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Speaker 1: This episode was recorded prior to the sag After Strike.

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Speaker 2: Flakey Biscuit is a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership

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Speaker 2: with iHeartRadio. All Right, we're here. Welcome to Flakey Biscuit.

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Speaker 2: You already know it's another day, another day in the kitchen,

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Speaker 2: making and cooking up delicious morsels of nostalgia. That's what

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Speaker 2: we call in it right now, these are meals and

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Speaker 2: recipes that have comforted and guided our guests to success.

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Speaker 2: That means each episode, I'm creating a recipe from scratch.

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Speaker 2: I'm creating a iteration of a recipe, a version of

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Speaker 2: a recipe, a version of a thought and a feeling

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Speaker 2: from scratch, and I'm cooking it for my guests. So

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Speaker 2: these meals, you know what I'm saying, Like it could

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Speaker 2: be something from a vending machine. It could be I

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Speaker 2: don't know what it is, man. It could be something

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Speaker 2: from a box. It could be something from your grandmom's

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Speaker 2: pop you know what I'm saying from the oven. But

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Speaker 2: in any case, the end of the day, it's going

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Speaker 2: to comfort our guests to success. I'm Brian Ford. I

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Speaker 2: write cookbooks, done some TV shows. But y'all know me

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Speaker 2: as you know what I'm saying. It's the flaky guy. Now,

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Speaker 2: I guess I'm just flaky business.

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Speaker 1: Here, flaky business that's into flaky business.

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Speaker 2: Flaky business. Baby. I got somebody very special in the

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Speaker 2: kitchen today, right here in the flesh, the CV, the

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Speaker 2: resume here is just immaculate, very inspiring actor, Grammy Award

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Speaker 2: nominated singer, songwriter, producer. I mean you might know him

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Speaker 2: from his breakout roles in the Wire, of course, I

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Speaker 2: know to one to know us ladies peeping on the

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Uh, films such as George Lucas's Redtails

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Speaker 2: and The Secret Life of Bees, alongside the heavy hitter

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Speaker 2: Queen Latifa. Most recently, we got the upcoming season of

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Speaker 2: the Apple TV Plus series Swagger Yeah, and his role

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Speaker 2: as Pastor Goodman in the Peacock original film Praise This.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get more into that and talk about that

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Speaker 2: in a bit. But please welcome the extremely talented renaissance

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Speaker 2: man entrepreneur Zman Tristan mac Wilde's welcome man.

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Speaker 1: That that was an entran. I appreciate that. Thank you man,

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Speaker 1: that that hyped me up.

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Speaker 3: I'm good for the day.

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Speaker 2: The day you can cancel your training session.

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Speaker 1: I know, Yeah, I don't know about that. My train

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Speaker 1: is gonna kill me.

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Speaker 2: I gotta give me a trainer, man, it's a trainer

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Speaker 2: that's out here, travel with.

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Speaker 1: I have a trainer out here. I'm born and raised

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Speaker 1: in New York, so my trainer's out here. But because

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Speaker 1: I'm usually traveling so much or a lot of times

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Speaker 1: i'm out of town, he'll just send me my workouts.

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Speaker 1: I'll get it done, and you know, make sure that

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Speaker 1: he sees what I can do.

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Speaker 2: You might have to put me in touch. I've been

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Speaker 2: eating too much bread, you know what I mean. I

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Speaker 2: gotta get us slim, slim down a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Shout out heart man. He's the god man.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. But speaking of bread, man,

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Speaker 2: I heard you. So you're a baker too. How you

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Speaker 2: make saying which is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I bake, man, I bake more than I cook.

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Speaker 1: It's funny. I grew up in a household where everybody

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Speaker 1: did something well, cooking wise. For me, I just picked

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Speaker 1: I love my snacks and all of that stuff. So

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Speaker 1: I learned how to make cookies, and then cookies, it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, give me the details, man. You know my listeners

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Speaker 2: love baking. Talk to me about like you make you

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Speaker 1: I've started to make break I tried. I've started with

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Speaker 1: to make banana breads and all of this other stuff.

