for 185 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: Kirby Bryant. Maybe we see our first cornerback interception last week. 186 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: It's been a while and just you know, look, they 187 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: got three fumble the league has three fumbles lost, I think. 188 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: So you know, the red zone, they're they're you know fifty, 189 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: they're twenty fifth in the red zone. So they don't 190 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: score a ton in the red zone, So get him 191 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: in the rental, make sure you get a field goal, right, 192 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,239 Speaker 1: take advantage of taking those four point off the field. 193 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: And then when you look at look at the Packers 194 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: allowed twenty six passes of twenty plus yards offensively, they're 195 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: gonna give you some chances to make some big plays. 196 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: So it's just to me that like a key when 197 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: it's when it's gonna be a close game, when your 198 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: head coach expects it to be close game one play 199 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: here or there, it's that that opportunity that you get 200 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: for a big takeaway or a big play. You got 201 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: to take advantage of it in the rain, in the 202 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: in the you know, on the road, in those kind 203 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: of windy conditions, if you get that play, make sure 204 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: you make it. 205 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 206 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: And then, like I said, they've been able to do that, 207 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 2: you know, not just over the last couple of games, 208 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: but but seemingly all season. You think back to you know, 209 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 2: Week one against the Rams and the Rams are driving 210 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: and right before half and Kirby Joseph comes up with 211 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: a big interception that ends up being the difference in 212 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: the game that goes to overtime, and you know, you 213 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: go back to the Dallas game that was a you know, 214 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: obviously it ended up being forty seven to nine, but 215 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 2: early on it was, you know, it looked like it 216 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 2: was going to be a battle, and then all of 217 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: a sudden, Brian Branch comes up with that interception in 218 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: the end zone and off and running. 219 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: They are running. It's that it's that opportunity to make 220 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: that big play that can change things and obviously decide 221 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: if it ends up being a close game late. He 222 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: is Nolan Beyonce. He does a great job with the 223 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: Detroit Nean's working people find on Twitter at Nolan Beyonce 224 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: just his first name. Last night, that's pretty simple. I've 225 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: got Kirby Joseph coming up. I've got Rob Demoski with 226 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: a breakdown of the Packers. So we got a lot 227 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: in store for you to stick around. Welcome back to 228 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: the twenty m Huddle podcast. I am with someone now 229 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: who really doesn't need any introduction. He is a very 230 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: close friend to the podcast. I think it's his third 231 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: time on now. Thirty eight tackles, seven passes defended five 232 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: interceptions on the season, which is the second most in 233 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: the NFL, behind only Xavier McKinney. He's the first lines 234 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: player since Yale Larry in nineteen sixty two to have 235 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: five interceptions in his first seven games, thirteen interceptions since 236 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: interer League and twenty twenty two, second most over that 237 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: time span. You of course know who I'm talking about. 238 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: It's Kirby Joseph, Lions safety and a guy who's on 239 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: his way to Pro Bowl. All Pro Curb. Thanks for 240 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: joining the podcast. 241 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: No appreciate you for having me. I just want to 242 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 4: thank God if allow me to come out, you know 243 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 4: a day, use my talents to the best of my ability, 244 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 4: and I'm just so happy to be here. 245 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm happy to have you because, I mean, you are 246 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: playing some really good football right now. I mean, five 247 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: interceptions through seven games, You're just seeing it. Just how 248 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: much are you enjoying being part of this secondary, being 249 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: part of this defense right now? And it's filled with 250 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that are playmakers and you're a 251 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: big part of that. Oh. 252 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 4: I feel like it's just everything like I love like 253 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 4: coming out and playing football with the guys. Man, Like 254 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 4: it's just everything we talked about like way back in 255 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: like training counsel, just seeing our dream come true, just 256 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 4: knowing what we got to do with being in the 257 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 4: right spots and everybody just making plays, Like I really 258 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 4: feel like I couldn't make I couldn't make none of 259 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 4: these plays without my teammates, Like they just uplift me 260 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 4: so so well, and them doing their job just allows 261 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: me to do my job, allows me to make plays. 