1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: The bread show is on, is stay or go? All right, 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: let's lend our. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 2: Expertise now to someone in need our dating expertise. I 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: would think between five of us we can figure this out. 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: Oh yes, one way or the other, someone's advice is 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: going to be right. You just had to figure out 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: whose it is. Probably mine, hat Natalia. Hello, I'm really 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 2: good at this. I'm good at telling other people what 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: to do. I'm in fact, not good at making my 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: own choices. I make terrible choices. Actually, But let's hear 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 2: what's going on with you and this dude that you've 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: been dating now for a few months. 13 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: What happened? Tell us everything? 14 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: Sorry, So last week was my birthday. Oh thank you, 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: thank you very much, he said. He wanted to, you know, 16 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: plan dinner for me, and he reached out to my friends, 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: like five of them made the reservation. He decorated the 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: party room like his private room at this really nice restaurant. 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: It was super sweet, and he paid the tab after dinner, 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: and honestly, like I was super grateful, Like it couldn't 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: you know you will be dating a few months. 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: I can't believe he did that. 23 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: Look at this guy and calling the friends book in 24 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: the private room at the fancy restaurant paying for it. 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: Right, this dude is doing the most creations. 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean I was really rested. But then 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: when my friends told me that. 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: He was wearing women's underwear, Oh, no way, I'm just 29 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 2: trying to I'm trying to guess what he might have 30 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: been doing. I'm trying to guess what what could have 31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: possibly gone wrong here? Like this all sounds good. Uh, 32 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: it turns out he has the four wives, he's. 33 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: In a cult. No, okay, okay, none of that. All right, well, 34 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: what is it? 35 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: I mean, it's not that bad yet. 36 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: He so he sent a Venmo request to each. 37 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: My friends, oh, asking to pay for their portion of dinner. 38 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: After yeah, oh. 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: So everybody, including you, thought he got the tab like 40 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: he was paying for this party for you. And then 41 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: kind of on the sly, he then hits everybody up 42 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: to pay their share, and everybody thought they kind of 43 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: got it. 44 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: For free, right, Like everyone thought that it was really 45 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: like super sweet of him. And now all my friends 46 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: think he's cheap and they're saying, you know, it's a 47 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 3: red flag to invite I went out to dinner, then 48 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 3: pay for it and then ask for the money back, 49 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: like kind of behind my back. 50 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: Now, people, did people going into this do you think 51 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: expect to be paying for it? Like, if I'm going 52 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: it really depends, I guess on the setting, but depending 53 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: if I went to a fancy dinner for someone's birthday, 54 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 2: I would be going into it with the mindset that 55 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: I'm paying for at least my portion of this. Correct, 56 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: there's certain settings where it's like, I guess it's being provided, 57 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: but like, I don't know, you can read the room 58 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 2: on that, but I guess I would have gone in 59 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: to it expecting to pay. 60 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: And so. 61 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: I don't know that you can necessarily say he's cheap 62 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: because you thought for a minute that you weren't going 63 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: to have to pay for it, and now you do. 64 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah, 65 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: he's cheap. 66 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 4: He is. 67 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I feel like if you 68 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: invite everybody and then you pay, you're making this big 69 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: gesture at the moment and then you've got to take 70 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: it away. 71 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: But what about all the effort he put into planning? 72 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 5: This man booked the restaurant, he invited everybody, he bought 73 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 5: the decorations. In this economy, like he paid for your meal. 74 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 5: I'm sure, right, do you have a Venmo request too? 75 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 5: And by the way, what was he supposed to do? 76 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: Like, was he supposed to sort of break up the 77 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: night and be like, all right, everybody, you know, I 78 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: need all everyone's credit cards, or hey, I'm gonna everyone's 79 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: venilling me. Like, I feel like that's something that you 80 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: would have to handle after the fact. 81 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: You can't do it right there, No, but he organized it. 82 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 4: But if you took out your girlfriend or wife or 83 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 4: hoever for dinner and you invited all of us to go, 84 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 4: you know you'd pick up the tab. 85 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: The right thing to do. You organize the dinner. You're 86 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: her man. 87 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 4: You're not just like her bestie or whatever or next 88 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 4: door neighbor. You're her man. 89 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: Well, I would obviously pay for my girlfriend or wife. 90 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: But I can't, honestly, honestly, I can't remember the less 91 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: time I went to a birthday dinner and the thrower 92 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: of the organizer of the event just covered the tab. 93 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: I really can't. I feel like everyone at this point 94 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: just expects to pay their share. 