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Speaker 1: But my favorite thing is carrot cake. It's like, that's

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Speaker 2: Oh we're raisins are without raisins?

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Speaker 1: But it still has a certain like I substitute the

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Speaker 1: I substitute raisins for pineapples. What for the moisture for

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Speaker 2: Sweet Yeah, my goodness. Yeah, you're now I'm gonna tell you.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm in the wrong at this point. Man,

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Speaker 2: bit dabbles in the bacon world. Sandwiches. Apparently you like

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Speaker 1: No, So there's this spot in the city, well in

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Speaker 1: in the Deli. You go there and they literally chop

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Speaker 2: Mean, it's stuff. Put I mean hold on any kind

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Speaker 1: Any type of sandwich, whether it's like a turkey sandwich,

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, look, we could talk sandwiches all day,

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Speaker 2: but I didn't make you a sandwich today. I would

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Speaker 2: like you to tell my listeners what was the nostalgic

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Speaker 2: meal that you had me try and recreate it. Ooh.

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Speaker 1: So growing up in Staple cent And and Park Hill,

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Speaker 1: you know, my mom was constantly working, like all the time.

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Speaker 1: It just reminds me of a hustle, especially with my mom,

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Speaker 2: Damn man, has the dish evolved? I mean, so she

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Speaker 1: It is very standard. It is like it's like going

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Speaker 1: what you're coming for. It's very very specific. There's other

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Speaker 1: dishes that she does that always evolves, Like that's my mom.

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Speaker 1: She's always meticulous. I want to try this, maybe we

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Speaker 2: I can definitely relate. I mean my mom, she's evolved

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Speaker 2: over time. But there's like there's a couple things that

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Speaker 1: You're getting, exactly what you're getting.

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Speaker 2: I have to like kind of beg my mom to

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Speaker 2: But like sometimes i'd be like the little kid comes

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Speaker 2: out and me I'm like you know what I'm saying

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Speaker 2: exactly like, can you make it how I used to

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Speaker 2: make you? Yeah, and when she musters up the strength

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Speaker 1: In the middle and just like crunching on the outside.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that's right. You you don't mean.

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Speaker 1: About yeah, wait, where are you from?

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Speaker 2: Rich? I was born in the Bronx, but I was

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Speaker 2: raised in New Orleans. My parents are from Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course absolutely.

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Speaker 2: But like people often mistake me as Dominican.

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Speaker 1: If you're from New York and your brown skin, you're Dominican.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes I just be playing with people. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: All right, look, the moment has come. I want to

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Speaker 2: to First of all, when you walked in, what did

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Speaker 1: Oh man, it smelled heavenly. And okay, it smelled heavenly.

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Speaker 2: And then this isn't close.

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Speaker 1: Definitely close, definitely close.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I appreciate that. I felt like this

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Speaker 2: like you said that, like clockwork, exactly how I was

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Speaker 2: supposed to be. So I got the vegetarian red beans,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I used some red beans. I did get

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Speaker 2: really good quality ground meat because I was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Try chuck right now.

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Speaker 2: So I got some grass fair ground meat, you know,

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Speaker 2: eighty twenty. So it's got some fab got the garlic

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Speaker 2: powder in there, got the onion powder in. Actually used butter,

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Speaker 2: saut some minced yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, added the seasoning,

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Speaker 2: crushed whole he'll plumb tomatoes, kind of like the tomato sauce. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Added some salt to it. Let that bubble up. And

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Speaker 2: to be honest, man, some white rice BOZMODI simple. I'm

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Speaker 2: about to play this for you, and I want to know.