262 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: You know, you got Carlton Davis comes in, a veteran 263 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: guys been doing it at a high level for a 264 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: long time. Terran is really settling in now with some 265 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: games under his belt. Obviously, Brian goes to safety a 266 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: meek you saw he did last week punching guys out. 267 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: You've got a good mix of veteran guys, some young guys, 268 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: and really, now that you've had some time on tasks, 269 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: that really been the biggest thing in training camp. You guys, 270 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: there were some injuries, you didn't get to play a 271 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: lot together. Now that you've consistently played with each other, 272 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: is this one of the best secondaries in the NFL 273 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: in your opinion? 274 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for sure, for sure, We the fifty boys. Man, 275 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 4: ain't nobody better than us, man. You know, I just 276 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 4: feel like, yeah, we didn't practice as much together as 277 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 4: a whole in OTA's but that doesn't mean we wasn't 278 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 4: together like off the field. You know, I felt like 279 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 4: we built that chemistry off the field just allows us 280 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 4: to come on the field and just you know, allow 281 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 4: that chemistry to work. 282 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: How important is that to be? You know, a group 283 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: of guys that likes hanging with each other off the 284 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: field as well as on. 285 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 4: I feel like it's a huge help because like we're 286 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 4: a brotherhood. You know, you have to be able to 287 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 4: trust that your brother is going to do his job 288 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 4: and be in the right spot. Like, for example, like 289 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 4: a couple of my interceptions, like it was sometimes where 290 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 4: I didn't even have to communicate to BB, or BB 291 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 4: didn't have to communicate to me, but we just knew 292 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 4: exactly where each other were gonna be, just because like 293 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 4: it's just like a feeling, like an instant thing, and 294 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 4: just like I know my boy's gonna be right there 295 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 4: where he. 296 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: Needed to be. How much have you love that move 297 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: him moving to the nickel from nickel to the safety. 298 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys right now, nine interceptions together, curb, 299 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: I think that's more than twenty seven teams just YouTube interceptions, 300 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: more than team totals. How much have you loved that 301 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: combination right there, and how much has it made you 302 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: a better player? 303 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 4: I love it, you know what I'm saying. One thing 304 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 4: about me, I love to see my boys win, you 305 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, I love seeing him do 306 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 4: great because you know, it just motivates me to do great. 307 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 4: And also like me and Beebe been going hand in hand. 308 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 4: We back were back and forth with you know what 309 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 4: I'm saying. So he always thinks he gonna catch me, 310 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 4: but he can't catch it. 311 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 312 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 4: I'm never you know what I'm saying, So like just 313 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 4: you know, when I get one, I know that motivates 314 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 4: him to get another one in or when he gets one, 315 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 4: that motivates me to get another one. You know, we 316 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 4: getting on the corners, you know, so we waiting for it. 317 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 4: I don't know who's gonna be the first corner to 318 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 4: get an interception. But you know what I'm saying, out 319 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 4: punch outs, they got fumer recovery for that, as long 320 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 4: as they're just like attacking the ball, you know what 321 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 4: I'm saying. We just all got it in our own 322 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 4: low way. 323 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: What are the benefits of having two guys like like 324 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: you and Brian who can who are versatile, who could 325 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: do multiple things. Both you guys can play up in 326 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: the box. Both you guys can be that deep you 327 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: know cover, you know, single high safety. And when you 328 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: got two guys like that. What's the advantage for a 329 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: defense when you've got two guys? Is it just as 330 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: simple as you can really disguise where you guys are 331 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: at and the coverages that that you can play. 332 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say it really does help with the disguise. 