Speaker 1: Because two is officially better than one. Welcome to your
Speaker 1: second date classes.
Speaker 2: I see what you did there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's brig and Jeffrey in the morning. We're
Speaker 1: putting two classics back to back for you so you
Speaker 1: can get whatever you need to get done done today
Speaker 1: and just have a little dose of second day on
Speaker 1: your Saturday or the opposite.
Speaker 2: Don't do anything and just sit and listen. Unproductive, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: we don't.
Speaker 1: Judge you, all right, just enjoy it starts right now.
Speaker 3: The world is constantly evolving. Yeah, we're seeing new technology,
Speaker 3: new trends, new social norms, even new jobs.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: And one of our listeners has a job that we
Speaker 3: had never heard of before. And when she described her
Speaker 3: profession to us, the whole room was shocked. Yeah, Alexis
Speaker 3: was jealous, seriously. Jose and I were impressed. And Brooke, well,
Speaker 3: she told this woman she should be ashamed of herself
Speaker 3: and can do better, but not wrong. Okay, to be fair,
Speaker 3: that's Brooks response to everyone about everything. The question is
Speaker 3: does her unusual job block her from a happy dating life.
Speaker 3: We're gonna find out in a second date update right
Speaker 3: after this.
Speaker 4: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning second date update.
Speaker 3: An important part of any blossoming relationship is the first
Speaker 3: time a woman corrects her man and tells him he
Speaker 3: messed up. You need to do better.
Speaker 5: All right, Well, this has to happen.
Speaker 3: It's such a special moment because we need that as guys.
Speaker 3: If left to our own devices, we'll wear four gallons
Speaker 3: of axe body spray and think it smells good. We'll
Speaker 3: wash our cashmere sweaters in hot water, Jeff, is that
Speaker 3: what you do? Are we not supposed to?
Speaker 1: Every man?
Speaker 3: Thank goodness for women being there to correct us so
Speaker 3: we can learn and go. Oh, that's how it works.
Speaker 1: You have to use your own brain.
Speaker 3: Well, a lot of women will wait a few dates
Speaker 3: to correct their men, but not our listener, Monica. She
Speaker 3: told the guy he messed up on night one, yikes
Speaker 3: for his benefit, broke.
Speaker 2: No, it's nice, it is.
Speaker 3: That's what happened, Monica. Welcome to the show. Was that
Speaker 3: intro to your liking? Or could I have done better?
Speaker 6: No? You hit it?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, wow, it's not. Just made my day, Monica,
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I'm always so curious why someone says a guy messes
Speaker 1: up and then still wants to call him for another
Speaker 1: date all that.
Speaker 3: You know, we'll get into that, but let's start with
Speaker 3: what's this guy's name? Who did you go out with?
Speaker 6: Okay, so I met Isaac online at least seemed really cool.
Speaker 6: I like his personality. I like his looks definitely.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of potential there.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I really liked him because there's a lot of
Speaker 6: guys on this app that there will catch you forever.
Speaker 6: I don't do the back and forth, back and forth thing.
Speaker 6: He came right down with it. He was like, I
Speaker 6: want to take you out.
Speaker 1: And all the action just living in this weird world
Speaker 1: of like what are we doing?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Right, that's a good note for men, because the more
Speaker 3: you talk, the more opportunities you're giving yourself to say
Speaker 3: something stupid, and we will do that.
Speaker 5: Well, yes I'm talking.
Speaker 3: Okay, good for Isaac. Now I'm not going to say
Speaker 3: much more. Just keep going.
Speaker 6: What happened? Yes, he says, come pick me up and
Speaker 6: take me to the nice restaurant. So you know, I
Speaker 6: got up in my nice little dress, thinking yeah hey,
Speaker 6: and then he came close up, he got out, he
Speaker 6: opened my door. Okay, yeah, he was a very nice
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna lie he.
Speaker 1: Was nice, Okay, okay, so everything's working in his favor
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: I'm wondering where things start to turn and you have
Speaker 3: to step in.
Speaker 6: And as soon as we got out the highway and
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh no, because I see Buffalo Wow Wings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, let's go.
Speaker 1: Are you excited about that or not excited?
Speaker 6: I'm not excited at all. I just came from Buffalo
Speaker 6: Wild Wings too much ago with my whole girls. I
Speaker 6: get excited for now.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that he's taking you there for a date
Speaker 1: and you're not feeling.
Speaker 6: That, you expect a lot better, not a little. He
Speaker 6: puts it in park. He gets out of car, comes
Speaker 6: around and opens my door like a perfect gentleman he is.
Speaker 6: And I said, please close my door.
Speaker 3: You said close. You said close the door while you're still.
Speaker 1: In the car.
Speaker 6: I said, please close my door.
Speaker 1: Well it's nice to reply, let's close my door.
Speaker 6: And I think that he thought I was kidding, because
Speaker 6: he was like san in there.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hello, Pa, so you're going to force him
Speaker 1: to take you somewhere else.