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Speaker 2: I want to know what you're tasting. I want to

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Speaker 4: Sir, Sit, sir, I got yea yeah, not too much,

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Speaker 4: not too much, not too muchsh.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I need this real moment here. Just

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Speaker 2: go ahead and talk about whats Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. The smell of it.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because you'd always know that she was making

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Speaker 1: this because there was like a slightly sweet smell to

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Speaker 1: it whenever she came home and we just finished homework

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Speaker 1: or we was messing around, and you smell what she's

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Speaker 2: Can smell it in stages, Yeah, you can't. As the

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Speaker 2: scent intensifies, you might know it's probably close to being ready. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: my mom had something like that. It was a pastellito stepina,

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Speaker 2: so like pineapple pastello. Yeah, and like there was a

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Speaker 2: This is good man. I'm honored to be able to.

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Speaker 2: because it really showcases you've learned how to decipher a

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Speaker 3: Everything's good.

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Speaker 1: That meal literally is everything's good right now and growing

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Speaker 2: Damn. I'm glad that you have that memory. Thank you, man,

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Speaker 2: very humble man. You know you've got this huge, exploding

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Speaker 1: universal languages. You know, these are things that it doesn't

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Speaker 2: Look man, you so you know you're so multi talented,

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Speaker 2: I can act. I can.

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Speaker 1: The funniest thing is I don't think I fully realized

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Speaker 1: what about this do I love? And why does it

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Speaker 1: I was, I was like, oh, the POTENTI is limitless, Like,

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Speaker 2: It's baking, you know. Getting into food media was not.

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Speaker 1: Then it's only going to get It's only going to grow,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I can. I can totally relate to

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00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 2: what you're saying, Like it's like endless and endless supply

434
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 2: of things can be done at this point, Like thanks

435
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 2: to our parents, thanks to how hard they work, we

436
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 2: got the world at our fingertips. Now some people just

437
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 2: can't understand, Like, bro, you understand, Like I've seen the

438
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 2: bank at my house trying to yo take your house,

439
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,959
Speaker 2: like I've seen cars pulled out the driveway, like I've

440
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 2: seen empty fridges like it's wild.

441
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 1: I've explained to so many people that the reason why

442
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,479
Speaker 1: I feel like I can't fail is because I know

443
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 1: what the bottom looks like. I know what that feels like.

444
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,160
Speaker 1: I know what it feels like to not have anything.

445
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 1: I know what it feels like to have jokes with

446
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: cousins about who has more roaches, like I know, like

447
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,880
Speaker 1: I know all of those feelings, and those feelings, those

448
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 1: memories don't fade, those stay indelibly in my mind. So

449
00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 1: whenever we're in any type of spaces, whether we're up,

450
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: whether we're down, whether we're getting a lot of jobs,

451
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: whether we're not. Whatever life may throw at you, you

452
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 1: always have in the back of your head like this

453
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 1: could be way worse. I'm truly blessed where we are

454
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: and extremely thankful that I'm in the place that I am.

455
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: To your point, that's why failure there's no real fear

456
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 2: of it, because I'm like, oh, the worst that happens

457
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 2: is that I just need I'm broke again and I

458
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: gotta find food, okay, or like the worst happens like

459
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 2: we've done that already. Yeah, I've done that for a

460
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: long time. Is that the worst? You know? But yeah, man,

461
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,360
Speaker 2: I'm very very thankful, very blessing. Even how I grew

462
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 2: up is I got family in Honduras. You know what

463
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I got cousins in Honduras. You know, that's

464
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 2: when I really really realize how good I got it.

465
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 2: When I go and visit. I mean, they live a

466
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 2: great life and it's not like it's not like it's no.

467
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 1: But you go and you realize even going to check

468
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: out my cousins in dr Yeah, you're going to these

469
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: houses and they don't feel the same stuff that we

470
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: feel right like, we look at certain things, I start

471
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: to understand why they mean what they mean by like

472
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 1: first class problems. Yeah, oh well, first world problems, because

473
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: you go into these spaces and they're so happy with

474
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: just what they have, and it's not like they don't

475
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 1: live a great life, but you start to realize how

476
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: the country is, how it's the infrastructure of the country,

477
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: and it's very humbling. It's very humbling, and it's like, yo, again,

478
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: going right back, what's the worst that could happen?

479
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 3: And it broke again?