333 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 4: You can't really tell what we're gonna do because we 334 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 4: could both do both things, play down in the bus 335 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: or be deep in the middle. I feel like it 336 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: gives the offense a hard time to really like try 337 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 4: to figure out what we're about to do. You know 338 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Me and might both be bad, you 339 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, So they don't really know what 340 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 4: we're gonna do or what we're capable of. 341 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: Is there an art to baiting a quarterback? 342 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 3: Oh? 343 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you do a pick and have you kind of 344 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: started to master that art now? 345 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, yeah, for sure. It's times where like we 346 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 4: like we have a great coaching staff. You know, one 347 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 4: thing I learned this this offseason was the QB progressions 348 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 4: and stuff like that. 349 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: Just so just. 350 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 4: Learning whether qbs want to go with the ball when 351 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 4: they see certain looks and stuff like that. So we 352 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 4: understand that we got to, you know, give him different 353 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 4: looks and just understand our defense what we got to 354 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 4: get to in order to make plays and to watch y'all. 355 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: Five interceptions in seven games? Did you have an interce 356 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: did you have an interception total coming into the year 357 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: that you kind of thought about wanted to get and 358 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: have you had to make in an adjustment at all 359 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: with with how hot and how many you've gotten early 360 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: in the season. 361 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 4: Man, the number, it really ain't no number, But I'm 362 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 4: going to lead the league interceptions. 363 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: Brian Branches. See what have you seen in his first 364 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: year playing safety? Now? I know he did a little 365 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: bit last year, but but what do you like about 366 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: his game? What do you see him? What kind of 367 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: safety can he be in this league? 368 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 4: Well, he's a very versatile safety, like man, Like his 369 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 4: coverage ability is like the best I've seen out of 370 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 4: a safety like just him just seeing how he works, 371 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 372 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: Like the stuff he. 373 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: Do, I'm still in awe, Like I still be like, wow, 374 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 4: I can't believe he did that. Like just plays he 375 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 4: makes like it's just like shout out to him. I 376 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 4: feel like he's becoming his own person in this league, 377 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 4: like bringing his own name in this league and really 378 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 4: trying to show y'all why he y'all playing when y'all 379 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 4: got him in the second round, Like he really like 380 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 4: sticking to that and really showing y'all like who he 381 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 4: is for real? 382 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: How much you're looking forward to this matchup? A first 383 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: place matchup in week nine at lambeau Field against a 384 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: Green Bay team. Now, look, they've got twelve giveaways on 385 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: the year. There's gonna be some opportunities there. But but 386 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: what do you think of this matchup? How fun is 387 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: it going and playing the Packers week nine for a 388 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: game you know that means first place in the division. 389 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 4: I feel like it's an NFC week. You know, we 390 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 4: got our division rivals. I feel like it's just everything 391 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 4: just to go against the Packers, just go against another 392 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 4: a good team, to really showcase our talent and showcase 393 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 4: our ability on defense to take the ball away, you know, 394 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 4: just going against a good offense, just showing our defensive capabilities. 395 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 4: I just feel like it just shows warbar k Low. 396 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: Did the preparation change it all? Kurub When you don't 397 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: know who the quarterback is, Jordan Lover's Malik willis obviously 398 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: a little bit different play styles. I know they have 399 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: the concepts that they're going to have no matter who's 400 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: in there. But is that a tough part preparing during 401 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: the week or does it really not affect you guys 402 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: in the preparation. 