Speaker 6: I don't force anybody to do anything. I'm letting him
Speaker 6: know please close my door, because I don't do Buffalo
Speaker 6: wild Wings as a date.
Speaker 1: That's that's a messy food. It's a terrible first date.
Speaker 2: It sucks your address and stuff together.
Speaker 3: Especially uncomfortable women don't want to like sit and drink
Speaker 3: beers and watch sports and scream and spilled beers.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you what I don't want to do
Speaker 6: on a day. I don't want to watch the whole
Speaker 6: grown man lick his fingers.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm gonna write that down.
Speaker 5: Sexy when we sucked on the bone.
Speaker 1: So did he finally listen to you and shut the door?
Speaker 6: Yes? He did. He touch the door. I said, I
Speaker 6: got three choices for you, and he picked a nice
Speaker 6: cocktail bar, and I said, okay, cool. I thought, okay,
Speaker 6: he didn't know, right, he didn't know. I told him
Speaker 6: let's go also.
Speaker 5: And he adapted. And he would be offended, seem offended
Speaker 5: by the way, like he.
Speaker 6: Seemed more confused than offended.
Speaker 3: That's that's a standard, you know, mental headspace for men,
Speaker 3: just constantly right.
Speaker 1: How was it though, when you got to the cocktail bar?
Speaker 1: Were you able to still keep a good energy together? Yes?
Speaker 6: He asked me questions about what had just happened. I'm
Speaker 6: like yo, I'm a lady for real, I want silk aware,
Speaker 6: I don't want plastic utensil.
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
Speaker 6: So he was like, okay, I never thought of that.
Speaker 6: So I'm teaking him what a real lady like.
Speaker 3: I'm sure he actually appreciated the education on how to
Speaker 3: properly woo a woman.
Speaker 1: I don't I know he appreciated it because he's not
Speaker 1: calling you back.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh man, that's a good question. I appreciate it,
Speaker 6: and that's what I'm calling you.
Speaker 1: See, I would be insulted.
Speaker 2: See I'm thinking that's the reason he wasn't getting second
Speaker 2: dates before, and now he's got it down.
Speaker 1: She taught him too well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's what a lot of women get upset
Speaker 3: when they're like, oh great, I cleaned up my guy,
Speaker 3: just for the next one to come and like swipe
Speaker 3: him up.
Speaker 5: He's taking ten girls in that cocktail bar.
Speaker 6: We gotta get down to the nitty gritty because I
Speaker 6: want to know, because I think I did everything right
Speaker 6: and I taught him how to do everything right, and
Speaker 6: somehow I want.
Speaker 3: You deserve a medal and definitely a second date here.
Speaker 1: But what if he feels like you're too high maintenance.
Speaker 3: Then screw that cop.
Speaker 5: He doesn't want a real woman, then you'll.
Speaker 3: Lay into him, go fullhard against him, right Bro, that's
Speaker 3: where you come in. You do your thing, noll.
Speaker 1: I just think that if you have some boundaries like that,
Speaker 1: they should be established before the date, not when you're
Speaker 1: in the middle.
Speaker 6: Of But look, he's the want to ask me out
Speaker 6: and I accepted, right, Yeah, so you're gonna learn me
Speaker 6: on the date. And that's what he did. If he
Speaker 6: didn't like when he learned, hen responded, you haven't fallen
Speaker 6: a whole radio show to find out what's ram with you. No,
Speaker 6: I can't wait to hear this.
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear it too, So hopefully he
Speaker 3: picks up. But we're gonna come back. We'll call Isaac
Speaker 3: for you and figure out why in the world he
Speaker 3: would not be calling back a classy woman like yourself, Monica.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a cloth napkin type of lady.
Speaker 3: That's right. Let's get some answers when we do your
Speaker 3: second date update right after this.
Speaker 4: Hold on Brook and Jeffrey in the morning Second date updates.
Speaker 3: If you're just joining us, we've been speaking to a
Speaker 3: true hero. Her name is Monica heroically swooped in and
Speaker 3: save her date Isaac from pulling a total rookie move
Speaker 3: when he tried to bring her to Buffalo Wild Wings
Speaker 3: for her, and that wasn't gonna fly with her, so
Speaker 3: Monica refused to get out of his car in order
Speaker 3: to show him this is not where you take a
Speaker 3: lady of substance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they definitely had a miscommunication of what a dinner
Speaker 1: date looks.
Speaker 3: Like, but instead they ended up at a nice cocktail
Speaker 3: bar and they did it the proper way, where she
Speaker 3: actually discovered Isaac's a pretty good guy as some gentlemanly
Speaker 3: qualities something to work with. So the question is why
Speaker 3: is he not reaching out for cocktails? Round two, Monica?
Speaker 3: Is it possible that maybe he saw your helpful sense
Speaker 3: a teaching abilities as a little bit condescending.
Speaker 6: That's a possibility. I just wish he would have expressed
Speaker 6: that to me personally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you seem like a person who can take criticism,
Speaker 1: constructive criticism.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if I could d it, I definitely could take it. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's right.