480
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we've been there, We've conquered that. Yeah,

481
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 2: you seem very proud of your Dominican heritage, which is obvious.

482
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: You know, that's that's great. And you know something I

483
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: read that you said, you know, you get offered roles

484
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 2: to be a black guy, but not that often you're

485
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: getting offered roles to be Latino or to be Hispanic,

486
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 2: and being Afro Latino, being a black Hispanic is just

487
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: people still just don't comprehend what they are. They don't

488
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 2: understand what we are. So I kind of wanted to

489
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 2: just flow into this and just really get some real

490
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: thoughts about you know, do you see any improvements, like

491
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 2: talk to me about like.

492
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: Personally, I mean not yet. I haven't been cast for

493
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: a Latino role yet. I understand it. I completely understand it, right,

494
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 1: I think right off the bat, when you look at me,

495
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 1: the first thing that you think of is, oh, he's

496
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: just a light skinned black guy, right, and that you know,

497
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: it's fine, it's cool. You know. I fit into whatever

498
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: character that I have to. That's what acting is. But honestly,

499
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I'm looking for improvement when

500
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: it comes to that. Like I said, I'm happy as

501
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: a young black man because at the end of the day,

502
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: we are black people. So I'm happy to play a

503
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: young black man. I'm happy to see that a for

504
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: Latino is being portrayed in such a way now in

505
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: media that it is more of a beautiful thing. Like

506
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: we're looking at the success of like the Miles moralesis

507
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: and all of that going on in the world. It's amazing.

508
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: So I think the biggest thing for me is just

509
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: making sure that not only do I have sense of pride,

510
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: but I establish a sense of pride in my daughters

511
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: as well. The business is going to be the business

512
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: is going to be the business. You know, they're going

513
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: to attract or attach to anything that's marketable or whatever

514
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: is popping at the moment. But for me, lifestyle wise,

515
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just happy to be black. I'm happy

516
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: to be Dominican. I'm happy to yeah, and I'm just

517
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: going to teach my daughters the same thing.

518
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that's amazing. I mean, and it's good that

519
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: you're thinking about teaching that pride as well. What you

520
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 2: just said is interesting. The business is going to be

521
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 2: the business. It's going to be the business. I see.

522
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 2: You know, I don't really get cast into roles the

523
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: same way you might. But there's like you know, in

524
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 2: food media, I'll be chilling in like January. It's like

525
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: a month by month thing. Oh yeah, yeah. In January,

526
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: I'm pretty much just hispanic or something, you know. But

527
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: in February, I'm black. Oh yeah, I'm as black as

528
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 2: they've ever been.

529
00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: That.

530
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll get the email and dms of like,

531
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: we really want you to feature for this piece. February

532
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: goes around, and you know, look, I am I am black.

533
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: My dad was you see a picture of my dad.

534
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 2: I mean my dad was black. My dad man, Like

535
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: straight up, you know what I'm saying. So, you know,

536
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: March comes around, I go back to being kind of Hispanish,

537
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 2: you know. September it's like, I'm I'm like, it's like

538
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 2: a AI, like they coming at me, throwing some breros

539
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 2: at me and ship like straight up. That's why food

540
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 2: media works, though, It's.

541
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: How all media works. You know. It's like if you're Spanish,

542
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: as soon as they realize okay, he looks Spanish, he

543
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: is Spanish, We're throwing everything.

544
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:36,959
Speaker 3: Spanish at him.

545
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: Everything.

546
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: If you're black, if he looks black, oh my god,

547
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: like History Month, it goes crazy. But you know, it's

548
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: like I said, the business is the business is the business.

549
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: And I am a black man and I am a

550
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: Dominican man. I am both things. I don't negate one

551
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: for the other.

552
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't need it can be mutually. It can

553
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: exist at the same time. And that's I don't have

554
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: an issue doing things for Black History Month obviously, Like

555
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: you know this out I got called what we get

556
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: called down there.

557
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: You know exactly.