403 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 4: I feel like it's just really like you stay ready 404 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 4: so you don't got to get ready. So, you know 405 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, no matter who's in there, we'll understand 406 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: that we got to do our job, knowing our assignments 407 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 4: and read our keys, you know what I'm saying, and 408 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 4: just play together as a whole and also just trust 409 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 4: the game plan. I feel like our coaches do a 410 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 4: great job getting us ready throughout the week, So just 411 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 4: shout out to them. 412 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: Hey, Ta looks like he's kind of really settling in 413 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: here at the last couple of weeks. What do you 414 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: think of that young cornerback? 415 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 4: And man, I love yeah man Ta Ta Man, he's 416 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 4: just so young, man, he's so talented and so gifted. Man, 417 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 4: He's just going to continue to get better and get 418 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 4: better like how I did my rookie year. I just 419 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 4: continue to get better. One thing I know about Tia 420 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 4: that he has the ability to learn. He's very coachable. 421 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 4: He always wants to get better, So that's just something 422 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 4: great to have. He's not hot headed or nothing like that. 423 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 4: He just really wants to learn football and get better. 424 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: It's really fun playing this secondary right now. I mean 425 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: every week it seems like you guys are just having 426 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, a great time, you know, causing havoc, making plays, 427 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: getting takeaways. It's just it hasn't always been that way, 428 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, the last few years early in your career. 429 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: But now you guys have the talent in there and 430 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: it just looks real different. It's got to be really 431 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: fun to then. 432 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 4: No, it is super fun just to go out there, 433 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 4: Like I said, man, I go out there man and 434 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 4: just have fun. 435 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: Man. 436 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 4: I feel like we put in all the work throughout 437 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 4: the weed like that's when you that's when you really 438 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 4: want to go hard and practice. So the game could 439 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 4: just be easy and fun, you know what I'm saying. 440 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 4: You could just play free. You know. I feel like 441 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 4: I have no no worry, no worry when I go 442 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 4: out there because I know everybody's gonna do their job 443 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 4: and it's gonna have a little mistakes whatever, but we 444 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 4: let we shake that off, you know what I'm saying, 445 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 4: and just continue to cause cause havoc. I feel like 446 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 4: playing defense, you got to be a little crazy, you 447 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like everybody out there, you know, 448 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 4: I look crazy for us. So it's like it's just 449 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 4: a little fun just to see everybody just going hard 450 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 4: and playing physical, you know what I'm saying. Like when 451 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 4: you see somebody make a physical tackle, that makes you 452 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 4: want to go be physical too. So just being able, 453 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 4: like it's not only one catalyst on the team, you know, 454 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 4: it's multiple on the team. 455 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: Though. It is fun watching this offense you perform. Yeah, 456 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: thirty three point four point number one special team should 457 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: look what they did. I mean, you guys are really 458 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: playing complimentary football, and that's the sign of a good team. 459 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 4: Right Yeah, And shout out to special teams man, Like 460 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 4: every week they just consistently like getting better. Like shout 461 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 4: out to Jack Fox Man, he really really giving us 462 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 4: the best field position. So like just shout out to 463 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 4: the special team unit and like just like, man, I 464 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 4: know the offense like I'll be in practice and they're 465 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 4: pulling out players I just because I know it's gonna 466 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 4: work against the defense. So just seeing them. 467 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: Man. 468 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 4: Ben Johnson is doing a great job getting those guys ready. 469 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: Man. 470 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 4: Just Dan Campbell, Man really just putting us all together 471 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 4: as a team and allowing us to work collectively. 472 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: Man, you're doing a great job to five interceptions second 473 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You've really been a catalyst for this 474 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: kind of takeover on defense. Top five in the league. 475 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 1: You're playing your best ball of your career. I think 476 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: you're headed to a Pro Bowl. You're headed to an 477 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: All Pro if you continue. Thanks for joining the podcast. 