95 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: I honestly. 96 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: In fact, we've done a topic on this before where 97 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 2: I went to now here's where I would argue I 98 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: went to a and I love these people. And every 99 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 2: time I bring this up, they text me like, hey, moron, 100 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: we've already been through this because they listen. We went 101 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: to a bowling birthday party. It was an activity birthday 102 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: party thrown by the guy's wife. We show up and 103 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: then at the end we all had to pay for 104 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: the activity, the drinks and the food. Everybody had to pay. 105 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: So now my thing would have been this. My thing 106 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: would have been you invited us all to like the 107 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 2: bowling part. 108 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: I didn't want to bowl. 109 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: That should be that should have been covered. The activity 110 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: should be covered, and then maybe like a few trays 111 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: of appetizers and maybe like a round or two of 112 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: drinks and then say, hey, you know, we got the 113 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: first couple and the bowling and the food, but if 114 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: you want anything else then you know that's on you. 115 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: But no, at the end of the night, we all 116 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: it was like, all right, well, a hundred bucks a 117 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: piece or whatever, And I'm like, huh, I. 118 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 6: Mean I think when you grab the tab, like you know, 119 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 6: I'll pay it for my friends, and but you make 120 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 6: it clear like hey, I can you know I'll pay this, 121 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 6: I'll put it all on my card. You guys just 122 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 6: throw me whenever you can on Venmo like you, I 123 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 6: think you have to articulate that you're expecting to be 124 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 6: paid back ahead of time, yes, like while you're doing 125 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 6: a check, like usually we don't want to do separate 126 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 6: cards anymore. 127 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: Or do you invite everybody and say, hey, look, I'm 128 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: planning this thing and I'll cover the first part, but like, hey, 129 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: it's probably gonna want to be about a hundred bucks 130 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: a person for this, and that's okay with everybody. 131 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: Like to be nice. Do you say that ahead of time? Yes, 132 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: you do, because if you don't, then you need to 133 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: pay it, Okay. 134 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: So then if I walk out having not paid at 135 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: a part that i'm I am fair to assume that 136 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: I was that was gifted to me and I should 137 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 2: not have And if I get a Venmo request after 138 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: the fact, I should not have to pay it. 139 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 7: I request you after you have to pay it. But 140 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 7: it's offense. I think like you didn't lay it out clearly. 141 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 7: I mean it was thoughtful, the gesture was there. 142 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 143 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: Is it fair to say that he is cheap? 144 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 5: Yes? Or maybe he's just a little broke, you know, 145 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 5: like broke don't plan. 146 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 8: For dinner. Yeah, it didn't need to be like my friend. 147 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 5: But don't leave him, girl, Okay, I think I think 148 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 5: you should say because this is something you can work 149 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 5: out in the future. Like, babe, that was great every 150 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 5: you know, I appreciate what you did. Next time, though, 151 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 5: just let my friends know ahead of time that they're 152 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 5: going to have to pay for their meals and just 153 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 5: leave it at that. Don't leave this is a good man, girl. 154 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 5: People are not planning parties, and he made a. 155 00:06:55,160 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: Reservation and believe he got everybody together. Agree. 156 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: Look, in a perfect world, if I get invited to 157 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 2: a private room and a thing and no one says 158 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 2: a word to me ahead of time about what the 159 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: rules are, what the expectations are. No, you're right, I 160 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: expect that that I'm just being invited. My time is 161 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know that's you want me there, 162 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: so you're buying my dinner. I do assume that if nothing. 163 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know, he could have 164 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: done how many times we hear on this show about 165 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: guys who do nothing. 166 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: He didn't. 167 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: You know, this guy got people together, he got a date, 168 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: he had a venue. 169 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, he went the party city. I remember me. 170 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: Yes, he should pay for everybody, or or he should 171 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: have set the expectation ahead of time, but he. 172 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: Didn't, so we're dumbing this guy. No, I don't know about. 173 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 7: All that, but get dressed, like moving forward, like you 174 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 7: need to live within your means, like don't do. 175 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: These for that. 176 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 6: And I never think it's on someone's partner to pay 177 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 6: for the friends. I want to make that clear. I 178 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 6: don't think you have to do that. I just think 179 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 6: the way in which he did it kind of sent 180 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 6: that message. 