558
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: No, but I'm Hispanic. Oh so you're a Mexican Like

559
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 2: I'll be trying to but no, no, no good side here.

560
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: But no, it's it's like you're saying though, it's like

561
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: we're both and like I am also thankful, like I'm

562
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: not going to not want my book to sell of course, Yeah,

563
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 2: tell my book. I'm black, Like, let's do it. Like

564
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: you know, I play with that, but yeah, it's it's

565
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 2: I've read, you know, random articles from different actors that

566
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: you know might have similar issues. I just wanted to

567
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: get your take on, like how it feels too, you

568
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,239
Speaker 2: know there maybe they're not running at you when they

569
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: need like a Hispanic person for all right.

570
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: Like the funniest thing is that I've been seeing this

571
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: a lot on social media as of late. You know,

572
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: they're talking about doing a live action Mas Morales and

573
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: this is the first time when I guess because he

574
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: is Afro Latino and very much like African American and

575
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: Latino that people are like, oh no, Tristan macwasne needs

576
00:27:59,359 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: to play this role.

577
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 3: And I'm like, wow, if.

578
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: I was younger, it would be great, you know, unless

579
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: they're making Miles a little older.

580
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 2: But that's yeah, you're right. I mean that has been

581
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: pretty groundbreaking. You know, when you think of Spider Man,

582
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: you think the most superheroes is why guys? So I

583
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: think this personification of Spider Man. And you know it

584
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: had to be a cartoon, right, They couldn't just go

585
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: full on and make a real movie. Yeah. Yeah, I

586
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 2: had to start with a cartoon, test it out, make

587
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: sure everybody's.

588
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: Cool with it, and then start to branch exactly.

589
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 2: You know. But it's to say, you know, we can

590
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: go on and on, like with James Bond in Hell,

591
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: but all that kind of thing. It's like, I can't

592
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: be black and like.

593
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: Got out the big homie interescy.

594
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 3: I don't know anybody else who could do it. I'm

595
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 3: telling you, You've.

596
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: Got a lot of exciting things happening right now. I mean,

597
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: like you're playing Alonzo Powers right and I think a

598
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: lot of people are curious. I'm sure my listeners are curious.

599
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: You know, what can you say about the growth of

600
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: your character in this and swagger?

601
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: So for the people who watched season one, you know,

602
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: you get a chance to see kind of Alonzo starting

603
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: to make his way up the the corporate ladder of Gladiator,

604
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: which is I guess like our version of like a

605
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: grassroots sneaker company or sportswear company, like a like a

606
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: young Nike or a young under armour or something along

607
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: those lines. But now in season two or a few

608
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: years ahead, and we get a chance to see him

609
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: kind of not in an apex, but like at a

610
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: really really strong point where he's really pulling a lot

611
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: of the strings behind the scenes.

612
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: You know.

613
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: He's kind of like the man you want on your

614
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: team if you want something done right. He's like the

615
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: anti hero that you got to like, Oh listen, we

616
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: need this done. Can you can you handle this? He

617
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: always finds a way. It's gonna be an interesting season.

618
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: All right. It seems like there's definitely more to come.

619
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: I see that again. I can see your eyes. I'm like, damn,

620
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: we gotta stay tuned for that. But you're obviously very versatile.

621
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you also played a pastor, which I think

622
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: was if you google your name, like these articles come

623
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: up about like this work that you did, and what

624
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: was it like to do that, you know what I mean? Like,

625
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: and was it something that felt natural to you?

626
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: It was different. I didn't grow up in a church.

627
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: My wife is more churchy than I am. But I

628
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: think that that was the best part about playing Pastor Goodman.

629
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: He wasn't your quintessential pastor. He wasn't supposed to be.

630
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: You know, he's a guy from the street who got

631
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: saved and decided to give his life to the Lord.