478 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 4: Appreciate you, appreciation for having me. You know I'm out here. 479 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: Hey make shaw y'all go shot Zoopemotion dot com go 480 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 4: get you to Zuper Merch. And I'm just happy to 481 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: be out of him and I love y'all. 482 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: One Prime. Welcome back to the twenty in the Huddle podcast, 483 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: And let's go out to West a little bit. Let's 484 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: go over to Green Bay. Rob Demoski does a great 485 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: job for ESPN, the ESPN NFL Nation Packers reporter. He 486 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: is the guy to go to if you need any 487 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: Packers News, Rob, thanks for taking the time. I appreciate it. 488 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: You had a great ESPN stat there when we were 489 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: chatting before that. This is a pretty nice matchup Week 490 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: nine for the Lions and Packers, isn't it. 491 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been a long time, tim since these teams 492 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 5: met and both teams had this good of a record. 493 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: Uh, this late in the season, it's. 494 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 5: It's been a while, so it's a lot of fun 495 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 5: for both sides, for both fan bases that, you know, 496 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 5: just hope the game lives up to it, right, Like 497 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 5: when you get two good teams going middle of the 498 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 5: year like that. 499 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 3: I hope that it that it lives up. I know 500 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: the weather here. 501 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 5: Could be a little shaky on the weekend, could be rainy, windy, 502 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 5: but hopefully it doesn't impact the game and we get 503 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 5: a true test of these two teams. 504 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: Hey, Rob, we've been in the NFC North for a 505 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: while now. That that's NFC football, right, It's not real 506 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: NFC footba unless there's a little rain, a little bit 507 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: of cold and nip. You know, it's I'm slipping here 508 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: and there wet football. 509 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 5: The last home game two weeks ago was like one 510 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 5: of the warmest October home games at Lambeau History, Like, 511 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 5: it was almost eighty degrees, so I'd rather have that. 512 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's crazy. This is actually the first 513 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: time the Lions have been outdoors all year, and this 514 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: year they only play three games outdoors. It's this one 515 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: Week sixteen in Chicago in December, so that one could 516 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: be and then Week seventeen, second to last game of 517 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: the year at San Francisco. Three times through outdoors, that's it. 518 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: Otherwise they're in the friendly confines of indoors, all right, 519 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: So let's get to it. Big news in Green Bay 520 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: obviously this week is the quarterback situation with Jordan Love 521 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: didn't practice Wednesday, but saw he was back on the 522 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: field on Thursday. How good of a sign is that. 523 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: What are your expectations for him and his availability Sunday? 524 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 3: Robins, Yeah, I think it's a really good sign. 525 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 5: I also thanked Tim that it was a good sign 526 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 5: that he talked to us yesterday and make of it 527 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 5: what you will, But he did not talk after week one, 528 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 5: and he had the knee injury and didn't play week two. 529 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 5: He did not hold his regular availability and like he 530 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 5: didn't hesitate when asked how realistic it is that that 531 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 5: he could play this week. He said, it's realistic, Like 532 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 5: I mean, there was no you know it was it 533 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 5: was definitely upbeating his voice and no hesitation. 534 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: I will say this. 535 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 5: The practice on Thursday was rainy, just like it could 536 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 5: be on Sunday. They went outside and he was definitely 537 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 5: taking it easy in as far as movements, like if 538 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 5: you watch the clips of him rolling out and Malik 539 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 5: Willis rolling out, Malik was putting his foot in the 540 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 5: ground a little harder. So I'm sure Jordan was a 541 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 5: testing it out and b on that wet grass and 542 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 5: want to you know, do too much to aggravate a 543 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 5: groin injury. So, you know, not completely out of the 544 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 5: woods yet, but I do think at least as of 545 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 5: Thursday afternoon's practice, it was trending in the right direct. 546 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: You know. Obviously it could be a situation too where 547 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: you know, if Jordan's available to go, he would go. 548 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: But last week that was his case and then he 549 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: had to leave in the third quarter and then you know, 550 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: Milik comes in, makes a couple of really great plays 551 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: at the end there, gets him into field goal range 552 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: and they win it. If it's a situation where Malik 553 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: does have to come in. Obviously, you hope that's not 554 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: the case and Jordan could play this thing all the 555 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: way through. But how is that offense different? Rob We 556 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: talked to to defensive coordinator Aaron Glenny. He said it's 557 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: a little bit more run centric when Malik is in there. 