181 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: Yes, I would show up there without my pocketbook. I 182 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 4: would be ex like, okay, like, if you're inviting me 183 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: to this, I'm guessing you're paying. Because he didn't lay 184 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 4: it out. You didn't say, hey it's gonna be one 185 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 4: hundred bucks a person. Hey it's going to be this. 186 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, bring your check? Yeah, yeah, 187 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 4: you know, I mean I hear that. Let me take 188 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 4: some phone calls on this, Natalian. I see what people 189 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 4: have to say. Have your radio one or iHeart or whatever, 190 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 4: and thanks for calling. Good luck with this, Thank you 191 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 4: so much. 192 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Eight five. 193 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, he should have paid 194 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: for it. But this is not the worst thing I've 195 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 2: ever heard. No, it's it's a little cringey, you know. 196 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: But as far as like, oh this guy's cheap or whatever, 197 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: I mean, we need to look a little more globally 198 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: than that we got to. 199 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: I mean, is is he cheap? 200 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: Like? 201 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: Is he cheap about everything? Is everything? You know? 202 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: We get the Is he the guy that when you 203 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: go out to dinner like just socially, that he gets 204 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: the itemized bill and goes I did, well, I didn't 205 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: eat any of that, so whatever, I'm not. 206 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: Going to do that, dude. 207 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: I get screwed every time I go to dinner by 208 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: myself because inevitably I pay for two people every time, 209 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 2: and it's usually just me. So I don't want to 210 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: hear it. I don't need any of the I didn't 211 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: need any of the tartar, you know what. I didn't either. 212 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: Also didn't drink five drinks? Right, you just it just 213 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: is right? Like how much? So if this dude is 214 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: doing that on everything, then you may that may be annoying. 215 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 2: You may actually be with a cheap person, but this 216 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: may be just a matter of poor communication. 217 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Ryan, Hey, Hey, Ryan, I know what 218 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: he's doing. 219 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 9: He's probably recently got a new car a card, and 220 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 9: he's got to spend you know, like a thousand, three 221 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 9: thousand dollars in the first few months in order to 222 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 9: get the cash back, and so in order to not 223 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 9: do that, he just buys something really expensive and gets 224 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 9: everybody to pay him back and then he gets the 225 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 9: cash back bonus. 226 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: I think you nailed it, you know what, maybe because 227 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: I have another buddy who did that. 228 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: We all went on a trip and he insisted on 229 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: booking all the rooms because he wanted it to go 230 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 2: on his He wanted all the points, and we all 231 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: had to pay him back, and of course we knew 232 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 2: we were paying for our own rooms or whatever, but 233 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 2: like he was like. 234 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: No, no, I'll take care of it. I do love getting points. 235 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 2: No, And then and then like a month later, the 236 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: guy's in Central Pay or whatever. I'm like, I paid 237 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: for that, give me a damn points. But so maybe 238 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: that's what it is, Ryan, Maybe that's what it is. 239 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 9: You might use the cash back bonus on her though, 240 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 9: So oh. 241 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: Okay, well hopefully not his girlfriend or another girlfriend or 242 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: his wife or somebody else. 243 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: That'd be bad. Ryan. Thank you, have a good day. 244 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think you got to go into everything 245 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: you're doing socially assuming you are paying for I just 246 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: I think you do, and then if you don't, well 247 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: then lucky you. Right, But I think you got to 248 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: assume I'm going to a fancy dinner this dude. I mean, 249 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: unless this guy is like you know that he is, 250 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, the heir to the tic tac you 251 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: know before Chender is you know, grandfather invented post it 252 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: notes or something like, you know, then I think you 253 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 2: just got to assume that there's just not thousands of 254 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 2: dollars laying around for this. 255 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's nothing more attractive than a man that pays 256 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 7: for the whole group. Like when yeah, Allen and Kaylen 257 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 7: came out for my birthday with Hibachi and Mike threw 258 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 7: down and I was like, okay. 259 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 6: Yes, and I was not expecting that gave it up. 260 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: Yea, it was a big night for him. I was like, 261 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: even Kaylen got involved, and that's hen. 262 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 6: Want, that's out of the ordinary. 