632
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: And you can see that. You can see the way

633
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: that he moves, the way that he talks, his mannerisms,

634
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: they all come from where he's from and what he

635
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: used to do. But now, you know, as a pastor,

636
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: he's he understands that he has to be, I guess,

637
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: a better man for everyone else. I got a chance

638
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: to kind of like watch a lot of really really

639
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,239
Speaker 1: dope pastors pastor over there their herd, like you know,

640
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: just to kind of like make sure that everybody feels

641
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: them in the way that they speak, in the way

642
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: that they kind of they just touched everybody. It was

643
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: a dope character to start to build out. Definitely a

644
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: lot of fun.

645
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I got I got it. Man, I can't

646
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: act to save my life, but I gotta say, I

647
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: can just feel the pride that you have in your work.

648
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Speaker 2: But I can also feel you can clearly just adapt

649
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: to pretty much anything. I feel like you're the kind

650
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: of person that someone could just say, man, you gotta

651
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: be a you know, a cow and you know, you

652
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: just feel like that like, let's let's my man said, moo,

653
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: don't go anywhere, be right back after this. You don't

654
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: like what comes next, so let's get right back into

655
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: what's next besides miles Miles morales. You know what I'm

656
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: saying to the higher ups. But no, but what's next?

657
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: I mean what's on the horizon. I mean from a

658
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: music perspective, like how does the creativity go? And like,

659
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: how are you feeling with?

660
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Speaker 1: I think it's good, man. I think that right now

661
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 1: we're in an age of quantity over quality when it

662
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: comes to content creation. And I hate even to call

663
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: it that, like it should be just art. What they're

664
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: calling it content is just something to just kind of

665
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: throw out and hopefully something comes back.

666
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: You gave me goosebumps again. Exactly how you phrase that

667
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: is exactly what's happening right now all across the board

668
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: in media, in media, period, music, food, whatever it is.

669
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: It's how much shit can you put on these apps?

670
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: No one even cares what it looks like anymore. I

671
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: mean the recipes. I'm seeing people, you know, chefs popping

672
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: out of nowhere and it's like peaking duck and it's like.

673
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Speaker 3: How do you what?

674
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: How did you do that, duck? What are you talking about?

675
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: That doesn't even look like peaking duck? But you got

676
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: a million views.

677
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: And that's how they quantify everything. So I decided to

678
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: kind of take some time just to live life, especially

679
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: when my order was born. I wanted to really go

680
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: through that so I have something to write about. I

681
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: have something to talk about. All of the music that

682
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: I've done thus far has been extremely personal, has been real,

683
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: all real stories, things that I've been through, things that

684
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: I connect to, and I didn't want to just regurgitate

685
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: things that you guys have already heard. I wanted to

686
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Speaker 1: live life so that I could come back with a

687
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:31,239
Speaker 1: fresher experience, with a different perspective exactly. So you know

688
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: right now, you know my team has been on me.

689
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: We're working on music again. But yeah, I just I

690
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: had to take some time to kind of like understand

691
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Speaker 1: what life was giving me so that I can give

692
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Speaker 1: it back to you guys.

693
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Speaker 2: Wow, that's genuinely amazing, because you're taking an approach to

694
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: your craft that, like I said, like it it seems

695
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: like it's a dying breed to put yourself and care

696
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: into what you're creating. You know, like right now. I

697
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: kind of feel like at that crossroads too, where I'm like,

698
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: do I want a slave away to an algorithm on

699
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: an app? Or do I want to step back and

700
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: focus on my bakery. Forget posting every day, forget followers,

701
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: forget that right, step back and make the bakery I've

702
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: always dreamed of. That's gonna give me real content, you

703
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 2: posts instead of just sitting here trying to create stuff

704
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: out of thin air. Right Like. But that's the pressure

705
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: that we get under sometimes and say, hey man, we

706
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 2: got to put something out. You gotta. And I'm like, listen,

707
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you want me to post about?

708
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: Where's your blog? I'm like, I just wrote a second cookbook.

709
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: What am I going to write on the internet? I

710
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: don't for free? I mean, what am I supposed to do?