Speaker 1: That's a good attitude to have. It doesn't happen often on.
Speaker 3: This Yeah, would you like to criticize her constructively? Before
Speaker 3: we do this call? Is that where you're going.
Speaker 1: She knows who she is, she knows what she wants,
Speaker 1: and she wants to go out with Isaac.
Speaker 3: So okay, So Brooke, you're scared of her and you're
Speaker 3: afraid to say anything.
Speaker 1: I think Isaac will be scared and it will be
Speaker 1: afraid to say no. So I think you're getting a
Speaker 1: date no matter what. I also like to scare men.
Speaker 5: She seems like you broke.
Speaker 3: You're going to intimidate this guy and saying yes to
Speaker 3: a date. But let's see what he asked the safe
Speaker 3: he picks up the phone. But here we go. Hello,
Speaker 3: Hey is this Isaac?
Speaker 8: Yeah, good bitch.
Speaker 3: Hey man, we're a radio show. You're on it right now.
Speaker 3: It's called Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Isaac.
Speaker 5: Hey, good morning.
Speaker 8: Why is a radio show calling me?
Speaker 3: Uh well, it's kind of a good reason. We do
Speaker 3: a segment on this show. It's called a second Date Update.
Speaker 3: It sounds like you haven't heard it, but this is
Speaker 3: a segment where we help out our listeners who've been
Speaker 3: on a date with someone and afterwards they're not getting
Speaker 3: a call back to go on a second one.
Speaker 7: I think I have.
Speaker 9: Heard of it.
Speaker 8: I think I've seen this online somewhere on something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of them are viral on TikTok, sir
Speaker 1: on there.
Speaker 3: You can follow us at Broke and Jeffrey if you
Speaker 3: want to. No pressure. But basically the reason that we're
Speaker 3: calling you is there's a woman named Monica who asked
Speaker 3: us to get a hold of you.
Speaker 8: Hey, yeah, I met Monica.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, we know you.
Speaker 1: Sounds like you guys could have had a great date.
Speaker 8: Did she What did she tell you? What did you
Speaker 8: tell you?
Speaker 10: Question?
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I guess the general recap of what we
Speaker 3: heard from her is you picked her up, then you
Speaker 3: took her to Buffalo Wild Wings, which she uh politely
Speaker 3: redirected over to a cocktail bar.
Speaker 8: Well politely redirected. It would be wrong, jeff.
Speaker 5: She's our friend, So you know we're not gonna be rude.
Speaker 8: Well, I mean I wasn't rude either. She just simply
Speaker 8: kind of barked closed my door. At first. I just
Speaker 8: stood there, like, what do you mean? You like there's
Speaker 8: a bug about to get inside my car. I was like, okay,
Speaker 8: so I close the door and I go back to
Speaker 8: my side of the car. I get in and she
Speaker 8: explains to me like, hey, I don't do Buffalo Wild
Speaker 8: Wings And I was like, yeah, all right. I mean
Speaker 8: the reason why I chose the Buffalo Wild Wings because
Speaker 8: in these new dating apps, it's better to start out
Speaker 8: something very casual. Another date, we graduate to something a
Speaker 8: little better.
Speaker 1: But wait, did you explain all of that to her?
Speaker 1: What you just told us why you chose it?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 8: I didn't explain any of that to her, and also
Speaker 8: didn't tell her this. I own that Buffalo Wild Wings.
Speaker 1: You own it a franchisee.
Speaker 2: You're gonna take her to your own job though?
Speaker 1: That's civil lexis yaccep you get free food.
Speaker 5: Yeah, guys, he's a business owner.
Speaker 1: Who care? Okay?
Speaker 8: So look, so look, I'm gonna be honest. I'm still
Speaker 8: a gentleman. She wanted to go somewhere a little bit better,
Speaker 8: so we made our way to this great cocktail lounge
Speaker 8: that I know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what changed your mind to where now you're
Speaker 3: not reaching out to her for a second date.
Speaker 8: Okay, So, while we're kind of enjoying each other's company,
Speaker 8: it's the cocktail bar, I start asking her a little
Speaker 8: bit more about her life, and of course we get
Speaker 8: to like, what do we do for a living?
Speaker 6: Uh huh.
Speaker 8: She kind of skated around it for a while. So
Speaker 8: she came to an answer I'd never heard in my
Speaker 8: entire life.
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 8: She says she's a stay at home daughter.
Speaker 3: A stay at home daughter.
Speaker 1: What she's gotta be joking?
Speaker 8: Not a joke, No, it's not a joke. That's what
Speaker 8: she told me her occupation at thirty one years old,
Speaker 8: that she's a stay at home daughter.
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be stay home girlfriend.
Speaker 1: I mean, that is a real fancy way to say
Speaker 1: you're unemployed and live with mom and dad.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you were turned off because she doesn't have
Speaker 3: enough ambition or drive.
Speaker 6: Or all right, we got we gotta cut this right here. Okay,
Speaker 6: I don't know what's going.