558 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: Is that accurate or do they pretty much try to 559 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: stay to what their true identity is with with either 560 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: quarterback in there? 561 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 5: So that's an understatement on his part, he was, He's right, 562 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 5: he was down playing it considerably. In Willis's two starts, 563 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 5: tim the Packers have called design runs on sixty eight 564 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 5: percent of their plays compared to forty one percent in 565 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 5: Jordan Love's, so definitely skewed differently. 566 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: I will say this though it was heavily. The first 567 00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 3: start was was massive rock. 568 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 5: I mean, he threw what was it It was like, 569 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 5: was it like twelve times? 570 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 3: The next game it was closer to twenty. 571 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 5: The other day, you know, in limited work he threw 572 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 5: a little bit more and of course everyone saw that 573 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 5: Jaden Reid fifty one yard pass that set up the 574 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 5: game winning field. 575 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 3: Wal So he's. 576 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 5: Definitely getting more comfortable. But look, I mean, if it 577 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 5: is Malik Willis. They're going to lean on Josh Jacobs 578 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 5: extra hard, not that they don't do it anyway, but 579 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 5: as you can tell by those numbers, it skewed pretty 580 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 5: heavily toward the run when Willis plays. I will say 581 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 5: this though, I mean, Malik Willis has done everything that 582 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 5: you could have imagined. He won two starts. Now, he 583 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 5: did get the weeks to prepare in practice for those, 584 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 5: so maybe a little bit easier. But then he came 585 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 5: in with no practice reps last week because the number 586 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 5: two quarterback here just doesn't get any the all Scout 587 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 5: teams reps and did what he did. He led several 588 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 5: scoring drives in relief. So this might be, you know, 589 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 5: depending on how the season goes, Malik Willis might be 590 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 5: a guy who's considered to save their season and it 591 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 5: might be one of the all time great trades for 592 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 5: a seventh round pick. I mean, what team wouldn't think 593 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 5: about a seventh round pick for basically three wins. 594 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been he's been trigging. And that's all you 595 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: can ask if your backup quarterback, right, just come come in, 596 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: finish the game, give us a win here or there. Yeah, 597 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: and to get two of them, and and and say 598 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: and and save another one. It's been terrific. But you 599 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 1: mentioned that run game of Josh Jacobs, and he's been 600 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: terrific for them. I saw this and fifty five rushing yards. 601 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: They haven't had that most through eight games in the 602 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 1: season since nineteen sixty three. I mean, there's a lot 603 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: of Packer history there that that that really has been. 604 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: You talk about good additions, that's been one. He just 605 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: seems to fit that offense so well, doesn't he. 606 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 5: Rob Yeah, And I think he's been everything that they 607 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 5: could have hoped for, not just from a production standpoint, 608 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 5: but from a durability standpoint. I mean, Aaron Jones as 609 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 5: terrific as he was missed games, and Aaron Jones has 610 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 5: already missed game this year. Josh Jacobs did get dinged 611 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 5: up at the very very end of the game in Jacksonville, 612 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 5: but basically played the whole game, had one hundred and 613 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 5: twenty seven yards one of his best games, two touchdowns, 614 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 5: and he was practicing again on Thursday. So it looks like, 615 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 5: you know, the workhorse that he is a durability will 616 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 5: will show through again and expect him to play this week. 617 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 5: But that was really the biggest thing that they wanted 618 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 5: out of the running back position. Obviously they wanted the production, 619 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 5: but they wanted a guy that they could count on. 620 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 5: And Aaron Jones, as great as he was, was starting 621 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 5: to miss games. You know, the year after year. 622 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: My fantasy team with Josh Jacobs can account for what 623 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: you're saying there. He's spent steady ninety for me all 624 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: year long. But hey, let's slip over to the other 625 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: side of the football. And it's weird when you throw 626 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: on the tape from a Detroit guy, from an NFC 627 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: North guy and you see a four to three base defense. 