711
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: So you gotta step back, got to get some of

712
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: that real perspective. But I want to let you know

713
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: I got bars too, Okay, all right, I gotta we

714
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Speaker 2: produce it. I got two tracks with my homie Crucial,

715
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: he's a musician from New Orleans, amazing musician, and we

716
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: did a song about pizza. It's called home Slice. You gotta.

717
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Speaker 2: I'm telling you if you if you remember today or

718
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: whenever you're on the airplane, whatever you're doing, Man, pull

719
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Speaker 2: it up.

720
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: Oh I'm definitely gonna pull this up.

721
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Speaker 2: It's wild, bro, it's wild.

722
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Speaker 1: I love it.

723
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Speaker 2: And we did another track called butter My Croissant. So

724
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna have to fill you in, you

725
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, just just in case when you

726
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 2: make your new album you want to lighten up a track.

727
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: And man, it's it's been. It's been a real pleasure.

728
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Speaker 2: We've got a couple more things before I'll let you go.

729
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Speaker 2: We always like to play a flaky game. Okay, okay,

730
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: we like to pull up. We like to play a

731
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 2: little flaky game. I do actually want to call out

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Speaker 2: to my listeners that Tristan's plate is clean. He is

733
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Speaker 2: part of the Clean Plate Club. So we're playing a

734
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Speaker 2: flaky game. Ok right, So you better just you know,

735
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: you better have your chili trivia on.

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Speaker 3: That with it?

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go, number one. It's a long

738
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 2: ass question. This type of chili is made with Middle

739
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 2: Eastern spices and it can be served with a mound

740
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: of spaghetti, chopped onion, yellow cheese, shredded and oyster crackers.

741
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Speaker 2: On the side with some hot dogs as well. Is

742
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Speaker 2: it it's multiple choice Cincinnati style, New Jersey style or

743
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Speaker 2: Maine style.

744
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: Oh, that sounds like main style.

745
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: It is not. What about that made it sound like it?

746
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: Was it the oyster the oyster crackers? It distracted your

747
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: mind from the crazinesss. Cincinnati style Cincinnati makes sense because

748
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: it's not the places like, Yeah, I was in Cincinnati

749
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: once and they serve you spaghetti like noodles of spaghetti,

750
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 2: and then they put the chili on it with hot dog.

751
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: Don't with hot and cheddar cheese, bay, don't don't lie.

752
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: Saying it might it might be crazy.

753
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: I will kind of tear it up. Yeah, so that's Cincinnati.

754
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: I got a couple more for you.

755
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

756
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

757
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: How many gallons of chili with meat was eating in

758
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: a six minute time frame in the Major League Eating contest?

759
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: Gallons?

760
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: All right? How many gallons chili with meat was eat

761
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: in six minutes? I was it three leaders? Which is

762
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: not gallons?

763
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: Okay, it's about one gallon?

764
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Speaker 2: Was it two point four to three gallons?

765
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Speaker 3: Jesus Christ?

766
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 2: Or was it forty quartz? H hint? It's the one

767
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: where I said, right, four to three eight gallons in

768
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Speaker 2: six minutes.

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Speaker 1: Jesus, that's a lot of chili. It's a lot of chili.

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Speaker 2: So like a gallon of milk, if that was filled

771
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 2: with chili, that'd be a gallon of chili. Na son, no, no, no,

772
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: no, no no. I'm actually in a pie eating contest tonight

773
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: and I'm a little bit worried about it. Yeah, it's

774
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 2: at ten pm. Yeah, these young people in Brooklyn. Ten

775
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: pm is my bed time. All right, I got one

776
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: more for.

777
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: You, okay.

778
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 2: True or false? Birds are immune to the heat of chili.

779
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: Birds are immune to the heat of chili.

780
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: False. I love how you were like, hell, no, that

781
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: can't be right. But apparently it's true.

782
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: Are you serious.

783
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 2: Apparently birds have something called capsicum and that only affects mammals,

784
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: So they could just eat spicy stuff and they don't

785
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: even get affected by it. Wow. If your chili was

786
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: really spicy, birds could play with it. They wouldn't even know.