Speaker 3: On, all right, I don't want to make her mad,
Speaker 3: But Isaac, that's Monica on the other line listening to
Speaker 3: this conversation.
Speaker 8: Clearly, it's Monica.
Speaker 1: Clearly, maybe she's on her parents landline.
Speaker 6: You better watch yourself. You supposed to be with.
Speaker 3: Me here, Okay, Monica, clearly you want to jump in
Speaker 3: and say something, So go ahead, talk to Isaac.
Speaker 6: Hello, isa how are you hi?
Speaker 8: Monica? From your mom's couch. How you doing?
Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no, no, no, Let me tell you something, Isaac.
Speaker 6: I don't know what's the disrespect about. I thought we
Speaker 6: got along pretty well. I'm our date. We had a
Speaker 6: good time. I didn't know you had a problem with
Speaker 6: my daily occupation. What is the problemish?
Speaker 1: But we're parents, like elderly. Do you stay home and
Speaker 1: take care of them? Is that what's going on?
Speaker 6: We're just no, they're perfectly healthy. They just take care
Speaker 6: of me. I'm their baby girl and I always will be.
Speaker 8: Okay, Monica, guess who else is perfectly healthy? You are?
Speaker 6: Get a job? You know what. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 6: I am perfectly healthy. Yes I am, as you could see.
Speaker 6: And if I had to get a job, I would,
Speaker 6: But guess what, I.
Speaker 11: Don't have to.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Don't you want a job. Don't
Speaker 1: you want your own career? Don't you have your own
Speaker 1: dreams and ambitions?
Speaker 6: Like? Yes, my dream and my ambition is sitting at home,
Speaker 6: playing my day, going and doing what I have to
Speaker 6: do and finding a man that's don't take care of
Speaker 6: me so my parents could stop.
Speaker 2: Oh so that's your goal, Brooke.
Speaker 3: It sounds like you're judging her there, and she explicitly
Speaker 3: asked you not to do so.
Speaker 1: It's really hard not to because you would never date
Speaker 1: a guy who is doing what you do.
Speaker 6: You are exactly right, and they shouldn't. A man shouldn't
Speaker 6: do what I do. Yeah, my bro is to be
Speaker 6: taken care of. That's my love language. I love to
Speaker 6: be taken care of, and if it works for me,
Speaker 6: it works the.
Speaker 2: Old school chivalry and stuff.
Speaker 1: I cannot imagine imagine being a man going and meeting
Speaker 1: your parents for the first time. That sounds like.
Speaker 5: Both of them.
Speaker 1: What's your dowry, sir?
Speaker 3: Okay, well, Isaac, now that she's explained this a little
Speaker 3: bit more, you're probably more receptive to going out with
Speaker 3: her one more time.
Speaker 8: Look. Look, I wish Monica the best. It's just not
Speaker 8: the best with me. Oh, you have great life, Monica.
Speaker 8: I hope you find a guy slash simp it will
Speaker 8: take care what.
Speaker 6: I don't think. So, Isaac, You're gonna take me out
Speaker 6: and that's just the way it is gonna be.
Speaker 2: I love how you want to be the boss, but
Speaker 2: you don't want to do any of the work.
Speaker 1: To tell you a.
Speaker 6: Boss a boss doesn't work.
Speaker 12: No idea of a boss you don't want to make
Speaker 12: And that is the problem.
Speaker 6: Y'all just don't understand, and clearly I don't understand being
Speaker 6: a whole business owner and want to take me to
Speaker 6: his little budget wing stop.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna be honest with you, Monica. See there's a difference.
Speaker 8: There's a difference between a boss and a leader. You're
Speaker 8: not a leader.
Speaker 6: I never said I was a leader. I never said that.
Speaker 8: I am a leader. I'm a leader.
Speaker 6: Okay, but you could have been a man and leave
Speaker 6: my all that you could have told me that why
Speaker 6: are you dodg didn't running.
Speaker 8: No one's dodging or running. What I'm doing is ghosting five.
Speaker 3: Who was uncalled for Okay, and.
Speaker 6: You don't need him. I don't need him anyway.
Speaker 3: He hung up by the way, a job, you don't.
Speaker 3: You know what you need to do is you need
Speaker 3: to go to Buffalo Wild Wings and spend your parents'
Speaker 3: money over there.
Speaker 6: No, I'm not going in no more. Look I'm going to.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're going to be on the phone
Speaker 1: a lot with your expectations for dating.
Speaker 6: That's okay. Look I got a lot of time boo.
Speaker 3: That's a good point, and are your parents hiring for
Speaker 3: any open roles in your family?
Speaker 6: Because I would love to be that good.
Speaker 4: Brooking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 3: Well, hey, we all learned a new job today, stay
Speaker 3: at home daughter a job.
Speaker 2: Applying right now texting my mom?
Speaker 1: You would last I give you two days back home
Speaker 1: with your parents? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4: Isaac?