628 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: I know they play a lot of sub over there, 629 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: but it just something seems off. But Jeff Hafley, what 630 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: he's done over there, it's really an aggressive front. I 631 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: think he got twelve different that have recorded his sack. Obviously, 632 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: the nineteen takeaways lead the NFL. Just what have you 633 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: seen from them? And what a great matchup this is 634 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: this week against that aggressive defense that can take the 635 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: ball away. In Detroit's offense that is on a tier 636 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: right now, leading the league with thirty three point four 637 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: average points per game. 638 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 5: Well, as the Packers were kind of slogging through the 639 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 5: Jacksonville game on Sunday, I kept looking up with the 640 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 5: scoreboard and the Detroit scorer just kept going high. I mean, 641 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 5: we were in the thirties, they were in the forties. 642 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 5: They get the fifty two points, and I thought, man, 643 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 5: how the heck are the Packers going to slow that 644 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 5: offense down. But Jeff Hafley, he promised two things. He 645 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 5: promised vision to the football and aggressiveness. And in terms 646 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 5: of the vision of the football, you talk about the takeaways. 647 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 5: This team only had eighteen takeaways all of last year, 648 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 5: only seven interceptions all of last year. 649 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 3: They're over both those numbers. 650 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 5: I mean, hex Xavier McKinney is almost he's got six interceptions. 651 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 5: He's almost equaled their team total from all of last 652 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 5: year by himself through eight games. So he has been 653 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 5: an incredible pickup. And then the aggressive nature of it is, 654 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 5: and it's not necessarily blitzing in the traditional sense that 655 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 5: they're gonna send five or six, but he's blitzing. I 656 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 5: guess you can still call it a blitz blitzing guys 657 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 5: that don't normally rush, but it's still within the structure 658 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 5: of a four man pass rush, which allows you the 659 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 5: simple math as he still keeps seven in coverage. I 660 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 5: mean the game against Houston where they had four sacks, 661 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 5: two or three of them were on four man pressures, 662 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 5: but they were sacks by guys who wouldn't traditionally rush. 663 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 5: Eric Wilson is a stand up inside linebacker. He's not 664 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 5: normally coming. He had two of them. Zavier McKinney with 665 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 5: a safety blitz off the edge, So you know, technically, 666 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 5: I guess blitzes are defined as sending five or more. 667 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 5: But to me, when you're sending guys that don't normally 668 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 5: rush and you're catching people by surprise, that's the blitz too. 669 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 5: And that's where Halfley has really really provided, just a 670 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 5: versatility that it's hard to game plan for when you 671 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 5: don't know exactly who's company. 672 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: A couple more for Rob Demoski does a great job 673 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: ESPN NFL Nation Packers reporter, the guy out in there 674 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: in Green Bay that I go to for for all 675 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: my Packers information. These teams know each other Rob very well, obviously, 676 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: as as you know division fos. But who's maybe a 677 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: guy that Lions fans Lions coaches don't quite know yet. 678 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: But who's impacted them early and who could impact the 679 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: game on Sunday. 680 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Edgar and Cooper. 681 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 5: Uh, I mean he's the second round pick linebacker out 682 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 5: of Texas A and M. I mean people should know 683 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 5: who a second round pick is. But he made his 684 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 5: first start on Sunday in Jacksonville and was all over 685 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 5: the field and and he was a defensive rookie of 686 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 5: the week, Uh. 687 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: Defensive NFC NFC defensive player of the week. 688 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 5: Right. Yeah, the last rookie that did that here was 689 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 5: Klay Matthews and his rookie year in nine. Cooper is Uh, 690 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 5: he is, he's rangy, Uh, he's he he can tackle 691 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 5: in one sequence. Uh, he was in forcing uh a 692 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 5: fumble on a path rush and then later on not 693 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 5: too long after, he was down the field breaking up 694 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 5: a deep ball uh to to a receiver Christian Kirk. 695 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 5: I mean that's that's talking about versatility, and so number 696 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 5: fifty six, I'd. 697 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 3: Keep your eye on him. Uh. They're gonna find ways 698 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 3: to use him more and more. 699 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 5: Uh. Slow start to the season was hurt for most 700 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 5: of training camp, but it seems like you know, he's 701 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 5: now kind of catching, uh catching his stride a little 702 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 5: bit and He's a guy that you know is obviously 703 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 5: new to this matchup as a rookie, but I think 704 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 5: could be an impact. 