787
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 2: Your reaction was false.

788
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 3: It's like gotta be false. They had to be false.

789
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: Oh man, that was fun. And of course, here at

790
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: the end of Flaky Biscuit, we like to talk about

791
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: an organization that is special to you. For you, it's

792
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: the Loopis Foundation of America. And I'd love for you

793
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: to tell me and the listeners why is this so

794
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 2: important to you? How can we help? Yeah, please give

795
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: us the rundown.

796
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Speaker 1: I mean, as we all know, you know, I think

797
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of different diseases out there and things

798
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,439
Speaker 1: that are things that are affecting our families and things

799
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: of that nature. But the Loopis Foundation is very very

800
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: close to me because one of my aunts, one of

801
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: my closest aunts, my aunt Tracy, she just passed away.

802
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: She just passed away in March from Lucian you man,

803
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: and as a kid who watched her battle with it

804
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: her entire life and not fully understand it, I didn't

805
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: understand it myself. I think it's something that we need

806
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: to work on to just to eradicate. I don't think anybody,

807
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's family needs to should deal with

808
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: that feeling, that pain, and you know, I think it's

809
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: something that can be eradicated. I think the biggest thing

810
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: that we all want to see is change in the world.

811
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Speaker 1: So Lupa's Foundation is close to me because I know

812
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: Tracy would love it.

813
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: That's very special. Thank you for sharing that. It's very

814
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: very very generous of you to kind of share that.

815
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 2: How can we is there volunteering?

816
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: I say, so, you know, you guys can volunteer. You

817
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: guys can donate. I think every year we do a

818
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: big walk and all of that stuff. And yeah, there's

819
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: several different ways to help out. Just go on line

820
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: check it out, you know whatever. You guys can do, time, money,

821
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: anything else.

822
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 2: All right, listeners, y'all heard them. You know what I'm saying, Like,

823
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: this is the time to step up. It's very nice

824
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: of you again to share with us and hopefully, you know,

825
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: get some some listeners out in the marches with you

826
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 2: in the walks and and everything like that. Tristan, this

827
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: has been an absolute pleasure. I feel like this is

828
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: not the last time we're want to talk. We're gonna

829
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: maybe some fun, We're gonna make some food together, cookie show.

830
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 3: We got to do it all.

831
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you coming on. Thank you for coming

832
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: to Flaky Biscuit.

833
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 3: Hey man, thank you for having me for sure.

834
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: All right, y'all, thank you so much for listening to

835
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: this episode. It was very very special, very special meal,

836
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: which was as he calls it the poor Man's Chili

837
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: and you can find my version of this recipe on

838
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: shinaland dot com. And of course I want to know

839
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: how it goes. You are you know? You know the deal, fam,

840
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: because I know y'all been listening to all the episodes.

841
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: I know you know what it is that I need

842
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: you to tag me at Artists and Brian and tag

843
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 2: my guests. Who is Tristan and he's at mac Wilde's

844
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: post photos videos. Let us know how you did. This

845
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: meal was very near and dear to Tristan's harden. I

846
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: could really really see it in his eyes while he

847
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: was eating it, you know what I mean, So let

848
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: us know how you did. You can learn more about

849
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 2: volunteer and donation opportunities at loupus dot org. All the

850
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 2: handles and links I've mentioned are in the show notes

851
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: for this episode. So if you like Flaky Biscuit, you

852
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: already know what to do besides eat a bunch of biscuits.

853
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,000
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854
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Speaker 2: already know what it is. Give us the reviews. You

855
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's your favorite podcast, right, I mean,

856
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Speaker 2: some Love, get onto YouTube channel, watch recipe videos, get

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Speaker 2: on Shondaland dot com and make them recipes, y'all. Flakey

859
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 2: Biscuit is executive produced by Sandy Bailey, alex Alja, Lauren Homan,

860
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: Tyler Klang, and Gabrielle Collins. Our creative producer is Bridget

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00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: Kenna and our editor and producer is Nicholas Harder, with

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