Speaker 3: Isaac did not like it, obviously Brook does not respect
Speaker 3: it either. But okay, Brook, let me ask you this, Okay,
Speaker 3: would it have changed how you felt if Monica was
Speaker 3: twenty one years old compared to thirty one, would you
Speaker 3: give her more grace?
Speaker 1: If she's not going to school, she should be working.
Speaker 3: No, that's right. Brook believes you should start working at
Speaker 3: age six in one of her overseas factories. So parents,
Speaker 3: if you're lazy, first grader is still mooching off of
Speaker 3: you as a stay at home child, Yeah, and then
Speaker 3: text in nine two Brook'll whip them into shit.
Speaker 12: Mat me give you some parenting tips, yes, and if
Speaker 12: not parenting tips, we can hopefully at least give you
Speaker 12: a little bit of dating help.
Speaker 3: You can email the show. We can call that person
Speaker 3: who's not calling you back and go check out all
Speaker 3: of our Second Day podcasts wherever you get yours, they're
Speaker 3: up at Brook and.
Speaker 4: Jeffrey Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 11: There's nothing more hacky, more cliche, more overdone gimmick in
Speaker 11: radio than playing the record scratch sound effect oo.
Speaker 5: Records in here?
Speaker 1: Do I hear crickets?
Speaker 3: I mean, you've heard it on commercials and in old sitcoms. Honestly,
Speaker 3: we've probably done it on the show too. A few
Speaker 3: times we just did it, I don't remember. But in
Speaker 3: today's call, you're gonna hear a real life record scratch
Speaker 3: moment that happened that immediately put the brakes on a
Speaker 3: decent date.
Speaker 1: You know, if you listen to it differently, it kind
Speaker 1: of sounds like a zipper going down, which would be
Speaker 1: a positive on a date.
Speaker 3: Here's what she wants to do. What was said? I
Speaker 3: know I cringed when I heard it. I'm guessing you
Speaker 3: will too. In your second date update right after this.
Speaker 4: Broken Jeffrey in the Morning Second date updates.
Speaker 3: What do you do if you're on a date with
Speaker 3: someone and in the middle you feel like it's going
Speaker 3: do you a order a round of shots to get
Speaker 3: the party going?
Speaker 1: You know, depends on the establishment.
Speaker 3: Yeahs option b fake like you're choking, So she gives
Speaker 3: you the Heimlick and at least you get some action
Speaker 3: out of it.
Speaker 1: A couple of broken rams too, yeah, and a.
Speaker 3: Great story or c have a very honest one on
Speaker 3: one breakdown about how this date is actually going so far.
Speaker 3: I think I take the Heimlich option over that one,
Speaker 3: and I wonder if our listener, Tina wishes she had
Speaker 3: done the same. So let's talk to Urtina. Welcome to
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 10: Hi, thank you.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. That intro makes it sound like you
Speaker 1: told your date in the middle of it that it
Speaker 1: was going terribly well.
Speaker 3: You sent us an email about this person's profile that
Speaker 3: you met on Hinge, and I'm just going to read
Speaker 3: some of the things that you sent from his bio
Speaker 3: before we even get to your story.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm interested.
Speaker 3: So according to this, his name is Josh, he's a
Speaker 3: specialist in education. His profile says he's dating with the
Speaker 3: intention of marriage.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, sounds like a stable.
Speaker 3: Guy, good career, and he's into skyscrapers and tropical fruits.
Speaker 3: Not sure why we would need to know that information
Speaker 3: for this, but it's it's nice to be over informed. Sometimes.
Speaker 5: So you ever put a big apple on the big apple,
Speaker 5: this guy would.
Speaker 11: Free me out.
Speaker 1: It sounds like if there's a lull in your date,
Speaker 1: you just bring him to a tall building and he's
Speaker 1: really excited.
Speaker 3: Well, yes, a story all right. Now we have an
Speaker 3: idea about who Josh is. Clearly you met him on
Speaker 3: the app. So what did you two do for your date?
Speaker 3: We actually went to the do the Zoo Zoo.
Speaker 1: It's a cute date.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we got a couple of waffle cones and we
Speaker 7: just walked around but then animals and just talked a lot.
Speaker 1: All right, that's good, I mean.
Speaker 7: Well he did he talked a lot.
Speaker 3: Oh okay. Does that have anything to do with the
Speaker 3: thing I mentioned earlier about when the date's kind of
Speaker 3: going mad?
Speaker 7: Yes, he's the one who asked me.
Speaker 3: Oh he asked you how the date was going?
Speaker 7: Yes, because I was being kind of quiet and so
Speaker 7: maybe he wasn't. I was having fun, So he just asked, like,
Speaker 7: is the date going? Okay?
Speaker 1: Was that the first question he asked you? Because it
Speaker 1: sounds like he was talking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what did you say?
Speaker 7: I was like, do you want me to be honest?
Speaker 5: I would have been like no, no, and that would
Speaker 5: have made it fun, right, like lie to me.
Speaker 3: Oh now what happened?
Speaker 7: Yeah, because he said yes please, So I told him directly, Well, honestly,
Speaker 7: you're talking a lot.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, good feedback is next to you as a
Speaker 3: person who talks a lot, it's good to know that.