263 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because there's nothing like coming home from Habachi 264 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: and being like, let's get it. Hey, Chloe, good morning, 265 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: good morning, Hi Chloe. So just to recap here, this 266 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: woman has been dating guy for a few months, and 267 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: he threw a fancy birthday party for her, invited her friends, 268 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: the whole thing, and then after the fact hit everybody 269 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: up and said, hey, you owe me this much for 270 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: your share of the party. And I think everybody thought 271 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: they were getting it for free, and now they're talking 272 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: about it behind his back. 273 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: What do you think, stare go? 274 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 8: Okay, so I think she should stay. And I've got 275 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 8: a couple of points why. So First of all, my 276 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 8: now husband, like when we were for like two or 277 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 8: three months, would have never like he's the poor thing slow, 278 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 8: he would have never done that for me. So I 279 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 8: think the fact that this guy even. 280 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 10: Took the time to plan all this stuff is like 281 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 10: there's something there. And then second, like I absolutely one 282 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 10: agree he needed to have communicated that to the friends beforehand, 283 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 10: But I think it's more of a red flag that 284 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 10: like the friends, like if you're a girl's girl, I 285 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 10: feel like you wouldn't go tell them like, oh, hey, 286 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 10: by the way, after he did like this super nice 287 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 10: thing for you, he then he did like a super 288 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 10: big thing. 289 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: And two. 290 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 11: I just think I don't know, you know. 291 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: They are coming for him, like for the friend group 292 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 2: to be like Oh, by the way, that wasn't even free. 293 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: You know. It's sort of like well. 294 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well but but this sounded like people were 295 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: talking about it, like to her directly. 296 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: That's what I mean, that's what I did. Yes, the 297 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: friends as leave all your friends. 298 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, you're still using vinmo. 299 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,119 Speaker 11: Like, don't use venmo. 300 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 8: Because then you have to like get the fee when 301 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 8: you transfer it to your bank account. 302 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: Oh well, it is a little public. It is amazing. 303 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: It is amazing what you can see. Actually, it's a 304 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 2: great stocking method that I never think of. 305 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: They don't charge me. I just do the wait a 306 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: couple of days. 307 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you wait, I can't wait. Yeah, you me 308 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: a birthday party, pay for it day. Hey, thanks for listening, 309 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: have a good day. 310 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 9: Yep, you too. 311 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: I'm always amazed. Like the other day I was on Venmo. 312 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: I sent my brother in law something for some money 313 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: for something, and I like, I'm looking at a constant 314 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: stream of like this has not only happened with xes 315 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: of mine, but then a guy that I know that 316 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: like he's a family friend. Everyone talks about like how 317 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: successful and suavey is and everything he's in a relationship, 318 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: I guess, and all that I could see was just 319 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: constantly it looked like everything was split, like it was 320 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: either him sending to his girlfriend or his girlfriend sending 321 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: to him, and it would be like lunch, dinner, oh, 322 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 2: this that the other thing. And I'm not talking about bills. 323 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: It was like it looked like every time they went 324 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: out it was split. This is girlfriend boyfriend. Yeah, And 325 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: I'm going I thought this doing was I thought this 326 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: dude was a baller, Like it doesn't look like he's 327 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: paying for anything on his own. 328 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: That's how he's a baller. And then I see. 329 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: Excess the same way, where it's like half of this 330 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: and half of that. I'm like, you didn't pay for 331 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: half another when you were with me. That's going on? 332 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: What is this person doing to you that I didn't 333 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: do a lot of things? Hey, Robin, Hey. 334 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: Good morning. Sayago, what do you think? 335 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 11: I think it's the conversation actually, because I think this 336 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 11: could be a fundamental difference between the two of them 337 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 11: and how they do things. But I have to say, 338 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 11: with that set, I think that you know, you set 339 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 11: expectations at the beginning of everything you do, no matter what, 340 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 11: and you know, I plan events for a living, and 341 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 11: I would never ever set up an event and say, oh, 342 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 11: by the way afterwards, tell someone I have to say, 343 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 11: like you've set that expectation from the front at the beginning, 344 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 11: right like Fred you look at galas and things like that, 345 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 11: the galss says it's one thousand dollars to get in, 346 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 11: you know what I mean? 347 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. 