705 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: Player, all right, last one from me. Obviously a big 706 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: matchup in Lambeau. The Lions are really excited about it. 707 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: But but how does Green Bay defend home turf? How 708 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: do they you know, get get get to uh seven 709 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: and two head into their bike. I think they have 710 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: a bye week heading up after this, right, so you 711 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: obviously want to feel good going into your BUI. We 712 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: you take control of the NFC North early on. How 713 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: do the the Packers do that? What's the biggest key 714 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: in Rob Demosky's mind to the Packers winning on Sunday? 715 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think they're gonna have to do 716 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 5: what we talk about earlier team and that to take 717 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 5: the football away. You know, they've only had one game 718 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 5: this year where they got where they had no takeaways. 719 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 5: I believe that was the Houston game, I think, and 720 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 5: they won the game at the last second field goal. 721 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 5: I have a piece running on ESPN dot com before 722 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 5: the game about you know, how they've started slow offensively 723 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 5: and they know the couple guys said, hey, we know 724 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 5: we can't do that. 725 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 3: With a caliber of opponent like the Lions coming in. 726 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 5: You're not you know, no offense to the AFC South, 727 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,719 Speaker 5: but you know they've run through that division not as 728 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 5: strong as as this one, and they've had to come 729 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 5: down to last second field goal is the last two weeks. 730 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 5: And the interesting thing is they've taken the ball. They've 731 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 5: won the toss the last two weeks and taken the 732 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 5: ball and the first time they went three and out. 733 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: The second time they got one first down and punted. 734 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 3: You know, it's a. 735 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 5: Interesting strategy to not defer if they win the toss. 736 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 5: But if they're going to do that, you better start early. 737 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 5: So I think those are the two keys. Is trying 738 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 5: to get a few takeaways. I don't know how else 739 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 5: you slow down Jared goff and and this offense. If 740 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 5: you don't take the ball away, and then you absolutely 741 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 5: cannot start slow like you have the last couple of weeks, 742 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 5: and because you're not gonna you're not gonna get a 743 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 5: last second drive to win a field goal if you've 744 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 5: started out slow. So I think those are the two 745 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 5: areas that they've focused on. And when you're in the 746 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 5: locker room this week, that's that's sort of what you 747 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 5: hear is those are the things that they have to do. 748 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 5: But look, I mean the weird thing is there were 749 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 5: this deep end of the season, and this is only 750 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 5: the Packers' second division game. 751 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 3: They lost the Vikings already at home. 752 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 5: If you lose this one to the Lions at home, 753 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 5: you still have to go to both of those places. 754 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: Later in the year. 755 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 5: And if you want to win this division, I don't 756 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 5: know how far behind you'd want to get. 757 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: Well, big game for Green Bay obviously, you want to 758 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: feel good going into your buye too. You don't want 759 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: to get behind in some of the tiebreaker scenarios because 760 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: this division is is going to be close. I think 761 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: it's the only division football where all four teams have 762 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: a winning record. You look at the point differentials there, 763 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough sledding. So these are all gonna 764 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: be key games. It's definitely a fun one in lambeau 765 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: Field Week nine. I'm looking forward to it. So is Rob. 766 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: Make sure you catch his stuff. He does right job 767 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: with ESPN. There is the inside man for everything Packers. 768 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 3: Rob. 769 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for taking the time. I appreciate it. 770 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: Look forward to Sunday. 771 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, you got it Tim I always good to catch 772 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 5: up with you.