Speaker 3: Well maybe, but some people might take that differently. Did
Speaker 3: Josh seem offended by the critique.
Speaker 7: No, he seemed more confused, like as if he didn't
Speaker 7: know he was doing it. But he heard me out
Speaker 7: and then he tried to take constructive criticism. That's good
Speaker 7: and he did a good job of it.
Speaker 1: Oh he did, okay, good, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 7: We hung out for another hour, ended up grabbing drinks
Speaker 7: because at the Zoom you can buy beer.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And I didn't even know.
Speaker 1: That they're offering alcohol at every kid's place these days.
Speaker 1: Parents are just like.
Speaker 5: They them to like slop shots.
Speaker 1: I think it's just beer and wine typically. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not like.
Speaker 3: It's just to take the edge off.
Speaker 1: It's not to turn up doing body shots at the zoo.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you bring your own in.
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe a little bit of beer. A little bit
Speaker 3: of alcohol helped make the conversation go a little bit better.
Speaker 6: It actually did.
Speaker 1: He was just nervous, right, maybe you're just a strikingly
Speaker 1: beautiful woman and he couldn't think straight and that's why
Speaker 1: he was talking so much at the beginning.
Speaker 3: You said, she's not denying that. How did you leave
Speaker 3: things at the very end?
Speaker 7: Well, at the very end, we just hugged and said goodbye.
Speaker 7: But while we were there, he worked on like an
Speaker 7: antelope puzzle and we did it together and it was fun,
Speaker 7: so it was cool.
Speaker 5: So the date actually got better then after you told
Speaker 5: him like he was talking too much.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it actually did. Like I mean, he was more mindful,
Speaker 7: he asked me questions, he allowed me to be Yeah, oh.
Speaker 1: You did an antelope puzzle. Yeah, I mean it's.
Speaker 3: Any date, Jeff, I mean sorry you said it just
Speaker 3: led to a hug at the very end. There was
Speaker 3: no kiss.
Speaker 7: No we text since then, but they've all been pretty short.
Speaker 7: So I feel like now maybe he's overthinking things and
Speaker 7: he's taking what I said too seriously.
Speaker 5: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3: He talked too much before and now he's not talking enough.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Right, I can.
Speaker 5: See that he's overcompensating, or.
Speaker 7: It could be something completely different that I didn't pick
Speaker 7: up on.
Speaker 1: Okay, but you're definitely feeling the vibe like he is
Speaker 1: not responding enough to ask you out again obviously.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because like I'm sending him forty text and ferdy
Speaker 7: picks and he's not respondingpened.
Speaker 3: She's like Antelope Skyscraper Guava fruits with the problem is
Speaker 3: wrong with this man?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you said it, jeff.
Speaker 3: Follow me for my sexy emoji handbook coming later on
Speaker 3: in this winter. No spoilers, no spoilers. Okay, first, we
Speaker 3: got to finish this second date update. We'll call Josh,
Speaker 3: get some answers, and do it right after this.
Speaker 4: Hold on Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second Date updates.
Speaker 3: I've learned two things so far today, Okay. One, you
Speaker 3: can't drink at the zoo Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't believe you, of all people didn't know that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like you sniff out a beer
Speaker 1: wherever it is Zoom Frequenter.
Speaker 3: But look for Brooke and Jefferies listeners Zoo Crawl coming soon.
Speaker 3: Eat you buy the baboons for yaeger bombs.
Speaker 1: I think it's like irresponsible you have a beer Jess
Speaker 1: only days.
Speaker 3: Yeah on Brook and Jeffery's listener.
Speaker 1: Zoom Cross passes out in the bar mclosure odd hashtagals.
Speaker 3: The second thing I've learned is with enough constructive criticism,
Speaker 3: you can change a man. Brooke already knew that.
Speaker 1: She tells me every day it is not worth your energy.
Speaker 4: I said that.
Speaker 3: Because our listener Tina was honest on her date when
Speaker 3: Josh asked, how do you think this is going with us?
Speaker 6: And she was.
Speaker 3: Polite but said, hmm, you'd probably be going better if
Speaker 3: you talked a little less.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And he heard her, you know, like that's
Speaker 1: the amazing thing. He's like, oh, okay, exactly.
Speaker 3: Their day actually went pretty good after that. He didn't
Speaker 3: run off and cry near the snake cage like most
Speaker 3: guys would. He actually stuck around, had fun. They got drinks,
Speaker 3: did puzzles. So maybe there's another factor playing into all
Speaker 3: this that we don't know about yet. So, Tina, even
Speaker 3: though he has all these issues, why is it that
Speaker 3: you want us to reach out to him today?
Speaker 7: I mean, like, we had fun together and he's like
Speaker 7: a great guy totally.
Speaker 5: Well, the fact that he could adjust and take constructive
Speaker 5: criticism and be mature about it, I think that's a
Speaker 5: big green flag.