348 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And you know ahead of time when you 349 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: do what you're doing, you know how much it's. 350 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 11: Going to you know how much you know you're in, 351 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 11: and then you know whether or not you want to go. 352 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true. That is true. 353 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 11: And then I suppose it takes conversations if. 354 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: You throw out some big number, you know, hey we're 355 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: going to this stancey going to fancy spot. It's gonna 356 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: cost this much, and then people start saying, hey, I 357 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: can't make it. 358 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: You know. Then then maybe you. 359 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: Realize, well, I've I've outkicked my coverage here, like I need, 360 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: I need, we need to lessen the venue or I 361 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: don't know, but that that. 362 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: Can get weird room the right way. 363 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, thank you, Rob, and have 364 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: a good day. 365 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 11: You're welcome. YouTube. 366 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: I am this to me always a little different than 367 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: like like I just saw a whole rant on TikTok. 368 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: And you know how I feel about weddings. You know, 369 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: I hate I hate this philosophy that I'm supposed to 370 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: try and figure out how much my my presence that 371 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: your wedding cost son and then give a gift that's commensurate, 372 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: you know, So like I hate this logic that's like, well, 373 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: oh they had a band, and oh they had a 374 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: three course meal and an open bar, so that was 375 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: probably two hundred bucks a person, So I better give 376 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: a gift that's at least two hundred bucks. If I 377 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: give you a gift that's two hundred bucks or five 378 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: hundred bucks or whatever, it's based on what I want 379 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: to give you. It's not based on me compensating you 380 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: for overspending on your wedding. Like, do what you can 381 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: afford and everybody will be happy. 382 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: That's there. 383 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: And what don't go out and spend one hundred thousand 384 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: dollars or something when you only had twenty and then 385 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: expect that your guests are going to pick up the difference, 386 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: because they probably won't. And people that you expect to 387 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: pay will not give you what you think it's inevitable. 388 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: So just do the thing that you can afford, do 389 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 2: what you want to do, and then if you if 390 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: you wind up making it out like a band at 391 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: the end, that's right. But that's different because there's sort 392 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 2: of like etiquette to weddings and those and those sorts 393 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: of things. 394 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: This is a little loose. 395 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: Like I don't I don't necessarily know there's one steadfast 396 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: rule here to follow. I hate it, but yeah, I 397 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: guess maybe ahead of time it would have been good 398 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: to mention that the guests are paying for this party, 399 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: not me. 400 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: Hey, Melissa, yes, I got, I got, you got? 401 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 2: And what if what if what he's charging people adds 402 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: up to more? What if somehow he includes himself and 403 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: her in that so that every money, So that what 404 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: if he makes money on Now that's tacky. 405 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: One of it's like, wait, man, how much is CON's on? Times? 406 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: How many that dinner was not two thousand dollars or whatever? 407 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: And then it turns out the dude's like a party planner. 408 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 2: Now he's making money, he's throwing events. Melissa, what do you. 409 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 1: Think you check? 410 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 12: The words right out of my mouth. This is so tacky, 411 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 12: and I'm sorry, but if you're dating somebody there's some 412 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 12: logic behind during a party and charging people for that party. 413 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 8: What is this a frat party? 414 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 10: To people at the door for a srat. 415 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 12: Party, not a freaking birthday party for the woman that 416 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 12: you love or you're in a relationship with. This is 417 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 12: just absolutely affer to me. I would so go run 418 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 12: on me, run so fast. 419 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a great look, But I also I 420 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: think communication could have been better. 421 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: But I'm not certain that he's sinister yet. I'm not sure. 422 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: I gotta know more. 423 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: I gotta know if he's like this in every aspect 424 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: of his life, because that is a whole different thing. 425 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 12: Listen, if my friend invited me to a birthday party 426 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 12: and then told me I was on the hook later 427 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 12: for a hundred bucks, I would absolutely tell his girlfriend 428 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 12: and be like, what are you doing? No? 429 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 11: Absolutely not? 430 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, thank you me. Listen, have a good day, 431 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: lod you die. Yeah. 432 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 2: How many of you would rat on the guy or 433 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: the girl? Like how many? Or would you keep it 434 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 2: to you yourself? 435 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 4: I keep it to myself just because I don't want 436 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 4: to embarrass her or make her feel in a kind 437 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 4: of way, you know what I mean. 438 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: I would just suck it up. 439 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: And I would do the honorable I would do the 440 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: honorable thing. And that's just come here and talk about it.