Speaker 1: Well, and anybody who's a talker knows that if you
Speaker 1: get nervous, your mouth just doesn't shut up.
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe let's take some of our own advice there,
Speaker 3: and we're gonna call Josh. Let's listen to ourselves. I'm
Speaker 3: dialing Josh's number right now. Hopefully he picks up. Here
Speaker 3: we go, great, Thank you, guys, You're welcome.
Speaker 6: Let's do this. Hello.
Speaker 3: Hey is this Josh?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hey Josh, Josh.
Speaker 5: Hey, good morning.
Speaker 8: How many arts therapy?
Speaker 6: What's going fun?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's a lot of us in here because
Speaker 3: we're show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning
Speaker 3: kind of like a Morning Zoo, if you will.
Speaker 1: I worked on a show called The Morning Zoo.
Speaker 3: Oh god, it's supposed to be a joke. Yeah, you're
Speaker 3: on the radio right.
Speaker 6: Now, Josh uh okay?
Speaker 5: Why?
Speaker 3: Why is because we're doing a segment called a second
Speaker 3: Date Update waiting for response.
Speaker 1: It's okay, he doesn't know what it is.
Speaker 6: That's all right.
Speaker 3: It's a segment we try to help out listeners who've
Speaker 3: gone out with someone and they're not getting a call
Speaker 3: back for a second meetup. So that's the case with
Speaker 3: you and one of our listeners named Tina, Helle.
Speaker 1: You're not letting the pause happen.
Speaker 5: Well, you're doing it to give.
Speaker 1: Him a beat. You know he's processing a lot right now.
Speaker 5: Don't force it.
Speaker 3: I'll try it again, Tina. Yeah, Tina, I remember Tina. Okay, sorry,
Speaker 3: I know this is probably a lot. I'll just tell
Speaker 3: you that we spoke to Tina before calling you, and
Speaker 3: she told us about your hangout. She mentioned the vibe
Speaker 3: between you may have changed after you asked if everything
Speaker 3: was going okay in the middle of the date.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: What did you think about her response?
Speaker 3: Yeah, have her feedback.
Speaker 9: I mean she used this analogy. Seems she called it
Speaker 9: the stop light rule.
Speaker 1: Okay, stop light rule when she was talking about how
Speaker 1: you were talking too much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not familiar with that. What is the stop
Speaker 3: light rule?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 9: Well, she says that when you've been talking for twenty seconds,
Speaker 9: it goes from a green light to a yellow light because.
Speaker 8: You've started to talk too long.
Speaker 9: Twenty seconds, Yeah, twenty seconds, and then she said, once
Speaker 9: you hit forty seconds, it's a red light.
Speaker 6: What.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, that's like a general rule, you're saying.
Speaker 9: Yeah. She explained the whole take to me, and she
Speaker 9: said that I sped past the red light at least
Speaker 9: two to three times, which and I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 9: didn't know that, like there was a traffic.
Speaker 1: Law for k I mean, I guess to get to
Speaker 1: get conversation going back and forth, back and forth like
Speaker 1: that pingling.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm trying to count while you were talking.
Speaker 3: Just now I heard it.
Speaker 1: I didn't lose it.
Speaker 3: And this is all feedback you're getting on a first date.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean we were having drinks and like I
Speaker 9: got a little bit of my story out, and she
Speaker 9: was like, you still have the green, but only for
Speaker 9: another seven or eight seconds.
Speaker 1: She's you're still I thought it was just one example,
Speaker 1: and then we moved on from it.
Speaker 5: She's got one of those big speeding guns. She's knocking him.
Speaker 3: I'm counting, keep going. You're not talking enough now.
Speaker 1: That would be difficult.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like the rule, but it's stressful.
Speaker 3: Is that how it felt, Josh?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 9: I mean, and I felt like I was like on
Speaker 9: like my like driving test.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, when I was sixteen.
Speaker 9: The instructor was like speed up, now, slow down, I
Speaker 9: use your blanker merge. So I just kind of like
Speaker 9: lost all my confidence.
Speaker 5: She's like, I love the way you parallel park that paragraph. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that was perfect.
Speaker 3: It's understandable. And you know what, I'm going to tell
Speaker 3: you something here, Josh. I don't think Tina meant for
Speaker 3: it to come across that way. And I'm gonna let
Speaker 3: her her tell that to you herself, because she is
Speaker 3: on the other line right now waiting for me to
Speaker 3: hit my red light so you can stop talking. And
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give her the green to go, So Tina,
Speaker 3: go ahead. The intersection is yours.
Speaker 7: Josh, my god, Like, you make me sound so horrible.
Speaker 9: Oh wait, even listening this whole time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you're making me look pretty bad here, Like, well, well,
Speaker 7: I think he.
Speaker 1: Was making you look bad. He was just saying it
Speaker 1: was overwhelming, Tina. It was a lot for him to
Speaker 1: think about.
Speaker 8: What.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, but like, where's the lie?
Speaker 9: Like I didn't say anything that was not true?
Speaker 7: Okay, Well, to be honest, when you were talking to
Speaker 7: the radio host, I stopped listening after about like twenty seconds.
Speaker 1: Oh ye, why are you so offended? You gave him
Speaker 1: feedback and now he's giving you feedback.
Speaker 7: Because he has a tendency to like drone on and
Speaker 7: on and she actually thanked me in a moment, and like,
Speaker 7: don't forget that, you.
Speaker 6: Say, like, what do you say to that?
Speaker 7: Did you not ask me to give you honest feedback?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 9: Like I did, but like I wasn't expecting your.
Speaker 7: Accountability.
Speaker 3: Accountability, Like it's not your fault.
Speaker 7: You're a long talker. You just acknowledge it. And the
Speaker 7: goodness is you're trying to get better, and like I
Speaker 7: see the potential in you and it's so great.
Speaker 1: I don't don't think it's a compliment. You think it
Speaker 1: is to tell people you see potential in them. It's
Speaker 1: like you like the person for how they are now.
Speaker 6: You Yeah, one day, I didn't mean it like that.
Speaker 10: I meant it like he's improving every second and he
Speaker 10: needs me because like clearly because now it's obvious like
Speaker 10: he hasn't learned his lesson because he is still talking.
Speaker 10: And I also feel like the whole are not even
Speaker 10: paying a full attention.
Speaker 5: That's true. I really don't pay that much attention.
Speaker 9: It's a lot they're not paying attention, like like I'm
Speaker 9: sure they are because you're being rude and insensitive.
Speaker 11: Like so there take that advice.
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm always open for getting better, Josh, But if
Speaker 7: it doesn't come with a helpful analogy and a short one,
Speaker 7: then it's kind of lost on me.
Speaker 3: Like, actually, the stop like thing has already been taken,
Speaker 3: so you need to find another sort of like commuter thing.
Speaker 3: We have to go, like some bicycle lane, maritime.
Speaker 1: Law kind of compliments that would be helpful.
Speaker 9: Relationship relationships are not supposed to be this hard.
Speaker 6: Especially, this isn't hard.
Speaker 2: It's a little confusing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I told you what it was.
Speaker 10: I explained to you how it works, and I'm pointing
Speaker 10: out when you go too long, So like, what's so
Speaker 10: hard about that?
Speaker 1: It feels like one of those roundabouts where you don't
Speaker 1: know what the third exit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to give everybody the red light here,
Speaker 3: and I'm just going to tell you a little fun
Speaker 3: fact about me is that I am not I am
Speaker 3: not the best talker either, but I think something we
Speaker 3: can all agree on. Even Brooke will back me on.
Speaker 3: This is everybody, all of us here, and every person
Speaker 3: on earth has areas in their speech they could personally
Speaker 3: improve on.
Speaker 1: That shut off.
Speaker 13: What does that have to do with him thinking she
Speaker 13: was rused flaws? Okay, there's an easier way to say
Speaker 13: that our speech.
Speaker 5: Yes, I think the twenty second rule is real.
Speaker 2: Because again after that yeah.
Speaker 1: Speech, no more.
Speaker 3: Advice is needed and I should just ask would you
Speaker 3: care to both improve each other's lives immensely by going
Speaker 3: out with one another one more time and we'll pay
Speaker 3: for it.
Speaker 7: I mean I would do it again and do it
Speaker 7: for charity reasons.
Speaker 3: That So that's a big yes from Tina. Is nothing
Speaker 3: to work and change you over the next few years. Josh,
Speaker 3: what do you say, will you be her project? I
Speaker 3: say it under like twenty words, I'm going to give
Speaker 3: you a yellow light on this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 9: I don't want to feel like I'm going to traffic
Speaker 9: court every day for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3: So a big note from me.
Speaker 1: It's interesting most people think traffic court is fun. Well,
Speaker 1: it didn't work out, you know.
Speaker 6: It's something.
Speaker 12: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning red Light, Green Light,
Speaker 12: Yellow Fatal and squid Game and apparently in the dating
Speaker 12: world too.
Speaker 1: How do you not make that connection earlier? It's funny.
Speaker 3: Probably should have, but maybe we should use it on
Speaker 3: this show. As soon as Brook starts telling one of
Speaker 3: her pathetic, ugly duckling childhood stories where she tried to
Speaker 3: show skin to the mailman and even he wouldn't pay
Speaker 3: any attention to her. Alexis, you're gonna start holding a
Speaker 3: colored card and when it flashes yellow means time to
Speaker 3: start wrapping the story up.
Speaker 1: I get red carded and you just look little too much.
Speaker 3: We get We know left one was a little wonky
Speaker 3: and he wasn't interested. We've heard the stories.
Speaker 1: He was always interested, jeff It doesn't matter how wonky
Speaker 1: things are.
Speaker 3: But if you need help in your dating life, like
Speaker 3: Brooke did back in her teenage years, you can always
Speaker 3: email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling
Speaker 3: you back. And go check out all of our Seconday podcasts.
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Speaker 3: Jeffrey